[FairfieldLife] Re: Please snip your posts when possible

[merudanda]

My dearest raunchydog-in- enlightenment-sweat-lodge I wrote that because
I only hope nobody is blaming the TM secret police using automate 
sneaking access   program -outsourced via India back to Bairitu
noozeguru's ,USA,automated tools expertise- trying to to catch agent
provocateur Buck off guard to create a FFL D.-Lynch onlyin an
altruistic attempt  to cleanse historic fairy-field- Fairfield karma of
course.. [:D]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
wrote:
>
> I've been busy,
snip

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> 
> If this is what you meant as "my point" �
> 
> Lawson sez:
> 
>   And again: noticing something, however subtle, even the first
> glimmering of awareness of awareness, is no longer pure consciousness.
> 
>   Empty Bill sez:
> 
> Theny ou do not understand what the witness actually is.
> 
> However,if you are referring to a point that is different, then please
> restate you point.
> 
> Lawson also sez:
> 
>   There are two different comments I have heard on this topic that apply,
> at least
> for me:
> 
> 1. there is no end to how subtle the mantra can become.
> 
> 
> 
> 2. the thought OF the mantra is still the mantra.
> 
> Empty Bill sez:
> 
>   1.There is indeed an end to the subtlety of the mantra.
> 
>   According to Patanjali, the scale of subtlety terminatesin the
> "a-linga" � the quality of unmarked, non-differentiation (YS
> 1.45). Thus,whether an object is a physical quanta or a subjective
> thought, pradhana/prakritiis the final field of subtlety.
> 
>   Empty Bill further sez about your claim that -
> 
>   2. The thought OF the mantra is NOT the mantra.
> 
> If your statement were true then simply the thought
> "mantra"would equally qualify as the mantra. A "thought
> of" or "thought about" the mantra is simply a thought �
> that is all. The actual meditation bija-mantra is that human speech
> sound pronounced by the initiating teacher. Any thought that is
> either"of" or "about" the bija-mantra, is a relational
> remembrance � a signal to return to the mantra but is not the mantra
> itself.
> 


Oh dear, for the last 39 years I've been doing TM improperly. The horror.


L.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Please snip your posts when possible

[merudanda]

Agree snip and  writing the answer in a different font(color) helps
IMHO  as well as ease old eyes-getting-tired -and-
brain-getting-blank-syndrom. [:D] But.
Normal human usage of the Yahoo services shouldn't normally generate
enough traffic to trigger this message unless you're a very heavy
user.
Use following suggestions:
http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?locale=en_US&page=content&y=PROD_GRPS&id=\
SLN2253&impressions=true

http://www.murraymoffatt.com/software-problem-0011.html

This error essentially means "Oops! Something went wrong but we
don't know what, so we'll just say that Error  occurred."and
appears to be a "catch-all" error code that Yahoo serves up when
it doesn't have a more specific error code.
There could be two reasons :

1. To prevent DoS (Denial of Service) attacks.
2. To stop automated tasks from hammering their servers with hundreds of
requests a second.

There are many programs around that offer to automate access to various
Yahoo services, i.e. check your Yahoo mailbox every 5 minutes, archive
Yahoo Groups messages, download files from the Yahoo Groups Photos and
Files sections, etc. If you use one of these automated tools then there
is a very real possibility that you will run into this message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
wrote:
>
> I've been busy, not much time to post so I take a quick peek at
messages on my browser. Lately I've seen this pop up a few times:
>snip

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > Om, waht oh.  I may lose my Dome badge, again.  I got called in by the 
> > > chief inspector the other day over my religious activities with non-TM 
> > > pundits.  If it goes badly they'll take my Dome badge away, again.  It is 
> > > still in the balance but it is an interesting thing; they have these 
> > > anti-religious practices paragraphs in the Dome meditation admission 
> > > guidelines that are a snare.  The paragraphs are part of a business plan 
> > > to coerce people to use TM movement joytish astrology and yagya services 
> > > more exclusively by using the dome admission as a punishment.  I had an 
> > > hour long interview in the Peace Palace the other day.  Some committee 
> > > that I'll not see will adjudicate my case.  "We have something in our 
> > > files, tell us about it."
> > 
> > 
> > How do the TM inspectors [had a good laugh typing that] find out
> > you are using non-approved "services?" Is there a supergrass in
> > FF? And what the hell business do you think it is of theirs?
> > 
> > Hope you tell them to stuff their stupid dome badge. Really, what
> > is the point of all this if this is the sort of "positivity" that
> > TM creates?
> >
> 
> Sal, how?  The 'course office' works it like East German Secret Police Stasi 
> doing case work.  They work it all the time.  Search local papers for leads, 
> the internet, make interviews, hear conversations in the Domes or meal hall 
> on campus or around, some people also feel it their duty to tell them things, 
> and then they squeeze people.  They make files and network the files.  These 
> are TM career people who are very good at what they do.  These are 
> apparatchiks who are unquestioningly loyal subordinates.   For them it is 
> about enforcing the guidelines.  If they had better guidelines they would 
> enforce them too.  It is a lot like being confronted with that German officer 
> investigator actor in Inglorious Bastards. 
> http://voices.yahoo.com/inglorious-bastards-using-tarantinos-movie-teaching-5616344.html
>
> That's the course office and the system that set it up.  Evidently it is the 
> best we have to work with.
>

Wow Buck, you put up with a lot in order to be able to meditate in the Dome and 
operate within the confines of the TM secret police. I had no idea. If any of 
this had been going on back in 1976-1980 I would have been out of there, real 
fast. I guess what you gain is worth this kind of terrible, freedom-squelching 
monitoring? Is this for real? I haven't been paying attention or following any 
of this at FFL so I am a bit shocked now that I actually read one of these 
posts. I guess you need the collective group energy that the dome provides when 
you do your siddhis? You couldn't just sort of hop around in your own home and 
essentially be flipping these Nazi's a bird at the same time as you burn your 
dome badge? Jeezuz, I would love to be in Fairfield just to give these assholes 
a run for their money. I could think of all sorts of fun scenarios because, 
frankly, I wouldn't give a damn and just the opportunity to raise a couple of 
hackles on these guy's backs would be worth the price of admission. Good luck 
with that. But remember, certain things are only worth so much boot licking.

[FairfieldLife] What We Can Learn From Iceland (and probably won't)

[raunchydog]

"For all the fear mongering we hear out of our politicians on the right about 
how heaven forbid we're going to turn into Greece, the one country you never 
hear them talk about any more is Iceland. The reason they don't is, as Cenk 
Uygur explained on his show this Tuesday, they took a different path than the 
United States after their financial crisis and nationalized the banks, threw 
some the people responsible for the crash in jail and bailed out the homeowners 
instead of worrying about only bailing out the banks. And now they're coming 
back and their economy is growing again..."
http://youtu.be/64eI831eKY8

[FairfieldLife] Please snip your posts when possible

[raunchydog]

I've been busy, not much time to post so I take a quick peek at messages on my 
browser. Lately I've seen this pop up a few times: 

"The message you requested is temporarily unavailable because this group has 
exceeded its download limit."

http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_GRPS&locale=en_US&id=SLN4059&impressions=true

[FairfieldLife] "In memoriam" Thomas LeMay

[Buck]

Thomas LeMay, a resident of Fairfield for 16 years and formerly of Long Island, 
N.Y., died Monday, July 16, 2012, at Arbor Court nursing home in Mount 
Pleasant, where he'd resided since 2009 after suffering a debilitating stroke.

A memorial service will be held in the near future in Fairfield. His family 
will hold a service in New York in the fall when the family can gather together.

Memorials may be made to Thomas LeMay Memorial and sent to Paul Slowick at 55 
Forest Drive, Fairfield 52556.

Behner Funeral Home & Crematory, Fairfield, is handling local arrangements.

Mr. LeMay was a gifted guitar player and song writer, often performing at open 
mic nights at Café Paradiso and other concerts in Fairfield.

As a long time meditator, he had participated for several years in the 
Invincible America course in the Patanjali Golden Dome at Maharishi University 
of Management.

Survivors include two brothers, David of Delaware, Ohio, and Richard of 
Huntington Station, N.Y.; three sisters, Diana Hamel of Hawaii, Bonnie 
Rothchild of Lake Grove, N.Y. and Robin Knight.

He was preceded in death by his parents and one brother, Ernest.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> > Om, waht oh.  I may lose my Dome badge, again.  I got called in by the 
> > chief inspector the other day over my religious activities with non-TM 
> > pundits.  If it goes badly they'll take my Dome badge away, again.  It is 
> > still in the balance but it is an interesting thing; they have these 
> > anti-religious practices paragraphs in the Dome meditation admission 
> > guidelines that are a snare.  The paragraphs are part of a business plan to 
> > coerce people to use TM movement joytish astrology and yagya services more 
> > exclusively by using the dome admission as a punishment.  I had an hour 
> > long interview in the Peace Palace the other day.  Some committee that I'll 
> > not see will adjudicate my case.  "We have something in our files, tell us 
> > about it."
> 
> 
> How do the TM inspectors [had a good laugh typing that] find out
> you are using non-approved "services?" Is there a supergrass in
> FF? And what the hell business do you think it is of theirs?
> 
> Hope you tell them to stuff their stupid dome badge. Really, what
> is the point of all this if this is the sort of "positivity" that
> TM creates?
>

Sal, how?  The 'course office' works it like East German Secret Police Stasi 
doing case work.  They work it all the time.  Search local papers for leads, 
the internet, make interviews, hear conversations in the Domes or meal hall on 
campus or around, some people also feel it their duty to tell them things, and 
then they squeeze people.  They make files and network the files.  These are TM 
career people who are very good at what they do.  These are apparatchiks who 
are unquestioningly loyal subordinates.   For them it is about enforcing the 
guidelines.  If they had better guidelines they would enforce them too.  It is 
a lot like being confronted with that German officer investigator actor in 
Inglorious Bastards. 
http://voices.yahoo.com/inglorious-bastards-using-tarantinos-movie-teaching-5616344.html
   
That's the course office and the system that set it up.  Evidently it is the 
best we have to work with.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Om, waht oh.  I may lose my Dome badge, again.  I got called in by the chief 
> inspector the other day over my religious activities with non-TM pundits. 

Well, since TM isn't a religion (nyuk), what should they expect? Maybe if they 
taught it in the context of the six systems of Indian philosophy derived from 
the "eternal Religion of the Vedas" MMY, they wouldn't have this problem!


 If it goes badly they'll take my Dome badge away, again.  It is still in the 
balance but it is an interesting thing; they have these anti-religious 
practices paragraphs in the Dome meditation admission guidelines that are a 
snare.  The paragraphs are part of a business plan to coerce people to use TM 
movement joytish astrology and yagya services more exclusively by using the 
dome admission as a punishment.  I had an hour long interview in the Peace 
Palace the other day.  Some committee that I'll not see will adjudicate my 
case.  "We have something in our files, tell us about it."
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hot weather in Fairfield

[Bhairitu]

Well now Mike you know it is all because YOU didn't come and fly in the 
domes. ;-)

On 07/25/2012 06:50 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
> Fairfield should call on Gov. Rick Perry to come and lead a prayer for rain. 
> He did  so ,here in Houston, last year and the drought began to break and so 
> far this year we are way ahead of our rainfall needs. It appears as if the ME 
> in the domes and yagya *performing* brahmins has dried up the environment.
>
>   
>
> 
>   From: Buck 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:18 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hot weather in Fairfield
>
>
> 
>   
>
>
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>>
>>
>> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>>> I just checked and the forecast if for 104 degrees iin Ffld for Wednesday.  
>>> Things are changing and no the focus is on mediating the now inevitable 
>>> climate changes. Thank goodness for scientists who are coming up with the 
>>> ideas to counteract, hopefully, the changes.
>>>
>> A lot more meditating and a lot less consumption of things is the only way 
>> to get all of us through. Think of a standard of living in Iowa at about the 
>> time of the war of 1812.  That would be the right target sustainability 
>> level to get to.  If people meditated more they'd consume less through the 
>> hours of the day and they'd also become more spiritually aligned with large 
>> Nature.  More meditation would be good for everyone.
>> Respectfully,
>> -Buck in the Dome
>>
> Well, and as usual it is non-meditation and non-meditators that are the 
> problem globally.  The science is getting pretty clear about this.
>
> 
>

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[FairfieldLife] Debt crisis: Greece to run out of money by August 20

[wgm4u]

So Judy, what's the solution, Oh guruji? More 'stimulus' (nyuk), or should they 
start printing monopoly money? I await thy response!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can TM Save Medicare from bankruptcy?

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> What a crock! Obesity is going to be the biggest killer of Medicare and 
> Medicaid and TM has no effect on weight management.

Dix brings up a good point, can TM *alone* solve your problems? The simple 
answer is NO, that's why Patanjali came up with *8* limbs of Yoga to address 
these issues.

MMY seduced us into thinking all we needed is TM (and not even willpower, btw), 
but then he was promoting TM and neo-hinduism (which I am not saying is bad, 
btw).

I lost 30 lbs using willpower and now still have to use willpower to *keep it 
off*!! I'm 162lbs from a 184.5 (was down to 153lbs) 5 years ago! Will power is 
what worked for me! Have been a steady weight since then.


>>However ,TM might make one *feel* better about their weight problem.

Correct, if you buy into the TM propaganda that TM is the panacea of all our 
problems, the only problem with that is basically it's true, but the devil in 
the details is it may take you 7, I repeat 7 lifetimes to realize that! Thanks 
M for the cogent info! (Actually thanks to Charlie Lutes).

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can TM Save Medicare from bankruptcy?

[Bhairitu]

I learned at one of the Ayurvedic workshops I attended where some of the 
practitioners themselves were overweight that we eat for our mind not 
our body.   I don't know how many people have told me a doctor put them 
on a diet and they had to quit because they lost their sense of judgment.

In 1972 a friend who was attending naturopathic school suggested I get a 
physical there.  The doctor, who was an MD getting his ND, asked me if I 
was a vegetarian.  I said no but I had been trying a vegetarian diet for 
the last two weeks.  He said, "you're already anemic" and showed me some 
self tests I could do for that myself. He suggest eating some animal 
protein two or three times a week.

In addition to Ayurveda I also use some of the principals of metabolic 
typing which is about the at which you burn carbs. Actually Ayurveda is 
very much about that too and the MT systems has three body types too.  
There is the carb type (semi-veg) and the protein type (meat eater) and 
mixed type.  And our bodies tend to be dynamic so they don't often keep 
the same state.

