Re: To shoe or not to shoe...
This message is from: "shawna smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just want to chime in here, as a "shod" riding friend of Lola's. The Epic boots that Lola and friend Pam use definitely work very well. I will be going with boots for my young gelding this summer and most likely with my mare as well this winter. She's had shoes on continuously for 3 years and her feet are great, but with higher fuel costs, I doubt I'll be riding quite as much this next winter and the boots seem like a good choice. Another friend I ride with in steep, muddy, rocky terrain uses the old mac G2's and loves them. The boots all seem to provide better traction on rocks and slick muddy hills than shoes do. At least in our group, it's always my mare leaving the most "skid marks" on slick hills; not the booted hooves!! Shawna in OR - From: "Lola Lahr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:47 AM To: Subject: Re: To shoe or not to shoe... This message is from: "Lola Lahr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Kelly- A friend of mine and I both have barefoot fjords, and use boots. They are great. I use the Easy Boot Epics, usually just on the fronts, but sometimes on all four feet when riding in rough, muddy and/or rocky terrain. I have seen shod horses lose their shoes, slip and slide on the rocks, getting cut and scraped, etc., and my horse, in her boots, just walks right on through. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fwd: Fjord
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Fjord Friends! Our therapeutic riding center, located in upstate NY, is currently looking for additional horses to use in their riding lessons for individuals with disabilities. I personally am extremely well acquainted with the Fjord breed, since I have owned a Fjord of my own, MVF Malla, for 18 years. Malla proved all too well the versatility and huge heart that are characteristic of our favorite breed, since her and I literally have done everything a horse and rider/whip could do. She now is a fantastic teacher to my 2 year old daughter as she learns about riding and horsemanship (and of course I still ride/drive her too!). I also take credit for roping the NFHR's Registrar/Executive Director (Mike May) into his role, as he wouldn't ever have started it if it weren't for horse crazy me getting him introduced to Fjords- he's my dad! ;-) Anyway, knowing Fjords so well, I know if we could find the "perfect" Fjord, he/she would likely be the perefect combination of size, sturdiness and temperment that a great therpeutic riding horse needs. I am an Advanced Certified NARHA (North American Riding for the Handicapped) instructor, and the Sr. Instructor at our center, and I sure would love to get my hands on a furry little Fjord for our riders (and I know the riders would just love them)! We also have an eye towards the future to incorporate a driving program into our center, and a Fjord would likely be able to slide right in there as well. If any of you know of a good candidate to be a therapeutic riding horse, please contact me. We are looking for a horse with "some miles" that has been ridden a fair amount and has seen a lot of things, so likely will be 8 years old or more. We are especially interested in any horse that you may be interested in donating and receiving a tax write-off for, though we will certainly consider a possible purchase if we can find just the right match. Thank you! Niki Whilden Sr. Riding Instructor Heritage Christian Stables (585) 872-2540 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: dressage pad?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Gina I have a couple of dressage pads that I really like one is made by 5 star 100% wool felt. It is very nice and fits Fjords well the other is a Merino sheep wool fleece and it contoured to the shape of the saddle. I do have some of waffle weave types, but after you ride them in the wool the look that they give you if you dare use the other pad! You just know that they are much more comfy. Bonnie Morris Looks like rain again, But might not Western, WA **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
dressage pad?
