[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Religion "should go hand in hand". MMY
BillyG wrote: > TM is Yoga-lite for modernity... > "For those well versed in the Vedaanta the world is like a city of Gaandharvas, an illusion." - Guadapada
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Religion "should go hand in hand". MMY
You talk about the "benefits of religion".?? More blood has flown in the name of religion than all of Hitler's concentration camps. There is difference between moral guidelines and dogmatic beliefs --- On Fri, 7/10/09, BillyG. wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Religion "should go hand in hand". MMY Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 8:44 AM MMY's implication is that you need both!! "The rituals of the various Religions represent the body, and the practice of directly experiencing Being represents the Spirit. Both are necessary and should go hand in hand. One will not survive without the other." MMY SOB page 256 Unfortunately, many folks practicing TM are left without the benefits of Religion because the TMorg does not teach that one should practice their Religion WITH TM, in fact, most TM'ers practice TM in lieu of Religion, missing some of the important guidelines only Religion can provide! Believe me, sooner or later TM will be full blown Religion! I already acknowledge that, and anyone with half a brain would realize that too. Basically TM is a Religious Science!
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Religion "should go hand in hand". MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason wrote: > > Billy, Maharishi has fooled you. The rituals of all religions are > nonsense and can't take you to E > > Ask guyfawks what would happen if we go back to this full blown > archaic vedic culture. MMY's implication is that you need both!! "The rituals of the various Religions represent the body, and the practice of directly experiencing Being represents the Spirit. Both are necessary and should go hand in hand. One will not survive without the other." MMY SOB page 256 Unfortunately, many folks practicing TM are left without the benefits of Religion because the TMorg does not teach that one should practice their Religion WITH TM, in fact, most TM'ers practice TM in lieu of Religion, missing some of the important guidelines only Religion can provide! Believe me, sooner or later TM will be full blown Religion! I already acknowledge that, and anyone with half a brain would realize that too. Basically TM is a Religious Science!
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Religion "should go hand in hand". MMY
Billy, Maharishi has fooled you. The rituals of all religions are nonsense and can't take you to E Ask guyfawks what would happen if we go back to this full blown archaic vedic culture. --- On Fri, 7/10/09, BillyG. wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Religion "should go hand in hand". MMY Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 7:57 AM TM is Yoga-lite for modernity, eventually though, it will be full blown neo-hinduism, or Vedic Culture or whatever you want to call it. Originally it was taught in the context of Religion, the eternal Religion of the Vedas, Sanatana Dharma. MMY is taking us in baby steps in that direction... that's fine with me. Too bad none of the Rajas are practicing Religion .or, are they? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Religion "should go hand in hand". MMY
TM is Yoga-lite for modernity, eventually though, it will be full blown neo-hinduism, or Vedic Culture or whatever you want to call it. Originally it was taught in the context of Religion, the eternal Religion of the Vedas, Sanatana Dharma. MMY is taking us in baby steps in that direction...that's fine with me. Too bad none of the Rajas are practicing Religion.or, are they? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason wrote: > > This is a classic MMY dumbing down the teaching to appeal to > westerners. > > Rituals of all religions are Shit and can't take you anywhere. > > > --- On Fri, 7/10/09, BillyG. wrote: > Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM and Religion "should go hand in hand". MMY > Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 6:34 AM > > > "The rituals of the various Religions represent the body, and the practice of > directly experiencing Being represents the Spirit. Both are necessary and > should go hand in hand. One will not survive without the other." MMY SOB page > 256 > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Religion "should go hand in hand". MMY
This is a classic MMY dumbing down the teaching to appeal to westerners. Rituals of all religions are Shit and can't take you anywhere. --- On Fri, 7/10/09, BillyG. wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM and Religion "should go hand in hand". MMY Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 6:34 AM "The rituals of the various Religions represent the body, and the practice of directly experiencing Being represents the Spirit. Both are necessary and should go hand in hand. One will not survive without the other." MMY SOB page 256
