How to set up net-acct with ppp?
I've come to an absolute standstill trying to get the net-acct package to work on our ppp dial-in server. nacctd wants a series of files that have the mapping from usernames to IPs in them. The documentation has a couple of little scripts for slip, but I am using mgetty with ppp, and I cannot see how to get mgetty (or pppd) to create the user/ip files, let alone remove them when the clients logout. I suspect that I'm overlooking something very simple. All the dialin clients have /bin/false as a shell, and the mgetty/ppp setup is pretty close to that provided by the debian packages. There are 32 lines into the server, running through a Comtrol RocketPort card. There is an IP associated with each rocket port. I really only care about accounting the data volume each user generates, as the standard accounting (sac, ac etc) gives the time component. John Foster -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: More diald woes!!!!!
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UPM Update/Request for Comments
Many thanks to all those who provided input and ideas when I originally announced my very minor project. It's to the point now where some fresh points of view/ideas would be nice. For those who may be interested, please check http://users.quicklink.net~/gith/ for the current work done. Read upm-*/work.of.the.day to find out whats going on and feel free to send some constuctive criticism, ideas, or creative solutions for the problems outlined. Please note that this is not meant to be in competition with the Deity project or with the excellent ideas Klee has for dpkg so no flames along those lines. :) - Willie Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.quicklink.net/~gith/ Linux-GGI Project: http://synergy.foo.net/~ggi/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Latest rescue disk locks up Thinkpad
I tried installing frozen on an IBM Thinkpad 760E last night - no success. The rescue disk would boot, load root.bin then linix.bin? and lock up after a bunch of "loading dots". Locked up tight - cold boot time. Tried adding floppy=thinkpad to the boot line, no joy. Something in 2.0.30 perhaps ? I haven't verified it, but I recall that rex (2.0.27?) was able to boot and install without any special parameters. Dean -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Linux 2.1.** kernel support for Intel 82557-based ethernet card?
Thanks for the response on LINUX SUPPORT FOR CABLE MODEMS? Apparently, Linux doesn't have a driver for the Intel 82557-based PCI twisted-pair ethernet card. It looks as thought this is not the same as the EtherExpress Pro/10+ because it uses a different chip (the 82557). Does Linux 2.1.** have such a driver? --- Also, does anyone know what website to check out to get a list of drivers available for Linux or a list of devices supported by the 2.1.** kernel? Thanks. -- Harmon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: More diald woes!!!!!
On Fri, 16 May 1997, Ben White wrote: > Hello all, > > Thanks to those of you who responded to my last desperate cry for help. > I am one step closer in getting my setup working. Currently I use a > Slackware distribution with kernel 1.2.13, but want to upgrade to Debian > to avoid the commercial distributions, and because of its sophisticated > package management. Because of my specific requirements I must have > demand dialing ppp connectivity (which I have working with 1.2.13 > slackware). Here is my current state of affairs: > > > 0) I am using Debian 1.2, kernel 2.0.27 (or close to that > > 1) can connect with commandline invocation of pppd Would this be pon or pppd connect etc? > > 2) diald installed, and tries to bring up the link appropriately > > 3) chat dials and logs in, pppd is started > > 4) from modem lights the remote is sending packets and pppd is > not responding What does ifconfig say at this point about ppp0? > > 5) after 20 sec diald times out pppd and kills it > > 6) the ppp.log file then prints > > May 14 00:30:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 > May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal diald[387]: pppd startup timed out. Check > your p > ppd options. Killing pppd. > May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: Terminating on signal 2. > May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: Failed to open /dev/ttyS1: > Interrupte > d system call This tells me that pppd is trying to gain controle of ttyS1 which is wrong. Even though you said that you only have debug in your ppp.options file you have told pppd to use this tty on the command line or in the diald options file. >From the diald man page: WARNING: Note that some pppd commands should not be specified, not even in the /etc/ppp/options file, because they will interfere with the proper operation of diald. In particular you should not specify the tty device, the baud rate, nor any of the options crtscts, xonxoff, -crtscts, defaultroute, lock, netmask, -detach, modem, local, mtu and proxyarp. Use the equivalent diald commands to control these pppd settings. It seems what you have is diald in control of the tty. It starts pppd and waits for pppd to start xferring packets with the remote host. pppd is waiting to get controle of the tty, because it was told to do so someplace. Because pppd seems to be stuck diald kills it and attempts to redial. I hope this helps. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Colorado Parallel port tape
Nathan E Norman wrote: > > Take the case apart - there's an internal tape drive, power > supply, and floppy controller in the case. Remove the internal drive > and install it in your system ... viola! A usable tape drive. I knew that the Trakker had a Jumbo inside, but I didn't know this was possible! I'll have to try it someday. > This isn't what you wanted? Well, that's life in the world of MS > specific hardware. No, you can't blame this one on MS. > Actually, the reason you can't use the external is because of that > floppy interface in the case ... the parallel port serves as a link to > that interface. I don't know if it uses a proprietary protocol or if > it's just a bear to implement, but no-one's done it under Linux that I > know of. There's an ASIC in the case that has a proprietary interface. A few years ago I finally tracked down somebody at HP that knew what the situation was. They had me sign a non-disclosure agreement and sent me the doc showing how to program the interface. I had planned to try to cannibalize the ftape driver to make it work but never got around to it. I couldn't give it to anybody if I had, though. Now, with my 6.5GB of disk to back up, the 125MB (uncompressed) tape capacity is pretty useless anyway. :-( Still, I might try installing it internally as you suggested. -- ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bug#9826: lprng: lprng: wrong paths in /usr/sbin/lpd
On Fri, 16 May 1997, Mirek Kwasniak wrote: > I have very busy server and cann't it restart until last night. > Problem that I found is more general. > I think, Debian distribution should be able upgrade running system without > complete rebooting. Are you saying that there is no way for you to restart lprng without rebooting? The only changes you can make to a system that require a reboot are kernel changes. I can shutdown every daemon on my system and restart them again using the proper SIG's and kill. For the most part init 1 and back restarts everything too. The rest of this lengthy report is null and void since joost pointed out that the bug was fixed. Just get the new package. --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
More diald woes!!!!!
