Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
So tell me how do you know that even you haven't spend many lifetimes pursuing enlightenment? Just sayin' that I've known a number of folks who have had good experiences even with TM and experienced CC some time ago. One of the problems on FFL is that people here seem to expect "saintly behavior" which any guru would chuckle about. When you attain "CC" you will have some samskaras in play which determine your personality. I've even heard Maharishi quoted on this. Recently I watched a documentary on Netflix about Steve Jobs. He believed he was enlightened and it is discussed in the documentary both from the perspective of Ram Dass's book "Be Here Now" where he also mentions what I've said above. And from the perspective of a Buddhist monk who Jobs visited to ask for help. The question was how could such a rash person be enlightened? So if you think that everyone that tried TM was a spiritual "noobie" I've got a slightly used bridge here in the SF Bay Area to sell you. :-D On 05/12/2016 05:01 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Well, if you think it's a hop, skip and a jump under other *paths* and masters,.. knock yourself out. I'm more inclined to believe that individuals *grow* into their paths, regardless of what they may be. That *growth* aspect involves time and maturity along the way. *From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 6:12 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting Read it and also Shiva Puranas, Srimad Bhagavatam, etc. etc. etc. With TM you'll hit a brick wall but other paths have more to offer. On 05/11/2016 03:10 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com <mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote: You might try reading the Gita again. *From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net> [FairfieldLife]" <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:19 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting It doesn't take many lifetimes, it takes a proper teacher who is qualified to teach it: an acharya. That said, some here may have been practicing sadhana for many lifetimes anyway. On 05/11/2016 09:04 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com <mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote: It may be *yoga lite*, but I doubt many westerners are really ready for the *yoga heavy*. Maharishi was offering something for the masses. It is as effective as you are willing to make it. One of the last instructions in the initial course, in order to gain CC is, *don't do anything you know is wrong*. Most people can't even *begin* to live up to that instruction. I was into the 5-8 year plan myself in the beginning but eventually realized that was just a hook in the jaw to reel you in, as are the rest of the *programs*. Real yoga requires many births with steady progress along the way. Best to learn to walk before you try running, patience Grasshopper! There is a story in one of the Upanishads in which a shishya asks his master how much longer to gain enlightenment.The master said "see the leaves of this great tree that we sit under? One life time for every leaf." The shishya, seeing tens of thousands of leaves, was elated that at last, the end to the endless cycle of birth and death was in view. Krishna said "only after many lives of this practice does one come to Me" Of course M had to weasel his way around that by saying it meant after many experiences of transcending, not births. He admitted that it was a verse that discouraged people from even trying.The duty of a master is to encourage the disciple. That has been M's goal all along. The carrot and the stick. Let them think enlightenment is just around the corner. And maybe it is for a person or two. *From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net> [FairfieldLife]" <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:25 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting And at the end of the day, TM is still just "yoga lite." Folks need to try the real stuff. ;-) On 05/11/2016 05:14 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com <mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree here. Nobody, at least on this forum, knows everything Guru Dev taught. He
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
Well, if you think it's a hop, skip and a jump under other *paths* and
masters,.. knock yourself out.I'm more inclined to believe that individuals
*grow* into their paths, regardless of what they may be.That *growth* aspect
involves time and maturity along the way.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
Read it and also Shiva Puranas, Srimad Bhagavatam, etc. etc. etc. With
TM you'll hit a brick wall but other paths have more to offer.
On 05/11/2016 03:10 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
You might try reading the Gita again.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
It doesn't take many lifetimes, it takes a proper teacher who is
qualified to teach it: an acharya. That said, some here may have been
practicing sadhana for many lifetimes anyway.
On 05/11/2016 09:04 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
It may be *yoga lite*, but I doubt many westerners are really ready for
the *yoga heavy*. Maharishi was offering something for the masses. It is as
effective as you are willing to make it. One of the last instructions in the
initial course, in order to gain CC is, *don't do anything you know is wrong*.
Most people can't even *begin* to live up to that instruction.
I was into the 5-8 year plan myself in the beginning but eventually realized
that was just a hook in the jaw to reel you in, as are the rest of the
*programs*. Real yoga requires many births with steady progress along the way.