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" w > > No wonder your > > > > > music "works". You have a gift for getting to the essence. > > > > > > Ever get to the west coast? > > > > We should hang. > > > > What a brilliant idea ! :-) > > That was wickedly funny Nabby, nice one! > > It is also a useful grim reminder that opposing spiritual beliefs > often reveals a desire to silence critics at any cost. > > > > > Jai Guru Dev. No need to worry about this, I understand it is being taken care of. The Tru-Apostles of Maharishi meet in committee for public safety every Friday after lunch. To join in the Apostle's meeting, you need to know the hand-shake & submit your username and password for Fairfieldlife in verification at the door. I am told that a current dome program badge may not get you in to the meeting without the hand-shake and your username & password to Fairfieldlife for verification. The Vigilantes for the Age of Enlightenment committee of the Inquisition then meets after that. Reformation of the old TMmovement seems at hand. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
Here's some FairFieldLife party-hearty entertainment ideas: Have Turq and Judy dress up in those Sumo wrestler, hugely padded, puffy suits, and have a contest. I'd pay for a front row seat. Smart money's on Judy, methinks. We could get Off to spike our fruit punch with his meds. We could gang tackle Richard, make him wear a George Bush Halloween mask, and then group tickle him until he pukes. Shemp might be roped into a barber's chair and given the real Shemp's haircut. Kirk could cook us up a mess-o-blackened shrimp -- with shrooms. Marek can bring some potted plants for decorating the banquet tables. I'll bring three Trikkes -- and indemnification forms. Dick Mays can sing "Massa's in de col col grave" with Curtis accompanying on a 12 string. Lurk is the natural choice for Emcee. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ever get to the west coast? We should hang." > > > > > > > > This must happen. Please email me some digits to we can talk. > > > > > > > > Why don't you both come to the Midwest and we'll all hang. > > > > > > > We should hang. > > > > > > What a brilliant idea ! :-) > > > > > > > > > O'boy... this can get nasty. > > > > > > > yes, if you don't hang together you'll hang one at a time. > > > > > > Come to Fairfield and, let us host you. > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev, > > > > -The Committee of Vigilantes for the Age of Enlightenment > > Dear TCOVFTAOE, > Seems like some of the top-of-the-list people are going. If they can > muster some booze&babes they could easily attract Turq also. I'll > donate a SBAL if Vaj goes. He admitted some time ago he never read > it, which makes perfect sense given the misconceptions he has about > TM. After the ceremony perhaps it could be donated to MSAE ? >
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" w > No wonder your > > > music "works". You have a gift for getting to the essence. > > > > Ever get to the west coast? > > We should hang. > > What a brilliant idea ! :-) That was wickedly funny Nabby, nice one! It is also a useful grim reminder that opposing spiritual beliefs often reveals a desire to silence critics at any cost. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ever get to the west coast? We should hang." > > > > > > This must happen. Please email me some digits to we can talk. > > > > > > Why don't you both come to the Midwest and we'll all hang. > > > > We should hang. > > > > What a brilliant idea ! :-) > > > > > > O'boy... this can get nasty. > > > > yes, if you don't hang together you'll hang one at a time. > > > Come to Fairfield and, let us host you. > > > Jai Guru Dev, > > -The Committee of Vigilantes for the Age of Enlightenment Dear TCOVFTAOE, Seems like some of the top-of-the-list people are going. If they can muster some booze&babes they could easily attract Turq also. I'll donate a SBAL if Vaj goes. He admitted some time ago he never read it, which makes perfect sense given the misconceptions he has about TM. After the ceremony perhaps it could be donated to MSAE ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
> "Ever get to the west coast? We should hang." > > This must happen. Please email me some digits to we can talk. > > Why don't you both come to the Midwest and we'll all hang. Make it on the > first Friday of the month, especially a warm month, and you'll hit the Art > Walk, where the whole town turns out and meanders around the square. Another overdue trip Rick! Fairfield is really beautiful in the Spring. > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 2/12/2008 > 3:20 PM >
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
"dhamiltony2k5" wrote: "Come to Fairfield and, let us host you." Er, you meant "hoist," right? Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ever get to the west coast? We should hang." > > > > > > This must happen. Please email me some digits to we can talk. > > > > > > Why don't you both come to the Midwest and we'll all hang. > > > > We should hang. > > > > What a brilliant idea ! :-) > > > > > > O'boy... this can get nasty. > > > > yes, if you don't hang together you'll hang one at a time. > > > Come to Fairfield and, let us host you. > > > Jai Guru Dev, > > -The Committee of Vigilantes for the Age of Enlightenment >
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
