Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 14 December 2014 10:44:08 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine
And Gene did reply:
> I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a
> flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill
> F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they
> said yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and
> repeats. The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the
> monitor and cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor
> hooked up to the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another
> and it does the same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci
> slots. What do you think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it
> for another. It cost about $14.00 to send it back.
> 
> Richard

My best guess is that due to static while handling, that memory is duff, 
test with another known good stick, and follow static control procedures 
when you handle it after its been removed from its anti-static shipping 
bag.
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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[Gregg Eshelman]

On 12/15/2014 3:43 PM, Matt Tucci wrote:
> 3 beeps, no ram installed, won't be any video because it still hasn't
> booted to bios. Incompatible ram seems like it could be your issue, but 2
> bad motherboards out of the box? I have never had one out of the box bad in
> 25 years.

I had one a few months ago that lasted just long enough to get Windows 
8.1 installed. The replacement didn't last but a couple of minutes.

So I sent the second one back for a refund and bought a completely 
different board from a different place and it's been working fine.


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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[Rafael Skodlar]

following this for a while ... but

On 12/15/2014 02:43 PM, Matt Tucci wrote:
> 3 beeps, no ram installed, won't be any video because it still hasn't
> booted to bios. Incompatible ram seems like it could be your issue, but 2

that is not correct. PCs do not boot into BIOS. BIOS is the code that 
runs self tests and initiate bootup from the selected peripheral. Some 
advanced BIOS boot mini version of Linux but that's not common 
unfortunately. Blame Microsoft.

It's the BIOS code that makes beeps when self test detects an error. 
Beeps are somewhat standard. http://www.biosflash.com/e/bios-beeps.htm

> bad motherboards out of the box? I have never had one out of the box bad in
> 25 years. Anytime something was screwed up, it was something I did. Also
> Keep in mind that some motherboards want a certain wattage Power Supply. My

That statement is inaccurate. All motherboards require "certain wattage" 
whatever that be. It all depends on the chipset, type of memory and CPU. 
What's also important is peripherals such as disk drives, internal tape 
drives, video cards, etc.

> Daughter built a computer last year, i gave her a P.S. (450 watts), I had
> and it wouldn't boot, it was 50 watts less than the MB recommended, went to
> microcenter got a 700 watt and it has been fine. Good Luck.

That's suspicious to me. My system with 4 core CPU, 12 GB of memory, and 
Nvidia video card is happy with 450W PSU. Unless that PC has more stuff 
in it, 450W should be sufficient.

I work with 1U or 2U servers here and there and they do not use that 
much power, over 450W, with 2 multicore CPUs.

http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 3:11 PM,  wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, jrmitchellj . wrote:
>>
>>> In the past, some of the motherboards I have bought came with the CMOS
>>> jumper in the reset position.  That holds the system settings in a
>> cleared
>>> and won't allow the system to start.  You may want to check for  that.
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> --J. Ray Mitchell Jr.
>>> jrmitche...@gmail.com
>>> (818)324-7573

Mixing old memory with new motherboard is most likely the issue here. 
Make sure you have memory type that manual recommends and your PC will 
help you cut material soon.

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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[Matt Tucci]

3 beeps, no ram installed, won't be any video because it still hasn't
booted to bios. Incompatible ram seems like it could be your issue, but 2
bad motherboards out of the box? I have never had one out of the box bad in
25 years. Anytime something was screwed up, it was something I did. Also
Keep in mind that some motherboards want a certain wattage Power Supply. My
Daughter built a computer last year, i gave her a P.S. (450 watts), I had
and it wouldn't boot, it was 50 watts less than the MB recommended, went to
microcenter got a 700 watt and it has been fine. Good Luck.

