Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
On Monday 31 Mar 2003 6:34 am, Joeb wrote: On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:12:49 + You should be able to install from your dvd assuming it is bootable. The problem he is experiencing is with an install from a hard drive (ie. not using ISOs or CDs). Joeb Thank you, Joeb Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Joeb wrote: You should be able to install from your dvd assuming it is bootable. The problem he is experiencing is with an install from a hard drive (ie. not using ISOs or CDs). No. Same problem occurs with CDs made by 9.1 MakeCD from my 9.1 tree. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Russian Iraq military intelligence: http://www.aeronautics.ru/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Ron Stodden wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 6:36 am, Ron Stodden wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: This makes me nervous - your ide config sounds very similar to mine The problem may not exist with an install from CDs. I have the 9.1 tree but not the ISOs. I plan now to run 9.1 mkcd from the tree to produce 9.1 ISO files, burn them to CD-RW and try to install from CD and announce the result here. Note that my downloaded 9.1 tree (see sig below) is non-standard by not including any non-English locales or RPMs. This does not give the 9.1 hd.img installer any problem. Thanks for that Ron CDs made OK, but CD installer baulks at the disk/scsi dialog and loop between dialogs with no exit. Message -'no device on which to create filesystems'. Seems to me it does not recognise any IDE disk channels. 9.0 recognises them all. Show stopper for me. I can now report exactly the same problem with an hd.img install attempt from a virgin 9.1 tree (ie nothing excluded). Alt F1 and Alt F3 at the No DISK drives message confirm that only IDE0 and IDE1 were detected.This may be a devfs problem? Time for Mandrake to acknowledge and produce a fix for this 9.1 show stopper. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Russian Iraq military intelligence: http://www.aeronautics.ru/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 6:36 am, Ron Stodden wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 29 Mar 2003 5:03 am, Ron Stodden wrote: This makes me nervous - your ide config sounds very similar to mine The problem may not exist with an install from CDs. I have the 9.1 tree but not the ISOs. I plan now to run 9.1 mkcd from the tree to produce 9.1 ISO files, burn them to CD-RW and try to install from CD and announce the result here. Note that my downloaded 9.1 tree (see sig below) is non-standard by not including any non-English locales or RPMs. This does not give the 9.1 hd.img installer any problem. Thanks for that Ron -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Ron Stodden wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 29 Mar 2003 5:03 am, Ron Stodden wrote: Tom, Charles, Thankyou for your responses. My point is that mandrake 9.0 suppports all my IDE combinations, Mandrake 9.1 does not. I do not use any raid. Therefore, ipso facto, plainly, without doubt, as surely as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, we have Mandrake retrogression: The fix must come from Mandrake (a corrected hd.img?). And quickly! This makes me nervous - your ide config sounds very similar to mine The problem may not exist with an install from CDs. I have the 9.1 tree but not the ISOs. I plan now to run 9.1 mkcd from the tree to produce 9.1 ISO files, burn them to CD-RW and try to install from CD and announce the result here. Note that my downloaded 9.1 tree (see sig below) is non-standard by not including any non-English locales or RPMs. This does not give the 9.1 hd.img installer any problem. CDs made OK, but installer loops around the disk/scsi questions with no escape - inadequate GUI design. Surprisingly it seems that 9.1 has never been tested on a simple IDE2 3 on m/b config like mine. --- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Russian Iraq military intelligence: http://www.aeronautics.ru/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 6:36 am, Ron Stodden wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: This makes me nervous - your ide config sounds very similar to mine The problem may not exist with an install from CDs. I have the 9.1 tree but not the ISOs. I plan now to run 9.1 mkcd from the tree to produce 9.1 ISO files, burn them to CD-RW and try to install from CD and announce the result here. Note that my downloaded 9.1 tree (see sig below) is non-standard by not including any non-English locales or RPMs. This does not give the 9.1 hd.img installer any problem. Thanks for that Ron CDs made OK, but CD installer baulks at the disk/scsi dialog and loop between dialogs with no exit. Message -'no device on which to create filesystems'. Seems to me it does not recognise any IDE disk channels. 9.0 recognises them all. Show stopper for me. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Russian Iraq military intelligence: http://www.aeronautics.ru/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:12:49 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 29 Mar 2003 12:16 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 10:27:22 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This makes me nervous - your ide config sounds very similar to mine Ann, unless you install from your hd, as is Ron, you should have no problem. Comforting I have done the 9.1 install from cd on 2 systems, both with dual ide controllers. The only problem I had is that on 1 2nd stage ram disk errored if I used the cdrom drive but ran without problem from the dvd. Is this because the dvd is master? I installed from my dvd drive last time, and would do so again unless I know there's a problem. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Anne, You should be able to install from your dvd assuming it is bootable. The problem he is experiencing is with an install from a hard drive (ie. not using ISOs or CDs). Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
