[Discuss] Beam Summit 2020 Dates & locations

[Griselda Cuevas]

Hi Beam Community!

I'd like to kick off a thread to discuss potential dates and venues for the
2020 Beam Summits.

I did some research on industry conferences happening in 2020 and
pre-selected a few ranges as follows:

(2 days) NA between mid-May and mid-June
(2 days) EU mid October
(1 day) Asia Mini Summit:  March

I'd like to hear your thoughts on these dates and get consensus on exact
dates as the convo progresses.

For locations these are the options I reviewed:

*NA: *Austin Texas, Berkeley California, Mexico City.
*Europe: *Warsaw, Barcelona, Paris
Asia: Singapore

Let the discussion begin!
G (on behalf of the Beam Summit Steering Committee)

Re: [Discuss] Beam Summit 2020 Dates & locations

[Pablo Estrada]

I've added some Geo information to the Beam GA report[1]. In my opinion, it
makes sense to target cities with the largest existing Beam presence (along
with, perhaps, places where people can travel easily).

- London and Paris are the top cities in Europe for visits to the Beam
site, so I feel that Paris could be a good location.
- In the US, NY is the largest single city, but if we count all of the
Silicon Valley locations near the top, then both NYC and Bay Area are very
large (Bay Area comes out on top).

- For Asia, I guess it's a little tricky. Are community members aware of
meetups that have been organized in Asia? We could try to work backwards
from that evidence of 'community engagement', and see if there are some
outstanding locations. In the GA report, Japan, China, India are all very
large - Bangalore is the second largest city globally for visits to the
Beam site. +Reza Rokni  thoughts?

[1] http://s.apache.org/beam-ga-report


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 3:17 AM Griselda Cuevas  wrote:

> Hi Beam Community!
>
> I'd like to kick off a thread to discuss potential dates and venues for
> the 2020 Beam Summits.
>
> I did some research on industry conferences happening in 2020 and
> pre-selected a few ranges as follows:
>
> (2 days) NA between mid-May and mid-June
> (2 days) EU mid October
> (1 day) Asia Mini Summit:  March
>
> I'd like to hear your thoughts on these dates and get consensus on exact
> dates as the convo progresses.
>
> For locations these are the options I reviewed:
>
> *NA: *Austin Texas, Berkeley California, Mexico City.
> *Europe: *Warsaw, Barcelona, Paris
> Asia: Singapore
>
> Let the discussion begin!
> G (on behalf of the Beam Summit Steering Committee)
>
>
>
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam Summit 2020 Dates & locations

[Elliotte Rusty Harold]

The U.S. sadly is not a reliable destination for international
conferences these days. Almost every conference I go to, big and
small, has at least one speaker, sometimes more, who can't get into
the country. Canada seems worth considering. Vancouver, Montreal, and
Toronto are all convenient.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:17 PM Griselda Cuevas  wrote:
>
> Hi Beam Community!
>
> I'd like to kick off a thread to discuss potential dates and venues for the 
> 2020 Beam Summits.
>
> I did some research on industry conferences happening in 2020 and 
> pre-selected a few ranges as follows:
>
> (2 days) NA between mid-May and mid-June
> (2 days) EU mid October
> (1 day) Asia Mini Summit:  March
>
> I'd like to hear your thoughts on these dates and get consensus on exact 
> dates as the convo progresses.
>
> For locations these are the options I reviewed:
>
> NA: Austin Texas, Berkeley California, Mexico City.
> Europe: Warsaw, Barcelona, Paris
> Asia: Singapore
>
> Let the discussion begin!
> G (on behalf of the Beam Summit Steering Committee)
>
>
>


-- 
Elliotte Rusty Harold
elh...@ibiblio.org

Re: [Discuss] Beam Summit 2020 Dates & locations

[Ahmet Altay]

I prefer bay are for NA summit. My reasoning is that there is a criticall
mass of contributors and users in that location, probably more than
alternative NA locations. I was not involved with planning recently and I
do not know if there were people who could attend due to location
previously. If that is the case, I agree with Elliotte on looking for other
options.

Related to dates: March (Asia) and mid-May (NA) dates are a bit close.
Mid-June for NA might be better to spread events. Other pieces looks good.

Ahmet

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:09 AM Elliotte Rusty Harold 
wrote:

> The U.S. sadly is not a reliable destination for international
> conferences these days. Almost every conference I go to, big and
> small, has at least one speaker, sometimes more, who can't get into
> the country. Canada seems worth considering. Vancouver, Montreal, and
> Toronto are all convenient.
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:17 PM Griselda Cuevas  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Beam Community!
> >
> > I'd like to kick off a thread to discuss potential dates and venues for
> the 2020 Beam Summits.
> >
> > I did some research on industry conferences happening in 2020 and
> pre-selected a few ranges as follows:
> >
> > (2 days) NA between mid-May and mid-June
> > (2 days) EU mid October
> > (1 day) Asia Mini Summit:  March
> >
> > I'd like to hear your thoughts on these dates and get consensus on exact
> dates as the convo progresses.
> >
> > For locations these are the options I reviewed:
> >
> > NA: Austin Texas, Berkeley California, Mexico City.
> > Europe: Warsaw, Barcelona, Paris
> > Asia: Singapore
> >
> > Let the discussion begin!
> > G (on behalf of the Beam Summit Steering Committee)
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Elliotte Rusty Harold
> elh...@ibiblio.org
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam Summit 2020 Dates & locations

[Alex Van Boxel]

For date wise, I'm wondering why we should switching the Europe and NA one,
this would mean that the Berlin and the new EU summit would be almost 1.5
years apart.

