bo-updates other updates
hi everybody, I really don't understand ftp.debian.org directory structure; is there a document explaining every bit of it? it fisrt happened with samba-1.9.17p2; I read in the newsgroups that it was available (and it was important!) but couldn't install it with dselect: dselect still showed 1.9.16p11 as the current release; so I: - uninstalled my current 1.9.16p11 with dselect; - downloaded 1.9.17p2 using ftp; - installed 1.9.17p2 with 'dpkg -i filename' is (was) there a more well-behaved way to do it? now I want to install mutt-0.58.0; I've received a message stating that mutt-0.58.0-i386.deb is available but I can't find it (let alone install it (let alone install it with dselect))!! I also would like to keep my installation up-to-date with whatever is in 'bo-updates'; is there a way to do it with dselect? btw: dselect is GREAT!!! congratulations, Debian guys! TIA! Otavio Exel /\oo/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bo-updates
Hi! I may be wrong, but: When bo-updates had the same structure as stable, non-free and contrib, one could in fact use dselect to install the bo-updates, just by typing Enter space seperated list of distributions to get [stable non-free contrib]: stable non-free contrib bo-updates This would be a good solution, stable stays stable! And creating these sub-directories wouldn't be _that_ hard... or am I missing something? Yes, you are :) You don't need those subdirectories, but just one plain Packages.gz file in bo-updates/ Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bo-updates
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote: ... This would be a good solution, stable stays stable! And creating these sub-directories wouldn't be _that_ hard... or am I missing something? Yes, you are :) You don't need those subdirectories, but just one plain Packages.gz file in bo-updates/ So it would be even simpler!? So let's do it! Who can do it? -- Lukas Eppler (godot) http://www.fear.ch telnet://soil.fear.ch: talk:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
bo-updates
Hi! I may be wrong, but: When bo-updates had the same structure as stable, non-free and contrib, one could in fact use dselect to install the bo-updates, just by typing Enter space seperated list of distributions to get [stable non-free contrib]: stable non-free contrib bo-updates This would be a good solution, stable stays stable! And creating these sub-directories wouldn't be _that_ hard... or am I missing something? Thanks, -- Lukas Eppler (godot) http://www.fear.ch telnet://soil.fear.ch: talk:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Bo updates
Hi, I am wondering when all those useful packages in bo-updates will be merged into bo. I've seeing them for quite a while but I don't want to install in our production servers (running 1.3.1) anything that is untested. Debian 1.3.1 was released more than one month ago and I haven't seen any changes or updates to it. Is everything so perfect that updates aren't needed? Or the updates have come but I haven't seen them? Thanks, E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: about bo-updates ...
Carlo U Segre writes: One thing that strikes me about the change in the organization of the stable tree is that I have seen no simple instructions on how to make use of the updates in the bo-updates driectory since they are not linked to a version of the stable tree. manoj writes: Do you see why we are not exactly making it easy to upgrade to them? They are not hidden, but they are not for general consumption yet. But don't you see that Carlo's comment is evidence of just how confusing it all is? -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
about bo-updates ...
Hello All: I have been following the discussion of the past few days with some interest. One thing that strikes me about the change in the organization of the stable tree is that I have seen no simple instructions on how to make use of the updates in the bo-updates driectory since they are not linked to a version of the stable tree. There has been some mention of using dpkg-ftp but one still has to tell dselect where to find the information about the packages and if they are not in the stable tree, they will not be found. The problem is the same if one (as I do, with my own mirror) use the nfs method. Could someone please explain the new methods? Cheers, Carlo *** *Carlo U. Segre * * Department of Biological, Chemical and Physical Sciences * *Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago, IL 60616 * * Voice: (312) 567-3498 FAX: (312) 567-3494* *[EMAIL PROTECTED]* *** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: about bo-updates ...
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Carlo U. Segre wrote: I have been following the discussion of the past few days with some interest. One thing that strikes me about the change in the organization of the stable tree is that I have seen no simple instructions on how to make use of the updates in the bo-updates driectory since they are not linked to a version of the stable tree. There has been some mention of using dpkg-ftp but one still has to tell dselect where to find the information about the packages and if they are not in the stable tree, they will not be found. The problem is the same if one (as I do, with my own mirror) use the nfs method. Could someone please explain the new methods? I think we are in limbo on this issue, meaning that it is not resolved. I think that the archive maintainer, the distribution manager, and the testing manager need to decide on a policy and then report it clearly. In addition, the packages in bo-updates are for use at the user's discretion--they have not been formally accepted as updates to the stable distribution AFAIK. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: about bo-updates ...
Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : In addition, the packages in bo-updates are for use at the user's : discretion--they have not been formally accepted as updates to the stable : distribution AFAIK. I think THIS IS THE PROBLEM with the new scheme: there is not a separate directory where you can get all the updates separately, you have to go to the stable directory because updates are merged directly into the main distribution. This is what I don't like. Regards, E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9430323 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: about bo-updates ...
