[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 2/24/06 6:13:02 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  What are  you saying?  That Judy also molests young men 
  and gives them blow  jobs?
 
 Me? .Never!

She's not spry enough to catch the young ones 
any more...  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-24 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Perhaps a group of us could cruise some college bars and conduct 
field
  research. For the sake of science.
 



 We'll bring feste along and let some slinky blonde 23-yr old rock his
 world (with DISGUSTING anal and oral sex.) Though he will probably 
want
 to stay home and read some Oscar Wilde.


http://www.gradesaver.com/classicnotes/titles/earnest/fullsumm.html

That Wilde chose Bunbury as the name for double identities may 
prove telling. Wilde is one of history's more (in)famous homosexuals, 
convicted in 1895 for homosexual sodomy with Lord Alfred Douglas 
(Bosie). Prior to that, Wilde made greater attempts to hide his 
sexual orientation, even marrying. Is Wilde connecting his characters' 
need to Bunbury to his own dual identities‹his public, heterosexual 
one (he was married) and his private, homosexual one? Some critical 
attention has been given to the word Bunbury. Separating bun 
and bury, some read it as a description of male-to-male intercourse. 
Indeed, it has been confirmed that there are several allusions to 
London's homosexual world intended for Wilde's contemporary, 
homosexual audience. However, we can read a homosexual subtext into 
many of the lines now: Nothing will induce me to part with Bunbury. A 
man who marries without knowing Bunbury has a very tedious time of 
it. Aside from continuing the motif of intercourse with the 
word part, Algernon clearly relates the need for an alter ego to the 
oppressive sexuality of marriage. 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can't believe I have Shemp defending me against Judy!  But 
 I have, so keep up the good work, Shemp! I agree with many 
 of your points. You are right that to think a particular 
 homosexual practice disgusting does not of itself 
 constitute homophobia. I do know homosexuals, and I like 
 them. But if I find myself thinking about what they do, 
 I find it disgusting. Better to be honest about one's 
 feelings and reactions than pretend to something else. 

I've got a couple of gay friends in Chicago who
feel the same way about hetero sex. The mental
image of women naked and the details of womens' 
bodies make these guys nauseated, and the thought 
of men having to have sex with one of these 
creatures makes them physically ill.

So I wonder if Judy would be as quick to label
them heterophobes as she is to label others
homophobes.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-24 Thread foufou_fl
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@
wrote:

Johnny, I suspect from your comments that at times your reading or
understanding of some posts is weak or superficial And you react
strongly to your weak understanding, not the post itself -- as
  written.
   
   
   -
   -
   
   What more can I say, 
   I rest my case, and my weak understanding.
   
   JohnY 
  
  Perhaps you have difficulty distinguishing between a critique of an
  idea and a personal attack.
 
 Perhaps that's because my understanding is weak, or I'm overly
 attached, but of course your discourse is directed at the ideas 
 (focus on ideas not the person)


The above is a concept, a framework for understanding cognitive
processes. You may disagree that people do this. But that you appear
to take it as a personal attack, makes the point. 

  Some feel so attached and in ownership of
  their thoughts and ideas, that a criticism of the latter is equivalent
  to a personal attack. Having mixed that up, often their response, is
  not on the ideas being discussed, but to attack the poster. Again,
 one is seen to be the same as the other: ideas and the thinker.
  
 
 Inflame, attack, retreat into symatics and subtle parsing of
language. That has been the flow of your threads. 

While I have a different view, I will reflect on your comments. But
what are the  ideas and concepts that you are trying to discuss here?
Or is it all about your perception of my style? The idea that I am
presenting is that ideas are the thing. When posts focus on the
perceived short comings of the individual, what is  the point?

As I said, On the other hand, sometimes, some ideas expressed are so
weak and baseless that its hard not to laugh out loud and rib the
poster directly a bit. That is often not a personal attack, but an
attempt to get the poster to wake-up' to what they have posted,
re-examine it,and hopefully laugh at it too. It can be humorous way
to say hey, your idea is flawed-- logically or factually. Think about
it.  

  Oh, it's subtle use of the intellect to enlighten, sure it is 

More cognitive traps are blocking your reading. Where did I suggest
it's subtle use of the intellect to enlighten. But it ties directly
to the idea we are discussing. 

