[Dorset] Recommendation.

2009-12-03 Thread Simon O'Riordan
Couldn't make it last night; travelling back from Bristol was tiring and 
dangerous, so I didn't fancy another round.
This morning I took delivery of my HomeHub2.0 router, bought for £25 new off 
e-bay(rrp£90).
To my dismay, it doesn't support DynDNS services, so my web site was shot.
Looking around I found a company called EvoHosting.
EvoHosting starts at £2.50 a month, and for this you get a free, PROPER Domain 
name and things like an FTP server and support for SSL and commerce.
My site took half an hour to set up.
http://www.simonoriordan.com
Simono
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Re: [Dorset] Recommendation.

2009-12-07 Thread Chris Dennis
Simon O'Riordan wrote:
> Couldn't make it last night; travelling back from Bristol was tiring and 
> dangerous, so I didn't fancy another round.
> This morning I took delivery of my HomeHub2.0 router, bought for £25 new off 
> e-bay(rrp£90).
> To my dismay, it doesn't support DynDNS services, so my web site was shot.

DynDNS doesn't necessarily require router support -- you can run a 
service on Linux or Windows to keep the dynamic address up to date.

HTH

Chris

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Re: [Dorset] Recommendation.

2009-12-07 Thread Tim Allen
On 07/12/09 15:41, Chris Dennis wrote:
> Simon O'Riordan wrote:
>> Couldn't make it last night; travelling back from Bristol was tiring and 
>> dangerous, so I didn't fancy another round.
>> This morning I took delivery of my HomeHub2.0 router, bought for £25 new off 
>> e-bay(rrp£90).
>> To my dismay, it doesn't support DynDNS services, so my web site was shot.
> 
> DynDNS doesn't necessarily require router support -- you can run a 
> service on Linux or Windows to keep the dynamic address up to date.

In fact DynDNS prefer you not to use a router to avoid falling foul of 
their abuse T&C. From memory, for the free service you mustn't update 
more often than 28 days, but if you don't update every 30 days they 
assume the account's dormant - which leaves 29 days as the preferred 
interval!

Cheers

Tim


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Re: [Dorset] Recommendation.

2009-12-07 Thread Simon O'Riordan
I have been aware of the client, but for the cost of the electricity a 
commercial account is better. I have a sensible domain name as well.
Simono
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From: "Chris Dennis" 
To: "Dorset Linux User Group" 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Dorset] Recommendation.


Simon O'Riordan wrote:
> Couldn't make it last night; travelling back from Bristol was tiring and 
> dangerous, so I didn't fancy another round.
> This morning I took delivery of my HomeHub2.0 router, bought for £25 new 
> off e-bay(rrp£90).
> To my dismay, it doesn't support DynDNS services, so my web site was shot.

DynDNS doesn't necessarily require router support -- you can run a
service on Linux or Windows to keep the dynamic address up to date.

HTH

Chris

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Re: [Dorset] Recommendation.

2009-12-07 Thread Robert Bronsdon
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:32:12 -, Simon O'Riordan  
 wrote:

> I have been aware of the client, but for the cost of the electricity a
> commercial account is better. I have a sensible domain name as well.

 From this conversation I am getting the impression you are not running the  
client on the same machine as the web server. Is there any reason for this?

Rob


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Re: [Dorset] Recommendation.

2009-12-07 Thread Chris Dennis
Tim Allen wrote:
> On 07/12/09 15:41, Chris Dennis wrote:
>> Simon O'Riordan wrote:
>>> Couldn't make it last night; travelling back from Bristol was tiring and 
>>> dangerous, so I didn't fancy another round.
>>> This morning I took delivery of my HomeHub2.0 router, bought for £25 new 
>>> off e-bay(rrp£90).
>>> To my dismay, it doesn't support DynDNS services, so my web site was shot.
>> DynDNS doesn't necessarily require router support -- you can run a 
>> service on Linux or Windows to keep the dynamic address up to date.
> 
> In fact DynDNS prefer you not to use a router to avoid falling foul of 
> their abuse T&C. From memory, for the free service you mustn't update 
> more often than 28 days, 

That doesn't sound right.  Where does it say that?

cheers

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Re: [Dorset] Recommendation.

2009-12-07 Thread Simon O'Riordan
I'm not running any kind of server anymore.
Previously I had a built-in DynDNS account with my Voyager 220 router. This 
was kindly provided by BT, and I didn't need either a static url or a client 
as the computer was a server, was never switched off and so DHCP only 
changed it once in three years.
Port forwarding was very simple.
Simono
- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Bronsdon" 
To: "Dorset Linux User Group" 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Dorset] Recommendation.


