Re: Forward StackOverflow questions with the apache-beam tag to a new mailing list

[Chamikara Jayalath via dev]

Hi folks,

Thanks for the comments here.

I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-23616 to request
Apache INFRA to create a new email list.
I'll update this thread when INFRA comments on the feasibility of this.

Thanks,
Cham

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 6:35 PM Ahmet Altay  wrote:

> +1 to this idea.
>
> I think both options are reasonable. At the same time I also agree with
> checking with infra first on the feasibility of creating another mailing
> list.
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 10:00 AM Chamikara Jayalath 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 9:18 AM Robert Bradshaw 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 5:15 AM Alexey Romanenko
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Good point about unanswered SO questions. +1 that we need to improve a
>>> situation there.
>>> >
>>> > Yes, we may try to stream them to a new dedicated list but it will
>>> require people here to subscribe to and check regularly one more list which
>>> perhaps won’t be so efficient as well.
>>>
>>> I view the value of a new list as making it easy to choose to
>>> subscribe or not, and being able to respond to questions as they come
>>> in. You're right it's less useful for people who manually check lists
>>> rather than get them in their inbox.
>>>
>>> > I believe that a digest of the N latest unanswered questions to dev@
>>> (or to user@? or both?) every 3-4 days should be a better option.
>>>
>>> We could do this too. Ideally a list of all recent questions (answered
>>> or not, answers can be improved and voted on) if that's technically
>>> feasible.
>>>
>>> IIRC, the current rate is around 10-20 questions a week, so not huge,
>>> but still non-trivial.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, ideally we can do both.
>>
>> (1) Individual questions at a high high frequency to
>> stackoverf...@beam.apache.org so that folks who are interested in
>> answering such questions (and subscribed to the list) get notified early.
>>
>
> As an anecdotal data point: Google as a company has an internal Q&A site
> and creating a similar mailing list had a noticeable impact on the number
> of questions answered. It was a good way to include the broader community
> as well. That said, I do not know if this would similarly apply to stack
> overflow or not.
>
>
>>
>> (2) Aggregated digests at a low frequency to the dev@ and user@ so that
>> we get more eyeballs into questions that go unanswered. Also this will be a
>> good way to get more upvotes for the correct answers.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Cham
>>
>>
>>>
>>> > On 17 Aug 2022, at 04:42, Chamikara Jayalath via dev <
>>> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi folks,
>>> >
>>> > It seems like many of the questions posted to StackOverflow with the
>>> apache-beam tag [1] go unanswered or take more than they should to receive
>>> an acceptable answer.
>>> >
>>> > What do you all think about creating a new mailing list,
>>> stackoverf...@beam.apache.org (assuming Apache Infra is OK with this
>>> and it's technically feasible to do so), where notifications regarding such
>>> questions will be forwarded to ?
>>> >
>>> > This should allow folks who are interested in answering related
>>> questions to get notified early. Hopefully getting more eyeballs on these
>>> questions will increase the response rate (and the quality of the answers).
>>> >
>>> > Another option might be to post such notifications (or aggregations)
>>> to dev@ but this might unnecessarily spam all members of the dev list.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Cham
>>> >
>>> > [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>

Re: Forward StackOverflow questions with the apache-beam tag to a new mailing list

[Ahmet Altay via dev]

+1 to this idea.

I think both options are reasonable. At the same time I also agree with
checking with infra first on the feasibility of creating another mailing
list.

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 10:00 AM Chamikara Jayalath 
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 9:18 AM Robert Bradshaw 
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 5:15 AM Alexey Romanenko
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > Good point about unanswered SO questions. +1 that we need to improve a
>> situation there.
>> >
>> > Yes, we may try to stream them to a new dedicated list but it will
>> require people here to subscribe to and check regularly one more list which
>> perhaps won’t be so efficient as well.
>>
>> I view the value of a new list as making it easy to choose to
>> subscribe or not, and being able to respond to questions as they come
>> in. You're right it's less useful for people who manually check lists
>> rather than get them in their inbox.
>>
>> > I believe that a digest of the N latest unanswered questions to dev@
>> (or to user@? or both?) every 3-4 days should be a better option.
>>
>> We could do this too. Ideally a list of all recent questions (answered
>> or not, answers can be improved and voted on) if that's technically
>> feasible.
>>
>> IIRC, the current rate is around 10-20 questions a week, so not huge,
>> but still non-trivial.
>>
>
> Yeah, ideally we can do both.
>
> (1) Individual questions at a high high frequency to
> stackoverf...@beam.apache.org so that folks who are interested in
> answering such questions (and subscribed to the list) get notified early.
>

As an anecdotal data point: Google as a company has an internal Q&A site
and creating a similar mailing list had a noticeable impact on the number
of questions answered. It was a good way to include the broader community
as well. That said, I do not know if this would similarly apply to stack
overflow or not.