Its an interesting point that cognitive errors occur so often here on
FFL. Combining cognitive errors within a personality who cannot
distinguish between thoughts and thinker, between critiques of ideas
and personal attacks, is a formula for poor and ineffectual
communication. Thats my hypothesis, what is your opinion of that?
 
 
  Nothing could be further from the truth in my book. The quality of
  thoughts, I suggest, follows a normal distribution (aka bell
curve). A few brilliant ideas, a few imbecillic ones, and a lot
somewhere in  between. Just because one has an imbecillic thought
does not make the person an imbecile. Same with having a genius
thought. If we don't  catch our own imbecillic thoughts, feedback
from others on the quality  of the idea is helpful.
   
 
 And I should be thankful too. Gee, I guess I'm lucky to have your
 critique and counsel then.

I presented a concept.And your response ignores the concept and
focusses on some ego war in your mind. Which I guess  is your reponse
to my point that ideas should be the focus. You apparently disagree.
That apparently is your point.


  On the other hand, sometimes, some ideas expressed are so weak and
  baseless that its hard not to laugh out loud and rib the poster
  directly a bit. That is often not a personal attack, but an attempt to
  get the poster to wake-up' to what they have posted, re-examine
  it,and hopefully laugh at it too.
 
 
  
 If a laugh makes you feel better, feel free. 

You take a geneal point and inernalized it as a personal attack.
Youprovide no comment on the idea and concept itself. Which apparently
is your indirect way of saying you disagree. Point made above. Point
taken. 

 
I quess it's all worth it
 then. Quality entertainment for sure. 

Zero content on discussion of the ideas presented. Again my hypothesis
is that some people see critiques of their ideas as personal attacks,
in that their ideas are who they are. They respond, ignoring the
discussion of ideas, and attack the person presenting ideas or a
critique of their own. What do you think of this hypothesis. See any
examples of it here or other posts?
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
Bottom line for me in all of this is that I think
some people just like to LABEL others. Isn't that
pretty much what this discussion has been about?

Seems to me that a couple of people were bored
because there weren't any arguments going on, and
so the moment an excuse for one appeared, they
leaped on it, spewed out a label or two, and
then they were happy again, because the next
morning we've got four whole screenloads of
invective and argument on FFL.

I can't wait to hear, when I get back from this
weekend's vacation, how they label me for suggest-
ing this.  :-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  I can't believe I have Shemp defending me against Judy!  But 
  I have, so keep up the good work, Shemp! I agree with many 
  of your points. You are right that to think a particular 
  homosexual practice disgusting does not of itself 
  constitute homophobia. I do know homosexuals, and I like 
  them. But if I find myself thinking about what they do, 
  I find it disgusting. Better to be honest about one's 
  feelings and reactions than pretend to something else. 
 
 I've got a couple of gay friends in Chicago who
 feel the same way about hetero sex. The mental
 image of women naked and the details of womens' 
 bodies make these guys nauseated, and the thought 
 of men having to have sex with one of these 
 creatures makes them physically ill.
 
 So I wonder if Judy would be as quick to label
 them heterophobes as she is to label others
 homophobes.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-24 Thread foufou_fl
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bottom line for me in all of this is that I think
 some people just like to LABEL others. Isn't that
 pretty much what this discussion has been about?
 
 Seems to me that a couple of people were bored
 because there weren't any arguments going on, and
 so the moment an excuse for one appeared, they
 leaped on it, spewed out a label or two, and
 then they were happy again, because the next
 morning we've got four whole screenloads of
 invective and argument on FFL.

So if I get your point, it seems that you don't care for people who
are bored, argumentative, invective labelers.
Yea, I hate those damned labelers too.



 
 I can't wait to hear, when I get back from this
 weekend's vacation, how they label me for suggest-
 ing this.  :-)

An insightful genius. A man of towering intellect and grace. A
powerful lens illuminating all matter upon which it focuses.


