Cert required for 2010
Quick question about Certificates; do i need a SAN cert if i want to combine OWA, OWA for 2003 with the automatic redirect and Outlook anywhere or will the regular cert I have work? Thanks. Phil --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Cert required for 2010
It makes life a lot easier to use a SAN cert. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: phil levine [mailto:plevin...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 3:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Cert required for 2010 Quick question about Certificates; do i need a SAN cert if i want to combine OWA, OWA for 2003 with the automatic redirect and Outlook anywhere or will the regular cert I have work? Thanks. Phil --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
Can you install the tools on your desktop 64-bit machine and run an elevated Powershell session with Mailbox Import/Export role? From: bounce-9214480-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [bounce-9214480-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] on behalf of Bill Songstad [bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 December 2010 22:57 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
Thats how I did it on my last Exchange 2007 migration. Gavin. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.ukwrote: Can you install the tools on your desktop 64-bit machine and run an elevated Powershell session with Mailbox Import/Export role? -- *From:* bounce-9214480-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [ bounce-9214480-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] on behalf of Bill Songstad [bsongs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 22 December 2010 22:57 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Gavin Wilby, Twitter: http://twitter.com/gavin_wilby GSXR Blog: http://www.stoof.co.uk --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
The assumption of Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine goes away with Exchange 2010 sp1. It's no longer required. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
dunno. will give it a go. just found this article hidden in technet. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee633455.aspx It suggests that the Outlook 2010 requirement was only for Pre SP1. So that could be my savior. I'll try uninstalling the Outlook and running the import. Hpefully my original assumption was wrong. -Bill On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.ukwrote: Can you install the tools on your desktop 64-bit machine and run an elevated Powershell session with Mailbox Import/Export role? -- *From:* bounce-9214480-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [ bounce-9214480-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] on behalf of Bill Songstad [bsongs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 22 December 2010 22:57 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
Once again I must bow in humility to the master. Thanks Michael I'm going to have to start calling you the refrigerator for all the times you've saved my bacon. -Bill On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: The “assumption” of “Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine” goes away with Exchange 2010 sp1. It’s no longer required. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
LOL, that is great. Michael The Refrigerator Smith I've always thought Michael was one cool character. Actually, a frig removes heat and doesn't make things cold. So MBS actually takes the heat off of poor common folk and makes us just look cool to our bosses and peers. Thanks Frig. Webster From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Once again I must bow in humility to the master. Thanks Michael I'm going to have to start calling you the refrigerator for all the times you've saved my bacon. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
There's BACON? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Once again I must bow in humility to the master. Thanks Michael I'm going to have to start calling you the refrigerator for all the times you've saved my bacon. -Bill On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: The assumption of Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine goes away with Exchange 2010 sp1. It's no longer required. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.commailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
IF there wasn't, I'd be disappointed. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net wrote: There’s BACON? *From:* Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:31 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Once again I must bow in humility to the master. Thanks Michael I'm going to have to start calling you the refrigerator for all the times you've saved my bacon. -Bill On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: The “assumption” of “Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine” goes away with Exchange 2010 sp1. It’s no longer required. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
Wasn't RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
They are supposed to since MS doesn't really like CDO anymore. And RIM has numerous support calls going right now with BES and 2010 installs... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 00:26:18 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn't RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) -- Sent using BlackBerry From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 07:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn’t RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
Yes. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn't RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Um, Ouch...
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9202078/Microsoft_BPOS_cloud_service_hit_with_data_breach?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2010-12-22 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
Given that the EWS version is STILL not available, I would guess you have some time before this becomes an issue... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote: Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) -- Sent using BlackBerry *From*: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] *Sent*: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 07:26 PM *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn’t RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? *From:* Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
The challenge (of course - at least from my perspective) is that EWS doesn't provide as many capabilities as the MAPI service. SO... they have some challenges. I've migrated several applications from MAPI to EWS (c++ to c#) and there are just some things you can't do in EWS - you have to use LDAP if you aren't using MAPI. This makes some things much more difficult. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Don Ely [don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Given that the EWS version is STILL not available, I would guess you have some time before this becomes an issue... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edumailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote: Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) -- Sent using BlackBerry From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.netmailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 07:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn’t RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.commailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Um, Ouch...
