[CTRL] [Fwd: PEPIS - elite to meet in Harrogate]

1999-09-14 Thread Kevin





British American Project for the successor generation - annual meeting

Tony's page
www.bilderberg.org/bap.htm


>Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:56:24 +
>Subject: BAP
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Tony Gosling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Hull, Monday
>
>Dear Tony,
>   If you run a  mailing list of some kind, would
>you like to inform it that this year's British American Project meeting will
>be held in Harrogate, at the Majestic Hotel, 13-17 November.
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>Robin Ramsay
Lobster magazine - what the BBC should be covering - kill your television
http://www.knowledge.co.uk/xxx/lobster/index.htm


FOR UK RECIPIENTS
There's one television programme every six months that may be worth watching
Wed 15th Sept. 1999 - Exodus, living with the enemy  - 9pm BBC2








[CTRL] [Fwd: [InTheShadows] NewsHawk Updates]

1999-11-13 Thread Kevin





From: "Hilary A. Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

11.12.99
Jewish Group Vehemently Against Gun Control--Genocidal Legacy Cited


Thanks much to Byron Weeks for sending us this great article by Uri
Dowbenko at NitroNews.

Dowbenko's article focuses on Aaron Zelman, Executive Director of the
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO), who, thank God,
is urgently and vociferously raising the red flag for ALL potential
victims of the kind of extreme, vicious and inhuman racism which has led
to history's most horrific and brutal genocides.

Many of these incidents of mass genocide took place in this century.

Zelman alerts us to the fact that the Gun Control Act of 1968, which has
serves as the foundation of all subsequent (fed) gun control activity
and legislation in the U.S., was modeled virtually WORD-FOR-WORD on the
Nazi Weapons Law of 1938!

Interestingly, Zelman casts the NRA as a controlled, compromised,
fundamentally flawed group which has ALREADY shown it's willingness to
give away most of the store when it comes to the CRUCIAL issue. Dowbenko
quotes Zelman: "We [JPFO] are very different from the NRA. We believe
that gun control should be DESTROYED. "We view gun control as a CANCER,
a cancer that will destroy the GUARDIAN of the SECOND AMENDMENT of the
Bill of Rights (emphasis ours)."

Right ON, Aaron!

Zelman goes on to say that claims the CIA is behind such groups as
Handgun Control, Inc. are well founded, but "it shouldn't surprise
anybody. During World War II, before the CIA was organized, the OSS
[CIA's predecessor] brought in all of the Nazis. This has been
documented in a number of books, like [Christopher Simpson's] Blowback."

Indeed, NewsHawk has repeatedly urged it's readers to study closely this
very same sordid chapter in our history, when massive infestation of the
highest levels of federal government agencies with outright, hardcore
NAZI filth occurred.

They and their cohorts are now more in control of our federal government
than ever before.

Zelman ALSO makes extremely important points about the endless
proliferation of HIGHLY suspicious mass shooting incidents in the U.S.
in recent years such as at COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL, which he sees as being
orchestrated by said federalist Nazi vermin to terrorize and stampede
the populace into accepting the obliteration of one of our MOST
FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS as outlined in the 2nd Amendment.

Dowbenko closes his article with this:
"JPFO's best selling posters and T-shirts make the point very clear.
There's a picture of Hitler with a Cheshire cat grin. His right hand is
extended in the sieg heil salute. The caption says, "All those in favor
of gun control, raise your right hand."

This is a very important and fact-filled article which we urge ALL our
readers to study... CAREFULLY!

And then--TAKE ACTION! Don't EVER willingly let our government take THIS
RIGHT AWAY!!!



NewsHawk® Inc.


-- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

THE GENOCIDE AGENDA
HISTORY OF "GUN CONTROL"

By Uri Dowbenko,
Media Columnist

Article at: http://www.nitronews.com/dowbenko.html


There's absolutely no doubt gun control laws lead to genocide, says
Aaron Zelman.

Zelman, Executive Director of the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms
Ownership (JPFO), believes that the case against gun control is
self-evident. He cites historical statistics to prove his point.

In the 20th Century, there have been at least seven major genocides, he
reveals. At least 56 million persons, including millions of children,
have been murdered by officials of what he calls "governments gone bad."
The body count includes: 1. Ottoman Turkey (1915-1917) - 1.5 million
Armenians murdered 2. Soviet Union (1929-1953) - 20 million people who
opposed Stalin murdered 3. Nazi-occupied Europe (1933-1945) - 13 million
people, including Jews, Gypsies and others who opposed Hitler, murdered
4. China (1948-1952) - 20 million anti-communists, not including
Tibetans, murdered 5. Guatemala (1960-1981) - 100,000 Mayan Indians
murdered 6. Uganda (1971-1979) - 300,000 Christians and rivals of Idi
Amin murdered 7. Cambodia (1975-1979) - 1 million persons murdered

In every case, before the wholesale slaughter began, at least one "gun
control" law was on the book, says Zelman. In recent cases of US armed
intervention, in which citizens were murdered in their own countries,
Haiti had a "gun control" law (December 22, 1922, amended October 1,
1980) and so did Bosnia, when it was part of the former Yugoslavia
(September 17, 1964).

The cynical arms embargo against the Bosnian Muslims, by the way,
prevented people from defending themselves against Bosnian Serb
so-called "ethnic cleansing."

Nazi Parallels With American Gun Control Laws

In a fascinating book called Gun Control: Gateway To Tyranny, authors
Jay Simkin and Aaron Zelman show that the Nazi Weapons Law (March 18,
1938) is the source of the US Gun Control Act of 1968.

In the book, the official German text of the Nazi law is presented
side-by-side with its American cou

[CTRL] [Fwd: [InTheShadows] NewsHawk Updates 2]

1999-11-13 Thread Kevin





From: "Hilary A. Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

11.12.99
MORE/Fl. 990--What Happened


On Art Bell's radio program on 11.11.99, Ed Dames said he "knew what
happened" to EgyptAir Fl. 990.

Master tale-spinner Dames claimed to have "remote-viewed" the scene as
the jet was going through it's death throes around 2 AM, Oct. 31. Dames
said that a crewmember was responsible for the recent major air
disaster--that the crewmember attacked the pilot.

We can't discount this possibility, but it must be said that MANY people
find Dames' credibility to be so LOW as to be almost "subterranean"...
This is due to the utter bullshit Dames propagated for months and months
a couple of years back: to the effect that Comet Hale-Bopp had some
(presumably "alien") biological warfare weapon traveling in it's tail,
which was absolutely CERTAIN to impact the earth's surface, utterly
devastating all plant life on the planet and in turn killing off a huge
percentage of the human population. Dames NEVER let up on this hurricane
of hot air, blathering it over and over and over, for like... nearly TWO
YEARS! He may STILL be propounding this noise, we don't really know and
couldn't care less.

Last time I checked, we're all still here. My plants all look good.

Either Dames is a lunatic, a liar or one the premiere government disinfo
artists around.

We were never able to figure out why Bell kept on putting Dames back on
the air to keep spewing the same outrageous horsepoop about Hale-Bopp.
Nevertheless, we think that in the main Art Bell provides a useful
service to the public.


Now, as for what REALLY happened to the plane? Well, the last time
NewsHawk tried to publicize any significant amount of information about
this we got our wings clipped bigtime. We've just been advised today
that this is considered extremely risky territory for us or anyone else
to be traversing at this particular time, so we're going to tread
lightly for now. We'll publish more substantive information about the
crash of Fl. 990 if and when it seems appropriate--and SAFE--to do so.

However, we DO feel it's reasonable to assume that the information made
public to date by us, Charlie (ELFRAD) Plyler and Kent Steadman of
Cyberspace Orbit is DEFINITELY too close to the mark for some people's
comfort. That would DEFINITELY include the information we made public
regarding the reported presence of "Hall of Records search team" members
on board Fl. 990.

And here's another VERY interesting little tidbit which slipped through
the cracks, and which we almost missed! Look at the emphasized words in
the VERY BEGINNING of the Boston Herald article which we sent out this
morning.

--(http://www.bostonherald.com/bostonherald/nat/plan11121999.htm)
Crash probe eyes flight crew
by Laura Brown and Jules Crittenden

Friday, November 12, 1999
Federal criminal investigators probing the fatal crash of EgyptAir 990
are focusing on unusual pre-flight behavior by the plane's flight crew
and are actively pursuing leads that suggest the disaster "was not an
accident," a source close to the investigation said yesterday.

"The ACCIDENT SIDE has come up empty-handed so far, "the source said.
"However, the OTHER SIDE has been pursuing some very interesting leads
that this aircraft WAS IN DANGER." --

Ahem. The "other side"? And exactly WHICH "other side" might that be?
The side that's actually pursuing the truth? Is the Herald's source
referring to a U.S. government agency? A foreign government agency? A
private investigative group?

Whoever the bizarre statement refers to, it CLEARLY indicates what we
made note of in a recent article: that the NTSB, the FAA, the Air Force,
EgyptAir and Egyptian government officials are in definite conflict with
each other regarding numerous aspects of the crash.


NewsHawk® Inc.

**

11.12.99
Baby Body Parts A Lucrative Scam


Ghouls who market human body parts obtained from abortions are getting
around prohibitions aimed at preventing anyone from making a profit as a
result of providing such horrifically acquired parts; as explained in
this very disturbing article.