 _/
_/ Alex Van Boxel


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:43 PM Ahmet Altay  wrote:

> I prefer bay are for NA summit. My reasoning is that there is a criticall
> mass of contributors and users in that location, probably more than
> alternative NA locations. I was not involved with planning recently and I
> do not know if there were people who could attend due to location
> previously. If that is the case, I agree with Elliotte on looking for other
> options.
>
> Related to dates: March (Asia) and mid-May (NA) dates are a bit close.
> Mid-June for NA might be better to spread events. Other pieces looks good.
>
> Ahmet
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:09 AM Elliotte Rusty Harold 
> wrote:
>
>> The U.S. sadly is not a reliable destination for international
>> conferences these days. Almost every conference I go to, big and
>> small, has at least one speaker, sometimes more, who can't get into
>> the country. Canada seems worth considering. Vancouver, Montreal, and
>> Toronto are all convenient.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:17 PM Griselda Cuevas  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Beam Community!
>> >
>> > I'd like to kick off a thread to discuss potential dates and venues for
>> the 2020 Beam Summits.
>> >
>> > I did some research on industry conferences happening in 2020 and
>> pre-selected a few ranges as follows:
>> >
>> > (2 days) NA between mid-May and mid-June
>> > (2 days) EU mid October
>> > (1 day) Asia Mini Summit:  March
>> >
>> > I'd like to hear your thoughts on these dates and get consensus on
>> exact dates as the convo progresses.
>> >
>> > For locations these are the options I reviewed:
>> >
>> > NA: Austin Texas, Berkeley California, Mexico City.
>> > Europe: Warsaw, Barcelona, Paris
>> > Asia: Singapore
>> >
>> > Let the discussion begin!
>> > G (on behalf of the Beam Summit Steering Committee)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Elliotte Rusty Harold
>> elh...@ibiblio.org
>>
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam Summit 2020 Dates & locations

[Maximilian Michels]

The dates sounds good to me. I agree that the bay area has an advantage 
because of its large tech community. On the other hand, it is a question 
of how we run the event. For Berlin we managed to get about 200 
attendees to Berlin, but for the BeamSummit in Las Vegas with ApacheCon 
the attendance was much lower.


Should this also be discussed on the user mailing list?

Cheers,
Max

On 07.11.19 22:50, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
For date wise, I'm wondering why we should switching the Europe and NA 
one, this would mean that the Berlin and the new EU summit would be 
almost 1.5 years apart.


  _/
_/ Alex Van Boxel


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:43 PM Ahmet Altay > wrote:


I prefer bay are for NA summit. My reasoning is that there is a
criticall mass of contributors and users in that location, probably
more than alternative NA locations. I was not involved with planning
recently and I do not know if there were people who could attend due
to location previously. If that is the case, I agree with Elliotte
on looking for other options.

Related to dates: March (Asia) and mid-May (NA) dates are a bit
close. Mid-June for NA might be better to spread events. Other
pieces looks good.

Ahmet

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:09 AM Elliotte Rusty Harold
mailto:elh...@ibiblio.org>> wrote:

The U.S. sadly is not a reliable destination for international
conferences these days. Almost every conference I go to, big and
small, has at least one speaker, sometimes more, who can't get into
the country. Canada seems worth considering. Vancouver,
Montreal, and
Toronto are all convenient.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:17 PM Griselda Cuevas mailto:g...@apache.org>> wrote:
 >
 > Hi Beam Community!
 >
 > I'd like to kick off a thread to discuss potential dates and
venues for the 2020 Beam Summits.
 >
 > I did some research on industry conferences happening in 2020
and pre-selected a few ranges as follows:
 >
 > (2 days) NA between mid-May and mid-June
 > (2 days) EU mid October
 > (1 day) Asia Mini Summit:  March
 >
 > I'd like to hear your thoughts on these dates and get
consensus on exact dates as the convo progresses.
 >
 > For locations these are the options I reviewed:
 >
 > NA: Austin Texas, Berkeley California, Mexico City.
 > Europe: Warsaw, Barcelona, Paris
 > Asia: Singapore
 >
 > Let the discussion begin!
 > G (on behalf of the Beam Summit Steering Committee)
 >
 >
 >


-- 
Elliotte Rusty Harold

elh...@ibiblio.org 

Re: [Discuss] Beam Summit 2020 Dates & locations

[jincheng sun]

+1 for extend the discussion to the user mailing list?

