Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
Well I haven't worried about those things, but I do keep checking Topaz' pads of his feet to be sure they are bright pink. I could not go through that again - at least for a while. Either I have been very fortunate or FeLV is getting more rampant in our area because I have had numerous cats throughout my life and other than an occasional accident (back when I let them outside), my cats all lived to be around 18 or 19. My Patches lived to be 21, and he was an in/out cat his whole life. Then one day he did not return. But he was healthy right up until he left. Now my cats are indoor except for Cally who just hates it indoors. And she has an insulated little house to go in which is built up on a platform and the door is only large enough for her to go through, and it is in a garage where the door is always open. Other animals don't seem to dare to go in there. Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 3:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker I am hoping Josie (Jo Jo) the new kitty gets to be the Guinness Records oldest cat someday. By then I too will be old enough to worry about out living the next one. Am I the only one who after losing a very special kitty tragically young and getting a new one, has little panic attacks that something bad will happen to the new one? She, her siblings and her mother all tested negative for FELV/FIV, but I find myself looking at her and thinking OMG what if she has a heart murmur, what if she has FIP, what if she gets cancer, what if I forget to put the toilet seat down and she falls in. Ok, so she is big enough to get out of the toilet if she fell in, but what if she bumped her head on the way in! Yes, I am actually constantly checking the toilets in the house. -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker Check out Rustic Hollow. Ardy Robertson wrote: > I am actually thinking that next time around I will adopt a more > senior cat. My age is getting to be more “senior” in nature, and I > worry that if my pets outlive me, what will happen to them? Both of my > kids say they would take them, but my daughter is more of a dog > person, and her hubby is very allergic to cats. And my son loves cats, > but is gone all the time traveling – I just don’t think either would be an > ideal situation. > > > > Ardy > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Margo > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > > Rachel, "senior" rescue isn't for everyone, and I don't fault you at all. > ANY cat who finds a home is cause for celebration. If we couldn't > place the young ones the less adoptables would be out of time that > much more quickly. It's hard to wait for the right cat, but you'll find her. > > Good luck :) > > Margo > > -Original Message- > From: Rachel Dagner > Sent: Jun 11, 2016 9:45 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > > Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar > to Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting > blockages. I know I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well > as some friends that do rescue by admitting they are young kitties and > not old. I do feel a lot of guilt because I don't want any kitty to > not have a home, but in the end it needs to be my decision and I have > thought about the pros and cons a great deal. I wish I could save them > all. I am praying my new kitty will get used to riding in the car and > will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker actually loved > riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to follow me > to my car and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I did > take him home he snuggled right in the crate and looked positively > content. I took him to the mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin > with a huge screened porch so he could watch the wildlife. I also have > the pet tracking gps collar he had to wear on vacation just in case. I > never left Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I had her with a > sitter, where I go they go or I just don't go, I don't trust anyone > with my animals except my mom and she lives in Texas. I want my new > kitty to travel too if at all possible and will work very hard to make > this happen. I also h
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
Thee are some of the same worries a mother has about her child. You should be concerned and take steps to control what you can, BUT do not let it control your life. Things happen and when they do, you deal with them, just do not panic. NO< you are not the only one but you can't let the worry paralyze you so you drive yourself and them crazy. After all, your worries transfer to others in your life. Just give yourself time to deal with this. Yo have lost someone near and dear to you so it is natural to worry about others arond you for a while. It will get better as time goes by, believe me after losing a lot of my babies, I know it will get better, never goes away, just geets easier to deal with. Rachel Dagner wrote: > I am hoping Josie (Jo Jo) the new kitty gets to be the Guinness Records oldest cat someday. By then I too will be old enough to worry about out living the next one. Am I the only one who after losing a very special kitty tragically young and getting a new one, has little panic attacks that something bad will happen to the new one? She, her siblings and her mother all tested negative for FELV/FIV, but I find myself looking at her and thinking OMG what if she has a heart murmur, what if she has FIP, what if she gets cancer, what if I forget to put the toilet seat down and she falls in. Ok, so she is big enough to get out of the toilet if she fell in, but what if she bumped her head on the way in! Yes, I am actually constantly checking the toilets in the house. -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker Check out Rustic Hollow. Ardy Robertson wrote: > I am actually thinking that next time around I will adopt a more senior > cat. My age is getting to be more “senior” in nature, and I worry that if > my pets outlive me, what will happen to them? Both of my kids say they > would take them, but my daughter is more of a dog person, and her hubby is > very allergic to cats. And my son loves cats, but is gone all the time > traveling – I just don’t think either would be an ideal situation. > > > > Ardy > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Margo > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > > Rachel, "senior" rescue isn't for everyone, and I don't fault you at all. > ANY cat who finds a home is cause for celebration. If we couldn't place > the young ones the less adoptables would be out of time that much more > quickly. It's hard to wait for the right cat, but you'll find her. > > Good luck :) > > Margo > > -Original Message- > From: Rachel Dagner > Sent: Jun 11, 2016 9:45 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > > Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to > Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages. I > know I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends > that do rescue by admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel > a lot of guilt because I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in > the end it needs to be my decision and I have thought about the pros and > cons a great deal. I wish I could save them all. I am praying my new > kitty will get used to riding in the car and will take her to work to get > her used to it. Tucker actually loved riding in the car, when he was > homeless at work he used to follow me to my car and put his paws up on the > door ledge to get in. When I did take him home he snuggled right in the > crate and looked positively content. I took him to the mountains on > vacation. We had a nice cabin with a huge screened porch so he could watch > the wildlife. I also have the pet tracking gps collar he had to wear on > vacation just in case. I never left Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I > had her with a sitter, where I go they go or I just don't go, I don't > trust anyone with my animals except my mom and she lives in Texas. I want > my new kitty to travel too if at all possible and will work very hard to > make this happen. I also hope to get her used to brushing her teeth every > night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy will play together > like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in love with her > antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and come to appreciate cats even > more, and even fall in love with her. I meet them tomorrow and hope I > feel something when I do. I desperately need
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
I am hoping Josie (Jo Jo) the new kitty gets to be the Guinness Records oldest cat someday. By then I too will be old enough to worry about out living the next one. Am I the only one who after losing a very special kitty tragically young and getting a new one, has little panic attacks that something bad will happen to the new one? She, her siblings and her mother all tested negative for FELV/FIV, but I find myself looking at her and thinking OMG what if she has a heart murmur, what if she has FIP, what if she gets cancer, what if I forget to put the toilet seat down and she falls in. Ok, so she is big enough to get out of the toilet if she fell in, but what if she bumped her head on the way in! Yes, I am actually constantly checking the toilets in the house. -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker Check out Rustic Hollow. Ardy Robertson wrote: > I am actually thinking that next time around I will adopt a more senior > cat. My age is getting to be more “senior” in nature, and I worry that if > my pets outlive me, what will happen to them? Both of my kids say they > would take them, but my daughter is more of a dog person, and her hubby is > very allergic to cats. And my son loves cats, but is gone all the time > traveling – I just don’t think either would be an ideal situation. > > > > Ardy > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Margo > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > > Rachel, "senior" rescue isn't for everyone, and I don't fault you at all. > ANY cat who finds a home is cause for celebration. If we couldn't place > the young ones the less adoptables would be out of time that much more > quickly. It's hard to wait for the right cat, but you'll find her. > > Good luck :) > > Margo > > -Original Message- > From: Rachel Dagner > Sent: Jun 11, 2016 9:45 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > > Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to > Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages. I > know I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends > that do rescue by admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel > a lot of guilt because I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in > the end it needs to be my decision and I have thought about the pros and > cons a great deal. I wish I could save them all. I am praying my new > kitty will get used to riding in the car and will take her to work to get > her used to it. Tucker actually loved riding in the car, when he was > homeless at work he used to follow me to my car and put his paws up on the > door ledge to get in. When I did take him home he snuggled right in the > crate and looked positively content. I took him to the mountains on > vacation. We had a nice cabin with a huge screened porch so he could watch > the wildlife. I also have the pet tracking gps collar he had to wear on > vacation just in case. I never left Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I > had her with a sitter, where I go they go or I just don't go, I don't > trust anyone with my animals except my mom and she lives in Texas. I want > my new kitty to travel too if at all possible and will work very hard to > make this happen. I also hope to get her used to brushing her teeth every > night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy will play together > like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in love with her > antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and come to appreciate cats even > more, and even fall in love with her. I meet them tomorrow and hope I > feel something when I do. I desperately need to heal from this aching > emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my kitty will never see a > shelter again. Even if I die my family would never let that happen. It > makes me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it > "inconvenient" for whatever reason. They give up their animal yet end up > getting another one later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I > hope everyone still likes me even though I am looking at young kitties > after all they need a good home and life too and one will have that with > me for all of her days. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson <mailto:ar...@centurytel.net> > wrote: > > Rachel – you sound li
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
