Re: Partitioning schemes for partman-auto

2004-03-02 Thread Falk Hueffner
Anton Zinoviev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On  1.III.2004 at 20:10 Falk Hueffner wrote:
> > 
> > Swap nowadays only serve to spill pages that haven't been accessed for
> > hours, or to slow down the system enough so you can kill processes
> > gone haywire; therefore, it is not performance critical and a swap
> > file will do just fine and is more flexible WRT resizing.
> 
> I can remember the installer of Red Hat saying that the swap must be
> always at least as much as the available RAM even if there is enough
> RAM.  Without swap the performance of the system would be degraded.
> Do you know if this is true?

I dimly recall there used to be a bug in older kernel releases to this
effect. I don't believe it is relevant any more. If it was, I'd
certainly consider it a kernel bug.

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Re: Partitioning schemes for partman-auto

2004-03-01 Thread Falk Hueffner
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Falk Hueffner wrote:
> > This is the only partitioning scheme which in my opinion fits for
> > users who might go with whatever the default is:
> > 
> > /   Whole harddisk
> > swapnone, but 512M swap file (independent of memory)
> 
> I also wouldn't mind having this scheme available, although I think
> the current "simple" scheme (/, /home, /swap) is also useful.

Fine as long as there is some help text which makes the choice
trivially obvious. That seems hard.

> > Swap nowadays only serve to spill pages that haven't been accessed
> > for hours, or to slow down the system enough so you can kill
> > processes gone haywire; therefore, it is not performance critical
> > and a swap file will do just fine and is more flexible WRT
> > resizing.
>
> Not true for many of our target architectures and systems.

Those are used by people who do this stuff manually anyway.

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Re: Partitioning schemes for partman-auto

2004-03-01 Thread Falk Hueffner
Anton Zinoviev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The partitioning schemes of partman-auto currently are only
> examples.  So if you have some idea for usefull partitioning just
> tell it.  I have to know what partitions your scheme has and an
> example size of each partition as well as the minimal and the
> maximal usefull size.  For example:

This is the only partitioning scheme which in my opinion fits for
users who might go with whatever the default is:

/   Whole harddisk
swapnone, but 512M swap file (independent of memory)

Rationale: I don't see any noticeable benefit for Jane User in having
lots of small partitions; and as has been pointed out it always either
wastes space or is prone to overruns.

Swap nowadays only serve to spill pages that haven't been accessed for
hours, or to slow down the system enough so you can kill processes
gone haywire; therefore, it is not performance critical and a swap
file will do just fine and is more flexible WRT resizing.

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Re: [Q] make demo fails

2004-01-08 Thread Falk Hueffner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erich Waelde) writes:

>   else depmod -q -a -b ./tmp/demo/tree/ 2.4.22-1-386; fi ; 
> ==> depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented
> 
> make[1]: *** [demo-tree-stamp] Error 1
> make: *** [demo] Error 2
> 
> What is the build system trying to tell me?
> 
> I'm running on kernel 2.6-test9-1 and required tools, is that a
> problem?

Yes, that is most likely the cause.

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Re: d-i on Alpha: failed installation

2004-01-06 Thread Falk Hueffner
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > main-menu(252): unaligned trap at 000120002844: 00012001d574 29 2
> 
> Hmm, I suppose the best way to find these might be to look at the build
> logs...

or use addr2line1(1) if you have an unstripped binary

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Re: /etc/mailname

2003-12-19 Thread Falk Hueffner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> A few days ago I installed a Debian system (V3.0r1).
> When emacs is invoked it says "No /etc/mailname. Reverting to default..."
> and waits for 3 seconds. Of course this is very undesirable.
> 
> Something is broken.

Yes, and it's emacs. Waiting 3 seconds is just silly.

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Re: status of pppoe support in d-i ?

2003-12-16 Thread Falk Hueffner
"Marco d'Itri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >I tried to rebuild d-i with ppp-udeb.deb in the local-udeb but it 
> >do not build anymore:
> >
> >461 symbols, 375 unresolved
> >Traceback (most recent call last):
> >  File "/usr/bin/mklibs", line 469, in ?
> >raise "No library provides non-weak " + symbol
> >No library provides non-weak devnam
> devnam is a global variable defined in pppd/options.c, so I don't
> understand why mklibs is complaining.

Please post the relevant line of the output of readelf -s -W on the
file containing the symol.

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Re: Language choser is also keyboard choser ??

2003-12-12 Thread Falk Hueffner
Daniele Nicolodi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I dont' like also the way to select language, is not clear. I like more
> a solution like:
> 
>   Please chose your languge:
> 
>  DE - (I don't know german)
>  EN - Select that entry to procede in English
>  ES - (I don't know espagnol also)
>  IT - Seleziona questa voce del menu per procedere in italiano
> 
> Whe can order coutry codes alfabetically so, i think, found the right
> one is more easy.

I don't like these lengthy selection texts; they don't really add any
information, but make it harder to skim. What's wrong with simply:

Deutsch
English
Espagnol
Italiano
?

Much clearer, and you don't even have to know your country code.

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Re: [Fwd: Alpha Debian Netinst]

2003-11-17 Thread Falk Hueffner

> From: Andrew Forgue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Well, I'm trying the "sarge-alpha-netinst.iso" from testing (both
> daily and non-daily) on an alpha PWS 500au with 128mb ram using
> aboot/SRM and so far am unsuccessful.  It dies while trying to mount
> /dev/rd/0.  If I tell it to use /dev/ram0 as a root, it says it
> can't find init.  If I pass init=/linurc to the kernel, it still
> says no init found.

Try root=/dev/ram initrd=boot/root.bin ramdisk_size=16384 devfs=mount,dall

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Re: Alpha status

2003-11-12 Thread Falk Hueffner
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Also busybox got miscompiled (tr support missing) due to
> linux-kernel-header bugs (fixed?).

Fixed in glibc (#212101), busybox probably needs recompilation,
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Bug#219928: debian-installer: build failures on sparc

2003-11-11 Thread Falk Hueffner
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > > Then how do you know it is a bug in mklibs and it is not actually a
> > > missing symbol?
> > 
> > Which was the real reason it failed in every testcase I got my hand on
> > so far. All of those suposedly mklibs weak symbols bugs disapeared
> > when recompiling the faulty binaries against the proper versions of
> > libraries so far.
> 
> If I read between the lines right, this time it was breakage in brltty
> on sparc, and I've removed it from the pkg-lists for sparc now.

Does that mean we can close the bug?

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Bug#219928: debian-installer: build failures on sparc

2003-11-11 Thread Falk Hueffner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geert Stappers) writes:

> On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 10:54:31AM +0100, Falk Hueffner wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geert Stappers) writes:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 10:02:44AM +0100, Falk Hueffner wrote:
> | | | > I cannot find this information there, either.
> > > | Can I get more information on why this is a bug in mklibs?
> > > See bug 211092 ( http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=211092 )
> > > 
> > > | Does some library actually provide timeout_yet?
> > > | If so, can I please see readelf -s -W output of it?
> > > 
> > > I don't care about a single accidentically missing symbol.
> > 
> > I don't understand. Are you saying if a symbol is missing, mklibs
> > should ignore that and create a binary that cannot be executed?
> 
> I'm only saying that it is a mklibs bug.
> 
> Where the timeout_yet or whatever noweak symbol is, is not
> important(to me).

Then how do you know it is a bug in mklibs and it is not actually a
missing symbol?

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Bug#219928: debian-installer: build failures on sparc

2003-11-11 Thread Falk Hueffner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geert Stappers) writes:

> On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 10:02:44AM +0100, Falk Hueffner wrote:
> | Can I get more information on why this is a bug in mklibs?
> See bug 211092 ( http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=211092 )
> 
> | Does some library actually provide timeout_yet?
> | If so, can I please see readelf -s -W output of it?
> 
> I don't care about a single accidentically missing symbol.

I don't understand. Are you saying if a symbol is missing, mklibs
should ignore that and create a binary that cannot be executed?

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Bug#219928: debian-installer: build failures on sparc

2003-11-11 Thread Falk Hueffner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geert Stappers) writes:

> On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 12:02:34AM +0100, Falk Hueffner wrote:
> > Can I get more information on why this is a bug in mklibs? Does some
> > library actually provide timeout_yet? If so, can I please see
> > readelf -s -W output of it?
> 
> See bug 211092 ( http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=211092 )
> It was original titled 'building debian-installer on sparc fails'

I cannot find this information there, either.