Maximilian Michels  于2019年11月8日周五 下午6:32写道：

> The dates sounds good to me. I agree that the bay area has an advantage
> because of its large tech community. On the other hand, it is a question
> of how we run the event. For Berlin we managed to get about 200
> attendees to Berlin, but for the BeamSummit in Las Vegas with ApacheCon
> the attendance was much lower.
>
> Should this also be discussed on the user mailing list?
>
> Cheers,
> Max
>
> On 07.11.19 22:50, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
> > For date wise, I'm wondering why we should switching the Europe and NA
> > one, this would mean that the Berlin and the new EU summit would be
> > almost 1.5 years apart.
> >
> >   _/
> > _/ Alex Van Boxel
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:43 PM Ahmet Altay  > > wrote:
> >
> > I prefer bay are for NA summit. My reasoning is that there is a
> > criticall mass of contributors and users in that location, probably
> > more than alternative NA locations. I was not involved with planning
> > recently and I do not know if there were people who could attend due
> > to location previously. If that is the case, I agree with Elliotte
> > on looking for other options.
> >
> > Related to dates: March (Asia) and mid-May (NA) dates are a bit
> > close. Mid-June for NA might be better to spread events. Other
> > pieces looks good.
> >
> > Ahmet
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:09 AM Elliotte Rusty Harold
> > mailto:elh...@ibiblio.org>> wrote:
> >
> > The U.S. sadly is not a reliable destination for international
> > conferences these days. Almost every conference I go to, big and
> > small, has at least one speaker, sometimes more, who can't get
> into
> > the country. Canada seems worth considering. Vancouver,
> > Montreal, and
> > Toronto are all convenient.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:17 PM Griselda Cuevas  > > wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Hi Beam Community!
> >  >
> >  > I'd like to kick off a thread to discuss potential dates and
> > venues for the 2020 Beam Summits.
> >  >
> >  > I did some research on industry conferences happening in 2020
> > and pre-selected a few ranges as follows:
> >  >
> >  > (2 days) NA between mid-May and mid-June
> >  > (2 days) EU mid October
> >  > (1 day) Asia Mini Summit:  March
> >  >
> >  > I'd like to hear your thoughts on these dates and get
> > consensus on exact dates as the convo progresses.
> >  >
> >  > For locations these are the options I reviewed:
> >  >
> >  > NA: Austin Texas, Berkeley California, Mexico City.
> >  > Europe: Warsaw, Barcelona, Paris
> >  > Asia: Singapore
> >  >
> >  > Let the discussion begin!
> >  > G (on behalf of the Beam Summit Steering Committee)
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Elliotte Rusty Harold
> > elh...@ibiblio.org 
> >
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam Summit 2020 Dates & locations

[Reza Rokni]

Hi,

I think doing something in Asia later in the year would be very cool, I
think given there has not yet been a lot of formal activity there, we
should give plenty of time to ensure good local sponsorship etc...

Cheers

Reza

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 19:10, jincheng sun  wrote:

> +1 for extend the discussion to the user mailing list?
>
> Maximilian Michels  于2019年11月8日周五 下午6:32写道：
>
>> The dates sounds good to me. I agree that the bay area has an advantage
>> because of its large tech community. On the other hand, it is a question
>> of how we run the event. For Berlin we managed to get about 200
>> attendees to Berlin, but for the BeamSummit in Las Vegas with ApacheCon
>> the attendance was much lower.
>>
>> Should this also be discussed on the user mailing list?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Max
>>
>> On 07.11.19 22:50, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>> > For date wise, I'm wondering why we should switching the Europe and NA
>> > one, this would mean that the Berlin and the new EU summit would be
>> > almost 1.5 years apart.
>> >
>> >   _/
>> > _/ Alex Van Boxel
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:43 PM Ahmet Altay > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > I prefer bay are for NA summit. My reasoning is that there is a
>> > criticall mass of contributors and users in that location, probably
>> > more than alternative NA locations. I was not involved with planning
>> > recently and I do not know if there were people who could attend due
>> > to location previously. If that is the case, I agree with Elliotte
>> > on looking for other options.
>> >
>> > Related to dates: March (Asia) and mid-May (NA) dates are a bit
>> > close. Mid-June for NA might be better to spread events. Other
>> > pieces looks good.
>> >
>> > Ahmet
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:09 AM Elliotte Rusty Harold
>> > mailto:elh...@ibiblio.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > The U.S. sadly is not a reliable destination for international
>> > conferences these days. Almost every conference I go to, big and
>> > small, has at least one speaker, sometimes more, who can't get
>> into
>> > the country. Canada seems worth considering. Vancouver,
>> > Montreal, and
>> > Toronto are all convenient.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:17 PM Griselda Cuevas > > > wrote:
>> >  >
>> >  > Hi Beam Community!
>> >  >
>> >  > I'd like to kick off a thread to discuss potential dates and
>> > venues for the 2020 Beam Summits.
>> >  >
>> >  > I did some research on industry conferences happening in 2020
>> > and pre-selected a few ranges as follows:
>> >  >
>> >  > (2 days) NA between mid-May and mid-June
>> >  > (2 days) EU mid October
>> >  > (1 day) Asia Mini Summit:  March
>> >  >
>> >  > I'd like to hear your thoughts on these dates and get
>> > consensus on exact dates as the convo progresses.
>> >  >
>> >  > For locations these are the options I reviewed:
>> >  >
>> >  > NA: Austin Texas, Berkeley California, Mexico City.
>> >  > Europe: Warsaw, Barcelona, Paris
>> >  > Asia: Singapore
>> >  >
>> >  > Let the discussion begin!
>> >  > G (on behalf of the Beam Summit Steering Committee)
>> >  >
>> >  >
>> >  >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Elliotte Rusty Harold
>> > elh...@ibiblio.org 
>> >
>>
>

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Re: [Discuss] Beam Summit 2020 Dates & locations

[Alexey Romanenko]

On 8 Nov 2019, at 11:32, Maximilian Michels  wrote:
> 
> The dates sounds good to me. I agree that the bay area has an advantage 
> because of its large tech community. On the other hand, it is a question of 
> how we run the event. For Berlin we managed to get about 200 attendees to 
> Berlin, but for the BeamSummit in Las Vegas with ApacheCon the attendance was 
> much lower.