OUR tax dollars are used to operate the National Institutes of Health
(?), which is continually increasing the amount of money allotted for fetal
tissue research. That's what has led to this outrage of for-profit
marketing of these human baby body parts.

It's hard to believe something so grotesque, vile and offensive is going
on with the active assistance of a federal agency.

Or IS it?


NewsHawk® Inc.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

By Frank York
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

Ever since President Clinton signed the National Institutes of Health
Revitalization Act of 1993, "fetal-tissue research" has expanded into a
federally subsidized multi-million dollar industry of selling human
spare parts salvaged from abortions.

For example, the NIH budgeted $21 million in fiscal year 1999 for grants
and awards for fetal tissue research. At the University of Washington,
the NIH subsidizes the central l

[CTRL] [Fwd: The Big Issue leaks 1999 Bilderberg papers]

1999-01-17 Thread Kevin





BIG ISSUE - BIG SPLASH ON BILDERBERG

The Big Issue is Britain's best-seling street newspaper.  It is appropriate
that someone should have chosen to leak details of this secret sabbat at
the altar of Capitalism through a network of their most sorry victims, the
homeless.

As Tony Blair's government continues to implement budget-led policies that
fulfil the internationalist wishes of the City of London his mask is
wearing thin... It will be interesting to see if broadsheet columnists can
see through it too.  Or are our newspapers, as Bilderberg critics would
have us believe, merely there to convey an illusion of choice?  I faxed all
the details of this year's Bilderberg summit direct to Hugo Young at the
Guardian back in June - not a pip-squeak of a mention, nor even a reply.
Still, not all media are quite so blind to the facts.

http://www.bigissue.com
The Big Issue - on sale on the street all over Britain - price £1.00 (55p
goes to homeless vendor).

The edition that contains this story will be on sale until this weekend -
follow-up story in next week's edition.

It is crucial that we all break the taboo on this elite cabal.  They offer
many answers to what seems a confounding inability of present-day
politicians to either stick to manifesto pledges or show any substantive
differences in policy from the other major political parties.

The fact is the government is in ever-increasing debt to the money masters
(see http://www.themoneymasters.com) and as we all know 'the borrower is
servant to the lender' Proverbs 22:7

If there were the political will to subvert the private bankers by
cancelling debt and returning the issuance of currency to the treasury,
where it rightfully belongs, our public-spending problems would be solved.
Unfortunately both our mainstream media and our mainstream political
parties seem unable to consider the one solution which could relieve
poverty right across the world.  If you want to find out more about who
controls money and how it is rooted in a fraud do check out 'The Money
Masters' video/audio tapes and book.


cheers,

Tony

www.bilderberg.org



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http://www.bilderberg.org/1999.htm


 HIDDEN AGENDA
The Big Issue - 15th November 1999

> In the first of a two-part series, Gibby Zobel uncovers how the global
power elite decides our future at the shadowy Bilderberg Summit each year.
Documents from the secret summit - leaked to The Big Issue - reveal what
they said about money and war


> For nearly 50 years an elite group of the West's most powerful men and
women, a shadow world government, have met in secret. Tony Blair is in the
club. Every US president since Ike Eisenhower has been too. So are top
members of the British Government. So are the people who control what you
watch and read - the media barons. Which is why you may never have heard of
Bilderberg.
> "Lines of black limousines, unmarked except for a 'B' on the windscreen,
swept in, sometimes accompanied by police escorts, sometimes not," says an
eyewitness of this year's meeting in Portugal. "A helicopter was overhead,
and other security officers were prudently patrolling the hillsides. The
policy on duty at the gates made it crystal clear that they were only the
tip of the security iceberg."
> For two-and-a-half days, relaxing in exclusive luxury amid vast armed
security, the powerful leaders discussed past and future wars, a European
superstate, a global currency, genetics, and the dismantling of the welfare
state. Unaccountable, untroubled and unreported, the Bilderberg meetings
have formed the basis of international policy for decades. Last year
freelance journalist Campbell Thomas was arrested just for knocking on
doors near the clandestine gathering in Turnberry, Scotland. He remained in
custody for eight hours. Other journalists were told that even the
Bilderberg menu was confidential (a move they named 'Kippergate'). A
serving police officer told 'The Big Issue': "Special Branch and CIA were
everywhere - they were calling the shots."
> Never in its 47-year history has the content of these discussions been
made public. Until now. 'The Big Issue' has uncovered the Bilderberg Papers
- the secret minutes of this year's meeting in Portugal. Some of it is
banal, some of it sensational. It blows th

Re: [CTRL] Global Peace Walk 2000 ; 2000 Election: stategy, planning

1999-11-24 Thread Kevin

 -Caveat Lector-

 They changed 'new world order' to 'globalization'. The elections are done by
computer. Read vote scam.  We aren't at war so why have a peace march?  If it's
American platform, why call it global? This is straight out of un agenda 21.
Pluz..

 Kevin


Dave wrote:

>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Dave Hartley
> http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Crockett Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 2:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Friends of Free Cannabis; FoodNotBombs List;
> BayAreaActivistList; Activist Mailing List; InTheShadows; CIA-Drugs
> List; a RainbowList agr
> Cc: Brian Murphy; NORMLFNDTN; Allen Saint-Pierre; CANORML, (Dale
> Gieringer); Steven Kubby; *Global Peace Walk Project; =Trilight - SF
> GPW2000 HQ
> Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] 2000 Election: stategy, planning
>
> From: "David Crockett Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> With this recent result continuing the Congress' opposition to cannabis
> medicine by prohibiting the DC I-59 implementation, the harassment and
> cruelty of Federal courts actions against Todd McCormick and Peter
> McWilliams, case of CA Gubernatorial candidate Steve Kubby, etc., and the
> persecution across the nation on this issue the time seems right in context
> of Elections 2000 campaign to push for a national legalization issue which
> all candidates must address in their electioneering.  That is, a campaign so
> strong that by next summer everyone running for national office knows that
> they will not get elected unless they publicly and strongly support
> relegalization of medical cannabis as well as other important progressive
> issues such as environmental preservation, ameliorating global climate
> changes, etc.
>
> How can this be done?
>
> By creating an American Platform uniting this with other progressive issues
> all of which warrant such endorsements as key changes that need to take
> place, eg, also, industrial hemp, abolition of nuclear weapons (see HR2545
> the global Nuclear Disarmament and Economic Conversion Act of 1999
> http://www.prop1.org ), stop nuclear testing and waste dumping, overall drug
> law reform, stop CIA drug smuggling ( see http://www.copvcia.com ), adequate
> funding for new energy  technologies development to replace nuclear and
> fossil fuel power and neutralize radioactive wastes (some background and
> links at http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000 ), indigenous peoples issues,
> Free Leonard Peltier, etc.
>
> How to publicize and mobilize and unite the various issue group
> constituencies to combine their strength to promote such a global peace
> platform, (American Platform?)?
>
> Global Peace Walk 2000 is an ideal vehicle to help accomplish this by all
> progressive issues uniting together in its support and efforts walking,
> publicizing and carrying these messages across country next year from San
> Francisco (departing January 15th in context of second largest MLK birthday
> events nationally then down the coast to Los Angeles, nuclear test site, Big
> Mountain, etc) to Washington DC (for Oct9 Millennial Peace Ceremony at
> Washington Monument with perhaps over one million people on that date which
> is Columbus Day holiday coincident with, according to Smithsonian Institute,
> 1000 year anniversary observance of Vikings coming to America, and also John
> Lennon's birthday) and ending in New York City for the United Nations 55th
> anniversary to help inaugurate the UN Year and Decade of creating a Culture
> of Peace for the 21st Century.
>
> This Global Peace Walk project was initiated with the 1995 walk from NYC to
> SF for the UN50th anniversary by a zen buddhist monk, Rev. Yusen Yamato, who
> will be conducting Global Peace Walk 2000 to mobilize American Citizens to
> help fulfill President Clinton's offering to the 1995 walk, his UN50th
> message calling on Americans to help fulfill the original goals of the UN
> charter to remove the scourge of war from the future generations.  This
> project has received many letters/messages and proclamations of support
> since 1995 including recently from the mayors of San Francisco, Berkeley,
> Oakland CA, and onstage at Woodstock'99 from the mayor of Rome NY.   In 1995
> we received proclamations and letters from New Mexico officials including
> Taos and Santa Fe Mayors, both Senators, and Gov. Gary Johnson whose letter
> of support text is reproduced at end of this post.  We expect Gov. Johnson's
> participation and support for GPW2000 in Santa Fe in April.
>
> Your letter of support with your "survival issue messages" will also be
> carried by the walk and we ask PLEASE for their submissi

[CTRL] hi tech warfare on citizens

1999-08-19 Thread Kevin

 Here is an overview. For the entire document (28 pages ) in .pdf go to
http://www.gulfwarvets.com/mac.htm


THE REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS
AND
   CONFLICT SHORT OF WAR


Steven Metz
and
  James O. Kievit

   July 25, 1994

   The views expressed in this report are those of the authors and do not
  necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the Department of
   the Army, the Department of Defense, or the U.S. Government.