Hello all, Thanks to those of you who responded to my last desperate cry for help. I am one step closer in getting my setup working. Currently I use a Slackware distribution with kernel 1.2.13, but want to upgrade to Debian to avoid the commercial distributions, and because of its sophisticated package management. Because of my specific requirements I must have demand dialing ppp connectivity (which I have working with 1.2.13 slackware). Here is my current state of affairs: 0) I am using Debian 1.2, kernel 2.0.27 (or close to that 1) can connect with commandline invocation of pppd 2) diald installed, and tries to bring up the link appropriately 3) chat dials and logs in, pppd is started 4) from modem lights the remote is sending packets and pppd is not responding 5) after 20 sec diald times out pppd and kills it 6) the ppp.log file then prints May 14 00:30:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal diald[387]: pppd startup timed out. Check your p ppd options. Killing pppd. May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: Terminating on signal 2. May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: Failed to open /dev/ttyS1: Interrupte d system call May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: Exit. May 14 00:31:14 whitehouselocal diald[387]: Delaying 10 seconds before clear to dial. May 14 00:32:38 whitehouselocal diald[387]: SIGTERM. Termination request receive d. This output is with a /etc/ppp/options file that contains only "debug." I have read the discussions of /dev/cua* v. /dev/ttyS* and am using ttyS1. So here I am. My setup requires a demand-dialing system as my linux box provides internet access for several other computers connected to a local ethernet. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: how to safely install libc6
Caution: Some of this stuff is guestimating the libc6 changes. On Fri, 16 May 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: > On 15 May 1997, Ed Donovan wrote: > > > I have not installed libc6 yet, and right now my compiles fail. All > > the binaries generated give "No such file or directory" errors, > > because they can't link, I believe. I hesitate to go ahead and install > > the libc6 packages, though, if things might become more unstable. I'd > > like to build a new kernel at the moment, and wouldn't want to do so > > with a C library that wasn't ready for prime time. ld.so has nothing to do with compiling. I suspect the problem here is either the "-L /usr/lib" type entries in the Makefile are wrong for library search path for the compilers "ld" linker (not ld.so) or the software you are trying to compile has been developed with libc6 in mind or you have the new compiler which may have default changes to libc6 linking instead of libc5. Since libc6 is going to be the standard very shortly, it's very possible that you are compilling libc6 dependant code. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't hamm supposed to be mostly, if not all, libc6 software? > it's safe to have the shared libraries for libc6 and libc5 installed > at the same time, just as it was safe to have both libc4 and libc5 > installed. It only gets complicated when you want to do development for > both libc5 and libc6 on the same machine. I believe that installing hamm (unstable) would insure that the 2 development environments are seperate but equally accessable, since it is the intermediate release between libc5 and libc6 standards. I also suspect that libc5 and libc6, like a.out and ELF, will be co-existing on systems for some time before libc5 is finally completely phased out. Bottom line: Check your Makfiles and gcc/ld man pages for references to libc6 changes. --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mouse
Mark Bathie wrote: > > Just a simple question. How do i instally my mouse for use with debian & > X11. Please don't RTFM. > Thanx. > Ok, I won't RTFM. You probably ought to, however. -- Nathan Norman:Hostmaster CFNI:[EMAIL PROTECTED] finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key and other stuff Key fingerprint = CE 03 10 AF 32 81 18 58 9D 32 C2 AB 93 6D C4 72 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Colorado Parallel port tape
Take the case apart - there's an internal tape drive, power supply, and floppy controller in the case. Remove the internal drive and install it in your system ... viola! A usable tape drive. This isn't what you wanted? Well, that's life in the world of MS specific hardware. I have a T-1000e so I have gone through all of this BS. Actually, the reason you can't use the external is because of that floppy interface in the case ... the parallel port serves as a link to that interface. I don't know if it uses a proprietary protocol or if it's just a bear to implement, but no-one's done it under Linux that I know of. -- Nathan Norman:Hostmaster CFNI:[EMAIL PROTECTED] finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key and other stuff Key fingerprint = CE 03 10 AF 32 81 18 58 9D 32 C2 AB 93 6D C4 72 -- On Fri, 16 May 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: :Stan Brown wrote: :> :> How can I use a HP/Coloroda rape drive that connets to the parallel :> port with my Deboan system? :> : :>From the Ftape HOWTO : : ftape-HOWTO : Kevin Johnson, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : v1.9, 20 September 1996 for ftape-2.08 : : [ SNIP ] : : 5.3. Un-supported tape drives : : · All drives that connect to the parallel port (eg: Colorado Trakker) : : · Irwin AX250L / Accutrak 250. (not a QIC-80 drive) : : :-- :Jens B. Jorgensen :[EMAIL PROTECTED] : : :-- :TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to :[EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? :e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . : -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Need Help with Ensoniq Soundscape VIVO90
Steve Martin wrote: > > rick wrote: > Help: > > I have a new gw2k PP200 system with a (gw2k) Ensoniq Soundscape VIVO90 > (PnP) sound card. What do I need to do to configure my kernel to support > this card? I am using the 2.0.30 kernel pkg. > > Do I need to use isapnptools, (if so how)? > > Looking at the bios setup it looks like PnP configuration is setup to be > configured by OS software (win95), but there is another option that cam > be selected. I do not want to make any changes that will break the sound > support under win95 as I sometimes am forced to use it. > I have the exact same card. In my setup, my BIOS is also PNP aware, and actually the BIOS sets up the card. All I had to do was look at the device resources in Win95 to find out what IRQs, IO, and such were in use, and then set the parameters in my kernel config (I don't use a loadable module). There's support for the Enson. soundscape. Works like a charm. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dSELECT
On Fri, 16 May 1997, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: > Dselect does show all the dependencies. The problem is that dselect > isn't installing packages in the right order automatically. A successor > to dselect is in the works that will do better in this respect: the > deity project. So. The answer would be to recycle the install step a couple of time and dselect will get the job done. > My manual approach is the following. I start by picking an important > package I need, try to install that manually using > dpkg --install > This fails. In the error message I can see on what other packages this > package predepends. Then I try to install these packages again using > dpkg --install ... Usually I have some luck that certain packages > install. Sometimes conflicting packages have to be removed using dpkg > --purge. If I succeed to install the particular package I picked, I go > back to dselect, select the other packages, and see if it will work this > time. If you have all the files you need, usually one or two cycles > will do most of the trick. Packages you will want to install are in > stable/binary and stable/binary-all. The files called `Packages.gz' > contain the information which file names correspond to what package. > Note that some packages are provided by others. This information is > also in the Packages.gz files. > and would be very welcome indeed. Procedures like I described above are > probably a bit too much for unix newbies, and we shouldn't scare > beginners away from Debian IMO. I agree. So what was the reason for posting this? This guy said he IS a new comer, why did you post this? I suspect he's more clued in than most new comers. But what about a clueless new comer? He wouldn't have any idea what you just told him to do. All that needed to be said was to recycle through the install step. Sorry to bit*h about this, but it's almost every day that a new comer asks about dselect and dependancies. There are always dpkg answers that aren't needed to answer the question. The goal is to make the transition to linux and Debian in particular as easy as possible for new comers. Confusing them with strings of dpkg commands when dselect fails to do something defeats the purpose. A new comer doesn't even know what dpkg is. --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dSELECT