>
> (2) Aggregated digests at a low frequency to the dev@ and user@ so that
> we get more eyeballs into questions that go unanswered. Also this will be a
> good way to get more upvotes for the correct answers.
>
> Thanks,
> Cham
>
>
>>
>> > On 17 Aug 2022, at 04:42, Chamikara Jayalath via dev <
>> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi folks,
>> >
>> > It seems like many of the questions posted to StackOverflow with the
>> apache-beam tag [1] go unanswered or take more than they should to receive
>> an acceptable answer.
>> >
>> > What do you all think about creating a new mailing list,
>> stackoverf...@beam.apache.org (assuming Apache Infra is OK with this and
>> it's technically feasible to do so), where notifications regarding such
>> questions will be forwarded to ?
>> >
>> > This should allow folks who are interested in answering related
>> questions to get notified early. Hopefully getting more eyeballs on these
>> questions will increase the response rate (and the quality of the answers).
>> >
>> > Another option might be to post such notifications (or aggregations) to
>> dev@ but this might unnecessarily spam all members of the dev list.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Cham
>> >
>> > [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam
>> >
>> >
>>
>

Re: Forward StackOverflow questions with the apache-beam tag to a new mailing list

[Chamikara Jayalath via dev]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 9:18 AM Robert Bradshaw  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 5:15 AM Alexey Romanenko
>  wrote:
> >
> > Good point about unanswered SO questions. +1 that we need to improve a
> situation there.
> >
> > Yes, we may try to stream them to a new dedicated list but it will
> require people here to subscribe to and check regularly one more list which
> perhaps won’t be so efficient as well.
>
> I view the value of a new list as making it easy to choose to
> subscribe or not, and being able to respond to questions as they come
> in. You're right it's less useful for people who manually check lists
> rather than get them in their inbox.
>
> > I believe that a digest of the N latest unanswered questions to dev@
> (or to user@? or both?) every 3-4 days should be a better option.
>
> We could do this too. Ideally a list of all recent questions (answered
> or not, answers can be improved and voted on) if that's technically
> feasible.
>
> IIRC, the current rate is around 10-20 questions a week, so not huge,
> but still non-trivial.
>

Yeah, ideally we can do both.

(1) Individual questions at a high high frequency to
stackoverf...@beam.apache.org so that folks who are interested in answering
such questions (and subscribed to the list) get notified early.

(2) Aggregated digests at a low frequency to the dev@ and user@ so that we
get more eyeballs into questions that go unanswered. Also this will be a
good way to get more upvotes for the correct answers.

Thanks,
Cham


>
> > On 17 Aug 2022, at 04:42, Chamikara Jayalath via dev <
> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > It seems like many of the questions posted to StackOverflow with the
> apache-beam tag [1] go unanswered or take more than they should to receive
> an acceptable answer.
> >
> > What do you all think about creating a new mailing list,
> stackoverf...@beam.apache.org (assuming Apache Infra is OK with this and
> it's technically feasible to do so), where notifications regarding such
> questions will be forwarded to ?
> >
> > This should allow folks who are interested in answering related
> questions to get notified early. Hopefully getting more eyeballs on these
> questions will increase the response rate (and the quality of the answers).
> >
> > Another option might be to post such notifications (or aggregations) to
> dev@ but this might unnecessarily spam all members of the dev list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Cham
> >
> > [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam
> >
> >
>

Re: Forward StackOverflow questions with the apache-beam tag to a new mailing list

[Robert Bradshaw via dev]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 5:15 AM Alexey Romanenko
 wrote:
>
> Good point about unanswered SO questions. +1 that we need to improve a 
> situation there.
>
> Yes, we may try to stream them to a new dedicated list but it will require 
> people here to subscribe to and check regularly one more list which perhaps 
> won’t be so efficient as well.

I view the value of a new list as making it easy to choose to
subscribe or not, and being able to respond to questions as they come
in. You're right it's less useful for people who manually check lists
rather than get them in their inbox.

> I believe that a digest of the N latest unanswered questions to dev@ (or to 
> user@? or both?) every 3-4 days should be a better option.