  

 FOREWORD

For many experts on U.S. national security, the combination of emerging
technology and innovative ideas seen in the Gulf War seem to herald a
genuine revolution in military affairs. The victory of coalition forces
demonstrated the technology and seemed to suggest that the revolution in
military affairs can solve many of the strategic problems faced by the
United States in the post-Cold War security environment.

In this study, the authors concede that the revolution in military affairs
holds great promise for conventional, combined-arms warfare, but conclude
that its potential value in conflict short of war, whether terrorism,
insurgency, or violence associated with narcotrafficking, is not so
clear-cut. Given this, national leaders and strategists should proceed
cautiously and only after a full exploration of the ethical, political, and
social implications of their decisions. To illustrate this, the authors
develop a hypothetical future scenario--a "history" of U.S. efforts in
conflict short of war during the first decade of the 21st century.

It is too early to offer concrete policy prescriptions for adapting many
aspects of the revolution in military affairs to conflict short of war, but
the authors do suggest an array of questions that should be debated. In
order to decide whether to apply new technology and emerging concepts or
how to employ them, the United States must first reach consensus on
ultimate objectives and acceptable costs. The Strategic Studies Institute
is pleased to offer this study as a first step in this process.

  JOHN W. MOUNTCASTLE
  Colonel, U.S. Army
  Director, Strategic Studies Institute

  

  SUMMARY


Many American strategic thinkers believe that we are in the beginning
stages of a historical revolution in military affairs (RMA). This will not
only change the nature of warfare, but also alter the global geopolitical
balance.

To date, most attention has fallen on the opportunities provided by the RMA
rather than its risks, costs, and unintended consequences. In the arena of
conflict short of war, these risks, costs, and unintended consequences may
outweigh the potential benefits.

The Strategic Context.

The Cold War notion of conflict short of war is obsolete. Politically and
militarily, the Third World of the future will be full of danger. The
future will most likely be dominated by peace enforcement in failed states,
new forms of insurgency and terrorism, and "gray area phenomena." Many if
not most Third World states will fragment into smaller units.
Ungovernability and instability will be the norm with power dispersed among
warlords, primal militias, and well-organized politico-criminal
organizations. U.S. policy in the Third World is likely to be more
selective and the U.S. homeland may no longer provide sanctuary. Renewed
external support will restore the lagging proficiency of insurgents and
terrorists.

The Application of Emerging Technology.

Emerging technology will have less impact on conflict short of war than on
conventional, combined-arms warfare. It will, however, have some role. In
noncombatant evacuation operations, new technology can assist with
identification and notification of evacuees. Sensor technology, robotics,
nonlethal weapons, and intelligence meshes will be used in combatting
terrorism, countering narcotrafficking, and peace operations. These
technologies, along with simulator training and unmanned aerial vehicles,
will also be useful in insurgency and counterinsurgency.

Constraints and Countermeasures.

There are a number of constraints on applying the RMA to conflict short of
war. These include the lack of a powerful institutional advocate for this
process, a shortage of money for the development of technology specifically
for conflict short of war, and the possibility that new technology may run
counter to American values.

Enemies may also develop countermeasures to RMA innovations. Rather than
attempt to match the technological prowess of U.S. forces, future enemies
will probably seek asymmetrical co

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: MIND CONTROL GOES PUBLIC!

1999-09-29 Thread Kevin

 -Caveat Lector-

>  TED GUNDERSON, Former FBI Special
> Agent.
>

 Isn't this guy being sued by Art Bell?

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[CTRL] [Fwd: [TheEagle-L] (((SHOCKWAVE))) URGENT]

1999-10-12 Thread Kevin





THE POWER OF THE UN

EXTREMELY URGENT * EXTREMELY URGENT

 Date: 10/10/1999

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (APFN)

  NETWORK FAR AND WIDE

 PDD 25 http://mikenew.com/pdd25.html

EXTREMELY URGENT * EXTREMELY URGENT

 Toll free to the US Congress: 1-888-449-3511 or 1-800-449-3511

 Pay for call at: 202-224-3121 OR 202-225-3121

 Rep. Chris Smith blocks Rep. Ron Paul's "American Sovereignty Restoration
Act" (H.R. 1146) which will get the
 US out of the United Nations.

 It has been boldly stated by former U.N. Secretary General Boutros
Boutros-Ghali that "The time of absolute and
 exclusive sovereignty, however, has passed..." That's the real danger of
the United Nations. And that's why the
 United States must get out of the United Nations. To achieve that, we must
break Rep. Smith's roadblock and
 DEMAND that hearings be held on H.R. 1146.

 IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED:

 1. Write or call Rep. Chris Smith and demand that hearings be held on H.R.
1146. His office number is
 (1-888-449-3511 OR 1-800-449-3511

 Pay for call at: 202-224-3121 OR 202-225-3121 His address is:

Honorable Chris Smith
 United States House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515.

 2. Write or call the office of the International Operations and Human
Rights Committee and demand that hearings
 be held on H.R. 1146 at (202) 225-5748. The address is

B358 Rayburn
House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515.

 3. Call your congressman and urge him to cosponsor H.R. 1146.

 The Capitol Hill House Switchboard phone number is: 1-888-449-3511 or
1-800-449-3511 Pay for call at:
 202-224-3121 OR 202-225-3121.

 4. Call Speaker Hastert and urge GOP leadership to demand hearings on H.R.
1146. Ph: 1-888-449-3511 or
 1-800-449-3511 Pay for call at: (202) 225-0600.


***

  YOU MUST CHOOSE
---

 US SOVEREIGNTY OR U.N. DICTATORSHIP.

 THE INACTION ON THE PART OF INDIVIDUAL US CITIZENS

 WILL IN FACT BE A VOTE FOR UN DICTATORSHIP.

 For more detail on the United Nations plans for individual Americans and
OUR LAND please consult the following
 documents.

 1. The United Nations plan to separate the child from the parent and make
the child a ward of "the state." For
 details on "--- this new concept of separate rights for children with the
Government accepting responsibility for
 protecting the child from the power of parents], economic exploitation and
social neglect." read the UN document:
 The U.N. Convention On The Rights Of The Child at
http://www.vvm.com/~ctomlin/A12.htm

 2. The U.N. plan to control the eduation of "YOUR" children.
http://www.unesco.org

 3. The U.N. plan to control "YOUR" Mental Health.
http://www.vvm.com/~ctomlin/a70.htm

 4. The U.N. plan for a U.N. Cop On Every Corner In America??:
http://www.vvm.com/~ctomlin/a46.htm

 5. The U.N. plan to control "YOUR" Community
 http://www.vvm.com/~ctomlin/a71.htm

 The Convention on Biological Diversity (1992)
 http://www.unep.ch/bio/conv-e.html#Art1

 contains the full text of the Convention on Biological Diversity, which
was opened for signature at the 1992 Rio
 "Earth Summit".

 To read an explanatory leaflet about the Convention on Biological
Diversity click on the following:
 http://www.unep.ch/bio/bio-leaf.html

 6. The U.N. plan to take over vast areas of U.S. land mass. For an
alarming visual perspective of this plan view the
 milti-color relief map at: THIS IS A "MUST SEE."

 http://www.america-collins.com/biomaps.htm

 "Inside Yellowstone, the U.S. Park Service is shutting down campgrounds as
the park is being prepared to become
 the core of a huge biosphere reserve, as part of the United Nations global
biodiversity plan," he said. "Once
 established, no human activity will be permitted in the area," even though
U.S. taxpayers must continue to fund the
 maintenance and upkeep of Yellowstone and other popular outdoor tourist
sites. For detail information please refer
 to: United Nations Educational Scientific And Cultural Organization
(UNESCO) Convention Concerning The
 Protection of The World Cultural And Natural Heritage (WHC-98/CONF.203/18)
(Paris, 29 January 1999). To read
 the full text of this plan click on the following.

 http://www.unesco.org/whc/nwhc/pages/home/pages/homepage.htm

 Due to the extreme urgency of this matter The Christian Alert Network
(TCAN) respectfully requests that this
 ALERT be forwarded to the maximum extent possible by all organizations and
individuals.