I agree with your point Max and I believe that it would be more efficient to 
run Beam Summit as a “standalone" event (as it was done in London and Berlin) 
which will allow us to attract mostly Beam-oriented/interested/focused audience 
comparing to running this as part of ApacheCon or any other large conferences 
where are many other different topics and tracks.

> Should this also be discussed on the user mailing list?

Definitively! Despite the fact that users opinion is a key point here, it will 
not be so easy to get not-biased statistics in this question. 

The time frames are also very important since holidays in different countries 
(for example, August is traditionally a "vacation month" in France and some 
other European countries) can effect people availability and influent the final 
number of participants in the end. 

> 
> Cheers,
> Max
> 
> On 07.11.19 22:50, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>> For date wise, I'm wondering why we should switching the Europe and NA one, 
>> this would mean that the Berlin and the new EU summit would be almost 1.5 
>> years apart.
>>  _/
>> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:43 PM Ahmet Altay > > wrote:
>>I prefer bay are for NA summit. My reasoning is that there is a
>>criticall mass of contributors and users in that location, probably
>>more than alternative NA locations. I was not involved with planning
>>recently and I do not know if there were people who could attend due
>>to location previously. If that is the case, I agree with Elliotte
>>on looking for other options.
>>Related to dates: March (Asia) and mid-May (NA) dates are a bit
>>close. Mid-June for NA might be better to spread events. Other
>>pieces looks good.
>>Ahmet
>>On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:09 AM Elliotte Rusty Harold
>>mailto:elh...@ibiblio.org>> wrote:
>>The U.S. sadly is not a reliable destination for international
>>conferences these days. Almost every conference I go to, big and
>>small, has at least one speaker, sometimes more, who can't get into
>>the country. Canada seems worth considering. Vancouver,
>>Montreal, and
>>Toronto are all convenient.
>>On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:17 PM Griselda Cuevas >> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Beam Community!
>> >
>> > I'd like to kick off a thread to discuss potential dates and
>>venues for the 2020 Beam Summits.
>> >
>> > I did some research on industry conferences happening in 2020
>>and pre-selected a few ranges as follows:
>> >
>> > (2 days) NA between mid-May and mid-June
>> > (2 days) EU mid October
>> > (1 day) Asia Mini Summit:  March
>> >
>> > I'd like to hear your thoughts on these dates and get
>>consensus on exact dates as the convo progresses.
>> >
>> > For locations these are the options I reviewed:
>> >
>> > NA: Austin Texas, Berkeley California, Mexico City.
>> > Europe: Warsaw, Barcelona, Paris
>> > Asia: Singapore
>> >
>> > Let the discussion begin!
>> > G (on behalf of the Beam Summit Steering Committee)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>-- Elliotte Rusty Harold
>>elh...@ibiblio.org 

Re: [Discuss] Beam Summit 2020 Dates & locations

[Udi Meiri]

+1 for better organization. I would have gone to ApacheCon LV had I known
there was going to be a Beam summit there.

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:31 AM Alexey Romanenko 
wrote:

> On 8 Nov 2019, at 11:32, Maximilian Michels  wrote:
> >
> > The dates sounds good to me. I agree that the bay area has an advantage
> because of its large tech community. On the other hand, it is a question of
> how we run the event. For Berlin we managed to get about 200 attendees to
> Berlin, but for the BeamSummit in Las Vegas with ApacheCon the attendance
> was much lower.
>
> I agree with your point Max and I believe that it would be more efficient
> to run Beam Summit as a “standalone" event (as it was done in London and
> Berlin) which will allow us to attract mostly
> Beam-oriented/interested/focused audience comparing to running this as part
> of ApacheCon or any other large conferences where are many other different
> topics and tracks.
>
> > Should this also be discussed on the user mailing list?
>
> Definitively! Despite the fact that users opinion is a key point here, it
> will not be so easy to get not-biased statistics in this question.
>
> The time frames are also very important since holidays in different
> countries (for example, August is traditionally a "vacation month" in
> France and some other European countries) can effect people availability
> and influent the final number of participants in the end.
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Max
> >
> > On 07.11.19 22:50, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
> >> For date wise, I'm wondering why we should switching the Europe and NA
> one, this would mean that the Berlin and the new EU summit would be almost
> 1.5 years apart.
> >>  _/
> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:43 PM Ahmet Altay  al...@google.com>> wrote:
> >>I prefer bay are for NA summit. My reasoning is that there is a
> >>criticall mass of contributors and users in that location, probably
> >>more than alternative NA locations. I was not involved with planning
> >>recently and I do not know if there were people who could attend due
> >>to location previously. If that is the case, I agree with Elliotte
> >>on looking for other options.
> >>Related to dates: March (Asia) and mid-May (NA) dates are a bit
> >>close. Mid-June for NA might be better to spread events. Other
> >>pieces looks good.
> >>Ahmet
> >>On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:09 AM Elliotte Rusty Harold
> >>mailto:elh...@ibiblio.org>> wrote:
> >>The U.S. sadly is not a reliable destination for international
> >>conferences these days. Almost every conference I go to, big and
> >>small, has at least one speaker, sometimes more, who can't get
> into
> >>the country. Canada seems worth considering. Vancouver,
> >>Montreal, and
> >>Toronto are all convenient.
> >>On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:17 PM Griselda Cuevas  >>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Beam Community!
> >> >
> >> > I'd like to kick off a thread to discuss potential dates and
> >>venues for the 2020 Beam Summits.
> >> >
> >> > I did some research on industry conferences happening in 2020
> >>and pre-selected a few ranges as follows:
> >> >
> >> > (2 days) NA between mid-May and mid-June
> >> > (2 days) EU mid October
> >> > (1 day) Asia Mini Summit:  March
> >> >
> >> > I'd like to hear your thoughts on these dates and get
> >>consensus on exact dates as the convo progresses.
> >> >
> >> > For locations these are the options I reviewed:
> >> >
> >> > NA: Austin Texas, Berkeley California, Mexico City.
> >> > Europe: Warsaw, Barcelona, Paris
> >> > Asia: Singapore
> >> >
> >> > Let the discussion begin!
> >> > G (on behalf of the Beam Summit Steering Committee)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>-- Elliotte Rusty Harold
> >>elh...@ibiblio.org 
>
>


