Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem (Tonya)
Hey Tonya, Glad you guys are getting some type of routine down. It's funny how hard that can be sometimes, especially with all that you also have going on personally. Keep us posted on Shaft. I hope when he goes for his testing his numbers are in the normal range, and not still hyperT or hypoT. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:47:00 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem (Tonya) Thanks Wendy, I 'think' we are getting a medication routine going. It's hard to tell if he's eating because he won't eat in front of me. But he feels like he's gaining weight. He's still interested in treats. We're retesting in a couple of weeks, and unless things look good I'm going to go to the ear gel. Shaft is 18 years old, so I don't think he's a good candidate for the surgery. :( tonya wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Tonya, I lost my 18 yr. old Julie to hyperT/kidney failure in December. Instead of trying to chase Shaft for oral meds, I would suggest trying the transdermal Tapazole/Methimazole. I ordered Julie's through Pet Health Pharmacy online; they are very reasonable compared to my vet/other pharmacies price-wise and have great service and customer service. The transdermal can be rubbed into the tip of Shaft's ear, which is SOO much easier than trying to pill! You will probably have to adjust and readjust dosing, as the hyperT is never completely cured. The meds just regulate the progression of the disease, slowing it down. I belonged to the hyperT group for two+ years and learned a lot there. One of the problems with the meds is often overdosing of meds. Many vets prescribe 5 mg 2x daily when starting doses should only be 1.25 to 2.5 mg 2x daily. The meds have to be given every 12 hours because they are out of the system after about 12 hours. The other thing you can consider is the radioactive iodine (I-131) treatment. It's expensive; anywhere from $800 to $2000 depending on what part of the U.S. you have the treatment done in. It's a cure, when it works, which is often. It kills the bad cells in the thyroid and leaves the good cells alone. Had I had the money and had Julie not had kidney issues as well and had she been younger, I would have most assuredly gone with this treatment. Hyper T often masks kidney disease, so often people find they are dealing with CRF as well as hyperT once the hyperT is regulated, and if this is the case, you often have to balance to two with the meds, meaning you can't fully treat the hyperT, as the kidney's act up. If Shaft does have CRF after you get him regulated (you'll need to have his bloodwork done 4-6 hours after dosing with Tapazole/Methamizole to check both kidneys and T4 level, about 2 weeks after meds have been started), then subQ fluids are a must. The hyperT Yahoo group is great. Also, heart murmur is often caused by overworking thyroid, so that can disappear/improve after hyperT is regulated with meds. Hope this helps Shaft! :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message ---- From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:26:08 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem (Tonya)
Thanks Wendy, I 'think' we are getting a medication routine going. It's hard to tell if he's eating because he won't eat in front of me. But he feels like he's gaining weight. He's still interested in treats. We're retesting in a couple of weeks, and unless things look good I'm going to go to the ear gel. Shaft is 18 years old, so I don't think he's a good candidate for the surgery. :( tonya wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Tonya, I lost my 18 yr. old Julie to hyperT/kidney failure in December. Instead of trying to chase Shaft for oral meds, I would suggest trying the transdermal Tapazole/Methimazole. I ordered Julie's through Pet Health Pharmacy online; they are very reasonable compared to my vet/other pharmacies price-wise and have great service and customer service. The transdermal can be rubbed into the tip of Shaft's ear, which is SOO much easier than trying to pill! You will probably have to adjust and readjust dosing, as the hyperT is never completely cured. The meds just regulate the progression of the disease, slowing it down. I belonged to the hyperT group for two+ years and learned a lot there. One of the problems with the meds is often overdosing of meds. Many vets prescribe 5 mg 2x daily when starting doses should only be 1.25 to 2.5 mg 2x daily. The meds have to be given every 12 hours because they are out of the system after about 12 hours. The other thing you can consider is the radioactive iodine (I-131) treatment. It's expensive; anywhere from $800 to $2000 depending on what part of the U.S. you have the treatment done in. It's a cure, when it works, which is often. It kills the bad cells in the thyroid and leaves the good cells alone. Had I had the money and had Julie not had kidney issues as well and had she been younger, I would have most assuredly gone with this treatment. Hyper T often masks kidney disease, so often people find they are dealing with CRF as well as hyperT once the hyperT is regulated, and if this is the case, you often have to balance to two with the meds, meaning you can't fully treat the hyperT, as the kidney's act up. If Shaft does have CRF after you get him regulated (you'll need to have his bloodwork done 4-6 hours after dosing with Tapazole/Methamizole to check both kidneys and T4 level, about 2 weeks after meds have been started), then subQ fluids are a must. The hyperT Yahoo group is great. Also, heart murmur is often caused by overworking thyroid, so that can disappear/improve after hyperT is regulated with meds. Hope this helps Shaft! :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:26:08 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
When Gus my SNAP tested once positive male, was not eating, just lying around, but no major signs of illness. I feed him Gerber meat baby food with KMR and lysine powder mixed in. He wolfed it down and got over what appears to have been a viral URI of a mild nature. He is now back to his old self, tearing up the newspaper lining his cage, vocalizing all the time. I think it was a combination of a mild viral URI and his being depressed about being in a cage for half a day. So when I was hand feeding him the baby food, he got the attention he was seeking, so I am still feeding him baby food with lysine mixed in. Sam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