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Peter Ginsberg wrote: > As for the packages, I decided that it would be easiest for me to d/l > the important stuff, or at least as much as I could, and install from a > zip disk. I didnt have a problem getting dselect to read the zip disks > nor the packages contained therein. In fact, many of the packages > installed > smoothly. Some of them, however, did not. Most of my problems were with > xwindows files, Ill try to boil this down to some questions. dselect will do the down loading for you. Which would be the easiest way to insure that what is needed is actually retrieved instead of ftping files by hand and using dselect to install from local hard drive. You will undoubtedly hear suggestion for using dpkg with a bunch of (probably varying) arg's to acomplish this. Some people run into one problem as you have and go to the command line use od dpkg to solve thier problems. Sometimes that is needed. It isn't in your case. All but the strange error about the xserver are common. All you have to do is go through the install process more than once. It will install things gradually until everything is installed. Takes maybe 2 extra rounds in install. Why anybody would think it best to tell a new comer to resort to command line use is beyond me. That opens a whole new can of worms. I wish you people would answer a dselect question with a dselect answer not a dpkg answer unless that is the only alternative. If a person is familiar enough with linux to run dpkg with args to acomplish what dselect does anyway. They are good enough to look in the man pages and doc's on dselect and that would lead them to dpkg which they could read up on and get it done on their own. If that's the way they want to do it. By telling a person to use dpkg you are just saying that "I don't know how to do that with dselect, you should be using dpkg anyway, come over to the dark side Luke, use dpkg..." The person is asking about dselect, not dpkg. If I ask a sendmail question on the list I don't expect a "use smail and do this..." answer unless that is the only way to get it done. --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Need Help with Ensoniq Soundscape VIVO90
You are in luck 2day! I have an Ensoniq Soundscape ViVo90 PnP card, with a Debian Linux 1.2 system. Kernel 2.0.29. I have gotten everything except for midi to work. I just played around until I got it right, or partially so. (because the sound doc's said the Soundscape card I had was not yet supported.) I did have to use isapnptools to initialize the card. (I am going by memory here, if ya want me to dig through the details to be sure, or maybe we can both do more to make my midi work too... contact me by private email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I got the isapnptools debian package, from somewhere, then put it in the place where unknown packages go for the "ftp install" feature of debian. then ran package manager, and finally got isapnptools installed. then i ran somthing or other from the pnptools to generate the pnptools config file, which lists every possibility of settings for all your pnp cards. Luckily I only have 2 sound card and modem. (and my modem obviously works perfectly !!! :)) The modem also is one of the new kind that sounds thru sound card instead of it's own buzzer, and after the pnptoolz fix, I could finally hear the modem dial! b4, it would dial, but I couldn't hear it.) Ok next you gotta go through the generated config file and uncomment the lines that contain the settings that you want to use. I also run Win95, so I let it do all the work of dealing out the irq's and such. I then went into the hardware profile and made notes on which cards had what irq, dma, io, etc. then went back in Linux, edited the isapnptools config file accordingly to uncomment the correct lines. then I set up the isapnptools to run at startup by doing something to one of the /etc/rc.d directories. You're smart, you werk at Cray, you can do it!!! :P Oh someone also told me i had to do extra initialization with a short proggie called ssinit.c with a flash rom file, but I never could get the damned thing to work. Probably didn't have the right rom file. So I've never fooled with it again. I can hear my Modem dial thru speakers, Au's playing from the web and even WAV files, so something is working. By Grace from Linus maybe. And don't FUCK with the BIOS setup, except to turn off SHADOW RAM, Linux does a better job of totally reworking the BIOS code anyway, so why shadow substandard code when U can replace it ALTOGHTHER! =) You can Leave the "Plug and Play OS" setting to "YES" it seems to werk fer me!! Oh yeah, next month (June 7th and 8th) is Atlanta Linux Showcase '97. Be there or be uncool. Linus is gonna give a talk about the innards of the kernel. and Maddog from DEC gonna talk too about the Alpha port. And one of the Sparc porters will be there too. (Miguel de Icaza - also gave us Midnight Commander) check it out here: http://www.ale.org/showcase/ I'm gonna be there R U :)) R. Brock Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] USM (Home of the Glenda Project, the Free version of Linda) Contact Ray Seyfarth at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info! He's my prof. Steve Martin wrote: > > rick wrote: > Help: > > I have a new gw2k PP200 system with a (gw2k) Ensoniq Soundscape VIVO90 > (PnP) sound card. What do I need to do to configure my kernel to support > this card? I am using the 2.0.30 kernel pkg. > > Do I need to use isapnptools, (if so how)? > > Looking at the bios setup it looks like PnP configuration is setup to be > configured by OS software (win95), but there is another option that cam > be selected. I do not want to make any changes that will break the sound > support under win95 as I sometimes am forced to use it. > > -- > Steven J. MartinCray Research, a Silicon Graphics Company. > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? > e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mouse
Mark Bathie wrote: > > Just a simple question. How do i instally my mouse for use with debian & > X11. Please don't RTFM. > Thanx. > We can help. However I am constantly amazed that people come asking questions about how they can get X to work without supplying any specific information. My simple answer to to your simple question: put the proper lines in the X server configuration file. Just as this answer is meaningless and unhelpful to you, your question is meaningless and unhelpful to someone who might try to help you without detailed information. Anyway. First we need to know what kind of mouse you have. Does it connect through the serial port? through your ATI video card? through a MS Busmouse card? througe a little 9-pin round connector next to your keyboard connector? -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Location of "sc" spreadsheet
Does anybody know if the "sc" spreadsheet is available for Debian? I cannot find it anywhere. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Friends are relatives that you make for yourself. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Colorado Parallel port tape
Stan Brown wrote: > > How can I use a HP/Coloroda rape drive that connets to the parallel > port with my Deboan system? > >From the Ftape HOWTO ftape-HOWTO Kevin Johnson, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> v1.9, 20 September 1996 for ftape-2.08 [ SNIP ] 5.3. Un-supported tape drives · All drives that connect to the parallel port (eg: Colorado Trakker) · Irwin AX250L / Accutrak 250. (not a QIC-80 drive) -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Need Help with Ensoniq Soundscape VIVO90
rick wrote: Help: I have a new gw2k PP200 system with a (gw2k) Ensoniq Soundscape VIVO90 (PnP) sound card. What do I need to do to configure my kernel to support this card? I am using the 2.0.30 kernel pkg. Do I need to use isapnptools, (if so how)? Looking at the bios setup it looks like PnP configuration is setup to be configured by OS software (win95), but there is another option that cam be selected. I do not want to make any changes that will break the sound support under win95 as I sometimes am forced to use it. -- Steven J. MartinCray Research, a Silicon Graphics Company. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
QDDB on Debian?