It's all more complicated than just burning more calories than you take 
in.  And we haven't even discussed endocrine insufficiencies yet. ;-)

On 07/25/2012 12:54 PM, Share Long wrote:
> Bhairitu wrote:
>
> Then you have people who think there is nothing to losing weight that 
> probably have never been on a diet in their life.
>
> My reply:
> Don't even get me started!  Whoops, too late!
>
> For one thing, it isnot mainly a matter of will power.  As I explain to my 
> Mom, if a person has a sugery breakfast, and even milk will make it so, then 
> they will be craving sweets/carbs the rest of the day.
>
> For me, one of the tricks to dieting is to eat food I really enjoy,  And to 
> eat good protein especially early in the day.  These days I eat mostly 
> uncooked food.  Wasn't planning that but it's simply unfolded in this way.  
> And I'm so grateful for our locally owned health food store which carries 
> lots of locally made food such as soups and humuus and more recently a 
> totally yummy quinoa salad.  Quinoa has all 12 amino acids and is a seed 
> rather than a grain.  Plus I just found out that it's high in calcium which 
> is great since I don't eat dairy foods.
>
> Oy, am I sounding like a Baining now?!
>
> Anyway, Lawson, as you can tell, I'm into all this and I've been successful 
> losing weight and keeping it off.  Without feeling deprived and without 
> compromising my health.  My recent blood tests show that even my B12 levels 
> are great, especially for someone who's mainly vegetarian.  If you'd like 
> some encouragement or good info, feel free to email me directly.  Best of 
> luck with all this.
> Share
>
>
>
> 
>   From: Bhairitu 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can TM Save Medicare from bankruptcy?
>   
>
>
> Those are probably your vakriti or how you are functioning when the
> evaluation was done.  The constitution (prakriti) doesn't change.
>
> When kapha runs high with me I don't have much appetite and certainly
> none to eat any kind of breakfast.  The appetite won't appear until
> early afternoon.   The appetite can also be vague instead of suggesting
> something the body wants.  I've used the one meal a day diet which
> Doulliard recommends but it was difficult to do since you eat at noon
> and gets blown if someone wants to go out to dinner. :-D
>
> I feel for anyone who has a weight problem because our medical system
> doesn't deal with them very well.  Most doctors at best have had only
> one quarter of nutrition in school.  They also hate the idea of
> biochemical individuality which is at the core of Ayurveda and Chinese
> medicine.  They want one shoe to fit all. Then you have people who think
> there is nothing to losing weight that probably have never been on a
> diet in their life.  What a joke!
>
> On 07/24/2012 05:30 PM, sparaig wrote:
>> Actually, my original body-type evaluation was pitta-vatta, then 
>> pitta-kapha, and now, kapha-pitta.
>>
>> Id's ay that before I learned TM, it was pure vatta. LIterally I was the 
>> skinnyest kid in the school system. I was literally envious of "98 pound 
>> weakings" as I weighted 93 pounds my senior year in high school. Gained 10 
>> pounds after I started martial arts and another 10 a few months after I 
>> learned TM. By the time I joined the USAF at the age of 23, I weight a 
>> whopping 127 pounds at 5'10"
>>
>>
>>
>> L
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>> Sounds like "accumulated kapha" to me. I assume however you have tried
>>> or investigated Ayurveda for weight relief?  Sometimes it can be a bit
>>> tricky especially if you are pitta/kapha because the prime stimulator
>>> which is pungent taste can aggravate pitta if not careful.  Also if
>>> diabetes doesn't run in your family you are unlikely to develop it and
>>> if 

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation

[emptybill]

If this is what you meant as "my point" –

Lawson sez:

  And again: noticing something, however subtle, even the first
glimmering of awareness of awareness, is no longer pure consciousness.

  Empty Bill sez:

Theny ou do not understand what the witness actually is.

However,if you are referring to a point that is different, then please
restate you point.

Lawson also sez:

  There are two different comments I have heard on this topic that apply,
at least
for me:

1. there is no end to how subtle the mantra can become.



2. the thought OF the mantra is still the mantra.

Empty Bill sez:

  1.There is indeed an end to the subtlety of the mantra.

  According to Patanjali, the scale of subtlety terminatesin the
"a-linga" – the quality of unmarked, non-differentiation (YS
1.45). Thus,whether an object is a physical quanta or a subjective
thought, pradhana/prakritiis the final field of subtlety.

  Empty Bill further sez about your claim that -

  2. The thought OF the mantra is NOT the mantra.

If your statement were true then simply the thought
"mantra"would equally qualify as the mantra. A "thought
of" or "thought about" the mantra is simply a thought –
that is all. The actual meditation bija-mantra is that human speech
sound pronounced by the initiating teacher. Any thought that is
either"of" or "about" the bija-mantra, is a relational
remembrance – a signal to return to the mantra but is not the mantra
itself.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> Many words, none of which address my point.
>
> L
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > One of the first signs of the progressive development of CC is the
> > simultaneous presence of "pure awareness" together with either
> > the mantra or thought(s).
> >
> > You are not accounting for this development but are treating "pure
> > consciousness" only in the exclusionary terms of TC. MMY never
> > treated CC as a sudden appearance but rather as a gradual refinement
and
> > clarification of the gross and subtle values of the nervous system.
> >
> > MMY emphasized that "Pure Awareness/Pure Consciousness" is
> > always present because it is the "who" in who-we-are. He always
> > pointed to this as the reason anyone might transcend spontaneously
> > during ordinary human experience and that, in fact, such had
happened
> > many times in documented human history.
> >
> > Shankara, for his part, pointed out that the sakshi/witness is what
we
> > are and can never be generated by any yoga, quality of knowing or
any
> > activity.
> >
> > Lawson sez:
> >
> > Buddhists and other traditions warn of getting trapped in subtle
> > experiences. As presented, and argued, the instruction is to revel
in
> > the trap, in the guise of calling it something other than a trap.
> >
> > Another case of "sweet poison," which SSRS appears to indulge in a
lot,
> > it seems.
> >
> > To bad you need to make such claims. You are so poorly informed
about
> > other meditative traditions that you believe you can include them as
a
> > misfit "proof" of your assertions. When you make a claim such as
> > the one above you demonstrate that you are a clueless TM ideologue.
> >
> >   Robin gets a pass because when he generalizes about "The East"
> > everyone here knows he has no clue about these traditions. You,
however,
> > present yourself as if you understood them when you so obviously do
not.
> >
> >

[FairfieldLife] Quiet Zone Construction Has Begun - No Train Horns Starting in October

[Dick Mays]

Quiet Zone Construction Has Begun in Fairfield
No Train Horns Starting in October
 
 
A press release issued by Fairfield City Councilperson Michael Halley states 
that Fairfield's Railroad Quiet Zone project is nearing completion.
 
Construction of the project began on Monday and will continue through 
September, 19th.
 
There will be medians constructed at all of Fairfield's seven at-grade 
crossings, those being:
 
D St, B St, Court St, Main St, 4th St, 9th St, and 23rd St.
 
The press release explains the median specifications; stating that the 
non-traversable medians are two feet wide, nine inches tall, and run as far as 
100 feet back from the railroad gait arm.
 
Halley says, "the medians are the simplest and most effective type of 
Supplemental Safety Measure (SSM) required by the Federal Railroad 
Administration (FRA) to establish a quiet zone.
 
According to the FRA risk calculator Fairfield's quiet zone will be twice as 
safe as the current horn blowing set up. By preventing vehicles from 
maneuvering around closed gate arms the risk of accidents is reduced by 50%."
 
Once construction of the project is completed, the city of Fairfield will file 
a Notice of Establishment with the FRA.
 
After an issue-free 21 day comment period, the quiet zone will become a 
reality, which means that trains passing through town will no longer be 
required to sound their horns four times for every crossing, though they are 
permitted to use their horns at any time there's an obstruction in the tracks; 
wildlife, pedestrians or automobiles for example, according to the press 
release.
 
Halley says that establishment of Fairfield's quiet zone is expected in October.

[FairfieldLife] Peter Bogdanovich on Violence in the Movies

[Bhairitu]

"People go to a movie to have a good time, and they get killed. It's a 
horrible, horrible event. It makes me sick that I made a movie about it."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dark-knight-rises-shooting-peter-bogdanovich-353774

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can TM Save Medicare from bankruptcy?

[Mike Dixon]

Good strategury Share! High protein, low carb and fat breakfast keeps blood 
sugar levels more even, sustaining energy levels longer. It may take 2-3 weeks 
to feel the effect but it works. However, it needs to be a lifestyle otherwise 
you gain back everything you lost. I did the yo-yo thing too many times. That 
trains the body to hang on to every ounce of fat and make more so you don't 
*starve*. You lose twenty and gain back twenty-five.

 


 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can TM Save Medicare from bankruptcy?
  

   
 
Bhairitu wrote:

Then you have people who think there is nothing to losing weight that probably 
have never been on a diet in their life.

My reply:
Don't even get me started!  Whoops, too late!

For one thing, it isnot mainly a matter of will power.  As I explain to my Mom, 
if a person has a sugery breakfast, and even milk will make it so, then they 
will be craving sweets/carbs the rest of the day.

For me, one of the tricks to dieting is to eat food I really enjoy,  And to eat 
good protein especially early in the day.  These days I eat mostly uncooked 
food.  Wasn't planning that but it's simply unfolded in this way.  And I'm so 
grateful for our locally owned health food store which carries lots of locally 
made food such as soups and humuus and more recently a totally yummy quinoa 
salad.  Quinoa has all 12 amino acids and is a seed rather than a grain.  Plus 
I just found out that it's high in calcium which is great since I don't eat 
dairy foods.

Oy, am I sounding like a Baining now?!

Anyway, Lawson, as you can tell, I'm into all this and I've
 been successful losing weight and keeping it off.  Without feeling deprived 
and without compromising my health.  My recent blood tests show that even my 
B12 levels are great, especially for someone who's mainly vegetarian.  If you'd 
like some encouragement or good info, feel free to email me directly.  Best of 
luck with all this.
Share

 


 From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can TM Save Medicare from bankruptcy?
  

  
Those are probably your vakriti or how you are functioning when the 
evaluation was done.  The constitution (prakriti) doesn't change.

When kapha runs high with me I don't have much appetite and certainly 
none to eat any kind of breakfast.  The appetite won't appear until 
early afternoon.   The appetite can also be vague instead of suggesting 
something the body wants.  I've used the one meal a day diet which 
Doulliard recommends but it was difficult to do since you eat at noon 
and gets blown if someone wants to go out to dinner. :-D

I feel for anyone who has a weight problem because our medical system 
doesn't deal with them very well.  Most doctors at best have had only 
one quarter of nutrition in school.  They also hate the idea of 
biochemical individuality which is at the core of Ayurveda and Chinese 
medicine.  They want one shoe to fit all. Then you have people who think 
there is nothing to losing weight that probably have never been on a 
diet in their life.  What a joke!

On 07/24/2012 05:30 PM, sparaig wrote:
> Actually, my original body-type evaluation was pitta-vatta, then pitta-kapha, 
> and now, kapha-pitta.
>
> Id's ay that before I learned TM, it was pure vatta. LIterally I was the 
> skinnyest kid in the school system. I was literally envious of "98 pound 
> weakings" as I weighted 93 pounds my senior year in high school. Gained 10 
> pounds after I started martial arts and another 10 a few months after I 
> learned TM. By the time I joined the USAF at the age of 23, I weight a 
> whopping 127 pounds at 5'10"
>
>
>
> L
>
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> Sounds like "accumulated kapha" to me. I assume however you have tried
>> or investigated Ayurveda for weight relief?  Sometimes it can be a bit
>> tricky especially if you are pitta/kapha because the prime stimulator
>> which is pungent taste can aggravate pitta if not careful.  Also if
>> diabetes doesn't run in your family you are unlikely to develop it and
>> if you do easily reversed.
>>
>> And remember in a famine the obese will survive.  Skinny minis not so
>> much. ;-)
>>
>> On 07/23/2012 08:33 PM, sparaig wrote:
>>> Actually, for what it is worth, I'm about 100% overweight (300 pounds 
>>> instead of 150 pounds) and my BP is STILL "low normal."  WebMD interviewed 
>>> me about the issue about 10 years ago. There's still strain on my heart, 
>>> long-term issues with cholesterol, extra wear and tear on my joints, etc, 
>>> but the primary health issues linked to extra weight aren't manifesting in 
>>> me yet.
>>>
>>> L
>>>
>>> L
>>>
>>> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
>>> wrote:
 What a crock! Obesity is going to be the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can TM Save Medicare from bankruptcy?

[Share Long]

Bhairitu wrote:

Then you have people who think there is nothing to losing weight that probably 
have never been on a diet in their life.

My reply:
Don't even get me started!  Whoops, too late!

For one thing, it isnot mainly a matter of will power.  As I explain to my Mom, 
if a person has a sugery breakfast, and even milk will make it so, then they 
will be craving sweets/carbs the rest of the day.

For me, one of the tricks to dieting is to eat food I really enjoy,  And to eat 
good protein especially early in the day.  These days I eat mostly uncooked 
food.  Wasn't planning that but it's simply unfolded in this way.  And I'm so 
grateful for our locally owned health food store which carries lots of locally 
made food such as soups and humuus and more recently a totally yummy quinoa 
salad.  Quinoa has all 12 amino acids and is a seed rather than a grain.  Plus 
I just found out that it's high in calcium which is great since I don't eat 
dairy foods.

Oy, am I sounding like a Baining now?!

Anyway, Lawson, as you can tell, I'm into all this and I've been successful 
losing weight and keeping it off.  Without feeling deprived and without 
compromising my health.  My recent blood tests show that even my B12 levels are 
great, especially for someone who's mainly vegetarian.  If you'd like some 
encouragement or good info, feel free to email me directly.  Best of luck with 
all this.
Share




 From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can TM Save Medicare from bankruptcy?
 

  
Those are probably your vakriti or how you are functioning when the 
evaluation was done.  The constitution (prakriti) doesn't change.

When kapha runs high with me I don't have much appetite and certainly 
none to eat any kind of breakfast.  The appetite won't appear until 
early afternoon.   The appetite can also be vague instead of suggesting 
something the body wants.  I've used the one meal a day diet which 
Doulliard recommends but it was difficult to do since you eat at noon 
and gets blown if someone wants to go out to dinner. :-D

I feel for anyone who has a weight problem because our medical system 
doesn't deal with them very well.  Most doctors at best have had only 
one quarter of nutrition in school.  They also hate the idea of 
biochemical individuality which is at the core of Ayurveda and Chinese 
medicine.  They want one shoe to fit all. Then you have people who think 
there is nothing to losing weight that probably have never been on a 
diet in their life.  What a joke!

On 07/24/2012 05:30 PM, sparaig wrote:
> Actually, my original body-type evaluation was pitta-vatta, then pitta-kapha, 
> and now, kapha-pitta.
>
> Id's ay that before I learned TM, it was pure vatta. LIterally I was the 
> skinnyest kid in the school system. I was literally envious of "98 pound 
> weakings" as I weighted 93 pounds my senior year in high school. Gained 10 
> pounds after I started martial arts and another 10 a few months after I 
> learned TM. By the time I joined the USAF at the age of 23, I weight a 
> whopping 127 pounds at 5'10"
>
>
>
> L
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> Sounds like "accumulated kapha" to me. I assume however you have tried
>> or investigated Ayurveda for weight relief?  Sometimes it can be a bit
>> tricky especially if you are pitta/kapha because the prime stimulator
>> which is pungent taste can aggravate pitta if not careful.  Also if
>> diabetes doesn't run in your family you are unlikely to develop it and
>> if you do easily reversed.
>>
>> And remember in a famine the obese will survive.  Skinny minis not so
>> much. ;-)
>>
>> On 07/23/2012 08:33 PM, sparaig wrote:
>>> Actually, for what it is worth, I'm about 100% overweight (300 pounds 
>>> instead of 150 pounds) and my BP is STILL "low normal."  WebMD interviewed 
>>> me about the issue about 10 years ago. There's still strain on my heart, 
>>> long-term issues with cholesterol, extra wear and tear on my joints, etc, 
>>> but the primary health issues linked to extra weight aren't manifesting in 
>>> me yet.
>>>
>>> L
>>>
>>> L
>>>
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
 What a crock! Obesity is going to be the biggest killer of Medicare and 
 Medicaid and TM has no effect on weight management. However ,TM might make 
 one *feel* better about their weight problem.