P.S. Julie also loved deli meat!!! "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 2:49:19 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem Funny you say this about the gerber (or BeechNut) baby food. Chicken and gravy was Julie's favorite, and when she would not eat anything else, she scarfed this stuff down!!! It saved her life several times when she stopped eating and towards the end of her life, she lived on it, plus boiled chicken and chicken broth. Make sure whatever baby food you buy does not contain garlic or onions. I think tomatoes are also linked to anemia in cats, but not sure on this. Pepcid (original) was also a life-saver for her a few times when she stopped eating when her stomach acted up. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 11:54:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem Tonya, I don't belong to this group. It is listed in the Links on the Assist Feeding Group. Feline Hyperthyroid (also Hypothyroid welcome) http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-hyperT/?yguid=167334211 Some folks have good luck with Pill Pockets. Most vets carry them. Pets Mart may as well. Mine caught on the 2nd dose and now avoid them like the plague. Pequita would get hysterical and foam at the mouth whenever I tried to pill her. But she loves Gerber 2 Chicken and Gravy baby food. I crush her meds, dissolve them in 1-2 cc of water and add them to a couple of tsp of Gerbers. She laps it right up. Shaft really needs the Tapazole to get his thyroid regulated. If Pill Pockets don't work try the baby food. Any meat variety works just make sure it doesn't have onions or garlic in it. Also the Gerber 2 Chicken and gravy has 100 calories per jar so it would help with the wt issue. Sharyl --- On Sat, 7/19/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:26 AM My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
Funny you say this about the gerber (or BeechNut) baby food. Chicken and gravy was Julie's favorite, and when she would not eat anything else, she scarfed this stuff down!!! It saved her life several times when she stopped eating and towards the end of her life, she lived on it, plus boiled chicken and chicken broth. Make sure whatever baby food you buy does not contain garlic or onions. I think tomatoes are also linked to anemia in cats, but not sure on this. Pepcid (original) was also a life-saver for her a few times when she stopped eating when her stomach acted up. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 11:54:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem Tonya, I don't belong to this group. It is listed in the Links on the Assist Feeding Group. Feline Hyperthyroid (also Hypothyroid welcome) http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-hyperT/?yguid=167334211 Some folks have good luck with Pill Pockets. Most vets carry them. Pets Mart may as well. Mine caught on the 2nd dose and now avoid them like the plague. Pequita would get hysterical and foam at the mouth whenever I tried to pill her. But she loves Gerber 2 Chicken and Gravy baby food. I crush her meds, dissolve them in 1-2 cc of water and add them to a couple of tsp of Gerbers. She laps it right up. Shaft really needs the Tapazole to get his thyroid regulated. If Pill Pockets don't work try the baby food. Any meat variety works just make sure it doesn't have onions or garlic in it. Also the Gerber 2 Chicken and gravy has 100 calories per jar so it would help with the wt issue. Sharyl --- On Sat, 7/19/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:26 AM My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem (Tonya)
Hey Tonya, I lost my 18 yr. old Julie to hyperT/kidney failure in December. Instead of trying to chase Shaft for oral meds, I would suggest trying the transdermal Tapazole/Methimazole. I ordered Julie's through Pet Health Pharmacy online; they are very reasonable compared to my vet/other pharmacies price-wise and have great service and customer service. The transdermal can be rubbed into the tip of Shaft's ear, which is SOO much easier than trying to pill! You will probably have to adjust and readjust dosing, as the hyperT is never completely cured. The meds just regulate the progression of the disease, slowing it down. I belonged to the hyperT group for two+ years and learned a lot there. One of the problems with the meds is often overdosing of meds. Many vets prescribe 5 mg 2x daily when starting doses should only be 1.25 to 2.5 mg 2x daily. The meds have to be given every 12 hours because they are out of the system after about 12 hours. The other thing you can consider is the radioactive iodine (I-131) treatment. It's expensive; anywhere from $800 to $2000 depending on what part of the U.S. you have the treatment done in. It's a cure, when it works, which is often. It kills the bad cells in the thyroid and leaves the good cells alone. Had I had the money and had Julie not had kidney issues as well and had she been younger, I would have most assuredly gone with this treatment. Hyper T often masks kidney disease, so often people find they are dealing with CRF as well as hyperT once the hyperT is regulated, and if this is the case, you often have to balance to two with the meds, meaning you can't fully treat the hyperT, as the kidney's act up. If Shaft does have CRF after you get him regulated (you'll need to have his bloodwork done 4-6 hours after dosing with Tapazole/Methamizole to check both kidneys and T4 level, about 2 weeks after meds have been started), then subQ fluids are a must. The hyperT Yahoo group is great. Also, heart murmur is often caused by overworking thyroid, so that can disappear/improve after hyperT is regulated with meds. Hope this helps Shaft! :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:26:08 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
Oh yes, I lubs mai fren MC!Debbie (COL)"You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:15:25 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem and don't worry, debbie is WELL aware of my objectivity and lack of patience with willful ignorance, from another part of my life/side of the innerwebs and she STILL joined the list! On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, to answer you then...she specializes in well animals!! LOL...she hates doing any surgeries, and probably should never have become a vet (my personal opinion). Debbie (COL)"You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:24:07 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemlol. i meant does he specialize in cats or is he more of a 'dog' personDebbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The wrong kind, obviously!!!Debbie (COL)"You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemyes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you go toDebbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)"You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! ___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more!