Is there somebody who can help me configuring qddb to run on Debian Linux? Johann. Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsorlaan 19 Pietermaritzburg 3201 Suid Afrika (South Africa) Tel. Nr. 0331-46-1310 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
emacs in python-mode?
I installed python. Although the documentation refers to emacs in python-mode, I could not get my emacs to see the python-el file (I also installed python-elisp_1.4.0-4.deb. Can somebody help please? Johann. Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsorlaan 19 Pietermaritzburg 3201 Suid Afrika (South Africa) Tel. Nr. 0331-46-1310 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
filerunner broken?
I installed filerunner_2.2.1-1.deb from /contrib (I think it was from
hamm) and when I run it, the following error message comes up :
can't read "version": no such variable
while executing
"if {$glob(version) != $version} {
About
if {$version != "0.0"} {
ViewText $glob(lib_fr)/HISTORY
}
set r [catch {
set fid [ ..."
(procedure "ShowRev" line 7)
invoked from within
"ShowRev"
(file "/usr/bin/X11/fr" line 3054)
Did anybody have success with filerunner?
Johann.
Johann Spies
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Pietermaritzburg
3201
Suid Afrika (South Africa)
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Re: mouse
On Fri, 16 May 1997, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:
> > Just a simple question. What does RTFM mean? I lost my code book.
>
> File: jargon.info, Node: RTFM, Next: RTFS, Prev: RTFB, Up: = R =
>
> :RTFM: /R-T-F-M/ /imp./ [Unix] Acronym for `Read The Fucking
>Manual'. 1. Used by {guru}s to brush off questions they
>consider trivial or annoying. Compare {Don't do that, then!}.
>2. Used when reporting a problem to indicate that you aren't just
>asking out of {randomness}. "No, I can't figure out how to
>interface Unix to my toaster, and yes, I have RTFM." Unlike
>sense 1, this use is considered polite. See also {FM},
>{RTFAQ}, {RTFB}, {RTFS}, {RTM}, all of which mutated
>from RTFM, and compare {UTSL}.
>
> More interesting hacker usage can be found in the jargon info file,
> which is in its own debian package. Highly recommended. A lot of
> FAQ-s are found on an ftp-site actually called rtfm.mit.edu. Also
> worth a visit.
This helps, but leads me to wonder: I have an IBM keyboard and it has a
row of keys labeled F1F12?
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Re: Connecting terminals
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Pilon wrote: > I need to connect two terminals to my Linux box, I have in my inittab > file: > > s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS0 vt100 > s2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS1 vt100 > > > The login prompt appears well in my terminals; but when I try to login I > can't do it. What, exactly, happens? > > Can someone help me? One possible suggestion (I had this problem) if you can, change the number of stop bits the terminal is expecting from 2 to 1. The login program resets the stop bits from 2 down to 1 when it takes the line from getty. This is a reported bug in login. The terminals I was using could only deal with 2 stop bits, so I had to add some stuff in /etc/profile to check for the serial port in question and then issue an 'stty cstopb' to put the stop bits back to 2. I also set row and col so that joe and lynx would function properly. Ae has some problems with the arrow keys as well as others I don't remember. With this settup I still got a "garbage" password prompt, but could log in anyway and after entering the password, the output from the host was again readable. This area still needs some work, so keep us informed of your progress. Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Connecting terminals
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Pilon wrote: > I need to connect two terminals to my Linux box, I have in my inittab > file: > > s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS0 vt100 > s2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS1 vt100 > > > The login prompt appears well in my terminals; but when I try to login I > can't do it. > > Can someone help me? Looks like the cable or terminal options are not proper for hardware flow control. The following works for my HP 200LX palmtop with a wireless infrared link. This is necessary because the host does not get carrier detect from the port. s2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L 19200 ttyS1 vt100 If that works, then you may want to find an RS-232 breakout box and use the status lights and jumpers to nail down the proper cable pinout. In the olden days, I couldn't be caught without one. There were so many variations between serial devices and host ports. You may be able to run fine with the -L option if your terminal has adequate buffer memory or you drop the baud rate. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide! + +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: LINUX SUPPORT FOR CABLE-MODEMS?