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Bug#219928: debian-installer: build failures on sparc

2003-11-10 Thread Falk Hueffner
Can I get more information on why this is a bug in mklibs? Does some
library actually provide timeout_yet? If so, can I please see
readelf -s -W output of it?

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Bug#218632: srm_env module required by partitioner on Alpha

2003-11-02 Thread Falk Hueffner
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 01:54:02PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > Thorsten Sauter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > | alpha.sh from partitioner relies on the srm_env module. Please add it
> > > | to some core modules udeb.
> 
> > > no idea about alpha machines, but what about the comment line in
> > > alpa.sh?
> 
> > > > # Load srm_env.o if we can; this should fail on ARC-based systems.
> > > > (modprobe srm_env || true) 2> /dev/null
> 
> > Thats why the possibly failure to load the module is hidden. All non
> > srm based systems should fail to load this and the script shouldn't
> > stop.
> 
> > This part should actually be moved into arch-detect I think.
> 
> Is it needed for anything else?

You mean srm_env? Yes, it's used to get the system language setting by
srm-reader.

> Can partitioner depend on arch-detect being run first?  Can you
> depend on the user not having manually unloaded the module from the
> second console after arch-detect runs ;P, or will arch-detect be
> able to pass this information to partitioner in some other way?

I have no clue. It would be sensible if this information would be
generally available somewhere. We could also detect it by grepping for
"system serial number.*MILO" in /proc/cpuinfo, though.

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Bug#218632: srm_env module required by partitioner on Alpha

2003-11-02 Thread Falk Hueffner
Thorsten Sauter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> | alpha.sh from partitioner relies on the srm_env module. Please add it
> | to some core modules udeb.
> 
> no idea about alpha machines, but what about the comment line in
> alpa.sh?
> 
> > # Load srm_env.o if we can; this should fail on ARC-based systems.
> > (modprobe srm_env || true) 2> /dev/null

Sorry, I don't understand what your question is...

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Bug#218632: srm_env module required by partitioner on Alpha

2003-11-02 Thread Falk Hueffner
Package: linux-kernel-di
Severity: normal

Hi,

alpha.sh from partitioner relies on the srm_env module. Please add it
to some core modules udeb.

Falk


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Re: Ultimate bug: bringing sanity to linux

2003-10-31 Thread Falk Hueffner
Dominic-Luc Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Those CD images are useless to a newby without the bootup/install
> diskettes for people who cannot go the network install route.

Could you elaborate on that point? Most newbies will probably have PCs
bought after 1995, which can boot from CDs.

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Bug#215448: di_mem_chunk_alloc() should return sizeof(long) or better alignment

2003-10-12 Thread Falk Hueffner
Richard Hirst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 11:48:07PM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote:
> > Just use long mem[] there, we can assume a C99 compiler, and it will
> > ensure alignment (at least for all Linux platforms).
> 
> Really?  I thought the code later referenced something like
> 
>   &foo->mem[bar]
> 
> which will surely break if you just s/char/long/

Dunno, might need to add casts there. I would've thought it only casts
the value to void*.

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Bug#215448: di_mem_chunk_alloc() should return sizeof(long) or better alignment

2003-10-12 Thread Falk Hueffner
First, IMHO we should drop this stuff and just use malloc. I don't see
any point in increasing code size and introducing new bugs thereby.

Anyway:

> struct di_mem_area
> {
>   di_mem_area *next;   /**< the next mem area */
>   di_mem_area *prev;   /**< the previous mem area */
>   di_ksize_t index;/**< the current index into the "mem" array */
>   di_ksize_t free; /**< the number of free bytes in this mem area */
>   di_ksize_t allocated;/**< the number of atoms allocated from this area */
>   char mem[MEM_AREA_SIZE]; /**< the mem array from which atoms get allocated
> *   the actual size of this array is determined by
> *   the mem chunk "area_size". ANSI says that it
> *   must be declared to be the maximum size it
> *   can possibly be (even though the actual size
> *   may be less).
> */
> };
> 
> 
> I also wonder about MEM_AREA_SIZE being hardwired at 4, although I
> didn't dig in to the code far enough to see if it should be 8 on 64
> bit platforms.

Just use long mem[] there, we can assume a C99 compiler, and it will
ensure alignment (at least for all Linux platforms).

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Bug#178511: mklibs: Misses some symbols?

2003-10-04 Thread Falk Hueffner
Hi,

the symbol parsing part of mklibs has been reworked in 0.1.12. Can you
please check whether the problem is still there and if so, how exactly
to reproduce it?

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Re: Milo

2003-10-01 Thread Falk Hueffner
Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Okay, in Joey's summary of Oldenberg he hints @ Milo Source being
> unavailable.

Well, there's a version from Stefan Reinauer from Suse
(http://www.suse.de/~stepan/), but it is difficult to compile with a
non-Suse kernel source. He even has some source based on the 2.4
kernel at ftp.suse.com//pub/people/stepan/milo/new, but I don't know
whether it ever worked.

Reportedly, the Gentoo folks got a reasonable Milo version to compile
recently, so anybody interested in working on it should probably ask
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Re: aboot

2003-08-03 Thread Falk Hueffner
"Peter 'p2' De Schrijver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Attached you will find a patch for aboot which fixes the following
> problems :
> 
> - compile with gcc 3.3

> - printf("aboot: not an executable ELF file\n");
> + xprintf("aboot: not an executable ELF file\n");

I don't really like this. Is this because gcc optimizes
printf("foo\n") to puts("foo")? I think it would be easier to just
provide a puts.

Also, have you checked out the CVS of aboot at sf.net? Maybe it's
fixed there already.

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Re: New d-i debcamp in a few months?

2003-07-22 Thread Falk Hueffner
> > > How many are interested in going to such event?  Where are you
> > > located in the world?

Me too, but only if it's close and I don't have anything better to do
at the time. Count me as approximately 0.4 persons.

- Falk Hueffner - Tuebingen, Germany

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Bug#172828: mklibs : problem on mips

2003-04-03 Thread Falk Hueffner
Alastair McKinstry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm writing to you as the authors of mklibs

Damn. Why does everybody think I know how mklibs works just because I
wrote it? ;) Seriously, I just stole most stuff from existing scripts,
I'm not really an expert on dynamic linking...

> They are found in libc. Now, in i386, for example, they are of type:
> eg. 
>   NOTYPE  WEAK   DEFAULT  UND  _pthread_cleanup_pop_restore
> 
> But on MIPs, they are all:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/lib$ readelf -s -W libc.so.6 | grep  WEAK | grep UND |
> grep FUNC
>   2023:  0 FUNCWEAK   DEFAULT  UND  _pthread_cleanup_push_defer
> 
> I believe this means they are all weak objects, not "normally"
> marked as such.  They will resolve to zero if not found elsewhere,
> but undefined_symbols() in mklibs treats them simply as undefined.

I am not quite sure about how to handle weak symbols properly. If they
are provided somewhere, we would usually want them to be used. So just
ignoring all weak symbols doesn't seem proper.

The best way seems to be to check whether the set of unresolved
symbols didn't change since the last pass, and if so, whether it
consists of only weak symbols. If so, just leave them undefined and
quit. Otherwise abort (better than looping infinitely). Does that
sound sensible?

I'm a bit short on time currently, I'll see whether I can make a patch
the next few days.

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Re: d-i: depmod fails on Alpha

2003-03-16 Thread Falk Hueffner
Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Falk Hueffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > I'm trying to build d-i on Alpha. I get this error:
> > 
> > # Set up modules.dep, ensure there is at least one standard dir (kernel
> > # in this case), so depmod will use its prune list for archs with no
> > # modules.
> > mkdir -p ./tmp/net/tree/lib/modules/2.4.20-generic/kernel
> > depmod -q -a -b ./tmp/net/tree/ 2.4.20-generic
> > depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented
> > 
> > make: *** [net-tree-stamp] Error 1
> > 
> > I'm running kernel 2.5.59. Is that a problem? Or any other ideas?
> 
> It's running the depmod from module-init-tools.  You need to check
> the existence of module-init-tools and always run the depmod from
> modutils for a 2.4 kernel.

