Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-08 Thread Terri Brown
I always mixed mine.  As long as my negative was vaccinated, I didn't worry.  
All my FeLV+ babies are gone now, but the negatives are still negative.  It's 
been over 5 years since we lost our last FeLV+ cat.  Salome' was 9-1/2 when she 
died in 2005.

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  Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me


  My Husband I are in a similar position. We just adopted a kitten from the 
pound who had been feral before that and she ended up being FeLV+. We have two 
other cats and they hadn't had any other contact before the positive test and 
since the test we have continued to keep them separated. Euthanizing was never 
even an option in our minds. She is such a healthy happy kitten it just didn't 
make sense. We are currently in the process of vaccinating our other two cats. 
But despite the vaccination out vet advised not letting them have any contact 
with the kitten ever. We planned on keeping them in separate rooms forever. Now 
seeing what John just wrote we wondering how often it is that people interact 
their FeLV+ cats with non infected cats and never see their other cats get 
infected.  


  Good luck with your kitten. She will be a wonderful addition to your family. 
:) 




  On Nov 7, 2011, at 4:02 PM, john pollack wrote:


If the kitten is healthy, do not put it down. FeLV cats can live good 
lives. My Tigger is almost 5 now. Had been healthy for the whole time, until 
last month when he developed stomach cancer. He is still here, doing fine now. 
Also, have 5 other cats. had them vaccinated, and to this day, none are FeLV+




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I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the cat 
in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said it seemed healthy.  It does 
seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the sweetest cat, loving and 
intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I haven't had time to read 
all archives but I work from home and also take care of my bedridden elderly 
mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind enough to give me some advice? 
Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it just says positive the vet 
estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.

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[Felvtalk] More on Jack, the cat.

2011-11-08 Thread Natalie
Knowing that this was completely avoidable, just makes this that much more
heartbreaking.  

 

 
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[Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread Susan Ang
My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline
Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a
beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had
almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very
long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list
in 2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV
owners. I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge
over the years - even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the
list. She was precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal
pizza. My home will be so empty without her. I love you, baby girl.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread MaiMaiPG
Autumn left this world as a precious, loved and cared for being.  That  
is so wonderful.  She remains with you even though you can't see  her  
and will visit you when the time is right.  It may be as you sleep,  
when you are the most open to her, but don't dismiss it as a dream and  
enjoy every second of it.



On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Susan Ang wrote:

My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from  
Feline Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a  
joy to us, a beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't  
believe she's gone. I had almost fooled myself into believing that I  
might get to keep her for a very long time, but the disease won. We  
are grief-stricken.  I joined this list in 2007 after searching  
everywhere for information and support for FELV owners. I'm so glad  
it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge over the years  
- even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the list.  
She was precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal  
pizza. My home will be so empty without her. I love you, baby girl.

~Susan Ang
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Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread Marta Gasper
Oh Susan I'm so very, very sorry! Autumn was lucky to live and be loved at your 
home. I've had one cat die of FeLV and seen other 3 that were my ferals be 
stricken the same way. Right now we've Tiger who I adopted out and had to bring 
back because owner couldn't care for him, he's also FeLV+ and at the point of 
no return though he's a happy cat.
FeLV is so frustrating and takes them when they are young many times. Sweet 
Autumn is looking over you. RIP Autumn
Marta


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From: Susan Ang sea7...@gmail.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, November 8, 2011, 12:33 PM


My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline 
Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a 
beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had 
almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very 
long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list in 
2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV owners. 
I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge over the years 
- even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the list. She was 
precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal pizza. My home will be 
so empty without her. I love you, baby girl. 
~Susan Ang

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Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread Terri Brown
Goodnight, sweet Autumn...

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  From: Susan Angmailto:sea7...@gmail.com 
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 7:33 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat


  My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline 
Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a 
beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had 
almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very 
long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list in 
2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV owners. 
I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge over the years 
- even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the list. She was 
precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal pizza. My home will be 
so empty without her. I love you, baby girl. 
  ~Susan Ang
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Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread Beth
I am so sorry for your loss, Susan, but so happy you had 4 wonderful years with 
a loving, sweet soul.