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Re: [Discuss] Beam Summit 2020 Dates & locations

[Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy]

Maria put together this documents with related industry conferences [1], it
would make sense to choose a time that doesn't conflict with other events
around projects close to Beam.

How about for June 21-22 (around Spark Summit) for North America, and
October 5-6 or October 12-13 for Europe?

[1]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LQv95XP9UPhZjGqcMA8JksfcAure-fAp4h3TTjaafRs/edit#gid=1680445982

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 4:45 PM Udi Meiri  wrote:

> +1 for better organization. I would have gone to ApacheCon LV had I known
> there was going to be a Beam summit there.
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:31 AM Alexey Romanenko 
> wrote:
>
>> On 8 Nov 2019, at 11:32, Maximilian Michels  wrote:
>> >
>> > The dates sounds good to me. I agree that the bay area has an advantage
>> because of its large tech community. On the other hand, it is a question of
>> how we run the event. For Berlin we managed to get about 200 attendees to
>> Berlin, but for the BeamSummit in Las Vegas with ApacheCon the attendance
>> was much lower.
>>
>> I agree with your point Max and I believe that it would be more efficient
>> to run Beam Summit as a “standalone" event (as it was done in London and
>> Berlin) which will allow us to attract mostly
>> Beam-oriented/interested/focused audience comparing to running this as part
>> of ApacheCon or any other large conferences where are many other different
>> topics and tracks.
>>
>> > Should this also be discussed on the user mailing list?
>>
>> Definitively! Despite the fact that users opinion is a key point here, it
>> will not be so easy to get not-biased statistics in this question.
>>
>> The time frames are also very important since holidays in different
>> countries (for example, August is traditionally a "vacation month" in
>> France and some other European countries) can effect people availability
>> and influent the final number of participants in the end.
>>
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Max
>> >
>> > On 07.11.19 22:50, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>> >> For date wise, I'm wondering why we should switching the Europe and NA
>> one, this would mean that the Berlin and the new EU summit would be almost
>> 1.5 years apart.
>> >>  _/
>> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:43 PM Ahmet Altay > al...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >>I prefer bay are for NA summit. My reasoning is that there is a
>> >>criticall mass of contributors and users in that location, probably
>> >>more than alternative NA locations. I was not involved with planning
>> >>recently and I do not know if there were people who could attend due
>> >>to location previously. If that is the case, I agree with Elliotte
>> >>on looking for other options.
>> >>Related to dates: March (Asia) and mid-May (NA) dates are a bit
>> >>close. Mid-June for NA might be better to spread events. Other
>> >>pieces looks good.
>> >>Ahmet
>> >>On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:09 AM Elliotte Rusty Harold
>> >>mailto:elh...@ibiblio.org>> wrote:
>> >>The U.S. sadly is not a reliable destination for international
>> >>conferences these days. Almost every conference I go to, big and
>> >>small, has at least one speaker, sometimes more, who can't get
>> into
>> >>the country. Canada seems worth considering. Vancouver,
>> >>Montreal, and
>> >>Toronto are all convenient.
>> >>On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:17 PM Griselda Cuevas > >>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Beam Community!
>> >> >
>> >> > I'd like to kick off a thread to discuss potential dates and
>> >>venues for the 2020 Beam Summits.
>> >> >
>> >> > I did some research on industry conferences happening in 2020
>> >>and pre-selected a few ranges as follows:
>> >> >
>> >> > (2 days) NA between mid-May and mid-June
>> >> > (2 days) EU mid October
>> >> > (1 day) Asia Mini Summit:  March
>> >> >
>> >> > I'd like to hear your thoughts on these dates and get
>> >>consensus on exact dates as the convo progresses.
>> >> >
>> >> > For locations these are the options I reviewed:
>> >> >
>> >> > NA: Austin Texas, Berkeley California, Mexico City.
>> >> > Europe: Warsaw, Barcelona, Paris
>> >> > Asia: Singapore
>> >> >
>> >> > Let the discussion begin!
>> >> > G (on behalf of the Beam Summit Steering Committee)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>-- Elliotte Rusty Harold
>> >>elh...@ibiblio.org 
>>
>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam Summit 2020 Dates & locations

[Ahmet Altay]

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:49 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy 
wrote:

> Maria put together this documents with related industry conferences [1],
> it would make sense to choose a time that doesn't conflict with other
> events around projects close to Beam.
>
> How about for June 21-22 (around Spark Summit) for North America, and
> October 5-6 or October 12-13 for Europe?
>

Sounds good to me. IMO, October 12-13 for Europe is better, in between
related flink and spark summits.