Actually, I don't have module-init-tools installed, since my kernel
doesn't have modules support... and I guess that's the problem.

You're right that this should be checked, though.

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Bug#184908: Missing build dependency on gtk

2003-03-15 Thread Falk Hueffner
Package: cdebconf
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-03-15
Severity: important
Justification: fails to build from source

Current CVS:

[...]
Compiling /home/falk/debian/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules/frontend
/gtk/gtk.c to gtk.opic
Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
/home/falk/debian/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules/frontend/gtk/gtk.c:64:21:
 gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory
/home/falk/debian/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules/frontend/gtk/gtk.c:69: 
syntax error before "GtkWidget"
/home/falk/debian/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules/frontend/gtk/gtk.c:69: 
warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union
/home/falk/debian/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules/frontend/gtk/gtk.c:80: 
syntax error before '*' token
[...]

Apparently, a build dependency on some gtk devel package is missing.

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d-i: depmod fails on Alpha

2003-03-15 Thread Falk Hueffner
Hi,

I'm trying to build d-i on Alpha. I get this error:

# Set up modules.dep, ensure there is at least one standard dir (kernel
# in this case), so depmod will use its prune list for archs with no
# modules.
mkdir -p ./tmp/net/tree/lib/modules/2.4.20-generic/kernel
depmod -q -a -b ./tmp/net/tree/ 2.4.20-generic
depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented

make: *** [net-tree-stamp] Error 1

I'm running kernel 2.5.59. Is that a problem? Or any other ideas?

modutils is 2.4.21-2.

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Bug#184375: Typo in srm-reader

2003-03-11 Thread Falk Hueffner
Package: srm-reader
Version: 0.01 (not installed)
Severity: normal

[ -e /proc/srm_environmenti/named_variables/language ] || exit 0
  ^ an i too much

(BTW, I didn't actually test the package, just had a look)

    Falk

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Installing Debian on a Proliant DL380

2003-03-03 Thread David Falk
Title: Message



 
I cant seem to get 
Debian to see the hard drives. I have a Smart Array controller and that is setup 
correctly but I cant get Debian to see it. Any Suggestions?
 
 


Re: working on the Alpha port

2002-12-12 Thread Falk Hueffner
Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 05:12:06PM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote:
> > >>>>> On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:24:25 +0100
> > >>>>> "ML" == Mario Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ML> 
> > ML> Alexander Kotelnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >> I have faced a problem with booting from two disks. The trouble seems
> > >> to be in Herbert's kernel, since mine boots and loads debian-installer
> > >> initrd image.
> > ML> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=m
> > ML> 
> > ML> I guess that is the problem.
> > 
> > Ah.. almost sure it is.
> 
> What boot loader are you using? It should be loading the initrd, not
> the kernel.

Hmm, it looks like aboot doesn't support loading the initrd from a
different floppy than the kernel. (I've only looked at the source,
though, not really tried it.) So we could either hack aboot, or get
back to load_ramdisk. What do you think?

BTW, are you planning on creating any Alpha kernel images udebs?

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Bug#172828: mklibs: loops on mips

2002-12-12 Thread Falk Hueffner
Guido Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The man page doesn't mention an option to actually show the
> unresolved symbols.

You can give -v twice. This should probably be a separate option.

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Re: working on the Alpha port

2002-12-12 Thread Falk Hueffner
Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 05:12:06PM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote:
> > >>>>> On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:24:25 +0100
> > >>>>> "ML" == Mario Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ML> 
> > ML> Alexander Kotelnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >> I have faced a problem with booting from two disks. The trouble seems
> > >> to be in Herbert's kernel, since mine boots and loads debian-installer
> > >> initrd image.
> > ML> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=m
> > ML> 
> > ML> I guess that is the problem.
> > 
> > Ah.. almost sure it is.
> 
> What boot loader are you using? It should be loading the initrd, not
> the kernel.

Shouldn't it be compiled in anyway? People might want to load
additional drivers/plugins/whatever from floppy.

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Re: Default disk partition table type?

2002-12-11 Thread Falk Hueffner
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> OK.  Is this a good approximation?
> 
>   /* Need to define on a per arch basis */
>   #if defined(__i386__)
>   #  define DISK_LABEL "msdos"
>   #elif defined(ia64)
>   #  define DISK_LABEL "msdos"
>   #elif defined(hppa)
>   #  define DISK_LABEL "msdos"
>   #elif defined(__mips__) && defined(__MIPSEL__)
>   #  define DISK_LABEL "msdos"
>   #elif defined(__mips__) && defined(__MIPSEB__)
>   /* Only supported in libparted 1.6.3? */
>   #  define DISK_LABEL "mips" /* SGI disklabel */
>   #else /* not __i386__ */
>   #  error "Default DISK_LABEL is not known or not supported on this platform"
>   #endif /* not __i386__ */

Alpha needs MSDOS or OSF disklables, depening on the firmware used. So
there needs to be a runtime decision.

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Re: keyboard

2002-10-12 Thread Falk Hueffner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I'm interested in a price of a Turkish keyboard

We don't sell Turkish keyboards. In fact, we don't sell anything. See
http://www.debian.org/ for what we actually do.

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Bug#154169: mklibs: bug re-introduces (symlinks)

2002-07-25 Thread Falk Hueffner

Erik Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed Jul 24, 2002 at 11:28:46AM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 07:42:24PM +0200, Thomas Poindessous wrote:
> > > Hi, I tried to rebuild d-i and I looked that symlinks of /lib/ld-2.2.5 to
> > > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (and others) was missing.
> > 
> > Please remind me: why do we need to preserve these symlinks?
> 
> The only reason for the symlinks is to make it easy to upgrade
> libraries -- not something the installer needs to worry about...
> Sure, just install the libs with their proper .so names and we
> can save (1 inode + ~4k)/per symlink from the installer rootfs.

The symlinks are converted to hardlinks, so they only take up space in
the directory, but usually not enough to push it over 1k, so it saves
not a single byte.

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Re: Helping a port?

2002-07-24 Thread Falk Hueffner

"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, 2002-07-22 at 22:32, Falk Hueffner wrote:
> > Wartan Hachaturow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > Recently I've got a Alpha (164LX), and now ready to join the
> > > effort. Is there some TODO?
> > 
> > The most important thing would be to port the next-generation
> > installer system "debian-installer" to Alpha. It would probably quite
> > a bit of work, though.
>
> Is there any document that explaining how to start hacking.  I
> checked out the code from and I found many design.txt and other .txt
> files that is really helpful. What i am looking for is a document
> that explain how to build and test the debian installer on i386
> machine. Is the document already there in the CVS ?

I did not find anything, either; the README isn't particularly
helpful.  Perhaps somebody from debian-boot, which I cced, can help?

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Bug#152235: no manual page

2002-07-14 Thread Falk Hueffner

Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> * Philip Blundell 
> 
> | On Mon, 2002-07-08 at 08:52, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> | > * Matt Kraai 
> | > 
> | > | There is no manual page for mklibs.  I stumbled across one at
> | > | DebConf2, however, and have appended it below.
> | > 
> | > Thanks -- fixed version uploading now.
> | 
> | Would you care to check the changes you made to mklibs into CVS? 
> | cvs.debian.org:/cvs/debian-boot, module mklibs.
> 
> sure, I wasn't aware that mklibs was in CVS.  Thanks for the
> heads-up. :)

Wouldn't it make more sense to remove it from CVS and make it a build
dependency?

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Re: b-f bug maint and reassigning to install-doc

2002-07-12 Thread Falk Hueffner

Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 09 Apr 2002 at 10:07:38 -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> > reassign 126030 milo
> [...]
> > Bug 126030 must be a milo issue, right?
> 
> Where does milo come from, anyway? #126030 isn't assigned to anyone at
> the moment because there is no milo package ... is it hardwired into the
> kernels or into boot-floppies or something?

No, we download the images from SuSE while building... Compiling them
is nontrivial, and I don't use MILO, so I didn't feel like making a
package. In the long run, that would certainly be better, though...

As for the bug report, I can perhaps kludge it to download the potato
image.