Hi, Carlo == Carlo U Segre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Carlo Hello All: I have been following the discussion of the past few Carlo days with some interest. One thing that strikes me about the Carlo change in the organization of the stable tree is that I have Carlo seen no simple instructions on how to make use of the updates Carlo in the bo-updates driectory since they are not linked to a Carlo version of the stable tree. Right. Those packages have not been released yet. They are release candidates. When they are released, it shall be easy to have dselect see them. Currently, they are under test. They may not be as unstable as unstable packages, but they are not yet released. Do you see why we are not exactly making it easy to upgrade to them? They are not hidden, but they are not for general consumption yet. manoj -- Heisenberg might have been here. Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: about bo-updates ...
Hi, Eloy == Eloy A Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eloy I think THIS IS THE PROBLEM with the new scheme: there is not a Eloy separate directory where you can get all the updates separately, Eloy you have to go to the stable directory because updates are Eloy merged directly into the main distribution. This is what I don't Eloy like. This is not policy. The packages in the updates directory are release candidates, open for testing. When they are released, they will be put in a numbered directory. Untill then, they are use-at-your-own-risk packages. Not as bad as unstable, but not released either. manoj -- Marriage is low down, but you spend the rest of your life paying for it. Baskins Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
on bo-updates and Debian incorporation whinnies
--- Start of forwarded message --- First, there is an easy way with the current stable version of dselect to determine what effect the packages in bo-updates will have on the typical system. When dselect asks for a local directory of packages, simply give it the directory where your bo-updates files are. Then dselect needs a Packages file which is not there. Again, the option is there to type in 'scan' and dselect will create a Packages list for you. Then when you select packages, you can see all the new packages that you may want to update or not. Second, I am a very satisfied Debian user. Further, I am very grateful for all the work that has gone into Debian and have every confidence that it will continue to get better each day. In my opinion, it is the superior system for Linux and we all know how superior the Linux OS is to the alternatives! As a user, I have no complaints whatsoever with the non-profit incorporation. I have also been affiliated with a non-profit and I think this fits Debian perfectly. The move to a tax-deductible non-profit is also a good move, but will require more effort on the part of the officers of the corporation (mostly in bookkeeping, etc.). Still, it is a great move because it gives a little break for some folks who deserve it. On the revision numbers, we've gone through changes bigger than this in the past. My recommendation is to ignore the complainers. I know it is hard to do so. It was very hard to resist writing this e-mail. Unless you've been there, it is hard to understand. And if people start using profanity, knock 'em off. Finally, Debian is a success. When you are successful, you grow. Just look at the number of hits on this list if you don't think so. And it will get better and bigger. If you want to stay small, maybe Debian is not for you. Debian is at 1000+ packages now and really becoming a viable system. Everything from games like quake to serious stuff like LAPACK libraries and g77. I can't wait to see what unfolds in the future as more people catch on. - -- /--\ | James D. Freels, P.E._i, Ph.D. | Phone: (423)576-8645 | | L | | Oak Ridge National Laboratory | FAX:(423)574-9172 | H | I | | Research Reactors Division | Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | F | N | | P. O. Box 2008 | Reactor Technology | I | U | | Oak Ridge, Tennessee 37831-6392 | world's best neutrons! | R | X | \--/ --- End of forwarded message --- - -- /--\ | James D. Freels, P.E._i, Ph.D. | Phone: (423)576-8645 | | L | | Oak Ridge National Laboratory | FAX:(423)574-9172 | H | I | | Research Reactors Division | Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | F | N | | P. O. Box 2008 | Reactor Technology | I | U | | Oak Ridge, Tennessee 37831-6392 | world's best neutrons! | R | X | \--/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: question on bo-updates: found on ldso security update
Todd Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : I would say that bo-updates is a holding tank for packages intended : to become part of Debian-1.3.2 when it gets released. Consider it : the unstable part of stable until the testing group gives those : packages its blessing. If you need/want any of those packages, you : will have to install them with dpkg by hand. Well, this bo-updates thing is definitely different to what has been done with previous Debian stable versions (1.1 - Buzz and 1.2 - Rex). In previous versions, each time packages were updated to solve security problems or critical bugs, a point release was made. For example, if package mount was updated from x.y-1 to x.y-2, Debian was updated from 1.2.3 to 1.2.4. The new packages were placed in rex-updates and there was two different trees: rex which contained 1.2 and rex-fixed that contained 1.2 with the updates applied, this is, it was a real 1.2.4. I don't know why the approach seems to have changed with Bo. Anyone has any ideas? E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9430323 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
question on bo-updates: found on ldso security update
I was notified this morning about the recent CIAC security announcment on ld.so. I went to my Debian mirror and found that the fix was already available under bo-updates directory. I *thought* that since my system was up to date [i.e., v 1.3.1 + ] that I probably already had the fix incorporated. But alas, I did not. In fact, I found that there were about 20 .deb files in bo-update that do not show up automatically with dselect. Apparently, bo-updates is not intended to be in the dselect tree unless the user incorporates it by hand? -- /--\ | James D. Freels, P.E._i, Ph.D. | Phone: (423)576-8645 | | L | | Oak Ridge National Laboratory | FAX:(423)574-9172 | H | I | | Research Reactors Division | Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | F | N | | P. O. Box 2008 | Reactor Technology | I | U | | Oak Ridge, Tennessee 37831-6392 | world's best neutrons! | R | X | \--/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: question on bo-updates: found on ldso security update