 

 
From: merlin 
 To:
 Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:47 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can TM Save Medicare from bankruptcy?
 

 
 �
 



 Can TM Save Medicare

 from bankruptcy?


 http://www.tm.org/blog/news/can-tm-save-medicare-and-medicaid/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=can-tm-save-medicare-and-medicaid

>>>
>
>


 

[FairfieldLife] OMG: kiMcid maarjaara-janebhyaH (sp?)

[cardemaister]

Something for cat-people?

http://www.youtube.com/mugumogu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Dog Carry Lazy Cat Home

[Mike Dixon]

Ha! Kitnapping! My Spinoni pup watches TV. She loves the dog on the Travelers 
Insurance commercial. Whenever she hears the jingle, she comes running to the 
TV and stands there watching the dog with her tail and butt wagging 90 miles an 
hour! She also liked the cat falling out of the tree on the VW commercial.

 


 From: cardemaister 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:28 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Dog Carry Lazy Cat Home
  

   
 

Domoi nizi(sp?) /duh-moy nizzy!/ == Carry [her/him] home!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt0r8m0CcXs

   
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[Buck]

Hopefully guidelines facilitate what you are doing and don't get in the way of 
what you are doing.

>
> 
> >
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Whittling the Dome guidelines
> > > > 
> > > > Those parts in the Dome admission guideline about pundits, joytish and 
> > > > yagyas really don't need to be there.  They don't have much to do with 
> > > > running the meditation programs in the Domes.  There evidently is 
> > > > something else going on in those paragraphs.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Effectively they are an administrative attempt to control religious 
> > > practices by using the Dome admission as a punishment towards coercing 
> > > the use of TM-sanctioned vedic/hindu astrological and religious 
> > > practices.  Part of the policy question becomes: is there not a place in 
> > > the Domes or the TM movement for just practitioners of meditation and the 
> > > TM-sidhis without judging and interfering with people's religious 
> > > practices?  What do those paragraphs have to do with running the Dome 
> > > program?
> > 
> > Within TM, it seems we have TM and TM-Sidhi practitioners over here, and 
> > then sanctioned TM religious activities over there, like over in Vedic 
> > City.  Within this it seems the TM-Rajas with this anti-religious activity 
> > policy are using in a business plan the Dome admission policy as coercion 
> > towards using the TM-sanctioned religious practices more exclusively.
> >
> 
> It's proly bad enough to be 'anti-saint'.  Does the new TM.org really want to 
> be known as 'anti-religious' in business as well?  Public grants and funding 
> going to an institution discriminating, based on religious activity?  That 
> does not sound good at all.  
>  
> > >  
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Buck, do you ever ask yourself why you "buck" the system?  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bucking?  Naw, I'm an Iowan, an old practicing mediator, and a pretty 
> > > > > reasonable person.  By experience and the science I'd like to see the 
> > > > > numbers do well in the Domes.  I'm quite hope full and I'd like to 
> > > > > see those people facilitate the Dome numbers better.  I'm pretty 
> > > > > simple.  They've got old problems that they've created with the Dome 
> > > > > numbers with those guidelines and the meditating community.  Raja 
> > > > > Hagelin has created a lot of process inside to help run things since 
> > > > > Maharishi's death.  Things could change.  I got time.  
> > > > > -Buck 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  From: Buck 
> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:19 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   
> > > > > > Om, waht oh.  I may lose my Dome badge, again.  I got called in by 
> > > > > > the chief inspector the other day over my religious activities with 
> > > > > > non-TM pundits.  If it goes badly they'll take my Dome badge away, 
> > > > > > again.  It is still in the balance but it is an interesting thing; 
> > > > > > they have these anti-religious practices paragraphs in the Dome 
> > > > > > meditation admission guidelines that are a snare.  The paragraphs 
> > > > > > are part of a business plan to coerce people to use TM movement 
> > > > > > joytish astrology and yagya services more exclusively by using the 
> > > > > > dome admission as a punishment.  I had an hour long interview in 
> > > > > > the Peace Palace the other day.  Some committee that I'll not see 
> > > > > > will adjudicate my case.  "We have something in our files, tell us 
> > > > > > about it."
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Graham Nash on Morning Joe

[Bhairitu]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc-morning_joe/#48317488

Now who is it in the Beatles who could sing really high harmonies?

[FairfieldLife] Dog Carry Lazy Cat Home

[cardemaister]

Domoi nizi(sp?) /duh-moy nizzy!/ == Carry [her/him] home!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt0r8m0CcXs

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hot weather in Fairfield

[Bhairitu]

On 07/25/2012 07:41 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
>>> Thank goodness for scientists who are coming up
>>> with the ideas to counteract, hopefully, the
>>> changes...
>>>
> Alex Stanley:
>> Well, I'm doing my part by having the MacBook play
>> the rain raga 24 hours a day.
>>
> If you love watching movies and listening to music
> at home, and you have lots of DVDs and CDs, you may
> want to build a digital system that can deliver your
> movies and music without having to physically insert
> the disk in a player in a particular room.
>
> If you're like me, you've got the records in a
> carton in the garage, the DVDs in shoe boxes, and
> the CDs on the coffee table.
>
> Sure, you can simply turn on a laptop and play a
> music file. But, what I need is a device to deliver
> all my files, the videos, photos, and the music to
> any room in my house at any time; a place to store
> the large digital video and music files such as my
> book; and a fast way to access all the files,
> streaming via wireless connectivity.
>
> If you like this idea, you'll want a fast broadband
> connection with a wireless dual-band N router. And,
> a NAS (Network Attached Storage) device connected to
> the wireless router.
>
> That way, videos, movies, TV recordings and music can
> be accessed even when your PC is off and you are away
> from your desk. All you have to do is select your
> media with a media player like a Roku box and sit
> back and relax and enjoy.
>
> With a NAS you get a great Admin Console GUI to work
> with that is intuitive and looks wonderful. Nothing
> is cryptic, and everything you want is right there
> in front of you.
>
> Netgear N900 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router:
> http://tinyurl.com/6wfcljy
>
> NETGEAR ReadyNAS NV+ 4-Bay (Diskless):
> http://tinyurl.com/7jour7o
>
> Read more:
> http://www.rwilliams.us/tech/
>
>

So you DO watch movies.  So why are you criticizing others who do too?  
Probably getting up and down to insert a disc is a little good 
exercise.  Most of the time I'm watching either Netflix or an occasional 
movie on Amazon or Vudu or stuff I've recorded on my DVR.  I pick up a 
disc rental occasionally at Redbox because they, like the others, get 
some exclusives or have some deals for earlier releases.  For instance 
last night I watched a Sony Stage6 release on DVD from Redbox starring 
Luke Wilson and Sameul L Jackson called "Meeting Evil" by the director 
of "S Darko".  It's good thriller but probably too violent for most the 
fragile FFL souls.  It may show up on NF WI in a couple months.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1810697/

What I liked about the movie is that it will become another chronicle of 
the economic collapse of the US.  Luke Wilson plays a fired real estate 
agent whose own home is in foreclosure who meets a stranger played by 
Jackson who takes him on a wild ride.   The opening scenes shows Wilson 
driving through neighborhoods alive with foreclosure signs.  It takes 
indie films like these to chronicle current events because Hollywood 
wants to show people a dream world that no longer exists.

And BTW, need I remind you've I've been able to stream movies to my 53" 
HDTV since 2005 when I go an AVeL Linkplayer2 which connected to my home 
network.  This was before I got a Comcast DVR and was using my JVC D-VHS 
HD recorder to save shows from the Comcast box (yes it would record 
encrpyted shows).  The unencrypted broadcast shows I would record to a 
computer and play them back through the Linkplayer which also upscaled 
DVDs over component.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[Buck]

>
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > Whittling the Dome guidelines
> > > 
> > > Those parts in the Dome admission guideline about pundits, joytish and 
> > > yagyas really don't need to be there.  They don't have much to do with 
> > > running the meditation programs in the Domes.  There evidently is 
> > > something else going on in those paragraphs.
> > >
> > 
> > Effectively they are an administrative attempt to control religious 
> > practices by using the Dome admission as a punishment towards coercing the 
> > use of TM-sanctioned vedic/hindu astrological and religious practices.  
> > Part of the policy question becomes: is there not a place in the Domes or 
> > the TM movement for just practitioners of meditation and the TM-sidhis 
> > without judging and interfering with people's religious practices?  What do 
> > those paragraphs have to do with running the Dome program?
> 
> Within TM, it seems we have TM and TM-Sidhi practitioners over here, and then 
> sanctioned TM religious activities over there, like over in Vedic City.  
> Within this it seems the TM-Rajas with this anti-religious activity policy 
> are using in a business plan the Dome admission policy as coercion towards 
> using the TM-sanctioned religious practices more exclusively.
>

It's proly bad enough to be 'anti-saint'.  Does the new TM.org really want to 
be known as 'anti-religious' in business as well?  Public grants and funding 
going to an institution discriminating, based on religious activity?  That does 
not sound good at all.  
 
> >  
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Buck, do you ever ask yourself why you "buck" the system?  
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Bucking?  Naw, I'm an Iowan, an old practicing mediator, and a pretty 
> > > > reasonable person.  By experience and the science I'd like to see the 
> > > > numbers do well in the Domes.  I'm quite hope full and I'd like to see 
> > > > those people facilitate the Dome numbers better.  I'm pretty simple.  
> > > > They've got old problems that they've created with the Dome numbers 
> > > > with those guidelines and the meditating community.  Raja Hagelin has 
> > > > created a lot of process inside to help run things since Maharishi's 
> > > > death.  Things could change.  I got time.  
> > > > -Buck 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  From: Buck 
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:19 PM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > >   
> > > > > Om, waht oh.  I may lose my Dome badge, again.  I got called in by 
> > > > > the chief inspector the other day over my religious activities with 
> > > > > non-TM pundits.  If it goes badly they'll take my Dome badge away, 
> > > > > again.  It is still in the balance but it is an interesting thing; 
> > > > > they have these anti-religious practices paragraphs in the Dome 
> > > > > meditation admission guidelines that are a snare.  The paragraphs are 
> > > > > part of a business plan to coerce people to use TM movement joytish 
> > > > > astrology and yagya services more exclusively by using the dome 
> > > > > admission as a punishment.  I had an hour long interview in the Peace 
> > > > > Palace the other day.  Some committee that I'll not see will 
> > > > > adjudicate my case.  "We have something in our files, tell us about 
> > > > > it."
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound?

[John]

Sounds can be used for healing too, as the ancient Egyptians as evidenced by 
some of the huge quartz stones that were carved near the pyramids.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
>
> 
> http://theaviationist.com/2012/07/02/m2000-flyover/
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can TM Save Medicare from bankruptcy?

[Bhairitu]

Those are probably your vakriti or how you are functioning when the 
evaluation was done.  The constitution (prakriti) doesn't change.

When kapha runs high with me I don't have much appetite and certainly 
none to eat any kind of breakfast.  The appetite won't appear until 
early afternoon.   The appetite can also be vague instead of suggesting 
something the body wants.  I've used the one meal a day diet which 
Doulliard recommends but it was difficult to do since you eat at noon 
and gets blown if someone wants to go out to dinner. :-D

I feel for anyone who has a weight problem because our medical system 
doesn't deal with them very well.  Most doctors at best have had only 
one quarter of nutrition in school.  They also hate the idea of 
biochemical individuality which is at the core of Ayurveda and Chinese 
medicine.  They want one shoe to fit all. Then you have people who think 
there is nothing to losing weight that probably have never been on a 
diet in their life.  What a joke!

On 07/24/2012 05:30 PM, sparaig wrote:
> Actually, my original body-type evaluation was pitta-vatta, then pitta-kapha, 
> and now, kapha-pitta.
>
> Id's ay that before I learned TM, it was pure vatta. LIterally I was the 
> skinnyest kid in the school system. I was literally envious of "98 pound 
> weakings" as I weighted 93 pounds my senior year in high school. Gained 10 
> pounds after I started martial arts and another 10 a few months after I 
> learned TM. By the time I joined the USAF at the age of 23, I weight a 
> whopping 127 pounds at 5'10"
>
>
>
> L
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> Sounds like "accumulated kapha" to me. I assume however you have tried
>> or investigated Ayurveda for weight relief?  Sometimes it can be a bit
>> tricky especially if you are pitta/kapha because the prime stimulator
>> which is pungent taste can aggravate pitta if not careful.  Also if
>> diabetes doesn't run in your family you are unlikely to develop it and
>> if you do easily reversed.
>>
>> And remember in a famine the obese will survive.  Skinny minis not so
>> much. ;-)
>>
>> On 07/23/2012 08:33 PM, sparaig wrote:
>>> Actually, for what it is worth, I'm about 100% overweight (300 pounds 
>>> instead of 150 pounds) and my BP is STILL "low normal."  WebMD interviewed 
>>> me about the issue about 10 years ago. There's still strain on my heart, 
>>> long-term issues with cholesterol, extra wear and tear on my joints, etc, 
>>> but the primary health issues linked to extra weight aren't manifesting in 
>>> me yet.
>>>
>>> L
>>>
>>> L
>>>
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
 What a crock! Obesity is going to be the biggest killer of Medicare and 
 Medicaid and TM has no effect on weight management. However ,TM might make 
 one *feel* better about their weight problem.



 
From: merlin 
 To:
 Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:47 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can TM Save Medicare from bankruptcy?
 


 �




 Can TM Save Medicare

 from bankruptcy?


 http://www.tm.org/blog/news/can-tm-save-medicare-and-medicaid/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=can-tm-save-medicare-and-medicaid

>>>
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[Buck]

> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> > Whittling the Dome guidelines
> > 
> > Those parts in the Dome admission guideline about pundits, joytish and 
> > yagyas really don't need to be there.  They don't have much to do with 
> > running the meditation programs in the Domes.  There evidently is something 
> > else going on in those paragraphs.
> >
> 
> Effectively they are an administrative attempt to control religious practices 
> by using the Dome admission as a punishment towards coercing the use of 
> TM-sanctioned vedic/hindu astrological and religious practices.  Part of the 
> policy question becomes: is there not a place in the Domes or the TM movement 
> for just practitioners of meditation and the TM-sidhis without judging and 
> interfering with people's religious practices?  What do those paragraphs have 
> to do with running the Dome program?

Within TM, it seems we have TM and TM-Sidhi practitioners over here, and then 
sanctioned TM religious activities over there, like over in Vedic City.  Within 
this it seems the TM-Rajas with this anti-religious activity policy are using 
in a business plan the Dome admission policy as coercion towards using the 
TM-sanctioned religious practices more exclusively.