When someone passed and the problem of what to do with cats came up, I starred searching. I have no relatives or friends I wold want to leave my babies to, not that they would be mistreated, but for the same reason you expressed. Intentions are good, but the reality of daily care and expense can ruin the best of intentions. That is why I chose Rustic Hollow. They are no kill and will keep them for the rest of their days. They will not be in cages, but allowed to roam free in their house and a caged outdoor area to roam in. Ardy Robertson wrote: > I am actually thinking that next time around I will adopt a more senior cat. > My age is getting to be more “senior” in nature, and I worry that if my pets > outlive me, what will happen to them? Both of my kids say they would take > them, but my daughter is more of a dog person, and her hubby is very allergic > to cats. And my son loves cats, but is gone all the time traveling – I just > don’t think either would be an ideal situation. > > > > Ardy > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > > Rachel, "senior" rescue isn't for everyone, and I don't fault you at all. ANY > cat who finds a home is cause for celebration. If we couldn't place the > young ones the less adoptables would be out of time that much more quickly. > It's hard to wait for the right cat, but you'll find her. > > Good luck :) > > Margo > > -Original Message- > From: Rachel Dagner > Sent: Jun 11, 2016 9:45 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > > Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to > Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages. I know > I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends that do > rescue by admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel a lot of > guilt because I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in the end it > needs to be my decision and I have thought about the pros and cons a great > deal. I wish I could save them all. I am praying my new kitty will get used > to riding in the car and will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker > actually loved riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to > follow me to my car and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I > did take him home he snuggled right in the crate and looked positively > content. I took him to the mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin with a > huge screened porch so he could watch the wildlife. I also have the pet > tracking gps collar he had to wear on vacation just in case. I never left > Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I had her with a sitter, where I go they > go or I just don't go, I don't trust anyone with my animals except my mom and > she lives in Texas. I want my new kitty to travel too if at all possible and > will work very hard to make this happen. I also hope to get her used to > brushing her teeth every night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy > will play together like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in > love with her antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and come to appreciate > cats even more, and even fall in love with her. I meet them tomorrow and > hope I feel something when I do. I desperately need to heal from this aching > emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my kitty will never see a > shelter again. Even if I die my family would never let that happen. It makes > me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it "inconvenient" for > whatever reason. They give up their animal yet end up getting another one > later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I hope everyone still > likes me even though I am looking at young kitties after all they need a good > home and life too and one will have that with me for all of her days. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson <mailto:ar...@centurytel.net> > wrote: > > Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had > after Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in > PetSmart – I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very > similar to Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow > is comforting – even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I > even had GUILT about li
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Check out Rustic Hollow. Ardy Robertson wrote: > I am actually thinking that next time around I will adopt a more senior cat. > My age is getting to be more “senior” in nature, and I worry that if my pets > outlive me, what will happen to them? Both of my kids say they would take > them, but my daughter is more of a dog person, and her hubby is very allergic > to cats. And my son loves cats, but is gone all the time traveling – I just > don’t think either would be an ideal situation. > > > > Ardy > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > > Rachel, "senior" rescue isn't for everyone, and I don't fault you at all. ANY > cat who finds a home is cause for celebration. If we couldn't place the > young ones the less adoptables would be out of time that much more quickly. > It's hard to wait for the right cat, but you'll find her. > > Good luck :) > > Margo > > -Original Message- > From: Rachel Dagner > Sent: Jun 11, 2016 9:45 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > > Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to > Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages. I know > I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends that do > rescue by admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel a lot of > guilt because I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in the end it > needs to be my decision and I have thought about the pros and cons a great > deal. I wish I could save them all. I am praying my new kitty will get used > to riding in the car and will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker > actually loved riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to > follow me to my car and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I > did take him home he snuggled right in the crate and looked positively > content. I took him to the mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin with a > huge screened porch so he could watch the wildlife. I also have the pet > tracking gps collar he had to wear on vacation just in case. I never left > Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I had her with a sitter, where I go they > go or I just don't go, I don't trust anyone with my animals except my mom and > she lives in Texas. I want my new kitty to travel too if at all possible and > will work very hard to make this happen. I also hope to get her used to > brushing her teeth every night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy > will play together like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in > love with her antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and come to appreciate > cats even more, and even fall in love with her. I meet them tomorrow and > hope I feel something when I do. I desperately need to heal from this aching > emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my kitty will never see a > shelter again. Even if I die my family would never let that happen. It makes > me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it "inconvenient" for > whatever reason. They give up their animal yet end up getting another one > later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I hope everyone still > likes me even though I am looking at young kitties after all they need a good > home and life too and one will have that with me for all of her days. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson <mailto:ar...@centurytel.net> > wrote: > > Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had > after Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in > PetSmart – I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very > similar to Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow > is comforting – even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I > even had GUILT about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out > of that glass enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with > bringing one home. You will know if it is okay to help out another > kitty…….Ardy > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner > Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker >
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I am actually thinking that next time around I will adopt a more senior cat. My age is getting to be more “senior” in nature, and I worry that if my pets outlive me, what will happen to them? Both of my kids say they would take them, but my daughter is more of a dog person, and her hubby is very allergic to cats. And my son loves cats, but is gone all the time traveling – I just don’t think either would be an ideal situation. Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker Rachel, "senior" rescue isn't for everyone, and I don't fault you at all. ANY cat who finds a home is cause for celebration. If we couldn't place the young ones the less adoptables would be out of time that much more quickly. It's hard to wait for the right cat, but you'll find her. Good luck :) Margo -Original Message- From: Rachel Dagner Sent: Jun 11, 2016 9:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages. I know I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends that do rescue by admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel a lot of guilt because I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in the end it needs to be my decision and I have thought about the pros and cons a great deal. I wish I could save them all. I am praying my new kitty will get used to riding in the car and will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker actually loved riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to follow me to my car and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I did take him home he snuggled right in the crate and looked positively content. I took him to the mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin with a huge screened porch so he could watch the wildlife. I also have the pet tracking gps collar he had to wear on vacation just in case. I never left Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I had her with a sitter, where I go they go or I just don't go, I don't trust anyone with my animals except my mom and she lives in Texas. I want my new kitty to travel too if at all possible and will work very hard to make this happen. I also hope to get her used to brushing her teeth every night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy will play together like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in love with her antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and come to appreciate cats even more, and even fall in love with her. I meet them tomorrow and hope I feel something when I do. I desperately need to heal from this aching emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my kitty will never see a shelter again. Even if I die my family would never let that happen. It makes me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it "inconvenient" for whatever reason. They give up their animal yet end up getting another one later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I hope everyone still likes me even though I am looking at young kitties after all they need a good home and life too and one will have that with me for all of her days. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson mailto:ar...@centurytel.net> > wrote: Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had after Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in PetSmart – I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very similar to Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow is comforting – even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I even had GUILT about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out of that glass enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with bringing one home. You will know if it is okay to help out another kitty…….Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid
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Rachel, "senior" rescue isn't for everyone, and I don't fault you at all. ANY cat who finds a home is cause for celebration. If we couldn't place the young ones the less adoptables would be out of time that much more quickly. It's hard to wait for the right cat, but you'll find her. Good luck :)Margo-Original Message- From: Rachel Dagner Sent: Jun 11, 2016 9:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages. I know I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends that do rescue by admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel a lot of guilt because I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in the end it needs to be my decision and I have thought about the pros and cons a great deal. I wish I could save them all. I am praying my new kitty will get used to riding in the car and will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker actually loved riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to follow me to my car and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I did take him home he snuggled right in the crate and looked positively content. I took him to the mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin with a huge screened porch so he could watch the wildlife. I also have the pet tracking gps collar he had to wear on vacation just in case. I never left Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I had her with a sitter, where I go they go or I just don't go, I don't trust anyone with my animals except my mom and she lives in Texas. I want my new kitty to travel too if at all possible and will work very hard to make this happen. I also hope to get her used to brushing her teeth every night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy will play together like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in love with her antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and come to appreciate cats even more, and even fall in love with her. I meet them tomorrow and hope I feel something when I do. I desperately need to heal from this aching emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my kitty will never see a shelter again. Even if I die my family would never let that happen. It makes me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it "inconvenient" for whatever reason. They give up their animal yet end up getting another one later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I hope everyone still likes me even though I am looking at young kitties after all they need a good home and life too and one will have that with me for all of her days. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote: Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had after Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in PetSmart – I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very similar to Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow is comforting – even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I even had GUILT about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out of that glass enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with bringing one home. You will know if it is okay to help out another kitty…….Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel DagnerSent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there with him and went through my pictures again and talked to him about all of my feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much I miss him. I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder, they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am not ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any illness, then I deal with it, because that is what you do. I am going to Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be ready, or if this is what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it won’t hurt to go meet them and see how my hear
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker and Kittens...