I am fortunate enough recently become a subscriber to Time-Warner's RoadRunner Cable modem service. I have not actually gotten around to setting things up to work with Linux yet, but I have been looking into what it would take to do it, and here is what I believe to be true so far. RoadRunner, in my area at least, uses DHCP to assign IP addresses. So, while the chances are quite good that the address assigned to you me remain fairly constant there is no, garauntee that it will be completley static due to DHCP's lease times. At any rate, DHCP client support will be need under Linux to get an IP address dynamically assigned. My RoadRunner service also uses Kerberos for authentication. So Kerberos support in Linux is needed for negotiation of passwords and such. I believe both of these peices to the puzzle exist under Debian. Please correct me if I am wong. As soon as I get some "spare" time get my cable modem to work under Linux because even under Windoze, it is **FAST** Hope this helps... Ron Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote: > > Hi all. > > A "cable modem" has just been installed on my computer, and I would > like to use it under Linux: > > 1) The card that was installed on my computer is a 10base-T (twisted pair) > ethernet card -- "Intel 82557-based PCI Ethernet card". Does the Linux kernel > currently have a driver for this card? On a fresh install of Debian, I did > not see a driver for this card listed in the driver configuration portion of > the install ... > > 2) The cable-modem hookup supports dynamic IP-address assignment (though > I'm supposed to get the same IP address each time the modem powers on). > Is there a way to get the Linux ethernet support to "read" its IP address, > say, at boot time? > > Thanks (very much) in advance for any info. :-) > > -- Harmon > > -- > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- --=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-===-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- Ron Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone:(607)770-3701 Fax:(607)770-2056 Lockheed Martin Control Systems 600 Main St Johnson City, NY 13790-1888 --=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-===-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ELF header message with modutils 2.1.34
I just upgraded to modutils 2.1.34, hoping it would correctly analyze the dependencies of my /lib/modules/misc directory (for example); instead depmod -a gives me modprobe: error reading ELF header: No such file or directory if the misc directory (from the kernel version, ie path[misc]=/lib/modules/`uname -r` is included in conf.modules. Using 2.0.30. thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust[EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://yallara.cs.rmit.edu.au/~moffatt (PGP key here) CPOM: [ ] 45% -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
DEC vt420
> hello, > > I am wanting to use a DEC vt420 terminal with my linux box, what is the > best way to connect the terminal to linux? > > thanks > Syd You need to use a null modem cable. Try using the "screen" program if you have problems. To change some of the settings, press F3 on the DEC. HTH Adrian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Artifical intelligence - the www.netforward.com/poboxes/?Adrian.Bridgett | art of making computers act PGP key available on public key servers | like those in the movies -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dSELECT
> Ill start this off with the usual caveats, Im new to linux in general, > as well as debian. My problems, however, seem to be with the dselect > program. I have read the minimal help pages within dselect, as well > as the linux install faqs and the (frankly next-to-useless) dselect > beginner file. I also checked the debian-user archives, and while I found > a lot > of problems with dselect, none of the solutions fixed mine. > > The system Im using: (Im pretty sure this is irrelevent)- > TI TM6020 notebook, P120, 8 Mgs, Active Color,... > > I installed the base off of dos disks and everything went very, very > smoothly (For some reason, I thought that was going to be the > hard part, guess not). > > As for the packages, I decided that it would be easiest for me to d/l > the important stuff, or at least as much as I could, and install from a > zip disk. I didnt have a problem getting dselect to read the zip disks > nor the packages contained therein. In fact, many of the packages > installed > smoothly. Some of them, however, did not. Most of my problems were with > xwindows files, Ill try to boil this down to some questions. > > 1. When installing I got pre-dependency and other dependency errors... > shouldnt dselect have told me about these _before_ it started installing? > This isnt exactly intuitive (nor is it in any help files Ive seen). Before > you > respond with the obvious, yes, all of the files which I had selected, > were, in > fact, on the zip disk. Why isnt dselect showing ALL the dependencies? Dselect does show all the dependencies. The problem is that dselect isn't installing packages in the right order automatically. A successor to dselect is in the works that will do better in this respect: the deity project. It is possible to change the order of installation in dsleect, but I never got around to understanding how to do that, or even to understand from within dselect what the order should be. My manual approach is the following. I start by picking an important package I need, try to install that manually using dpkg --install This fails. In the error message I can see on what other packages this package predepends. Then I try to install these packages again using dpkg --install ... Usually I have some luck that certain packages install. Sometimes conflicting packages have to be removed using dpkg --purge. If I succeed to install the particular package I picked, I go back to dselect, select the other packages, and see if it will work this time. If you have all the files you need, usually one or two cycles will do most of the trick. Packages you will want to install are in stable/binary and stable/binary-all. The files called `Packages.gz' contain the information which file names correspond to what package. Note that some packages are provided by others. This information is also in the Packages.gz files. I agree this is not what you would call `painless package instalation/upgrade', so all moral support (maybe more) should go to the deity project. On the other hand, writing an extension to dselect to properly sort the packages should be a smaller project than deity is, and would be very welcome indeed. Procedures like I described above are probably a bit too much for unix newbies, and we shouldn't scare beginners away from Debian IMO. Eric Meijer -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mouse
> Just a simple question. What does RTFM mean? I lost my code book.
File: jargon.info, Node: RTFM, Next: RTFS, Prev: RTFB, Up: = R =
:RTFM: /R-T-F-M/ /imp./ [Unix] Acronym for `Read The Fucking
Manual'. 1. Used by {guru}s to brush off questions they
consider trivial or annoying. Compare {Don't do that, then!}.
2. Used when reporting a problem to indicate that you aren't just
asking out of {randomness}. "No, I can't figure out how to
interface Unix to my toaster, and yes, I have RTFM." Unlike
sense 1, this use is considered polite. See also {FM},
{RTFAQ}, {RTFB}, {RTFS}, {RTM}, all of which mutated
from RTFM, and compare {UTSL}.
More interesting hacker usage can be found in the jargon info file,
which is in its own debian package. Highly recommended. A lot of
FAQ-s are found on an ftp-site actually called rtfm.mit.edu. Also
worth a visit.