>  
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Buck, do you ever ask yourself why you "buck" the system?  
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Bucking?  Naw, I'm an Iowan, an old practicing mediator, and a pretty 
> > > reasonable person.  By experience and the science I'd like to see the 
> > > numbers do well in the Domes.  I'm quite hope full and I'd like to see 
> > > those people facilitate the Dome numbers better.  I'm pretty simple.  
> > > They've got old problems that they've created with the Dome numbers with 
> > > those guidelines and the meditating community.  Raja Hagelin has created 
> > > a lot of process inside to help run things since Maharishi's death.  
> > > Things could change.  I got time.  
> > > -Buck 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: Buck 
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:19 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > Om, waht oh.  I may lose my Dome badge, again.  I got called in by the 
> > > > chief inspector the other day over my religious activities with non-TM 
> > > > pundits.  If it goes badly they'll take my Dome badge away, again.  It 
> > > > is still in the balance but it is an interesting thing; they have these 
> > > > anti-religious practices paragraphs in the Dome meditation admission 
> > > > guidelines that are a snare.  The paragraphs are part of a business 
> > > > plan to coerce people to use TM movement joytish astrology and yagya 
> > > > services more exclusively by using the dome admission as a punishment.  
> > > > I had an hour long interview in the Peace Palace the other day.  Some 
> > > > committee that I'll not see will adjudicate my case.  "We have 
> > > > something in our files, tell us about it."
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Guru Dev" and Remote Viewing

[Bhairitu]

I just remember the guy being on Art Bell (I think he was on more than 
once) and out of curiosity picked up the book.  I figured that folks 
here get a hoot out the book.

Also out of curiosity I bought one of Major Ed Dames remote viewing VHS 
tapes.  When after a week or two it didn't show up and I didn't even get 
a confirmation email I called the number and Dames answered.  The 
duplication of the tapes had held up the order but it arrived about a 
week later.

Bell's show was amusing though he tended to be a poor interviewer always 
dragging the focus from the interviewed back to himself. He is also the 
cousin of Turq's one time guru Freddie Lenz.  I attended one of the UFO 
symposiums here in the Bay Area in the early 1990s and though I didn't 
know who he was at the time Bell emceed the event.

On 07/25/2012 05:16 AM, merudanda wrote:
> Hope he will  not have the same effect on FFL galactic member
>--here, courtesy Bhairitu noozguru, the Guru Dev chapter seen in "white
> dhoti"with incense and Gandharva music (Maharishi Gandharva Veda
> music,?) followed by the chapter conversation with God.
> Guru Dev
>
> Early in our research, both my monitor and I were becoming con-vinced
> that there was much more to this project than the simple investigation
> of who was flying the saucers. By the summer of 1994,
> we had obtained remote-viewing corroboration of the abduction
> phenomenon, and we were becoming fairly well versed in the ideas
> underlying the basic genetics program of the Greys and the prob-
> lems that are being faced by the Martians. However, sensing a
> much bigger picture, we agreed after much discussion to solidify
> our earlier but tentative decision to include other targets of wise
> beings besides Jesus that could give us advice as to how to interpret
> some of our data. This chapter is the result of targeting one such
> individual, and I conducted the following session solo in a Type 1
> setting.
> Guru Dev was the meditation teacher of Maharishi Mahesh
> Yogi. During the many months of my remote-viewing research, I
> was sensing clearly that I needed to ask Guru Dev some questions.
> Other remote viewers had been observing a group of Martians that
> they called the "priesthood." These Martians seemed to have some
> out-of-body travel and communication capabilities, and my monitor
> thought that maybe they did the Sidhis. The Martian priest-
> hood was on our long list of targets, and I knew that I would
> eventually be given the target blind. But I wanted to get some in-
> formation about them before diving my mind into their midst. If
> they did the Sidhis, I needed to know this, and soon. Thus, one
> morning in the summer of 1994 in Ann Arbor, Michigan, I targeted Guru
> Dev. Since it is a solo session, I report it as a narrative,
> thereby omitting nearly all of the jargon of SRV's protocols.
> Date: 24 July 1994
> Place: Ann Arbor, Michigan
> Data: Type 1
> Target coordinates: 3745/4021
> The preliminaries indicated energetics, land, and something man-made.
> My initial perceptions included colors such as blue, white, and
> brown. The textures that I perceived were airy. Again, and as with
> all SRV sessions regardless of data type, I had no idea how I would
> get to Guru Dev, or in what setting I would find him. The protocols
> of SRV are set up to force the unconscious to make all of these
> decisions. My conscious mind was just along for the ride.
> The temperature was comfortable. I began to discern a sweet
> taste, and the sounds of a form of Indian music called Gandarva. In
> the subspace "air" there was the delicate smell of incense. I began
> to chuckle to myself: it seemed that Guru Dev was setting a stage.
> As I proceeded with the protocols, I found myself in a place that
> seemed more subspace than physical. The topography seemed ir-
> regularly shaped, with dips and holes, like tide pools along the
> beaches of East Africa. But there was no water. I noticed that there
> was a sky overhead.
> Slightly off-center of my view, a light being looked at me. I perceived
> this being to be the target and approached. I sensed that it
> was indeed Guru Dev, and he was waiting for me.
> Before engaging in a conversation with Guru Dev, I looked
> around. I made careful observations of the surrounding environment. It
> was quite colorful, and I found myself remarking that the
> place was a bit weird (for me). The overall ambiance was very
> comfortable, but I had never imagined a place that seemed so physical
> and subspace at the same time. It certainly was a place of special
> significance, although to this day I do not know where it was.
> Redirecting my attention to Guru Dev, I noticed that he was
> wearing wraparound white clothing, although the color was not to-
> tally white. Indeed, the clothing had many shades of luminous colors to
> it. I telepathically told him that I had questions. He seemed
> to know this, and he indicated I could proceed.
> Remaining within the c

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> [...]
> > > How would YOU go about achieving these goals, Barry?
> > 
> > I would try not to alienate the hardcore TBs for a start. The
> > more people realise they are part of a fundamentalist group
> > the less likely they'll be to stick around, check out Buck's
> > tales of falling numbers in the domes, there's got to be a
> > reason if it's that good.
> >
> 
> The millennium didn't come, so the people who were hanging around for hte 
> millennium moved on.
> 
> > 
> > Did I read in the Times of India that half the money held
> > in trust has been half-inched by Maharishi's family? I'd do 
> > something about that, probably a few billion useful dollars
> > there.
> 
> 
> I have heard many things over the years, but I am not familiar with the 
> phrase "half-inched."

Rhyming slang. Half-inched = Pinched.

 
> And I doubt if it is "billions" of dollars. There is no way you can derive 
> that much money from the revenue collected from initiations, TM-Sidhis 
> instruction, sales of ayurvedic stuff, etc., even if you assumed that no 
> money was ever spent on operational expenses over the last 50 years.

Land, all the buildings that were brought and sold over the years,
donations etc. The TMO is (was) loaded it's just that Marshy was
shrewd and never put any money back in, this stopped people being
lazy and living off the movement. And that made sure it only grows.

When all the UK academies were sold the money went to international,
wasn't as much as it could have been because money was rarely spent
on upkeep. If money was needed it was always borrowed.
 
> L
> 
> 
> 
> L
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Guru Dev" and Remote Viewing

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> Hail dear  Sri snoozeguru--who are the Grays- our Johnny Grey?

According to my limited information, the "greys" are a type of galactic 
travellers that are up to not much good and could be behind the widely reported 
phenomen of abductions. One Crop Circle warned that the "greys" are not to be 
trusted. Amongst other things they offered the US Government access to 
mindblowing technologies in return for being able to do experiemnts on humans. 
This was declined already in 1954.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> Whittling the Dome guidelines
> 
> Those parts in the Dome admission guideline about pundits, joytish and yagyas 
> really don't need to be there.  They don't have much to do with running the 
> meditation programs in the Domes.  There evidently is something else going on 
> in those paragraphs.
>

Effectively they are an administrative attempt to control religious practices 
by using the Dome admission as a punishment towards coercing the use of 
TM-sanctioned vedic/hindu astrological and religious practices.  Part of the 
policy question becomes: is there not a place in the Domes or the TM movement 
for just practitioners of meditation and the TM-sidhis without judging and 
interfering with people's religious practices?  What do those paragraphs have 
to do with running the Dome program?
 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > >
> > > Buck, do you ever ask yourself why you "buck" the system?  
> > > 
> > >
> > 
> > Bucking?  Naw, I'm an Iowan, an old practicing mediator, and a pretty 
> > reasonable person.  By experience and the science I'd like to see the 
> > numbers do well in the Domes.  I'm quite hope full and I'd like to see 
> > those people facilitate the Dome numbers better.  I'm pretty simple.  
> > They've got old problems that they've created with the Dome numbers with 
> > those guidelines and the meditating community.  Raja Hagelin has created a 
> > lot of process inside to help run things since Maharishi's death.  Things 
> > could change.  I got time.  
> > -Buck 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Buck 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:19 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
> > >  
> > > 
> > >   
> > > Om, waht oh.  I may lose my Dome badge, again.  I got called in by the 
> > > chief inspector the other day over my religious activities with non-TM 
> > > pundits.  If it goes badly they'll take my Dome badge away, again.  It is 
> > > still in the balance but it is an interesting thing; they have these 
> > > anti-religious practices paragraphs in the Dome meditation admission 
> > > guidelines that are a snare.  The paragraphs are part of a business plan 
> > > to coerce people to use TM movement joytish astrology and yagya services 
> > > more exclusively by using the dome admission as a punishment.  I had an 
> > > hour long interview in the Peace Palace the other day.  Some committee 
> > > that I'll not see will adjudicate my case.  "We have something in our 
> > > files, tell us about it."
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Guru Dev" and Remote Viewing

[merudanda]

Hail dear  Sri snoozeguru--who are the Grays- our Johnny Grey?
Now the night-huntig-disturbing-queston:
And who can we send from our World-government of Enlightenment/or FFL as
our representatives (on demand of Guru Dev HIMSELF in  shining white)to
become our so much needed "galactic diplomat" who are "mature(d)
sufficiently to be able calmly to communicate "with the "Galactic
Federation"?
Since as you already know:
"The Federation eventually wants human, and specifically Earth,
participation.
This is the goal. Earth needs a, world government for this to occur,
however. This is the single most important criterion for membership in
the Federation. The Federation will not deal with planetary factions. "
  Volunteers, by voting,  by force even among us FFL? Any suggestion?
  Here the criteria /profile  (only Siddhas) and what  type of
personalities our Guru Dev in shining white "emphasize".

"Indeed, practice of the Sidhis will greatly assist humans with their
interactions
with the council members in the Federation. Guru Dev's emphasis related
to the types of personalities that are on the council.
Human representatives familiar with matters of consciousness would more
easily interact with these personalities regarding matters of state than
could representatives not so trained. I got the warning sense that
humans should not mess around with the Federation by sending just anyone
to the headquarters. It would be like the United States sending an
untrained person to be the U.S. ambassador in Moscow. No one would take
the person onerously, and Russians would eventually wonder what kind of
people the Americans are. Humans need to send representatives to the
Federation chambers who are actively engaged in their own accelerated
growth in consciousness. Mature and rapidly evolving
human representatives would speak well for their fellow global citizens
on Earth."
This is certainly no laughing matter Courtney Brown, Ph.D., is an
Associate Professor of Political Science at Emory University in
Atlanta,Georgia. His academic specializations include nonlinear
mathematical modeling of social phenomena, environmental politics,
democracy in developing societies, and elections. He held the Charles
Grove Haines Professorship at the University of California, Los Angeles,
and was a Hewlett Fellow at the Carter Presidential Center.
And has the science behind him as this references (and the SCI course
description in his book) shows without any doubt:

Oates, Robert M., Jr. 1990. Creating Heaven on Earth: The Mechanics
of the Impossible. Fairfield, Iowa: Heaven on Earth Publications.
Orme-Johnson, David W., Charles N. Alexander, John L. Davies,
Howard M. Chandler, and Wallace E. Larimore. 1988. Interna-
tional Peace Project in the Middle East. Journal of Conflict Resolution
32:776-812.
Orme-Johnson, David W., and John T. Farrow. 1977. Scientific
Research on the Transcendental Meditation Program: Collected Papers,
Volumes I-V. Fairfield, Iowa: Maharishi International University
Press.
Royal, Lyssa, and Keith Priest. 1992. Visitors from Within. Scottsdale,
Arizona: Royal Priest Research Press.
...
Wilber, Ken. 1977. The Spectrum of Consciousness. Wheaton, Illinois:
The Theosophical Publishing House
..
Maharishi International University. 1990. The Maharishi Effect. Fair-
field, Iowa: Maharishi International University Press.
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. 1967. Bhagav ad-Git a: A New Translation
and Commentary. Washington, D.C.: Age of Enlightenment Press.
 . 1995. The Science of Being and the Art of Living. New York:
Meridian.
Mavromatis, Andreas. 1987. Hypnagogia,: The Unique State of
Consciousness Between Wakefulness and Sleep. New York: Routledge.


Now very late again-- going to let my body rest-- I am very aware that
it will be no lightening, thunder, storm or rain that will disturb my
nighty peace---it will this hunting thought:"To locate the Galactic
Federation within the physical universe could be suicidal to both the
organization as well as many species."
Can we afford someone to lose on this " Mission Impossible" dangerous
and suicidal for ...who?...will it destroy...the world  we know...??

h..




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
>
> Hope he will  not have the same effect on FFL galactic member
>   --here, courtesy Bhairitu noozguru, the Guru Dev chapter seen in
"white
> dhoti"with incense and Gandharva music (Maharishi Gandharva Veda
> music,?) followed by the chapter conversation with God.
> Guru Dev
>
> Early in our research, both my monitor and I were becoming con-vinced
> that there was much more to this project than the simple investigation
> of who was flying the saucers. By the summer of 1994,
> we had obtained remote-viewing corroboration of the abduction
> phenomenon, and we were becoming fairly well versed in the ideas
> underlying the basic genetics program of the Greys and the prob-
> lems that are being faced by the Martians. However, sensing a
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> You are correct, in my opinion, that the various services 
> are meant to be a revenue stream. Peter McWilliams sent me 
> an email before he died, describing a conversation he had 
> with MMY 35+ years ago about how the TM Movement's growth 
> was unsustainable. He too thought that these services were 
> meant to compensate for declining revenue from initiations.
> 
> That said, I think you are ignoring several things in your 
> analysis:

> The primary focus of the TM Organization as directed by MMY 
> was on three things:
> 
> 1) ensure some kind of survival of the TM Organization (and 
> its projects) after MMY died;
> 
> 2) create permanent groups of TM-Sidhas to meditate in groups 
> for world peace;
> 
> 3) raise money to support goals one and two.
> 
> How would YOU go about achieving these goals, Barry?


I am WAY the wrong person to ask about this; I do
not consider any of the three goals worth achieving.