>
> [1]
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LQv95XP9UPhZjGqcMA8JksfcAure-fAp4h3TTjaafRs/edit#gid=1680445982
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 4:45 PM Udi Meiri  wrote:
>
>> +1 for better organization. I would have gone to ApacheCon LV had I known
>> there was going to be a Beam summit there.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:31 AM Alexey Romanenko <
>> aromanenko@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8 Nov 2019, at 11:32, Maximilian Michels  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > The dates sounds good to me. I agree that the bay area has an
>>> advantage because of its large tech community. On the other hand, it is a
>>> question of how we run the event. For Berlin we managed to get about 200
>>> attendees to Berlin, but for the BeamSummit in Las Vegas with ApacheCon the
>>> attendance was much lower.
>>>
>>> I agree with your point Max and I believe that it would be more
>>> efficient to run Beam Summit as a “standalone" event (as it was done in
>>> London and Berlin) which will allow us to attract mostly
>>> Beam-oriented/interested/focused audience comparing to running this as part
>>> of ApacheCon or any other large conferences where are many other different
>>> topics and tracks.
>>>
>>> > Should this also be discussed on the user mailing list?
>>>
>>> Definitively! Despite the fact that users opinion is a key point here,
>>> it will not be so easy to get not-biased statistics in this question.
>>>
>>> The time frames are also very important since holidays in different
>>> countries (for example, August is traditionally a "vacation month" in
>>> France and some other European countries) can effect people availability
>>> and influent the final number of participants in the end.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Max
>>> >
>>> > On 07.11.19 22:50, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>>> >> For date wise, I'm wondering why we should switching the Europe and
>>> NA one, this would mean that the Berlin and the new EU summit would be
>>> almost 1.5 years apart.
>>> >>  _/
>>> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>>> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:43 PM Ahmet Altay >> al...@google.com>> wrote:
>>> >>I prefer bay are for NA summit. My reasoning is that there is a
>>> >>criticall mass of contributors and users in that location, probably
>>> >>more than alternative NA locations. I was not involved with
>>> planning
>>> >>recently and I do not know if there were people who could attend
>>> due
>>> >>to location previously. If that is the case, I agree with Elliotte
>>> >>on looking for other options.
>>> >>Related to dates: March (Asia) and mid-May (NA) dates are a bit
>>> >>close. Mid-June for NA might be better to spread events. Other
>>> >>pieces looks good.
>>> >>Ahmet
>>> >>On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:09 AM Elliotte Rusty Harold
>>> >>mailto:elh...@ibiblio.org>> wrote:
>>> >>The U.S. sadly is not a reliable destination for international
>>> >>conferences these days. Almost every conference I go to, big
>>> and
>>> >>small, has at least one speaker, sometimes more, who can't get
>>> into
>>> >>the country. Canada seems worth considering. Vancouver,
>>> >>Montreal, and
>>> >>Toronto are all convenient.
>>> >>On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:17 PM Griselda Cuevas <
>>> g...@apache.org
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hi Beam Community!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I'd like to kick off a thread to discuss potential dates and
>>> >>venues for the 2020 Beam Summits.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I did some research on industry conferences happening in
>>> 2020
>>> >>and pre-selected a few ranges as follows:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > (2 days) NA between mid-May and mid-June
>>> >> > (2 days) EU mid October
>>> >> > (1 day) Asia Mini Summit:  March
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I'd like to hear your thoughts on these dates and get
>>> >>consensus on exact dates as the convo progresses.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > For locations these are the options I reviewed:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > NA: Austin Texas, Berkeley California, Mexico City.
>>> >> > Europe: Warsaw, Barcelona, Paris
>>> >> > Asia: Singapore
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Let the discussion begin!
>>> >> > G (on behalf of the Beam Summit Steering Committee)
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>-- Elliotte Rusty Harold
>>> >>elh...@ibiblio.org 

Re: [Discuss] Beam Summit 2020 Dates & locations

[Alexey Romanenko]

Probably, it would make sense to wait a bit for October (or September) dates 
since the dates of ApacheCon 2020 have not been officially set and announced 
yet, afaik.

