Re: John Wayne Pioneer Trail
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sue asked: Did you have support vehicles? Or did you all carry all your necessary stuff? Rob asked: Dave , did you have backup on the trail ? , or did you just head out , and take what you needed with you ?. Regards Rob Johnson. Dave answered: This is how it works - everyone brings their truck, trailer or camper ahead each morning to the next camp location, and then we ride back on the school bus that the organization owns. This makes the trip very easy in some ways, because you don't have to bring your feed or camping stuff with you. Somehow all this happens and yet the fee for the ride/drive is very low, as almost all work is done by volunteers. The challenge isn't as great as if you had to bring everything, but for a larger group it works very well, and you could do infinite distance this way, if the horses agreed. The club also provides a 4 PortaPotty trailer with a 250 gallon water tank. We also use the tank some days to water horses along the trail. Originally, 26 years ago, people camped in tents. Now quite a few have living quarters, campers or motor homes. Maybe in 26 years I will do that too, but for now I am on the minimal luxuries program, meaning Thermorest pads and sleeping bag. It works. Food. Basically, you feed yourself and the horses. What also happens is that there are a number of potlucks (very good food!), and in some places, volunteer groups made dinner for us as fundraisers. Trail. The trail is mostly state park owned, managed and controlled. The surface is gravel, and pretty level. As a railbed, it has cuts and fills as it crosses hills, and has trestles and tunnels. People worry about the trestles, especially the few that have no side rails! But they don't seem to be a problem. Also tunnels. Some are dark holes, with no light at the other end. I was not aware anyone had a problem. Some of the fills are pretty high up - something like 20 feet wide, if that, and very steep slopes down to grade. If you went off, it would be some fast sledding to the bottom. But horses seem to understand about going across and staying on top. It didn't feel dangerous. More details are on the website: www.jwpwr.org One thing that was cool this year is that officials of State Parks came and joined us and talked about their management and plans. The state guys seemed enthusiastic and dedicated, and the current head guy for the state is a horse guy! They apparently see it as a challenge to restore as much of the trail as possible as a form of state pride, so they can claim the longest rails-to-trails in the country. I believe they are now second to Missouri, although if they add back in some miles that are now inaccessible (we go on backroads on one day), they will have bragging rights. Works for us! Dave The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
More on trail
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This year I tried to write a journal, but the pressures and distractions of the days meant it only happened sporadically. So my writing won't be perfectly organized. Sarita Tudor wrote me, and I'll copy some of what I added in my reply to her: The cross-Washington trail is the Milwaukee RR railbed which the state owns as a state park. It makes a great trail because the surface is good, hills are minimal and you can trot 10 miles at a stretch if you wanted to. I have been enjoying Washington a great deal. I think of it as a state that goes from "seaweed to sage brush". Sarita wrote: My greatest horse adventure so far, though, has been a couple of week-long horse camp trips in the Mt. Jefferson Wilderness. Awesome!...and yes, you do worry about your animals the whole time. Our "guide" carried a pistol and told us if our horses broke a leg or were otherwise injured to the extent that they couldn't get out to a trailhead on their own power that he would have to shoot the horse. Definitely made us be careful! Dave again: Shoot the horse! That puts a little pressure for good horse management! D The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Moo
This message is from: "Lori Garone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What is the website? Lori ~( / / > /> Lori Garone, PT, HPCS NCEFT Program Director Hippotherapy Clinical Specialist 5001 Woodside Road Woodside, CA 94062 phone: 650 851 2271 x 2# Fax: 650 851 3480 The Protected Health Information (PHI) contained in this email/fax is CONFIDENTIAL. It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. It is to be used only to aid in providing specific healthcare services to this patient or individual. Any other use is a violation of Federal Law ( HIPAA) and will be reported as such. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:19 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Moo This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List ! I dont know if I should laugh or cry.but there is a website dedicated to teaching people about feeding horses, esp. ones prone to getting overweight. > It is a great source to learn about hay / grains VS grass feed, and how the management of pasture and hay making has alot to do with how " safe " it is to feed. They take the myths about feeding and explane the carb ( sugar ) balences in plain english and about the dangers of pasture on specific times of day ect. BUT ! The bummer is..that they have pictured on their main page, a COW body with a Fjord head attached ! Geeesh, not all of us let our Fjords get fat, and even ones who are " air ferns " or have confirmed thyroid problems or insulin resistance can be managed properly. Waaa ! I still like their site, but wish they had pictured another breed attached to that BOVINE. Lisa ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: confidence