Beth

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Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 7:33 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat


My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline 
Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a 
beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had 
almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very 
long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list in 
2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV owners. 
I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge over the years 
- even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the list. She was 
precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal pizza. My home will be 
so empty without her. I love you, baby girl. 
~Susan Ang

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Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread Edna Taylor

Susan, I am so sorry for your loss :(
 
Edna
 



Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 06:33:49 -0600
From: sea7...@gmail.com
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline 
Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a 
beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had 
almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very 
long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list in 
2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV owners. 
I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge over the years 
- even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the list. She was 
precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal pizza. My home will be 
so empty without her. I love you, baby girl. 
~Susan Ang

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Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread Marcia
I'm so sorry Susan, so sorry she's gone and so sorry for your pain.  They 
become so much a part of our lives, that when they're gone, a big part of us go 
with them. Bury her in your heart.

Take care
Marcia

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On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Susan Ang sea7...@gmail.com wrote:

 My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline 
 Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a 
 beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had 
 almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very 
 long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list in 
 2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV owners. 
 I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge over the 
 years - even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the list. She 
 was precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal pizza. My home 
 will be so empty without her. I love you, baby girl. 
 ~Susan Ang
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Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread Marcia
This is so true, I know that Fletch is here with me. I miss him so.

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On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:57 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:

 Autumn left this world as a precious, loved and cared for being.  That is so 
 wonderful.  She remains with you even though you can't see  her and will 
 visit you when the time is right.  It may be as you sleep, when you are the 
 most open to her, but don't dismiss it as a dream and enjoy every second of 
 it.
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Susan Ang wrote:
 
 My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline 
 Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a 
 beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had 
 almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very 
 long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list 
 in 2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV 
 owners. I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge 
 over the years - even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the 
 list. She was precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal 
 pizza. My home will be so empty without her. I love you, baby girl.
 ~Susan Ang
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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-08 Thread Marcia
My cat Fletch was with 3 other adult cats for a year. They had never been 
vaccinated for felv and the bet said that Fletch was born with it. So they were 
exposed unknowingly for a full year, and they all tested negative.   So I 
believe like everyone else here, it's not spread as easily as everyone thinks,  
bless you for taking care of this little life(-:

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On Nov 7, 2011, at 5:52 PM, dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
 abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
 have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
 healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. 
 Other than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this 
 kitten.  In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would 
 understand if I euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false 
 positive and whether retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has 
 hookworms.  When I took the cat in, she suggested that I give it its 
 vaccinations before waiting for test results.  I asked if the cat turned out 
 postitive, wouldn't this harm its immune system.  she said no.  Now when she 
 called she said she was surprised that the cat tested positive since, other 
 than the sore gums, which she attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said 
 it seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
 sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry 
 I haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also take 
 care of my bedridden elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind 
 enough to give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it 
 just says positive the vet estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.
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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-08 Thread Jannes Taylor
Please do not give up hope. Wait the three months and have her tested again. I 
rescued a cat who was approx 3 years old who also tested positive. Three months 
later she tested negative. I also had an IFA test done on her which also came 
out negative. The vet eluded to me having her put to sleep after she tested 
positive but my intuition say no! This was back in March. Today she is a 
healthy, happy, 8 lb cat who bullies the other cats who are twice her 
size.LOL... She is also very loving and such a joy in our lives. They can clear 
this disease from their system or the test could be wrong. Please wait and have 
her tested again.


Jannes 



From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me


There are holistic remedies for the gum issues.  That was the only sign Dixie 
showedask questions and seek information.  A lot of emails get chopped 
because they are too long to post---someone else can explain this.    

On Nov 7, 2011, at 7:33 PM, dppl dppl wrote:

 
thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will review 
all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails.  I see my 
post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice.  I 
guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get the 
other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am worried 
about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet attributed 
it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the positive test 
results.




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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me


I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the 
cat in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said
 it seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I 
haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also take care 
of my bedridden elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind enough 
to give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it just says 
positive the vet estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread Lynda Wilson
Susan,

So sorry to hear of Autumn's passing!! I'm so glad though that you loved and 
cared for her like you did.  It takes someone like you with a big heart that 
gave her a chance at life and a good life even though it was cut too short.  My 
kitten passed at age 9mos. I was heart-broken as well.  I wish there was a cure 
for this disease.  Until then, we just have to continue to give them the best 
life possible, just as you did!