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Bug#147841: Alphaserver 2100 5/250

2002-05-23 Thread Falk Hueffner

reassign 147841 kernel-image-2.2.20-generic
thanks

Looks like a problem with the kernel. Did you ever get any other
Linux kernel to boot on this machine? A 2.4 kernel for example?

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Re: bootable woody alpha netinst cd/iso

2002-05-19 Thread Falk Hueffner

"Ted Goodridge, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I need to know what to tell the installer (what URL) to grab alpha
> woody

I don't think you can do that... You'll have to install potato first
and then upgrade to woody.

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Re: bootable woody alpha netinst cd/iso

2002-05-19 Thread Falk Hueffner

"Ted Goodridge, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Um, the potato images will work? How?

Well, by burning a CD from them, inserting it into the CDROM drive and
booting from it... I'm afraid I cannot really help you unless you're a
bit more specific about your problems :)

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Re: bootable woody alpha netinst cd/iso

2002-05-19 Thread Falk Hueffner

"Ted Goodridge, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm offlist, so please CC me directly
> 
> I am in dire need of a woody bootable iso image for alpha.  My
> floppy drives have died on me and have no way of doing a clean
> install.  The only working os I have is windows Could someone
> give me a hand?

If you've got SRM, and you have network so just the installation
system suffices, I could try to quickly kludge an ISO image... But
will the potato images not do?

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Re: Debian GNU/Linux on a floppyless Alpha

2002-04-05 Thread Falk Hueffner

Frank Ecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've had some fun trying to install the Potato release
> of Debian GNU/Linux on a DEC Alpha Station.  Everything
> was fine until the installation routine asked me to
> place a floppy disk into the drive associated with
> /dev/fd0.  Apparently, it was about to create a "rescue
> floppy."
> 
>I didn't want to do that but had no option to skip
> that step.  What's even worse, even if I had wanted to
> create such a floppy, I would have been unable to do
> so.  This jewel of an Alpha doesn't have a floppy disk
> drive, yet the installation routine was convinced of the
> contrary!
> 
>The favor I'd like to ask of you now is: Could you
> modify the installation routine so that those of us who
> don't want a "rescue floppy" or don't have a floppy
> drive can get by?

The current version of the boot floppies doesn't even generate a
rescue floppy by default, and I was pretty sure the potato version did
the same... are you sure it didn't ask for the drivers disk or
something? Also it would be helpful to know what firmware you were
using and how you booted the machine (tftp?).

In any case, the potato boot floppies are unmaintained, and you should
probably rather try the pre-release woody boot floppies. If that still
doesn't work, please file a bug report.

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Re: alpha/milo install on multia

2002-03-25 Thread Falk Hueffner

Florian Lohoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> except the sparse ext2 which i did not get working (Does the 2.2 Milo
> really support this)

Hmm, I was pretty sure it does.

> there seems to be a problem with "Make system bootable from
> disk". Selecting this pops up something like "Found DOS partition" -
> Acknowledging this immeatly goes to the initial dbootstrap "Welcome"
> screen.

That probably means dbootstrap segfaulted or similar... please file a
bug report. There's a "make log floppy" option or similar, perhaps you
can find something in the logs.

> No dos filesystem gets created nor does the milo/linload.exe etc get
> copied to that partition. 

DOS filesystems currently never get created by the installer, the user
always needs to do it by hand :(

> I was unsuccessful in letting milo boot from the sparse ext2
> filesystem - Selecting the partition with "hda6:" and then issueing
> an "ls" within milo showed an empty directory. A boot command like
> "boot hda6:vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6" fails. 

Weird. Did anybody ever get this to work?

> As a workaround i copied the kernel to the dos partition which is
> not really satisfying ...

Actually, I've pondered whether it might not be a good idea to have
this setup (kernel on FAT next to MILO) as standard. No more problems
with MILO incompatibilities... The only drawback I see is that you
need to give your kernel images 8+3 names.

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Re: alpha/milo sparse ext2 install

2002-03-24 Thread Falk Hueffner

Florian Lohoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> it seems the Alpha install disks when installing via Milo (i did so
> on my Multia) does not ask for ext2 kernel 2.0 backward compatibility
> as it assumes the milo is built on 2.0 kernels (Which was true for
> potato).

Hm, I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean. I changed the logic
in 3.0.21, I supposed this is what you tried? The question should
always be asked; the default should be "yes" for MILO and APB and "no"
for SRM. So you didn't see this question? Then there's a bug
somewhere

> With woody it seems the milo is based on 2.2.16-SuSe so it should be
> feasible to enable sparse ext2 for Alpha/Milo.

Unfortunately, the 2.2 series doesn't seem to work for everybody...
OK, a cleanup suggestion:

- SRM: Never ask, just use new ext2. Nobody uses 2.0 kernels anymore.
- MILO/APB: ask if user wants to boot from this partition using
  ancient MILO/APB. If yes, enable old ext2 and force blocksize to 1k
  if yes. Default to no.

If this sounds reasonable, I will implement it after easter, OK?

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Re: 3.0.21 bf2.4 report

2002-03-24 Thread Falk Hueffner

Othmar Pasteka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > "mounted" perhaps "eingebunden" for consistency?
> 
> yeah, that's sounds great, and it makes sense, opposed to the
> above... i never ever read wurzel-dateisystem in a german book :).

I think the standard German term is "eingehängt", which IMHO is also
better. It would probably be a good idea to check how SuSE translate
this stuff...

Falk


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Re: Small patch (makes root.bin about 3900 byte smaller)

2002-03-06 Thread Falk Hueffner

Christian Leber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,
> 
> could somebody please apply this small non intrusive patch or say me why
> it is not an option?
> (against CVS from _now_, it belongs just before the "disk loop image
> filesystem" is created)
> 
> Index: rootdisk.sh
> ===
> RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/boot-floppies/rootdisk.sh,v
> retrieving revision 1.344
> diff -r1.344 rootdisk.sh
> 906a907,909
> > # compress devices.tar.gz better, saves about 3900 byte on the the root image
> > (cd $R/usr/lib/debootstrap ; mv devices.tar.gz _devices.tar.gz ; zcat 
>_devices.tar.gz|gzip -9>devices.tar.gz ; rm _devices.tar.gz)
> >

I think it would make more sense to create it like that in the first
place (untested):

diff -u -p -r1.344 rootdisk.sh
--- rootdisk.sh 2002/03/06 07:21:05 1.344
+++ rootdisk.sh 2002/03/06 14:00:11
@@ -359,7 +359,7 @@ else
   for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7; do mknod $R/dev/ubd$i b 98 $i; done
fi

-   (cd $R ; tar zcf $devtarball dev)
+   (cd $R ; GZIP=--best tar zcf $devtarball dev)
 fi

T=${tmpdir}/boot-floppies/prototype-tmp-$$

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Re: Bug#136561: joel@diggy.com.au: missing drivers in jensen (alpha) boot floppies]

2002-03-03 Thread Falk Hueffner

Philip Blundell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Has anybody actually stepped forward to do an alpha build?  I don't
> think we should mark bugs as "pending" until they really are being
> worked on.
> 
> FWIW, I can build some alpha disks today if nobody else is on the case.

I'm currently working on this, but I don't have continuous net access,
so I don't know how far I'll get.

Falk


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Re: Kernel Config's for Alpha Boot Disk's

2002-01-20 Thread Falk Hueffner

campbell steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've had a pretty good look around to try and find the kernel config
> file for the debian alpha boot disks, they don't seem to be in the
> same place like the x86 ones are. If someone can point me in the
> right direction to find them then that would be great.

The kernels are taken from the packages kernel-image-2.2.20-generic,
kernel-image-2.2.20-jensen and kernel-image-2.2.20-nautilus, which
contain the config.

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Bug#126030: boot-floppies eb164 milo hangs when lanuched by ARC linload.exe

2002-01-06 Thread Falk Hueffner

Hi,

does any of the 2.2 milos from http://www.suse.de/~stepan/ work? I
would like to use them by default, because 2.0 milos can't load
kernels from newer ext2 file systems; but if it just doesn't work,
I'll try to hardcode 2.0 milo for the release and document this.

Falk



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Re: alpha netboot status?

2001-12-27 Thread Falk Hueffner

Philip Blundell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The "todo" file mentions:
> 
>   o Alpha todo:
> * fix netboot
> 
> Anyone know what the specific problem is here?  Netboot seems to
> work OK for me at the moment.