> On 26 Nov 2019, at 03:55, Ahmet Altay  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:49 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy  > wrote:
> Maria put together this documents with related industry conferences [1], it 
> would make sense to choose a time that doesn't conflict with other events 
> around projects close to Beam.
> 
> How about for June 21-22 (around Spark Summit) for North America, and October 
> 5-6 or October 12-13 for Europe?
> 
> Sounds good to me. IMO, October 12-13 for Europe is better, in between 
> related flink and spark summits.
>  
> 
> [1] 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LQv95XP9UPhZjGqcMA8JksfcAure-fAp4h3TTjaafRs/edit#gid=1680445982
>  
> 
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 4:45 PM Udi Meiri  > wrote:
> +1 for better organization. I would have gone to ApacheCon LV had I known 
> there was going to be a Beam summit there.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:31 AM Alexey Romanenko  > wrote:
> On 8 Nov 2019, at 11:32, Maximilian Michels  > wrote:
> > 
> > The dates sounds good to me. I agree that the bay area has an advantage 
> > because of its large tech community. On the other hand, it is a question of 
> > how we run the event. For Berlin we managed to get about 200 attendees to 
> > Berlin, but for the BeamSummit in Las Vegas with ApacheCon the attendance 
> > was much lower.
> 
> I agree with your point Max and I believe that it would be more efficient to 
> run Beam Summit as a “standalone" event (as it was done in London and Berlin) 
> which will allow us to attract mostly Beam-oriented/interested/focused 
> audience comparing to running this as part of ApacheCon or any other large 
> conferences where are many other different topics and tracks.
> 
> > Should this also be discussed on the user mailing list?
> 
> Definitively! Despite the fact that users opinion is a key point here, it 
> will not be so easy to get not-biased statistics in this question. 
> 
> The time frames are also very important since holidays in different countries 
> (for example, August is traditionally a "vacation month" in France and some 
> other European countries) can effect people availability and influent the 
> final number of participants in the end. 
> 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Max
> > 
> > On 07.11.19 22:50, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
> >> For date wise, I'm wondering why we should switching the Europe and NA 
> >> one, this would mean that the Berlin and the new EU summit would be almost 
> >> 1.5 years apart.
> >>  _/
> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:43 PM Ahmet Altay  >>   >> >> wrote:
> >>I prefer bay are for NA summit. My reasoning is that there is a
> >>criticall mass of contributors and users in that location, probably
> >>more than alternative NA locations. I was not involved with planning
> >>recently and I do not know if there were people who could attend due
> >>to location previously. If that is the case, I agree with Elliotte
> >>on looking for other options.
> >>Related to dates: March (Asia) and mid-May (NA) dates are a bit
> >>close. Mid-June for NA might be better to spread events. Other
> >>pieces looks good.
> >>Ahmet
> >>On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:09 AM Elliotte Rusty Harold
> >>mailto:elh...@ibiblio.org> 
> >> >> wrote:
> >>The U.S. sadly is not a reliable destination for international
> >>conferences these days. Almost every conference I go to, big and
> >>small, has at least one speaker, sometimes more, who can't get into
> >>the country. Canada seems worth considering. Vancouver,
> >>Montreal, and
> >>Toronto are all convenient.
> >>On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:17 PM Griselda Cuevas  >> 
> >>>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Beam Community!
> >> >
> >> > I'd like to kick off a thread to discuss potential dates and
> >>venues for the 2020 Beam Summits.
> >> >
> >> > I did some research on industry conferences happening in 2020
> >>and pre-selected a few ranges as follows:
> >> >
> >> > (2 days) NA between mid-May and mid-June
> >> > (2 days) EU mid October
> >> > (1 day) Asia Mini Summit:  March
> >> >
> >> > I'd like to hear your thoughts on these dates and get
> >>consensus on exact dates as the convo progresses.
> >> >
> >> > For locations these are the options I rev

Re: [Discuss] Beam Summit 2020 Dates & locations

[Chad Dombrova]

Hi all,
Did we come to a consensus on dates and locations for the summits?
Particularly interested in the North America Summit.

Thanks,
-chad


On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:26 AM Alexey Romanenko 
wrote:

> Probably, it would make sense to wait a bit for October (or September)
> dates since the dates of ApacheCon 2020 have not been officially set and
> announced yet, afaik.
>
>
> On 26 Nov 2019, at 03:55, Ahmet Altay  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:49 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Maria put together this documents with related industry conferences [1],
>> it would make sense to choose a time that doesn't conflict with other
>> events around projects close to Beam.
>>
>> How about for June 21-22 (around Spark Summit) for North America, and
>> October 5-6 or October 12-13 for Europe?
>>
>
> Sounds good to me. IMO, October 12-13 for Europe is better, in between
> related flink and spark summits.
>
>
>>
>> [1]
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LQv95XP9UPhZjGqcMA8JksfcAure-fAp4h3TTjaafRs/edit#gid=1680445982
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 4:45 PM Udi Meiri  wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for better organization. I would have gone to ApacheCon LV had I
>>> known there was going to be a Beam summit there.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:31 AM Alexey Romanenko <
>>> aromanenko@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 On 8 Nov 2019, at 11:32, Maximilian Michels  wrote:
 >
 > The dates sounds good to me. I agree that the bay area has an
 advantage because of its large tech community. On the other hand, it is a
 question of how we run the event. For Berlin we managed to get about 200
 attendees to Berlin, but for the BeamSummit in Las Vegas with ApacheCon the
 attendance was much lower.

 I agree with your point Max and I believe that it would be more
 efficient to run Beam Summit as a “standalone" event (as it was done in
 London and Berlin) which will allow us to attract mostly
 Beam-oriented/interested/focused audience comparing to running this as part
 of ApacheCon or any other large conferences where are many other different
 topics and tracks.

 > Should this also be discussed on the user mailing list?

 Definitively! Despite the fact that users opinion is a key point here,
 it will not be so easy to get not-biased statistics in this question.

 The time frames are also very important since holidays in different
 countries (for example, August is traditionally a "vacation month" in
 France and some other European countries) can effect people availability
 and influent the final number of participants in the end.