By the way, I have an Autumn girl but she is a red dachshund. She turns 14 
Christmas Eve. We love her dearly and I so love the name as you do.

Many blessings  hugs to you~

Lynda
  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 6:33 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat


  My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline 
Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a 
beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had 
almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very 
long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list in 
2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV owners. 
I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge over the years 
- even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the list. She was 
precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal pizza. My home will be 
so empty without her. I love you, baby girl. 
  ~Susan Ang



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Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Susan

I'm so sorry for your loss of your precious cat, Autumn.  I bet she was
orange.  I once had an orange Autumn, too.

Sound like you and she were very bonded and shared a lot.  I'm sure you made
her life better.and she returned the favor.

May your good memories help heal the pain of loss, and may you have a
lifetime of wonderful cats!

~Bonnie

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Ang
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 4:34 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

 

My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline
Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a
beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had
almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very
long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list
in 2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV
owners. I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge
over the years - even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the
list. She was precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal
pizza. My home will be so empty without her. I love you, baby girl. 
~Susan Ang

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Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread Lee Evans
My two FeLv/FIV+ cats Taco and Smooch have passed over this year.  I was 
heartbroken.  But then I realized how wonderful it was that people like us give 
these deserving little cats all the life they can sustain and don't turn our 
backs on them because they were unlucky enough to have these afflictions.  Taco 
and Smooch were both healthy, fat and happy until a month before they passed.  
Smooch held on a few weeks after Taco but I think Taco called to him that it 
was better on the other side and Smooch left.  


Lee




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Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

This is so true, I know that Fletch is here with me. I miss him so.

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On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:57 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:

 Autumn left this world as a precious, loved and cared for being.  That is so 
 wonderful.  She remains with you even though you can't see  her and will 
 visit you when the time is right.  It may be as you sleep, when you are the 
 most open to her, but don't dismiss it as a dream and enjoy every second of 
 it.
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Susan Ang wrote:
 
 My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline 
 Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a 
 beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had 
 almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very 
 long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list 
 in 2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV 
 owners. I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge 
 over the years - even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the 
 list. She was precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal 
 pizza. My home will be so empty without her. I love you, baby girl.
 ~Susan Ang
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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me/ flow charts for testing

2011-11-08 Thread dppl dppl
I'm sorry I haven't figured out how to reply to specific threads, maybe because 
I receive a digest instead of each post.  I'm using this site 
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org to 
access the threads.  If someone can point me in the right direction about how 
to properly use this site I would appreciate it. I'm sure it is somewhere in 
the intro msg but I'm not thinking too clearly.  When I have a sick animal, I 
get very upset.  Anyway, I wanted to throw out what the vet who diagnosed this 
stray kitten using a elise test that was sent to a lab (not done at her office) 
 told me today..  She said she called to find the latest protocols about 
retesting and said that one way is to wait 30 days and repeat the test but the 
other way is to do an IFA now and I would know once and for all if the kitten 
is truely positive. I questioned her about what I was reading on the internet 
about waiting a longer period to see if the
 cat reverts or sheds, but she said this is what she was told is the latest 
protocol.   I did read some of you about your cats coming back negative after 
retesting and this gave me hope.
 
  Mitt (for Mittens) b/c he has them is eating well and his bad breath went 
away I guess from the antibiotics he is on. but tonight I saw he has 
dandruff/scaling in his fur on the outer ear.  Now I fear he does have a 
compromised immune system and a skin disease.  So I am bringing him back to the 
vet on thurs to get this IFA test and for her to look at the skin and tell me 
what it is.   I'm not sure I can handle a chronically ill cat again.  I took 
care of one of my older cats in the final stages of  kidney failure for a year, 
including giving fluids but there was no issue of keeping separate and fear of 
spreading illnesses to my other cats.  My remaining  4 cats were former 
strays/ferals that were over a year old when i took them in. I got them 
sterilized but never kept up on shots and testing  b/c I kept them inside and 
figured since they all lived outside more or less together if they had 
something they all probably had it by then.  I've
 had them all over 11 years.  I have yet to find a really good vet where I 
live. Most just push vaccinations and flea treatments. Most don't deal with 
stray cats. I've been calling around cat rescues and those that take positive 
cats are full and apparently the protocol here is that when they bring in 
strays/ferals to be sterilzied, they give them a SNAP test (is that an elise 
test) and if they test positive, they euthanize them apparently b/c they will 
not return them to the colonies to spread the disease. So most don't have 
experience treating cats with this illness. 
 