Eric Meijer
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Re: missed cron jobs
On Thu, May 15, 1997 at 04:38:11PM +0200, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: > running `find' (it's amazing, isn't it ? :). I soon realized that this > was cron running the cron.daily scripts. I never thought about this > before, but it may very well have been the first time these scripts > were run, my computer at home is usually switched off at this time. > Now comes my question: > > Could this be harmful? > > I think a lot of people using linux at home don't leave their computer > switched on continuously. Has anyone ever thought of a system that > would spot missed cron events and run them at a later time? Would this > be useful at all? anacron does this very nicely. From memory, when first installed (it is available for debian) it doesn't actually do anything, but it is easy enough to move the cron.daily, weekly, monthly scripts to run from anacron instead of cron; then things get run once a day only, but definatel (if the PC is used at all that day). Very nice. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust[EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://yallara.cs.rmit.edu.au/~moffatt (PGP key here) CPOM: [ ] 45% -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Connecting terminals
I need to connect two terminals to my Linux box, I have in my inittab file: s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS0 vt100 s2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS1 vt100 The login prompt appears well in my terminals; but when I try to login I can't do it. Can someone help me? # # inittab This file describes how the INIT process should set up # the system in a certain run-level. # # Version: @(#)inittab 2.0417/05/93MvS # 2.1002/10/95PV # # Author: Miquel van Smoorenburg, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> # Modified by: Patrick J. Volkerding, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> # # Default runlevel. id:3:initdefault: # System initialization (runs when system boots). si:S:sysinit:/etc/rc.d/rc.S # Script to run when going single user (runlevel 1). su:1S:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc.K # Script to run when going multi user. rc:23456:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc.M # What to do at the "Three Finger Salute". ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t5 -rfn now # Runlevel 0 halts the system. l0:0:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc.0 # Runlevel 6 reboots the system. l6:6:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc.6 # What to do when power fails (shutdown to single user). pf::powerfail:/sbin/shutdown -f +5 "THE POWER IS FAILING" # If power is back before shutdown, cancel the running shutdown. pg:0123456:powerokwait:/sbin/shutdown -c "THE POWER IS BACK" # If power comes back in single user mode, return to multi user mode. ps:S:powerokwait:/sbin/init 5 # The getties in multi user mode on consoles an serial lines. # # NOTE NOTE NOTE adjust this to your getty or you will not be #able to login !! # # Note: for 'agetty' you use linespeed, line. # for 'getty_ps' you use line, linespeed and also use 'gettydefs' c1:1235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux c2:1235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux c3:1235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux c4:1235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux c5:1235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux c6:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux # Serial lines #s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS0 vt100 #s2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS1 vt100 # # ojo-provisional # #s2:456:respawn:/sbin/uugetty 9600 ttyS1 vt100 # # Dialup lines #d1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -mt60 38400,19200,9600,2400,1200 ttyS0 vt100 #d2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -mt60 38400,19200,9600,2400,1200 ttyS1 vt100 # Runlevel 4 used to be for an X-window only system, until we discovered # that it throws init into a loop that keeps your load avg at least 1 all # the time. Thus, there is now one getty opened on tty6. Hopefully no one # will notice. ;^) # It might not be bad to have one text console anyway, in case something # happens to X. x1:4:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc.4 # End of /etc/inittab
Re: Will ATI 3D Rage chips work with XFree86?
On 15 May, Rick Macdonald wrote: Re: R. Chris Ross wrote: Re: > Re: > I wondered if the D3 Rage chip set boards would work with Re: > XFree86. They are supposed to be quite hot and someone offered to Re: > trade me a Wincharge for one even up. Re: Re: I have an ATI Graphics Pro Turbo Mach64 (4MB VRAM) in my Pentium 133. Re: Re: The wife needs a PC so she's getting mine I'm getting a P200MMX Re: with the newer ATI 3D Graphics Pro Turbo (4MB SDRAM, I think), with all Re: that PC2TV stuff. This has the 3D Rage chip set. Re: Re: I've been assuming that the 3D Rage wasn't supported yet and was going Re: to keep the old card in the new machine. Re: Re: I don't even know which board is faster. Anybody? Re: Re: Maybe I should grab the new 3D GPT once the chipset is supported in Re: XFree? If my memories are correctl then the 3D Rage _is_ supported in XFree 3.2 and the 3D Rage II in XFree 3.2A... 3.2A is not available as a .deb package, but I've seen several reports of people simply replacing the Mach64 Xserver binary from 3.2 with the one from 3.2A. Haven't tried this myself, but did do a similar thing under Slackware last fall (3.1.2->3.1.2F) so it'd seem reasonable... /Michael -- |Linux: Turn on...Tune in...Fork out... | |Michael Tempsch, member of Ballistic Wizards, TIP#088, TDGP#20 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Cell.Phone:+46 705487554 URL:http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d1temp | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: how get smail to have a default domainname?
uhm ... visible_name=usc.edu in /etc/smail/config or wherever your config file is should do it. On 15 May 1997, Terrence M. Brannon wrote: > > I want smail to send mail with a default domainname of usc.edu but > putting the line > > domains=usc.edu > > in /etc/smail.config does not allow this. > > -- > oo Sending unsolicited commercial e-mail (UCE) to this address > Legal Notice is indication of your consent to pay me $120/hour for 1 hour > oo minimum for professional proofreading & technical assessment. > terrence brannon * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://rana.usc.edu:8376/~brannon > > > -- > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > > George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: LINUX SUPPORT FOR CABLE-MODEMS?
Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote: > > Hi all. > > A "cable modem" has just been installed on my computer, and I would > like to use it under Linux: > > 1) The card that was installed on my computer is a 10base-T (twisted pair) > ethernet card -- "Intel 82557-based PCI Ethernet card". Does the Linux kernel > currently have a driver for this card? On a fresh install of Debian, I did > not see a driver for this card listed in the driver configuration portion of > the install ... What you are describing is the Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+. This uses the eepro loadable module. HOWEVER, the module which came w/ the 1.2 distribution is either broken or not up to date. Find the author of the program, compile and load according to his instructions and everything should go fine. I had this driver working under Red Hat 4.1 before I blew it away for not having development tools that work. If anyone is listening, the eepro module needs to be fixed before 1.3 goes out or nobody using Comcasts @home network will be able to connect. <\flame on> Speaking of which, Comcast's @home network is NOT linux friendly. They have deliberately rigged their home page (through which all requests and information pass) to only respond to either Macintosh or Windows versions of Netscape. I have informed several executive types that this was an arbitrary and unreasonable decision w/ no response. I plan to configure Mosaic to spoof their site. Mosaic has a feature which allows you to tell a server that you are a different client type than you actually are. I haven't gotten around to figuring out the codes yet. At any rate, if you are with Comcast's @home, don't plan on seeing the actual web site. Something comes up which says "Sorry we can't show you the actual speed of our network..." because you are using Linux. <\flame off> -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: how to safely install libc6
Caution: Don't take any of the following as 'the truth'. it's mostly guesses i've made from reading docs and from experimenting on my systems. On 15 May 1997, Ed Donovan wrote: > Here's a slightly old thread I'm continuing; I'm very curious how > people are dealing with this. I usually follow 'unstable,' in part > because it largely is quite stable. I hold off on things that look > like more trouble, like libc6. Much advice recommends not using it yet > on important systems. I tried to avoid it, but fell for ldso 1.9.2, > not realizing it (apparently) commits me to the libc6 development > environment. I don't think that's the case. ldso doesn't depend on either libc5-dev or libc6-dev. According to the notes in /usr/doc/ld.so the only major incompatibility is with a.out (libc4) programs. My reading of the notes indicates that it cant even run a.out binaries any more, but i might have misread that. > I have not installed libc6 yet, and right now my compiles fail. All > the binaries generated give "No such file or directory" errors, > because they can't link, I believe. I hesitate to go ahead and install > the libc6 packages, though, if things might become more unstable. I'd > like to build a new kernel at the moment, and wouldn't want to do so > with a C library that wasn't ready for prime time. it's safe to have the shared libraries for libc6 and libc5 installed at the same time, just as it was safe to have both libc4 and libc5 installed. It only gets complicated when you want to do development for both libc5 and libc6 on the same machine. suggestion: install libc6, libc5, libc5-dev (and other libc5 development stuff(*)), and ldso-1.9.2. don't install libc6-dev (or related stuff) or the altdev-libc5 stuff. You'll have to either install stuff manually with dpkg or put quite a few packages on HOLD status with dselect. Doing this will give you a system capabale of developing for libc5, and also capable of running libc6 programs. Alternatively, a libc6 development system which can also run libc5 programs. Or if you have two debian boxes make one of each. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be libc6 compatible versions of ncurses-dev and other important dev packages yet...maybe they just haven't arrived on my mirror...maybe the intention is that altdev-libc5 provides libc5-dev to satisfy ncurses-dev's dependancy. (*) 'stuff (noun): highly technical term meaning "thingies"' :-) craig -- craig sanders networking consultant Available for casual or contract temporary autonomous zone system administration tasks. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mouse
On Fri, 16 May 1997, Mark Bathie wrote: > Just a simple question. How do i instally my mouse for use with debian & > X11. Please don't RTFM. > Thanx. If it's a serial port mouse install the gpm package first. If that works then configure X11 for your system. Just a simple question. What does RTFM mean? I lost my code book. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide! + +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
mouse
Just a simple question. How do i instally my mouse for use with debian & X11. Please don't RTFM. Thanx. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: LINUX SUPPORT FOR CABLE-MODEMS?
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote: > > Hi all. > > A "cable modem" has just been installed on my computer, and I would > like to use it under Linux: > > 1) The card that was installed on my computer is a 10base-T (twisted pair) > ethernet card -- "Intel 82557-based PCI Ethernet card". Does the Linux kernel > currently have a driver for this card? On a fresh install of Debian, I did > not see a driver for this card listed in the driver configuration portion of > the install ... > > 2) The cable-modem hookup supports dynamic IP-address assignment (though > I'm supposed to get the same IP address each time the modem powers on). > Is there a way to get the Linux ethernet support to "read" its IP address, > say, at boot time? The question is: Is the cable modem using standard ethernet. Sometimes Intel chipsets are used in nonstandard ways, such as reduced clock rates. This is what I can tell you about Ethernet compatibility. I can boot a given machine to Linux, win3.x, or w95 and use TCP/IP over Ethernet. With all 3 operating systems I can access the internet via another Linux box which has a modem and is configured to serve as a gateway/router or expensive Cisco routers with T-1 bandwidth. In both win3.x and win95 the standard Microsoft drivers are used. So if the cable modem is usable with standard Microsoft drivers, it will probably work with Linux. If there is no Linux driver for the card, try a card that is widely supported. I paid $18 for new ethernet cards last year. If you always get the same IP address, then it is static. Write it down and use it as your machine IP for Linux. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide! + +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: missed cron jobs
On Thu, 15 May 1997, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: > This morning I worked on my home debian system at a very early time > (for me, that is), from 6:30 a.m on. All of a sudden my hard disk > begins to crackle, opening a new window takes longer than normal (I > have a lowly 486DX100), and after starting top I see that `nobody' is -- It's not actually harmful. Debian runs a cron job daily, at around 6:42 a.m. and one of the invoked is a find script. This script grinds your harddisk for all files in your harddisk and puts it in a file called locatedb. Very useful if you use the program locate a lot (like me.). > I think a lot of people using linux at home don't leave their computer > switched on continuously. Has anyone ever thought of a system that > would spot missed cron events and run them at a later time? Would this > be useful at all? none that i can think of. But you can reschedule your cronjobs at a time where you usually use your computer. regards, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Andre M. Varon Lasaltech, Incorported Technical Head Fax-Tel: (034)433-3520 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] web page: http://www.lasaltech.com/andre.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
how get smail to have a default domainname?