This message is from: Sarah Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kate, I don't drive (except for ground driving) but I can recall about 4 cases where I got shook up pretty badly and I had to re-build my confidence. I've been riding about 45 years and have only broken 1 finger, cracked 1 rib and separated 1 shoulder in all that time, so I guess I count myself lucky. Here's how it usually works: 1. The old saw about getting back on the horse right away is correct. The worst cases of having to re-build confidence have been when an injury occurred and it would just have been crazy to get back on. I guess some folk would climb back on with a cracked rib and seeing double, but not me. 2. analyze analyze analyze. Usually when a wreck occurs, there's a reason. What did you do wrong. Forget about what the horse did wrong - it was probably my fault that he did it. What was the "root cause" (over facing the horse, taking him to an environment he wasn't ready for, rider over-tired with head not on the job, too much in a hurry to lunge the horse, etc. etc.) Once you figure out what went wrong, don't do it again. See what you can change to prevent it. This step not only will keep you safer, it will also make you feel safer. In one case I put a bucking strap on my saddle. Sometimes the change is a big one - a new horse or a new trainer. (The cracked rib incident made me face up to a training situation that I hadn't really been happy with, but hadn't quite got around to changing.) 3. Baby steps back. If you crashed over a 4'6" oxer, maybe all you face up to is trot poles for the next month. If the horse ran away with you at the trot, maybe all you can do is walk around a round pen for a while. Keep pushing the envelope just a little. One step at a time you will find your path. 4. Remember why you do this horse thing. If you love these beasties, it will all be worth it. spend some extra time with your horse friend just hanging out. You will feel better in tune with them. kate charboneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This message is from: "kate charboneau" A recent post about a driving wreck has me thinking about confidence. Is anyone out there willing to share about a big loss of confidence with horses, and their path back to comfortable horse using? It's the path back that I'm most hoping to hear about... when one has lost confidence it's easy to see the event/s that contributed; but the path back is not so clear. Anyone out there found a path back? Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Steve Bowers
This message is from: "Jeanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wow... sad news about Steve Bowers. I was just up at his place a few months ago. When exactly did he pass away? Does anyone know? I was just looking through their website and came across this: http://www.bowersfarm.com/news.html Look down the page (it scrolls a long way)... anybody see anyone we all know and love to watch drive his four abreast ?!?! ;-) (LOVED seeing that at Winona, Rich!!) Jeanne - Berthoud, CO The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Steve Bowers
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> WOW! Karen - Thanks for informing us about Steve. Guess they all are having fun in horse heaven... Steve, Frank, Bud to name a few... we have lost some great driving horsemen in the past few years... they must be having a ball swapping stories and playing with the horses... It is so sad to lose him at such young age. Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - The Horse Garden www.hestehaven.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Southern Oregon The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fjord Christmas ornament EBAY
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Listers. We listed a Fjord horse Christmas Ornament on ebay. Check it out! Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - The Horse Garden www.hestehaven.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Southern Oregon The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Steve Bowers
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am re-posting this here as i just saw it on the CDList. I am sure Steve had many fjord friends... Steve was one of the best horsepeople I have ever met. And an awesome human with wonderful energy. I am so grateful our paths crossed the several times they did. --- From: Betsy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Steve Bowers, teamster and horse trainer Thought some folks might want to know about this. Sounds like the = driving world has lost another good soul.=20 Betsy No one cares how much you know, until they know how much you care. Theodore Roosevelt - Original Message -=20 Subject: Steve Bowers, teamster and horse trainer For many years Art and I have been reading articles written by a = teamster and horse trainer, Steve Bowers, out of Colorado. His articles = surfaced in Rural Heritage and driving magazines. He has published = several books, videos and DVDs about training the driving horse and the = teamster's view. He emphasized kindness in his training and safety at = all costs. To use an "over-used" word, he was the horse-whisperer of = the driving world, a breath of fresh air to driving horses and teamsters = alike. We finally got to meet and spend time with this quiet, gentle = man and his sweet wife, Peggy, during the Carriage Operators of North = America (CONA) Conference in Chicago earlier this year. Some of us were = already familiar with his training methods both from reading and viewing = his work and the work of many under saddle clinicians but for some in = our group it was an epiphany. Many left the conference with a seed = planted. They will be better horseman and teamsters for it. =20 We just received word that Steve passed away Friday night from a brain = aneurysm. I would guess Steve to be in his late 40's. So young. The = driving world has lost an amazing man. He was spearheading driving = standards for our industry focusing on proper methods and safety. He = was quietly changing the lives of carriage driving horses by teaching = teamsters how results can be achieved without force. =20 Steve is survived by his wife Peggy and their young son, Nate, who = appears to have the same gift with horses. =20 You can learn more about Steve by visiting his website = http://www.bowersfarm.com/. =20 Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon http://www.picturetrail.com/weegees The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: ticks and neighbors