We could do this too. Ideally a list of all recent questions (answered
or not, answers can be improved and voted on) if that's technically
feasible.

IIRC, the current rate is around 10-20 questions a week, so not huge,
but still non-trivial.

> On 17 Aug 2022, at 04:42, Chamikara Jayalath via dev  
> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> It seems like many of the questions posted to StackOverflow with the 
> apache-beam tag [1] go unanswered or take more than they should to receive an 
> acceptable answer.
>
> What do you all think about creating a new mailing list, 
> stackoverf...@beam.apache.org (assuming Apache Infra is OK with this and it's 
> technically feasible to do so), where notifications regarding such questions 
> will be forwarded to ?
>
> This should allow folks who are interested in answering related questions to 
> get notified early. Hopefully getting more eyeballs on these questions will 
> increase the response rate (and the quality of the answers).
>
> Another option might be to post such notifications (or aggregations) to dev@ 
> but this might unnecessarily spam all members of the dev list.
>
> Thanks,
> Cham
>
> [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam
>
>

Re: Forward StackOverflow questions with the apache-beam tag to a new mailing list

[Alexey Romanenko]

Good point about unanswered SO questions. +1 that we need to improve a 
situation there.

Yes, we may try to stream them to a new dedicated list but it will require 
people here to subscribe to and check regularly one more list which perhaps 
won’t be so efficient as well. 

I believe that a digest of the N latest unanswered questions to dev@ (or to 
user@? or both?) every 3-4 days should be a better option.

—
Alexey

> On 17 Aug 2022, at 04:42, Chamikara Jayalath via dev  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> It seems like many of the questions posted to StackOverflow with the 
> apache-beam tag [1] go unanswered or take more than they should to receive an 
> acceptable answer.
> 
> What do you all think about creating a new mailing list, 
> stackoverf...@beam.apache.org  
> (assuming Apache Infra is OK with this and it's technically feasible to do 
> so), where notifications regarding such questions will be forwarded to ?
> 
> This should allow folks who are interested in answering related questions to 
> get notified early. Hopefully getting more eyeballs on these questions will 
> increase the response rate (and the quality of the answers).
> 
> Another option might be to post such notifications (or aggregations) to dev@ 
> but this might unnecessarily spam all members of the dev list.
> 
> Thanks,
> Cham
> 
> [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam 
> 

Forward StackOverflow questions with the apache-beam tag to a new mailing list

[Chamikara Jayalath via dev]

Hi folks,

It seems like many of the questions posted to StackOverflow with the
apache-beam tag [1] go unanswered or take more than they should to receive
an acceptable answer.

What do you all think about creating a new mailing list,
stackoverf...@beam.apache.org (assuming Apache Infra is OK with this and
it's technically feasible to do so), where notifications regarding such
questions will be forwarded to ?

This should allow folks who are interested in answering related questions
to get notified early. Hopefully getting more eyeballs on these questions
will increase the response rate (and the quality of the answers).

Another option might be to post such notifications (or aggregations) to dev@
but this might unnecessarily spam all members of the dev list.

Thanks,
Cham

[1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam

Re: Stackoverflow Questions

[Scott Wegner]

Upon further inspection, I don't think this would be as simple as creating
a StackExchange filter subscribed to user@; the emails sent include an
unsubscribe link, which anyone could click and break the subscription.

[1] https://stackexchange.com/filters/new

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 6:45 AM Thomas Weise  wrote:

> It should be valuable to get a digest of SO questions on user@ (and dev@)
> but I think this should be one-way, i.e. respective questions should be
> answered on SO.
>
> Thomas
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 12:57 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>
>> +user@
>>
>> I think we'd better ask user@ before we subscribe the list to a regular
>> automated email. Daily might be OK for dev@ but I would guess that user@
>> might prefer less frequent. It will have a predictable subject so it should
>> be easy to filter if someone is not interested.
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 12:53 PM Ankur Goenka  wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for the daily/weekly digest to user@
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 10:52 AM Maximilian Michels 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great idea! I'd prefer a daily/weekly digest if possible.
>>>>
>>>> On 05.11.18 19:44, Tim Robertson wrote:
>>>> > Thanks for raising this Anton
>>>> >
>>>> >   It would be very easy to forward new SO questions to the user@
>>>> > list, or a new list if we're worried about the noise.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > +1 (preference on user@ until there are too many)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 7:18 PM Scott Wegner >>> > <mailto:sc...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I like the idea of working to improve the our presence on Q&A
>>>> sites
>>>> > like StackOverflow. SO is a great resource and much more
>>>> > discoverable / searchable than a mail archive.
>>>> >
>>>> > One idea on how to improve our presence: StackOverflow supports
>>>> > setting up email subscriptions [1] for particular tags. It would
>>>> be
>>>> > very easy to forward new SO questions to the user@ list, or a new
>>>> > list if we're worried about the noise.
>>>> >
>>>> > [1] https://stackexchange.com/filters/new
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:54 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>>> j...@nanthrax.net
>>>> > <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > That's "classic" in the Apache projects. And yes, most of the
>>>> > time, we
>>>> > periodically send or ask the dev to check the questions on
>>>> other
>>>> > channels like stackoverflow.
>>>> >
>>>> > It makes sense to send a reminder or a list of open questions
>>>> on the
>>>> > user mailing list (users can help each other too).
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards
>>>> > JB
>>>> >
>>>> > On 05/11/2018 18:25, Anton Kedin wrote:
>>>> >  > Hi dev@,
>>>> >  >
>>>> >  > I was looking at stackoverflow questions tagged with
>>>> > `apache-beam` [1]
>>>> >  > and wanted to ask your opinion. It feels like it's easier
>>>> for
>>>> > some users
>>>> >  > to ask questions on stackoverflow than on user@. Overall
>>>> > frequency
>>>> >  > between the two channels seems comparable but a lot of
>>>> > stackoverflow
>>>> >  > questions are not answered while questions on user@ get
>>>> some
>>>> > attention
>>>> >  > most of the time. Would it make sense to increase dev@
>>>> > visibility into
>>>> >  > stackoverflow, e.g. by sending periodic digest or some
>>>> other way?
>>>> >  >
>>>> >  > [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam
>>>> >  >
>>>> >  > Regards,
>>>> >  > Anton
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> > jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
>>>> > http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> > Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Got feedback? tinyurl.com/swegner-feedback
>>>> > <https://tinyurl.com/swegner-feedback>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>

Re: Stackoverflow Questions

[Thomas Weise]

It should be valuable to get a digest of SO questions on user@ (and dev@)
but I think this should be one-way, i.e. respective questions should be
answered on SO.

Thomas

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 12:57 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:

> +user@
>
> I think we'd better ask user@ before we subscribe the list to a regular
> automated email. Daily might be OK for dev@ but I would guess that user@
> might prefer less frequent. It will have a predictable subject so it should
> be easy to filter if someone is not interested.
>
> Kenn
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 12:53 PM Ankur Goenka  wrote:
>
>> +1 for the daily/weekly digest to user@
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 10:52 AM Maximilian Michels 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Great idea! I'd prefer a daily/weekly digest if possible.
>>>
>>> On 05.11.18 19:44, Tim Robertson wrote:
>>> > Thanks for raising this Anton
>>> >
>>> >   It would be very easy to forward new SO questions to the user@
>>> > list, or a new list if we're worried about the noise.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > +1 (preference on user@ until there are too many)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 7:18 PM Scott Wegner >> > <mailto:sc...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I like the idea of working to improve the our presence on Q&A sites
>>> > like StackOverflow. SO is a great resource and much more
>>> > discoverable / searchable than a mail archive.
>>> >
>>> > One idea on how to improve our presence: StackOverflow supports
>>> > setting up email subscriptions [1] for particular tags. It would be
>>> > very easy to forward new SO questions to the user@ list, or a new
>>> > list if we're worried about the noise.
>>> >
>>> > [1] https://stackexchange.com/filters/new
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:54 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>> j...@nanthrax.net
>>> > <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > That's "classic" in the Apache projects. And yes, most of the
>>> >     time, we
>>> > periodically send or ask the dev to check the questions on
>>> other
>>> > channels like stackoverflow.
>>> >
>>> > It makes sense to send a reminder or a list of open questions
>>> on the
>>> > user mailing list (users can help each other too).
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> > JB
>>> >
>>> > On 05/11/2018 18:25, Anton Kedin wrote:
>>> >  > Hi dev@,
>>> >  >
>>> >  > I was looking at stackoverflow questions tagged with
>>> > `apache-beam` [1]
>>> >  > and wanted to ask your opinion. It feels like it's easier
>>> for
>>> > some users
>>> >  > to ask questions on stackoverflow than on user@. Overall
>>> > frequency
>>> >  > between the two channels seems comparable but a lot of
>>> > stackoverflow
>>> >  > questions are not answered while questions on user@ get
>>> some
>>> > attention
>>> >  > most of the time. Would it make sense to increase dev@
>>> > visibility into
>>> >  > stackoverflow, e.g. by sending periodic digest or some
>>> other way?
>>> >  >
>>> >  > [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam
>>> >  >
>>> >  > Regards,
>>> >  > Anton
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> > jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
>>> > http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> > Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Got feedback? tinyurl.com/swegner-feedback
>>> > <https://tinyurl.com/swegner-feedback>
>>> >
>>>
>>

Re: Stackoverflow Questions

[Robert Bradshaw]

People who ask on SO probably expect to be answered on SO.