I agree that mood making via religious-commandments, moral axioms, even daily prayers might have helped the TMO -- especially at this transition moment. Still though, the big allure of TM was that one didn't have to "work at it" to be a good happy personand religions, generally speaking, require a lot of time and effort to "make reality" for a practitioner. On the other hand, didn't the TMO institute TONS of moodmaking? Did we all get the message that we must force our minds to come up with rationalizations for the various jarring, goofyassed, creepy, and even illegal behaviors of the TMO's leaders? Maharishi: "Here, nearest trustable stooge, take this $10,000 in cash out of this country, hidden in your underwear, and don't get caught in customs." Stooge" "Maharishi is sooo perfect that he sees that this action is life-supporting and an exception to the rule of law. In fact, the law is evil in that it doesn't provide that my guru specifically is wise enough to determine these things." Like that. We all pretended ourselves into some rather odious compromises of our integrities. The first lecture is filled with assertions that our own experiences do not support, so right there we were required to moodmake IN PUBLIC. And now, if anything, try to find a TBer who isn't moodmaking about King Tony like a bride on her honeymoon night with Quazimodo (He's such a swinger! What hump?) Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's pretty clear to me now that if some of the rules of religion had > attended the TM technique many many followers of the Maharishi would now > still practice. For instance, if Maharishi had stressed - love they > neighbor, and - have faith. But alas such things were considered moods. > Instead Maharishi sought to reify the basic Hindu cosmoconception into the > Earth plane with all the caps and gowns forgetting that people don't believe > what they see, they believe what they feel. Most people function as based in > their moods. So a little positive mood making might have saved the momentum > of the Movement. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion > > > > > > > > "Ever get to the west coast? We should hang." > > > > This must happen. Please email me some digits to we can talk. > > > > Why don't you both come to the Midwest and we'll all hang. > We should hang. > > What a brilliant idea ! :-) > > > O'boy... this can get nasty. > yes, if you don't hang together you'll hang one at a time. Come to Fairfield and, let us host you. Jai Guru Dev, -The Committee of Vigilantes for the Age of Enlightenment
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
It's pretty clear to me now that if some of the rules of religion had attended the TM technique many many followers of the Maharishi would now still practice. For instance, if Maharishi had stressed - love they neighbor, and - have faith. But alas such things were considered moods. Instead Maharishi sought to reify the basic Hindu cosmoconception into the Earth plane with all the caps and gowns forgetting that people don't believe what they see, they believe what they feel. Most people function as based in their moods. So a little positive mood making might have saved the momentum of the Movement.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:17 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion > > > > "Ever get to the west coast? We should hang." > > This must happen. Please email me some digits to we can talk. > > Why don't you both come to the Midwest and we'll all hang. Make it on the > first Friday of the month, especially a warm month, and you'll hit the Art > Walk, where the whole town turns out and meanders around the square. > Count me in on this action. > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 2/12/2008 > 3:20 PM >
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" w > > > No wonder your music "works". You have a gift for > > > getting to the essence. > > > > > > Ever get to the west coast? > > > > > > We should hang. > > > > What a brilliant idea ! :-) > > > Ah, the sattva of the long-term TB TMer. > > Should we list this as another 'known effect' > of the TM mantras? :-) Yes, yes ! Wishing all well, to wherever they are going, certainly is a trait I see in longtime meditators. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" w > > No wonder your music "works". You have a gift for > > getting to the essence. > > > > Ever get to the west coast? > > > > We should hang. > > What a brilliant idea ! :-) Ah, the sattva of the long-term TB TMer. Should we list this as another 'known effect' of the TM mantras? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:17 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion > > > > "Ever get to the west coast? We should hang." > > This must happen. Please email me some digits to we can talk. > > Why don't you both come to the Midwest and we'll all hang. O'boy... this can get nasty.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w No wonder your > music "works". You have a gift for getting to the essence. > > Ever get to the west coast? We should hang. What a brilliant idea ! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > "Ever get to the west coast? We should hang." > > > > This must happen. Please email me some digits to we can talk. > > > Watch your e-mail. > Shit. I've lost your e-mail Write me Curtis! Now Rick has thrown an idea in there. Holy schmolly Fairfield? I've actually never been there. Grew up in the midwest, ran centers in the MW, but never wanted to return after moving to the left coast. Fairfield.h. What say you Curtis? Travel-wize I've got SE Asia looming in March and Germany/France in April. But a weekend + a few in FF in the early spring. Part-t!