Best to learn to walk before you try running, patience Grasshopper! There is
a story in one of the Upanishads in which a shishya asks his master how much
longer to gain enlightenment.The master said "see the leaves of this great
tree that we sit under? One life time for every leaf." The shishya, seeing tens
of thousands of leaves, was elated that at last, the end to the endless cycle
of birth and death was in view.
Krishna said "only after many lives of this practice does one come to Me" Of
course M had to weasel his way around that by saying it meant after many
experiences of transcending, not births. He admitted that it was a verse that
discouraged people from even trying.The duty of a master is to encourage the
disciple. That has been M's goal all along. The carrot and the stick. Let them
think enlightenment is just around the corner. And maybe it is for a person or
two.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
And at the end of the day, TM is still just "yoga lite." Folks need
to try the real stuff. ;-)
On 05/11/2016 05:14 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
I have to agree here. Nobody, at least on this forum, knows everything
Guru Dev taught. He was said to be a master of all yogas.I feel pretty
confident that even Maharishi would admit that he didn't know everything Guru
Dev knew. BTW, it's said that Maharishi gave entirely different mantras to
Indians based on their family deity, at least at one time.
From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:29 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
You are merely speculating about a topic you don't know anything about
- without sufficient information at hand.
I received a mantra with omkara from SSRS in 1998. I asked a Sankhya-Yoga
scholar (a former TM teacher) about it and he pointed out that it was a
traditional polysyllabic maha-mantra and was perfectly acceptable in the view
of the Shankaracharya tradition (sampradaya).
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
Read it and also Shiva Puranas, Srimad Bhagavatam, etc. etc. etc. With TM you'll hit a brick wall but other paths have more to offer. On 05/11/2016 03:10 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You might try reading the Gita again. *From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:19 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting It doesn't take many lifetimes, it takes a proper teacher who is qualified to teach it: an acharya. That said, some here may have been practicing sadhana for many lifetimes anyway. On 05/11/2016 09:04 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com <mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote: It may be *yoga lite*, but I doubt many westerners are really ready for the *yoga heavy*. Maharishi was offering something for the masses. It is as effective as you are willing to make it. One of the last instructions in the initial course, in order to gain CC is, *don't do anything you know is wrong*. Most people can't even *begin* to live up to that instruction. I was into the 5-8 year plan myself in the beginning but eventually realized that was just a hook in the jaw to reel you in, as are the rest of the *programs*. Real yoga requires many births with steady progress along the way. Best to learn to walk before you try running, patience Grasshopper! There is a story in one of the Upanishads in which a shishya asks his master how much longer to gain enlightenment.The master said "see the leaves of this great tree that we sit under? One life time for every leaf." The shishya, seeing tens of thousands of leaves, was elated that at last, the end to the endless cycle of birth and death was in view. Krishna said "only after many lives of this practice does one come to Me" Of course M had to weasel his way around that by saying it meant after many experiences of transcending, not births. He admitted that it was a verse that discouraged people from even trying.The duty of a master is to encourage the disciple. That has been M's goal all along. The carrot and the stick. Let them think enlightenment is just around the corner. And maybe it is for a person or two. *From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net> [FairfieldLife]" <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:25 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting And at the end of the day, TM is still just "yoga lite." Folks need to try the real stuff. ;-) On 05/11/2016 05:14 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com <mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree here. Nobody, at least on this forum, knows everything Guru Dev taught. He was said to be a master of all yogas.I feel pretty confident that even Maharishi would admit that he didn't know everything Guru Dev knew. BTW, it's said that Maharishi gave entirely different mantras to Indians based on their family deity, at least at one time. *From:* "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <mailto:emptyb...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:29 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting You are merely speculating about a topic you don't know anything about - without sufficient information at hand. I received a mantra with omkara from SSRS in 1998. I asked a Sankhya-Yoga scholar (a former TM teacher) about it and he pointed out that it was a traditional polysyllabic maha-mantra and was perfectly acceptable in the view of the Shankaracharya tradition (sampradaya).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