I don't think it makes sense to subscribe users to automated emails
like this, but a weekly (or maybe even daily) summary to dev would
probably be helpful in effectively getting these questions answered.
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 9:27 AM Ismaël Mejía  wrote:
>
> Is this somehow bidirectional? or should we then go and answer in SO?
> Asking this because in part the interest of user@ is also to learn
> from other people problems/solutions, so having the answers there
> would be ideal.
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:57 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
> >
> > +user@
> >
> > I think we'd better ask user@ before we subscribe the list to a regular 
> > automated email. Daily might be OK for dev@ but I would guess that user@ 
> > might prefer less frequent. It will have a predictable subject so it should 
> > be easy to filter if someone is not interested.
> >
> > Kenn
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 12:53 PM Ankur Goenka  wrote:
> >>
> >> +1 for the daily/weekly digest to user@
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 10:52 AM Maximilian Michels  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Great idea! I'd prefer a daily/weekly digest if possible.
> >>>
> >>> On 05.11.18 19:44, Tim Robertson wrote:
> >>> > Thanks for raising this Anton
> >>> >
> >>> >   It would be very easy to forward new SO questions to the user@
> >>> > list, or a new list if we're worried about the noise.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > +1 (preference on user@ until there are too many)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 7:18 PM Scott Wegner  >>> > <mailto:sc...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I like the idea of working to improve the our presence on Q&A sites
> >>> > like StackOverflow. SO is a great resource and much more
> >>> > discoverable / searchable than a mail archive.
> >>> >
> >>> > One idea on how to improve our presence: StackOverflow supports
> >>> > setting up email subscriptions [1] for particular tags. It would be
> >>> > very easy to forward new SO questions to the user@ list, or a new
> >>> > list if we're worried about the noise.
> >>> >
> >>> > [1] https://stackexchange.com/filters/new
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:54 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> >>> >  >>> > <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > That's "classic" in the Apache projects. And yes, most of the
> >>> > time, we
> >>> > periodically send or ask the dev to check the questions on other
> >>> > channels like stackoverflow.
> >>> >
> >>> > It makes sense to send a reminder or a list of open questions 
> >>> > on the
> >>> > user mailing list (users can help each other too).
> >>> >
> >>> > Regards
> >>> > JB
> >>> >
> >>> > On 05/11/2018 18:25, Anton Kedin wrote:
> >>> >  > Hi dev@,
> >>> >  >
> >>> >  > I was looking at stackoverflow questions tagged with
> >>> > `apache-beam` [1]
> >>> >  > and wanted to ask your opinion. It feels like it's easier for
> >>> > some users
> >>> >  > to ask questions on stackoverflow than on user@. Overall
> >>> > frequency
> >>> >  > between the two channels seems comparable but a lot of
> >>> > stackoverflow
> >>> >  > questions are not answered while questions on user@ get some
> >>> > attention
> >>> >  > most of the time. Would it make sense to increase dev@
> >>> > visibility into
> >>> >  > stackoverflow, e.g. by sending periodic digest or some other 
> >>> > way?
> >>> >  >
> >>> >  > [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam
> >>> >  >
> >>> >  > Regards,
> >>> >  > Anton
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>> > jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
> >>> > http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>> > Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Got feedback? tinyurl.com/swegner-feedback
> >>> > <https://tinyurl.com/swegner-feedback>
> >>> >

Re: Stackoverflow Questions

[Ismaël Mejía]