I added that ages ago when the netboot stuff didn't even build, I've
fixed it since but couldn't test it. So I guess this can be removed
now.

Falk


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Re: 3.0.17 alpha nfs-root install problems

2001-12-19 Thread Falk Hueffner

Erik Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue Dec 18, 2001 at 09:21:53PM +0100, Falk Hueffner wrote:
> > 
> > Just checking out boot-floppies out of CVS and building should work
> > (although it downloads huge amounts of stuff), except currently the
> > busybox package is broken and a new version needs to be built.
> 
> Care to elaborate on what is wrong with the busybox package?

No idea, but there's a version check in the build scripts that
complains. So whateve it is, it is fixed already, I'm just waiting for
the buildd to catch up.

Falk


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Re: 3.0.17 alpha nfs-root install problems

2001-12-18 Thread Falk Hueffner

"Sam Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Most impressed with the new installer. Just having some grief with
> installing to an alpha (specifically multia) which has no disk
> devices.  Boots fine. Mounts root over NFS fine. Downloads files
> from the network fine. Just refuses to mount the rescue disk In
> messages I'm seeing things like this:
> 
> installing /tmp/rescue.bin
> Mounting /dev/ram on /floppy failed: no such device
> Mounting /dev/ram on /floppy failed: no such device
> Mounting /dev/ram on /floppy failed: invalid argument
> Mounting /dev/ram on /floppy failed: invalid argument
> Mounting /dev/ram on /floppy failed: no such device
> Unable to mount the rescue floppy. You may have inserted the wrong floppy.
> Please try again.
> 
> Incidentally, cat /target/tmp/tmp/rescue.bin > /dev/ram followed by
> mount -t ext2 /dev/ram /floppy works fine.

Hm, that's weird. I'll check it when I get around.

> Any ideas what's going on here? If it's fixed in a new version, how
> can I create a new tftpboot.img? Does anyone have such an animal
> ready to roll?

Just checking out boot-floppies out of CVS and building should work
(although it downloads huge amounts of stuff), except currently the
busybox package is broken and a new version needs to be built.

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Re: woody install on alpha

2001-12-10 Thread Falk Hueffner

Robert Lemmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> i just installed woody on an alpha system and i encountered a couple
> of potential issues/problems that you might want to hear about:
> 
> my system is 164ux based and uses arcbios. i downloaded the floppy
> images and milo from "3.0.17-2001-11-2".
> 
> - the ruffian milo doesn't seem to be able to read from fat
>   filesystems, and therefore can't boot the rescue floppy. i
>   replaced it with a version i ripped of a suse cd that can read
>   fat. this one says "v1.1 Jay's hacked version" on startup.

Are you sure you're talking about the MILO and not ldmilo.exe? What is
the error message you get?

> - the driver-1.bin and driver-2.bin seem to be corrupt, since they
>   cannot be read by dbootstrap. the md5sums are ok, and the rescue
>   floppy can be read too.

Hm, weird. What exactly does dbootstrap say? Perhaps you could try
using the report option, which will write a log to a floppy.

>   if i dd these files to floppies, these floppies don't seem to have
>   a filesystem known to me/my kernel any more. i did the
>   installation from net and didn't need the floppies any more.

That's normal, they just contain a splitted tar with a few bytes
header on each disk.

Falk


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Bug#121110: boot-floppies: TFTP boot on Alpha broken

2001-12-01 Thread Falk Hueffner

Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> Falk Hueffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Package: boot-floppies
> > Version: N/A; reported 2001-11-25
> > Severity: normal
> > 
> > Installing via tftpboot.img will stall at installation of libc6.1, as
> > has been reported to debian-alpha several times,
> > e.g. http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2001/debian-alpha-200110/msg00010.html. 
>"rgh" told me on IRC:
> > 
> >  mellum: re "init q", when I had that problem ia64, it was
> >  because I forgot to boot with root=/dev/ram
> >  mellum: without that, the kernel wants to do it's initrd magic,
> >  and runs /linuxrc before starting sbin/init.  linuxrc is linked to
> >  init, so effectively init gets run as pid 12 (or something > 1,
> >  anyway)
> >  linuxrc is run with a pid > 1, and the kernel expects that to
> >  return before it starts init as pid 1
> >  root=/dev/ram makes the kernel realise that the ramdisk si a
> >  real ramdisk, and not an initrd, so it disables the running of
> >  linuxrc
> > 
> > So we need to find a way to force this parameter.
> 
> Isn't this the same as #116829 and wasn't it fixed in sysvinit 2.84-1 ?

Hm, yes, seems to be the same problem. I'll try to find a tester,
since netboot doesn't work for me.

Falk



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Bug#121915: INSTALLATION - Alpha 1st driver floppy not recognized

2001-12-01 Thread Falk Hueffner

Hi,

I'm afraid we don't have the resources to fix this currently. You may
want to try the woody boot floppies instead, which can be found at
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-alpha/current/

    Falk



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Bug#121200: Troubles

2001-11-26 Thread Falk Hueffner

Alexander Zavaruhin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Package: boot-floppies
> Version: 2.2.20-2000-12-03
> architecture: alpha
> model: DEC 3000
> memory: 32Mb
> 
> I have boot from SRM console by command "b dka500 -fl 0"
> Floppy was created by command "dd if=rescue.bin of=/dev/fd0"
> rescue.bin - system type "jensen"

Hm, on http://www.debian.org/ports/alpha/sys_types, DEC 3000 are
listed as unsupported. Are you sure this is a "jensen" (DEC 2000)?

In any case, there isn't really any work being done with the potato
boot floppies any more, so you should rather try the woody boot
floppies at
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-alpha/current. We've
had at least one report of them working on Jensen
(http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2001/debian-alpha-200108/msg00174.html)

Falk


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Bug#121110: boot-floppies: TFTP boot on Alpha broken

2001-11-25 Thread Falk Hueffner

Package: boot-floppies
Version: N/A; reported 2001-11-25
Severity: normal

Installing via tftpboot.img will stall at installation of libc6.1, as
has been reported to debian-alpha several times,
e.g. http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2001/debian-alpha-200110/msg00010.html. 
"rgh" told me on IRC:

 mellum: re "init q", when I had that problem ia64, it was
 because I forgot to boot with root=/dev/ram
 mellum: without that, the kernel wants to do it's initrd magic,
 and runs /linuxrc before starting sbin/init.  linuxrc is linked to
 init, so effectively init gets run as pid 12 (or something > 1,
 anyway)
 linuxrc is run with a pid > 1, and the kernel expects that to
 return before it starts init as pid 1
 root=/dev/ram makes the kernel realise that the ramdisk si a
 real ramdisk, and not an initrd, so it disables the running of
 linuxrc

So we need to find a way to force this parameter.

Falk

-- System Information
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: alpha
Kernel: Linux borkum 2.4.15-pre6 #2 Wed Nov 21 19:23:16 CET 2001 alpha
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=de_DE



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Re: testing CD that boots

2001-11-21 Thread Falk Hueffner

A Mennucc1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have a local testing repository and I periodically make CDs out of
> it, using debian-cd
> 
> I would like to make a CD that boots, and to use it to install a PC;
> and to use (and test) the latest boot method
> 
> what should I do?

Install the debian-cd package or check out debian-cd from CVS.

Falk


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Re: langs.xml error

2001-11-20 Thread Falk Hueffner

Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 06:14:40PM +0100, Falk Hueffner wrote:
> > LC_CTYPE=en_IN.UTF-8 reduce-font /usr/src/unifont.bdf < all.utf > 
>unifont-reduced.bdf
> > setlocale: en_IN.UTF-8
> > FYI: MB_CUR_MAX/MB_LEN_MAX: 6/16
> > Used chars: 1729 (4112912 processed)
> > bdftobogl -b unifont-reduced.bdf > unifont-reduced.bgf
> > bogl_write_font failed
> 
> Well, reduce-font succeeded. But I have never seen that bdftobogl
> error... Could it be that you ran out of disk space?

