Re: svn commit: r279762 - in /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X: legal/msv-20030225.jar.license.txt lib/optional/msv-20030225.jar src/blocks/validation/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/validation/Validator.java

2005-09-10 Thread David Crossley
Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> >>>
> >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg18202.html
> >>
> >>Darn... I wish you found that when I posted the license before
> >>committing...
> >>
> >>http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg34406.html
> >
> >The License that Pier shows in msg34406 is not
> >the same one as was commented on in msg18202.
> >The main comments do not match, only the nuclear
> >thing still remains.
> 
> As far as I can see I can't see any difference between the one that  
> was discussed in 2004 (the thread Antonio pointed out) and the one I  
> posted last week:
> 
> Original 2k4 thread:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg18195.html
> 
> My post:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg34406.html

Ah i see now where my extra comments in msg18202 came from:
I refererred to an additional file called "copyright.txt"
which must have had extra restrictions. Don't know if
that is still the same today.

Anyway, legal-discuss@ is the place to take it and if
it gets complex then Cliff will probably pick up the
issue from there.

-David


Re: svn commit: r279762 - in /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X: legal/msv-20030225.jar.license.txt lib/optional/msv-20030225.jar src/blocks/validation/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/validation/Validator.java

2005-09-10 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Sunday 11 September 2005 09:24, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> Skolnick or Wooley?

Cliff Schmidt


Cheers
Niclas


Re: svn commit: r279762 - in /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X: legal/msv-20030225.jar.license.txt lib/optional/msv-20030225.jar src/blocks/validation/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/validation/Validator.java

2005-09-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli

On 11 Sep 2005, at 01:23, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:


We have a Legal VP now :-)

Pier, if you want to use that code, send a comment to Cliff.


Skolnick or Wooley?

Also, we could also tell sun to remove that clause or to relicense  
under CDDL.


Nah, just make some mock classes and re-distribute... We've got 90%  
of the functionality in there implemented. Someone smart might even  
be able to use Xerces to do DTD validation, rather than using MSV.


For now, I just want to finalize the API for validation and clean up  
that block...


Pier



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Re: svn commit: r279762 - in /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X: legal/msv-20030225.jar.license.txt lib/optional/msv-20030225.jar src/blocks/validation/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/validation/Validator.java

2005-09-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli

On 11 Sep 2005, at 01:19, David Crossley wrote:


I found it!

http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg18202.html



Darn... I wish you found that when I posted the license before
committing...

http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg34406.html


The License that Pier shows in msg34406 is not
the same one as was commented on in msg18202.
The main comments do not match, only the nuclear
thing still remains.


As far as I can see I can't see any difference between the one that  
was discussed in 2004 (the thread Antonio pointed out) and the one I  
posted last week:


Original 2k4 thread:

http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg18195.html

My post:

http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg34406.html

Pier



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svn line-endings config (Was: svn commit: r279905 - in /cocoon/site/site/link: livesites-2.1.html livesites-2.1.pdf)

2005-09-10 Thread David Crossley
Erk, something went wrong. This generated file has Windows
end-of-line markers, so that makes it look like the whole
file was changed. It is not your fault Jorg. The svn:eol-style
property is not set, so this is the effect. Each time someone
generates it on different platforms, then line endings will
change and therefore huge diffs.

I will try to clean up the mess.

Would everyone please make sure that their SVN client
is properly configured.

http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html#https-svn

-David

> Author: jheymans
> Date: Fri Sep  9 15:57:35 2005
> New Revision: 279905
> 
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=279905&view=rev
> Log:
> publishing new livesites
> 
> Modified:
> cocoon/site/site/link/livesites-2.1.html
> cocoon/site/site/link/livesites-2.1.pdf
> 
> Modified: cocoon/site/site/link/livesites-2.1.html
> URL: 
> http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/cocoon/site/site/link/livesites-2.1.html?rev=279905&r1=279904&r2=279905&view=diff
> ==
> --- cocoon/site/site/link/livesites-2.1.html (original)
> +++ cocoon/site/site/link/livesites-2.1.html Fri Sep  9 15:57:35 2005
> @@ -1,687 +1,821 @@
> - "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd";>
> -
> -


Re: svn commit: r279762 - in /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X: legal/msv-20030225.jar.license.txt lib/optional/msv-20030225.jar src/blocks/validation/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/validation/Validator.java

2005-09-10 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi

David Crossley wrote:

Pier Fumagalli wrote:


Antonio Gallardo wrote:


Ralph Goers wrote:


Ralph Goers wrote:

I seem to remember reading on legal-discuss that the "nuclear  
clause" is incompatible with the ASL.  If true, any components  
with such a license can not be disctributed with our code or  
reside in SVN.