Anyway, thanks to anyone who made it thru this msg and has any further comment.



From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: stray kitten positive any advice for me


 
thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will review 
all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails.  I see my 
post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice.  I 
guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get the 
other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am worried 
about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet attributed 
it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the positive test 
results.



From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me


I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the cat 
in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said it
 seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I 
haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and 

Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me/ flow charts for testing

2011-11-08 Thread Marcia
I guess the fact of the matter is, is that your kitten can live a very healthy 
life. If she tests positive, it doesn't necessarily  mean that she will be 
chronically ill. I really think that good nutrition also plays an enormous role 
in keeping them healthy. It's a very tough decision.  I feel for you. Best of 
luck to you and your little one.
Marcia

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:07 PM, dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm sorry I haven't figured out how to reply to specific threads, maybe 
 because I receive a digest instead of each post.  I'm using this site 
 http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org to 
 access the threads.  If someone can point me in the right direction about how 
 to properly use this site I would appreciate it. I'm sure it is somewhere in 
 the intro msg but I'm not thinking too clearly.  When I have a sick animal, I 
 get very upset.  Anyway, I wanted to throw out what the vet who diagnosed 
 this stray kitten using a elise test that was sent to a lab (not done at her 
 office)  told me today..  She said she called to find the latest protocols 
 about retesting and said that one way is to wait 30 days and repeat the test 
 but the other way is to do an IFA now and I would know once and for all if 
 the kitten is truely positive. I questioned her about what I was reading on 
 the internet about waiting a longer period to see if the cat reverts or 
 sheds, but she said this is what she was told is the latest protocol.   I did 
 read some of you about your cats coming back negative after retesting and 
 this gave me hope.
  
   Mitt (for Mittens) b/c he has them is eating well and his bad breath went 
 away I guess from the antibiotics he is on. but tonight I saw he has 
 dandruff/scaling in his fur on the outer ear.  Now I fear he does have a 
 compromised immune system and a skin disease.  So I am bringing him back to 
 the vet on thurs to get this IFA test and for her to look at the skin and 
 tell me what it is.   I'm not sure I can handle a chronically ill cat again.  
 I took care of one of my older cats in the final stages of  kidney failure 
 for a year, including giving fluids but there was no issue of keeping 
 separate and fear of spreading illnesses to my other cats.  My remaining  4 
 cats were former strays/ferals that were over a year old when i took them in. 
 I got them sterilized but never kept up on shots and testing  b/c I kept them 
 inside and figured since they all lived outside more or less together if they 
 had something they all probably had it by then.  I've had them all over 11 
 years.  I have yet to find a really good vet where I live. Most just push 
 vaccinations and flea treatments. Most don't deal with stray cats. I've been 
 calling around cat rescues and those that take positive cats are full and 
 apparently the protocol here is that when they bring in strays/ferals to be 
 sterilzied, they give them a SNAP test (is that an elise test) and if they 
 test positive, they euthanize them apparently b/c they will not return them 
 to the colonies to spread the disease. So most don't have experience treating 
 cats with this illness.
  
 Anyway, thanks to anyone who made it thru this msg and has any further 
 comment.
 
 From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33 PM
 Subject: Re: stray kitten positive any advice for me
 
  
 thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will review 
 all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails.  I see 
 my post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice. 
  I guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get 
 the other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am 
 worried about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet 
 attributed it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the 
 positive test results.
 
 From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
 Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me
 
 I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
 abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
 have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
 healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. 
 Other than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this 
 kitten.  In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would 
 understand if I euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false 
 positive and whether retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has 
 hookworms.  When I took the cat in, she suggested that I give it its 
 vaccinations before waiting for test results.  I asked if the cat turned out 
 postitive, 

Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Sweet story, Lee.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 2:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

 

My two FeLv/FIV+ cats Taco and Smooch have passed over this year.  I was
heartbroken.  But then I realized how wonderful it was that people like us
give these deserving little cats all the life they can sustain and don't
turn our backs on them because they were unlucky enough to have these
afflictions.  Taco and Smooch were both healthy, fat and happy until a month
before they passed.  Smooch held on a few weeks after Taco but I think Taco
called to him that it was better on the other side and Smooch left.  