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
Party! Who's coming? I'd be there if those two showed up. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:17 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion > > > > "Ever get to the west coast? We should hang." > > This must happen. Please email me some digits to we can talk. > > Why don't you both come to the Midwest and we'll all hang. Make it on the > first Friday of the month, especially a warm month, and you'll hit the Art > Walk, where the whole town turns out and meanders around the square. > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 2/12/2008 > 3:20 PM >
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Ever get to the west coast? We should hang." > > This must happen. Please email me some digits to we can talk. > Watch your e-mail.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:17 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion "Ever get to the west coast? We should hang." This must happen. Please email me some digits to we can talk. Why don’t you both come to the Midwest and we’ll all hang. Make it on the first Friday of the month, especially a warm month, and you’ll hit the Art Walk, where the whole town turns out and meanders around the square. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 2/12/2008 3:20 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
"your denial sounds pretty presumptuous to me Curtis..." Denial that religious people might feel this way about Maharishi's grand claim, or denial that you are Jim? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > "The key to the fulfillment of every religion is found in the > practice > > of transcendental meditation." > > > > "This meditation is no threat to the authority of priests or > > ministers. It is something which belongs to their religions but > which > > has been forgotten for many centuries." > > > > That's just super! Maharishi can come in and bring the key to the > > fulfillment of every religion. And the really SUPER thing is that > > your religion FORGOT this key for many centuries! Did ya know > that? > > (ya dumass) Your religion needs the key that Maharishi has to be > > fulfilled. No, really! > > > > Lucky religious people! And BTW all the Hindu gods we will be > doing > > rituals to as the fulfillment of your religion are not really gods > at > > all. Now are you gunna believe your lying eyes or what I'm tell'n > ya? > > > > See Maharishi is teaching the root and you are a branch. > > > > And people wonder why this didn't catch on like wildfire among > > religious people! A simple way to fix their broken superficial > > religion > > > > wait...this just in... > > > > Religious people don't view their religion as unfulfilled! They > don't > > know they need a Vedic infusion. They think their own scriptures > are > > better than Maharishi's scriptures. > > > > In this area Maharishi was the most presumptuous human I have ever > > come across. > > > your denial sounds pretty presumptuous to me Curtis... >
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
"Ever get to the west coast? We should hang." This must happen. Please email me some digits to we can talk. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > > "The key to the fulfillment of every religion is found in the practice > > of transcendental meditation." > > > > "This meditation is no threat to the authority of priests or > > ministers. It is something which belongs to their religions but which > > has been forgotten for many centuries." > > > > That's just super! Maharishi can come in and bring the key to the > > fulfillment of every religion. And the really SUPER thing is that > > your religion FORGOT this key for many centuries! Did ya know that? > > (ya dumass) Your religion needs the key that Maharishi has to be > > fulfilled. No, really! > > > > Lucky religious people! And BTW all the Hindu gods we will be doing > > rituals to as the fulfillment of your religion are not really gods at > > all. Now are you gunna believe your lying eyes or what I'm tell'n ya? > > > > See Maharishi is teaching the root and you are a branch. > > > > And people wonder why this didn't catch on like wildfire among > > religious people! A simple way to fix their broken superficial > > religion > > > > wait...this just in... > > > > Religious people don't view their religion as unfulfilled! They don't > > know they need a Vedic infusion. They think their own scriptures are > > better than Maharishi's scriptures. > > > > In this area Maharishi was the most presumptuous human I have ever > > come across. > > OK Curtis.you're back on first (who's on second?) with this brilliant summation. Brother > man, you have a true knack for cutting to the core and just nailing it! No wonder your > music "works". You have a gift for getting to the essence. > > Ever get to the west coast? We should hang. > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" > > wrote: > > > > > > I am going to throw one more thing out there, and then I am outtahere > > > until late tomorrow. There has been several discussions on TM and > > > religion over the past couple of days. There also has been discussions > > > about whether TM or other effortless meditation techniques were used > > > in the ancient world. > > > > > > Well, I recently pulled out my old smelly copy of The Science of Being > > > and the Art of Living, and here are some quotes of MMY in the section > > > on religion: > > > > > > "The inner light of religion is missing from religious teachings; this > > > is the case all over the world, with the result that peace and > > > happiness are absent from the lives of people and everywhere tensions > > > are increasing." > > > > > > "It is time that transcendental meditation is adopted in churches, > > > temples, mosques, and pagodas." > > > > > > "Here in a simple practice is the fulfillment of every religion. It > > > belongs to the spirit of every religion and has since been lost." > > > > > > "Unfortunately, religious teachers seem to have put the cart before > > > the horse. They advise man to behave righteously, teaching that > > > through right action he will gain purity and be able to realize God. > > > The right approach would be to offer a direct way of gaining > > > God-consciousness. Established in higher consciousness, man would > > > naturally behave righteously. Man behaves from his level of > > > consciousness. Therefore any teaching of right action without a means > > > of raising consciousness will always be ineffective. It is much easier > > > to raise man's consciousness than to get him to act righteously." > > > > > > "The key to the fulfillment of every religion is found in the practice > > > of transcendental meditation." > > > > > > "This meditation is no threat to the authority of priests or > > > ministers. It is something which belongs to their religions but which > > > has been forgotten for many centuries." > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "The key to the fulfillment of every religion is found in the practice > of transcendental meditation." > > "This meditation is no threat to the authority of priests or > ministers. It is something which belongs to their religions but which > has been forgotten for many centuries." > > That's just super! Maharishi can come in and bring the key to the > fulfillment of every religion. And the really SUPER thing is that > your religion FORGOT this key for many centuries! Did ya know that? > (ya dumass) Your religion needs the key that Maharishi has to be > fulfilled. No, really! > > Lucky religious people! And BTW all the Hindu gods we will be doing > rituals to as the fulfillment of your religion are not really gods at > all. Now are you gunna believe your lying eyes or what I'm tell'n ya? > > See Maharishi is teaching the root and you are a branch. > > And people wonder why this didn't catch on like wildfire among > religious people! A simple way to fix their broken superficial > religion > > wait...this just in... > > Religious people don't view their religion as unfulfilled! They don't > know they need a Vedic infusion. They think their own scriptures are > better than Maharishi's scriptures. > > In this area Maharishi was the most presumptuous human I have ever > come across. OK Curtis.you're back on first (who's on second?) with this brilliant summation. Brother man, you have a true knack for cutting to the core and just nailing it! No wonder your music "works". You have a gift for getting to the essence. Ever get to the west coast? We should hang. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" > wrote: > > > > I am going to throw one more thing out there, and then I am outtahere > > until late tomorrow. There has been several discussions on TM and > > religion over the past couple of days. There also has been discussions > > about whether TM or other effortless meditation techniques were used > > in the ancient world. > > > > Well, I recently pulled out my old smelly copy of The Science of Being > > and the Art of Living, and here are some quotes of MMY in the section > > on religion: > > > > "The inner light of religion is missing from religious teachings; this > > is the case all over the world, with the result that peace and > > happiness are absent from the lives of people and everywhere tensions > > are increasing." > > > > "It is time that transcendental meditation is adopted in churches, > > temples, mosques, and pagodas." > > > > "Here in a simple practice is the fulfillment of every religion. It > > belongs to the spirit of every religion and has since been lost." > > > > "Unfortunately, religious teachers seem to have put the cart before > > the horse. They advise man to behave righteously, teaching that > > through right action he will gain purity and be able to realize God. > > The right approach would be to offer a direct way of gaining > > God-consciousness. Established in higher consciousness, man would > > naturally behave righteously. Man behaves from his level of > > consciousness. Therefore any teaching of right action