Ralph




Faulty memory.  The only reference I could find was at http:// 
wiki.apache.org/jakarta/LicenceIssues which, of course, is not  
"official" ASF policy.


I found it!

http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg18202.html


Darn... I wish you found that when I posted the license before  
committing...


http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg34406.html



The License that Pier shows in msg34406 is not
the same one as was commented on in msg18202.
The main comments do not match, only the nuclear
thing still remains.

We are not lawyers, so someone should clear this up
with the ASF license-discuss list.


We have a Legal VP now :-)

Pier, if you want to use that code, send a comment to Cliff.

Also, we could also tell sun to remove that clause or to relicense under 
CDDL.


--
Stefano.



Re: svn commit: r279762 - in /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X: legal/msv-20030225.jar.license.txt lib/optional/msv-20030225.jar src/blocks/validation/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/validation/Validator.java

2005-09-10 Thread David Crossley
Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> >Ralph Goers wrote:
> >>Ralph Goers wrote:
> >>>
> >>>I seem to remember reading on legal-discuss that the "nuclear  
> >>>clause" is incompatible with the ASL.  If true, any components  
> >>>with such a license can not be disctributed with our code or  
> >>>reside in SVN.
> >>>
> >>>Ralph
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Faulty memory.  The only reference I could find was at http:// 
> >>wiki.apache.org/jakarta/LicenceIssues which, of course, is not  
> >>"official" ASF policy.
> >
> >I found it!
> >
> >http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg18202.html
> 
> Darn... I wish you found that when I posted the license before  
> committing...
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg34406.html

The License that Pier shows in msg34406 is not
the same one as was commented on in msg18202.
The main comments do not match, only the nuclear
thing still remains.

We are not lawyers, so someone should clear this up
with the ASF license-discuss list.

-David


Re: svn commit: r279762 - in /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X: legal/msv-20030225.jar.license.txt lib/optional/msv-20030225.jar src/blocks/validation/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/validation/Validator.java

2005-09-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli

On 10 Sep 2005, at 20:17, Antonio Gallardo wrote:

Ralph Goers wrote:

Ralph Goers wrote:


I seem to remember reading on legal-discuss that the "nuclear  
clause" is incompatible with the ASL.  If true, any components  
with such a license can not be disctributed with our code or  
reside in SVN.


Ralph


Faulty memory.  The only reference I could find was at http:// 
wiki.apache.org/jakarta/LicenceIssues which, of course, is not  
"official" ASF policy.


I found it!

http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg18202.html


Darn... I wish you found that when I posted the license before  
committing...


http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg34406.html

Pier



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Re: svn commit: r279762 - in /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X: legal/msv-20030225.jar.license.txt lib/optional/msv-20030225.jar src/blocks/validation/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/validation/Validator.java

2005-09-10 Thread Antonio Gallardo

Ralph Goers wrote:


Ralph Goers wrote:



I seem to remember reading on legal-discuss that the "nuclear clause" 
is incompatible with the ASL.  If true, any components with such a 
license can not be disctributed with our code or reside in SVN.


Ralph

Faulty memory.  The only reference I could find was at 
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/LicenceIssues which, of course, is not 
"official" ASF policy.


I found it!

http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg18202.html

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo



Ralph





Re: cocoon maven repository

2005-09-10 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Saturday 10 September 2005 23:33, Jorg Heymans wrote:
> Stefan Podkowinski wrote:
> > The project will be hosted on sourceforge so I can't really setup my
> > own repository for this. Another option would be to ship dependencies
> > not available on public repos with my distribution. But I want do
> > avoid this if possible to keep download size for updates as small as
> > possible.
>
> Actually, i think we have created a small m2 cocoon repository somewhere
> on the Apache servers. I can't remember exactly where and how, but
> possibly we could provide an m1 style repository as well.

There is a general "avoid snapshots" policy for ASF repositories, as they will 
not be guaranteed to be there 'forever' which may cause trouble to users, and 
a "no snapshot" policy for the repository that gets replicated to 
ibiblio.org.

If special builds, snapshots and what not can't be avoided, the best practice 
is probably to ship those explicitly.