How important is an address book? I ask that question - seriously - because in my opinion it's pretty small. I've had this discussion before, several times, and depending on the audience I've seen it go both ways. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Kurt Buff [kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Um, Ouch... http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9202078/Microsoft_BPOS_cloud_service_hit_with_data_breach?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2010-12-22 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
I won't disagree... I'm having a hard time determining who to dislike more. MS for pretty much rendering MAPI useless or the vendors for not keeping up with MS... It does piss me off that MS crippled MAPI support for other software and they have no intention of going away from that plan. Had the argument with my TAM, PSS, and others... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: The challenge (of course - at least from my perspective) is that EWS doesn't provide as many capabilities as the MAPI service. SO... they have some challenges. I've migrated several applications from MAPI to EWS (c++ to c#) and there are just some things you can't do in EWS - you have to use LDAP if you aren't using MAPI. This makes some things much more difficult. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ -- *From:* Don Ely [don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:08 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Given that the EWS version is STILL not available, I would guess you have some time before this becomes an issue... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote: Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) -- Sent using BlackBerry *From*: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] *Sent*: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 07:26 PM *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn’t RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? *From:* Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Um, Ouch...
It could be small, or it could be big. IRS 7216 was updated to match current market trends in efiling, outsourcing, etc for tax preparers. It covers the disclosure of tax return information. What is tax return information? Information on the return, such as name and address. Is it stupid to be concerned about that? Sure, but no one wants to be the firm that ends up testing this in court. Yes, there's an argument that address information could be acquired through other methods, but that isn't the point... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: How important is an address book? I ask that question - seriously - because in my opinion it's pretty small. I've had this discussion before, several times, and depending on the audience I've seen it go both ways. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Kurt Buff [kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Um, Ouch... http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9202078/Microsoft_BPOS_cloud_service_hit_with_data_breach?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2010-12-22 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Um, Ouch...
I think the major concern is that there was an unauthorized access of one client's data by another client. That is was just an address book doesn't really do much to repair that loss of confidence. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, Ouch... How important is an address book? I ask that question - seriously - because in my opinion it's pretty small. I've had this discussion before, several times, and depending on the audience I've seen it go both ways. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Kurt Buff [kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Um, Ouch... http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9202078/Microsoft_BPOS_cloud_service_hit_with_data_breach?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2010-12-22 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Um, Ouch...
And then having to report to clients that you've had a data breach... What's the attendant damage going to be from that? On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net wrote: I think the major concern is that there was an unauthorized access of one client's data by another client. That is was just an address book doesn't really do much to repair that loss of confidence. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, Ouch... How important is an address book? I ask that question - seriously - because in my opinion it's pretty small. I've had this discussion before, several times, and depending on the audience I've seen it go both ways. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Kurt Buff [kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Um, Ouch... http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9202078/Microsoft_BPOS_cloud_service_hit_with_data_breach?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2010-12-22 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
I wonder if MS' answer is gee, you don't need BES or RIM for that matter - just expose your mail system to the internet - what? - can't get to your other intranet servers? - just expose them too - it should all be open or something... From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 I won't disagree... I'm having a hard time determining who to dislike more. MS for pretty much rendering MAPI useless or the vendors for not keeping up with MS... It does piss me off that MS crippled MAPI support for other software and they have no intention of going away from that plan. Had the argument with my TAM, PSS, and others... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: The challenge (of course - at least from my perspective) is that EWS doesn't provide as many capabilities as the MAPI service. SO... they have some challenges. I've migrated several applications from MAPI to EWS (c++ to c#) and there are just some things you can't do in EWS - you have to use LDAP if you aren't using MAPI. This makes some things much more difficult. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Don Ely [don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Given that the EWS version is STILL not available, I would guess you have some time before this becomes an issue... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edumailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote: Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) -- Sent using BlackBerry From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.netmailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 07:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn't RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.commailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: Um, Ouch...
I think there can be LOTs more than just email address, name address in there. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Um, Ouch... It could be small, or it could be big. IRS 7216 was updated to match current market trends in efiling, outsourcing, etc for tax preparers. It covers the disclosure of tax return information. What is tax return information? Information on the return, such as name and address. Is it stupid to be concerned about that? Sure, but no one wants to be the firm that ends up testing this in court. Yes, there's an argument that address information could be acquired through other methods, but that isn't the point... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: How important is an address book? I ask that question - seriously - because in my opinion it's pretty small. I've had this discussion before, several times, and depending on the audience I've seen it go both ways. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Kurt Buff [kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Um, Ouch... http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9202078/Microsoft_BPOS_cloud_service_hit_with_data_breach?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2010-12-22 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Um, Ouch...