Have a bonne vacance. But no anal or oral sex. No matter how hard she
pleads. You don't want to disgust Feste any more than he is already
disgusted.  
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   I can't believe I have Shemp defending me against Judy!  But 
   I have, so keep up the good work, Shemp! I agree with many 
   of your points. You are right that to think a particular 
   homosexual practice disgusting does not of itself 
   constitute homophobia. I do know homosexuals, and I like 
   them. But if I find myself thinking about what they do, 
   I find it disgusting. Better to be honest about one's 
   feelings and reactions than pretend to something else. 
  
  I've got a couple of gay friends in Chicago who
  feel the same way about hetero sex. The mental
  image of women naked and the details of womens' 
  bodies make these guys nauseated, and the thought 
  of men having to have sex with one of these 
  creatures makes them physically ill.
  
  So I wonder if Judy would be as quick to label
  them heterophobes as she is to label others
  homophobes.
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Bottom line for me in all of this is that I think
 some people just like to LABEL others. Isn't that
 pretty much what this discussion has been about?
 
 Seems to me that a couple of people were bored
 because there weren't any arguments going on, and
 so the moment an excuse for one appeared, they
 leaped on it, spewed out a label or two, and
 then they were happy again, because the next
 morning we've got four whole screenloads of
 invective and argument on FFL.
 
 I can't wait to hear, when I get back from this
 weekend's vacation, how they label me for suggest-
 ing this.  :-)

And just to stir the waters a bit before I leave
( insert evil laugh here ), has no one but me
noticed the relationship of the 'homophobe' thread
to the Amma/muslim/cartoon thread?

Essentially, feste *wrote a cartoon*, in words.
Segueing from comments about laws forbidding sex
with animals, he made a joke (admittedly, not a 
terribly good joke) about how cowboys having sex
with each other reminded him of cowboys having
sex with animals.

Bam! The shit (literally, in this case, probably
stirred up from all the anal sex talk) hits the
fan. The first thing that happens is a bunch of
people come rushing in to tell the cartoonist
what a low-vibe slime he is and to keep his big
mouth shut. Then these same politically-correct
dogma bullies start in on anyone who *defends*
the cartoonist's right to express themselves.
The defenders are as much 'homophobes' as the
cartoonist is.

In other words, I think we've got the Nightly
News being acted out here on FFL. The people 
calling others 'homophobes' are playing the 
Muslims who are trying to suppress the rights
of the cartoonists and control what the public
has the right to read in its newspapers. 

Argue THAT, suckas...   :-)  :-)  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-24 Thread foufou_fl
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Argue THAT, suckas...   :-)  :-)  :-)

Interesting in a discussion of homosexual acts, you call people
suckas.  Anything latent you want to discuss :)


 





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-23 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 2/22/06 3:33:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The two 
  that worry me are the laws from Montana andOklahoma. There must have been 
  a *reason* that suchlaws were created..."Where the men are men and 
  thesheep are nervous," and all that...

Yeah , kind of a Brokeback Mountain 
thing.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-23 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 2/22/06 3:33:39 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 The two  that worry me are the laws from Montana and
 Oklahoma. There must have been  a *reason* that such
 laws were created...Where the men are men and  the
 sheep are nervous, and all that...
 
 
 
 Yeah , kind of a Brokeback Mountain  thing.

There is nothing in Brokeback Mountain about men having sex with farm
animals.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-23 Thread feste37
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 2/22/06 3:33:39 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  The two  that worry me are the laws from Montana and
  Oklahoma. There must have been  a *reason* that such
  laws were created...Where the men are men and  the
  sheep are nervous, and all that...
  
  
  
  Yeah , kind of a Brokeback Mountain  thing.
 
 There is nothing in Brokeback Mountain about men having sex with farm
 animals.

No, they just looked like farm animals when they were doing it. 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
 j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
  

   In a message dated 2/22/06 3:33:39 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
   The two  that worry me are the laws from Montana and
   Oklahoma. There must have been  a *reason* that such
   laws were created...Where the men are men and  the
   sheep are nervous, and all that...
   
   Yeah , kind of a Brokeback Mountain  thing.
  
  There is nothing in Brokeback Mountain about men having sex with 
  farm animals.
 
 No, they just looked like farm animals when they were doing it.

Right, because everybody knows straight people
*never* do it that way.

Let's hear it for the missionary position!