Reminds me here's a Indian group chanting . for Trump! http://bigstory.ap.org/article/73ce604e1e2d40859fefab04f1e02d81/hindu-group-india-asks-gods-help-trump-win-us-election On 05/11/2016 09:04 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It may be *yoga lite*, but I doubt many westerners are really ready for the *yoga heavy*. Maharishi was offering something for the masses. It is as effective as you are willing to make it. One of the last instructions in the initial course, in order to gain CC is, *don't do anything you know is wrong*. Most people can't even *begin* to live up to that instruction. I was into the 5-8 year plan myself in the beginning but eventually realized that was just a hook in the jaw to reel you in, as are the rest of the *programs*. Real yoga requires many births with steady progress along the way. Best to learn to walk before you try running, patience Grasshopper! There is a story in one of the Upanishads in which a shishya asks his master how much longer to gain enlightenment.The master said "see the leaves of this great tree that we sit under? One life time for every leaf." The shishya, seeing tens of thousands of leaves, was elated that at last, the end to the endless cycle of birth and death was in view. Krishna said "only after many lives of this practice does one come to Me" Of course M had to weasel his way around that by saying it meant after many experiences of transcending, not births. He admitted that it was a verse that discouraged people from even trying.The duty of a master is to encourage the disciple. That has been M's goal all along. The carrot and the stick. Let them think enlightenment is just around the corner. And maybe it is for a person or two. *From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:25 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting And at the end of the day, TM is still just "yoga lite." Folks need to try the real stuff. ;-) On 05/11/2016 05:14 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com <mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree here. Nobody, at least on this forum, knows everything Guru Dev taught. He was said to be a master of all yogas.I feel pretty confident that even Maharishi would admit that he didn't know everything Guru Dev knew. BTW, it's said that Maharishi gave entirely different mantras to Indians based on their family deity, at least at one time. *From:* "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <mailto:emptyb...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:29 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting You are merely speculating about a topic you don't know anything about - without sufficient information at hand. I received a mantra with omkara from SSRS in 1998. I asked a Sankhya-Yoga scholar (a former TM teacher) about it and he pointed out that it was a traditional polysyllabic maha-mantra and was perfectly acceptable in the view of the Shankaracharya tradition (sampradaya).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
You might try reading the Gita again.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
It doesn't take many lifetimes, it takes a proper teacher who is qualified
to teach it: an acharya. That said, some here may have been practicing sadhana
for many lifetimes anyway.
On 05/11/2016 09:04 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
It may be *yoga lite*, but I doubt many westerners are really ready for
the *yoga heavy*. Maharishi was offering something for the masses. It is as
effective as you are willing to make it. One of the last instructions in the
initial course, in order to gain CC is, *don't do anything you know is wrong*.
Most people can't even *begin* to live up to that instruction.
I was into the 5-8 year plan myself in the beginning but eventually realized
that was just a hook in the jaw to reel you in, as are the rest of the
*programs*. Real yoga requires many births with steady progress along the way.
Best to learn to walk before you try running, patience Grasshopper! There is a
story in one of the Upanishads in which a shishya asks his master how much
longer to gain enlightenment.The master said "see the leaves of this great tree
that we sit under? One life time for every leaf." The shishya, seeing tens of
thousands of leaves, was elated that at last, the end to the endless cycle of
birth and death was in view.
Krishna said "only after many lives of this practice does one come to Me" Of
course M had to weasel his way around that by saying it meant after many
experiences of transcending, not births. He admitted that it was a verse that
discouraged people from even trying.The duty of a master is to encourage the
disciple. That has been M's goal all along. The carrot and the stick. Let them
think enlightenment is just around the corner. And maybe it is for a person or
two.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
And at the end of the day, TM is still just "yoga lite." Folks need
to try the real stuff. ;-)
On 05/11/2016 05:14 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I have to agree here. Nobody, at least on this forum, knows everything
Guru Dev taught. He was said to be a master of all yogas.I feel pretty
confident that even Maharishi would admit that he didn't know everything Guru
Dev knew. BTW, it's said that Maharishi gave entirely different mantras to
Indians based on their family deity, at least at one time.
From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:29 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
You are merely speculating about a topic you don't know anything about
- without sufficient information at hand.