 TCAN further urges all individual US citizens to make the above contact
IMMEDIATELY and CONTINUE

[CTRL] [Fwd: Fw: The State Legislatures sanctioned and approved World Government]

1999-01-02 Thread Kevin





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> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: WEBMASTER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999 2:27 AM
> Subject: The State Legislatures sanctioned and approved World Government
>
>
> >From: Joyce Rosenwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >1943-1945
> >
> > The State Legislatures sanctioned and approved World Government
> >during the period of 1940 to 1949 three times.  During the period 1940 to
> >1945, the State Legislatures sanctioned and approved the United Nations
> >organization before ratification by the President and Senate on July 28,
> >1945.  The American people were not aware of this legislation as it was
> >never intended to be publicized to any extent.  Further, the people were
> >never afforded an opportunity to vote on this legislation.
> > The United Nations Organization Resolution was presented to the
> >legislatures during the years 1940 to 1945.  It is to be noted that there
> >were three instruments.  This caused confusion and misunderstanding by
> >the people, because the World Government Resolution has been repealed by
> >almost all the states.  However, the United Nations Resolution and the
> >World Federalist Resolution are still on the books.  (Check the records
> >of your legislature for these resolutions.)
> > In effect, the State Legislatures ratified the United Nations
> >Organization
> >and World Government.  By doing so, they repealed, set aside, supplanted
> >and substituted the Constitution and Government of these United States
> >with the United Nations Charter and the United Nations Organization.
> > Below is a copy of the document providing for a declaration of the
> >Federation of the World approved by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania in
> >1943.
> >
> >HISTORY OF SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTIONS
> >(COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA)
> >
> >SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION
> >Serial No. 113. (Not printed). Legislative Journal page 711.
> >By Messrs.  FARRELL, CARR and WOODRING
> >PROVIDING FOR A DECLARATION OF THE FEDERATION OF THE WORLD
> >
> >In the senate, March 9, 1943.
> >
> >WHEREAS, it is necessary at the present juncture of human affairs to
> >enlarge the bases of organized society by establishing a government for
> >the community of nations. In order to preserve civilization and enable
> >mankind to live in peace and be free, the following principles and
> >objectives are hereby  enunciated in
> >
> >THE DECLARATION OF THE FEDERATION OF THE WORLD
> >
> >Man,  the source of all political authority, is  a manifold political
> >being. He is a citizen  of several communities: the city, the state  the
> >nation and the world. To each of these communities, he owes inalienable
> >obligations and from each he receives enduring benefits.
> >
> >Communities  may exist for a time without being incorporated but under
> >the stress of adversity, they disintegrate unless legally organized.
> >Slowly but purposefully through the centuries,  civilization has united
> >the world, integrating its diverse local interests and creating an
> >international community that now embraces every region and every person
> >on the globe. This community has no government,  and communities
> >without governments  perish.  Either this community must succumb to
> >anarchy or submit to the restraints of law and order.
> >
> >Governments can only be established through the deliberate efforts of
> >men.At this hour two elemental forces are struggling to organize the
> >international community:  totalitarianism  and democracy. The former, a
> >recent version of  repudiated  militarism and tyranny,   is predicated
> >upon the principle of compulsion, rules through  dictatorship and
> >enslaves men;  the latter, a proved  bulwark of the rights of man as
> >human being and as a citizen, drives its authority from the consent of
> >the governed, embodies the will of free men and  renders their
> >collective judgements supreme in human affairs. The corner stone of
> >totalitarianism is the ethnographic state,  whose restricted interests
> >define the scope of its favor; the foundation of democracy is man
> >whose integrity is inviolable and whose welfare is its primary concern.
> >The motivating power of  the former violence; of the latter freedom.  One
> >feeds upon unscrupulous ambition; the other upon an enlightened sense
> >of obligation.
> >
> >One or the other of these forces will now triumph and govern mankind.
> >The present conflict is irrepressible and decisive. It is the challenge
> >of the ages to the generation of today, and represents those spiritually
> >cosmic forces which visit the world at critical periods in human history
> >to shape the destinies of men. This world cannot remain half-slave,
> >half-free; half totalitarian, half democratic. The laws of civilized
> >society prevent intercourse between slaves and free men from being
> >either congenial or profitable. 

[CTRL] NEW WORLD ORDER UPDATE

1999-04-27 Thread Kevin

 -Caveat Lector-

 John Whitley publisher the NEW WORLD ORDER INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
(http://www.inforamp.net/~jwhitley) was on Sightings radio show. You can
listen via realaudio archive.
http://www.broadcast.com/shows/endoftheline/99archives.stm
 He explains more on Kosovo and Russia.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Icke's Shape-shifting Reptilians

1999-05-01 Thread Kevin

 -Caveat Lector-

 Well, we have Doc Marquis who grew up in a Illumanati family. There is an
interview with him at the Sightings archive. He talks about their religion
(luciferian if I remember right) and a friend of his took a picture of them at
Bohemian Grove. They were dressed in robes around the fire.Their holidays demand
child sacrifices. Sounds close.

Kris Millegan wrote:

>   
>
> Subject: Konformist: Icke's Shape-shifting Reptilians
> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 23:29:24 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
>
> Please send as far and wide as possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert Sterling
> Editor, The Konformist
> http://www.konformist.com
>
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> please visit http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist/ and sign up. Or, e-mail
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> (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.)
>
> Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!:
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>
> Icke's Shape-shifting Reptilians
> From: Bruce Fleming
>
> IUFO  Mailing List
>
> Excerpt from David Icke book "The Biggest Secret" concerning
> shape-shifting reptilians
>
> [Note: Weeks after reading Icke's book. I still don't know what to
> think or make of it. Browsing thru old iufo archives. I found out that
> a person here has indeed seen one of these super-imposed reptoid
> figure. However. Icke said there are many kinds of Reptilian; there
> are those full bloodied reptilians who can shape-shift, there are
> those who are possessed. So far I've only heard directly from a
> person about the latter. Has anyone of you or know others who have
> actually seen the shape-shifting version of the Reptoids? Icke also
> mentioned about Cathy O'Brien being raped by a number of different
> political figures such as Bill Clinton. It may or may not be true. But
> then who would have believed the 22 yr old Monica if not for a fact
> that she is a White House Intern. Let's keep an open mind and subject
> everything to full scale critical multi-disciplinary analysis. I'll
> comment on the bloodlines question in a separate message. - Bruce]
>
> David Icke wrote:
>
> "In a remarkable period of 15 days as I travelled, around the United
> States in 1998, I met more than a dozen separate people who told me of
> how they had seen humans transform into reptiles and go back again in
> front of their eyes. Two television presenters had just such an
> experience while interviewing, a man who was in favour of the global
> centralisation of power known as the New World Order. After the live
> interview, the male presenter said to his colleague that he had
> experienced an amazing sight during the interview. He had seen the
> man's face transform into a lizard-like creature and then return to
> human. His female fellow presenter was astounded because she had seen
> the interviewee's hands turn reptilian. The male presenter also told
> me of an experience a policeman friend had while making a routine
> visit: to an office block in Aurora, near Denver, Colorado. The
> policeman had commented to an executive of one of the companies on the
> ground: floor of the extreme nature o f security in the building. She
> told him he should look at the higher floors if he wanted to know how
> extensive it really  was. She also pointed to a lift which only went
> to certain floors at the top of the building and, as they chatted, she
> told him of something she had seen some weeks earlier. The lift had
> opened and a very strange figure had emerged. He was white to the
> point of: being albino, but he had a face shaped like a lizard and his
> eye pupils were vertical like a reptile's. This lizard-like figure,
> had walked out of the lift a nd in to an official-looking car waiting
> outside. The policeman was so intrigued that lie used his own time to
> check on the companies at the top of the building served, by the
> mystery lift. He found they were all fronts for the Central
> Intelligence Agency, the CIA.
>
> Then there are the experiences of Cathy O'Brien, the mind controlled
> slave of the United States government for more than 25 years, which
> she details in her astonishing book, Trance Formation Of America,
> written with Mark Phillips. She was sexually abused as a child and
> as an adult by a stream of famous people named in her book. Among them
> were the US Presidents, Gerald Ford, Bill Clinton and, most
> appallingly, George Bush, a: major player in the Brotherhood, as my
> books and others have long exposed. It w as Bush, a paedophile and
> serial killer, who regularly abused and raped Cathy's daughter, Kelly
> O'Brien,, as a toddler before her mother's courageous exposure of
> these staggering events forced the authorities to remove Kelly from
> the mind control programme known as Project Monarch. Cathy writes in
> Trance Formation O

Re: [CTRL] Icke's Shape-shifting Reptilians

1999-05-05 Thread Kevin

 -Caveat Lector-

> Just an experience I thought I would share; but really got me was, he
> backed off - not Iand I wonder what he saw in my eyesa lack of
> fear?
>

 Well, perhaps he wasn't expecting to a fellow shape-shifter or a person
controlled by one. Your bloodline is the key. The purer the better.
Really creepy how he links up the same lines from Babylon to now.
Forgot the reptiles, anyone with deep rooted blood lines will get a
lot of coincidences matched up in this book.

 Kevin

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Re: [CTRL] Russia's Operational Starwars Defense System

1999-04-17 Thread Kevin

 -Caveat Lector-

 This was confirmed by Dr. Coleman in the 92 version of THE COMMITTEE OF 300.  A
rather curious line tucked in the end of the book, "and why don't they pursue SDI
to protect us from Russian cosmospheres".