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-22 Thread TurquoiseB
The two that worry me are the laws from Montana and
Oklahoma. There must have been a *reason* that such
laws were created...Where the men are men and the
sheep are nervous, and all that...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alabama – it is illegal for a driver to be blindfolded while 
 operating a vehicle. 
 Alaska – it is considered an offense to push a live moose out of a 
 moving airplane. 
 Arizona – any misdemeanor committed while wearing a red mask is 
 considered a felony. 
 Arizona – when being attacked by a criminal or burglar, you may 
only 
 protect yourself with the same weapon that the other person 
 possesses. 
 Augusta, Maine – to stroll down the street playing a violin is 
 against the law. 
 Baltimore, Maryland – it is illegal to take a lion to the movies. 
 Baltimore, Maryland – it is a violation of city code to sell 
chicks 
 or ducklings to a minor within one week of the Easter holiday. 
 Barber, North Carolina – fights between cats and dogs are 
 prohibited. 
 Bexley, Ohio – the installation and usage of slot machines in 
 outhouses is prohibited. 
 Boise, Idaho – residents may not fish from a giraffe's back. 
 Chicago, Illinois – it is forbidden to eat in a place that is on 
 fire. 
 Chico, California – detonating a nuclear device within the city 
 limits results in a $500 fine. 
 Everett, Washington – it is illegal to display a hypnotized or 
 allegedly hypnotized person in a store window. 
 Fargo, North Dakota – one may be jailed for wearing a hat while 
 dancing, or even for wearing a hat to a function where dancing is 
 taking place. 
 Georgia – it is illegal to use profanity in front of a dead body 
 which lies in a funeral home or in a coroner's office. 
 Klamath Falls, Oregon – it is illegal to walk down a sidewalk and 
 knock a snakes head off with your cane. 
 La Crosse, Wisconsin – you may not worry a squirrel. 
 Memphis, Tennessee – it is illegal to give any pie to fellow 
diners. 
 It is also illegal to take unfinished pie home. All pie must be 
 eaten on the premises. 
 Milwaukee, Wisconsin – it is against the law to play a flute and 
 drums on the streets to attract attention. 
 Minnesota – a person may not cross state lines with a duck atop 
his 
 head. 
 Montana – it is illegal to have a sheep in the cab of your truck 
 without a chaperone. 
 Nebraska – it is illegal for bar owners to sell beer unless they 
are 
 simultaneously brewing a kettle of soup. 
 New Hampshire – you cannot sell the clothes you are wearing to pay 
 off a gambling debt. 
 Oklahoma – it is illegal to have the hind legs of farm animals in 
 your boots. 
 Pennsylvania – ministers are forbidden from performing marriages 
 when either the bride or groom is drunk. 
 Rhode Island – any marriage where either of the parties is an 
idiot 
 or lunatic is null and void. 
 San Francisco, California – it is illegal to pile horse manure 
more 
 than six feet high on a street corner. 
 Seattle, Washington – you may not carry a concealed weapon that is 
 over six feet in length. 
 Tennessee – driving is not to be done while asleep. 
 Trout Creek, Utah – pharmacists may not sell gunpowder to cure 
 headaches. 
 Vermont – women must obtain written permission from their husbands 
 to wear false teeth. 
 Washington – it is mandatory for a motorist with criminal 
intentions 
 to stop at the city limits and telephone the chief of police as he 
 is entering the town. 
 West Virginia – roadkill may be taken home for supper. 
 Wilbur, Washington – you may not ride an ugly horse.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-22 Thread sparaig
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 Arizona – any misdemeanor committed while wearing a red mask is 
 considered a felony. 
 Arizona – when being attacked by a criminal or burglar, you may only 
 protect yourself with the same weapon that the other person 
 possesses. 

Never heard either of these before, though the first sounds plausible 
given the wild-west background. Certainly, in a state where it is legal 
to shoot someone who has broken into your house merely because they 
have forced themselves into your house and are still inside, the second 
doesn't make any sense at all (doesn't mean that it doesn't exist of 
course).






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws

2006-02-22 Thread TurquoiseB
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
 Arizona – when being attacked by a criminal or burglar, you 
 may only protect yourself with the same weapon that the other
 person possesses. 

One wonders what women are supposed to do if some
pervert starts waving his dick at them.  :-)







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