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > When it comes to pundits, it's the same thing. Deal
> > > > with the wrong kind, and it might look as if you were
> > > > hiring people to chant and make offerings to Hindu
> > > > gods and goddesses to achieve the things you want in
> > > > life. Can't have that. Gotta hire only Maharishi-
> > > > approved pundits, so that it's all "scientific,"
> > > > and you can't be accused of doing something religious.
> > > 
> > > I wonder what he problem is really, they might even be 
> > > scared of Buck bringing negative vibes into the dome,
> > > little realising they are doing plenty of that. But it
> > > might be just a financial thing - the TMO is in deep
> > > financial shit. Or it might be they sincerely believe
> > > their stuff is better! 
> > 
> > I was obviously being facetious above, but I suspect
> > this is the real reason. And it's not that they actually
> > believe that their stuff is better; it's that they don't
> > want the example of someone benefiting from something
> > that "wasn't manufactured here" available to other TMers.
> > 
> > It seems to me merely an extension of the same demon-
> > ization of techniques of meditation and self discovery
> > that they see as "competitors" that has been going on
> > with the TMO since Day One. You don't want anyone to
> > even *consider* a "competing" technique or service, 
> > much less benefit from one and tell other meditators
> > about it. 
> > 
> > The myth has always been "If Maharishi didn't teach it,
> > it can't possibly be of any use, and it might be BAD."
> > 
> > > Whatevr the reason this inquisition
> > > is outrageous. I would have been over the horizon in 
> > > seconds. But then I was the one telling them jyotish was
> > > a bunch of superstitious crap when they suggested I stay
> > > inside and don't watch a solar eclipse. I Told them I'm not 
> > > scared of shadows and that was the end of it (bar a lecture
> > > on supreme knowledge as revealed by Marshy.) I watched the
> > > eclipse, they cowered in their offices. But there was no
> > > banning me from the flying room, they must have stepped
> > > up the paranoia since those days.
> > 
> > To me it's just another hallmark of a spiritual movement
> > in decline. They have realized that they cannot effec-
> > tively expand their numbers by appealing to the public;
> > they have both priced themselves out of that market and
> > "PR'd" themselves out of it with their shenanigans. So
> > the only way to bring in "new meditators" is by getting
> > someone else to pay for large-scale programs, such as for
> > schools or the military or the "underprivileged." 
> > 
> > That said, the flip side of that coin is to keep the
> > existing meditators from leaving. This policy seems to
> > be an implementation of that, by trying to prevent them
> > from learning that there are other options -- cheaper
> > and possibly more effective options -- than the TMO
> > offers. Ignorance is not only bliss, it's stasis. How
> > ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen
> > Par-eee? Simple. Never let them see (or even hear about)
> > Par-eee.
> > 
> > 
> > > > As for Jyotish:
> > > > 
> > > > ['I sense that someone is about to swindle you.' 'Wow, 
> > > > thanks for the warning! How much do I owe you?' by White, Andy]
> > > 
> > > Quite.
> > 
> > Indeed. Love this cartoon. It really captures the 
> > essence of it, both from the seller's side, and the
> > buyer's side.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
[...]
> > How would YOU go about achieving these goals, Barry?
> 
> I would try not to alienate the hardcore TBs for a start. The
> more people realise they are part of a fundamentalist group
> the less likely they'll be to stick around, check out Buck's
> tales of falling numbers in the domes, there's got to be a
> reason if it's that good.
>

The millennium didn't come, so the people who were hanging around for hte 
millennium moved on.

> 
> Did I read in the Times of India that half the money held
> in trust has been half-inched by Maharishi's family? I'd do 
> something about that, probably a few billion useful dollars
> there.


I have heard many things over the years, but I am not familiar with the phrase 
"half-inched."


And I doubt if it is "billions" of dollars. There is no way you can derive that 
much money from the revenue collected from initiations, TM-Sidhis instruction, 
sales of ayurvedic stuff, etc., even if you assumed that no money was ever 
spent on operational expenses over the last 50 years.


L



L

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> >
> > Dr. Michael Shermer replies to Harris  (and the "recent reseach on 
> > choices") in his Sci Am article "Free Won't".  The experimentation isn't as 
> > simple as a neurological blip, then choice made a few second later.  First, 
> > as to the blip indicating a choice, even more recent reseach indicates the 
> > first choice can be negated through the power of "Won't"...and so on; with 
> > multiple blips and choices popping up. The net result is more like an 
> > evolutionary tree of neurological indicators or blips and choices, with a 
> > final choice if forced.
> > 
> > The basic pattern of choices then; turns out to be unpredictable but 
> > probabilistic, reminding us of Feynman's "sum over histories" outcome of 
> > quantum particles.  The final outcome or "choice" of the particle is a sum 
> > over histories of possible outcomes in a multiverse of choices.
> > ...
> > Shermer doesn't refute the Harris determinism theme though. He mainly 
> > brings up new reseach showing that the outcome of choices presented is a 
> > highly complex affair; as we would say "karma is unfathomable".
> 
> This is an interesting way to put it. I was just reading about Feynman's 
> work. Yes there is also that possibility that seems to be an intervention. If 
> one notices the mantra is gone and the sense arises that one should begin it 
> again, and you don't intervene, did  you make the choice to come back to the 
> mantra?


A more interesting question: is there such a thing as NOT thinking the mantra 
if you notice that you aren't thinking it?

While it is possibly/probably true when thinking is taking place on a very 
"superficial" level, that there is an obvious either/or to thinking or 
not-thinking the mantra, I have often found that the opposite is also true: 
when thinking is subtle, the distinction between realizing you are not-thinking 
the mantra and actually thinking it, blurs completely.

It all goes back to how one defines "thinking the mantra."

There are two different comments I have heard on this topic that apply, at 
least for me: 

there is no end to how subtle the mantra can become.
the thought OF the mantra is still the mantra.

[FairfieldLife] Flu vaccine to be given to all UK children

[eustace10679]

What is the vedic position vis-a-vis vaccines?

=

Flu vaccine to be given to all UK children

Nasal vaccination of children aged two to 17 may save up to 2,000 lives a year, 
say experts, and will cost £100m a year

guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 25 July 2012 05.45 EDT

All children are to be given the flu vaccination after experts said it could 
save up to 2,000 lives a year.

The scheme, which is expected to be rolled out in 2014, will see all children 
aged two to 17 given the vaccination through a nasal spray.

Younger children will be given the spray by their GP and schoolchildren will 
receive it at school.

The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, which advises the 
government on vaccination policy, said the flu programme should be extended to 
children because it could reduce the rate of infection by 40%.

The health secretary, Andrew Lansley, has accepted the recommendation, a 
Department of Health spokesman said.

At present, over-65s, pregnant women and people with a serious medical 
condition, including children, are eligible for a seasonal flu jab.

The UK will become the first country to offer the flu vaccine to healthy 
children free of charge, with the measure expected to cost £100m a year.

Healthy children are among those least likely to develop complications from 
being infected by flu, but their close contact with each other means they are 
more likely to transmit the virus to one another and other vulnerable people.

The mass immunisation programme is estimated to lead to 11,000 fewer hospital 
admissions and 2,000 fewer deaths every year.

The Department of Health said it needed to examine a number of issues before 
the programme can be rolled out.

Masses of the vaccine, which will be used on about 9 million children, need to 
be sourced and a decision needs to be made on who will deliver the vaccine â€" 
whether it should be school nurses or other healthcare workers.

Health experts also need to decide how the programme will be delivered in a 
six- to eight-week period ahead of the flu season.

The chief medical officer, Professor Dame Sally Davies, said: "Severe winter 
flu and its complications can make people really ill and can kill, particularly 
those who are weak and frail, which is why we already offer vaccinations to the 
most at risk groups.

"We accept the advice of our expert committee that rolling out a wider 
programme could further protect children, with even a modest takeup helping to 
protect our most vulnerable.

"There are significant challenges to delivering a programme that requires up to 
9 million children to be vaccinated during a six-week period and we will look 
at the recommendations in detail to decide how best to develop and deliver the 
programme."

Professor Adam Finn, professor of paediatrics at the University of Bristol, 
said: "I think vaccination of healthy schoolchildren with the new nasal flu 
vaccine is a good idea as we know it's effective and safe and flu can be a 
serious illness in childhood, not just in old age.

"There should be time to do some more research before we introduce the vaccine 
to help us predict how well such a programme would be accepted and would work.

"Although children don't die of flu as often as old people do, they can get 
sick enough to require hospitalisation. Many others are ill enough to require 
time off school, which is disruptive for them and their families.

"Children also spread flu to other children and to adults including school 
staff and their families. Preventing flu in children benefit all children and 
others too."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jul/25/flu-vaccine-all-uk-children

[FairfieldLife] Power of sound?

[cardemaister]

http://theaviationist.com/2012/07/02/m2000-flyover/

[FairfieldLife] Re: A movie to die for?

[Richard J. Williams]

> > Well maybe not a career as a stand up comedian 
> > but maybe a cult leader. Oh wait, you already 
> > tried that. :-D
> > 
Robin Carlsen: 
> Nice
> 
"...at this moment, all that matters to most of us 
is what a bunch of smutty purveyors of violent 
fantasy, half-rate actors and an industry of sick 
narcissism is feeling at this moment."

http://tinyurl.com/cxwk76k

> > > Now say you love me, bhairiitu.
> > >
> > > Robin
> > 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie to die for?

[Share Long]

Yep, I've felt "off" a few times recently.  Next day found out solar flares had 
happened.




 From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie to die for?
 

  
I was joking about the Mayan calendar but solar storms may do more than 
just knock out the power grid. I recently posted a link to some research 
that showed that human behavior can be effected by them too.

On 07/23/2012 10:26 PM, Emily Reyn wrote:
> Just got back from a Star Party here where there was a presentation on the 
> Mayan calendar and the apocalypse prediction.  I never did give it any real 
> consideration but attended for curiosity.   Sorry...there just isn't anything 
> to that myth.  Re: solar storms...yes, we are in a period where there are 
> more of them.  If one were to disable our power grid long-term, it would be 
> rough.  Best to know where that emergency kit is :)
>
> Yes, get a laser pointer and learn the safety regs on that as opposed to a 
> gun.
>
>
> 
>   From: Bhairitu 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 2:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie to die for?
> 
>
> 
> Around here we have cities going bankrupt.  If you call the cops they
> may not show up for a while. Some folks would rather keep a gun or two
> on hand because we do have people breaking into homes to steal things
> and in some cases killing the residents in the process. You can get a
> hand gun with a laser on it so you don't have to keep going to the range
> to keep your skills up.  Just make sure the dot is on the perpetrator
> and pull the trigger.  In some cases just seeing the red dot might make
> them flee which might mean that you could just point a cheap laser
> pointer on them and they'd split.
>
> To an extent our media disconnects the idea of shooting someone from the
> actual effect of the act.  When you shoot to kill someone you are ending
> their life, all their dreams and plans regardless of how twisted they
> are.  But if it is you or them what is your decision?
>
> Education, yes.  An informed society is much better. What about one with
> an economic safety net too?  The kid was supposedly having a tough time
> finding a job even as a grad student.  In other times that wouldn't have
> happened.  And then there is karma which is considered too woo-woo for
> some folks but he simple question to him might have been did he consider
> how he might like someone shooting him?
>
> I swear though the Mayans might have been on to something and it might
> have been approximately when civilization was going to go insane.  Even
> today I went out to Thom Hartmann's chat room (eat your heart out Alex)
> and watched other liberal fans argue gun control.  I tell ya, some
> liberals are SO NAIVE.
>
> And then there are the solar storms.
>
> On 07/23/2012 02:02 PM, Emily Reyn wrote:
>> Education, education, education. Conflict resolution options, conflict 
>> resolution options, conflict resolution options must be taught at an early 
>> age.  We have raised a generation that is in to immediate gratification on 
>> many levels - in part, a fallout from the techno advances.  Patience is 
>> still a virtue.  Seattle has had a rash of gun violence recently.  A recent 
>> tragic case where a guy pulled out his gun to shoot someone who had 
>> "insulted" him and shot a father in his car with his family doing errands by 
>> mistake.  I also think we can do much more with coordinated databases and an 
>> increased bar for ownership, but, there will be no movement on that if this 
>> article is accurate on public opinion re: gun control.
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/23/opinion/frum-guns/index.html
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>From: Bhairitu 
>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 10:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movie to die for?
>>
>>
>>
>> OTOH, we need to avoid "there otta be a law" syndrome that infects too
>> many of my fellow liberals.  Their actions often get half-baked laws
>> passed that might even have unintended consequences.  Then we also get
>> bad laws passed because some politician realizes if he wants to get
>> re-elected better get some legislation passed to show them "doing
>> something."
>>
>> Case in point is that a law was passed here in California and apparently
>> elsewhere requiring anyone using syringes or even lancets for diabetes
>> testing to put those in a "certified box" for disposal and they have to
>> be taken to a specific location though some come with a mailer.  This
>> law was passed in 2008 but I was only aware of it late last year when
>> the disposal company put a poorly written flier about it in their
>> billing.  The idea, of course was to keep recycling sorters from getting
>> stuck with the syringes and lancets and becoming infected.  Fine but
>> about any box, small c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hot weather in Fairfield

[Richard J. Williams]

> > Thank goodness for scientists who are coming up 
> > with the ideas to counteract, hopefully, the
> > changes...
> >
Alex Stanley:
> Well, I'm doing my part by having the MacBook play 
> the rain raga 24 hours a day.
>
If you love watching movies and listening to music 
at home, and you have lots of DVDs and CDs, you may 
want to build a digital system that can deliver your 
movies and music without having to physically insert 
the disk in a player in a particular room.

If you're like me, you've got the records in a 
carton in the garage, the DVDs in shoe boxes, and 
the CDs on the coffee table.

Sure, you can simply turn on a laptop and play a 
music file. But, what I need is a device to deliver 
all my files, the videos, photos, and the music to 
any room in my house at any time; a place to store 
the large digital video and music files such as my 
book; and a fast way to access all the files, 
streaming via wireless connectivity. 

If you like this idea, you'll want a fast broadband 
connection with a wireless dual-band N router. And, 
a NAS (Network Attached Storage) device connected to 
the wireless router. 

That way, videos, movies, TV recordings and music can 
be accessed even when your PC is off and you are away 
from your desk. All you have to do is select your 
media with a media player like a Roku box and sit 
back and relax and enjoy. 

With a NAS you get a great Admin Console GUI to work 
with that is intuitive and looks wonderful. Nothing 
is cryptic, and everything you want is right there 
in front of you.

Netgear N900 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router:  
http://tinyurl.com/6wfcljy

NETGEAR ReadyNAS NV+ 4-Bay (Diskless):
http://tinyurl.com/7jour7o

Read more:
http://www.rwilliams.us/tech/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking Bad, the last season

[Richard J. Williams]

turquoiseb:
> Speaking as a fan, and as someone who has watched 
> the series get better and better, culminating in
> what will be taught in university classes of the
> future as The Perfect Season Of Television last
> year, I didn't know what to expect with the new
> season. 
>
For someone who "dosen't watch much TV", you sure 
are watching a lot of TV! LoL!

 
> I know I'm a little behind the curve here, because
> all of the other fans of the series got to see this
> new episode on Sunday, but I've been moving, and 
> didn't get my copy until today. 
> 
> So how could they possibly follow up The Perfect 
> Season Of Television? 
> 
> Easy. Start with the first episode of what looks 
> like it will be The Even More Perfect Season Of 
> Television.
>
"Stay away from most popular entertainment. Most of 
what passes for legitimate entertainment is inferior 
or foolish and only caters to or exploits people's 
weaknesses. 