Bill Kingsbury wrote:

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>
> http://www.pufori.org/starwars1.htm
>--
>
> Russia's Operational Starwars Defense System
>
>By Robert E. McElwaine
>
>--
>
>   Word from Jeroen Wierda:
>
>This article is about a possible
>Russian "starwars like" defense system.
>ANY more information regarding this
>subject is more then welcome!  Send to
>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>
>The copyright remains with Robert E. McElwaine
>--
>
>  [This piece sent by someone on the "In-Search-Of" discussion list]
>
>  RUSSIA'S OPERATIONAL STARWARS DEFENSE SYSTEM
>  -
>
>  In February 1992, Russian President Boris Yeltsin proposed to the
>  United States and the United Nations a global defense shield (with
>  "Star Wars"-type weapons) BASED ON RUSSIAN TECHNOLOGY.
>
>  Some people might wonder what the "backward" Russians could
>  possibly have that would be of value for the S.D.I. research and
>  development program.
>
>  The little-known TRUTH is that the Russians started deploying an
>  OPERATIONAL "Star Wars" defense system in September 1977, and it
>  has greatly grown and improved since that time.  It is a
>  SPACE TRIAD built around CHARGED-PARTICLE BEAM and NEUTRON
>  PARTICLE BEAM WEAPONS.
>
>  In this article I will describe the Russian system as it developed
>  from 1977 to 1983, and give several examples of how it was used
>  during that period.  But first I will try to convince readers of
>  the credibility of my main source of information about it.
>
>  My main source is articles published in a weekly legislative
>  newspaper, WISCONSIN REPORT (WR), of Brookfield, Wisconsin, (P.O.
>  Box 45, zip 53005), written by the late Dr. Peter David Beter, a
>  well-respected Washington, DC attorney, Doctor of Jurisprudence,
>  and expert and consultant in international law, finance, and
>  intelligence, who received much of his information from associates
>  in the CIA and other intelligence groups of other countries who
>  disapproved of many of the things happening or being planned behind
>  the scenes.  They believed that at least limited public exposure
>  might delay and ultimately prevent the worst of those things, such
>  as NUCLEAR WAR and NATIONAL DICTATORSHIP, from taking place.
>
>  Dr. Beter started appearing on local radio and TV talk shows, but
>  soon found himself being BANNED from them, as a result of
>  government THREATS to cancel broadcast licenses.  So he started
>  producing monthly one-hour cassette tapes and sending them to a
>  growing list of subscribers.  From June 21, 1975 until November 3,
>  1982 he recorded eighty (80) "Dr. Beter Audio Letters", plus eight
>  "Audio Books", and three special topic tapes.  On September 1, 1977
>  Wisconsin Report started publishing transcripts of those Audio
>  Letters.
>
>  Based on information from his sources, Dr. Beter PREDICTED the
>  bombing of the Marines in Beirut A FULL YEAR BEFORE IT HAPPENED,
>  WARNING that the U.S. Pentagon and the Israeli Mossad were
>  CONSPIRING TO DELIBERATELY ARRANGE IT in order to try to get
>  Americans angry at the Arabs and generate public support for
>  PLANNED military action against them.  He reported the impending
>  assassination of Anwar Saddat of Egypt SIX DAYS BEFORE IT HAPPENED.
>  And Dr. Beter predicted what he called the "retirement" of Leonid
>  Brezhnev one week before Brezhnev officially "died", [note that the
>  word "retirement" was used for the TERMINATION OF REPLICANTS in the
>  1982 movie "Blade Runner"], and his quick replacement with Andropov
>  which occurred only three days after the "death" of Brezhnev, to
>  the surprise of all government and media analysts.  Subscription
>  application and renewal forms for Dr. Beter's tapes would usually
>  say, "Subscribe to the Dr. Beter Audio Letter and watch the news
>  start making sense."
>
>  RUSSIA'S SPACE TRIAD OF STAR WARS WEAPONS
>
>  In September 1977 the Russians started launching MANNED killer
>  satellites, called "COSMOS INTERCEPTORS", armed with
>  CHARGED-PARTICLE BEAM weapons, into earth orbit, (12-15-77 WR; and
>  Dr. Beter Audio Letter (AL) #27, Topic 1).  By April 1978 there
>  were about THREE DOZEN of them, and they had FINISHED DESTROYING
>  all American spy and early warning satellites, (5-18-78 WR, and AL
>  #33, Topic 2).
>
>  On September 27, 1977, in what Dr. Beter called "THE BATTLE OF THE
>  HARVEST MOON", a Cosmos Interceptor in Earth orbit used a
> 

Re: [CTRL] Russia's Operational Starwars Defense System

1999-04-17 Thread Kevin

 -Caveat Lector-

"As I pointed out in a previous post, there are a lot of inaccuracies in

> this book. I would not consider anything that Dr. Coleman says as
> confirmation of anything.
>
> Howard Davis
>

 So there are some inaccuracies in the book, do you then dismiss the ENTIRE book and
everything that author has written?  Just posting the only confirmation on the entire
net I could find about it.

BTW. I looked for you previous post and couldn't find it. Can you send me the
inaccuracies pls.? I haven't got the time to read all relevant books and cross
reference the information in hopes of getting all the correct information. Isn't that
what this list is for?
  Kevin

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Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern

1999-04-18 Thread Kevin

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 A joke that is severely misguided. Let's say they had the hearings. They put one
notice out and no other coverage until the decision came out. Surprise. It's all
over. I hear people who go into voting booths and pick out the best looking name.
They had a referendum last year that on the surface looked like an anti-thong law.
Looking closer, it must cover two-thirds the butt. Are they going to start
measuring? State approved swimwear?

 Kevin

Joe New wrote:

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>
> - Original Message -
> From: Hilary A. Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
>
> > > http://www.theonion.com/onion3514/unfit_to_govern.html
> > >  HREF="http://www.theonion.com/onion3514/unfit_to_govern.html">American
> > > People Ruled Unfit To Govern
> >
> > This is probably the most damaging event that could happen to the American
> > People!!!  Why isn't this blasted on all the air waves?  This effectively
> > AND legally turns us into a bunch of cows.  Moo  Damn it to Hell!!!
> > What the F@$%$ is going on with this country???
> >
> > Hilary
>
> Hey, it's just a joke.  Geez...
>
> Joe
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[CTRL] Kosovo update and IRS agent

1999-04-19 Thread Kevin

 -Caveat Lector-

 Sherman Skonick was on Sightings last nite. The largest mine in Europe
that produces gold, silver, coal, lead, zinc, and cadmium is in Kosovo.
Lots more.
  http://www.broadcast.com/shows/endoftheline/99archives.stm
  http://www.sightings.com/politics2/mines.htm
2 hours with ex-CID IRS Joe Banister with the statutes on the IRS being
voluntary.
   http://www.freedomabovefortune.com

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Re: [CTRL] Possibly 25 killed in Denver-area school shooting; 2suspects dead

1999-04-20 Thread Kevin
, Jason Greer, called them "jerks." "They are really strange, but I've
> never seen them do anything violent," he said.
>

Surprise. These strange jerks are violent. What is with the dress code?

>
> Sean Kelly, a 16-year-old junior, said members of the group kept to
> themselves and were "kind of gothic. They are wearing dusters. They wear
> them every day, all black clothing."
>
> "They're into guns and stuff like that," he added.
>

I thought gothic people liked vampires and the militia likes guns.

>
> At the adjacent Clement Park, students were shaking and crying as parents
> searched to find their children. Police helicopters whirled overhead and
> hundreds of police officers patrolled the area and a nearby park.
>
> At least 19 people were taken to hospitals, including a girl who suffered nine
> gunshot wounds to the chest. Kari Mackecher, spokesman for HealthOne,
> which runs Swedish Hospital, said four students were taken there, all in
> serious condition but conscious, and a fifth was en route.
>

9 in the chest? You can't count that many on the scene

>
> Five other hospitals reported getting 14 people, at least one of them in critical
> condition. The 20th injured person was the young man taken out of the school
> window at midafternoon.
>
> Denver and Littleton police, and Jefferson County and Arapahoe sheriff's
> deputies were helping on the scene.
>
> Columbine High is in the middle-class suburb of Littleton, population 35,000,
> southwest of Denver. Single-family homes line winding roads through the
> neighborhood.
>
> The school opened in 1973 and has an enrollment of about 1,800. Nearby
> schools were put on a lockdown status, with students prohibited from entering
> or leaving.
>
> A series of school shootings since 1997 shocked the nation and led to calls
> for tighter security and closer monitoring of troubled students. Two were killed
> at a school in Pearl, Miss., three at West Paducah, Ky., five at Jonesboro,
> Ark., and two at a school in  Springfield, Ore.
>
> --

I watched the sheriff talk to CFR Tom Brokaw. His eyes went right left right left as
he read the script to Tom on live T.V.
What a poor job of reading.

 Kevin

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Re: [CTRL] Raison d"etre ?

1999-04-21 Thread Kevin

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  I heard they just happen to have a concealed weapons bill on the upcoming
ballot. Should make for lively T.V. Bet the news media is salivating

Kevin

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> >DENVER, April 21 (UPI S) _ The National Rifle Association will hold its
> >annual convention in Denver starting on April 30, just 10 days after
> >heavily armed teenagers carried out an indiscriminate massacre at a
> >suburban high school. Some 22,000 NRA members expected to attend the
> >three-day meeting face yet another argument for gun control, which the
> >group passionately opposes.
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Re: [CTRL] Trenchcoat

1999-04-21 Thread Kevin
 were scum"now I wonder why these kids would
> do >as they did.who got their hooks into them, who set them offand
> why today?These kids were obviously on drugs, and this Mafia
> stuffwell how about >a few moremovies with DiNiro playing the Godfather;
> he is in trouble now in Italy for criminal connections.<
>

They were programmed and something set them off. Each individual is programmed
by various different means. Some absorb the information faster and process it
differently.
Nevertheless, it is in everyone differently. It manafests itself differently in
each person.
For more info on this, research publications about Tavistock or social
engineering.