This message is from: Cherrie Nolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We had all types of domestic birds for tick, fly and mosquito control over the years we spent in Wisconsin. The guineas were the first attempt; ticks and flys decreased, mosquitos stayed the same, but my husband couldn't handle the noise. We rotationally grazed the horses with some steers and sheep and followed with a portable eggmobile of heirloom layers. The hens scratched the manure apart and ate the fly larvae before it had a chance to hatch into flies. We had free-range ducks that kept the pond and any other standing water free of mosquito larvae. The Indian runners, khaki campbells and Welsh harlequins were active and covered the property, but they were noisy. The ideal duck was our flock of muscovies. They covered the property, terrestrial and aquatic, and were quackless. Plus they raised their own replacements readily. Our livestock guardian dog kept the coyotes, coons and other predators at bay. We encouraged bats with bat boxes and let the swallows nest all summer. I never sprayed the horses or treated them for external pests. I plan to get this kind of holistic system set up again now that we are in Kansas. The flies and mosquitos torment the horses and I've pulled many ticks. The flock of cowbirds that follow the horses around are good indication that chickens and ducks would eat well. I had forgotten how bad these insect pests could be after having so many years of low insect levels in Wisconsin due to our management program. Cherrie Nolden Prairie Paradise Farms Kansas - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Moo
This message is from: Vic Faeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lisa, I know this site: safergrass.org. And it is an absolutely wonderful site. But, I know exactly what you mean. The Fjord picture on the main page is just awful!!! Vic --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I dont know if I should laugh or cry.but there > is a website dedicated to teaching people about feeding horses, esp. ones prone to getting overweight. > > It is a great source to learn about hay / grains > VS grass feed... Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Moo
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List ! I dont know if I should laugh or cry.but there is a website dedicated to teaching people about feeding horses, esp. ones prone to getting overweight. > It is a great source to learn about hay / grains VS grass feed, and how the management of pasture and hay making has alot to do with how " safe " it is to feed. They take the myths about feeding and explane the carb ( sugar ) balences in plain english and about the dangers of pasture on specific times of day ect. BUT ! The bummer is..that they have pictured on their main page, a COW body with a Fjord head attached ! Geeesh, not all of us let our Fjords get fat, and even ones who are " air ferns " or have confirmed thyroid problems or insulin resistance can be managed properly. Waaa ! I still like their site, but wish they had pictured another breed attached to that BOVINE. Lisa ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: ticks
This message is from: Carol Makosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That brought me a chuckle. How about the killer bees? Debby Stai wrote: This message is from: "Debby Stai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We can send you the fire ants from Texas...they'll take care of them. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: cross country hauler info
This message is from: "Sharon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi , Thank you so much for your recommendations! I really appreciate it. Sharon The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: DONATIONS
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Did you use the link to Pay Pal that Steve supplied? It worked for me! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, showers this morning after 81 degrees yesterday. I have been using PayPal, for years without any problems. I tried to make a donation to Steve for the list, and PayPal said that I had the wrong e-mail address. Question? What is your correct address for PayPal ? Steve. Regards, Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca.. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: DONATIONS
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jerrell-- Tuesday, June 5, 2007, you wrote: > I have been using PayPal, for years without any problems. I tried to > make a donation to Steve for the list, and PayPal said that I had > the wrong e-mail address. If you'll use the link I supplied: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2daalk you should have no problems. I believe those who have donated have not experienced any trouble. -- Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper & Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. --Roger Caras The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Ticks
This message is from: "william M. Coli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It wasn't clear if folks are talking about deer ticks or dog ticks, but if the former, the fellow who is most knowledgable about them in CT recommends making available insecticide treated cotton for deer mice and white footed mice to use in building their nests. Since the Ixodes (deer) ticks need to feed on mice or chipmunks to contract Lyme disease, having their nests treated prevents them from getting bitten and can interrupt the life cycle. He suggests placing the treated cotton in stone walls or other places where mice or chipmunks are likely to frequent but in such a way that dogs of children can not get at it. Bill Coli The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