 

Lee

 

  _  

From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

This is so true, I know that Fletch is here with me. I miss him so.

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On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:57 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:

 Autumn left this world as a precious, loved and cared for being.  That is
so wonderful.  She remains with you even though you can't see  her and will
visit you when the time is right.  It may be as you sleep, when you are the
most open to her, but don't dismiss it as a dream and enjoy every second of
it.
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Susan Ang wrote:
 
 My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline
Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a
beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had
almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very
long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list
in 2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV
owners. I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge
over the years - even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the
list. She was precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal
pizza. My home will be so empty without her. I love you, baby girl.
 ~Susan Ang
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Re: [Felvtalk] Sad news - Jack, the cat, dies

2011-11-08 Thread dlgegg
If I do travel, I will drive my van and take all 7 of my babies with me.  If I 
mve across te country, I will get a big rv and keep them with me.  Sorry, I 
just do not trust anyone else to take good care of them like I do.  
I am sorry about Jack, I am sure his owner thought he would be in good hands 
and I am sure he feels very badly about it all.
Good to hear about Continental, will keep that info handy.


 Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: 
 
 I have also used Continental several times to transport cats and I have never 
 had a problem.  My heart goes out to Jack and his Meowmy :(  RIP little man :(
  
 
 
 
 From: ti...@mindspring.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:12:32 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sad news - Jack, the cat, dies
 
 
 
 
 
 
 The airlines just keep shooting themselves in the foot  animals suffer!  If 
 only they would realize that there is this HUGE market out there for 
 travelers who want to travel with their pet.  Why not take a couple of 
 flights a week on major routes  have a couple of planes where animals of all 
 sizes can be kept in cabin in crates.  I do, however, have to put a plug in 
 for Continental—while I’m sure they’re not perfect, I’ve worked with a couple 
 of shelters and we used them many times to transport animals to their 
 adopters many miles away.  We’ve never had a problem…
  
 
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
 Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:06 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Sad news - Jack, the cat, dies
  
 http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/jack-cat-disappeared-jfk-airport-miraculously-reappearing-dies-5-article-1.973107
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-08 Thread dlgegg
My positives were at least 1 year old when they came to me.  My vet said you 
have a choice, keep them or put them to sleep.  He said he has seen many live 
long and healthy lives and so far mine have.  They share my house with 5 
negatives ranging in age from 1 and 1/2years to 13.  The negatives get their 
vaccinations very year and so far everyone is healthy, happy and sassy.

 Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 I always mixed mine.  As long as my negative was vaccinated, I didn't worry.  
 All my FeLV+ babies are gone now, but the negatives are still negative.  It's 
 been over 5 years since we lost our last FeLV+ cat.  Salome' was 9-1/2 when 
 she died in 2005.
 
 =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 
 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
   - Original Message - 
   From: Katie Marie Armijomailto:katie.arm...@colorado.edu 
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
   Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:28 PM
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me
 
 
   My Husband I are in a similar position. We just adopted a kitten from the 
 pound who had been feral before that and she ended up being FeLV+. We have 
 two other cats and they hadn't had any other contact before the positive test 
 and since the test we have continued to keep them separated. Euthanizing was 
 never even an option in our minds. She is such a healthy happy kitten it just 
 didn't make sense. We are currently in the process of vaccinating our other 
 two cats. But despite the vaccination out vet advised not letting them have 
 any contact with the kitten ever. We planned on keeping them in separate 
 rooms forever. Now seeing what John just wrote we wondering how often it is 
 that people interact their FeLV+ cats with non infected cats and never see 
 their other cats get infected.  
 
 
   Good luck with your kitten. She will be a wonderful addition to your 
 family. :) 
 
 
 
 
   On Nov 7, 2011, at 4:02 PM, john pollack wrote:
 
 
 If the kitten is healthy, do not put it down. FeLV cats can live good 
 lives. My Tigger is almost 5 now. Had been healthy for the whole time, until 
 last month when he developed stomach cancer. He is still here, doing fine 
 now. Also, have 5 other cats. had them vaccinated, and to this day, none are 
 FeLV+
 
 
 
 
 From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.commailto:dppl1...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me
 
 
 I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
 abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
 have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
 healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. 
 Other than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this 
 kitten.  In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would 
 understand if I euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false 
 positive and whether retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has 
 hookworms.  When I took the cat in, she suggested that I give it its 
 vaccinations before waiting for test results.  I asked if the cat turned out 
 postitive, wouldn't this harm its immune system.  she said no.  Now when she 
 called she said she was surprised that the cat tested positive since, other 
 than the sore gums, which she attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said 
 it seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
 sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry 
 I haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also take 
 care of my bedridden elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind 
 enough to give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it 
 just says positive the vet estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread dlgegg
So sorry to hear about Autumn, but t least she knew love for 4 years.  