No. This seems to be a bug in bdftobogl. Adding a bit debug shows:

bdftobogl -b unifont-reduced.bdf > unifont-reduced.bgf
my_write(1, 0x120008846, 4)
   write(1, 0x120008846, 4) -> 4
   write(1, 0x12000884a, 0) -> 4
my_write(1, 0x111e0, 48)
   write(1, 0x111e0, 48) -> 48
   write(1, 0x11210, 0) -> 48
my_write(1, 0x12001a990, 16)
   write(1, 0x12001a990, 16) -> 16
   write(1, 0x12001a9a0, 0) -> 16
my_write(1, 0x1200664c0, 1024)
   write(1, 0x1200664c0, 1024) -> 1024
   write(1, 0x1200668c0, 0) -> 1024
index_size = 3714
my_write(1, 0x1200668d0, 29712)
   write(1, 0x1200668d0, 29712) -> 15292
   my_write: Bad address
   write(1, 0x12006a48c, 14420) -> -1
bogl_write_font failed 5

Probably in bdftobogl.c,

  if (my_write(fd, font->index, index_size * sizeof(int *)))

should really be

  if (my_write(fd, font->index, index_size * sizeof(int)))

(the bogl author seems to be of the "long" = "make sure it's really 32
bit" fraction. Sigh.)

Falk


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Re: langs.xml error

2001-11-20 Thread Falk Hueffner

Claus Hindsgaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> From: Falk Hueffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 4:00 PM
> > What's the problem there?
> 
> I believe this is because alpha has no items in the *.src files. Look at the
> english.src. It contains items for all the other architectures in tags such
> as:
> 
>  font="LatArCyrHeb-16" keymap="i386/qwerty/uk" msgcat="en">
> 
> I guess you need to add a line with arch="alpha". See README-Translators for
> details on the rest of the fields.
> 
> When a working entry in english.src have been worked out, the rest of the
> languages' *.src have to construct their variants of the entry.

Well, Alpha keyboards aren't really different from i386 keyboards
anywhere. Is there a method to express that without exchanging "i386"
with "i386 alpha" everywhere?

Well, if I change it in english.src, I get:

make[5]: Leaving directory 
`/data/home/falk/debian/boot-floppies/boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/langs'
cat po.utf rn.utf ../dbootstrap/langs/english.xml ../dbootstrap/langs/russian.xml 
../dbootstrap/langs/polish.xml ../dbootstrap/langs/portuguese.xml 
../dbootstrap/langs/french.xml ../dbootstrap/langs/czech.xml 
../dbootstrap/langs/german.xml ../dbootstrap/langs/hungarian.xml 
../dbootstrap/langs/turkish.xml ../dbootstrap/langs/japanese.xml 
../dbootstrap/langs/swedish.xml ../dbootstrap/langs/chinese_t.xml 
../dbootstrap/langs/chinese_s.xml ../dbootstrap/langs/danish.xml 
../dbootstrap/langs/galician.xml ../dbootstrap/langs/korean.xml 
../dbootstrap/langs/croatian.xml ../dbootstrap/langs/norwegian.xml > all.utf
LC_CTYPE=en_IN.UTF-8 reduce-font /usr/src/unifont.bdf < all.utf > unifont-reduced.bdf
Unable to set locale
make[4]: *** [unifont-reduced.bdf] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/data/home/falk/debian/boot-floppies/boot-floppies/utilities/bogl'

Hm, it seems one needs "en_IN UTF-8" or something in
/etc/locale.gen...  Can we avoid that? If not, we should give at least
a proper error message.

Then I get:

LC_CTYPE=en_IN.UTF-8 reduce-font /usr/src/unifont.bdf < all.utf > unifont-reduced.bdf
setlocale: en_IN.UTF-8
FYI: MB_CUR_MAX/MB_LEN_MAX: 6/16
Used chars: 1729 (4112912 processed)
bdftobogl -b unifont-reduced.bdf > unifont-reduced.bgf
bogl_write_font failed
make[4]: *** [unifont-reduced.bgf] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/data/home/falk/debian/boot-floppies/boot-floppies/utilities/bogl'

Oh well. I think I'm not in the mood to trace this any further :-/

Falk


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langs.xml error

2001-11-20 Thread Falk Hueffner

Hi,

with CVS boot-floppies I get on Alpha:

[...]
iconv -f `head -1 croatian.src | sed -e 's/^.*charset="\([^"]*\)".*/\1/'` -t utf-8 < 
croatian.src > croatian.xml
iconv -f `head -1 norwegian.src | sed -e 's/^.*charset="\([^"]*\)".*/\1/'` -t utf-8 < 
norwegian.src > norwegian.xml
gcc -c -Wall -g -DHAVE_UTF_CONSOLE -I/usr/include/python2.1 iconv.c
In file included from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/alpha-linux/2.95.4/include/stdarg.h:36,
 from /usr/include/python2.1/modsupport.h:10,
 from /usr/include/python2.1/Python.h:91,
 from iconv.c:22:
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/alpha-linux/2.95.4/include/va-alpha.h:36: warning: redefinition of 
`va_list'
/usr/include/stdio.h:70: warning: `va_list' previously declared here
gcc -shared -o iconv.so iconv.o -lpython2.1
./ver2.py 1 alpha langs.xml
processing "langs.xml", utf=1, arch=alpha
No items for arch alpha found.  No file generated
make[5]: *** [langs.c] Error 2
make[5]: Leaving directory 
`/data/home/falk/debian/boot-floppies/boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/langs'

What's the problem there?

Falk


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Module location

2001-11-04 Thread Falk Hueffner

Hi,

when I try to install the modules for Alpha, having the boot disk
stuff in a dir on my harddisk, I get:

Nov  4 19:14:53 (none) user.info dbootstrap[53]: no 
'/instmnt//dists/woody/main/disks-alpha/current//images-1.44/rescue.bin' files found, 
kernel not in the default location
Nov  4 19:14:55 (none) user.info dbootstrap[53]: found rescue.bin in 
/instmnt//current/images-1.44, but can't find drivers /drivers.tgz
Nov  4 19:14:55 (none) user.info dbootstrap[53]: found rescue.bin in 
/instmnt//current/jensen/images-1.44, but can't find drivers /drivers.tgz
Nov  4 19:14:55 (none) user.info dbootstrap[53]: found rescue.bin in 
/instmnt//current/nautilus/images-1.44, but can't find drivers /drivers.tgz
Nov  4 19:14:55 (none) user.err dbootstrap[53]: The installation program couldn't find 
any directory containing the files rescue.bin, /drivers.tgz.

bbootstrap is looking for the drivers.tgz in the same directory as
rescue.bin, but it's actually in .. of that dir.  Why does this work
on i386? (I assume it does?) It uses the same layout...

Falk


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Re: test of woody tftpboot.img stalls

2001-11-01 Thread Falk Hueffner

(I cc this to debian-boot in case somebody has an idea about the init
stuff)

"Mikael Westerberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Still problems with latest tftboot.img(3.0.16-2001-10-30).  During
> two attempts to install the installation has stalled while
> extracting libc6.  I can still switch consoles and the maschine
> still responds to pings, but I can not activate the shell on the
> second console.

Hm, there seems to be some problem in the libc postinst; we've had
another similar report before from an AlphaStation 500/500 user. I've
never seen this, though. Could you perhaps paste the last few lines of
output of the postinst script? It should appear on console 4.

The postinst contains this:

# Black magic. If we are in a chroot, then /proc/1/exe will not resolve to  
# a file (will return EPERM). This keeps us from breaking things in 
# debootstrap, and the like.
case "$sysvinitver" in  
$badsysvinitver)
;;  
*)  
if [ -x /sbin/init -a -x /bin/readlink ]; then  
if [ "$(readlink /proc/1/exe 2>/dev/null)" = "/sbin/init" ]; 
then
(init u ; sleep 1)  
fi  
fi  
;;  
esac

Perhaps this magic fails, and it thinks it needs to restart init? This
would explain what you see.

Falk


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Re: Cant install anymore... VERY CRITICAL

2001-10-22 Thread Falk Hueffner

"Roger Eklund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> its impossible to install debian from the net... ive tried woody
> several times and several days now on diffrent connections and
> computers... its something in the installation scrip.. it downloads
> the base system and extracts it.. but when it should install it.. the
> comman is chroot dpkg --force...  I get an error.. plzz
> fix.. =)

There are move verbose message on another console, I think it's the
4th. So press Alt-F4 and check the messages there.