On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 3:11 PM,  wrote:
>
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, jrmitchellj . wrote:
>
> > In the past, some of the motherboards I have bought came with the CMOS
> > jumper in the reset position.  That holds the system settings in a
> cleared
> > and won't allow the system to start.  You may want to check for  that.
> >
> > Ray
> >
> > --J. Ray Mitchell Jr.
> > jrmitche...@gmail.com
> > (818)324-7573
> >
> >
> > The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty,
> > understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system.
> > And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,
> > egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men admire
> > the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.
> > -John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:23 AM,  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Chris Morley wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Is the memory in the right slot?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my HTC
> >>>
> >>> - Reply message -
> >>> From: kqt4a...@gmail.com
> >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>>
> >>> Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
> >>> Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 9:59 AM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Dave Cole wrote:
> >>>
>  Peter is right.   You need to read the manual.   Motherboards beep in
>  codes on startup if something is wrong.
> 
>  Do you have the 4pin power plug jack connected on the MB?   I think
> the
>  1900's all require those to be connected to the power supply.
> 
>  Otherwise beep code!
> 
>  Dave
> 
>  On 12/14/2014 11:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote:
> > When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e
> certain
> > meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in
> the
> > internet, if you don't have a manual.
> > Peter
> >
> > Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com:
> >> I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing.
> Not
> >> a
> >> flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have,
> G.Skill
> >> F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they
> >> said
> >> yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and
> >> repeats.
> >> The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor
> >> and
> >> cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up
> >> to
> >> the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does
> >> the
> >> same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do
> >> you
> >> think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It
> cost
> >> about $14.00 to send it back.
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The beeps only occur with no memory installed otherwise silence. I have
> >>> the 20 + 4 power plugged in. This board does not have a 4 pin plug for
> >>> cpu. The manual does not have any info requarding beep code.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The manual says with one stick to put it in A as I initially did. I also
> >> tried B just for the hell of it :)
> >>
> >>
>
> As an act of desperation I tried clearing the cmos. Still no go.
>
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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[Gregg Eshelman]

On 12/14/2014 11:00 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Peter C. Wallace wrote:

>> I guess I would start to suspect that you "free" RAM was bad...
>>
>
> He pulled  it from a running system. He wanted to get bigger sticks. Even
> without memory should not I get a video signal? Monitor reports "no vga
> signal". I think I am just screwed.

No memory = no worky. ;P A computer must have functional RAM in a 
supported configuration, and it must have a functional CPU that is 
supported both by the hardware and by the power supply capability of the 
board.

The CPU and RAM and some other parts have to pass the POST before the 
system gets around to looking for and turning on video.

Something else to check, both Intel and AMD have produced various CPUs 
that will plug into sockets they are not at all compatible with. If you 
are lucky all that will happen is the computer will do nothing instead 
of destroying the CPU with too much power or power applied to data 
connections.

I've been working with and on PC systems for 32 years now, seen a lot of 
crazy things with the hardware.

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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[Gregg Eshelman]

On 12/14/2014 9:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote:
> When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain
> meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the
> internet, if you don't have a manual.
> Peter

Without the RAM installed, all the beeps will tell you is there's no 
RAM. One of those tell me something I don't already know bleedin obvious 
error messages. ;)

Kind of like how pre-1996 GM cars if you shorted the contacts in the 
ALDL and the only code the light blinked was 12, telling you the engine 
isn't running. Useless when you're attempting to discover *why* the 
engine will not run.

When troubleshooting a PC board that won't boot, the first thing is to 
install the minimum amount of supported RAM.

If the CPU is removable, you'll need one you know is supported by an 
older BIOS. Typically the BIOS chip will have a label with the revision 
number installed at manufacture. If that one doesn't support the CPU you 
want to use but a newer version does, you'll have to scrounge up an 
older/slower CPU just to use for updating the BIOS.

Some boards will go ahead and boot with an unrecognized CPU but will 
lock to a slow speed and may also prevent any setup changes.

But for a RAM configuration that's not supported, not going to boot.

Get a POST (Power On Self Test) card. They have two 7-segment LED 
displays that cycle through 2 digit hexadecimal numbers during POST and 
should end on FF (a few manufacturers don't end POST with FF), followed 
by beginning to boot the operating system.