Cheers
Niclas


Re: cocoon maven repository

2005-09-10 Thread Jorg Heymans

Stefan Podkowinski wrote:
> The project will be hosted on sourceforge so I can't really setup my
> own repository for this. Another option would be to ship dependencies
> not available on public repos with my distribution. But I want do
> avoid this if possible to keep download size for updates as small as
> possible.
> 

Actually, i think we have created a small m2 cocoon repository somewhere
on the Apache servers. I can't remember exactly where and how, but
possibly we could provide an m1 style repository as well.

WDOT?

Jorg



Re: cocoon maven repository

2005-09-10 Thread Stefan Podkowinski
The project will be hosted on sourceforge so I can't really setup my
own repository for this. Another option would be to ship dependencies
not available on public repos with my distribution. But I want do
avoid this if possible to keep download size for updates as small as
possible.

On 9/10/05, Jorg Heymans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Stefan Podkowinski wrote:
> 
> > I'm currently working on a project that does bundle the cform and
> > portal block + core classes and is being build by maven1. This works
> > quite well, the only problem is that some of cocoons dependencies
> > cannot be found in the well known public repositories, mostly
> > snapshot/dated jars such as rhino.
> >
> I usually put these in a company-wide maven proxy [1], not a perfect
> solution but for apps deployed inside the company domain it does the trick.
> 
> > dependences. Creating pom descriptors for each block would also be
> > helpfull.
> 
> pom descriptors are being created for every block yes.
> 
> 
> Regards
> Jorg
> 
> [1] http://maven-proxy.codehaus.org/
> 
>


Re: cocoon maven repository

2005-09-10 Thread Jorg Heymans

Stefan Podkowinski wrote:

> I'm currently working on a project that does bundle the cform and
> portal block + core classes and is being build by maven1. This works
> quite well, the only problem is that some of cocoons dependencies
> cannot be found in the well known public repositories, mostly
> snapshot/dated jars such as rhino.
> 
I usually put these in a company-wide maven proxy [1], not a perfect
solution but for apps deployed inside the company domain it does the trick.

> dependences. Creating pom descriptors for each block would also be
> helpfull.

pom descriptors are being created for every block yes.


Regards
Jorg

[1] http://maven-proxy.codehaus.org/



cocoon maven repository

2005-09-10 Thread Stefan Podkowinski
Hi Dev Team

I'm currently working on a project that does bundle the cform and
portal block + core classes and is being build by maven1. This works
quite well, the only problem is that some of cocoons dependencies
cannot be found in the well known public repositories, mostly
snapshot/dated jars such as rhino.

Now I noticed that you guys are porting the whole cocoon project to
maven2. How are you managing dependencies? It would be great if you
could support maven1 as well by providing a remote repo with the
dependences. Creating pom descriptors for each block would also be
helpfull.

Regards,
Stefan


Re: [vote] Arje Cahn as a new Cocoon committer

2005-09-10 Thread Guido Casper

Sylvain Wallez wrote:
I'd like to be the voice of a general opinion among Cocoon developers 
that Arjé Cahn should be made a Cocoon committer.


+1

Guido


Re: [vote] Arje Cahn as a new Cocoon committer

2005-09-10 Thread Giacomo Pati

On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Sylvain Wallez wrote:

I'd like to be the voice of a general opinion among Cocoon developers that 
Arjé Cahn should be made a Cocoon committer.



Please cast your votes!


+1

Giacomo

Re: Tree view?

2005-09-10 Thread Sylvain Wallez

Ralph Goers wrote:

Does CForms provide any way of generating a tree view?  I was looking 
at http://www.tonymarston.net/xml-xsl/xml-and-xsl-treeview.html and 
would like to do something similar, but I'd like to use CForms to do 
it.  I would also like to not have to collect all the data for the 
whole tree, but only collect data when a node is expanded.



That's exactly the purpose of the Tree widget that was added in trunk 
some time ago [1]. It has a lightweight tree model that loads data on 
demand. I will port this widget to 2.1 very soon.


Sylvain

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=111894513815242&w=2

--
Sylvain WallezAnyware Technologies
http://people.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com
Apache Software Foundation Member Research & Technology Director



Re: howto update the website using forrest (was Re: patch commit request)

2005-09-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz

Le 10 sept. 05, à 01:06, Jorg Heymans a écrit :
...The updated livesites page is now on minotaur. It is not visible to 
the
outside world yet, there's probably a cache in between waiting to 
expire...


Websites are replicated from there to the machine that serves the 
public sites, every few hours.

That's the why changes don't appear immediately.

-Bertrand


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