 >
 > Cheers,
 > Max
 >
 > On 07.11.19 22:50, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
 >> For date wise, I'm wondering why we should switching the Europe and
 NA one, this would mean that the Berlin and the new EU summit would be
 almost 1.5 years apart.
 >>  _/
 >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
 >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:43 PM Ahmet Altay >>> > wrote:
 >>I prefer bay are for NA summit. My reasoning is that there is a
 >>criticall mass of contributors and users in that location,
 probably
 >>more than alternative NA locations. I was not involved with
 planning
 >>recently and I do not know if there were people who could attend
 due
 >>to location previously. If that is the case, I agree with Elliotte
 >>on looking for other options.
 >>Related to dates: March (Asia) and mid-May (NA) dates are a bit
 >>close. Mid-June for NA might be better to spread events. Other
 >>pieces looks good.
 >>Ahmet
 >>On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:09 AM Elliotte Rusty Harold
 >>mailto:elh...@ibiblio.org>> wrote:
 >>The U.S. sadly is not a reliable destination for international
 >>conferences these days. Almost every conference I go to, big
 and
 >>small, has at least one speaker, sometimes more, who can't
 get into
 >>the country. Canada seems worth considering. Vancouver,
 >>Montreal, and
 >>Toronto are all convenient.
 >>On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:17 PM Griselda Cuevas <
 g...@apache.org
 >>> wrote:
 >> >
 >> > Hi Beam Community!
 >> >
 >> > I'd like to kick off a thread to discuss potential dates
 and
 >>venues for the 2020 Beam Summits.
 >> >
 >> > I did some research on industry conferences happening in
 2020
 >>and pre-selected a few ranges as follows:
 >> >
 >> > (2 days) NA between mid-May and mid-June
 >> > (2 days) EU mid October
 >> > (1 day) Asia Mini Summit:  March
 >> >
 >> > I'd like to hear your thoughts on these dates and get
 >>conse

Re: [Discuss] Beam Summit 2020 Dates & locations

[Austin Bennett]

We are working on it.  Identifying initial funding sources and other bits
necessary to help make this happen.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:14 PM Chad Dombrova  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Did we come to a consensus on dates and locations for the summits?
> Particularly interested in the North America Summit.
>
> Thanks,
> -chad
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:26 AM Alexey Romanenko 
> wrote:
>
>> Probably, it would make sense to wait a bit for October (or September)
>> dates since the dates of ApacheCon 2020 have not been officially set and
>> announced yet, afaik.
>>
>>
>> On 26 Nov 2019, at 03:55, Ahmet Altay  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:49 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Maria put together this documents with related industry conferences [1],
>>> it would make sense to choose a time that doesn't conflict with other
>>> events around projects close to Beam.
>>>
>>> How about for June 21-22 (around Spark Summit) for North America, and
>>> October 5-6 or October 12-13 for Europe?
>>>
>>
>> Sounds good to me. IMO, October 12-13 for Europe is better, in between
>> related flink and spark summits.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LQv95XP9UPhZjGqcMA8JksfcAure-fAp4h3TTjaafRs/edit#gid=1680445982
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 4:45 PM Udi Meiri  wrote:
>>>
 +1 for better organization. I would have gone to ApacheCon LV had I
 known there was going to be a Beam summit there.

 On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:31 AM Alexey Romanenko <
 aromanenko@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8 Nov 2019, at 11:32, Maximilian Michels  wrote:
> >
> > The dates sounds good to me. I agree that the bay area has an
> advantage because of its large tech community. On the other hand, it is a
> question of how we run the event. For Berlin we managed to get about 200
> attendees to Berlin, but for the BeamSummit in Las Vegas with ApacheCon 
> the
> attendance was much lower.
>
> I agree with your point Max and I believe that it would be more
> efficient to run Beam Summit as a “standalone" event (as it was done in
> London and Berlin) which will allow us to attract mostly
> Beam-oriented/interested/focused audience comparing to running this as 
> part
> of ApacheCon or any other large conferences where are many other different
> topics and tracks.
>
> > Should this also be discussed on the user mailing list?
>
> Definitively! Despite the fact that users opinion is a key point here,
> it will not be so easy to get not-biased statistics in this question.
>
> The time frames are also very important since holidays in different
> countries (for example, August is traditionally a "vacation month" in
> France and some other European countries) can effect people availability
> and influent the final number of participants in the end.
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Max
> >
> > On 07.11.19 22:50, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
> >> For date wise, I'm wondering why we should switching the Europe and
> NA one, this would mean that the Berlin and the new EU summit would be
> almost 1.5 years apart.
> >>  _/
> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:43 PM Ahmet Altay  > wrote:
> >>I prefer bay are for NA summit. My reasoning is that there is a
> >>criticall mass of contributors and users in that location,
> probably
> >>more than alternative NA locations. I was not involved with
> planning
> >>recently and I do not know if there were people who could attend
> due
> >>to location previously. If that is the case, I agree with
> Elliotte
> >>on looking for other options.
> >>Related to dates: March (Asia) and mid-May (NA) dates are a bit
> >>close. Mid-June for NA might be better to spread events. Other
> >>pieces looks good.
> >>Ahmet
> >>On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:09 AM Elliotte Rusty Harold
> >>mailto:elh...@ibiblio.org>> wrote:
> >>The U.S. sadly is not a reliable destination for
> international
> >>conferences these days. Almost every conference I go to, big
> and
> >>small, has at least one speaker, sometimes more, who can't
> get into
> >>the country. Canada seems worth considering. Vancouver,
> >>Montreal, and
> >>Toronto are all convenient.
> >>On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:17 PM Griselda Cuevas <
> g...@apache.org
> >>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Beam Community!
> >> >
> >> > I'd like to kick off a thread to discuss potential dates
> and
> >>venues for the 2020 Beam Summits.
> >> >
> >> > I did some research on industry conferences happening in
> 2020
> >>and p