If it stops partway through, the code it stops on, or the one just 
before it stops, will tell you what may be holding it up. 'Course if 
it's a non-removable part the board is toast, unless you want to ship it 
off to someone with an SMT rework setup and can find replacement components.

If the POST display instantly goes to FF when you hit the power button, 
that's most likely a bad CPU, or something major wrong with the board, 
such as a way out of spec or non-functioning power supply to the CPU.

A POST card can be bought for a few dollars and can be very helpful, 
especially when you need to prove that a brand new motherboard is defekt.

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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[kqt4at5v]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, jrmitchellj . wrote:

> In the past, some of the motherboards I have bought came with the CMOS
> jumper in the reset position.  That holds the system settings in a cleared
> and won't allow the system to start.  You may want to check for  that.
>
> Ray
>
> --J. Ray Mitchell Jr.
> jrmitche...@gmail.com
> (818)324-7573
>
>
> The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty,
> understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system.
> And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,
> egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men admire
> the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.
> -John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:23 AM,  wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Chris Morley wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Is the memory in the right slot?
>>>
>>> Sent from my HTC
>>>
>>> - Reply message -
>>> From: kqt4a...@gmail.com
>>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >>
>>> Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
>>> Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 9:59 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>
 Peter is right.   You need to read the manual.   Motherboards beep in
 codes on startup if something is wrong.

 Do you have the 4pin power plug jack connected on the MB?   I think the
 1900's all require those to be connected to the power supply.

 Otherwise beep code!

 Dave

 On 12/14/2014 11:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote:
> When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain
> meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the
> internet, if you don't have a manual.
> Peter
>
> Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com:
>> I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not
>> a
>> flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill
>> F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they
>> said
>> yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and
>> repeats.
>> The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor
>> and
>> cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up
>> to
>> the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does
>> the
>> same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do
>> you
>> think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost
>> about $14.00 to send it back.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The beeps only occur with no memory installed otherwise silence. I have
>>> the 20 + 4 power plugged in. This board does not have a 4 pin plug for
>>> cpu. The manual does not have any info requarding beep code.
>>>
>>
>> The manual says with one stick to put it in A as I initially did. I also
>> tried B just for the hell of it :)
>>
>>

As an act of desperation I tried clearing the cmos. Still no go.

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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[jrmitchellj .]

In the past, some of the motherboards I have bought came with the CMOS
jumper in the reset position.  That holds the system settings in a cleared
and won't allow the system to start.  You may want to check for  that.

Ray

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On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:23 AM,  wrote:
>
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Chris Morley wrote:
>
> >
> > Is the memory in the right slot?
> >
> > Sent from my HTC
> >
> > - Reply message -
> > From: kqt4a...@gmail.com
> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"  >
> > Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
> > Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 9:59 AM
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Dave Cole wrote:
> >
> >> Peter is right.   You need to read the manual.   Motherboards beep in
> >> codes on startup if something is wrong.
> >>
> >> Do you have the 4pin power plug jack connected on the MB?   I think the
> >> 1900's all require those to be connected to the power supply.
> >>
> >> Otherwise beep code!
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On 12/14/2014 11:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote:
> >>> When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain
> >>> meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the
> >>> internet, if you don't have a manual.
> >>> Peter
> >>>
> >>> Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com:
>  I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not
> a
>  flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill
>  F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they
> said
>  yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and
> repeats.
>  The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor
> and
>  cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up
> to
>  the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does
> the
>  same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do
> you
>  think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost
>  about $14.00 to send it back.
> 
>  Richard
> 
> >
> >
> > The beeps only occur with no memory installed otherwise silence. I have
> > the 20 + 4 power plugged in. This board does not have a 4 pin plug for
> > cpu. The manual does not have any info requarding beep code.
> >
>
> The manual says with one stick to put it in A as I initially did. I also
> tried B just for the hell of it :)
>
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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[kqt4at5v]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Chris Morley wrote:

>
> Is the memory in the right slot?
>
> Sent from my HTC
>
> - Reply message -
> From: kqt4a...@gmail.com
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
> Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
> Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 9:59 AM
>
>
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Dave Cole wrote:
>
>> Peter is right.   You need to read the manual.   Motherboards beep in
>> codes on startup if something is wrong.
>>
>> Do you have the 4pin power plug jack connected on the MB?   I think the
>> 1900's all require those to be connected to the power supply.
>>
>> Otherwise beep code!
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On 12/14/2014 11:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote:
>>> When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain
>>> meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the
>>> internet, if you don't have a manual.
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com:
 I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a
 flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill
 F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said
 yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats.
 The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and
 cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to
 the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the
 same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you
 think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost
 about $14.00 to send it back.

 Richard

>
>
> The beeps only occur with no memory installed otherwise silence. I have
> the 20 + 4 power plugged in. This board does not have a 4 pin plug for
> cpu. The manual does not have any info requarding beep code.
>

The manual says with one stick to put it in A as I initially did. I also 
tried B just for the hell of it :)

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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[kqt4at5v]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Peter C. Wallace wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:00:35 -0600 (CST)
>> From: kqt4a...@gmail.com
>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>> 
>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
>>
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:44:08 -0600 (CST)
>>>> From: kqt4a...@gmail.com
>>>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>>>> 
>>>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>> Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
>>>>
>>>> I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a
>>>> flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill
>>>> F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said
>>>> yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats.
>>>> The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and
>>>> cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to
>>>> the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the
>>>> same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you
>>>> think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost
>>>> about $14.00 to send it back.
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess I would start to suspect that you "free" RAM was bad...
>>>
>>
>> He pulled  it from a running system. He wanted to get bigger sticks. Even
>> without memory should not I get a video signal? Monitor reports "no vga
>> signal". I think I am just screwed.
>
> You will not get video without memory...
>

I am returning memory to friend and ordering new.
Thanks

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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[Peter C. Wallace]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:

> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:00:35 -0600 (CST)
> From: kqt4a...@gmail.com
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> 
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
> 
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:44:08 -0600 (CST)
>>> From: kqt4a...@gmail.com
>>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>>> 
>>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
>>>
>>> I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a
>>> flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill
>>> F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said
>>> yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats.
>>> The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and
>>> cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to
>>> the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the
>>> same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you
>>> think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost
>>> about $14.00 to send it back.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>
>>
>> I guess I would start to suspect that you "free" RAM was bad...
>>
>
> He pulled  it from a running system. He wanted to get bigger sticks. Even
> without memory should not I get a video signal? Monitor reports "no vga
> signal". I think I am just screwed.

You will not get video without memory...



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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[Chris Morley]

Is the memory in the right slot?

Sent from my HTC

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From: kqt4a...@gmail.com
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 9:59 AM


On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Dave Cole wrote:

> Peter is right.   You need to read the manual.   Motherboards beep in
> codes on startup if something is wrong.
>
> Do you have the 4pin power plug jack connected on the MB?   I think the
> 1900's all require those to be connected to the power supply.
>
> Otherwise beep code!
>
> Dave
>
> On 12/14/2014 11:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote:
>> When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain
>> meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the
>> internet, if you don't have a manual.
>> Peter
>>
>> Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com:
>>> I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a
>>> flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill
>>> F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said
>>> yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats.
>>> The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and
>>> cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to
>>> the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the
>>> same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you
>>> think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost
>>> about $14.00 to send it back.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>


The beeps only occur with no memory installed otherwise silence. I have
the 20 + 4 power plugged in. This board does not have a 4 pin plug for
cpu. The manual does not have any info requarding beep code.

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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[Przemek Klosowski]

Two bad motherboards are less likely than one bad DIMM. Yes, you
wouldn't get video if the memory was bad---without memory, the system
probably runs a limited amount of code from BIOS ROM, and stops trying
to test and use memory, before initializing the video subsystem.
Since memory costs around 10$/GB, I'd definitely try getting whatever
DIMM ASROCK recommends and test with that.