You must have my Harley, at 4 years, he still acts like a kitten and he has an attitude. There are days I swear I could kill him, he wants what he wants and will not take no for an answer. But then he jumps on my lap, rolls over on his back and grins at me, What are you going to do? ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > Rachel: > While I would like, of course, to see more people take the animals that > are harder to place, you are hardly to be critiqued for giving a needy > animal(s) a home. I wouldn't take Kittens at my age ( 64) simply > because there is a good chance that I would not outlive them ( with > current health concerns) and I don't have anyone to leave them with when > I go... It KILLS me when I see animals that lived in a home for most of > their lives brought to our shelter at age 14 or older because the owner > passed away or became too infirm to take care of them any more. Worse > still when someone finds out ,after having the animal 10 years that they > are " allergic " ( but I won't start on that one) Enjoy > themthey add such energy to a household!! > My one 9 month old still acts as though he is 6 weeks old and I VERY > much wish he weighed the same todayHe'd wreck the place if I didn't > keep an eye on him constantly > > > Bob ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker and Kittens...
Rachel: While I would like, of course, to see more people take the animals that are harder to place, you are hardly to be critiqued for giving a needy animal(s) a home. I wouldn't take Kittens at my age ( 64) simply because there is a good chance that I would not outlive them ( with current health concerns) and I don't have anyone to leave them with when I go... It KILLS me when I see animals that lived in a home for most of their lives brought to our shelter at age 14 or older because the owner passed away or became too infirm to take care of them any more. Worse still when someone finds out ,after having the animal 10 years that they are " allergic " ( but I won't start on that one) Enjoy themthey add such energy to a household!! My one 9 month old still acts as though he is 6 weeks old and I VERY much wish he weighed the same todayHe'd wreck the place if I didn't keep an eye on him constantly Bob ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
AMEN! Amani Oakley wrote: > Rachel my dear. You do not disappoint. Kittens need homes too. I have been > rescuing for years and years, and every once in a while I too decide it’s > time for a kitten. They perk up the whole household and it is a very > different experience than with an older cat. But seriously, it’s like picking > your favourite flower. They’re all beautiful, all have amazing unique > qualities, and all bring beauty and happiness into your life. You will be > smitten when you meet them, I am sure. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner > Sent: June-11-16 9:45 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to > Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages. I know > I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends that do > rescue by admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel a lot of > guilt because I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in the end it > needs to be my decision and I have thought about the pros and cons a great > deal. I wish I could save them all. I am praying my new kitty will get used > to riding in the car and will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker > actually loved riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to > follow me to my car and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I > did take him home he snuggled right in the crate and looked positively > content. I took him to the mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin with a > huge screened porch so he could watch the wildlife. I also have the pet > tracking gps collar he had to wear on vacation just in case. I never left > Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I had her with a sitter, where I go they > go or I just don't go, I don't trust anyone with my animals except my mom and > she lives in Texas. I want my new kitty to travel too if at all possible and > will work very hard to make this happen. I also hope to get her used to > brushing her teeth every night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy > will play together like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in > love with her antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and come to appreciate > cats even more, and even fall in love with her. I meet them tomorrow and > hope I feel something when I do. I desperately need to heal from this aching > emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my kitty will never see a > shelter again. Even if I die my family would never let that happen. It makes > me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it "inconvenient" for > whatever reason. They give up their animal yet end up getting another one > later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I hope everyone still > likes me even though I am looking at young kitties after all they need a good > home and life too and one will have that with me for all of her days. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson > mailto:ar...@centurytel.net>> wrote: > Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had > after Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in > PetSmart – I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very > similar to Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow > is comforting – even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I > even had GUILT about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out > of that glass enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with > bringing one home. You will know if it is okay to help out another > kitty…….Ardy > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner > Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know > if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my > appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein > shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune > of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried > all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed > with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. > I laid there with him and went through my pictures again and talked to him > about all of my feeli
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Rachel my dear. You do not disappoint. Kittens need homes too. I have been rescuing for years and years, and every once in a while I too decide it’s time for a kitten. They perk up the whole household and it is a very different experience than with an older cat. But seriously, it’s like picking your favourite flower. They’re all beautiful, all have amazing unique qualities, and all bring beauty and happiness into your life. You will be smitten when you meet them, I am sure. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: June-11-16 9:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages. I know I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends that do rescue by admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel a lot of guilt because I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in the end it needs to be my decision and I have thought about the pros and cons a great deal. I wish I could save them all. I am praying my new kitty will get used to riding in the car and will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker actually loved riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to follow me to my car and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I did take him home he snuggled right in the crate and looked positively content. I took him to the mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin with a huge screened porch so he could watch the wildlife. I also have the pet tracking gps collar he had to wear on vacation just in case. I never left Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I had her with a sitter, where I go they go or I just don't go, I don't trust anyone with my animals except my mom and she lives in Texas. I want my new kitty to travel too if at all possible and will work very hard to make this happen. I also hope to get her used to brushing her teeth every night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy will play together like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in love with her antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and come to appreciate cats even more, and even fall in love with her. I meet them tomorrow and hope I feel something when I do. I desperately need to heal from this aching emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my kitty will never see a shelter again. Even if I die my family would never let that happen. It makes me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it "inconvenient" for whatever reason. They give up their animal yet end up getting another one later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I hope everyone still likes me even though I am looking at young kitties after all they need a good home and life too and one will have that with me for all of her days. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson mailto:ar...@centurytel.net>> wrote: Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had after Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in PetSmart – I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very similar to Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow is comforting – even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I even had GUILT about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out of that glass enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with bringing one home. You will know if it is okay to help out another kitty…….Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there with him and went through my pictures again and talked to him about all of my feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much I miss him. I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder, they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am not ready for FELV again right now. If it happen
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I agree! I never go looking for another cat, they come to me, through a friend, a vet or just show up at my house. I feed them and I am sunk, they stay. ZI think God is sending me another soul to rescue and a rescue for me. Ardy Robertson wrote: > Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had > after Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in > PetSmart – I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very > similar to Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow > is comforting – even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I > even had GUILT about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out > of that glass enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with > bringing one home. You will know if it is okay to help out another > kitty…….Ardy > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner > Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know > if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my > appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein > shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune > of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried > all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed > with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. > I laid there with him and went through my pictures again and talked to him > about all of my feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much > I miss him. > > > > I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder, they > test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there is no > sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for > anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am not > ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any illness, > then I deal with it, because that is what you do. I am going to Petsmart > over in Tampa on Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be > ready, or if this is what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it > won’t hurt to go meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the greatest > gifts Tucker gave me is that “no cats” Harry, when I showed him a pictures of > a kitty on Pet finder he said “Is that the one you want to get?” So I know > now that I will never again have to live without the feel of that soft fur on > my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my ear. It is so hard > because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to. I guess we will see > what happens… > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > <mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> ] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:59 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your fur-baby. > The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even though I said > I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my heart, but Topaz is > easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had with Tigger or like > you had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a reason to not try again, > and with all the little homeless kitties, I think Tigger would have wanted me > to help another kitty. Certainly take your time, but I hope you can open your > heart again at some point. > > > > Ardy > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner > Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for > me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my > adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined > him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I only had > him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. Emergency > vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world though. He > touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private cremation, so I ca