In the context of an address book, those are the two common items between an address book and a tax return... And yes, more items are stored in the address book than those... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Don Andrews don.andr...@safeway.comwrote: I think there can be LOTs more than just email address, name address in there. -- *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:27 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Um, Ouch... It could be small, or it could be big. IRS 7216 was updated to match current market trends in efiling, outsourcing, etc for tax preparers. It covers the disclosure of tax return information. What is tax return information? Information on the return, such as name and address. Is it stupid to be concerned about that? Sure, but no one wants to be the firm that ends up testing this in court. Yes, there's an argument that address information could be acquired through other methods, but that isn't the point... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: How important is an address book? I ask that question - seriously - because in my opinion it's pretty small. I've had this discussion before, several times, and depending on the audience I've seen it go both ways. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Kurt Buff [kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Um, Ouch... http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9202078/Microsoft_BPOS_cloud_service_hit_with_data_breach?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2010-12-22 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
I'm still not happy about the weird things the EMS does because it has to get all SOAPy and pretend there's a cloud between my workstation and the Exchange server in the next room. From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 I won't disagree... I'm having a hard time determining who to dislike more. MS for pretty much rendering MAPI useless or the vendors for not keeping up with MS... It does piss me off that MS crippled MAPI support for other software and they have no intention of going away from that plan. Had the argument with my TAM, PSS, and others... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: The challenge (of course - at least from my perspective) is that EWS doesn't provide as many capabilities as the MAPI service. SO... they have some challenges. I've migrated several applications from MAPI to EWS (c++ to c#) and there are just some things you can't do in EWS - you have to use LDAP if you aren't using MAPI. This makes some things much more difficult. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Don Ely [don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Given that the EWS version is STILL not available, I would guess you have some time before this becomes an issue... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edumailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote: Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) -- Sent using BlackBerry From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.netmailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 07:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn't RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.commailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage
RE: Um, Ouch...
Today an address book. Tomorrow... ? This is just a teaser of things to come. Carl -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, Ouch... How important is an address book? I ask that question - seriously - because in my opinion it's pretty small. I've had this discussion before, several times, and depending on the audience I've seen it go both ways. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Kurt Buff [kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Um, Ouch... http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9202078/Microsoft_BPOS_cloud_service_ hit_with_data_breach?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2010-12-22 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Um, Ouch...
The thought of having an address book stolen would be very upsetting to any of my clients. In fact this is exactly the sort of thing that keeps me working maintaining in-house servers. Roger Scudder -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, Ouch... How important is an address book? I ask that question - seriously - because in my opinion it's pretty small. I've had this discussion before, several times, and depending on the audience I've seen it go both ways. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Kurt Buff [kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Um, Ouch... http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9202078/Microsoft_BPOS_cloud_service_ hit_with_data_breach?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2010-12-22 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Um, Ouch...
Regardless of your answer to that question, what makes you think it's going to be just an address book next time? You aren't saying that there won't be a next time, are you? Of course, if you're in a highly competitive industry, a list of external contacts can say a *lot*, and what it reveals about your internal hierarchy can be pretty dang interesting too, if you're looking to hire away staff from a competitor, or understand decision-making, etc. So, the answer is, as usual, It Depends. Kurt On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 17:16, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: How important is an address book? I ask that question - seriously - because in my opinion it's pretty small. I've had this discussion before, several times, and depending on the audience I've seen it go both ways. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Kurt Buff [kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Um, Ouch... http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9202078/Microsoft_BPOS_cloud_service_hit_with_data_breach?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2010-12-22 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Um, Ouch...
So, the answer is, as usual, It Depends. I am surprised Citrix didn't Trademark the phrase It Depends since that is the answer to almost any question related to Citrix! Webster -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Um, Ouch... Regardless of your answer to that question, what makes you think it's going to be just an address book next time? You aren't saying that there won't be a next time, are you? Of course, if you're in a highly competitive industry, a list of external contacts can say a *lot*, and what it reveals about your internal hierarchy can be pretty dang interesting too, if you're looking to hire away staff from a competitor, or understand decision-making, etc. So, the answer is, as usual, It Depends. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