 Susan Ang sea7...@gmail.com wrote: 
 My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline
 Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a
 beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had
 almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very
 long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list
 in 2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV
 owners. I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge
 over the years - even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the
 list. She was precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal
 pizza. My home will be so empty without her. I love you, baby girl.
 ~Susan Ang


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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me/ flow charts for testing

2011-11-08 Thread dlgegg
Good nutrition, paying attention to sniffles, etc and most of all, lotsf love


 Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I guess the fact of the matter is, is that your kitten can live a very 
 healthy life. If she tests positive, it doesn't necessarily  mean that she 
 will be chronically ill. I really think that good nutrition also plays an 
 enormous role in keeping them healthy. It's a very tough decision.  I feel 
 for you. Best of luck to you and your little one.
 Marcia
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:07 PM, dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  I'm sorry I haven't figured out how to reply to specific threads, maybe 
  because I receive a digest instead of each post.  I'm using this site 
  http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org to 
  access the threads.  If someone can point me in the right direction about 
  how to properly use this site I would appreciate it. I'm sure it is 
  somewhere in the intro msg but I'm not thinking too clearly.  When I have a 
  sick animal, I get very upset.  Anyway, I wanted to throw out what the vet 
  who diagnosed this stray kitten using a elise test that was sent to a lab 
  (not done at her office)  told me today..  She said she called to find the 
  latest protocols about retesting and said that one way is to wait 30 days 
  and repeat the test but the other way is to do an IFA now and I would know 
  once and for all if the kitten is truely positive. I questioned her about 
  what I was reading on the internet about waiting a longer period to see if 
  the cat reverts or sheds, but she said this is what she was told is the 
  latest protocol.   I did read some of you about your cats coming back 
  negative after retesting and this gave me hope.
   
Mitt (for Mittens) b/c he has them is eating well and his bad breath went 
  away I guess from the antibiotics he is on. but tonight I saw he has 
  dandruff/scaling in his fur on the outer ear.  Now I fear he does have a 
  compromised immune system and a skin disease.  So I am bringing him back to 
  the vet on thurs to get this IFA test and for her to look at the skin and 
  tell me what it is.   I'm not sure I can handle a chronically ill cat 
  again.  I took care of one of my older cats in the final stages of  kidney 
  failure for a year, including giving fluids but there was no issue of 
  keeping separate and fear of spreading illnesses to my other cats.  My 
  remaining  4 cats were former strays/ferals that were over a year old when 
  i took them in. I got them sterilized but never kept up on shots and 
  testing  b/c I kept them inside and figured since they all lived outside 
  more or less together if they had something they all probably had it by 
  then.  I've had them all over 11 years.  I have yet to find a really good 
  vet where I live. Most just push vaccinations and flea treatments. Most 
  don't deal with stray cats. I've been calling around cat rescues and those 
  that take positive cats are full and apparently the protocol here is that 
  when they bring in strays/ferals to be sterilzied, they give them a SNAP 
  test (is that an elise test) and if they test positive, they euthanize them 
  apparently b/c they will not return them to the colonies to spread the 
  disease. So most don't have experience treating cats with this illness.
   
  Anyway, thanks to anyone who made it thru this msg and has any further 
  comment.
  
  From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33 PM
  Subject: Re: stray kitten positive any advice for me
  
   
  thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will 
  review all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails. 
   I see my post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for 
  your advice.  I guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  
  advice to get the other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out 
  negative. I am worried about the redness of his gums which he is on an 
  antibiotic for. Vet attributed it to gingivitis and teething but this was 
  pre finding out the positive test results.
  
  From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
  Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me
  
  I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
  abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
  have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
  healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. 
  Other than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this 
  kitten.  In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would 
  understand if I euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false 
  positive and whether