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages. I know I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends that do rescue by admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel a lot of guilt because I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in the end it needs to be my decision and I have thought about the pros and cons a great deal. I wish I could save them all. I am praying my new kitty will get used to riding in the car and will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker actually loved riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to follow me to my car and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I did take him home he snuggled right in the crate and looked positively content. I took him to the mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin with a huge screened porch so he could watch the wildlife. I also have the pet tracking gps collar he had to wear on vacation just in case. I never left Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I had her with a sitter, where I go they go or I just don't go, I don't trust anyone with my animals except my mom and she lives in Texas. I want my new kitty to travel too if at all possible and will work very hard to make this happen. I also hope to get her used to brushing her teeth every night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy will play together like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in love with her antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and come to appreciate cats even more, and even fall in love with her. I meet them tomorrow and hope I feel something when I do. I desperately need to heal from this aching emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my kitty will never see a shelter again. Even if I die my family would never let that happen. It makes me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it "inconvenient" for whatever reason. They give up their animal yet end up getting another one later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I hope everyone still likes me even though I am looking at young kitties after all they need a good home and life too and one will have that with me for all of her days. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson wrote: > > Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had > after Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in > PetSmart – I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very > similar to Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow > is comforting – even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I > even had GUILT about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out > of that glass enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with > bringing one home. You will know if it is okay to help out another > kitty…….Ardy > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner > Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know > if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my > appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein > shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune > of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried > all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed > with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. > I laid there with him and went through my pictures again and talked to him > about all of my feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much > I miss him. > > I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder, they > test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there is no > sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for > anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am not > ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any illness, > then I deal with it, because that is what you do. I am going to Petsmart > over in Tampa on Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be > ready, or if this is what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it > won’t hurt to go meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the greatest > gifts Tucker gave me is that “no cats” Harry, when I showed him a pictures of > a kitty on Pet finder he said “Is that the one you want to get?” So I know > now that I will never again have to live
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Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had after Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in PetSmart – I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very similar to Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow is comforting – even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I even had GUILT about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out of that glass enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with bringing one home. You will know if it is okay to help out another kitty…….Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there with him and went through my pictures again and talked to him about all of my feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much I miss him. I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder, they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am not ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any illness, then I deal with it, because that is what you do. I am going to Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be ready, or if this is what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it won’t hurt to go meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the greatest gifts Tucker gave me is that “no cats” Harry, when I showed him a pictures of a kitty on Pet finder he said “Is that the one you want to get?” So I know now that I will never again have to live without the feel of that soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my ear. It is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to. I guess we will see what happens… From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> ] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your fur-baby. The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even though I said I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my heart, but Topaz is easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had with Tigger or like you had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a reason to not try again, and with all the little homeless kitties, I think Tigger would have wanted me to help another kitty. Certainly take your time, but I hope you can open your heart again at some point. Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I only had him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. Emergency vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world though. He touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private cremation, so I can keep him close to me always. I was the one person in his life that he loved and adored more than anything, and he never doubted my love for him. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. mailto:kaths...@gmail.com> > wrote: I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for you. On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson mailto:ar...@centurytel.net> > wrote: I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker. Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> ] On Behalf Of Rachel
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I know, older cats are great have a lot of love to give and given care, can live to 19 or more. Give them a chance. Margo wrote: > > > Lorrie gives you very good advice. And many rescues, and even shelters will > let an older cat go on a trial basis. They will sometimes go a bit farther > for an older cat, knowing there are few options. Most potential adopters want > kittens. If you are very strong, consider a senior cat. They have often been > loved all their lives, and when their own person dies or goes into care, for > some reason there is no longer a place for them. Many have 6-8 good years > left, but that is a tough choice knowing time is limited. > > Whatever your choice, thank you for giving another cat a soft, safe place to > fall... > > :) > > Margo > > > -Original Message- > >From: Lorrie > >Sent: Jun 9, 2016 10:47 AM > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > >Rachel, > > > >You will never forget Tucker, and a new cat will not replace Tucker, > >but it will soon make it's own place in your heart. > >- > > > >I cannot imagine not having a cat to love, when I lose one. There are > >so many wonderful, loving cats who desperately need a home, and if I > >may offer a bit of advise from an old lady If you want to be > >sure of a very affectionate, loving cat I'd suggest you pick a cat, > >not a kitten. Kittens are adorable, but their personalities are not > >yet formed, and you could be disappointed when the kitten grows up. > >With an older cat who reaches out to you with paws extended, purring > >and ready for love, you'll get the kind of cat you need and want - > >Go for it! > > > > > >Lorrie > > > > > > > > > >On 06-09, Rachel Dagner wrote: > >>I picked up Tucker's ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn't > >>know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven't eaten since > >>Sunday my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a > >>couple protein shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone > >>who has the misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that > >>matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the > >>way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and > >>I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there with him and > >>went through my pictures again and talked to him about all of my > >>feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much I miss > >>him. > >> > >> > >>I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet > >>finder, they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don't. I > >>know that there is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn't trade my > >>time with Tucker for anything in the world. I just know that > >>emotionally and financially I am not ready for FELV again right now. If > >>it happens, just like with any illness, then I deal with it, because > >>that is what you do. I am going to Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to > >>meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be ready, or if this is > >>what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it won't hurt to go > >>meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the greatest gifts Tucker > >>gave me is that "no cats" Harry, when I showed him a pictures of a > >>kitty on Pet finder he said "Is that the one you want to get?" So I > >>know now that I will never again have to live without the feel of that > >>soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my ear. It > >>is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to. I > >>guess we will see what happens... > >> > >> > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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And that's the way. You will know in some way. It will either be instant or a cat you can't get out of your head...especially if you find yourself thinking "I must be NUTS...but..."Don't rush. Or, you can do what i did with my newest dog. Turn to a rescuer you trust, and say "find me a dog (cat) that needs me". He's perfect :)But when it's time, it will happen...Margo-Original Message- From: Rachel Dagner Sent: Jun 9, 2016 9:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there with him and went through my pictures again and talked to him about all of my feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much I miss him. I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder, they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am not ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any illness, then I deal with it, because that is what you do. I am going to Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be ready, or if this is what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it won’t hurt to go meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the greatest gifts Tucker gave me is that “no cats” Harry, when I showed him a pictures of a kitty on Pet finder he said “Is that the one you want to get?” So I know now that I will never again have to live without the feel of that soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my ear. It is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to. I guess we will see what happens… From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy RobertsonSent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:59 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your fur-baby. The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even though I said I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my heart, but Topaz is easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had with Tigger or like you had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a reason to not try again, and with all the little homeless kitties, I think Tigger would have wanted me to help another kitty. Certainly take your time, but I hope you can open your heart again at some point. Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel DagnerSent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I only had him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. Emergency vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world though. He touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private cremation, so I can keep him close to me always. I was the one person in his life that he loved and adored more than anything, and he never doubted my love for him. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote:I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for you. On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker.Ardy-Original Message-From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf OfRachel DagnerSent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: [Felvtalk] TuckerI lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing dueto the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was sovery hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since.It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I misshim so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today,and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was layingon my
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
Lorrie gives you very good advice. And many rescues, and even shelters will let an older cat go on a trial basis. They will sometimes go a bit farther for an older cat, knowing there are few options. Most potential adopters want kittens. If you are very strong, consider a senior cat. They have often been loved all their lives, and when their own person dies or goes into care, for some reason there is no longer a place for them. Many have 6-8 good years left, but that is a tough choice knowing time is limited. Whatever your choice, thank you for giving another cat a soft, safe place to fall... :) Margo -Original Message- >From: Lorrie >Sent: Jun 9, 2016 10:47 AM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > >Rachel, > >You will never forget Tucker, and a new cat will not replace Tucker, >but it will soon make it's own place in your heart. >- > >I cannot imagine not having a cat to love, when I lose one. There are >so many wonderful, loving cats who desperately need a home, and if I >may offer a bit of advise from an old lady If you want to be >sure of a very affectionate, loving cat I'd suggest you pick a cat, >not a kitten. Kittens are adorable, but their personalities are not >yet formed, and you could be disappointed when the kitten grows up. >With an older cat who reaches out to you with paws extended, purring >and ready for love, you'll get the kind of cat you need and want - >Go for it! > > >Lorrie > > > > >On 06-09, Rachel Dagner wrote: >>I picked up Tucker's ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn't >>know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven't eaten since >>Sunday my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a >>couple protein shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone >>who has the misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that >>matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the >>way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and >>I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there with him and >>went through my pictures again and talked to him about all of my >>feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much I miss >>him. >> >> >>I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet >>finder, they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don't. I >>know that there is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn't trade my >>time with Tucker for anything in the world. I just know that >>emotionally and financially I am not ready for FELV again right now. If >>it happens, just like with any illness, then I deal with it, because >>that is what you do. I am going to Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to >>meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be ready, or if this is >>what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it won't hurt to go >>meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the greatest gifts Tucker >>gave me is that "no cats" Harry, when I showed