> On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:32:12 -, Simon O'Riordan
>  wrote:
>
>> I have been aware of the client, but for the cost of the electricity a
>> commercial account is better. I have a sensible domain name as well.
>
> From this conversation I am getting the impression you are not running the
> client on the same machine as the web server. Is there any reason for 
> this?
>
> Rob
>
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Re: [Dorset] Recommendation.

2009-12-10 Thread Tim Allen
On 07/12/09 18:51, Chris Dennis wrote:
> Tim Allen wrote:
>> On 07/12/09 15:41, Chris Dennis wrote:
>>> Simon O'Riordan wrote:
 Couldn't make it last night; travelling back from Bristol was tiring and 
 dangerous, so I didn't fancy another round.
 This morning I took delivery of my HomeHub2.0 router, bought for £25 new 
 off e-bay(rrp£90).
 To my dismay, it doesn't support DynDNS services, so my web site was shot.
>>> DynDNS doesn't necessarily require router support -- you can run a 
>>> service on Linux or Windows to keep the dynamic address up to date.
>> In fact DynDNS prefer you not to use a router to avoid falling foul of 
>> their abuse T&C. From memory, for the free service you mustn't update 
>> more often than 28 days, 
> 
> That doesn't sound right.  Where does it say that?

Re preferred update clients over routers:

http://www.dyndns.com/support/clients/



Re 28 day/30 day window:

http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/readme.html#abuse



Cheers

Tim



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Re: [Dorset] Recommendation.

2009-12-10 Thread John Carlyle-Clarke
On 10/12/09 11:38, Tim Allen wrote:
> Re 28 day/30 day window:
>
> http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/readme.html#abuse
>
 From reading that, my interpretation is that an "abusive" update is an 
update containing the same IP address.  "Dozens" of these are allowed 
before an account is blocked, to allow for things like setting up new 
clients, etc.  An update of the same IP address is allowed every 28 days 
in order to avoid the 30 day inactivity timeout.  However, if your 
address changes more frequently than every 30 days you will not have any 
problems.


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Re: [Dorset] Recommendation.

2009-12-10 Thread Tim Allen
On 10/12/09 12:33, John Carlyle-Clarke wrote:
> On 10/12/09 11:38, Tim Allen wrote:
>> Re 28 day/30 day window:
>>
>> http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/readme.html#abuse
>>
>  From reading that, my interpretation is that an "abusive" update is an 
> update containing the same IP address.  "Dozens" of these are allowed 
> before an account is blocked, to allow for things like setting up new 
> clients, etc.  An update of the same IP address is allowed every 28 days 
> in order to avoid the 30 day inactivity timeout.  However, if your 
> address changes more frequently than every 30 days you will not have any 
> problems.
> 
> 
Yes, obviously being unable to update with a new IP address would make 
the service useless. Also, I agree that there has to be, and is, leeway 
on this - for a start I doubt the clients remember the last update 
across a machine reboot.

Tim

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Re: [Dorset] Recommendation.

2009-12-10 Thread Chris Dennis
John Carlyle-Clarke wrote:
> On 10/12/09 11:38, Tim Allen wrote:
>> Re 28 day/30 day window:
>>
>> http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/readme.html#abuse
>>
>  From reading that, my interpretation is that an "abusive" update is an 
> update containing the same IP address.  "Dozens" of these are allowed 
> before an account is blocked, to allow for things like setting up new 
> clients, etc.  An update of the same IP address is allowed every 28 days 
> in order to avoid the 30 day inactivity timeout.  However, if your 
> address changes more frequently than every 30 days you will not have any 
> problems.
> 
> 

Thank you Tim and John.

For some reason my little brain had got it all wrong: I was confusing 
ddclient's IP-checking frequency (typically every few minutes) with its 
DynDNS-updating frequency, which obviously only happens rarely, when the 
IP address changes.

My DynDNS account hasn't expired and I don't think that the IP address 
has changed.  Does that mean that ddclient is clever enough to 
automatically contact DynDNS every 28 days even if the IP address is the 
same?

cheers

Chris
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Re: [Dorset] Recommendation.

2009-12-10 Thread Tim Allen
On 10/12/09 15:07, Chris Dennis wrote:
> 
> Thank you Tim and John.
> 
> For some reason my little brain had got it all wrong: I was confusing 
> ddclient's IP-checking frequency (typically every few minutes) with its 
> DynDNS-updating frequency, which obviously only happens rarely, when the 
> IP address changes.
> 
> My DynDNS account hasn't expired and I don't think that the IP address 
> has changed.  Does that mean that ddclient is clever enough to 
> automatically contact DynDNS every 28 days even if the IP address is the 
> same?
> 
I'm using inadyn and I have these two lines in the /etc/inadyn.conf file:

update_period_sec 600   # Fair usage policy
forced_update_period 2505600# 29 days (60x60x24x29 secs)


ddclient should have something similar.

Cheers

Tim

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