Is this somehow bidirectional? or should we then go and answer in SO?
Asking this because in part the interest of user@ is also to learn
from other people problems/solutions, so having the answers there
would be ideal.
On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:57 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>
> +user@
>
> I think we'd better ask user@ before we subscribe the list to a regular 
> automated email. Daily might be OK for dev@ but I would guess that user@ 
> might prefer less frequent. It will have a predictable subject so it should 
> be easy to filter if someone is not interested.
>
> Kenn
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 12:53 PM Ankur Goenka  wrote:
>>
>> +1 for the daily/weekly digest to user@
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 10:52 AM Maximilian Michels  wrote:
>>>
>>> Great idea! I'd prefer a daily/weekly digest if possible.
>>>
>>> On 05.11.18 19:44, Tim Robertson wrote:
>>> > Thanks for raising this Anton
>>> >
>>> >   It would be very easy to forward new SO questions to the user@
>>> > list, or a new list if we're worried about the noise.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > +1 (preference on user@ until there are too many)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 7:18 PM Scott Wegner >> > <mailto:sc...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I like the idea of working to improve the our presence on Q&A sites
>>> > like StackOverflow. SO is a great resource and much more
>>> > discoverable / searchable than a mail archive.
>>> >
>>> > One idea on how to improve our presence: StackOverflow supports
>>> > setting up email subscriptions [1] for particular tags. It would be
>>> > very easy to forward new SO questions to the user@ list, or a new
>>> > list if we're worried about the noise.
>>> >
>>> > [1] https://stackexchange.com/filters/new
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:54 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré >> > <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > That's "classic" in the Apache projects. And yes, most of the
>>> > time, we
>>> > periodically send or ask the dev to check the questions on other
>>> > channels like stackoverflow.
>>> >
>>> > It makes sense to send a reminder or a list of open questions on 
>>> > the
>>> > user mailing list (users can help each other too).
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> > JB
>>> >
>>> > On 05/11/2018 18:25, Anton Kedin wrote:
>>> >  > Hi dev@,
>>> >  >
>>> >  > I was looking at stackoverflow questions tagged with
>>> > `apache-beam` [1]
>>> >  > and wanted to ask your opinion. It feels like it's easier for
>>> > some users
>>> >  > to ask questions on stackoverflow than on user@. Overall
>>> > frequency
>>> >  > between the two channels seems comparable but a lot of
>>> > stackoverflow
>>> >  > questions are not answered while questions on user@ get some
>>> > attention
>>> >  > most of the time. Would it make sense to increase dev@
>>> > visibility into
>>> >  > stackoverflow, e.g. by sending periodic digest or some other 
>>> > way?
>>> >  >
>>> >  > [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam
>>> >  >
>>> >  > Regards,
>>> >  > Anton
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> > jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
>>> > http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> > Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Got feedback? tinyurl.com/swegner-feedback
>>> > <https://tinyurl.com/swegner-feedback>
>>> >

Re: Stackoverflow Questions

[Kenneth Knowles]

+user@

I think we'd better ask user@ before we subscribe the list to a regular
automated email. Daily might be OK for dev@ but I would guess that user@
might prefer less frequent. It will have a predictable subject so it should
be easy to filter if someone is not interested.

Kenn

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 12:53 PM Ankur Goenka  wrote:

> +1 for the daily/weekly digest to user@
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 10:52 AM Maximilian Michels  wrote:
>
>> Great idea! I'd prefer a daily/weekly digest if possible.
>>
>> On 05.11.18 19:44, Tim Robertson wrote:
>> > Thanks for raising this Anton
>> >
>> >   It would be very easy to forward new SO questions to the user@
>> > list, or a new list if we're worried about the noise.
>> >
>> >
>> > +1 (preference on user@ until there are too many)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 7:18 PM Scott Wegner > > <mailto:sc...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I like the idea of working to improve the our presence on Q&A sites
>> > like StackOverflow. SO is a great resource and much more
>> > discoverable / searchable than a mail archive.
>> >
>> > One idea on how to improve our presence: StackOverflow supports
>> > setting up email subscriptions [1] for particular tags. It would be
>> > very easy to forward new SO questions to the user@ list, or a new
>> > list if we're worried about the noise.
>> >
>> > [1] https://stackexchange.com/filters/new
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:54 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>> j...@nanthrax.net
>> > <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> > That's "classic" in the Apache projects. And yes, most of the
>> > time, we
>> > periodically send or ask the dev to check the questions on other
>> >     channels like stackoverflow.
>> >
>> > It makes sense to send a reminder or a list of open questions
>> on the
>> > user mailing list (users can help each other too).
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > JB
>> >
>> > On 05/11/2018 18:25, Anton Kedin wrote:
>> >  > Hi dev@,
>> >  >
>> >  > I was looking at stackoverflow questions tagged with
>> > `apache-beam` [1]
>> >  > and wanted to ask your opinion. It feels like it's easier for
>> > some users
>> >  > to ask questions on stackoverflow than on user@. Overall
>> > frequency
>> >  > between the two channels seems comparable but a lot of
>> > stackoverflow
>> >  > questions are not answered while questions on user@ get some
>> > attention
>> >  > most of the time. Would it make sense to increase dev@
>> > visibility into
>> >  > stackoverflow, e.g. by sending periodic digest or some other
>> way?
>> >  >
>> >  > [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam
>> >  >
>> >  > Regards,
>> >  > Anton
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> > jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
>> > http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> > Talend - http://www.talend.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Got feedback? tinyurl.com/swegner-feedback
>> > <https://tinyurl.com/swegner-feedback>
>> >
>>
>