him a pictures of a >>kitty on Pet finder he said "Is that the one you want to get?" So I >>know now that I will never again have to live without the feel of that >>soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my ear. It >>is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to. I >>guess we will see what happens... >> >> > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Rachel You are in my thoughts. Our little Ruthie died in my husband's arms. We also have her ashes. I will never forget her. We only had her a short time, almost two years. But she was very special. I hate FELV so much. Christine On Jun 9, 2016 7:50 AM, "Rachel Dagner" wrote: > I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t > know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday > my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein > shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the > misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of > course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I > curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a > little more at peace. I laid there with him and went through my pictures > again and talked to him about all of my feelings and my love for him, about > our memories and how much I miss him. > > > > I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder, > they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there > is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for > anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am > not ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any > illness, then I deal with it, because that is what you do. I am going to > Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I > will be ready, or if this is what I desperately need to do to help me heal, > but it won’t hurt to go meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the > greatest gifts Tucker gave me is that “no cats” Harry, when I showed him a > pictures of a kitty on Pet finder he said “Is that the one you want to > get?” So I know now that I will never again have to live without the feel > of that soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my > ear. It is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to. > I guess we will see what happens… > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Ardy Robertson > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:59 PM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your > fur-baby. The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even > though I said I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my > heart, but Topaz is easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had > with Tigger or like you had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a > reason to not try again, and with all the little homeless kitties, I think > Tigger would have wanted me to help another kitty. Certainly take your > time, but I hope you can open your heart again at some point. > > > > Ardy > > > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Rachel Dagner > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard > for me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of > my adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and > imagined him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I > only had him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. > Emergency vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world > though. He touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private > cremation, so I can keep him close to me always. I was the one person in > his life that he loved and adored more than anything, and he never doubted > my love for him. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > > I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy > memories you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're > here for you. > > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson > wrote: > > I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker. > > Ardy > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner > Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing > due > to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was > so > very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
Rachel, You will never forget Tucker, and a new cat will not replace Tucker, but it will soon make it's own place in your heart. - I cannot imagine not having a cat to love, when I lose one. There are so many wonderful, loving cats who desperately need a home, and if I may offer a bit of advise from an old lady If you want to be sure of a very affectionate, loving cat I'd suggest you pick a cat, not a kitten. Kittens are adorable, but their personalities are not yet formed, and you could be disappointed when the kitten grows up. With an older cat who reaches out to you with paws extended, purring and ready for love, you'll get the kind of cat you need and want - Go for it! Lorrie On 06-09, Rachel Dagner wrote: >I picked up Tucker's ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn't >know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven't eaten since >Sunday my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a >couple protein shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone >who has the misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that >matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the >way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and >I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there with him and >went through my pictures again and talked to him about all of my >feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much I miss >him. > > >I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet >finder, they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don't. I >know that there is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn't trade my >time with Tucker for anything in the world. I just know that >emotionally and financially I am not ready for FELV again right now. If >it happens, just like with any illness, then I deal with it, because >that is what you do. I am going to Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to >meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be ready, or if this is >what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it won't hurt to go >meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the greatest gifts Tucker >gave me is that "no cats" Harry, when I showed him a pictures of a >kitty on Pet finder he said "Is that the one you want to get?" So I >know now that I will never again have to live without the feel of that >soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my ear. It >is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to. I >guess we will see what happens... > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Rachel, That's lovely. You could try fostering or volunteering with the shelter or the cats at Petsmart. You could help some kitties along the way but not have to make any big decisions or commitments until you're ready. Of course, there's nothing quite like the excitement of officially adopting. :) Whatever you do, I'm sure Tucker would be proud. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Rachel Dagner wrote: > I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t > know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday > my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein > shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the > misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of > course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I > curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a > little more at peace. I laid there with him and went through my pictures > again and talked to him about all of my feelings and my love for him, about > our memories and how much I miss him. > > > > I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder, > they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there > is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for > anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am > not ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any > illness, then I deal with it, because that is what you do. I am going to > Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I > will be ready, or if this is what I desperately need to do to help me heal, > but it won’t hurt to go meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the > greatest gifts Tucker gave me is that “no cats” Harry, when I showed him a > pictures of a kitty on Pet finder he said “Is that the one you want to > get?” So I know now that I will never again have to live without the feel > of that soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my > ear. It is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to. > I guess we will see what happens… > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Ardy Robertson > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:59 PM > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your > fur-baby. The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even > though I said I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my > heart, but Topaz is easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had > with Tigger or like you had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a > reason to not try again, and with all the little homeless kitties, I think > Tigger would have wanted me to help another kitty. Certainly take your > time, but I hope you can open your heart again at some point. > > > > Ardy > > > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Rachel Dagner > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > > > Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard > for me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of > my adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and > imagined him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I > only had him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. > Emergency vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world > though. He touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private > cremation, so I can keep him close to me always. I was the one person in > his life that he loved and adored more than anything, and he never doubted > my love for him. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > > I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy > memories you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're > here for you. > > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson > wrote: > > I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker. > > Ardy > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner > Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing > due > to the tumor i
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there with him and went through my pictures again and talked to him about all of my feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much I miss him. I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder, they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am not ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any illness, then I deal with it, because that is what you do. I am going to Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be ready, or if this is what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it won’t hurt to go meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the greatest gifts Tucker gave me is that “no cats” Harry, when I showed him a pictures of a kitty on Pet finder he said “Is that the one you want to get?” So I know now that I will never again have to live without the feel of that soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my ear. It is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to. I guess we will see what happens… *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Ardy Robertson *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:59 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your fur-baby. The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even though I said I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my heart, but Topaz is easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had with Tigger or like you had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a reason to not try again, and with all the little homeless kitties, I think Tigger would have wanted me to help another kitty. Certainly take your time, but I hope you can open your heart again at some point. Ardy *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] *On Behalf Of *Rachel Dagner *Sent:* Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I only had him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. Emergency vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world though. He touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private cremation, so I can keep him close to me always. I was the one person in his life that he loved and adored more than anything, and he never doubted my love for him. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. wrote: I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for you. On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson wrote: I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker. Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing due to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was so very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since. It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today, and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was laying on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right now. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mail