On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, James D. Freels wrote: do not show up automatically with dselect. Apparently, bo-updates is not intended to be in the dselect tree unless the user incorporates it by hand? I've wondered about what exactly bo-updates is too, along with if/when/how one should install these packages and/or integrate them into dselect. Regards, | Debian GNU/ __ o .|/ / _ _ _ _ _ __ __ Randy| / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / (FidoNet 1:325/805) | // /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | ...because lockups are for convicts... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: question on bo-updates: found on ldso security update
I was notified this morning about the recent CIAC security announcment on ld.so. I went to my Debian mirror and found that the fix was already available under bo-updates directory. I *thought* that since my system was up to date [i.e., v 1.3.1 + ] that I probably already had the fix incorporated. But alas, I did not. 1.3.1 was released before this exploit was discovered. In fact, I found that there were about 20 .deb files in bo-update that do not show up automatically with dselect. Apparently, bo-updates is not intended to be in the dselect tree unless the user incorporates it by hand? The packages in bo-updates are there for testing by everyone, namely the testing group, and to be subsequently included into next release when sufficient testing has been done. You are welcome to download and install them, but they will not appear in dselect until the next point release is made. -- Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: question on bo-updates: found on ldso security update
On Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:49:15 -0400, Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The packages in bo-updates are there for testing by everyone, namely the testing group, [...] I'd be glad to help test these packages, but downloading and installing them by hand is a hassle (mainly given that I don't use all those packages). It would be great if there were a Packages file in that directory. -- Roderick Schertler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: question on bo-updates: found on ldso security update
do not show up automatically with dselect. Apparently, bo-updates is not intended to be in the dselect tree unless the user incorporates it by hand? I've wondered about what exactly bo-updates is too, along with if/when/how one should install these packages and/or integrate them into dselect. I would say that bo-updates is a holding tank for packages intended to become part of Debian-1.3.2 when it gets released. Consider it the unstable part of stable until the testing group gives those packages its blessing. If you need/want any of those packages, you will have to install them with dpkg by hand. -- Todd HarperInitiating 'getting-us-the-hell-out-of-here' [EMAIL PROTECTED] maneuver. -- Lennier, B5 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
bo-updates: integrate with dselect?
I have a question about the bo-updates subdirectory. Now, I know that bo is supposed to be stable and relatively unchanging, but what is the purpose of the bo-updates subdirectory? I take it that it contains updates to the bo packages, but how can one integrate this into deselect, or even should one integrade bo-updates into dselect? Regards, | Debian GNU/ __ o .|/ / _ _ _ _ _ __ __ Randy| / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / (FidoNet 1:325/805) | // /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | ...because lockups are for convicts... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Problem with scalable fonts in bo-updates
I've upgraded to xfree3.3 using the packages located in bo-updates and found the following error messages when installing scalable fonts: --- # dpkg -i xfntscl_3.3-3_all.deb (Reading database ... 23014 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace xfntscl 3.2-6 (using xfntscl_3.3-3_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement xfntscl ... dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) dpkg: error processing xfntscl_3.3-3_all.deb (--install): subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2 Adjusting font index in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo... Adjusting font index in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1... Errors were encountered while processing: xfntscl_3.3-3_all.deb --- The efect is that the scalable fonts aren't upgraded and the xserver seems to need them. For example, netscape seems horrible, because it uses these fonts. ¿Has somoene suffered this problem? -- - Antonio Muñoz Roldánmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unidad Informatica http://apcien.ciemat.es CIEMAT, Av. Complutense 22 tlfn: 91 346 6365 28040 Madridfax: 91 346 6005 - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem with scalable fonts in bo-updates
On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Antonio M. Roldan wrote: : I've upgraded to xfree3.3 using the packages located in bo-updates : and found the following error messages when installing scalable fonts: [error sniffed] : Has somoene suffered this problem? I didn't experience this problem. Maybe you should try to get the .deb file from another archive? Or check the filesize? Remco. -- // Remco van de Meent // email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // www: http://oloon.student.utwente.nl //Never make any mistaeks. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem with scalable fonts in bo-updates
Hola, On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Antonio M. Roldan wrote: I've upgraded to xfree3.3 using the packages located in bo-updates and found the following error messages when installing scalable fonts: --- # dpkg -i xfntscl_3.3-3_all.deb (Reading database ... 23014 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace xfntscl 3.2-6 (using xfntscl_3.3-3_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement xfntscl ... dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) dpkg: error processing xfntscl_3.3-3_all.deb (--install): subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2 Adjusting font index in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo... Adjusting font index in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1... Errors were encountered while processing: xfntscl_3.3-3_all.deb --- The efect is that the scalable fonts aren't upgraded and the xserver seems to need them. For example, netscape seems horrible, because it uses these fonts. ¿Has somoene suffered this problem? No, they installed fine for me. The package has probably gotten corrupted during download, try to get it again. About Netscape: the fonts still look horrible here. Cheers, Joost -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