ticks
This message is from: "Debby Stai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We can send you the fire ants from Texas...they'll take care of them. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Flys and Mosquitoes
This message is from: "fjords" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bats are awesome insect eater. You can construct bat houses to encourage them to stay around your farm. Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:30 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Flys and Mosquitoes This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone have any bird raising suggestions that eat fly's and mosquitoes? I have a barn full of swallows now and no bugs, but when they leave the bug population rises. Any birds that will eat insects that will stay around? Thanks Bonnie ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Wonderful Fjords in Training
This message is from: "kelly MacDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Everyone, I wanted to share a bit of news about the two Fjords that arrived at my farm last week for training. The horses came from PEI, and travelled exceptionally well. Upon arrival they acted like they have been here forever. They were very attached to one another, so as long as they were together they were content. The gelding, 12 yr. old Teigar (Tamer Tuff x Eider/Hejmar), is an absolute sweetheart. I haven't had the pleasure of working with these bloodlines before, and I am impressed! He is 100% willing, eager, and forward. He really has a great work ethic, even after having several years off from work and being a little overweight. He does have some sensitivity issues, very scared of whips being one, but he's already very trusting. I'd love to hear from anyone with experience working with these lines, as I'm intrigued. His movement is fabulous - very strong haunches and really works off his hocks. His natural cadence and rhythm is breathtaking. Yui, the mare, is a 12 yr. old Hostar daughter and out of Uli/Garth. You can imagine how excited I was to have another Hostar offspring coming to my farm, as my very own Fjord, NW Barlind, is also sired by Hostar. Yui has the same great qualities as Barlind - very friendly, 'in your pocket' kind of personality. She's much more head-strong than Teigar, but learned very quickly that I'm the 'better horse' in the relationship. For the first few days Yui and I worked together in-hand. Yui was very quick to learn how to respect my space. She loves her new rope halter and now walks calmly beside me at all times. Over the weekend I worked both horses in the long-lines and really saw what they knew. It's obvious they both have had some good training, primarily in harness. Riding Teigar is very interesting, because he really rides like a driving horse. He doesn't like to get close to the wall and takes his corners a little wide. He's now learning to move away from the leg, instead of just going faster! Working with these two really do confirm my beliefs that Fjords are exceptionally quick learners. Just a quick note as well, about Fjords and jumping. My fjord NW Barlind, LOVES to jump. He's always game for anything, and really gets excited when he sees jumps set up in the arena. Last week we worked on gymnastics. I had three jumps set up, a crossrail - 18' - a vertical - 21' - then an oxer. He loved every minute of the challenge and by the end the jumps were up to 3'. He'll jump poles, planks, brush boxes and walls. Funny thing though, the only jump he ever hesitates to is the hay bales. The first time we approached the hay he slowed right down and almost looked at me. It was as if he was saying "Could we stop for a quick snack...please?". Of course we didn't, and he cleared those bales leaving lots of room to spare. There was NO way he was getting his lunch mussed up :) That's all for now. Thanks for reading! Again, I'd love to hear of anyone's personal experiences with the above mentioned bloodlines. Sincerely, Kelly MacDonald Windows Live Hotmail. Even hotter than before Get a better look now. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Flys and Mosquitoes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone have any bird raising suggestions that eat fly's and mosquitoes? I have a barn full of swallows now and no bugs, but when they leave the bug population rises. Any birds that will eat insects that will stay around? Thanks Bonnie ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Gnasty Gnats
This message is from: "Nancy Blauers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Everyone! I was wondering if anyone has a suggestions that can help my Fjord, Theo. The gnats here in central Florida love him. Absolutely LOVE him. They seem to focus on his legs, particularly his back legs, from the hocks down. I fly spray every morning & evening with TriTec 14 and also apply swat on the really chewed up areas but these little pests are unrelenting. Has anyone else had an issue like this? My quarter horse is untouched, I guess he doesn't taste as good as little Fjords. Any suggestions would be most welcome. Many Thanks! Nancy Blauers Geneva, FL Its free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_June07 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #130