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Ardy, Thank you. No, Topaz will never take Tigger's place, but I am very sure there is room in your heart for Topaz, as well. And it's an empty home without a cat (or two).Tigger is surely relieved that you will be taken care of...Margo-Original Message- From: Ardy Robertson Sent: Jun 8, 2016 11:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your fur-baby. The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even though I said I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my heart, but Topaz is easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had with Tigger or like you had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a reason to not try again, and with all the little homeless kitties, I think Tigger would have wanted me to help another kitty. Certainly take your time, but I hope you can open your heart again at some point. Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel DagnerSent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I only had him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. Emergency vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world though. He touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private cremation, so I can keep him close to me always. I was the one person in his life that he loved and adored more than anything, and he never doubted my love for him. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote:I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for you. On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker.Ardy-Original Message-From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf OfRachel DagnerSent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: [Felvtalk] TuckerI lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing dueto the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was sovery hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since.It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I misshim so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today,and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was layingon my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he isgone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my cardoor open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home withme. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. Iknow that those here who have gone through this understand where I am rightnow.___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your fur-baby. The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even though I said I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my heart, but Topaz is easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had with Tigger or like you had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a reason to not try again, and with all the little homeless kitties, I think Tigger would have wanted me to help another kitty. Certainly take your time, but I hope you can open your heart again at some point. Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I only had him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. Emergency vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world though. He touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private cremation, so I can keep him close to me always. I was the one person in his life that he loved and adored more than anything, and he never doubted my love for him. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. mailto:kaths...@gmail.com> > wrote: I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for you. On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson mailto:ar...@centurytel.net> > wrote: I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker. Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> ] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing due to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was so very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since. It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today, and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was laying on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right now. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have several burial sites on my ground close to the house. When I run into too much rock (live on a rocky bluff), I start a new cemetary. I have 2 dogs and 0ver 20 cats buried in my flower gardens. Rachel Dagner wrote: > Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for > me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my > adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined > him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I only had > him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. Emergency > vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world though. He > touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private cremation, so I can > keep him close to me always. I was the one person in his life that he loved > and adored more than anything, and he never doubted my love for him. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > > > > I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories > > you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for you. > > > >> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson > >> wrote: > >> I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker. > >> > >> Ardy > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > >> Rachel Dagner > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker > >> > >> I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing > >> due > >> to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was > >> so > >> very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since. > >> It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss > >> him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone > >> today, > >> and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was > >> laying > >> on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is > >> gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car > >> door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with > >> me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I > >> know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right > >> now. > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
I have been there so many times, over 20 now. You ask yourself "what more could I have done?", You did all you could, loved him, gave him food and shelter and loved him some more. I think I know how you feel, but not really, because each one is different. It will hurt for a long time and every time you think about him, you will cry, but it does get a little better as time goes by and if you are lucky, another one will come to yo in need of help and love and it starts all over again. I think that is why we are here, to provide the love and care needed by some whose needs are great. We are God's ambassadors to the animals around us. Rachel Dagner wrote: > I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing > due to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It > was so very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since. > It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss > him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone > today, and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he > was laying on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to > believe he is gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an > hour with my car door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside > and come home with me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain > is just unbearable. I know that those here who have gone through this > understand where I am right now. > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Rachel: Expected or otherwise there just never seems to be an adequate way to prepare for such a loss I am SO sorry. I can only wish you the very FAST passage of enough time to mitigate the sadness... Bob ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I only had him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. Emergency vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world though. He touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private cremation, so I can keep him close to me always. I was the one person in his life that he loved and adored more than anything, and he never doubted my love for him. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > > I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories > you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for you. > >> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson wrote: >> I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker. >> >> Ardy >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >> Rachel Dagner >> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker >> >> I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing due >> to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was so >> very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since. >> It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss >> him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today, >> and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was laying >> on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is >> gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car >> door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with >> me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I >> know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right >> now. >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for you. On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson wrote: > I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker. > > Ardy > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner > Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker > > I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing > due > to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was > so > very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since. > It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss > him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone > today, > and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was > laying > on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is > gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car > door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with > me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I > know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right > now. > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker. Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing due to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was so very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since. It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today, and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was laying on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right now. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
Rachel, I'm so, so sorry :) Life ... Sandy W - Original Message - From: "Rachel Dagner" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 10:33:13 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing due to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was so very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since. It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today, and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was laying on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right now. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
Rachel You're right. We've all been there but it doesn't ever get any easier. I had tears in my eyes, reading your email and knowing exactly what you are going through and how broken and heavy your heart feels right now. We all know, deep inside, that we did a wonderful thing for our little ones - giving them lots and lots of love and hugs. But right now, you'll be second-guessing yourself and wondering if you did the right thing. Know that you did, Rachel, and there was one less lonely, scared, hungry cat because of your commitment and your caring. Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: June-07-16 10:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing due to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was so very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since. It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today, and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was laying on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right now. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Tucker
I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing due to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was so very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since. It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today, and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was laying on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right now. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger
Sorry for your loss, not much tht can be said to ease the loss, but will keep you in my prayers. Ardy Robertson wrote: > Hi Rachel and everyone on this site, Amusing story (kind of - after the happy ending) about Tucker's Saturday morning stroll and then asking for a snack! Unfortunately, I lost my baby boy Tigger last Friday evening. I have not been able to talk much about it since then, but since you asked, and also since I have been planning to send a message about him, here goes Tigger was doing wonderfully up until about Thursday afternoon, improving every day, eating on his own, not dependent on his pain medication for nearly a month. His bloodwork was absolutely astonishing to say the least from the nearly flatline it had been! Even the pathologist at the lab put a note on his report that he re-ran the tests because he could not believe what he was seeing -- Tigg's non-regenerative leukemia was now regenerative!! Thursday evening, he didn't seem quite comfortable, and by Friday morning he did not want anything to eat and I started to worry. My husband watched him during the day on Friday and I came home early from work because I was worried. He passed away quietly at home, with us stroking him and telling him how much we love him. I am so thankful that I did not have to take him in to be put down. He did not like going to the vet at all and he was terrified of shots and needles such as blood draws. I do feel that if I had started him on the Winstrol and Prednisolone sooner, along with a diet of the Hills Prescription A/D canned food he may have made it. I also now know that had I used the antibiotic Doxycycline rather than Convenia, it may have helped to prevent the virus from replicating. There are a lot of "what ifs" and "if onlys" but I do feel wholeheartedly that the Winstrol was what kept him going from early March until now. I also know that the veterinary field offers no other alternative in my area, other than euthanization which I would not consider doing to this wonderful little orange furball who rescued us five and a half years ago. I also appreciate very much the time and effort Amani put in to help me with her experience of successfully treating an FeLV positive kitty, her expertise in interpreting lab results, and her friendship in supporting me on the roller coaster of his illness, cheering with me at his achievements, laughing with me at his antics, and finally crying with me as I lost him. For me, there will be other kitties perhaps. I do have two others, but there will never ever be anything close to another cat like our Tigger Babe. Yes, we can keep the bathroom doors open now and not have shredded TP, we can open windows and doors and not get scratch marks in the screens, we don't have to lock the door when we're gone because we are crazy cat-people and afraid he would get out and be lost, we don't have to put chairs in front of the cupboard doors so he doesn't go in them, we don't have exorbitant vet bills, but I would gladly go back to all of that to have him back. I thank everyone who commented on things to try to help him, for all your suggestions - I did try several of them. For now, I just have to remember the five wonderful years Tigger spent with us! Thank you, Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 1:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger My boyfriend accidentally let him out Saturday morning (he is one sneaky cat) and I spent an hour and a half following him around and trying to get him, tried every trick in the book, I was upset because I was just about to do his supplements when he made his escape. He stayed well out of reach chasing lizards and bugs and very much enjoying himself with no concern for my worries. I finally gave up and decided to work in the yard thinking he would get curious and I could snatch him. My neighbor comes over and asked me if I know he's out and I tell her yes and that I can't get him, that it is impossible. She says to let her try, she walks over to my door I had open for him and says come here Tucker. He walks right in the door and she closes it behind him. I think she was pretty surprised by the big hug I gave her. Then I came in and he acted as if nothing had happened and told me he would like a snack. Has anyone heard from Ardy about Tigger. I hope he is continuing to improve... -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 12:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues Hi Rachel There are TWO types of steroids. Prednisone is corticosteroid. Winstrol is an anabolic steroid. In contrast to anabolic
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger
I am so very sorry Ardy. What a blessing that he got to be at home and with his family at the end. Feline Leukemia is a hard battle to fight, and a million times harder to win. I hope that someday they do more research on Winstrol and other protocols that will help those like us in the future. Tigger was so lucky to have you as his mommy, you went above and beyond what many would do for their kitty, you fought a good fight, you should not question it for even one second. I believe with all of my heart that our spirits human and furry alike are always here with us, and that when it is our time we will all be reunited. I pray that time and all of your wonderful memories of Tigger will help to ease your pain. Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2016, at 11:31 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: > > I am still beyond heart-broken at Tigger's loss. Ardy was and is amazing - so > dedicated and loving to Tigger. As that sad and so-true saying goes, "if love > could have saved you, you would have lived forever". > > Amani > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy > Robertson > Sent: May-09-16 8:52 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger > > Hi Rachel and everyone on this site, > > Amusing story (kind of - after the happy ending) about Tucker's Saturday > morning stroll and then asking for a snack! > > Unfortunately, I lost my baby boy Tigger last Friday evening. I have not been > able to talk much about it since then, but since you asked, and also since I > have been planning to send a message about him, here goes Tigger was > doing wonderfully up until about Thursday afternoon, improving every day, > eating on his own, not dependent on his pain medication for nearly a month. > His bloodwork was absolutely astonishing to say the least from the nearly > flatline it had been! Even the pathologist at the lab put a note on his > report that he re-ran the tests because he could not believe what he was > seeing -- Tigg's non-regenerative leukemia was now regenerative!! Thursday > evening, he didn't seem quite comfortable, and by Friday morning he did not > want anything to eat and I started to worry. My husband watched him during > the day on Friday and I came home early from work because I was worried. He > passed away quietly at home, with us stroking him and telling him how much we > love him. I am so thankful that I did not have to take him in to be put down. > He did not like going to the vet at all and he was terrified of shots and > needles such as blood draws. > > I do feel that if I had started him on the Winstrol and Prednisolone sooner, > along with a diet of the Hills Prescription A/D canned food he may have made > it. I also now know that had I used the antibiotic Doxycycline rather than > Convenia, it may have helped to prevent the virus from replicating. There are > a lot of "what ifs" and "if onlys" but I do feel wholeheartedly that the > Winstrol was what kept him going from early March until now. I also know that > the veterinary field offers no other alternative in my area, other than > euthanization which I would not consider doing to this wonderful little > orange furball who rescued us five and a half years ago. > > I also appreciate very much the time and effort Amani put in to help me with > her experience of successfully treating an FeLV positive kitty, her expertise > in interpreting lab results, and her friendship in supporting me on the > roller coaster of his illness, cheering with me at his achievements, laughing > with me at his antics, and finally crying with me as I lost him. > > For me, there will be other kitties perhaps. I do have two others, but there > will never ever be anything close to another cat like our Tigger Babe. Yes, > we can keep the bathroom doors open now and not have shredded TP, we can open > windows and doors and not get scratch marks in the screens, we don't have to > lock the door when we're gone because we are crazy cat-people and afraid he > would get out and be lost, we don't have to put chairs in front of the > cupboard doors so he doesn't go in them, we don't have exorbitant vet bills, > but I would gladly go back to all of that to have him back. > > I thank everyone who commented on things to try to help him, for all your > suggestions - I did try several of them. For now, I just have to remember the > five wonderful years Tigger spent with us! > > Thank you, > Ardy > > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger
I am still beyond heart-broken at Tigger's loss. Ardy was and is amazing - so dedicated and loving to Tigger. As that sad and so-true saying goes, "if love could have saved you, you would have lived forever". Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson Sent: May-09-16 8:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger Hi Rachel and everyone on this site, Amusing story (kind of - after the happy ending) about Tucker's Saturday morning stroll and then asking for a snack! Unfortunately, I lost my baby boy Tigger last Friday evening. I have not been able to talk much about it since then, but since you asked, and also since I have been planning to send a message about him, here goes Tigger was doing wonderfully up until about Thursday afternoon, improving every day, eating on his own, not dependent on his pain medication for nearly a month. His bloodwork was absolutely astonishing to say the least from the nearly flatline it had been! Even the pathologist at the lab put a note on his report that he re-ran the tests because he could not believe what he was seeing -- Tigg's non-regenerative leukemia was now regenerative!! Thursday evening, he didn't seem quite comfortable, and by Friday morning he did not want anything to eat and I started to worry. My husband watched him during the day on Friday and I came home early from work because I was worried. He passed away quietly at home, with us stroking him and telling him how much we love him. I am so thankful that I did not have to take him in to be put down. He did not like going to the vet at all and he was terrified of shots and needles such as blood draws. I do feel that if I had started him on the Winstrol and Prednisolone sooner, along with a diet of the Hills Prescription A/D canned food he may have made it. I also now know that had I used the antibiotic Doxycycline rather than Convenia, it may have helped to prevent the virus from replicating. There are a lot of "what ifs" and "if onlys" but I do feel wholeheartedly that the Winstrol was what kept him going from early March until now. I also know that the veterinary field offers no other alternative in my area, other than euthanization which I would not consider doing to this wonderful little orange furball who rescued us five and a half years ago. I also appreciate very much the time and effort Amani put in to help me with her experience of successfully treating an FeLV positive kitty, her expertise in interpreting lab results, and her friendship in supporting me on the roller coaster of his illness, cheering with me at his achievements, laughing with me at his antics, and finally crying with me as I lost him. For me, there will be other kitties perhaps. I do have two others, but there will never ever be anything close to another cat like our Tigger Babe. Yes, we can keep the bathroom doors open now and not have shredded TP, we can open windows and doors and not get scratch marks in the screens, we don't have to lock the door when we're gone because we are crazy cat-people and afraid he would get out and be lost, we don't have to put chairs in front of the cupboard doors so he doesn't go in them, we don't have exorbitant vet bills, but I would gladly go back to all of that to have him back. I thank everyone who commented on things to try to help him, for all your suggestions - I did try several of them. For now, I just have to remember the five wonderful years Tigger spent with us! Thank you, Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 1:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger My boyfriend accidentally let him out Saturday morning (he is one sneaky cat) and I spent an hour and a half following him around and trying to get him, tried every trick in the book, I was upset because I was just about to do his supplements when he made his escape. He stayed well out of reach chasing lizards and bugs and very much enjoying himself with no concern for my worries. I finally gave up and decided to work in the yard thinking he would get curious and I could snatch him. My neighbor comes over and asked me if I know he's out and I tell her yes and that I can't get him, that it is impossible. She says to let her try, she walks over to my door I had open for him and says come here Tucker. He walks right in the door and she closes it behind him. I think she was pretty surprised by the big hug I gave her. Then I came in and he acted as if nothing had happened and told me he would like a snack. Has anyone heard from Ardy about Tigger. I hope he is continuing to improve... -Original Message- From:
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger
Hi Rachel and everyone on this site, Amusing story (kind of - after the happy ending) about Tucker's Saturday morning stroll and then asking for a snack! Unfortunately, I lost my baby boy Tigger last Friday evening. I have not been able to talk much about it since then, but since you asked, and also since I have been planning to send a message about him, here goes Tigger was doing wonderfully up until about Thursday afternoon, improving every day, eating on his own, not dependent on his pain medication for nearly a month. His bloodwork was absolutely astonishing to say the least from the nearly flatline it had been! Even the pathologist at the lab put a note on his report that he re-ran the tests because he could not believe what he was seeing -- Tigg's non-regenerative leukemia was now regenerative!! Thursday evening, he didn't seem quite comfortable, and by Friday morning he did not want anything to eat and I started to worry. My husband watched him during the day on Friday and I came home early from work because I was worried. He passed away quietly at home, with us stroking him and telling him how much we love him. I am so thankful that I did not have to take him in to be put down. He did not like going to the vet at all and he was terrified of shots and needles such as blood draws. I do feel that if I had started him on the Winstrol and Prednisolone sooner, along with a diet of the Hills Prescription A/D canned food he may have made it. I also now know that had I used the antibiotic Doxycycline rather than Convenia, it may have helped to prevent the virus from replicating. There are a lot of "what ifs" and "if onlys" but I do feel wholeheartedly that the Winstrol was what kept him going from early March until now. I also know that the veterinary field offers no other alternative in my area, other than euthanization which I would not consider doing to this wonderful little orange furball who rescued us five and a half years ago. I also appreciate very much the time and effort Amani put in to help me with her experience of successfully treating an FeLV positive kitty, her expertise in interpreting lab results, and her friendship in supporting me on the roller coaster of his illness, cheering with me at his achievements, laughing with me at his antics, and finally crying with me as I lost him. For me, there will be other kitties perhaps. I do have two others, but there will never ever be anything close to another cat like our Tigger Babe. Yes, we can keep the bathroom doors open now and not have shredded TP, we can open windows and doors and not get scratch marks in the screens, we don't have to lock the door when we're gone because we are crazy cat-people and afraid he would get out and be lost, we don't have to put chairs in front of the cupboard doors so he doesn't go in them, we don't have exorbitant vet bills, but I would gladly go back to all of that to have him back. I thank everyone who commented on things to try to help him, for all your suggestions - I did try several of them. For now, I just have to remember the five wonderful years Tigger spent with us! Thank you, Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 1:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger My boyfriend accidentally let him out Saturday morning (he is one sneaky cat) and I spent an hour and a half following him around and trying to get him, tried every trick in the book, I was upset because I was just about to do his supplements when he made his escape. He stayed well out of reach chasing lizards and bugs and very much enjoying himself with no concern for my worries. I finally gave up and decided to work in the yard thinking he would get curious and I could snatch him. My neighbor comes over and asked me if I know he's out and I tell her yes and that I can't get him, that it is impossible. She says to let her try, she walks over to my door I had open for him and says come here Tucker. He walks right in the door and she closes it behind him. I think she was pretty surprised by the big hug I gave her. Then I came in and he acted as if nothing had happened and told me he would like a snack. Has anyone heard from Ardy about Tigger. I hope he is continuing to improve... -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 12:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues Hi Rachel There are TWO types of steroids. Prednisone is corticosteroid. Winstrol is an anabolic steroid. In contrast to anabolic steroids, corticosteroids like Prednisone are used in inflammatory condition to reduce inflammation. They start acting quickly and th
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger
Cats. You gotta love them! Ouch on your broken arm, that makes EVERYTHING more difficult. Ugh. -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 3:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Rachel Dagner Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger How many times has someone gotten out and I spent hours wandering up and down the road calling, hoping and prying, no results. I come in, give up and then notice the culprit standing at the window scratching at it and meowing, acting like i had pushed them out and refused to let them in. At this point, I do not know if I should punish them or pick them up and love the life out of them. Dee did this the other day and she never runs of, always wants back in within 1/2 hour. And me with a broken arm, having to use a cane! I wanted to kill her but was so glad she was back home all I could do was hug her. Rachel Dagner wrote: > My boyfriend accidentally let him out Saturday morning (he is one > sneaky cat) and I spent an hour and a half following him around and trying to get him, tried every trick in the book, I was upset because I was just about to do his supplements when he made his escape. He stayed well out of reach chasing lizards and bugs and very much enjoying himself with no concern for my worries. I finally gave up and decided to work in the yard thinking he would get curious and I could snatch him. My neighbor comes over and asked me if I know he's out and I tell her yes and that I can't get him, that it is impossible. She says to let her try, she walks over to my door I had open for him and says come here Tucker. He walks right in the door and she closes it behind him. I think she was pretty surprised by the big hug I gave her. Then I came in and he acted as if nothing had happened and told me he would like a snack. Has anyone heard from Ardy about Tigger. I hope he is continuing to improve... -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 12:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues Hi Rachel There are TWO types of steroids. Prednisone is corticosteroid. Winstrol is an anabolic steroid. In contrast to anabolic steroids, corticosteroids like Prednisone are used in inflammatory condition to reduce inflammation. They start acting quickly and they reduce inflammation and tamp down the immune system. Anabolic steroids, like Winstrol, on the other hand, build muscle and tissue, speed up healing, increase appetite and strength, and are also used in humans (and cats) to up red cell production in profound anemia. Unlike prednisone, Winstrol does not damp down the immune system. Using the two together works well in cats, and one thing about cats - they have a VERY different responses to steroids than humans and dogs. Cats have a very good response to prednisone and they do not suffer most of the side effects one sees in people and dogs and you don’t need to be nearly as careful in with the use of corticosteroids in cats (especially the need to gradually taper them off as you do with people and dogs). Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: May-06-16 11:57 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues Yes, he is on a long acting prednisone right now due to the lymphoma, my vet (not holistic) has always cringed when we put him steroids because they say it has bad side effects to begin with, and with FELV it suppresses the immune system, yes I know, completely contradictory to what your experience with steroids has been. One of the three parts of his Vitality Science protocol is an herbal anti-inflammatory that I give him twice a day one hour after the other treatments. I also put him on NVH Tripsy which a lot of positive reviews for UTIs and crystals. But definitely if I notice even the smallest amount of urination problems I will take your advice and discuss with my vet keeping him on it long term. I also have metacam at home in my arsenal of just in case of a urinary issue from my vet, it is a non steroidal anti-inflammatory. My vet cringes about that to, I think because they feel it is not as safe in cats as it is in dogs... -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 11:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues Rachel I think you mentioned before that you had had Tucker on prednisone, and if you haven’t, then my suggestion would be having him on that for sure, on an ongoing basis. Sounds like one of the problems is that the area may be inflamed and thus, the whole blocks up again and again. Keeping the swelling down with prednisone may be effective. This wouldn’t requir