I want smail to send mail with a default domainname of usc.edu but putting the line domains=usc.edu in /etc/smail.config does not allow this. -- oo Sending unsolicited commercial e-mail (UCE) to this address Legal Notice is indication of your consent to pay me $120/hour for 1 hour oo minimum for professional proofreading & technical assessment. terrence brannon * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://rana.usc.edu:8376/~brannon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: how to safely install libc6
Here's a slightly old thread I'm continuing; I'm very curious how people are dealing with this. I usually follow 'unstable,' in part because it largely is quite stable. I hold off on things that look like more trouble, like libc6. Much advice recommends not using it yet on important systems. I tried to avoid it, but fell for ldso 1.9.2, not realizing it (apparently) commits me to the libc6 development environment. I have not installed libc6 yet, and right now my compiles fail. All the binaries generated give "No such file or directory" errors, because they can't link, I believe. I hesitate to go ahead and install the libc6 packages, though, if things might become more unstable. I'd like to build a new kernel at the moment, and wouldn't want to do so with a C library that wasn't ready for prime time. I tried downgrading ldso to ldso_1.8.10-2. That didn't work at all; when dpkg finished my linker was blown out, and I had to go to the rescue disk. I'm not sure how the new environment should look; what packages I'll need, and if they're all in place yet; the 'altdev' packages are continuing to appear. Are people compiling stable binaries & kernels with libc6, or with it installed but using the altdev-libc5 stuff? If everyone were as uncertain as I am, I think I'd be seeing more discussion on the topic, so maybe I'm up a tree somewhere :-) But I'd love some opinions on whether, with libc6, we're getting much more 'unstable' than we usually are. Thanks all, loving Debian as always, Ed Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
dSELECT
Ill start this off with the usual caveats, Im new to linux in general, as well as debian. My problems, however, seem to be with the dselect program. I have read the minimal help pages within dselect, as well as the linux install faqs and the (frankly next-to-useless) dselect beginner file. I also checked the debian-user archives, and while I found a lot of problems with dselect, none of the solutions fixed mine. The system Im using: (Im pretty sure this is irrelevent)- TI TM6020 notebook, P120, 8 Mgs, Active Color,... I installed the base off of dos disks and everything went very, very smoothly (For some reason, I thought that was going to be the hard part, guess not). As for the packages, I decided that it would be easiest for me to d/l the important stuff, or at least as much as I could, and install from a zip disk. I didnt have a problem getting dselect to read the zip disks nor the packages contained therein. In fact, many of the packages installed smoothly. Some of them, however, did not. Most of my problems were with xwindows files, Ill try to boil this down to some questions. 1. When installing I got pre-dependency and other dependency errors... shouldnt dselect have told me about these _before_ it started installing? This isnt exactly intuitive (nor is it in any help files Ive seen). Before you respond with the obvious, yes, all of the files which I had selected, were, in fact, on the zip disk. Why isnt dselect showing ALL the dependencies? 2.The files that wouldnt install were man manpages groff as well as a host of x files including xbase (kinda important) and all the servers. Whats worse, when I went in and tried to remove all these broken files, dselect got rid of most, but for the x servers was giving me the message xserver-svga is in an extremely inconsistent state -- you should reinstall before removing. Well, thats some circular logic worthy of Microsoft, I need to reinstall the package I cant install so I can remove it? 3. The main hang up for dselect seemed to be configuration files of one sort or another, it failed, for some reason, to create the config files for x, which lead to a whole host of other errors, and eventually to the installation process being halted. My apologies for not providing more specific information, if there isnt any easy answer to my problems (which Im guessing is the case), can anyone at least recommend/point me to a file which sorts packages in a more sensible order? (The required/ imortant/optional/extra is sort of vague). In other words, if you want a basic xwindows system these packages are vital... these may be needed... these are nice to have... _and_, more importantly has the actual dependencies of the packages and what order (if any) they need to be installed in? Thanks for any help/advice/pointers. I know its frustrating dealing with newbies, just remember its frustrating being one too. _Peter D -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: libc5-dev and kernel-source
Hi, >>"Thomas" == Thomas Gebhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> Hello, How do the include files in /usr/include/linux relate Thomas> to the files in /usr/src/kernel-source-/include/linux ? Thomas> Most of the include files are identical, others are Thomas> different. Isn't this a possible source of confusion? This is an FAQ ;-). Here's my canned response ... manoj === This document contains comments from Linus Torvalds (made in an ``off-the-cuff'' personal email) to help clarify the rationale behind the Debian way of handling symlinks, but this should not be seen as an official policy statement by Linus. I'm attaching a disclaimer in his own words. The only reason that Linus's message is quoted in here is that he can explain the technical reasons with far more lucidity than I can, and now that I have permission to include his mail, I am removing most of my far less facile efforts in that regard. >> "David" == David Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Mon, 24 Feb 1997 >> "Linus" == Linus Torvalds said on Mon, 24 Feb 1997 David> Hi Linus, David> No matter how well we try to explain ourselves, the symlinks issue David> keeps coming up. Would you mind if we used your message below in David> our responses? Linus> Sure. Don't make it "the word of God" - please point out that Linus> it was a off-the-bat personal reply to a question concerning Linus> this, and while I'm more than happy to have the email Linus> circulated it shouldn't be seen as a "official" document in any Linus> way.. Linus> Linus --- The headers were included in libc5-dev after a rash of very buggy alpha kernel releases (1.3.7* or something like that) that proceeded to break compilations, etc. Kernel versions are changed far more rapidly than libc is, and there are higer chances that people install a custom kernel than they install custom libc. libc6 includes it's own version of /usr/include/linux and friends form the beginning (that is, this is no longer a Debian only feature, the upstream version has moved to this scheme as well). >> "Linus" == Linus Torvalds said on Wed, 22 Jan 1997: Linus> The kernel headers used to make sense exporting to user space, Linus> but the user space thing has grown so much that it's really not Linus> practical any more. The problem with Debian is just that they Linus> are different, not that they are doing anything wrong. That Linus> leads to differences between the distributions, and that in Linus> turn obviously can result in subtle problems. Linus> As of glibc, the kernel headers will really be _kernel_ Linus> headers, and user level includes are user level Linus> includes. Matthias Ulrich did that partly because I've asked Linus> him to, but mainly just because it is no longer possible to try Linus> to synchronize the libc and the kernel the way it used to Linus> be. The symlinks have been a bad idea for at least a year now, Linus> and the problem is just how to get rid of them Linus> gracefully. Personally, I'm counting on glibc, which we are Linus> already using on alpha. Linus> Just to give you some idea of exactly why the includes really Linus> can't be handled by simple symlinks: the main problem is Linus> version skew. Lots of people want to upgrade their library Linus> without affecting the kernel, and probably even more people Linus> want to be able to upgrade their kernel without affecting their Linus> compilation environment. Right now doing that has been Linus> extremely fragile. Linus> Just to give _one_ example of why the symlinks are bad: NR_OPEN Linus> and "fd_set". I have had no end of problems making NR_OPEN Linus> larger in the kernel, exactly _because_ of the damn Linus> sym-links. If I just make NR_OPEN larger (the right thing to Linus> do), the problem is that people with old libraries will now Linus> compile against a header file that doesn't match the library Linus> any more. And when the library internally uses another NR_OPEN Linus> than the new program does, "interesting" things happen. Linus> In contrast, with separate header files, this doesn't make any Linus> difference. If I change NR_OPEN in the kernel, the compilation Linus> environment won't notice UNTIL the library and associated Linus> header files are changed: thus the user will contine to compile Linus> with the old values, but because we'll still be binary Linus> compatible, the worst thing that happens is that new programs Linus> won't take advantage of new features unless the developer has Linus> upgraded his library. Compare that to breaking subtly. Linus> NR_OPEN is just _one_ example, and actually it's one of the Linus> easier ones to handle (because the only thing that really makes Linus> much of a difference w