without a means > > of raising consciousness will always be ineffective. It is much easier > > to raise man's consciousness than to get him to act righteously." > > > > "The key to the fulfillment of every religion is found in the practice > > of transcendental meditation." > > > > "This meditation is no threat to the authority of priests or > > ministers. It is something which belongs to their religions but which > > has been forgotten for many centuries." > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "The key to the fulfillment of every religion is found in the practice > of transcendental meditation." > > "This meditation is no threat to the authority of priests or > ministers. It is something which belongs to their religions but which > has been forgotten for many centuries." > > That's just super! Maharishi can come in and bring the key to the > fulfillment of every religion. And the really SUPER thing is that > your religion FORGOT this key for many centuries! Did ya know that? > (ya dumass) Your religion needs the key that Maharishi has to be > fulfilled. No, really! > > Lucky religious people! And BTW all the Hindu gods we will be doing > rituals to as the fulfillment of your religion are not really gods at > all. Now are you gunna believe your lying eyes or what I'm tell'n ya? > > See Maharishi is teaching the root and you are a branch. > > And people wonder why this didn't catch on like wildfire among > religious people! A simple way to fix their broken superficial > religion > > wait...this just in... > > Religious people don't view their religion as unfulfilled! They don't > know they need a Vedic infusion. They think their own scriptures are > better than Maharishi's scriptures. > > In this area Maharishi was the most presumptuous human I have ever > come across. > your denial sounds pretty presumptuous to me Curtis...
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and religion
"The key to the fulfillment of every religion is found in the practice of transcendental meditation." "This meditation is no threat to the authority of priests or ministers. It is something which belongs to their religions but which has been forgotten for many centuries." That's just super! Maharishi can come in and bring the key to the fulfillment of every religion. And the really SUPER thing is that your religion FORGOT this key for many centuries! Did ya know that? (ya dumass) Your religion needs the key that Maharishi has to be fulfilled. No, really! Lucky religious people! And BTW all the Hindu gods we will be doing rituals to as the fulfillment of your religion are not really gods at all. Now are you gunna believe your lying eyes or what I'm tell'n ya? See Maharishi is teaching the root and you are a branch. And people wonder why this didn't catch on like wildfire among religious people! A simple way to fix their broken superficial religion wait...this just in... Religious people don't view their religion as unfulfilled! They don't know they need a Vedic infusion. They think their own scriptures are better than Maharishi's scriptures. In this area Maharishi was the most presumptuous human I have ever come across. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am going to throw one more thing out there, and then I am outtahere > until late tomorrow. There has been several discussions on TM and > religion over the past couple of days. There also has been discussions > about whether TM or other effortless meditation techniques were used > in the ancient world. > > Well, I recently pulled out my old smelly copy of The Science of Being > and the Art of Living, and here are some quotes of MMY in the section > on religion: > > "The inner light of religion is missing from religious teachings; this > is the case all over the world, with the result that peace and > happiness are absent from the lives of people and everywhere tensions > are increasing." > > "It is time that transcendental meditation is adopted in churches, > temples, mosques, and pagodas." > > "Here in a simple practice is the fulfillment of every religion. It > belongs to the spirit of every religion and has since been lost." > > "Unfortunately, religious teachers seem to have put the cart before > the horse. They advise man to behave righteously, teaching that > through right action he will gain purity and be able to realize God. > The right approach would be to offer a direct way of gaining > God-consciousness. Established in higher consciousness, man would > naturally behave righteously. Man behaves from his level of > consciousness. Therefore any teaching of right action without a means > of raising consciousness will always be ineffective. It is much easier > to raise man's consciousness than to get him to act righteously." > > "The key to the fulfillment of every religion is found in the practice > of transcendental meditation." > > "This meditation is no threat to the authority of priests or > ministers. It is something which belongs to their religions but which > has been forgotten for many centuries." >