___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org-- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristine _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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and don't worry, debbie is WELL aware of my objectivity and lack of patience with willful ignorance, from another part of my life/side of the innerwebs and she STILL joined the list! On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, to answer you then...she specializes in well animals!! LOL...she > hates doing any surgeries, and probably should never have become a vet (my > personal opinion). > > Debbie (COL) > "You gotta bloom where you're planted!" > > > -- > Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:24:07 -0700 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem > > lol. i meant does he specialize in cats or is he more of a 'dog' person > > *Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > The wrong kind, obviously!!! > > Debbie (COL) > "You gotta bloom where you're planted!" > > > ------ > Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem > > yes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you go > to > > *Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my > Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the > point, but she wouldn't listen... > > Debbie (COL) > "You gotta bloom where you're planted!" > > > -- > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem > > My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been > so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I > was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting > hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a > heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and > the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. > > Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down > him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. > Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He > doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on > Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not > better. > > Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I > am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. > > t > > -- > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live > Spaces. It's easy! Try > it!<http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us>___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > -- > Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check > it out! > <http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx>___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > -- > Discover the new Windows Vista Learn > more!<http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Time for another vet. On Jul 20, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Debbie Harrison wrote: Ok, to answer you then...she specializes in well animals!! LOL...she hates doing any surgeries, and probably should never have become a vet (my personal opinion). Debbie (COL) "You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:24:07 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem lol. i meant does he specialize in cats or is he more of a 'dog' person Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The wrong kind, obviously!!! Debbie (COL) "You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem yes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you go to Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen... Debbie (COL) "You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out!___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Ok, to answer you then...she specializes in well animals!! LOL...she hates doing any surgeries, and probably should never have become a vet (my personal opinion).Debbie (COL)"You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:24:07 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemlol. i meant does he specialize in cats or is he more of a 'dog' personDebbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The wrong kind, obviously!!!Debbie (COL)"You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemyes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you go toDebbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)"You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! ___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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lol. i meant does he specialize in cats or is he more of a 'dog' person
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The wrong kind, obviously!!!
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yes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you go to
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don't get that"I tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...
Debbie (COL)
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Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was
leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as
soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as
well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down
him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.
Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on
Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
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Oh yeah, she said it...we actually argued about itI have never felt completely comfortable with her diagnostic skills...Debbie (COL)"You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:18:56 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem Yes, MC is known for being one of our most objective (cough) members. But I have to agree with her. Are you sure your vet actually said this tMaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET!it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to manifest! if you like the vet, keep him for vaccinations and things, but if he doesn't know about this yet, he's not whom you need for your dear.as ever, objectively yours,MC On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)"You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it!___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org-- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristine___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The wrong kind, obviously!!!Debbie (COL)"You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemyes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you go toDebbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)"You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft
I feel for you it ain't easy... If Shaft was a 'street' cat, think like he does-what would he tear through garbage bags in a dumpster for. If I push my Romeo too hard, he'll take off under some piece of furniture and just stay there until he figures I've "come to my senses!". I've also used liverwurst-makes a good little "ball', has strong smell, etc. Good for my Tucson but NOT for Romeo. For him, its Ham, Chicken, or Fish. You can buy one or two slices of various things to figure out what he'll go crazy for. My Misty, for example, LOVES gorgonzola or blue cheese-go figure. My LittleBoy loves Yogurt-will come running when he hears me open the container. And Bumper, well, she's a real piece of work and its always a guess with herOne fringe benefit is that it gives me something I can use in a pinch if I have to get any of the out from something they're hiding under real quick. I also give him these 'people' treats without pills hidden in them just so that he stays used to getting them and won't balk when I have to stash a piece of pill in it. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft I guess I will have to work on the treats. I am vegetarian and have never really given the cats treats, so they don't really know what they are. Bob thinks a pill pocket is a treat. That's about it. I'll have to break down and buy some deli turkey, ham or something else I guess and give it a try. Shaft was a 'street' cat. Bob was born and has always lived with me. He has never had 'people' food t Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My Tucson is on daily meds and For Tuscon, we go through "phases"-she does OK w. Pill Pockets for a while, then we go to making a little ball with her favorite soft treat, then we might try the pill in a little ball of cheese or ham, and then we resort to holding and popping pill in her mouth. No one thing works all the time but my saving grace is that this 18 lb porko LOVES to eat! Occasionally, I have to give meds to my Romeo who I CANNOT hold to pop a pill in--it gets real tricky when he periodically needs antibiotics for teeth/gum problems. He won't go near Pill Pockets. I tried compounding meds in liquid form and he looked at me like was insane. BUT, being the old street cat that he is, he loves certain people foods-any cold cuts, fish, and chicken. I break up a pill into as many little pieces as I can and can usually hide a little piece of a pill in treat sized 'ball' of one of those foods. Then he comes running cause its not food he usually gets and he loves that so much more than the treats! Of course, I have to watch cause Tucson (who hates him & makes his life a misery), has n problem sliding over next to him and stealing the new 'treat'! Bottom line, if you can think of some food he absolutely goes nuts for, break up the pill and make little 'treats' (and keep your fingers crossed!) Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft I really don't know if he's eating the canned food or the dry because he won't come in the room when I feed them anymore because that's where I started pilling him. When he stopped coming in the room to be fed I started pilling him when he came to bed. Now he doesn't come to bed with me anymore. Then I started pilling him on his cat tree. Now he just stays hidden and I have to search him out to pill him. The past month has been hectic. I was gone for a week on vacation before I took him in to the vet. Then we started his med.s. then my 4 year old nephew came and stayed a week. (the cats are afraid of him.) then my mother got sick and i've been having to stay with her some and been in and out a lot. i've also had workers at my house. and i'm also trying to give bob and sneaker fluids which scares the other cats.. So it's just been one thing after the other. Shaft is usually very easy going, but he does not like these pills and will not take them in food or pill pockets. Those were my first tries. tonya gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What is he eating? Gary - Original Message - From: catatonya <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem He won't come to me to eat canned food a
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft
I guess I will have to work on the treats. I am vegetarian and have never
really given the cats treats, so they don't really know what they are. Bob
thinks a pill pocket is a treat. That's about it. I'll have to break down and
buy some deli turkey, ham or something else I guess and give it a try. Shaft
was a 'street' cat. Bob was born and has always lived with me. He has never
had 'people' food
t
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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My Tucson is on daily meds and For Tuscon, we go through phasesshe
does OK w. Pill Pockets for a while, then we go to making a little ball with
her favorite soft treat, then we might try the pill in a little ball of cheese
or ham, and then we resort to holding and popping pill in her mouth. No one
thing works all the time but my saving grace is that this 18 lb porko LOVES to
eat!
Occasionally, I have to give meds to my Romeo who I CANNOT hold to pop a pill
in--it gets real tricky when he periodically needs antibiotics for teeth/gum
problems. He wont go near Pill Pockets. I tried compounding meds in liquid
form and he looked at me like was insane. BUT, being the old street cat that
he is, he loves certain people foodsany cold cuts, fish, and chicken. I break
up a pill into as many little pieces as I can and can usually hide a little
piece of a pill in treat sized ball of one of those foods. Then he comes
running cause its not food he usually gets and he loves that so much more than
the treats! Of course, I have to watch cause Tucson (who hates him & makes his
life a misery), has n problem sliding over next to him and stealing the new
treat!
Bottom line, if you can think of some food he absolutely goes nuts for, break
up the pill and make little treats (and keep your fingers crossed!)
Christiane Biagi
914-632-4672
Cell: 914-720-6888
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:25 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft
I really don't know if he's eating the canned food or the dry because he
won't come in the room when I feed them anymore because that's where I started
pilling him. When he stopped coming in the room to be fed I started pilling
him when he came to bed. Now he doesn't come to bed with me anymore. Then I
started pilling him on his cat tree. Now he just stays hidden and I have to
search him out to pill him.
The past month has been hectic. I was gone for a week on vacation before I
took him in to the vet. Then we started his med.s. then my 4 year old nephew
came and stayed a week. (the cats are afraid of him.) then my mother got sick
and i've been having to stay with her some and been in and out a lot. i've
also had workers at my house. and i'm also trying to give bob and sneaker
fluids which scares the other cats.. So it's just been one thing after the
other.
Shaft is usually very easy going, but he does not like these pills and will
not take them in food or pill pockets. Those were my first tries.
tonya
gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What is he eating?
Gary
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From: catatonya
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
He won't come to me to eat canned food anymore. :(
t
gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've never had a problem with any cat by crushing amoxi tablets in food.
Had one cat on tapazole crushed in food with no problem. I doubt it would work
with the aspirin, pretty bitter stuff.
Gary
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From: catatonya
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
thanks. i had him going on the pill pockets until i added the amoxy and the
baby aspirin. it was just too much and he started hiding from me. :(
t
thank you for the link. I went through this with another cat about 4 years
ago (hyper-t) but she didn't hide from me.