Falk


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Re: Woody install report

2001-10-21 Thread Falk Hueffner

Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > (3) in the post-boot configuration, why are MD5 passwords defaulted to
> > "No" ie not enabled ?
> 
> compatibility with crufty old unixes i suppose.  if you were to make
> the box into an NIS server that would matter i think.

Somebody who wants that will know to what to answer. People who don't
know what this is all about will want MD5 passwords, so this should be
the default.

Falk


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Bug#116413: Alpha: Wrong partition No. for aboot

2001-10-21 Thread Falk Hueffner

Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Falk Hueffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Ok, I can fix this, the SILO part already has equivalent code to
> > handle this that I can steal. But I don't see any point in having
> > a separate /boot partition. Why do you think a special partition
> > would be useful?
> 
> Well, it's best to be flexible.  People seem to have ways they like
> to do things.  We might not always personally agree, but...
> 
> We should either support aboot with a separate /boot partition, or
> else throw up a big warning when someone tries to mount a partition
> as /boot ...

Ok, I'll then try adding support for it. /boot shouldn't appear in the
mount point selector for Alpha though, I think.

Falk




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Bug#116413: Alpha: Wrong partition No. for aboot

2001-10-20 Thread Falk Hueffner

Jan-Benedict Glaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Package: boot-floppies
> Architecture: Alpha
> Version: current/
> Distribution: woody/sid
> 
> After installing my videocard-less system (with more or less PITA) I
> had difficulties to boot it. I've added an extra partition for /boot
> (as I normally do for all other architectures I am workin on as
> well), but this wasn't recognized by dbootstrap. dbootstrap set my
> root partition's partition number as the partition ID where to
> search /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.19-generic in. Wrong.

Ok, I can fix this, the SILO part already has equivalent code to
handle this that I can steal. But I don't see any point in having a
separate /boot partition. Why do you think a special partition would
be useful?

Falk



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Re: installing

2001-10-19 Thread Falk Hueffner

"ivo jorris graad.p" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I bought a set of Debian 2.2r3. there are 3 source cds, 3 binary alpha
> cds and 3 binary i386 cds.
> I want to install Debian into DEC Personal Workstation 600a, I've upgrade
> the bios and now I'm using SRM console.
> I want to ask how to install Debian into my workstastion? I've read your
> site about installing Debian for alpha, but I still can't understand how to
> make bootdisk and what is the purpose of source cd, binary alpha cd, binary
> i386 cd??
> Please tell what should I write to boot from CD-ROM by SRM console.

You need to find out the SRM device name with "show dev". Then type
'boot xxx -fl 0' where xxx is your CD-ROM device.

If this doesn't work, you might also want to try the upcoming woody
boot disks from ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-alpha/current,
where a README.txt also explains how to create boot floppies.

Falk


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MontaVista library optimizer

2001-09-23 Thread Falk Hueffner

Hi,

MontaVista have released their library reducing tool at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/libraryopt/.  Has anybody checked yet
whether this is suitable for us?  In the long time, it seems to be
more reasonable to use an external tool instead of hacking our own
scripts; and at first glance, it looks more advanced.

If nobody else is working on this, I'll try to integrate it into the
boot floppies. If it works, I could perhaps even make a .deb of it,
since that seems better to me than to include it into the
boot-floppies CVS (even though it's only 2 files).

    Falk


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cvs commit to boot-floppies by falk

2001-09-01 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies
who:falk
time:   Sat Sep  1 09:46:49 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Use libc 2.2.4 on Alpha.


Files:

changed:rootdisk.sh


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation/en by falk

2001-08-18 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/en
who:falk
time:   Sat Aug 18 04:51:15 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Alpha docs: Fixed syntax errors.


Files:

changed:boot-new.sgml rescue-boot.sgml


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/scripts/rootdisk by falk

2001-08-18 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/scripts/rootdisk
who:falk
time:   Sat Aug 18 04:50:22 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Added sbin/mkfs.msdos (link to mkdosfs), its absence was confusing people.


Files:

changed:SMALL_BASE_LIST_alpha


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation/en by falk

2001-08-16 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/en
who:falk
time:   Thu Aug 16 16:57:54 PDT 2001


Log Message:

More Alpha documentation updates.


Files:

changed:boot-new.sgml inst-methods.sgml partitioning.sgml post-install.sgml 
preparing.sgml rescue-boot.sgml


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Re: Alpha Milo/rescue/root floppies on LX164

2001-08-15 Thread Falk Hueffner

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> With ArcBIOS v5.70:
>  The LX164 MILO disk works great. The install is almost flawless, with
> two exceptions:
>  tasksel exits with an error stating that all task definitions are
> duplicated. This condition is present also in the woody & sid versions
> of tasksel on a running system.

Hmm, could you please file a bug report against tasksel about this?

>  The installer will not write linload.exe and milo to the 5M FAT16
> partition (/dev/hda1). This may be due to my own incompetence, as it's
> never worked for me.

Hm, was there any reason in the log? You can use the "report bug" or
similar menu entry to save the logs to the floppy. I've not yet tried
MILO installation, but it *should* work :)

> However, going to VT2, I find that there is no provision in the
> install to make a FAT16 filesystem. A clue?

There's a "mkdosfs" on the boot floppy, but no menu entry to access it
so you'd need to use the shell IIRC.  I will document this for now,
and see if I can hack it to be accessible from the menu.

BTW, does anybody know if it is possible to launch AlphaBios from SRM
on an SX164? I know how to *install* it, but for testing purposes it
would be nice if I could launch it off a floppy.

> With SRM v5.8-1:
>  Boots fine from the rescue floppy, installs fine (with the tasksel
> exception) and then the installed system won't boot. The kernel loads
> and starts, then gets an error --
> "ID 1 is respawning too fast, disabling for 5 minutes."
>  And that's that.

Weird, I have no idea about this... ID 1 would be init itself??

>  I'm not sure that the size of the disk isn't the problem. I've sort of
> assumed that the x86 1023-cylinder-syndrome doesn't apply in AXP-land.

I don't think aboot has any limit like that...

Falk


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Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version

2001-08-14 Thread Falk Hueffner

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> > Anthony Towns just posted a method on debian-boot [of making a
> > basedebs.tgz file]
> 
> OK, I gave this a try, same result; let me type in the end of console
> 4 (anything really odd is probably a typo):
> 
> dpkg: warning - ignoring pre-depencency problem !
> (Reading database... 77 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace dpkg 1.9.16 (using
> ../archives/dpkg_1.9.16_alpha.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement dpkg ...
> dpkg: dpkg: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you
> request:
>  dpkg depends on libc6.1 (>= 2.2.3-1); however:
>   Package libc6.1 is not installed.
>  dpkg depends on libncurses5 (>= 5.2.20010310-1); however:
>   Package libncurses5 is not installed.
>  dpkg depends on libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2; however:
>   Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed.
> Setting up dpkg (1.9.16) ...
> 
> Selecting previously deselected package libc6.1.
> (Reading database ... 216 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking libc6.1 (from ../libc6.1_2.2.3-8_alpha.deb) ...
> Setting up libc6.1 (2.2.3-7) ...
> Current default timezone: 'UTC'.
> Local time is now:  Tue Aug 14 20:07:43 UTC 2001.
> Universal time is now:  Tue Aug 14 20:07:43 UTC 2001.
> Run 'tzconfig' if you wish to change it.
> Package 'sysvinit' is not installed and no info is available.
> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
> and dpkg --conents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
> 
> ... and that's all she wrote, hard hang at this point (for those who
> arrived late, this is on a Bret, aka AlphaStation 500/500).

Perhaps it's trying to restart init then in a bad way. I'll retrieve
the postinst and have a look later.

Falk


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cvs commit to boot-floppies by falk

2001-08-14 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies
who:falk
time:   Tue Aug 14 16:10:29 PDT 2001


Log Message:

ARCS BIOS (Ruffian) requires a bootable x86 boot sector, so we fake
the magic.


Files:

changed:milodisk.sh


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/debian by falk

2001-08-14 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:falk
time:   Tue Aug 14 16:18:35 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Document recent Alpha changes.


Files:

changed:changelog


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Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version

2001-08-14 Thread Falk Hueffner

Doug Larrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Quoting Falk Hueffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > That's really good news. I couldn't get bootp to work, so I
> > couldn't test it.  There were some suspicious hacks in the
> > previous version...
> 
> Bootp is a lot easier to get going using a dhcp server rather than a
> bootp server.  Much better log messages.  Or did you mean the SRM
> end?