Avoid being one of the mob who indulges in such 
pastimes. Your life too short and you have important 
things to do. Be discriminating about what images 
and ideas you permit into your mind. 

If you yourself don't choose what thoughts and 
images you expose yourself to, someone else will, 
and their motives may not be the highest. It is the 
easiest thing in the world to slide imperceptibly 
into vulgarity. 

But there's no need for that to happen if you 
determine not to waste your time and attention on 
mindless pap." - Epictetus

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> You are correct, in my opinion, that the various services are meant to be a 
> revenue stream. Peter McWilliams sent me an email before he died, describing 
> a conversation he had with MMY 35+ years ago about how the TM Movement's 
> growth was unsustainable. He too thought that these services were meant to 
> compensate for declining revenue from initiations.
> 
> 
> That said, I think you are ignoring several things in your analysis:
> 
> The primary focus of the TM Organization as directed by MMY was on three 
> things:
> 
> 1) ensure some kind of survival of the TM Organization (and its projects) 
> after MMY died;
> 
> 2) create permanent groups of TM-Sidhas to meditate in groups for world peace;
> 
> 3) raise money to support goals one and two.
> 
> 
> How would YOU go about achieving these goals, Barry?

I would try not to alienate the hardcore TBs for a start. The
more people realise they are part of a fundamentalist group
the less likely they'll be to stick around, check out Buck's
tales of falling numbers in the domes, there's got to be a
reason if it's that good.

Did I read in the Times of India that half the money held
in trust has been half-inched by Maharishi's family? I'd do 
something about that, probably a few billion useful dollars
there.


> L
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > When it comes to pundits, it's the same thing. Deal
> > > > with the wrong kind, and it might look as if you were
> > > > hiring people to chant and make offerings to Hindu
> > > > gods and goddesses to achieve the things you want in
> > > > life. Can't have that. Gotta hire only Maharishi-
> > > > approved pundits, so that it's all "scientific,"
> > > > and you can't be accused of doing something religious.
> > > 
> > > I wonder what he problem is really, they might even be 
> > > scared of Buck bringing negative vibes into the dome,
> > > little realising they are doing plenty of that. But it
> > > might be just a financial thing - the TMO is in deep
> > > financial shit. Or it might be they sincerely believe
> > > their stuff is better! 
> > 
> > I was obviously being facetious above, but I suspect
> > this is the real reason. And it's not that they actually
> > believe that their stuff is better; it's that they don't
> > want the example of someone benefiting from something
> > that "wasn't manufactured here" available to other TMers.
> > 
> > It seems to me merely an extension of the same demon-
> > ization of techniques of meditation and self discovery
> > that they see as "competitors" that has been going on
> > with the TMO since Day One. You don't want anyone to
> > even *consider* a "competing" technique or service, 
> > much less benefit from one and tell other meditators
> > about it. 
> > 
> > The myth has always been "If Maharishi didn't teach it,
> > it can't possibly be of any use, and it might be BAD."
> > 
> > > Whatevr the reason this inquisition
> > > is outrageous. I would have been over the horizon in 
> > > seconds. But then I was the one telling them jyotish was
> > > a bunch of superstitious crap when they suggested I stay
> > > inside and don't watch a solar eclipse. I Told them I'm not 
> > > scared of shadows and that was the end of it (bar a lecture
> > > on supreme knowledge as revealed by Marshy.) I watched the
> > > eclipse, they cowered in their offices. But there was no
> > > banning me from the flying room, they must have stepped
> > > up the paranoia since those days.
> > 
> > To me it's just another hallmark of a spiritual movement
> > in decline. They have realized that they cannot effec-
> > tively expand their numbers by appealing to the public;
> > they have both priced themselves out of that market and
> > "PR'd" themselves out of it with their shenanigans. So
> > the only way to bring in "new meditators" is by getting
> > someone else to pay for large-scale programs, such as for
> > schools or the military or the "underprivileged." 
> > 
> > That said, the flip side of that coin is to keep the
> > existing meditators from leaving. This policy seems to
> > be an implementation of that, by trying to prevent them
> > from learning that there are other options -- cheaper
> > and possibly more effective options -- than the TMO
> > offers. Ignorance is not only bliss, it's stasis. How
> > ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen
> > Par-eee? Simple. Never let them see (or even hear about)
> > Par-eee.
> > 
> > 
> > > > As for Jyotish:
> > > > 
> > > > ['I sense that someone is about to swindle you.' 'Wow, 
> > > > thanks for the warning! How much do I owe you?' by White, Andy]
> > > 
> > > Quite.
> > 
> > Indeed. Love this cartoon. It really captures the 
> > essence of it, both from the seller's side, and the
> > buyer'

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Yep, you got it.  These clause about using non-TM movement religious services 
> exclusively evidently were put in the guidelines as part of a business plan.  
> It appeared in the Dome admission guidelines as part of a pitch to support 
> the movement pundits exclusively.  It got toned down a little towards saying 
> it is okay to go to other services but not host or organize them now. 
> 

But how did they catch you?

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > When it comes to pundits, it's the same thing. Deal
> > > > with the wrong kind, and it might look as if you were
> > > > hiring people to chant and make offerings to Hindu
> > > > gods and goddesses to achieve the things you want in
> > > > life. Can't have that. Gotta hire only Maharishi-
> > > > approved pundits, so that it's all "scientific,"
> > > > and you can't be accused of doing something religious.
> > > 
> > > I wonder what he problem is really, they might even be 
> > > scared of Buck bringing negative vibes into the dome,
> > > little realising they are doing plenty of that. But it
> > > might be just a financial thing - the TMO is in deep
> > > financial shit. Or it might be they sincerely believe
> > > their stuff is better! 
> > 
> > I was obviously being facetious above, but I suspect
> > this is the real reason. And it's not that they actually
> > believe that their stuff is better; it's that they don't
> > want the example of someone benefiting from something
> > that "wasn't manufactured here" available to other TMers.
> > 
> > It seems to me merely an extension of the same demon-
> > ization of techniques of meditation and self discovery
> > that they see as "competitors" that has been going on
> > with the TMO since Day One. You don't want anyone to
> > even *consider* a "competing" technique or service, 
> > much less benefit from one and tell other meditators
> > about it. 
> > 
> > The myth has always been "If Maharishi didn't teach it,
> > it can't possibly be of any use, and it might be BAD."
> > 
> > > Whatevr the reason this inquisition
> > > is outrageous. I would have been over the horizon in 
> > > seconds. But then I was the one telling them jyotish was
> > > a bunch of superstitious crap when they suggested I stay
> > > inside and don't watch a solar eclipse. I Told them I'm not 
> > > scared of shadows and that was the end of it (bar a lecture
> > > on supreme knowledge as revealed by Marshy.) I watched the
> > > eclipse, they cowered in their offices. But there was no
> > > banning me from the flying room, they must have stepped
> > > up the paranoia since those days.
> > 
> > To me it's just another hallmark of a spiritual movement
> > in decline. They have realized that they cannot effec-
> > tively expand their numbers by appealing to the public;
> > they have both priced themselves out of that market and
> > "PR'd" themselves out of it with their shenanigans. So
> > the only way to bring in "new meditators" is by getting
> > someone else to pay for large-scale programs, such as for
> > schools or the military or the "underprivileged." 
> > 
> > That said, the flip side of that coin is to keep the
> > existing meditators from leaving. This policy seems to
> > be an implementation of that, by trying to prevent them
> > from learning that there are other options -- cheaper
> > and possibly more effective options -- than the TMO
> > offers. Ignorance is not only bliss, it's stasis. How
> > ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen
> > Par-eee? Simple. Never let them see (or even hear about)
> > Par-eee.
> > 
> > 
> > > > As for Jyotish:
> > > > 
> > > > ['I sense that someone is about to swindle you.' 'Wow, 
> > > > thanks for the warning! How much do I owe you?' by White, Andy]
> > > 
> > > Quite.
> > 
> > Indeed. Love this cartoon. It really captures the 
> > essence of it, both from the seller's side, and the
> > buyer's side.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: My new town...

[Richard J. Williams]

turquoiseb:
> ...at sunset, with a light fog rising from the canals...
> 
You didn't build that! LoL!

http://tinyurl.com/cz8up9r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantrum Yoga

[Richard J. Williams]

> > Words that come to mind regarding Turquoise 
> > B's posts: belligerent, aggressive, 
> > contemptuous. He gives the impression that 
> > he despises this forum and most of the people 
> > who post here. He frequently goads others, 
> > sneers at them, insults them. Although he 
> > claims otherwise, he is extremely attached 
> > to his own opinions and beliefs.  
> >
awoelflebater:
> And lest we forget the golden Barry classic,
> "Dumb angry cunts too stupid to live"... 
> 
A few of us pretty much pegged 'Uncle Tantra' as 
a phoney and a racist years ago. What is 
surprising is how long it took others to come to 
the same conclusion!

Shit, all Barry had to do is drive a few miles
over to Languedoc and send us a report about
the Cathars, or put his Cathar book online for 
us to read, or maybe visit the Library of Paris
to find out some information. 

Jeezus, you'd think a guy would have time to take 
a course in history from a community college or 
something! Because he didn't do any of the above,
so Barry got his ass kicked real good over on on 
Usenet at alt.religion.gnostic. LoL!

Everyone knows that Bogumils are derivbed from 
Paulicans, Paulicans from Manicheans, Manicheans 
from Gnostics, thus Cathars are derived from 
Gnostics. Moggers can understand this simple 
fact, 'cletantra can't. Go figure.

And, almost everyone knows that dualism is one
of the main religious philosphies in South Asia!

From: Uncle Tantra
Subject: Re: Question for Delia -- Catharism
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: 2003-09-11 01:26:49 PST
http://tinyurl.com/csduvzt

> > It's funny that you would enquire about the 
> > Cathars from a gal living in downtown L.A., 
> > when you're probably less than a mile from 
> > Languedoc! It may take Delia a year or two 
> > to respond to your query, so here's some 
> > data on the Cathars...
> >
Uncle Tantra:
> Willy, Willy, Willy, you're such an idiot 
> sometimes it actually inspires awe.  :-)
>
> I'm not interested in cheap, cheezy shit you 
> can find on the Net about the Cathars, most 
> of it fiction.  I specifically asked Delia how 
> they are regarded and "classified" in formal 
> religous studies programs, because dualism 
> doesn't quite fit into the polite 
> monotheist/polytheist/monism notions she's 
> been discussing lately.  It's not like I'm 
> going to *believe* or *agree with* any of 
> those formal religious studies "definitions," 
> but I am curious as to what they are.
>
> And you wouldn't know any of that because
> when it comes to anything you can't crib 
> off the Net, you're as hopeless as your 
> concept of geography.  Languedoc is a mile 
> away from Paris about the same as Austin is 
> a mile away from Lousiana. Why don't you walk 
> over to N'Awlins this afternoon and use their 
> library and learn something? :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hot weather in Fairfield

[Mike Dixon]

Fairfield should call on Gov. Rick Perry to come and lead a prayer for rain. He 
did  so ,here in Houston, last year and the drought began to break and so far 
this year we are way ahead of our rainfall needs. It appears as if the ME in 
the domes and yagya *performing* brahmins has dried up the environment.

 


 From: Buck 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:18 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hot weather in Fairfield
  

   
 


--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > I just checked and the forecast if for 104 degrees iin Ffld for Wednesday.  
> > Things are changing and no the focus is on mediating the now inevitable 
> > climate changes. Thank goodness for scientists who are coming up with the 
> > ideas to counteract, hopefully, the changes.
> >
> 
> A lot more meditating and a lot less consumption of things is the only way to 
> get all of us through. Think of a standard of living in Iowa at about the 
> time of the war of 1812.  That would be the right target sustainability level 
> to get to.  If people meditated more they'd consume less through the hours of 
> the day and they'd also become more spiritually aligned with large Nature.  
> More meditation would be good for everyone.
> Respectfully,
> -Buck in the Dome
>

Well, and as usual it is non-meditation and non-meditators that are the problem 
globally.  The science is getting pretty clear about this.

   
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
>
> Dr. Michael Shermer replies to Harris  (and the "recent reseach on choices") 
> in his Sci Am article "Free Won't".  The experimentation isn't as simple as a 
> neurological blip, then choice made a few second later.  First, as to the 
> blip indicating a choice, even more recent reseach indicates the first choice 
> can be negated through the power of "Won't"...and so on; with multiple blips 
> and choices popping up. The net result is more like an evolutionary tree of 
> neurological indicators or blips and choices, with a final choice if forced.
> 
> The basic pattern of choices then; turns out to be unpredictable but 
> probabilistic, reminding us of Feynman's "sum over histories" outcome of 
> quantum particles.  The final outcome or "choice" of the particle is a sum 
> over histories of possible outcomes in a multiverse of choices.
> ...
> Shermer doesn't refute the Harris determinism theme though. He mainly brings 
> up new reseach showing that the outcome of choices presented is a highly 
> complex affair; as we would say "karma is unfathomable".

This is an interesting way to put it. I was just reading about Feynman's work. 
Yes there is also that possibility that seems to be an intervention. If one 
notices the mantra is gone and the sense arises that one should begin it again, 
and you don't intervene, did  you make the choice to come back to the mantra?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > > The argument is simply because the presentation, as is, specifically 
> > > states there is a choice to be made, and that in the proper 
> > > circumstances, nothing need be done.
> > > 
> > > In fact, as long as there is a choice, there is a chooser, and as long as 
> > > there is a chooser, the choice should be made. Now, it is 
> > > sometimes/often/always my experience that simply being aware that I am 
> > > not thinking the mantra is indeed, in some sense, thinking the mantra, 
> > > but a choice didn't need to be made in that situation, anyway.
> > > 
> > > Buddhists and other traditions warn of getting trapped in subtle 
> > > experiences. As presented, and argued, the instruction is to revel in the 
> > > trap, in the guise of calling it something other than a trap.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Another case of "sweet poison," which SSRS appears to indulge in a lot, 
> > > it seems.
> > 
> > Recent neurological research seems to indicate that even in waking, choices 
> > are made in the brain prior to any conscious awareness that such a thing 
> > has happened, as much as seven seconds prior to conscious awareness that 'I 
> > made a choice'. This seems to cast doubt on the idea that there is a 
> > chooser that is conscious; rather we become aware of it after the fact. 
> > Maybe stuff just happens, and there is no chooser, and we have a false idea 
> > that 'I' did it.
> > 
> > > 
> > > L
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think this argument here may be because we have assigned a term to a 
> > > > particular experience and view that as an entity, as if it were an 
> > > > object. When we are awake we are conscious, even if we cannot define 
> > > > what consciousness is. 
> > > > 
> > > > The experience called TC is also consciousness, but it is not a 
> > > > separate entity. TM is kind of like an analytical reductionist state, 
> > > > where ever-present consciousness is separated out experientially, as it 
> > > > were, from normal activity. In waking the mind is active and the 
> > > > reflection of that in consciousness is active. When in TC, the mind is 
> > > > still, the reflection of that is still, no activity, no intellection, 
> > > > no ability to define. It is consciousness experiencing an undefined 
> > > > value; activity, consciousness in a defined value. 
> > > > 
> > > > So in a sense consciousness is never really 'pure' as a separate thing, 
> > > > it is just the means to grasp wider experience by creating a temporary 
> > > > artificial state. Consciousness is not something elsewhere, it is 
> > > > always here. To get people to meditate, one tells them a fib, that 
> > > > there is this better thing one can experience because if you tell them 
> > > > they already have consciousness in full measure, they won't be able to 
> > > > conceive that is true until they have a wider range of experience.
> > > > 
> > > > Take salt. A transparent crystal. We can find out more about salt by 
> > > > chemically breaking it down and putting it back together. We can break 
> > > > it into a yellow-greenish gas and a bright silvery metal. But the 
> > > > wholeness of salt is gone in this state, until we chemically put the 
> > > > two components back together. This analogy breaks down, because 
> > > > chlorine and sodium are entities