>
> Of course people in high school are going to be picked on, cliques are GOING
> to be formed, always have, always will be.. the way people deal with the
> taunting, with the exclusion, that is what we should concern ourselves with,
> not breaking cliques.. Yes, the children should be taught to treat each other
> well, give them the respect every living creature should get..  "These kids
> were obviously on drugs"-- sure, they could have been on drugs, prolly PCP,
> but still, not everyone who commits a heinous act is gonna be a druggie..
> Mafia? Most kids in highschool don't know jack about the Mafia. Someone
> mentions the word, and all they think of is a band of people who have lots of
> money who kill people. 99% of them wouldn't have the patience to sit through
> the Godfather!
>

Sounds like you can see what is really going on. The 'Mafia' you refer to is
really a
group of the richest people and families on Earth who have been trying since
Babylon
to establish a one world government. They refer us to as 'cattle' or 'useless
bottom eaters'.
They want to reduce the population to about 500 million. Lots of fun stuff, huh? I
think
this list has a book guide for education.

>
> >  A lot of evil is coming out of Colorado; from Ted Bundy, the guy that shot
> Reagan, these kids, the little Jon Benet Ramsey.the horrible movie that
> got the Oscar, about the butchers which was said to be a comedy that got an
> academy award.<
>
> 'Let's go to Colorado and destroy the evil! Colorado is terrible, let's put
> the blame there..'
>

Colorado is part of the heartland. If it happens there, people assume it will in
their
city.  Theoretically yes, plausible no. Just stay away from the hype they blast on
T.V.

>
> I don't know. This just sickens me, that the student-shooters would have that
> great, apparently uncontrollable, urge to go and kill.. It's true that the
> blame shouldn't be put on music, or movies, or parents, or just slapped on
> society, or the government.. Or the schools? (I heard the old purpose of
> schools was to make productive, law-abiding citizens)..
> I've been raised in a violent household. I've made it my choice to turn from
> those practices which I have seen over the past 16 years. My brother, on the
> other hand, while he won't come out and denounce the violence, I know that he
> is very inclined to go out and use abusive language and be physically
> violent. But I'm just a high school student, I still don't really know
> anything, and I should keep my nose in my academics..
>
> -Suzy
>

Your education is part of their plan. Take your nose out of their crap and read
the
books that will give you the big picture. But be prepared to be called something
like a 'conspiracy nut'. Read the books and decide the truth for yourself. If you
stay on this list, get tough skin. People tend not to agree with everything said.
Which
is good. Keeps you thinking.

 Kevin

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[CTRL] our road to communism

1999-04-22 Thread Kevin




  The Christian ALERT Network (TCAN) Inc.
 POB 11746, Killeen, TX 76547-1746

  

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   A54: Communist Goals in U. S. Public Education System

 We Have A Very Serious And Urgent Problem In Our Country And We Need YOUR
Help

  

 This Chapter Last Updated: 12 August 1998



 BACKGROUND

 by

 Rev. "Curt" Tomlin
   Major USA Ret
President TCAN Inc.

This document is quite long and will get longer as it is updated. I
  strongly suggest that you copy it to a floppy disk, as a text file, and
open it for reading off line in you word processor. I also suggest that you
   retain the copy for future use and reference.

Since January 1993, I have been totally immersed in monitoring the
restructuring of our public education system here in America. But for the
most part I have been monitoring that restructuring from a perspective
quite different than most other Americans who are also concerned about the
restructuring.

While I am very interested in and concerned about, the "academic" aspects
of the restructuring such as reading, writing and arithmetic, I am more
concerned about the restructuring from an "intelligence" perspective, like
"military intelligence" for example. Let me explain it this way. For better
than 24 years beginning as far back as the early1950's I was involved in
designing and installing electronic (ADP/EDP) information collection and
processing systems for the several military departments, the Air Force,
Navy, Army, the JCS and the DoD including President John F. Kennedy's
Battle Staff (BST7).

In addition to the very intensive technical training conducted by IBM on
the dada processing equipment (ADP/EDP) of that time, a select few of us
were also subjected to some very intensive training, within the Department
of Defense. That special training was related to the "kind of information"
that we would be designing and installing processing systems for. This
additional, highly classified and technical, training addressed the
imbedded "philosophical and psychological doctrine" of communism and it's
threat to our democratic way of life.

During the course of the past few years, beginning in January 1993, while
putting all the many pieces (programs) of the education restructuring
puzzle in their proper place as they relate to each other, I realized that
the restructuring of our public education system was proceeding in a very
different direction than that which most people were being led to believe.
Misleading the masses was, and still is, easy to do since there are so many
different but yet related programs involved. The average citizen is
untrained in the arts and skills of information collection, processing and
analysis and thus has absolutely no idea of what is actually taking place
within the restructuring and where the restructuring is actually leading
to. .

In an attempt to very briefly and generally explain "where" the
restructuring of our public school system is really leading to, I invite
your attention to several statements found in one of the Department of
Defense (DOD) text books (which I still have) that was used in the special
training (noted above) that I received relative to the "kind of
information" we were designing and installing ADP/EDP systems to collect
and process. The following quotes are taken from "The Two Ways of Life, The
Communist Challenge to Democracy" (DoD DEN-9) (DA Pam 360-510) (NAVPERS
15204) (AFP 190-1-1)

Quote # 1, "DoD Introduction, page 3, par 3: "In the totalitarian way of
life, there are no "inalienable rights" of man which the state is not
allowed to touch. Totalitarianism wants all of man, his body and soul, and
there is no human activity - political, economic, social, religious, or
educational - that is allowed to escape government control. In addition to
not recognizing any limits to its goals, it recognizes no limits to the
means it is prepared to use to attain them: Propaganda, imprisonment,
terror, slave labor, brainwashing, and even the destruction of entire
nations (genocide)."

Quote # 2, page 69, par 4: "The totalitarian society seeks to destroy
whatever individuality exists in man by transforming him into an
insignificant atom of the mass. Totalitarianism is therefore hostile to
individuals pursuing their own private and personal goals. It reduces man
to a member of one vast whole - the "Nordic master race" under Nazism, the
"glorious proletariat under communism. Whereas democratic civilization
seeks progress through individuality, totalitarianism seeks to accomplish
its ends through conformity."

Quote # 3

[CTRL] another conflict on the number dead

1999-04-25 Thread Kevin




  
 SIGHTINGS
  


  NATO Says Only One F-117 Down,
  No Casualties To Date -
   Greek Paper Says 81 NATO Dead
   From: www.serbia-info
  4-24-99


   Athens - A Greek newspaper said on Wednesday that NATO and
   the United States have lost 81 soldiers in the 28 days of
   their aggression on Yugoslavia.

   In an exclusive story, the Vradyni newspaper said that they
   were primarily pilots of planes and crews of helicopters
   downed by Yugoslav anti-aircraft defense systems.

   According to Vradyni, this number does not include losses
   among foreign mercenaries - warriors of Allah, recruited for
   the ethnic Albanian terrorist Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) in
   Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and Yemen by the authors of the new
   world order.

   The paper said that the people in the west are deliberately
   being kept in the dark about the allied losses in NATO's
   operations in Yugoslavia, in order to avoid a panic and
   undesirable strong reactions and condemnation in the
   participating states.

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[CTRL] David Icke interview

1999-04-25 Thread Kevin

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 David Icke was on Sightings Thursday for 2 hours and Saturday for the
last hour.
 http://www.broadcast.com/shows/endoftheline/99archives.stm

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[CTRL] A reality check for everyone

1999-04-26 Thread Kevin




The End of the Line

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Insect Transmission of HIV
  [Image]

 Anyone who tells you categorically that AIDS is not contracted by
 saliva is not telling you the truth. AIDS may, in fact, be
 transmissible by saliva, tears, bodily fluids, and mosquito
 bites.

  [Image]   --Dr. William Haseltine, Chief of the Division of
Retrovirology, Harvard University

Question: Reports indicate that as many as 40% of the AIDS-infected
children in parts of Africa have AIDS-free mothers; how did they become
infected?

Answer: Many of them became infected by insect bite.

Every major plague in history has been tied to some type of environmental
factor. Cholera and typhoid are spread through contaminated water.
Tuberculosis is commonly spread through fomites (towels, dishes, etc.) and
aerosol water droplets spewed into the air through coughing and sneezing.
One sneeze, for example, can expel 50,000 micro-droplets of water at up to
'00 miles per hour traveling many feet away from the person who sneezes.
Each one of these droplets is capable of carrying the disease. Smallpox was
transmitted by fomites and food. With every other epidemic in history --
plague, yellow fever, typhus, malaria, denge fever, etc. -- insects were
the vector of transmission.

A study in Zaire determined that children with malaria were several times
more likely to test positive for AIDS. The only way to get malaria is
through mosquito bites. The Pasteur Institute performed a study in '989
which showed that 30% of the mosquitoes in tested in Africa were infected
with HIV. Lab studies in the U.S. have shown that mosquitoes which are
allowed to feed on HIV-infected blood still retain active viruses in the
blood cells they have consumed for up to 8 days. Many types of mosquitoes
have a flying range of about 40 miles.