Re: Stackoverflow Questions

[Ankur Goenka]

+1 for the daily/weekly digest to user@

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 10:52 AM Maximilian Michels  wrote:

> Great idea! I'd prefer a daily/weekly digest if possible.
>
> On 05.11.18 19:44, Tim Robertson wrote:
> > Thanks for raising this Anton
> >
> >   It would be very easy to forward new SO questions to the user@
> > list, or a new list if we're worried about the noise.
> >
> >
> > +1 (preference on user@ until there are too many)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 7:18 PM Scott Wegner  > <mailto:sc...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >
> > I like the idea of working to improve the our presence on Q&A sites
> > like StackOverflow. SO is a great resource and much more
> > discoverable / searchable than a mail archive.
> >
> > One idea on how to improve our presence: StackOverflow supports
> > setting up email subscriptions [1] for particular tags. It would be
> > very easy to forward new SO questions to the user@ list, or a new
> > list if we're worried about the noise.
> >
> > [1] https://stackexchange.com/filters/new
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:54 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré  > <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>> wrote:
> >
> > That's "classic" in the Apache projects. And yes, most of the
> > time, we
> > periodically send or ask the dev to check the questions on other
> > channels like stackoverflow.
> >
> > It makes sense to send a reminder or a list of open questions on
> the
> > user mailing list (users can help each other too).
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On 05/11/2018 18:25, Anton Kedin wrote:
> >  > Hi dev@,
> >  >
> >  > I was looking at stackoverflow questions tagged with
> >     `apache-beam` [1]
> >  > and wanted to ask your opinion. It feels like it's easier for
> > some users
> >  > to ask questions on stackoverflow than on user@. Overall
> > frequency
> >  > between the two channels seems comparable but a lot of
> > stackoverflow
> >  > questions are not answered while questions on user@ get some
> > attention
> >  > most of the time. Would it make sense to increase dev@
> > visibility into
> >  > stackoverflow, e.g. by sending periodic digest or some other
> way?
> >  >
> >  > [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam
> >  >
> >  > Regards,
> >  > Anton
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> > jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
> > http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Got feedback? tinyurl.com/swegner-feedback
> > <https://tinyurl.com/swegner-feedback>
> >
>

Re: Stackoverflow Questions

[Maximilian Michels]

Great idea! I'd prefer a daily/weekly digest if possible.

On 05.11.18 19:44, Tim Robertson wrote:

Thanks for raising this Anton

  It would be very easy to forward new SO questions to the user@
list, or a new list if we're worried about the noise.


+1 (preference on user@ until there are too many)



On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 7:18 PM Scott Wegner <mailto:sc...@apache.org>> wrote:


I like the idea of working to improve the our presence on Q&A sites
like StackOverflow. SO is a great resource and much more
discoverable / searchable than a mail archive.

One idea on how to improve our presence: StackOverflow supports
setting up email subscriptions [1] for particular tags. It would be
very easy to forward new SO questions to the user@ list, or a new
list if we're worried about the noise.

[1] https://stackexchange.com/filters/new

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:54 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>> wrote:

That's "classic" in the Apache projects. And yes, most of the
time, we
periodically send or ask the dev to check the questions on other
channels like stackoverflow.

It makes sense to send a reminder or a list of open questions on the
user mailing list (users can help each other too).

Regards
JB

On 05/11/2018 18:25, Anton Kedin wrote:
 > Hi dev@,
 >
 > I was looking at stackoverflow questions tagged with
`apache-beam` [1]
 > and wanted to ask your opinion. It feels like it's easier for
some users
 > to ask questions on stackoverflow than on user@. Overall
frequency
 > between the two channels seems comparable but a lot of
stackoverflow
 > questions are not answered while questions on user@ get some
attention
 > most of the time. Would it make sense to increase dev@
visibility into
 > stackoverflow, e.g. by sending periodic digest or some other way?
 >
 > [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam
 >
 > Regards,
 > Anton

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Onofré

jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com



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Re: Stackoverflow Questions

[Tim Robertson]

Thanks for raising this Anton


>  It would be very easy to forward new SO questions to the user@ list, or
> a new list if we're worried about the noise.