t
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft
My Tucson is on daily meds and For Tuscon, we go through "phases"-she does OK w. Pill Pockets for a while, then we go to making a little ball with her favorite soft treat, then we might try the pill in a little ball of cheese or ham, and then we resort to holding and popping pill in her mouth. No one thing works all the time but my saving grace is that this 18 lb porko LOVES to eat! Occasionally, I have to give meds to my Romeo who I CANNOT hold to pop a pill in--it gets real tricky when he periodically needs antibiotics for teeth/gum problems. He won't go near Pill Pockets. I tried compounding meds in liquid form and he looked at me like was insane. BUT, being the old street cat that he is, he loves certain people foods-any cold cuts, fish, and chicken. I break up a pill into as many little pieces as I can and can usually hide a little piece of a pill in treat sized 'ball' of one of those foods. Then he comes running cause its not food he usually gets and he loves that so much more than the treats! Of course, I have to watch cause Tucson (who hates him & makes his life a misery), has n problem sliding over next to him and stealing the new 'treat'! Bottom line, if you can think of some food he absolutely goes nuts for, break up the pill and make little 'treats' (and keep your fingers crossed!) Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft I really don't know if he's eating the canned food or the dry because he won't come in the room when I feed them anymore because that's where I started pilling him. When he stopped coming in the room to be fed I started pilling him when he came to bed. Now he doesn't come to bed with me anymore. Then I started pilling him on his cat tree. Now he just stays hidden and I have to search him out to pill him. The past month has been hectic. I was gone for a week on vacation before I took him in to the vet. Then we started his med.s. then my 4 year old nephew came and stayed a week. (the cats are afraid of him.) then my mother got sick and i've been having to stay with her some and been in and out a lot. i've also had workers at my house. and i'm also trying to give bob and sneaker fluids which scares the other cats.. So it's just been one thing after the other. Shaft is usually very easy going, but he does not like these pills and will not take them in food or pill pockets. Those were my first tries. tonya gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What is he eating? Gary - Original Message - From: catatonya <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem He won't come to me to eat canned food anymore. :( t gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've never had a problem with any cat by crushing amoxi tablets in food. Had one cat on tapazole crushed in food with no problem. I doubt it would work with the aspirin, pretty bitter stuff. Gary - Original Message - From: catatonya <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem thanks. i had him going on the pill pockets until i added the amoxy and the baby aspirin. it was just too much and he started hiding from me. :( t thank you for the link. I went through this with another cat about 4 years ago (hyper-t) but she didn't hide from me. t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3281 (20080718) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem, hyper-t leads to crf?
Didn't mean to upset you but wanted to give you a heads up. I haven't dealt
with hyper-t but have read that many apply the meds via a cream on the ear.
Some say the dose isn't as exact but if Shaft is so anti-pilling it might be a
better alternative for you.
Sharyl
--- On Sun, 7/20/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem, hyper-t leads to crf?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 10:37 AM
oh n!! that is NOT what i want to
hear! I hope shaft doesn't have crf too. I don't know if they even ran a cbc
on him or just the thyroid panel. i'll find out tomorrow. ughhh.
Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Debbie, if your vet doesn't think cats get hyperthyroidism then you desperately
need to find a new vet. Here is a link to more info.
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/thyroid.html
Most folks start out treating with meds to see how the cats responds. Some
will be candidates for radiotherapy. Be aware that may cats are dx with CRF
after the thyroid issues are resolved. Hyper T tends to hide CRF.
Sharyl
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From: Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my Baby
Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the point,
but she wouldn't listen...
Debbie (COL)
"You gotta bloom where you're planted!"
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was
leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as
soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as
well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down
him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.
Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on
Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
t
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem hyper-t
I just checked the last site given and it says it's best to medicate twice a day rather than once maybe that's why he's not doing so well. Maybe I'll go with the compounding gel for the ear. Or maybe we're just not giving enough. His muscle mass is just gone. He has suffered from skin allergies and sneezing fits which I have NOT noticed since he's been on the tapazole now that I think of it. Lots to learn. t Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Our 19 year old was diagnosed with this almost a year ago. He hasn't gained any weight back from what I can tell but he had suffered from itchy skin which has resolved since putting him on medication. He has very little muscle mass on him and is generally having issues associated with being very old: senility, deafness etc, but we think being on thyroid medication has helped him a lot. We have the pharmacy make it into a transdermal which is easily given to him inside his ears. He thinks he's getting an ear massage and enjoys it. As for it not being as effective, our vet felt the pills would be better, but the pharmacist explained to me the difference between the two and in her opinion the transdermal way is more effective. She's an aminal pharmacist as well as a human one so I trust her. I divide the dose in two and give it to him twice a day. Lynne - Original Message - From: Diane Rosenfeldt To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem LOL, MC! But absolutely correctamundo. At one point we had two hyper-t cats, and they took the same pills (tapezole/methimazole) in different dosages. We used to keep whole, half and quarter pills pre-cut in 3 separate pill bottles. Pill splitting day was like an exercise in higher math... I can't imagine a vet not knowing about hyper-t in cats!! But the upside is it's pretty treatable and the pills aren't outrageously expensive, if you go the pill route. I understand it can also be compounded into a cream and rubbed onto their ears but my vet doesn't think it's as effective that way. Diane R. - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET! it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to manifest! if you like the vet, keep him for vaccinations and things, but if he doesn't know about this yet, he's not whom you need for your dear. as ever, objectively yours, MC On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen... Debbie (COL) "You gotta bloom where you're planted!" ------------- Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t - Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine __ NOD32 3282 (20080719) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com - ___
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem, hyper-t leads to crf?
oh n!! that is NOT what i want to hear!
I hope shaft doesn't have crf too. I don't know if they even ran a cbc on him
or just the thyroid panel. i'll find out tomorrow. ughhh.
Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Debbie, if your vet doesn't think
cats get hyperthyroidism then you desperately need to find a new vet. Here is
a link to more info.
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/thyroid.html
Most folks start out treating with meds to see how the cats responds. Some
will be candidates for radiotherapy. Be aware that may cats are dx with CRF
after the thyroid issues are resolved. Hyper T tends to hide CRF.
Sharyl
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FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;}Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"???
It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get
that"I tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...
Debbie (COL)
"You gotta bloom where you're planted!"
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was
leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as
soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as
well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down
him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.
Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on
Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
t
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
Their 'safe' place has been a room in the basement where I keep the litter pans and the food. I've had to move the food upstairs to be sure everyone's eating. I've left the litter pans and some toys and cat trees down there and tried not to chase anyone down there for vet visits or pilling. But Shaft has been hiding down there from pilling to the point that yesterday I had to go down there to pill him. :( Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If he has had the run of the house crating him may feel like punishment to him. I give mine safe places. When they are in their safe place I don't mess with them. I also make a point of picking them up for some love every time we cross paths. I don't want them to think the only time I pick them up is for meds. I'm short on space so I have storage tubs under the beds eliminating that as a hiding space. Sharyl --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 5:23 PM If you can crate him and cover his crate with a sheet sprayed withFeliway it might helpmaybe put Rescue Rememdy in his water. On Jul 19, 2008, at 10:26 AM, catatonya wrote:> My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here> has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a> few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him> into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what> it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an> estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some> amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. > > Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any> med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and> he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate> him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I> have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a> month, but he's getting worse, not better. > > Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other > advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. > > t > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
I think I'll give that a try today so I don't have to chase him down to go to the vet in the morning. thanks, t Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you can crate him and cover his crate with a sheet sprayed with Feliway it might helpmaybe put Rescue Rememdy in his water. On Jul 19, 2008, at 10:26 AM, catatonya wrote: > My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here > has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a > few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him > into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what > it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an > estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some > amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. > > Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any > med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and > he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate > him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I > have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a > month, but he's getting worse, not better. > > Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other > advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. > > t > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft
I really don't know if he's eating the canned food or the dry because he won't come in the room when I feed them anymore because that's where I started pilling him. When he stopped coming in the room to be fed I started pilling him when he came to bed. Now he doesn't come to bed with me anymore. Then I started pilling him on his cat tree. Now he just stays hidden and I have to search him out to pill him. The past month has been hectic. I was gone for a week on vacation before I took him in to the vet. Then we started his med.s. then my 4 year old nephew came and stayed a week. (the cats are afraid of him.) then my mother got sick and i've been having to stay with her some and been in and out a lot. i've also had workers at my house. and i'm also trying to give bob and sneaker fluids which scares the other cats.. So it's just been one thing after the other. Shaft is usually very easy going, but he does not like these pills and will not take them in food or pill pockets. Those were my first tries. tonya gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What is he eating? Gary - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem He won't come to me to eat canned food anymore. :( t gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've never had a problem with any cat by crushing amoxi tablets in food. Had one cat on tapazole crushed in food with no problem. I doubt it would work with the aspirin, pretty bitter stuff. Gary - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem thanks. i had him going on the pill pockets until i added the amoxy and the baby aspirin. it was just too much and he started hiding from me. :( t thank you for the link. I went through this with another cat about 4 years ago (hyper-t) but she didn't hide from me. t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org - ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3281 (20080718) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
Maybe he said hypO thyroid which I've never heard of a cat given. I guess it's possible, but I've never heard of it t MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET! it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to manifest! if you like the vet, keep him for vaccinations and things, but if he doesn't know about this yet, he's not whom you need for your dear. as ever, objectively yours, MC On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen... Debbie (COL) "You gotta bloom where you're planted!" - Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t - Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
Yes, MC is known for being one of our most objective (cough) members. But I have to agree with her. Are you sure your vet actually said this t MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET! it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to manifest! if you like the vet, keep him for vaccinations and things, but if he doesn't know about this yet, he's not whom you need for your dear. as ever, objectively yours, MC On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen... Debbie (COL) "You gotta bloom where you're planted!" - Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t - Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
yes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you go to
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Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my Baby
Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the point,
but she wouldn't listen...
Debbie (COL)
"You gotta bloom where you're planted!"
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was
leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as
soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as
well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down
him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.
Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on
Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
t
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
We discovered Freds early CRF when we were checking him for hyper-t, barely hyper-t also, we were watching him for that because he had a very tiny bump there, but his thyroid test was normal, including the TFree4. Once my vet felt like it had gotten a bit bigger we tested again and he was very slightly hyper-t. He had the radio iodine treatment and his CRF did initially get worse but has since stabalized, his last blood work in March was very close to normal. > Most folks start out treating with meds to see how the cats responds. > Some will be candidates for radiotherapy. Be aware that many cats are > dx with CRF after the thyroid issues are resolved. Hyper T tends to > hide CRF. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
Our 19 year old was diagnosed with this almost a year ago. He hasn't gained any weight back from what I can tell but he had suffered from itchy skin which has resolved since putting him on medication. He has very little muscle mass on him and is generally having issues associated with being very old: senility, deafness etc, but we think being on thyroid medication has helped him a lot. We have the pharmacy make it into a transdermal which is easily given to him inside his ears. He thinks he's getting an ear massage and enjoys it. As for it not being as effective, our vet felt the pills would be better, but the pharmacist explained to me the difference between the two and in her opinion the transdermal way is more effective. She's an aminal pharmacist as well as a human one so I trust her. I divide the dose in two and give it to him twice a day. Lynne - Original Message - From: Diane Rosenfeldt To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem LOL, MC! But absolutely correctamundo. At one point we had two hyper-t cats, and they took the same pills (tapezole/methimazole) in different dosages. We used to keep whole, half and quarter pills pre-cut in 3 separate pill bottles. Pill splitting day was like an exercise in higher math... I can't imagine a vet not knowing about hyper-t in cats!! But the upside is it's pretty treatable and the pills aren't outrageously expensive, if you go the pill route. I understand it can also be compounded into a cream and rubbed onto their ears but my vet doesn't think it's as effective that way. Diane R. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET! it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to manifest! if you like the vet, keep him for vaccinations and things, but if he doesn't know about this yet, he's not whom you need for your dear. as ever, objectively yours, MC On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen... Debbie (COL) "You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine __ NOD32 3282 (20080719) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3282 (20080719) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks for the linkI printed it out and will mail it to the vet.Debbie (COL)"You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:10:28 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem Debbie, if your vet doesn't think cats get hyperthyroidism then you desperately need to find a new vet. Here is a link to more info. http://www.marvistavet.com/html/thyroid.htmlMost folks start out treating with meds to see how the cats responds. Some will be candidates for radiotherapy. Be aware that may cats are dx with CRF after the thyroid issues are resolved. Hyper T tends to hide CRF. Sharyl --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:52 PM Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)"You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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LOL, MC! But absolutely correctamundo. At one point we had two hyper-t cats, and they took the same pills (tapezole/methimazole) in different dosages. We used to keep whole, half and quarter pills pre-cut in 3 separate pill bottles. Pill splitting day was like an exercise in higher math... I can't imagine a vet not knowing about hyper-t in cats!! But the upside is it's pretty treatable and the pills aren't outrageously expensive, if you go the pill route. I understand it can also be compounded into a cream and rubbed onto their ears but my vet doesn't think it's as effective that way. Diane R. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET! it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to manifest! if you like the vet, keep him for vaccinations and things, but if he doesn't know about this yet, he's not whom you need for your dear. as ever, objectively yours, MC On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen... Debbie (COL) "You gotta bloom where you're planted!" _ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try <http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx &mkt=en-us> it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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If he has had the run of the house crating him may feel like punishment to him. I give mine safe places. When they are in their safe place I don't mess with them. I also make a point of picking them up for some love every time we cross paths. I don't want them to think the only time I pick them up is for meds. I'm short on space so I have storage tubs under the beds eliminating that as a hiding space. Sharyl --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 5:23 PM If you can crate him and cover his crate with a sheet sprayed with Feliway it might helpmaybe put Rescue Rememdy in his water. On Jul 19, 2008, at 10:26 AM, catatonya wrote: > My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here > has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a > few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him > into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what > it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an > estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some > amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. > > Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any > med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and > he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate > him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I > have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a > month, but he's getting worse, not better. > > Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other > advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. > > t > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
I completely agreeI have had three cats over the years who had this
disease. And many people I know have also had cats who suffered from it.
Can't imagine a vet not knowing.
- Original Message -
From: Sharyl
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
Debbie, if your vet doesn't think cats get hyperthyroidism then you
desperately need to find a new vet. Here is a link to more info.
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/thyroid.html
Most folks start out treating with meds to see how the cats responds.
Some will be candidates for radiotherapy. Be aware that may cats are dx with
CRF after the thyroid issues are resolved. Hyper T tends to hide CRF.
Sharyl
--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:52 PM
Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with
my Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the
point, but she wouldn't listen...
Debbie (COL)
"You gotta bloom where you're planted!"
--
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has
been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before
I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting
hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart
murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet
put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any
med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still
hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while?
He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on
Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other
advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
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Debbie, if your vet doesn't think cats get hyperthyroidism then you desperately
need to find a new vet. Here is a link to more info.
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/thyroid.html
Most folks start out treating with meds to see how the cats responds. Some
will be candidates for radiotherapy. Be aware that may cats are dx with CRF
after the thyroid issues are resolved. Hyper T tends to hide CRF.
Sharyl
--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my Baby
Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the point,
but she wouldn't listen...
Debbie (COL)
"You gotta bloom where you're planted!"
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was
leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as
soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as
well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down
him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.
Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on
Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
t
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
If you can crate him and cover his crate with a sheet sprayed with Feliway it might helpmaybe put Rescue Rememdy in his water. On Jul 19, 2008, at 10:26 AM, catatonya wrote: > My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here > has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a > few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him > into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what > it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an > estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some > amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. > > Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any > med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and > he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate > him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I > have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a > month, but he's getting worse, not better. > > Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other > advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. > > t > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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What is he eating? Gary - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem He won't come to me to eat canned food anymore. :( t gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've never had a problem with any cat by crushing amoxi tablets in food. Had one cat on tapazole crushed in food with no problem. I doubt it would work with the aspirin, pretty bitter stuff. Gary - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem thanks. i had him going on the pill pockets until i added the amoxy and the baby aspirin. it was just too much and he started hiding from me. :( t thank you for the link. I went through this with another cat about 4 years ago (hyper-t) but she didn't hide from me. t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3281 (20080718) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET! it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to manifest! if you like the vet, keep him for vaccinations and things, but if he doesn't know about this yet, he's not whom you need for your dear. as ever, objectively yours, MC On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Debbie Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my > Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the > point, but she wouldn't listen... > > Debbie (COL) > "You gotta bloom where you're planted!" > > > -- > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem > > My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been > so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I > was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting > hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a > heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and > the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. > > Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down > him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. > Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He > doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on > Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not > better. > > Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I > am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. > > t > > -- > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live > Spaces. It's easy! Try > it!<http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Question...is "hyper-t hyper thyroid"??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says "cats don't get that"I tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)"You gotta bloom where you're planted!" Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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He won't come to me to eat canned food anymore. :( t gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've never had a problem with any cat by crushing amoxi tablets in food. Had one cat on tapazole crushed in food with no problem. I doubt it would work with the aspirin, pretty bitter stuff. Gary - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem thanks. i had him going on the pill pockets until i added the amoxy and the baby aspirin. it was just too much and he started hiding from me. :( t thank you for the link. I went through this with another cat about 4 years ago (hyper-t) but she didn't hide from me. t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I've never had a problem with any cat by crushing amoxi tablets in food. Had one cat on tapazole crushed in food with no problem. I doubt it would work with the aspirin, pretty bitter stuff. Gary - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem thanks. i had him going on the pill pockets until i added the amoxy and the baby aspirin. it was just too much and he started hiding from me. :( t thank you for the link. I went through this with another cat about 4 years ago (hyper-t) but she didn't hide from me. t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
lol. i was still a member, just set to no mail. doh! Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Tonya, I don't belong to this group. It is listed in the Links on the Assist Feeding Group. Feline Hyperthyroid (also Hypothyroid welcome) http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-hyperT/?yguid=167334211 Some folks have good luck with Pill Pockets. Most vets carry them. Pets Mart may as well. Mine caught on the 2nd dose and now avoid them like the plague. Pequita would get hysterical and foam at the mouth whenever I tried to pill her. But she loves Gerber 2 Chicken and Gravy baby food. I crush her meds, dissolve them in 1-2 cc of water and add them to a couple of tsp of Gerbers. She laps it right up. Shaft really needs the Tapazole to get his thyroid regulated. If Pill Pockets don't work try the baby food. Any meat variety works just make sure it doesn't have onions or garlic in it.Also the Gerber 2 Chicken and gravy has 100 calories per jar so it would help with the wt issue. Sharyl --- On Sat, 7/19/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:26 AM My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
thanks. i had him going on the pill pockets until i added the amoxy and the baby aspirin. it was just too much and he started hiding from me. :( t thank you for the link. I went through this with another cat about 4 years ago (hyper-t) but she didn't hide from me. t Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tonya, I don't belong to this group. It is listed in the Links on the Assist Feeding Group. Feline Hyperthyroid (also Hypothyroid welcome) http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-hyperT/?yguid=167334211 Some folks have good luck with Pill Pockets. Most vets carry them. Pets Mart may as well. Mine caught on the 2nd dose and now avoid them like the plague. Pequita would get hysterical and foam at the mouth whenever I tried to pill her. But she loves Gerber 2 Chicken and Gravy baby food. I crush her meds, dissolve them in 1-2 cc of water and add them to a couple of tsp of Gerbers. She laps it right up. Shaft really needs the Tapazole to get his thyroid regulated. If Pill Pockets don't work try the baby food. Any meat variety works just make sure it doesn't have onions or garlic in it.Also the Gerber 2 Chicken and gravy has 100 calories per jar so it would help with the wt issue. Sharyl --- On Sat, 7/19/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:26 AM My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
Tonya, I don't belong to this group. It is listed in the Links on the Assist Feeding Group. Feline Hyperthyroid (also Hypothyroid welcome) http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-hyperT/?yguid=167334211 Some folks have good luck with Pill Pockets. Most vets carry them. Pets Mart may as well. Mine caught on the 2nd dose and now avoid them like the plague. Pequita would get hysterical and foam at the mouth whenever I tried to pill her. But she loves Gerber 2 Chicken and Gravy baby food. I crush her meds, dissolve them in 1-2 cc of water and add them to a couple of tsp of Gerbers. She laps it right up. Shaft really needs the Tapazole to get his thyroid regulated. If Pill Pockets don't work try the baby food. Any meat variety works just make sure it doesn't have onions or garlic in it. Also the Gerber 2 Chicken and gravy has 100 calories per jar so it would help with the wt issue. Sharyl --- On Sat, 7/19/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:26 AM My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