There are two main methods that the virus can be transmitted by insect
bite: mechanical and biological. Blood products that remain on the biting
mouth parts of the insect can be introduced into a new host simply through
the mechanical act of biting through the victim¹s skin. The virus can also
reside comfortably in the saliva and digestive fluid of the insect and can
be infused into subsequent victims through the mouth/feeding tube during
the biting/feeding process at any time.

At this point in time, over 80 different species of virus are known to be
transmitted to humans by mosquitoes and other blood-sucking insects such as
fleas, ticks, head lice, biting flies, etc.

Dr. Jean Claude Chermann of the Pasteur Institute, in Paris, reported he
has located the DNA of the AIDS virus in field specimens of virtually every
African insect species that bites humans. He further determined that 30% of
the insects tested contained the AIDS virus itself. This is particularly
significant because in most insect-borne diseases only 3% of the insects
are routinely found to be infected. This means that the AIDS virus is ten
times more concentrated in these insects than usually considered necessary
for insect transmission of a disease.

AIDS infectivity research pioneer Dr. William T. O'Connor (Chapter 7, AIDS
Exposed ) made the following statement on insect transmission of HIV among
humans:

 If 'they' knew that insects could spread HIV, 'they' would
 certainly protect themselves, too, wouldnt 'they'? And 'they
 wouldn't hide that information, would 'they'!? Well, here's the
 'they:' You mentioned the Pasteur Institute, it wasn't so much
 the Pasteur Institute, it was Dr. Jean-Claude Chermann who went
 to Africa and did the studies and found that HIV was in every
 insect that had contact with human blood. The...question is: can
 that (HIV) come out of their genome? Is it first spread through
 to the male line and is it found in the non-bloodsucking
 mosquitoes...the male mosquitoes? Guess what? It was in the male
 population of mosquitoes.

 The big question is, can active, infective viral particles get
 out of that (male) mosquito? When Jean-Claude Chermann was asked
 by me, in person, when I met him in Marseilles and toured his
 facility, he said he had received death threats. And he elected
 to stop studying it.

 The scientific question as to whether insects can carry HIV is
 (officially) unanswered. And it is unanswered because the leading
 virologist in the world (on the subject) cared more about his
 family and himself. I don't blame him! If somebody told me, 'You
 keep up that line of research and we will kill you,' I'd stop,
 too.

 In Africa, in '88, no one was infected, not even the prostitutes.
 Now, in Central Africa, you can see up to 60% of given
 populations infected. I'm saying that in a decade, you can't rely
 on just sex (transmission) to do that. And it isn't hard to
 catch! That is wha

[CTRL] test

1999-02-09 Thread Kevin

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 test

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Re: [CTRL] Committe of 300

1999-05-30 Thread Kevin

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 research?  He wrote that information in one of his damn books. You need to
seriously do better than that.

 Kevin

nurev wrote:

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>
> Lloyd Miller wrote:
> >
> >  -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > Here is the sole source of the "Committee of 300" nonsense put out by "Dr."
> > John Coleman:
> >
> > Walther Rathenau, financial adviser to the Kaiser and agent of the
> > Rothschild, in the Wienar Press, December 24, 1921, said: "Only 300 men,
> > each of whom knows all the others, govern the fate of Europe. They select
> > their successors from their own entourage.'" On June 24, 1922 he was
> > assassinated by the Nazis.
> >
> > It is a great source of disappointment to me that more and more conspiracy
> > theorist treat the "Committee of 300" concept on a par with the well
> > documented Trilateral Commission, CFR, and Bilderbergers!
> >
> > Anyone crediting "Dr." John Coleman should first consult James Warner of
> > Sons of Liberty, where Coleman was once employed:  James K. Warner, Sons of
> > Liberty, PO Box 449, Arabi, LA  70032.
> >
> > Mr. Warner has written an open letter describing his very negative opinions
> > concerning "Dr." John Coleman.
> >
> > ***
>
> Kudos to Lloyd Miller, who knows the difference between conspiratorial
> politics, and wild eyed conspiracy theories.
>
> Good job,
>
> Joshua2
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[CTRL] Jeb Bush

1999-03-15 Thread Kevin

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 Can someone please post more info on Jeb? I'd like to know more about
my wonderful governor.

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Re: [CTRL] Jeb Bush

1999-03-16 Thread Kevin

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Jim wrote:

>Be careful. I'd watch him closely. If Bush family history
> repeats itself he will loot Florida's treasury and taxpayers.
>
>Jim in Texas
>

 Well, he's already started. Enter his 'school voucher' program. It will give
parents the option of taking kids out of public school and putting them into
private school. Leaving you know who to pay for it. I caught part of his state of
the state address. He wants to mandate all students to have a C average or else.
He also said "I want to see Florida school children not just compete in academic
test scores, but be number 1 in the nation."

  Kevin

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[CTRL] COMMITTEE OF 300

1999-03-21 Thread Kevin

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 A copy of Dr. Coleman's book can be found at
http//www.biblebelievers.org.au/300a.htm

 Note - "The Roundtable" is an organization that was set up by MI6 to
loot South Africa of their diamonds and gold (if I remember correctly) .
Now the are set up in key education, banking, and financial institutions
to help set up the one world government. They are 1 of 40 main branches
of The Committee of 300.. According to Dr. Coleman, it would take an
insurance company a year to find the names of The Roundtable.  I sent an
email to the roundtable web page. No response. Hmmm

 Kevin

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[CTRL] Kosovo according to Sherman S.

1999-03-27 Thread Kevin

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 Well, good ol' Sherman Skolnick was on for the last hour of Sightings
last night. Turns out not one single person knows what is really going
on. It's about . well, listen to the archive for yourself.

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Re: [CTRL] Kosovo according to Sherman S.

1999-03-28 Thread Kevin

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 http://www.broadcast.com/shows/endoftheline/99archives.stm  Forward to the last
hour. His name is not listed for obvious reasons...

Jim Yester wrote:

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> >
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> >  last night. Turns out not one single person knows what is really going
> >  on. It's about . well, listen to the archive for yourself.
> >
> >  DECLARA
> Could you post the URL
>
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Re: [CTRL] FOLLOW UP ON SEATTLE, PROPOSAL FOR STRATEGY

1999-12-23 Thread Kevin

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 This mother earth gai crap is brought to us by international bankers. Read goals
2000.

 Kevin

Ole Fjord Larsen wrote:

>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> To save the planet, the strong momentum of the great
> historic victory in Seattle is released in fullfilling
> of a series of major objectives based on the decisive
> continuation and broadening of the coalition between
> workers, farmers and NGOs:
>
> 1. ROLL BACK THE CORPORATIONS' OVER-NATIONAL
> INSTRUMENTS FOR OPPRESSION (WTO, WB, IMF, UN SECURITY
> COUNCIL, NAFTA, EU, APEC, ETC.)
>
> The disclosure in Seattle of the crimes of these
> organisations continues by chasing the planners of the
> crimes against humanity and nature wherever they meet.
>
> To prevent the corporate mass media monopoly from
> belittling the demonstrations, we should beforehand
> categorize them as big or small demonstrations.
> And to make sure that the big demonstrations really
> get big, they should be organized many months ahead,
> as was the case in Seattle.
>
> Possibly a vote on the Internet should decide which
> events should be defined as small and which big, so
> that the backing of the respective events can be
> foreseen.
>
> After Seattle we may not even have to make threats in
> order to get the attention of the media, only a hint
> that we might have to provoke the police to become
> violent, if the media coverage is inadequate.
> You can never tell.
>
> Planned flexibility should be implied to cope with the
> expected upgradation of the precautionary measures
> from the other side.
>
> The principles of non-violent direct action as educated
> so systematically and practiced so bravely in Seattle,
> http://www.reclaiming.org/starhawk/wto.html
> should be the fundamental tactics in all cases.
>
> The preparatory organizing should include raise of
> funds for support of arrested protesters and victims
> of police brutality.
>
> 2. CREMATION OF THE VERY MOST CRIMINAL CORPORATIONS
>
> The historic Cremation Monsanto campaign
> http://www.igc.org/igc/en/hg/karnataka.html
> is carried through and extended to others on the
> Top 10 List of excessively criminal organisations.
>
> Just a few successful cremations will have a profound
> preventive effect on other corporations, cf.
> http://www.globalexchange.org/economy/corporations/
>
> At the same time as we break down the present evil
> system, we build up the new  A L T E R N A T I V E :
>
> 3. FUNDAMENTALLY NEW ECONOMIC SYSTEM
>
> The present economy based on destruction of the natural
> resources is replaced by the economic system that
> builds up the natural resources:
>
> Global Resource Bank, belonging to all mankind,
> http://www.grb.net
> owns the natural resources outside national jurisdiction,
> i.e. primarily in the oceans.
>
> The electronic global GRB credit based on and measuring
> the value of these natural resources replaces the
> present destructive currencies based on the gross
> national product including all kinds of activities such as
> over-consumption, polution, transportation, destruction of
> nature, wars, etc.
>
> Furthermore, the mantenance fee paid to the bank on
> commercial accounts depend on the ecological footprints
> of the respective enterprises,
> http://www.grb.net
>
> 4. THE UNITED PEOPLES' TAKE OVER OF THE CORPORATIONS
>
> To the extent the above measures may not fullfill their
> objectives, the world parliament of the united peoples
> takes over the ownership of rest of the corporations,
> besides dealing with all less directly economic global
> problems, see
> http://www.unitedpeoples.net
>
> Ole Fjord Larsen,
> member of United Peoples
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[CTRL] Seattle: ADM hires shills?