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Guru Dev" and Remote Viewing

[merudanda]

Hope he will  not have the same effect on FFL galactic member
  --here, courtesy Bhairitu noozguru, the Guru Dev chapter seen in "white
dhoti"with incense and Gandharva music (Maharishi Gandharva Veda
music,?) followed by the chapter conversation with God.
Guru Dev

Early in our research, both my monitor and I were becoming con-vinced
that there was much more to this project than the simple investigation
of who was flying the saucers. By the summer of 1994,
we had obtained remote-viewing corroboration of the abduction
phenomenon, and we were becoming fairly well versed in the ideas
underlying the basic genetics program of the Greys and the prob-
lems that are being faced by the Martians. However, sensing a
much bigger picture, we agreed after much discussion to solidify
our earlier but tentative decision to include other targets of wise
beings besides Jesus that could give us advice as to how to interpret
some of our data. This chapter is the result of targeting one such
individual, and I conducted the following session solo in a Type 1
setting.
Guru Dev was the meditation teacher of Maharishi Mahesh
Yogi. During the many months of my remote-viewing research, I
was sensing clearly that I needed to ask Guru Dev some questions.
Other remote viewers had been observing a group of Martians that
they called the "priesthood." These Martians seemed to have some
out-of-body travel and communication capabilities, and my monitor
thought that maybe they did the Sidhis. The Martian priest-
hood was on our long list of targets, and I knew that I would
eventually be given the target blind. But I wanted to get some in-
formation about them before diving my mind into their midst. If
they did the Sidhis, I needed to know this, and soon. Thus, one
morning in the summer of 1994 in Ann Arbor, Michigan, I targeted Guru
Dev. Since it is a solo session, I report it as a narrative,
thereby omitting nearly all of the jargon of SRV's protocols.
Date: 24 July 1994
Place: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Data: Type 1
Target coordinates: 3745/4021
The preliminaries indicated energetics, land, and something man-made.
My initial perceptions included colors such as blue, white, and
brown. The textures that I perceived were airy. Again, and as with
all SRV sessions regardless of data type, I had no idea how I would
get to Guru Dev, or in what setting I would find him. The protocols
of SRV are set up to force the unconscious to make all of these
decisions. My conscious mind was just along for the ride.
The temperature was comfortable. I began to discern a sweet
taste, and the sounds of a form of Indian music called Gandarva. In
the subspace "air" there was the delicate smell of incense. I began
to chuckle to myself: it seemed that Guru Dev was setting a stage.
As I proceeded with the protocols, I found myself in a place that
seemed more subspace than physical. The topography seemed ir-
regularly shaped, with dips and holes, like tide pools along the
beaches of East Africa. But there was no water. I noticed that there
was a sky overhead.
Slightly off-center of my view, a light being looked at me. I perceived
this being to be the target and approached. I sensed that it
was indeed Guru Dev, and he was waiting for me.
Before engaging in a conversation with Guru Dev, I looked
around. I made careful observations of the surrounding environment. It
was quite colorful, and I found myself remarking that the
place was a bit weird (for me). The overall ambiance was very
comfortable, but I had never imagined a place that seemed so physical
and subspace at the same time. It certainly was a place of special
significance, although to this day I do not know where it was.
Redirecting my attention to Guru Dev, I noticed that he was
wearing wraparound white clothing, although the color was not to-
tally white. Indeed, the clothing had many shades of luminous colors to
it. I telepathically told him that I had questions. He seemed
to know this, and he indicated I could proceed.
Remaining within the confines of the SRV protocols, I asked
him if the Martians have a priesthood. The response was clear:
they do. I then asked if the priesthood does the Sidhis. Quite
clearly, they do not. I immediately asked him what they worship.
Interestingly, he indicated to me that I should find out from them.
He thought I should experience it directly.
I then asked Guru Dev if the Federation council members do
the Sidhis. I sensed that he became a bit more serious, and he in-
formed me that tl with fully trained diplomats. The galactic diplomacy
course that I have constructed is outlined in a later chapter.(CHAPTER
God.)
To my readers, I have a confession: for this chapter, neither my
monitor nor I could restrain ourselves. For a long while we tried to
steer this book entirely away from religious topics. But the idea of
evolution toward some central point reappeared wherever we
looked. Moreover, religious themes kept overlapping with what we
thought were simple ET concepts.
Prior to this, my 

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation

[sparaig]

There's that pesky "I" again...


L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> 
> > > One thing that I'll mention is that the research on pure consciousness 
> > > shows that people's brains have returned to a more normal mode of 
> > > functioning by the time they actually "notice" PC. In a very real sense, 
> > > PC cannot be held onto or indulged in or even enjoyed. By the time you 
> > > notice it, it's been gone for quite a while, relatively speaking. 
> > 
> > None of this seems remotely right to me. This would mean PC is 
> > unconciousness ..
> 
> Bingo. It is hard to tell what people are referring to when they talk of 
> their own experience of transcendence. There is qualia, which restricts our 
> knowledge of what others experience. We can only go by the indications they 
> give, how they describe their states, and compare notes, with what we 
> experience or have experienced once. 
> 
> In this sense, what you describe, and what I used to call transcendence, as 
> defined by the TM, it was a momentary going into something, some kind of 
> blank, which is noticed, when you go out of it. It is nice, but I wouldn't 
> call it transcendence any more today. It's just a surrogate, Maharishi 
> himself called it a hazy experience of transcendence, not the 'real' 
> experience, but, marketer as he was, said, that he didn't want to call TM 
> 'Hazy Transcendental Meditation', how would that sound.
> 
> So, Maharishi was fully aware of this. But it's the trick that ties people to 
> the thing. We all know that he tricked us with the flying siddhis, he tricked 
> us with the time it takes to  CC, but his greatest trick was this 
> transcendence thing. 
> 
> Defining transcendence in this way, as the momentary loss of mantra without 
> thought, this slipping in and out of something, being aware in the sense of 
> noticing it, only AFTER the thing happens. And saying this can only be 
> achieved through a procedure he defines as effortless.  
> 
> That's what keeps people glued to the concept, that's square one of the 
> belief system.
> 
> Basically, as I see it today, this procedure,with the inward  and the outward 
> strokes of meditation, happens all WITHIN the mind. You never break out of 
> this, 'transcendence' here is like glued to a rubber-band, you are always 
> within the mind, following a script. Do this when that happens, and when 
> something else happens, do that. Ideal for people who have some kind of 
> obsessive disorder.
> 
> You should think, that when people have been meditating 20, 30 + years, they 
> would know how to meditate, that meditation what have let to something, that 
> they would know hoe to get into deeper inner states, and would be guided from 
> within. But no, that's a no no, they still have to follow a script, still 
> need to get checkings and so on.
> 
> When I was still in the movement, I had heard that Maharishi asked people, 
> don't you think that all this routine, all this program you are following, is 
> like a prison? At the time, I didn't understand, because I loved the program. 
> Now I understand what he had meant. I think that Maharishi as deeply aware of 
> all these issues, he probably assumed, that people, as they advanced would be 
> led on from within, so he only wanted to kick-start them and make sure that 
> they got a good meditation routine. But then again, there are scriptures 
> warn, that meditation itself is a hindrance to enlightenment, as it is of 
> course also an attachment. (Ashtavakra Gita for example)
> 
> > ..not awareness of awareness itself which is rather
> > nice and the sole (soul) reason I still do TM. Sure I get the
> > "back from somewhere" awareness too and am happy if it contributes 
> > something nice but silent inner wakefulness and knowing about it
> > seems like a better deal.
> 
> Right. For me there is no decision to be made. There is simply no choice. It 
> is not, for me, an automated meditation, like TM, where an automatic flow is 
> kind of initiated, and then followed, but where there is still a choice, like 
> the choice, pick up the mantra. It is completely automatic from within, where 
> I just witness the flow of attention.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[sparaig]

You are correct, in my opinion, that the various services are meant to be a 
revenue stream. Peter McWilliams sent me an email before he died, describing a 
conversation he had with MMY 35+ years ago about how the TM Movement's growth 
was unsustainable. He too thought that these services were meant to compensate 
for declining revenue from initiations.


That said, I think you are ignoring several things in your analysis:

The primary focus of the TM Organization as directed by MMY was on three things:

1) ensure some kind of survival of the TM Organization (and its projects) after 
MMY died;

2) create permanent groups of TM-Sidhas to meditate in groups for world peace;

3) raise money to support goals one and two.


How would YOU go about achieving these goals, Barry?

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > When it comes to pundits, it's the same thing. Deal
> > > with the wrong kind, and it might look as if you were
> > > hiring people to chant and make offerings to Hindu
> > > gods and goddesses to achieve the things you want in
> > > life. Can't have that. Gotta hire only Maharishi-
> > > approved pundits, so that it's all "scientific,"
> > > and you can't be accused of doing something religious.
> > 
> > I wonder what he problem is really, they might even be 
> > scared of Buck bringing negative vibes into the dome,
> > little realising they are doing plenty of that. But it
> > might be just a financial thing - the TMO is in deep
> > financial shit. Or it might be they sincerely believe
> > their stuff is better! 
> 
> I was obviously being facetious above, but I suspect
> this is the real reason. And it's not that they actually
> believe that their stuff is better; it's that they don't
> want the example of someone benefiting from something
> that "wasn't manufactured here" available to other TMers.
> 
> It seems to me merely an extension of the same demon-
> ization of techniques of meditation and self discovery
> that they see as "competitors" that has been going on
> with the TMO since Day One. You don't want anyone to
> even *consider* a "competing" technique or service, 
> much less benefit from one and tell other meditators
> about it. 
> 
> The myth has always been "If Maharishi didn't teach it,
> it can't possibly be of any use, and it might be BAD."
> 
> > Whatevr the reason this inquisition
> > is outrageous. I would have been over the horizon in 
> > seconds. But then I was the one telling them jyotish was
> > a bunch of superstitious crap when they suggested I stay
> > inside and don't watch a solar eclipse. I Told them I'm not 
> > scared of shadows and that was the end of it (bar a lecture
> > on supreme knowledge as revealed by Marshy.) I watched the
> > eclipse, they cowered in their offices. But there was no
> > banning me from the flying room, they must have stepped
> > up the paranoia since those days.
> 
> To me it's just another hallmark of a spiritual movement
> in decline. They have realized that they cannot effec-
> tively expand their numbers by appealing to the public;
> they have both priced themselves out of that market and
> "PR'd" themselves out of it with their shenanigans. So
> the only way to bring in "new meditators" is by getting
> someone else to pay for large-scale programs, such as for
> schools or the military or the "underprivileged." 
> 
> That said, the flip side of that coin is to keep the
> existing meditators from leaving. This policy seems to
> be an implementation of that, by trying to prevent them
> from learning that there are other options -- cheaper
> and possibly more effective options -- than the TMO
> offers. Ignorance is not only bliss, it's stasis. How
> ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen
> Par-eee? Simple. Never let them see (or even hear about)
> Par-eee.
> 
> 
> > > As for Jyotish:
> > > 
> > > ['I sense that someone is about to swindle you.' 'Wow, 
> > > thanks for the warning! How much do I owe you?' by White, Andy]
> > 
> > Quite.
> 
> Indeed. Love this cartoon. It really captures the 
> essence of it, both from the seller's side, and the
> buyer's side.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation

[Lawson English]

Yoohoo "Transcendendal" Meditation...

Eventually the mantra transcends out of existence, or rather,  the 
three-in-one rishi-devata-chhandas during meditation converges into a 
single point whose only quality is observerness.



L

On 7/24/12 8:27 AM, Vaj wrote:


On Jul 24, 2012, at 11:14 AM, sparaig wrote:


But PC is not awareness OF awareness.

PC is just awareness by Itself.



Not if it's a witness-consciousness.

Dualistic meditations, which rely on objects, will create a 
witness-consciousness, not a nondual consciousness. That's why Advaita 
Vedanta draws a distinction between samadhi type states and nondual 
contemplation. You're confusing the two, a fundamental error, and 
therefore a wrong View of the reality you're attempting to describe.



--
Squeak from the very start (introduction to Squeak and Pharo Smalltalk for the 
(almost) complete and compleate beginner).
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6601A198DF14788D&feature=view_all

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Guru Dev" and Remote Viewing

[merudanda]

Yes .In November of 1996, he was a guest on the Art Bell Show, a
late-night radio show that features interviews with people who espouse a
variety of psychic experiences. That evening the question arose of a
photograph of the recently discovered Hale-Bopp comet. The photo seemed
to show a white circular object following the comet. Brown stated
emphatically that the object was a spacecraft.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vision_remota/esp_visionremota_28a.htm

As it turned out, Brown's statement found its way to a small group of
believers in San Diego, California, who were looking for a spaceship to
arrive and carry them away from Earth. Their belief in his statement
became one factor leading to the mass suicide of the Heaven's Gate group
at the spring equinox.
Brown was, of course, in no way responsible for the suicide; his
statement just happened to fit into their worldview.Brown's opinions 
only inadvertently led to his involvement in this unfortunate affair in
1997.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> I've been thinking the last few days about digging out a book by a
guest
> on Art Bell's show during the 1990s.  I recall that he was involved in
> TM and that he claimed to have contacted "Guru Dev" or Brahmananda
> Saraswati via remote viewiong.  Well that book is stuck away in a mess
> that will take a safari to retrieve so since Google is my friend I did
a
> little searching.  Not only is the Art Bell guest's web site available
> but he has the book there for a free download.  The guy is Courtney
> Brown (maybe some of you listened to him on Bell's show) and here is
the
> page with his book download.
>
> http://www.courtneybrown.com/publications/cosmic.html
>
> Have fun!
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hot weather in Fairfield

[Share Long]

Sending forgiveness and unconditional love (btw, this is me teasing you all AND 
laughing at myself)

such as I can evoke in my fried and melted self, to all bd 
weather everywhere (-:
Think what?  Ah yes, don't think global warming, silly devas putting that in 
one place, HERE
OTO hot hand, don't think rain raga either, as other silly devas putting THAT 
in one place THERE
silly devas I love and forgive you 

but sorry, both seem to be a bit conditional
no doubt my samskaras humming along nicely on very deep level
will you love and forgive me for calling you silly and dolt (see below)?

thinking global what?  BALANCE, dolt, BALANCE

And no Buck, not only TM Domers create global balance, g!
you were joking, right?  ha ha

all this may be that
but obviously
all here is not there
PS:

will do some EFT tapping for sunshine there and cooling rain there
hope that's not against anyone's religion, etc.
I'm sorry pls forgive me thank you I love u