I received a mantra with omkara from SSRS in 1998. I asked a Sankhya-Yoga
scholar (a former TM teacher) about it and he pointed out that it was a
traditional polysyllabic maha-mantra and was perfectly acceptable in the view
of the Shankaracharya tradition (sampradaya).
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
It doesn't take many lifetimes, it takes a proper teacher who is qualified to teach it: an acharya. That said, some here may have been practicing sadhana for many lifetimes anyway. On 05/11/2016 09:04 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It may be *yoga lite*, but I doubt many westerners are really ready for the *yoga heavy*. Maharishi was offering something for the masses. It is as effective as you are willing to make it. One of the last instructions in the initial course, in order to gain CC is, *don't do anything you know is wrong*. Most people can't even *begin* to live up to that instruction. I was into the 5-8 year plan myself in the beginning but eventually realized that was just a hook in the jaw to reel you in, as are the rest of the *programs*. Real yoga requires many births with steady progress along the way. Best to learn to walk before you try running, patience Grasshopper! There is a story in one of the Upanishads in which a shishya asks his master how much longer to gain enlightenment.The master said "see the leaves of this great tree that we sit under? One life time for every leaf." The shishya, seeing tens of thousands of leaves, was elated that at last, the end to the endless cycle of birth and death was in view. Krishna said "only after many lives of this practice does one come to Me" Of course M had to weasel his way around that by saying it meant after many experiences of transcending, not births. He admitted that it was a verse that discouraged people from even trying.The duty of a master is to encourage the disciple. That has been M's goal all along. The carrot and the stick. Let them think enlightenment is just around the corner. And maybe it is for a person or two. *From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:25 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting And at the end of the day, TM is still just "yoga lite." Folks need to try the real stuff. ;-) On 05/11/2016 05:14 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com <mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree here. Nobody, at least on this forum, knows everything Guru Dev taught. He was said to be a master of all yogas.I feel pretty confident that even Maharishi would admit that he didn't know everything Guru Dev knew. BTW, it's said that Maharishi gave entirely different mantras to Indians based on their family deity, at least at one time. *From:* "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <mailto:emptyb...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:29 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting You are merely speculating about a topic you don't know anything about - without sufficient information at hand. I received a mantra with omkara from SSRS in 1998. I asked a Sankhya-Yoga scholar (a former TM teacher) about it and he pointed out that it was a traditional polysyllabic maha-mantra and was perfectly acceptable in the view of the Shankaracharya tradition (sampradaya).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It may be *yoga lite*, but I doubt many westerners are really ready for the *yoga heavy*. Maharishi was offering something for the masses. It is as effective as you are willing to make it. One of the last instructions in the initial course, in order to gain CC is, *don't do anything you know is wrong*. Most people can't even *begin* to live up to that instruction. I was into the 5-8 year plan myself in the beginning but eventually realized that was just a hook in the jaw to reel you in, as are the rest of the *programs*. Real yoga requires many births with steady progress along the way. Best to learn to walk before you try running, patience Grasshopper! There is a story in one of the Upanishads in which a shishya asks his master how much longer to gain enlightenment.The master said "see the leaves of this great tree that we sit under? One life time for every leaf." The shishya, seeing tens of thousands of leaves, was elated that at last, the end to the endless cycle of birth and death was in view. Krishna said "only after many lives of this practice does one come to Me" Of course M had to weasel his way around that by saying it meant after many experiences of transcending, not births. He admitted that it was a verse that discouraged people from even trying.The duty of a master is to encourage the disciple. That has been M's goal all along. The carrot and the stick. Let them think enlightenment is just around the corner. And maybe it is for a person or two. That's why you better enjoy the ride because it is a long time getting there. Funny about that saying you mention above about not doing anything you know, in your heart, to be wrong. That is one thing that has really stuck with me all these years and I do try and live by that and I have mentioned the wisdom of that to many who never heard of MMY. I didn't mention it was his saying/philosophy but the words themselves are profound and important - as simple or as obvious as they may sound. From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting And at the end of the day, TM is still just "yoga lite." Folks need to try the real stuff. ;-) On 05/11/2016 05:14 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree here. Nobody, at least on this forum, knows everything Guru Dev taught. He was said to be a master of all yogas.I feel pretty confident that even Maharishi would admit that he didn't know everything Guru Dev knew. BTW, it's said that Maharishi gave entirely different mantras to Indians based on their family deity, at least at one time. From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:emptybill@...[FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting You are merely speculating about a topic you don't know anything about - without sufficient information at hand. I received a mantra with omkara from SSRS in 1998. I asked a Sankhya-Yoga scholar (a former TM teacher) about it and he pointed out that it was a traditional polysyllabic maha-mantra and was perfectly acceptable in the view of the Shankaracharya tradition (sampradaya).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
It may be *yoga lite*, but I doubt many westerners are really ready for the
*yoga heavy*. Maharishi was offering something for the masses. It is as
effective as you are willing to make it. One of the last instructions in the
initial course, in order to gain CC is, *don't do anything you know is wrong*.