1999-12-02 Thread Kevin

I got this off one of the boards.


Name: Tom J. Kennedy
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Subject: Re: The Battle in Seattle

Website: www.cyberclass.net  [Main List]

 Greetings:

 I am sharing this information which I just received from AFPN.
 It support the new posting at Jeff's website
 re: "provocatuers" at the WTO in Seattle

 Working with you for "peace and plenty" by 2020
 I AM
 Tom J. Kennedy
 www.cyberclass.net
 ***
 All is not as it seems! A letter from Seattle

 This is a fax (another one) that I sent to the Mayor of Seattle.

 Top 10 Reasons to Oppose the World Trade Organization

 Via APFNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb77532

 Subject: Fwd: Fw: a letter from Seattle
 Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 10:31:10 PST
 From: "cliff kadmon"
 To Whom It May Concern:

 I am a young man living in the Seattle area. I am not going
 to reveal my name, for reasons that will be obvious.

 Several weeks ago I was approached by the representative of a
 major company. I was offered a lucrative, temporary job as a
 demonstrator as part of a 'media event' that the company rep
 said she was involved in planning. I was offered $35 an hour,
 plus bonuses and meals, for a job that would last a week or so.
 Being a rather poor college student, I jumped at the offer. I
 was assured it was all legal. I signed a strict non-disclosure
 agreement. And I was given a few days paid training.

 All of this was before I had heard about the upcoming World
 Trade Organization meeting. In fact, I didn't really know what
 the WTO was.

 In the past few days I have carried protest signs and chanted
 slogans for various causes - whales, farmers, human rights,
 rainforests; I have blocked traffic, been shoved, kicked,
 tear-gassed, arrested (bail promptly paid), worn a panda bear
 costume, and been on tv; I've been well-fed on steaks and shrimp
 and pizza; had a hell of a lot of fun; made some good cash money
 and recieved some merchandise bonuses like vitamins and Pepsi
 stuff; - and become totally disillusioned with our political
 system.

 The company that hired me is Archer Daniels Midland, but Pepsi
 was somehow involved, too (and no doubt some others).

 The demonstrations this past week in Seattle are contrived and
 manufactured. I'm sure that many of the people out there are
 sincerely trying to further their cause, but many more are just
 nuts getting caught up in the moment, and some are paid agitators
 (like me and about another 100 or so that I know of). I'm not out
 there anymore, though, I took my cash last night and left, went
 back to school.

 Here's the thing: Have you noticed how the aims of many of the
 protestors for the most part actually go along with the aims of
 the WTO and the multi-national corporations? The 'event' is being
 portrayed as a demonstration against capitalism, but actually is
 about stricter environment and labor controls, and stricter
 international standards in many areas. This is the agenda of the
 WTO and the New World Order. It is all part of the one-world
 government thing. It is all about more CONTROL over people. When
 I saw this, I walked away.

 All of this should be obvious to thoughtful people, but the media
 are drooling all over each other covering this story as if it were
 some kind of spontaneous happening, instead of the staged drama it
 really is. People think the New World Order is just something some
 crazy person on the internet thought up, but I first heard it from
 the mouth of President George Bush years ago. The New World Order
 is alive and growing.

 I just wanted to put the word out on this to counter the prevailing
 spin. All is not as it seems!

 Just Some Guy - a NWO shill
 
 From: Les Lemke
 This is a fax (another one) that I sent to the Mayor of Seattle.

 This letter is going to as many Congressman as I can send it
 to. What happened and CONTINUES TO HAPPEN in Seattle is
 totally UNacceptable.

 If you saw what I saw and wish to alter this letter and send it as
 your own letter to that scumbag in Seattle, or to your own Congressmen,
 go for it. What I say below I did in fact see via various media
 sources. This is nothing but NAZI GESTAPO ACTION
 AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY!
 
 December 2, 1999

 Lester Lemke
 P.O. Box 1524
 Coos Bay, Oregon 97420-0332

 Mayor Paul Schell of
 Seattle Washington
 600 Fourth Avenue
 Seattle WA 98104
 Tel/206-684-4000
 Fax/206-684-5360

 Mr. Paul Schell - or should I call you Comrad Schell?

 Over the last few days and nights I have witnessed in Seattle
 open and blatant abuse of power as well as complete and utter
 brutality by law enforcement against citizens of this country
 who have been protesti

[CTRL] un disarming us since 61

1999-10-25 Thread Kevin

 Please forward to everyone


  FREEDOM FROM WAR

THE UNITED STATES PROGRAM FOR GENERAL AND COMPLETE DISARMAMENT IN A
   PEACEFUL WORLD

DEPARTMENT OF STATE

DEPARTMENT OF STATE PUBLICATION 7277

Disarmament Series 5

Released September 1961

Office of Public Services

BUREAU OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS

INTRODUCTION

The revolutionary development of modern weapons within a world divided by
serious ideological differences has produced a crisis in human history. In
order to overcome the danger of nuclear war now confronting mankind, the
United States has introduced at the Sixteenth General Assembly of the
United Nations a Program for General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful
World.

This new program provides for the progressive reduction of the war-making
capabilities of nations and the simultaneous strengthening of international
institutions to settle disputes and maintain the peace. It sets forth a
series of comprehensive measures which can and should be taken in order to
bring about a world in which there will be freedom from war and security
for all states. It is based on three principles deemed essential to the
achievement of practical progress in the disarmament field:

First, there must be immediate disarmament action:

A strenuous and uninterrupted effort must be made toward the goal of
general and complete disarmament; at the same time, it is important that
specific measures be put into effect as soon as possible.

Second, all disarmament obligations must be subject to effective
international controls:

The control organization must have the manpower, facilities, and
effectiveness to assure that limitations or reductions take place as
agreed. It must also be able to certify to all states that retained forces
and armaments do not exceed those permitted at any stage of the disarmament
process.

Third, adequate peace-keeping machinery must be established:

There is an inseparable relationship between the scaling down of national
armaments on the one hand and the building up of international
peace-keeping machinery and institutions on the other. Nations are unlikely
to shed their means of self-protection in the absence of alternative ways
to safeguard their legitimate interests. This can only be achieved through
the progressive strengthening of international institutions under the
United Nations and by creating a United Nations Peace Force to enforce the
peace as the disarmament process proceeds.
---
There follows a summary of the principal provisions of the United States
Program for General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful World. The full
text of the program is contained in an appendix to this pamphlet.

  

  FREEDOM FROM WAR

THE UNITED STATES PROGRAM FOR GENERAL AND COMPLETE DISARMAMENT IN A
   PEACEFUL WORLD

SUMMARY

DISARMAMENT GOAL AND OBJECTIVES

The over-all goal of the United States is a free, secure, and peaceful
world of independent states adhering to common standards of justice and
international conduct and subjecting the use of force to the rule of law; a
world which has achieved general and complete disarmament under effective
international control; and a world in which adjustment to change takes
place in accordance with the principles of the United Nations.

In order to make possible the achievement of that goal, the program sets
forth the following specific objectives toward which nations should direct
their efforts:

The disbanding of all national armed forces and the prohibition of their
reestablishment in any form whatsoever other than those required to
preserve internal order and for contributions to a United Nations Peace
Force;

The elimination from national arsenals of all armaments, including all
weapons of mass destruction and the means for their delivery, other than
those required for a United Nations Peace Force and for maintaining
internal order;

The institution of effective means for the enforcement of international
agreements, and for the maintenance of peace in accordance with the
principles of the United Nations;

The establishment and effective operation of an International Disarmament
Organization within the framework of the United Nations to insure
compliance at all times with all disarmament obligations.

TASK OF NEGOTIATING STATES

The negotiating states are called upon to develop the program into a
detailed plan for general and complete disarmament and to continue their
efforts without interruption until the whole program has been achieved. To
this end, they are to seek the widest possible area of agreement at the
earliest possible date. At the same time, and without prejudice to progress
on the disarmament program, they are to seek agreement on those immediate
measures that would contribute to the common security of nations and

Re: [CTRL] Pointing a finger now a 'terrorist threat'

1999-03-08 Thread Kevin Elliott

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At 10:45 -0600 on 3/8/99, Teo One Thousand wrote:
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><< OOPS, NEVER MIND -- Terry Williams was a passenger in a car that
> nearly collided with another car in Oakland, Ca.   Williams leaned out
> of the car with his arms extended and his hands clasped as though he
> were holding a gun and yelled "bang."  The driver of the second car
> was a Secret Service agent who responded by pulling a real gun and
> yelling "police."  Williams sped off but the agent caught up and arrested
> him on a charge of making a  terrorist threat. (AP)
> --took all the fun out of it >>
>
>Correct me if I am wrong but the Secret Service have no power to arrest, do
>they?
>Teo1000

Yes, they do- the Secret Service's original mandate was as a Law
Enforcement body under the Treasury Department fight counterfieting a task
they still carry out.  As such they have to power to arrest.

Kevin "The Cubbie" Elliott <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
___
"As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both
instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged.
And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the
air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness."
-- Justice William O. Douglas

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