On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 1:00 PM,   wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:44:08 -0600 (CST)
>>> From: kqt4a...@gmail.com
>>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>>> 
>>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
>>>
>>> I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a
>>> flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill
>>> F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said
>>> yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats.
>>> The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and
>>> cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to
>>> the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the
>>> same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you
>>> think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost
>>> about $14.00 to send it back.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>
>>
>> I guess I would start to suspect that you "free" RAM was bad...
>>
>
> He pulled  it from a running system. He wanted to get bigger sticks. Even
> without memory should not I get a video signal? Monitor reports "no vga
> signal". I think I am just screwed.
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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[kqt4at5v]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Peter C. Wallace wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:44:08 -0600 (CST)
>> From: kqt4a...@gmail.com
>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>> 
>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
>>
>> I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a
>> flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill
>> F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said
>> yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats.
>> The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and
>> cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to
>> the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the
>> same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you
>> think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost
>> about $14.00 to send it back.
>>
>> Richard
>
>
> I guess I would start to suspect that you "free" RAM was bad...
>

He pulled  it from a running system. He wanted to get bigger sticks. Even 
without memory should not I get a video signal? Monitor reports "no vga 
signal". I think I am just screwed.

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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[kqt4at5v]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Dave Cole wrote:

> Peter is right.   You need to read the manual.   Motherboards beep in
> codes on startup if something is wrong.
>
> Do you have the 4pin power plug jack connected on the MB?   I think the
> 1900's all require those to be connected to the power supply.
>
> Otherwise beep code!
>
> Dave
>
> On 12/14/2014 11:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote:
>> When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain
>> meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the
>> internet, if you don't have a manual.
>> Peter
>>
>> Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com:
>>> I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a
>>> flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill
>>> F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said
>>> yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats.
>>> The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and
>>> cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to
>>> the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the
>>> same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you
>>> think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost
>>> about $14.00 to send it back.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>


The beeps only occur with no memory installed otherwise silence. I have 
the 20 + 4 power plugged in. This board does not have a 4 pin plug for 
cpu. The manual does not have any info requarding beep code.

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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[Peter C. Wallace]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:

> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:44:08 -0600 (CST)
> From: kqt4a...@gmail.com
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> 
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice
> 
> I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a
> flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill
> F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said
> yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats.
> The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and
> cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to
> the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the
> same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you
> think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost
> about $14.00 to send it back.
>
> Richard


I guess I would start to suspect that you "free" RAM was bad...


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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[Dave Cole]

Peter is right.   You need to read the manual.   Motherboards beep in 
codes on startup if something is wrong.

Do you have the 4pin power plug jack connected on the MB?   I think the 
1900's all require those to be connnected to the power supply.

Otherwise beep code!

Dave

On 12/14/2014 11:14 AM, Peter Blodow wrote:
> When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain
> meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the
> internet, if you don't have a manual.
> Peter
>
> Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com:
>> I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a
>> flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill
>> F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said
>> yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats.
>> The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and
>> cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to
>> the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the
>> same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you
>> think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost
>> about $14.00 to send it back.
>>
>> Richard
>>
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Re: [Emc-users] new motherboard doa, twice

[Peter Blodow]

When I was working with motherboards long ago, the beeps had e certain 
meaning that was described in the f... manual. Try to look it up in the 
internet, if you don't have a manual.
Peter

Am 14.12.2014 16:44, schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com:
> I ordered a ASRock G1900M Pro3. When I power it up I get nothing. Not a
> flicker. A friend had a 4GB memory stick that he let me have, G.Skill
> F3-1600C11S-4GNS. I asked ASRock if this memory would work and they said
> yes. If I remove the memory the board beeps 3 times pauses and repeats.
> The power supply was running another board ok. I hooked the monitor and
> cable to another computer and it is ok. I have the monitor hooked up to
> the vga port. I returned the board and they sent another and it does the
> same thing. I preferred this board because of the pci slots. What do you
> think? Should I return it for a refund or swap it for another. It cost
> about $14.00 to send it back.
>
> Richard
>
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