This message is from: "Linda Lottie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, I think it is from having lush, green, long grass pastures. I am fortunatebut, ticks are an issue. When they graze on shorter, less lush pasture there seem to be fewer ticks. WI is a high tick state, too. L From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #130 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 09:04:17 EDT This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/5/07 1:24:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Ticks are very prevelant in my area. > >The horses host many "tick families" in their tails. I shampoo and > >spray but heard there is a spot on. > i wonder if some horses attract them more than others? or if it's from having their head in the grass? i have not found one tick on oz, and i check his forelock and tailhead every time i ride. however, some of the school horses are just full of them, not only in the heavy hair, but they get them on the bodies... laurie, and oz, no ticks on me (crossing my fingers, since i hate touching the little buggers) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: ticks
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Having birds to solve the tick problem sounds great. Do the ticks ever get on the birds? Just curious. Bonnie in CA - Original Message - From: "kate charboneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 4:53 AM Subject: RE: ticks This message is from: "kate charboneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I know you were asking about chemical repellents, but I have to put a plug in for chickens or ducks. We live on 26 acres surrounded by 100's of acres of state forest which = tick paradise. Since I got my birds, it's a surprize to find a tick on a horse coming in from pasture. We have to pick like crazy when coming in from trail drives, the little beasties literally are swarming up the legs and tails, you can easily pick over a dozen off each horse, so this tells me my home really is a "tick free zone". The breed of bird does matter. Swedish ducks are homebodies & therefore don't go out bugging beyond the actual barnyard; Runners roam the whole acreage & surrounding woods but are nervous & hard to live with; my favorites are the Welsh Harlequins, they roam the whole acreage & surrounding woods, and are pleasant & easy to live with. We also looked into guineas, but hubby works nights/sleeps days so the noise factor made them a no-no for us. A friend used to have turkeys and peafowl roaming her place; no ticks there either, but the turkeys got aggressive and scary for friends who would visit, and they would peck my car, g. Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:01:52 -0500 From: "Katherine Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: tick repellents This message is from: "Katherine Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ticks are really bad on my horses this spring and since they have a 20-acre pasture to wander in, I'm looking for a repellent Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #130
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/5/07 1:24:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Ticks are very prevelant in my area. > >The horses host many "tick families" in their tails. I shampoo and > >spray but heard there is a spot on. > i wonder if some horses attract them more than others? or if it's from having their head in the grass? i have not found one tick on oz, and i check his forelock and tailhead every time i ride. however, some of the school horses are just full of them, not only in the heavy hair, but they get them on the bodies... laurie, and oz, no ticks on me (crossing my fingers, since i hate touching the little buggers) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
permethrin-based spot-on type
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have used the permethrin-based spot-on type repellent last summer and this summer so far. I really can't see it does much for flies. There are still barn flies and definitely horse flies landing on them. They are sprayed with Ultasheild too. Nothing works and soon the deer flies will start. Ticks are not a major problem though, so maybe it does work for that. Valerie Columbia, CT The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: ticks
This message is from: "kate charboneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I know you were asking about chemical repellents, but I have to put a plug in for chickens or ducks. We live on 26 acres surrounded by 100's of acres of state forest which = tick paradise. Since I got my birds, it's a surprize to find a tick on a horse coming in from pasture. We have to pick like crazy when coming in from trail drives, the little beasties literally are swarming up the legs and tails, you can easily pick over a dozen off each horse, so this tells me my home really is a "tick free zone". The breed of bird does matter. Swedish ducks are homebodies & therefore don't go out bugging beyond the actual barnyard; Runners roam the whole acreage & surrounding woods but are nervous & hard to live with; my favorites are the Welsh Harlequins, they roam the whole acreage & surrounding woods, and are pleasant & easy to live with. We also looked into guineas, but hubby works nights/sleeps days so the noise factor made them a no-no for us. A friend used to have turkeys and peafowl roaming her place; no ticks there either, but the turkeys got aggressive and scary for friends who would visit, and they would peck my car, g. > >Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:01:52 -0500 >From: "Katherine Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: tick repellents > >This message is from: "Katherine Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Ticks are really bad on my horses this spring and since they have a 20-acre >pasture to wander in, I'm looking for a repellent Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: confidence
This message is from: "kate charboneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A recent post about a driving wreck has me thinking about confidence. Is anyone out there willing to share about a big loss of confidence with horses, and their path back to comfortable horse using? It's the path back that I'm most hoping to hear about... when one has lost confidence it's easy to see the event/s that contributed; but the path back is not so clear. Anyone out there found a path back? Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