On Saturday 29 Mar 2003 5:03 am, Ron Stodden wrote: Tom, Charles, Thankyou for your responses. My point is that mandrake 9.0 suppports all my IDE combinations, Mandrake 9.1 does not. I do not use any raid. Therefore, ipso facto, plainly, without doubt, as surely as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, we have Mandrake retrogression: The fix must come from Mandrake (a corrected hd.img?). And quickly! This makes me nervous - your ide config sounds very similar to mine Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 10:27:22 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This makes me nervous - your ide config sounds very similar to mine Ann, unless you install from your hd, as is Ron, you should have no problem. I have done the 9.1 install from cd on 2 systems, both with dual ide controllers. The only problem I had is that on 1 2nd stage ram disk errored if I used the cdrom drive but ran without problem from the dvd. Charles -- The fact that it works is immaterial. -- L. Ogborn - Mandrake Linux 9.1 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.13mdk - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Ron, I haven't tried this, so I don't know if it will work or not. What happens if you make a boot floppy to do your install, but use the floppy image from the 9.0 release that supports your on-board controller? Once booted, install 9.1 from your hard drive (that's what you're trying to do, right?). Another option might be, if you have the 9.0 CDs, boot to rescue mode and mount your drives there. Then, install 9.1 from your hard drive. Again, I don't know if the above will work, as I haven't tried it and ultimately, Mandrake needs to have a patch or a fix put out. But, it may let you get 9.1 installed and running until they do. Good luck, Joeb On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:32:54 +1100 Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joeb wrote: What's on your IDE0 and IDE1? If nothing, then disable them in CMOS and see if that works. CD-RW burner on primary IDE0. CD reader on primary IDE1. All works OK with Mandrake 9.0. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
On Saturday 29 Mar 2003 12:16 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 10:27:22 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This makes me nervous - your ide config sounds very similar to mine Ann, unless you install from your hd, as is Ron, you should have no problem. Comforting I have done the 9.1 install from cd on 2 systems, both with dual ide controllers. The only problem I had is that on 1 2nd stage ram disk errored if I used the cdrom drive but ran without problem from the dvd. Is this because the dvd is master? I installed from my dvd drive last time, and would do so again unless I know there's a problem. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 29 Mar 2003 5:03 am, Ron Stodden wrote: Tom, Charles, Thankyou for your responses. My point is that mandrake 9.0 suppports all my IDE combinations, Mandrake 9.1 does not. I do not use any raid. Therefore, ipso facto, plainly, without doubt, as surely as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, we have Mandrake retrogression: The fix must come from Mandrake (a corrected hd.img?). And quickly! This makes me nervous - your ide config sounds very similar to mine The problem may not exist with an install from CDs. I have the 9.1 tree but not the ISOs. I plan now to run 9.1 mkcd from the tree to produce 9.1 ISO files, burn them to CD-RW and try to install from CD and announce the result here. Note that my downloaded 9.1 tree (see sig below) is non-standard by not including any non-English locales or RPMs. This does not give the 9.1 hd.img installer any problem. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Joeb wrote: Ron, I haven't tried this, so I don't know if it will work or not. What happens if you make a boot floppy to do your install, but use the floppy image from the 9.0 release that supports your on-board controller? Once booted, install 9.1 from your hard drive (that's what you're trying to do, right?). Another option might be, if you have the 9.0 CDs, boot to rescue mode and mount your drives there. Then, install 9.1 from your hard drive. Again, I don't know if the above will work, as I haven't tried it and ultimately, Mandrake needs to have a patch or a fix put out. But, it may let you get 9.1 installed and running until they do. I plan to try an install from CD first, OK? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
On Thursday March 27 2003 11:29 pm, Ron Stodden wrote: Configuration differences: 1st machine (fails) has a Promise chip on the Gigabyte motherboard which supports IDE0 through IDE3. motherboard with Windoze-controller, software driven 2nd machine (succeeds) has a Soltek motherboard supporting IDE0 IDE1, with an add-on Promise PCI board providing IDE2 and IDE3. motherboard with a real controller Seems simple to me, avoid buying Win-motherboards with built in fake raid. Add on a real controller on a motherboard suitable for Linux if you need so many ide's. Keep in mind tho, no matter how many ide ports you add, or are built in, they all have to work at taking their turn, thru your one 33mhz pci bus. YMMV -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:36:11 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems simple to me, avoid buying Win-motherboards with built in fake raid. Add on a real controller on a motherboard suitable for Linux if you need so many ide's. Though completely true, Tom, the statement is not completely accurate. Unless Roms Is a Raid controller it is an onboard ide controller which Is supported by linux (Not a widblows controller) The installation problem here is the fact that the driver mod for the onboard controller is not included in the hd image but the driver mod for the pci add-on controller Is included. The same occurred with the 7.1 cds installation. ATA100 add-on cards were supported but ATA100 onboard was not. Ron, you can try passing the I/O addresses at installation start. Sometimes this will work sometime not. OTTOMH I do not recall the exact formula to use but if you want to try it I can probably dig it up for you. Charles -- Winter is the season in which people try to keep the house as warm as it was in the summer, when they complained about the heat. - Mandrake Linux 9.1 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.13mdk - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