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger
How many times has someone gotten out and I spent hours wandering up and down the road calling, hoping and prying, no results. I come in, give up and then notice the culprit standing at the window scratching at it and meowing, acting like i had pushed them out and refused to let them in. At this point, I do not know if I should punish them or pick them up and love the life out of them. Dee did this the other day and she never runs of, always wants back in within 1/2 hour. And me with a broken arm, having to use a cane! I wanted to kill her but was so glad she was back home all I could do was hug her. Rachel Dagner wrote: > My boyfriend accidentally let him out Saturday morning (he is one sneaky cat) and I spent an hour and a half following him around and trying to get him, tried every trick in the book, I was upset because I was just about to do his supplements when he made his escape. He stayed well out of reach chasing lizards and bugs and very much enjoying himself with no concern for my worries. I finally gave up and decided to work in the yard thinking he would get curious and I could snatch him. My neighbor comes over and asked me if I know he's out and I tell her yes and that I can't get him, that it is impossible. She says to let her try, she walks over to my door I had open for him and says come here Tucker. He walks right in the door and she closes it behind him. I think she was pretty surprised by the big hug I gave her. Then I came in and he acted as if nothing had happened and told me he would like a snack. Has anyone heard from Ardy about Tigger. I hope he is continuing to improve... -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 12:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues Hi Rachel There are TWO types of steroids. Prednisone is corticosteroid. Winstrol is an anabolic steroid. In contrast to anabolic steroids, corticosteroids like Prednisone are used in inflammatory condition to reduce inflammation. They start acting quickly and they reduce inflammation and tamp down the immune system. Anabolic steroids, like Winstrol, on the other hand, build muscle and tissue, speed up healing, increase appetite and strength, and are also used in humans (and cats) to up red cell production in profound anemia. Unlike prednisone, Winstrol does not damp down the immune system. Using the two together works well in cats, and one thing about cats - they have a VERY different responses to steroids than humans and dogs. Cats have a very good response to prednisone and they do not suffer most of the side effects one sees in people and dogs and you don’t need to be nearly as careful in with the use of corticosteroids in cats (especially the need to gradually taper them off as you do with people and dogs). Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: May-06-16 11:57 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues Yes, he is on a long acting prednisone right now due to the lymphoma, my vet (not holistic) has always cringed when we put him steroids because they say it has bad side effects to begin with, and with FELV it suppresses the immune system, yes I know, completely contradictory to what your experience with steroids has been. One of the three parts of his Vitality Science protocol is an herbal anti-inflammatory that I give him twice a day one hour after the other treatments. I also put him on NVH Tripsy which a lot of positive reviews for UTIs and crystals. But definitely if I notice even the smallest amount of urination problems I will take your advice and discuss with my vet keeping him on it long term. I also have metacam at home in my arsenal of just in case of a urinary issue from my vet, it is a non steroidal anti-inflammatory. My vet cringes about that to, I think because they feel it is not as safe in cats as it is in dogs... -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 11:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues Rachel I think you mentioned before that you had had Tucker on prednisone, and if you haven’t, then my suggestion would be having him on that for sure, on an ongoing basis. Sounds like one of the problems is that the area may be inflamed and thus, the whole blocks up again and again. Keeping the swelling down with prednisone may be effective. This wouldn’t require you to discontinue the holistic or alternative therapies. Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: May-06-16 9:21 AM To: Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless Yes, it was that grou
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger
You are the first one I have heard from for a couple of days. Rachel Dagner wrote: > My boyfriend accidentally let him out Saturday morning (he is one sneaky cat) and I spent an hour and a half following him around and trying to get him, tried every trick in the book, I was upset because I was just about to do his supplements when he made his escape. He stayed well out of reach chasing lizards and bugs and very much enjoying himself with no concern for my worries. I finally gave up and decided to work in the yard thinking he would get curious and I could snatch him. My neighbor comes over and asked me if I know he's out and I tell her yes and that I can't get him, that it is impossible. She says to let her try, she walks over to my door I had open for him and says come here Tucker. He walks right in the door and she closes it behind him. I think she was pretty surprised by the big hug I gave her. Then I came in and he acted as if nothing had happened and told me he would like a snack. Has anyone heard from Ardy about Tigger. I hope he is continuing to improve... -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 12:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues Hi Rachel There are TWO types of steroids. Prednisone is corticosteroid. Winstrol is an anabolic steroid. In contrast to anabolic steroids, corticosteroids like Prednisone are used in inflammatory condition to reduce inflammation. They start acting quickly and they reduce inflammation and tamp down the immune system. Anabolic steroids, like Winstrol, on the other hand, build muscle and tissue, speed up healing, increase appetite and strength, and are also used in humans (and cats) to up red cell production in profound anemia. Unlike prednisone, Winstrol does not damp down the immune system. Using the two together works well in cats, and one thing about cats - they have a VERY different responses to steroids than humans and dogs. Cats have a very good response to prednisone and they do not suffer most of the side effects one sees in people and dogs and you don’t need to be nearly as careful in with the use of corticosteroids in cats (especially the need to gradually taper them off as you do with people and dogs). Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: May-06-16 11:57 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues Yes, he is on a long acting prednisone right now due to the lymphoma, my vet (not holistic) has always cringed when we put him steroids because they say it has bad side effects to begin with, and with FELV it suppresses the immune system, yes I know, completely contradictory to what your experience with steroids has been. One of the three parts of his Vitality Science protocol is an herbal anti-inflammatory that I give him twice a day one hour after the other treatments. I also put him on NVH Tripsy which a lot of positive reviews for UTIs and crystals. But definitely if I notice even the smallest amount of urination problems I will take your advice and discuss with my vet keeping him on it long term. I also have metacam at home in my arsenal of just in case of a urinary issue from my vet, it is a non steroidal anti-inflammatory. My vet cringes about that to, I think because they feel it is not as safe in cats as it is in dogs... -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 11:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues Rachel I think you mentioned before that you had had Tucker on prednisone, and if you haven’t, then my suggestion would be having him on that for sure, on an ongoing basis. Sounds like one of the problems is that the area may be inflamed and thus, the whole blocks up again and again. Keeping the swelling down with prednisone may be effective. This wouldn’t require you to discontinue the holistic or alternative therapies. Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: May-06-16 9:21 AM To: Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless Yes, it was that group, and they continued to make me feel horrible even after I tried to explain my circumstances, and why I was trying something else. I was told over and over flat out that holistic does not work and my cat would die soon. If my situation with Tucker was different I would have done chemo, I would never tell someone not to do chemo on their pet. Even if someone said they would do nothing at all "palliative care" I would support them, as it is so painful to lose an animal no matter what you choose. I pray every day that I am giving Tucker QOL and that he
Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger
My boyfriend accidentally let him out Saturday morning (he is one sneaky cat) and I spent an hour and a half following him around and trying to get him, tried every trick in the book, I was upset because I was just about to do his supplements when he made his escape. He stayed well out of reach chasing lizards and bugs and very much enjoying himself with no concern for my worries. I finally gave up and decided to work in the yard thinking he would get curious and I could snatch him. My neighbor comes over and asked me if I know he's out and I tell her yes and that I can't get him, that it is impossible. She says to let her try, she walks over to my door I had open for him and says come here Tucker. He walks right in the door and she closes it behind him. I think she was pretty surprised by the big hug I gave her. Then I came in and he acted as if nothing had happened and told me he would like a snack. Has anyone heard from Ardy about Tigger. I hope he is continuing to improve... -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 12:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues Hi Rachel There are TWO types of steroids. Prednisone is corticosteroid. Winstrol is an anabolic steroid. In contrast to anabolic steroids, corticosteroids like Prednisone are used in inflammatory condition to reduce inflammation. They start acting quickly and they reduce inflammation and tamp down the immune system. Anabolic steroids, like Winstrol, on the other hand, build muscle and tissue, speed up healing, increase appetite and strength, and are also used in humans (and cats) to up red cell production in profound anemia. Unlike prednisone, Winstrol does not damp down the immune system. Using the two together works well in cats, and one thing about cats - they have a VERY different responses to steroids than humans and dogs. Cats have a very good response to prednisone and they do not suffer most of the side effects one sees in people and dogs and you don’t need to be nearly as careful in with the use of corticosteroids in cats (especially the need to gradually taper them off as you do with people and dogs). Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: May-06-16 11:57 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues Yes, he is on a long acting prednisone right now due to the lymphoma, my vet (not holistic) has always cringed when we put him steroids because they say it has bad side effects to begin with, and with FELV it suppresses the immune system, yes I know, completely contradictory to what your experience with steroids has been. One of the three parts of his Vitality Science protocol is an herbal anti-inflammatory that I give him twice a day one hour after the other treatments. I also put him on NVH Tripsy which a lot of positive reviews for UTIs and crystals. But definitely if I notice even the smallest amount of urination problems I will take your advice and discuss with my vet keeping him on it long term. I also have metacam at home in my arsenal of just in case of a urinary issue from my vet, it is a non steroidal anti-inflammatory. My vet cringes about that to, I think because they feel it is not as safe in cats as it is in dogs... -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 11:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues Rachel I think you mentioned before that you had had Tucker on prednisone, and if you haven’t, then my suggestion would be having him on that for sure, on an ongoing basis. Sounds like one of the problems is that the area may be inflamed and thus, the whole blocks up again and again. Keeping the swelling down with prednisone may be effective. This wouldn’t require you to discontinue the holistic or alternative therapies. Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: May-06-16 9:21 AM To: Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless Yes, it was that group, and they continued to make me feel horrible even after I tried to explain my circumstances, and why I was trying something else. I was told over and over flat out that holistic does not work and my cat would die soon. If my situation with Tucker was different I would have done chemo, I would never tell someone not to do chemo on their pet. Even if someone said they would do nothing at all "palliative care" I would support them, as it is so painful to lose an animal no matter what you choose. I pray every day that I am giving Tucker QOL and that he defies the odds and lasts as long as he would have with Chemo. My parents did (very expensive