+1 (preference on user@ until there are too many)



On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 7:18 PM Scott Wegner  wrote:

> I like the idea of working to improve the our presence on Q&A sites like
> StackOverflow. SO is a great resource and much more discoverable /
> searchable than a mail archive.
>
> One idea on how to improve our presence: StackOverflow supports setting up
> email subscriptions [1] for particular tags. It would be very easy to
> forward new SO questions to the user@ list, or a new list if we're
> worried about the noise.
>
> [1] https://stackexchange.com/filters/new
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:54 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> wrote:
>
>> That's "classic" in the Apache projects. And yes, most of the time, we
>> periodically send or ask the dev to check the questions on other
>> channels like stackoverflow.
>>
>> It makes sense to send a reminder or a list of open questions on the
>> user mailing list (users can help each other too).
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 05/11/2018 18:25, Anton Kedin wrote:
>> > Hi dev@,
>> >
>> > I was looking at stackoverflow questions tagged with `apache-beam` [1]
>> > and wanted to ask your opinion. It feels like it's easier for some users
>> > to ask questions on stackoverflow than on user@. Overall frequency
>> > between the two channels seems comparable but a lot of stackoverflow
>> > questions are not answered while questions on user@ get some attention
>> > most of the time. Would it make sense to increase dev@ visibility into
>> > stackoverflow, e.g. by sending periodic digest or some other way?
>> >
>> > [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Anton
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbono...@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
> Got feedback? tinyurl.com/swegner-feedback
>

Re: Stackoverflow Questions

[Scott Wegner]

I like the idea of working to improve the our presence on Q&A sites like
StackOverflow. SO is a great resource and much more discoverable /
searchable than a mail archive.

One idea on how to improve our presence: StackOverflow supports setting up
email subscriptions [1] for particular tags. It would be very easy to
forward new SO questions to the user@ list, or a new list if we're worried
about the noise.

[1] https://stackexchange.com/filters/new

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:54 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:

> That's "classic" in the Apache projects. And yes, most of the time, we
> periodically send or ask the dev to check the questions on other
> channels like stackoverflow.
>
> It makes sense to send a reminder or a list of open questions on the
> user mailing list (users can help each other too).
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 05/11/2018 18:25, Anton Kedin wrote:
> > Hi dev@,
> >
> > I was looking at stackoverflow questions tagged with `apache-beam` [1]
> > and wanted to ask your opinion. It feels like it's easier for some users
> > to ask questions on stackoverflow than on user@. Overall frequency
> > between the two channels seems comparable but a lot of stackoverflow
> > questions are not answered while questions on user@ get some attention
> > most of the time. Would it make sense to increase dev@ visibility into
> > stackoverflow, e.g. by sending periodic digest or some other way?
> >
> > [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam
> >
> > Regards,
> > Anton
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbono...@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>


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Re: Stackoverflow Questions

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

That's "classic" in the Apache projects. And yes, most of the time, we
periodically send or ask the dev to check the questions on other
channels like stackoverflow.

It makes sense to send a reminder or a list of open questions on the
user mailing list (users can help each other too).

Regards
JB

On 05/11/2018 18:25, Anton Kedin wrote:
> Hi dev@,
> 
> I was looking at stackoverflow questions tagged with `apache-beam` [1]
> and wanted to ask your opinion. It feels like it's easier for some users
> to ask questions on stackoverflow than on user@. Overall frequency
> between the two channels seems comparable but a lot of stackoverflow
> questions are not answered while questions on user@ get some attention
> most of the time. Would it make sense to increase dev@ visibility into
> stackoverflow, e.g. by sending periodic digest or some other way?
> 
> [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam
> 
> Regards,
> Anton

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com

Stackoverflow Questions

[Anton Kedin]

Hi dev@,

I was looking at stackoverflow questions tagged with `apache-beam` [1] and
wanted to ask your opinion. It feels like it's easier for some users to ask
questions on stackoverflow than on user@. Overall frequency between the two
channels seems comparable but a lot of stackoverflow questions are not
answered while questions on user@ get some attention most of the time.
Would it make sense to increase dev@ visibility into stackoverflow, e.g. by
sending periodic digest or some other way?

[1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-beam

Regards,
Anton