 From: merudanda 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 5:37 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hot weather in Fairfield
 

  
My dearest Alexander our Great 
humble humble i=we beg you
  
PLEASE STOP IT 
 i beg you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2_ccQQ4FJE

http://www.rt.com/news/japan-rains-evacuation-floods-031/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REDeqEx0f38
We  wade  here through  flooded streets caused by your rain ragas!-- or at 
least use a windows PC its not so reliable --and it  will let's some  much 
needed  sunshine in ---
  in the midst of a new  Thunder and Lightning and Storm and Rain i push the 
send button




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wayback71@ wrote:
> >
> > I just checked and the forecast if for 104 degrees iin Ffld for
> > Wednesday.  Things are changing and no the focus is on mediating
> > the now inevitable climate changes. Thank goodness for scientists
> > who are coming up with the ideas to counteract, hopefully, the
> > changes.
> 
> Well, I'm doing my part by having the MacBook play the rain raga 24 hours a 
> day.
>

 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hot weather in Fairfield

[merudanda]

My dearest Alexander our Great
humble humble i=we beg you

PLEASE STOP IT
  i beg you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2_ccQQ4FJE

http://www.rt.com/news/japan-rains-evacuation-floods-031/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REDeqEx0f38
We  wade  here through  flooded streets caused by your rain ragas!-- or
at least use a windows PC its not so reliable --and it  will let's some 
much needed  sunshine in --- [:D]
   in the midst of a new  Thunder and Lightning and Storm and Rain i push
the send button



 
[http://en.tengrinews.kz/userdata/news_en/news_11507/thumb_b/photo_18556\
.jpg]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
 wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wayback71@ wrote:
> >
> > I just checked and the forecast if for 104 degrees iin Ffld for
> > Wednesday.  Things are changing and no the focus is on mediating
> > the now inevitable climate changes. Thank goodness for scientists
> > who are coming up with the ideas to counteract, hopefully, the
> > changes.
>
> Well, I'm doing my part by having the MacBook play the rain raga 24
hours a day.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation

[iranitea]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>

> > One thing that I'll mention is that the research on pure consciousness 
> > shows that people's brains have returned to a more normal mode of 
> > functioning by the time they actually "notice" PC. In a very real sense, PC 
> > cannot be held onto or indulged in or even enjoyed. By the time you notice 
> > it, it's been gone for quite a while, relatively speaking. 
> 
> None of this seems remotely right to me. This would mean PC is unconciousness 
> ..

Bingo. It is hard to tell what people are referring to when they talk of their 
own experience of transcendence. There is qualia, which restricts our knowledge 
of what others experience. We can only go by the indications they give, how 
they describe their states, and compare notes, with what we experience or have 
experienced once. 

In this sense, what you describe, and what I used to call transcendence, as 
defined by the TM, it was a momentary going into something, some kind of blank, 
which is noticed, when you go out of it. It is nice, but I wouldn't call it 
transcendence any more today. It's just a surrogate, Maharishi himself called 
it a hazy experience of transcendence, not the 'real' experience, but, marketer 
as he was, said, that he didn't want to call TM 'Hazy Transcendental 
Meditation', how would that sound.

So, Maharishi was fully aware of this. But it's the trick that ties people to 
the thing. We all know that he tricked us with the flying siddhis, he tricked 
us with the time it takes to  CC, but his greatest trick was this transcendence 
thing. 

Defining transcendence in this way, as the momentary loss of mantra without 
thought, this slipping in and out of something, being aware in the sense of 
noticing it, only AFTER the thing happens. And saying this can only be achieved 
through a procedure he defines as effortless.  

That's what keeps people glued to the concept, that's square one of the belief 
system.

Basically, as I see it today, this procedure,with the inward  and the outward 
strokes of meditation, happens all WITHIN the mind. You never break out of 
this, 'transcendence' here is like glued to a rubber-band, you are always 
within the mind, following a script. Do this when that happens, and when 
something else happens, do that. Ideal for people who have some kind of 
obsessive disorder.

You should think, that when people have been meditating 20, 30 + years, they 
would know how to meditate, that meditation what have let to something, that 
they would know hoe to get into deeper inner states, and would be guided from 
within. But no, that's a no no, they still have to follow a script, still need 
to get checkings and so on.

When I was still in the movement, I had heard that Maharishi asked people, 
don't you think that all this routine, all this program you are following, is 
like a prison? At the time, I didn't understand, because I loved the program. 
Now I understand what he had meant. I think that Maharishi as deeply aware of 
all these issues, he probably assumed, that people, as they advanced would be 
led on from within, so he only wanted to kick-start them and make sure that 
they got a good meditation routine. But then again, there are scriptures warn, 
that meditation itself is a hindrance to enlightenment, as it is of course also 
an attachment. (Ashtavakra Gita for example)

> ..not awareness of awareness itself which is rather
> nice and the sole (soul) reason I still do TM. Sure I get the
> "back from somewhere" awareness too and am happy if it contributes something 
> nice but silent inner wakefulness and knowing about it
> seems like a better deal.

Right. For me there is no decision to be made. There is simply no choice. It is 
not, for me, an automated meditation, like TM, where an automatic flow is kind 
of initiated, and then followed, but where there is still a choice, like the 
choice, pick up the mantra. It is completely automatic from within, where I 
just witness the flow of attention.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[Buck]

Yep, you got it.  These clause about using non-TM movement religious services 
exclusively evidently were put in the guidelines as part of a business plan.  
It appeared in the Dome admission guidelines as part of a pitch to support the 
movement pundits exclusively.  It got toned down a little towards saying it is 
okay to go to other services but not host or organize them now. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > When it comes to pundits, it's the same thing. Deal
> > > with the wrong kind, and it might look as if you were
> > > hiring people to chant and make offerings to Hindu
> > > gods and goddesses to achieve the things you want in
> > > life. Can't have that. Gotta hire only Maharishi-
> > > approved pundits, so that it's all "scientific,"
> > > and you can't be accused of doing something religious.
> > 
> > I wonder what he problem is really, they might even be 
> > scared of Buck bringing negative vibes into the dome,
> > little realising they are doing plenty of that. But it
> > might be just a financial thing - the TMO is in deep
> > financial shit. Or it might be they sincerely believe
> > their stuff is better! 
> 
> I was obviously being facetious above, but I suspect
> this is the real reason. And it's not that they actually
> believe that their stuff is better; it's that they don't
> want the example of someone benefiting from something
> that "wasn't manufactured here" available to other TMers.
> 
> It seems to me merely an extension of the same demon-
> ization of techniques of meditation and self discovery
> that they see as "competitors" that has been going on
> with the TMO since Day One. You don't want anyone to
> even *consider* a "competing" technique or service, 
> much less benefit from one and tell other meditators
> about it. 
> 
> The myth has always been "If Maharishi didn't teach it,
> it can't possibly be of any use, and it might be BAD."
> 
> > Whatevr the reason this inquisition
> > is outrageous. I would have been over the horizon in 
> > seconds. But then I was the one telling them jyotish was
> > a bunch of superstitious crap when they suggested I stay
> > inside and don't watch a solar eclipse. I Told them I'm not 
> > scared of shadows and that was the end of it (bar a lecture
> > on supreme knowledge as revealed by Marshy.) I watched the
> > eclipse, they cowered in their offices. But there was no
> > banning me from the flying room, they must have stepped
> > up the paranoia since those days.
> 
> To me it's just another hallmark of a spiritual movement
> in decline. They have realized that they cannot effec-
> tively expand their numbers by appealing to the public;
> they have both priced themselves out of that market and
> "PR'd" themselves out of it with their shenanigans. So
> the only way to bring in "new meditators" is by getting
> someone else to pay for large-scale programs, such as for
> schools or the military or the "underprivileged." 
> 
> That said, the flip side of that coin is to keep the
> existing meditators from leaving. This policy seems to
> be an implementation of that, by trying to prevent them
> from learning that there are other options -- cheaper
> and possibly more effective options -- than the TMO
> offers. Ignorance is not only bliss, it's stasis. How
> ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen
> Par-eee? Simple. Never let them see (or even hear about)
> Par-eee.
> 
> 
> > > As for Jyotish:
> > > 
> > > ['I sense that someone is about to swindle you.' 'Wow, 
> > > thanks for the warning! How much do I owe you?' by White, Andy]
> > 
> > Quite.
> 
> Indeed. Love this cartoon. It really captures the 
> essence of it, both from the seller's side, and the
> buyer's side.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > When it comes to pundits, it's the same thing. Deal
> > with the wrong kind, and it might look as if you were
> > hiring people to chant and make offerings to Hindu
> > gods and goddesses to achieve the things you want in
> > life. Can't have that. Gotta hire only Maharishi-
> > approved pundits, so that it's all "scientific,"
> > and you can't be accused of doing something religious.
> 
> I wonder what he problem is really, they might even be 
> scared of Buck bringing negative vibes into the dome,
> little realising they are doing plenty of that. But it
> might be just a financial thing - the TMO is in deep
> financial shit. Or it might be they sincerely believe
> their stuff is better! 

I was obviously being facetious above, but I suspect
this is the real reason. And it's not that they actually
believe that their stuff is better; it's that they don't
want the example of someone benefiting from something
that "wasn't manufactured here" available to other TMers.

It seems to me merely an extension of the same demon-
ization of techniques of meditation and self discovery
that they see as "competitors" that has been going on
with the TMO since Day One. You don't want anyone to
even *consider* a "competing" technique or service, 
much less benefit from one and tell other meditators
about it. 

The myth has always been "If Maharishi didn't teach it,
it can't possibly be of any use, and it might be BAD."

> Whatevr the reason this inquisition
> is outrageous. I would have been over the horizon in 
> seconds. But then I was the one telling them jyotish was
> a bunch of superstitious crap when they suggested I stay
> inside and don't watch a solar eclipse. I Told them I'm not 
> scared of shadows and that was the end of it (bar a lecture
> on supreme knowledge as revealed by Marshy.) I watched the
> eclipse, they cowered in their offices. But there was no
> banning me from the flying room, they must have stepped
> up the paranoia since those days.

To me it's just another hallmark of a spiritual movement
in decline. They have realized that they cannot effec-
tively expand their numbers by appealing to the public;
they have both priced themselves out of that market and
"PR'd" themselves out of it with their shenanigans. So
the only way to bring in "new meditators" is by getting
someone else to pay for large-scale programs, such as for
schools or the military or the "underprivileged." 

That said, the flip side of that coin is to keep the
existing meditators from leaving. This policy seems to
be an implementation of that, by trying to prevent them
from learning that there are other options -- cheaper
and possibly more effective options -- than the TMO
offers. Ignorance is not only bliss, it's stasis. How
ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen
Par-eee? Simple. Never let them see (or even hear about)
Par-eee.


> > As for Jyotish:
> > 
> > ['I sense that someone is about to swindle you.' 'Wow, 
> > thanks for the warning! How much do I owe you?' by White, Andy]
> 
> Quite.

Indeed. Love this cartoon. It really captures the 
essence of it, both from the seller's side, and the
buyer's side.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[Buck]

Whittling the Dome guidelines

Those parts in the Dome admission guideline about pundits, joytish and yagyas 
really don't need to be there.  They don't have much to do with running the 
meditation programs in the Domes.  There evidently is something else going on 
in those paragraphs.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> >
> > Buck, do you ever ask yourself why you "buck" the system?  
> > 
> >
> 
> Bucking?  Naw, I'm an Iowan, an old practicing mediator, and a pretty 
> reasonable person.  By experience and the science I'd like to see the numbers 
> do well in the Domes.  I'm quite hope full and I'd like to see those people 
> facilitate the Dome numbers better.  I'm pretty simple.  They've got old 
> problems that they've created with the Dome numbers with those guidelines and 
> the meditating community.  Raja Hagelin has created a lot of process inside 
> to help run things since Maharishi's death.  Things could change.  I got 
> time.  
> -Buck 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Buck 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:19 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > Om, waht oh.  I may lose my Dome badge, again.  I got called in by the 
> > chief inspector the other day over my religious activities with non-TM 
> > pundits.  If it goes badly they'll take my Dome badge away, again.  It is 
> > still in the balance but it is an interesting thing; they have these 
> > anti-religious practices paragraphs in the Dome meditation admission 
> > guidelines that are a snare.  The paragraphs are part of a business plan to 
> > coerce people to use TM movement joytish astrology and yagya services more 
> > exclusively by using the dome admission as a punishment.  I had an hour 
> > long interview in the Peace Palace the other day.  Some committee that I'll 
> > not see will adjudicate my case.  "We have something in our files, tell us 
> > about it."
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Om, waht oh.  I may lose my Dome badge, again.  I got
> > > called in by the chief inspector the other day over my
> > > religious activities with non-TM pundits.  If it goes
> > > badly they'll take my Dome badge away, again.  It is
> > > still in the balance but it is an interesting thing;
> > > they have these anti-religious practices paragraphs
> > > in the Dome meditation admission guidelines that are
> > > a snare.  The paragraphs are part of a business plan
> > > to coerce people to use TM movement joytish astrology
> > > and yagya services more exclusively by using the dome
> > > admission as a punishment.  I had an hour long interview
> > > in the Peace Palace the other day.  Some committee that
> > > I'll not see will adjudicate my case.  "We have
> > > something in our files, tell us about it."
> >
> > How do the TM inspectors [had a good laugh typing that] find out
> > you are using non-approved "services?" Is there a supergrass in
> > FF? And what the hell business do you think it is of theirs?
> >
> > Hope you tell them to stuff their stupid dome badge. Really, what
> > is the point of all this if this is the sort of "positivity" that
> > TM creates?
> 
> It's like the injunction against ever wearing jeans
> in public if you were a TM initiator back in the day.
> You had to wear your suit at all times or someone
> might have gotten the idea that you were some kind
> of hippie.

I know someone who was asked to get his hair cut when
he was on an SCI course! Not even doing something that
other people might even see. He refused and got a lower
mark because he wasn't respecting Marshy's wishes (even
though it wasn't him who asked, but these edicts come
from somewhere I guess)
 
> When it comes to pundits, it's the same thing. Deal
> with the wrong kind, and it might look as if you were
> hiring people to chant and make offerings to Hindu
> gods and goddesses to achieve the things you want in
> life. Can't have that. Gotta hire only Maharishi-
> approved pundits, so that it's all "scientific,"
> and you can't be accused of doing something religious.

I wonder what he problem is really, they might even be 
scared of Buck bringing negative vibes into the dome,
little realising they are doing plenty of that. But it
might be just a financial thing - the TMO is in deep
financial shit. Or it might be they sincerely believe
their stuff is better! Whatevr the reason this inquisition
is outrageous. I would have been over the horizon in 
seconds. But then I was the one telling them jyotish was
a bunch of superstitious crap when they suggested I stay
inside and don't watch a solar eclipse. I Told them I'm not 
scared of shadows and that was the end of it (bar a lecture
on supreme knowledge as revealed by Marshy.) I watched the
eclipse, they cowered in their offices. But there was no
banning me from the flying room, they must have stepped
up the paranoia since those days.
 


> As for Jyotish:
> 
> 
>   ['I sense that someone is about to swindle you.' 'Wow, thanks for the
> warning! How much do I owe you?' by White, Andy]

Quite.