Re: [Cooker] Want to do a magazine CD with 9.2 plus LG-proof kernel

2003-11-10 Thread Warly
Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:48, Pascal Terjan wrote:
 Francisco Alcaraz wrote:

[...]


 Mandrake should be more carefull with this, shouldn't it?

 I'm pretty sure the magazine didn't even bother to tell Mandrakesoft
 they'll distibute the 9.2...

 OK... I'm planning to include a slightly-less-than-single-ISO version of 
 9.2 plus the updates and an LG-proof kernel on the cover of an 
 Australian magazine. It will be aimed at a single purpose: installing a 
 secure, database-backed Mandrake Linux webserver/mailserver/gateway 
 machine for developers to use either for real or as a staging area or 
 an intranet server/testbed.

 What are the rules Mandrake would like me to follow?

 For example, if I include a PLF package or the NVidia/ATI drivers, what 
 must I change? The distro's name? Licence terms?

 What can I do with the advertising screens? Are Mandrake happy for me to 
 add extra images to the sequence, one to loudly remind the audience 
 that this is not an official Mandrake distribution - it's been built 
 for the magazine - one to advertise Linux contacts in Australia, and so 
 on?

 What else?

The main issue is Would this be a good ad for Mandrakesoft?.

If you built bad quality bugged CDs with Mandrake name, the people will
say that mandrake is crap.

Maybe just add a notice that they are not official mandrake CDs.

-- 
Warly



Re: [Cooker] Want to do a magazine CD

2003-11-07 Thread Buchan Milne
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Leon Brooks wrote:
 On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You might want to consider a live CD version ... (if it's prime
purpose isn't for installation, but more for demo).


 This one will be intended for installation.

 I am also considering a live CD as a later project, one with most of the
 above plus a web browser and the like, aimed at being a plug this in
 and try it template that developers can use to ship an active site
 (databases etc copied to a RAMdisk) to a customer.

 It would be even better with a script named i_like_it which installs
 to the running machine's hard disk if the end customer does in fact
 like it.


Patches are welcome (although I personally believe this is 2nd-rate and
potentially dangerous method of doing an installation since you don't
have much assurance about the binaries ...)


Well, if we get an answer on this, can we get it on the Wiki.


 Yes, please!

 A Knoppix-alike-Mandrake-HOWTO page would also be wonderful, if anyone
 reading this has ever made one.


# urpmi mklivecd

$ less /usr/share/doc/mklivecd*/FAQ

(there have been some features and bugfixes in CVS, and we should
probably get a new release out in a few days).

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Want to do a magazine CD

2003-11-07 Thread Jaco Greeff
On Friday 07 November 2003 11:37, Buchan Milne wrote:
 (there have been some features and bugfixes in CVS, and we should
 probably get a new release out in a few days).

Indeed. 

Jaco




Re: [Cooker] Want to do a magazine CD with 9.2 plus LG-proof kernel

2003-11-06 Thread Leon Brooks
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:48, Pascal Terjan wrote:
 Francisco Alcaraz wrote:
 I just have bought a linux magazine (Todo Linux) that comes with
 the two first Mandrake 9.2 and, of course, with the old kernel.
 Nothing in the magazine warn about the possible problem with LG
 cdrom drivers.

 It could be problematic have lot of people having their LG
 cdrom-drivers broken. At least a note about the danger should be
 put.

 :-(

 Mandrake should be more carefull with this, shouldn't it?

 I'm pretty sure the magazine didn't even bother to tell Mandrakesoft
 they'll distibute the 9.2...

OK... I'm planning to include a slightly-less-than-single-ISO version of 
9.2 plus the updates and an LG-proof kernel on the cover of an 
Australian magazine. It will be aimed at a single purpose: installing a 
secure, database-backed Mandrake Linux webserver/mailserver/gateway 
machine for developers to use either for real or as a staging area or 
an intranet server/testbed.

What are the rules Mandrake would like me to follow?

For example, if I include a PLF package or the NVidia/ATI drivers, what 
must I change? The distro's name? Licence terms?

What can I do with the advertising screens? Are Mandrake happy for me to 
add extra images to the sequence, one to loudly remind the audience 
that this is not an official Mandrake distribution - it's been built 
for the magazine - one to advertise Linux contacts in Australia, and so 
on?

What else?

Cheers; Leon




Re: [Cooker] Want to do a magazine CD with 9.2 plus LG-proof kernel

2003-11-06 Thread bgmilne
 On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 04:48, Pascal Terjan wrote:

 I'm pretty sure the magazine didn't even bother to tell Mandrakesoft
 they'll distibute the 9.2...

 OK... I'm planning to include a slightly-less-than-single-ISO version of
  9.2 plus the updates and an LG-proof kernel on the cover of an
 Australian magazine. It will be aimed at a single purpose: installing a
 secure, database-backed Mandrake Linux webserver/mailserver/gateway
 machine for developers to use either for real or as a staging area or
 an intranet server/testbed.

You might want to consider a live CD version ... (if it's prime purpose
isn't for installation, but more for demo).


 What are the rules Mandrake would like me to follow?

 For example, if I include a PLF package or the NVidia/ATI drivers, what
 must I change? The distro's name? Licence terms?

 What can I do with the advertising screens? Are Mandrake happy for me to
  add extra images to the sequence, one to loudly remind the audience
 that this is not an official Mandrake distribution - it's been built
 for the magazine - one to advertise Linux contacts in Australia, and so
 on?


You probably want to replace mandrake_theme at least. IMHO
bootsplash-themes should have subpackages, which preferably provide
mandrake_theme if they have the backgrounds and lilo splash screen.

 What else?

Well, if we get an answer on this, can we get it on the Wiki. This really
needs to be documented, considering Fedora is now a better option for this
(all RH artwork removed, all fedora artwork in fedora* packages)

Regards,
Buchan





Re: [Cooker] Want to do a magazine CD

2003-11-06 Thread Leon Brooks
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You might want to consider a live CD version ... (if it's prime
 purpose isn't for installation, but more for demo).

This one will be intended for installation.

I am also considering a live CD as a later project, one with most of the 
above plus a web browser and the like, aimed at being a plug this in 
and try it template that developers can use to ship an active site 
(databases etc copied to a RAMdisk) to a customer.

It would be even better with a script named i_like_it which installs 
to the running machine's hard disk if the end customer does in fact 
like it.

 Well, if we get an answer on this, can we get it on the Wiki.

Yes, please!

A Knoppix-alike-Mandrake-HOWTO page would also be wonderful, if anyone 
reading this has ever made one.

Cheers; Leon