On Friday March 28 2003 09:34 am, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:36:11 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems simple to me, avoid buying Win-motherboards with built in fake raid. Add on a real controller on a motherboard suitable for Linux if you need so many ide's. Though completely true, Tom, the statement is not completely accurate. Unless Roms Is a Raid controller it is an onboard ide controller which Is supported by linux (Not a widblows controller) The installation problem here is the fact that the driver mod for the onboard controller is not included in the hd image but the driver mod for the pci add-on controller Is included. The same occurred with the 7.1 cds installation. ATA100 add-on cards were supported but ATA100 onboard was not. Ron, you can try passing the I/O addresses at installation start. Sometimes this will work sometime not. OTTOMH I do not recall the exact formula to use but if you want to try it I can probably dig it up for you. Charles I figured somebody would catch me in a general statement ;) I still stand by it. IMO, these integrated addon controller boards are best avoided. Most all vendors make two models of their boards, one with, one without addon controllers. If you havt'a overload the pci bus with extra ide ports, get a real controller card. Y'alls MMV -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Tom, Charles, Thankyou for your responses. My point is that mandrake 9.0 suppports all my IDE combinations, Mandrake 9.1 does not. I do not use any raid. Therefore, ipso facto, plainly, without doubt, as surely as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, we have Mandrake retrogression: The fix must come from Mandrake (a corrected hd.img?). And quickly! Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday March 28 2003 09:34 am, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:36:11 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems simple to me, avoid buying Win-motherboards with built in fake raid. Add on a real controller on a motherboard suitable for Linux if you need so many ide's. Though completely true, Tom, the statement is not completely accurate. Unless Roms Is a Raid controller it is an onboard ide controller which Is supported by linux (Not a widblows controller) The installation problem here is the fact that the driver mod for the onboard controller is not included in the hd image but the driver mod for the pci add-on controller Is included. The same occurred with the 7.1 cds installation. ATA100 add-on cards were supported but ATA100 onboard was not. Ron, you can try passing the I/O addresses at installation start. Sometimes this will work sometime not. OTTOMH I do not recall the exact formula to use but if you want to try it I can probably dig it up for you. Charles I figured somebody would catch me in a general statement ;) I still stand by it. IMO, these integrated addon controller boards are best avoided. Most all vendors make two models of their boards, one with, one without addon controllers. If you havt'a overload the pci bus with extra ide ports, get a real controller card. Y'alls MMV --- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Installing 9.1 from an hd.img floppy immediately says No DISK drive! My two hard disks are primaries on hde and hdg. They have to be because they are ATA100 or above and IDE0 and IDE1 only support ATA66 and below. Many motherboards operate this way. 9.0 installed and runs perfectly on this configuration. The strong implication is that nobody in Mandrake development or QA uses ATA100 or up disk drives - true? Once more, another release showstopper reported by Ron. When can we expect a fix, and how will it be delivered? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
What's on your IDE0 and IDE1? If nothing, then disable them in CMOS and see if that works. Joeb On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:50:20 +1100 Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Installing 9.1 from an hd.img floppy immediately says No DISK drive! My two hard disks are primaries on hde and hdg. They have to be because they are ATA100 or above and IDE0 and IDE1 only support ATA66 and below. Many motherboards operate this way. 9.0 installed and runs perfectly on this configuration. The strong implication is that nobody in Mandrake development or QA uses ATA100 or up disk drives - true? Once more, another release showstopper reported by Ron. When can we expect a fix, and how will it be delivered? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Ron Stodden wrote: Installing 9.1 from an hd.img floppy immediately says No DISK drive! My two hard disks are primaries on hde and hdg. They have to be because they are ATA100 or above and IDE0 and IDE1 only support ATA66 and below. Many motherboards operate this way. 9.0 installed and runs perfectly on this configuration. The strong implication is that nobody in Mandrake development or QA uses ATA100 or up disk drives - true? Once more, another release showstopper reported by Ron. When can we expect a fix, and how will it be delivered? Further information: 9.1 Install worked OK on another machine with the same disk configuration! Configuration differences: 1st machine (fails) has a Promise chip on the Gigabyte motherboard which supports IDE0 through IDE3. 2nd machine (succeeds) has a Soltek motherboard supporting IDE0 IDE1, with an add-on Promise PCI board providing IDE2 and IDE3. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Joeb wrote: What's on your IDE0 and IDE1? If nothing, then disable them in CMOS and see if that works. CD-RW burner on primary IDE0. CD reader on primary IDE1. All works OK with Mandrake 9.0. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