Most people can't even *begin* to live up to that instruction.
I was into the 5-8 year plan myself in the beginning but eventually realized
that was just a hook in the jaw to reel you in, as are the rest of the
*programs*. Real yoga requires many births with steady progress along the way.
Best to learn to walk before you try running, patience Grasshopper!There is a
story in one of the Upanishads in which a shishya asks his master how much
longer to gain enlightenment.The master said "see the leaves of this great tree
that we sit under? One life time for every leaf." The shishya, seeing tens of
thousands of leaves, was elated that at last, the end to the endless cycle of
birth and death was in view.
Krishna said "only after many lives of this practice does one come to Me" Of
course M had to weasel his way around that by saying it meant after many
experiences of transcending, not births. He admitted that it was a verse that
discouraged people from even trying.The duty of a master is to encourage the
disciple. That has been M's goal all along. The carrot and the stick. Let them
think enlightenment is just around the corner. And maybe it is for a person or
two.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
And at the end of the day, TM is still just "yoga lite." Folks need to
try the real stuff. ;-)
On 05/11/2016 05:14 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I have to agree here. Nobody, at least on this forum, knows everything
Guru Dev taught. He was said to be a master of all yogas.I feel pretty
confident that even Maharishi would admit that he didn't know everything Guru
Dev knew. BTW, it's said that Maharishi gave entirely different mantras to
Indians based on their family deity, at least at one time.
From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:29 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
You are merely speculating about a topic you don't know anything about
- without sufficient information at hand.
I received a mantra with omkara from SSRS in 1998. I asked a Sankhya-Yoga
scholar (a former TM teacher) about it and he pointed out that it was a
traditional polysyllabic maha-mantra and was perfectly acceptable in the view
of the Shankaracharya tradition (sampradaya).
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
And at the end of the day, TM is still just "yoga lite." Folks need to try the real stuff. ;-) On 05/11/2016 05:14 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree here. Nobody, at least on this forum, knows everything Guru Dev taught. He was said to be a master of all yogas.I feel pretty confident that even Maharishi would admit that he didn't know everything Guru Dev knew. BTW, it's said that Maharishi gave entirely different mantras to Indians based on their family deity, at least at one time. *From:* "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:29 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting You are merely speculating about a topic you don't know anything about - without sufficient information at hand. I received a mantra with omkara from SSRS in 1998. I asked a Sankhya-Yoga scholar (a former TM teacher) about it and he pointed out that it was a traditional polysyllabic maha-mantra and was perfectly acceptable in the view of the Shankaracharya tradition (sampradaya).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
I have to agree here. Nobody, at least on this forum, knows everything Guru Dev
taught. He was said to be a master of all yogas.I feel pretty confident that
even Maharishi would admit that he didn't know everything Guru Dev knew. BTW,
it's said that Maharishi gave entirely different mantras to Indians based on
their family deity, at least at one time.
From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:29 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
You are merely speculating about a topic you don't know anything about -
without sufficient information at hand.
I received a mantra with omkara from SSRS in 1998. I asked a Sankhya-Yoga
scholar (a former TM teacher) about it and he pointed out that it was a
traditional polysyllabic maha-mantra and was perfectly acceptable in the view
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