Yes, I meant the SRM end.  I couldn't get SRM tro transmit *anything*
over ethernet (checked with tcpdump), regardless of the medium type
setting.  Perhaps this is because I had a crappy ISA card at the other
end; they can communicate from Linux, though.

> > > The bad news?  The installation hangs during/right after
> > > installing the libc6.1 package.  It hangs so solid that the
> > > shell on the second virtual console will not respond.  I even
> > > tried floppies rather than tftp and it stops in the same
> > > location.  Is this a known problem?
> > 
> > No.  That's really weird; I have no idea what might cause this. I
> > had no problems at that point.  Did you download via http, or did
> > you install from a mounted mirror?
> 
> Downloaded via http.  If there's an easy way to make a local mirror
> of just the files needed for the base system I'd be willing to give
> that a try.

Anthony Towns just posted a method on debian-boot:

/usr/sbin/debootstrap --download-only --arch alpha woody woody-alpha 
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/
(cd woody-alpha && tar cf ../basedebs_3.0_alpha.tar *)
rm -rf woody-alpha

Falk


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation/en by falk

2001-08-14 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/en
who:falk
time:   Tue Aug 14 11:45:19 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Alpha updates.


Files:

changed:rescue-boot.sgml


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cvs commit to boot-floppies by falk

2001-08-14 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies
who:falk
time:   Tue Aug 14 11:47:44 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Copy ldmilo.exe also as linload.exe on Ruffian MILO disks to unify
installation instructions.


Files:

changed:milodisk.sh


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation/en by falk

2001-08-14 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/en
who:falk
time:   Tue Aug 14 10:19:24 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Clarify partitioning from Tru64 instructions.


Files:

changed:preparing.sgml


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation/en by falk

2001-08-14 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/en
who:falk
time:   Tue Aug 14 09:44:55 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Add missing .


Files:

changed:partitioning.sgml


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation/en by falk

2001-08-14 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/en
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time:   Tue Aug 14 09:45:53 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Make example alternate OS list arch specific.


Files:

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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation/en by falk

2001-08-14 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/en
who:falk
time:   Tue Aug 14 09:43:22 PDT 2001


Log Message:

* Mention Alpha generic and Platform 2000.
* Mark laptop section as i386-specific.
* Remove SMP "make -j" hint. This is an installation manual!
* Remove Tulip fixme that was fixed ages ago


Files:

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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation by falk

2001-08-14 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/documentation
who:falk
time:   Tue Aug 14 09:41:18 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Bump x11ver.


Files:

changed:defaults.ent


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap by falk

2001-08-14 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap
who:falk
time:   Tue Aug 14 09:25:23 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Alpha: Clarify aboot install message so it doesn't look as if it is
trying to install onto the root partition.


Files:

changed:bootconfig.c


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Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version

2001-08-14 Thread Falk Hueffner

Doug Larrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The good news?  bootp/tftp boot works great!  In SRM, you need to
> select bootp via console variable ('set ewa0_protocol bootp' or
> something like that) rather than via a flag to the boot command
> ('boot -proto bootp ewa0' does not work, failing with "Block
> FFF2 is not in any zone" messages).

That's really good news. I couldn't get bootp to work, so I couldn't
test it.  There were some suspicious hacks in the previous version...
 
> The bad news?  The installation hangs during/right after installing
> the libc6.1 package.  It hangs so solid that the shell on the second
> virtual console will not respond.  I even tried floppies rather than
> tftp and it stops in the same location.  Is this a known problem?

No.  That's really weird; I have no idea what might cause this. I had
no problems at that point.  Did you download via http, or did you
install from a mounted mirror?

> Also, when trying to write aboot to the disk, it looks like the
> installer is trying to swriteboot to the partition where the root
> filesystem is (/dev/sda) rather than directly to /dev/sda .

I noticed this too.  If this is not just the message being wrong, this
might even destroy data... I'll check it.

Falk


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/make by falk

2001-08-09 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/make
who:falk
time:   Thu Aug  9 20:03:07 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Fixed dependency mistake that caused needless rebuilds of the driver
disks.


Files:

changed:alpha.rules alpha.vars


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Alpha Boot Floppies: new version

2001-08-09 Thread Falk Hueffner

Hi,

I've built new boot floppies from the current boot-floppies CVS and
put them on ftp://134.2.15.134/boot-floppies/disks-alpha/. I think
they are now in a state to be added to ftp.debian.org at the next
boot-floppies release. I've used MILO 2.2-17 this time, since 2.2-18
was reported to be broken on at least two subarchitectures.
Unfortunately, I have only my SX164 to test, so I'd appreciate any
reports. I have not yet tested the complete installation on my
machine, since I have pppoe for internet access which isn't supported.

"make release" now works fine except for two things:

* You need the "srmbootfat" tool from the MILO source. In the long
  run, this could be provided by a MILO deb package. Currently, we
  could either require it to be locally installed, or I could add it
  to the CVS. It's two files of 12k (GPL). If this is considered a
  good idea, I'd like to create an "alpha-specials" dir. Any opinions?

* Downloading via apt-get still doesn't work because of dependency
  problems. Could I perhaps just commit the "fake-get" hack which uses
  wget instead and activate it for Alpha? Even if we fiddle with the
  packages, this problem can always reappear.

Hmm, that's it for now :) Next thing will be to fix netboot. We could
also need a tester for nautilus, since I have no idea about the
current state.

Falk


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cvs commit to boot-floppies by falk

2001-08-09 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies
who:falk
time:   Thu Aug  9 16:04:23 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Fix typos affecting README generation for the milo disks.


Files:

changed:milodisk.sh


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/make by falk

2001-08-09 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/make
who:falk
time:   Thu Aug  9 16:04:23 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Fix typos affecting README generation for the milo disks.


Files:

changed:alpha.rules


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Re: Alpha bootdisk status

2001-08-09 Thread Falk Hueffner

Istvan Gyenes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 8 Aug 2001, Falk Hueffner wrote:
> 
> > Here are my plans for the Alpha bootdisks:
> >
> > * special Jensen and Nautilus stuff. I can't test this, I can only try
> >   not to break it.
> 
> I'll try to test the Jensen specific booting. As soon as I have time.
> Maybe next week, hope it is not too late.

That would be great!

> Q: Is the EV4 patches applyed to the kernel for the Jensen (traps.c
> patch)?

I don't know; the bootfloppies simply use the kernel from the
kernel-image-2.2.19-jensen package. If you find it is missing an
important patch, please make a bugreport against it.

Falk


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/debian by falk

2001-08-08 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:falk
time:   Wed Aug  8 17:35:13 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Documented Alpha changes.


Files:

changed:changelog


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/make by falk

2001-08-08 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/make
who:falk
time:   Wed Aug  8 16:53:19 PDT 2001


Log Message:

* Automatically download milo binaries and some more tools via wget.
* Adapt for changed milo image names.
* Do generate milo disk images by default.
* Remove "subarch specific kernel" support (except for those that need
  one).
* Disable net boot support since it is broken currently.
* todo: Update for Alpha; mention ash bug #106908.
* Fix fubar'd release.sh.


Files:

changed:alpha.vars


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cvs commit to boot-floppies by falk

2001-08-08 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies
who:falk
time:   Wed Aug  8 16:53:19 PDT 2001


Log Message:

* Automatically download milo binaries and some more tools via wget.
* Adapt for changed milo image names.
* Do generate milo disk images by default.
* Remove "subarch specific kernel" support (except for those that need
  one).
* Disable net boot support since it is broken currently.
* todo: Update for Alpha; mention ash bug #106908.
* Fix fubar'd release.sh.


Files:

changed:Makefile config release.sh todo


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/make by falk

2001-08-08 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/make
who:falk
time:   Wed Aug  8 16:45:55 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Milo images depend on the script that generates them.


Files:

changed:alpha.rules


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/debian by falk

2001-08-08 Thread falk

Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:falk
time:   Wed Aug  8 16:45:16 PDT 2001


Log Message:

Add build dependency on wget for Alpha to download firmware etc.


Files:

changed:control


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