This message is from: Gina Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello, I am wondering if anyone can recommend a favorite dressage pad. I recently ordered a Roma full quilted pad from Smartpak and it looks ridiculously huge on my fjord! Most don't give measurements and I don't want to make the same mistake again! Thanks, Gina Menominee, MI The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Boots
This message is from: "Lola Lahr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A small metal wire brush (looks sort of like a toothbrush with shiny bristles) and hose will clean up your Velcro. Thanks for the tip on the boot swap site!! I also have a few pairs of BOAS and Old Macs - some NEVER USED- lying around in my tack room if someone wants to take them off my hands. I use Epics on everybody now. ;-) On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Karen & Larry Klein < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Karen & Larry Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For those looking for different types of boots there is a web site called > www.naturalhorsetrim.com/boot_swap.htm or search under hoof boot swap. > They > have many different boots and used boots to buy or swap. They list all the > different kinds and the web sites to get sizes and descriptions of the > boots > and how to fit them. On the Boa and easy boots page they also have Old > Mac's. > There are about 4 different styles of easy boots now. Some of the boots can > be > bought for a reasonable price on the boot swap and sale. > We use Boa's on 2 of our horses, and easy boots on the one. We did have a > problem with easy boots staying on the one horse, because of a twisting he > does as he walks, they would twist off. I think the new epics would stay on > better, but until he wears out the Boa's We won't buy any more boots. They > wear forever, we have had the one pair for 4 years, and there is very > little > wear on them. I don't use them all the time, but that is what I really like > about the boots, I only have to use them as I need them. > The one thing I don't think I would like about the Old Mac's is the Velcro, > once it gets just so dirty it looses its Velcro power. I think you would > wear > out the Velcro before you ever wore the boots out. > Just some thoughts and ideas. > > Karen > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Boots
This message is from: "Karen & Larry Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For those looking for different types of boots there is a web site called www.naturalhorsetrim.com/boot_swap.htm or search under hoof boot swap. They have many different boots and used boots to buy or swap. They list all the different kinds and the web sites to get sizes and descriptions of the boots and how to fit them. On the Boa and easy boots page they also have Old Mac's. There are about 4 different styles of easy boots now. Some of the boots can be bought for a reasonable price on the boot swap and sale. We use Boa's on 2 of our horses, and easy boots on the one. We did have a problem with easy boots staying on the one horse, because of a twisting he does as he walks, they would twist off. I think the new epics would stay on better, but until he wears out the Boa's We won't buy any more boots. They wear forever, we have had the one pair for 4 years, and there is very little wear on them. I don't use them all the time, but that is what I really like about the boots, I only have to use them as I need them. The one thing I don't think I would like about the Old Mac's is the Velcro, once it gets just so dirty it looses its Velcro power. I think you would wear out the Velcro before you ever wore the boots out. Just some thoughts and ideas. Karen The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
gazing muzzle
This message is from: "Ellen Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for all the posts.I have a Best Friend grazing muzzle size large horse.My horses have never obected to me putting it on or wearing it in the pasture.Maybe I'll try the real sheepskin instead of the fleece that I sewed on.Maybe a teadmill for all of us! Ellen The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: grazing muzzle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i, too, use a best friends muzzle on oz, and he knows that when i get it out, he gets to eat some grass. he will actually lower his head and stick his nose in the bucket. then he trots to the back of his turnout to the gate the i open to let him into the grassy area. so far we haven't had a rubbing problem, though the last time he used it regularly, he did get some black spots where it rubbed, but they were not raw. he's quite funny to watch trying to get as much as he can through the hole. he kind of tosses the basket forward a little and then drags it back to his lips. there's a lot of flat grass out there, so at least it doesn't all go into his mouth. he will run all the way to the back of the pasture, which abuts the one with charlie and gizmo. i was watching him and the mini playing under the lower fence rope. gizmo can laugh now, but i have a mini muzzle for him if he starts to chub up. laurie, and the three musketeers ** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
saddle
This message is from: "Debby Stai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wasn't someone looking for a Wintec Isabel for one of their fjords. We'd ridden on our daughters treeless saddle this past weekend and really really liked it. We won't be showing, we just ride at home for fun, but this treeless we can ride on the trails too. I'd be interested in selling the Isabel if someone would like pictures...Its a 17inch and in great shape...If anyone else knows someone looking please forward my email. I have pictures/video of Miss Ynde in the treeless, I'm hoping to get downloaded to youtube so we can share with the fjord people and Yndes "papa"...We were so proud of her this weekend. I liked the treeless to but I think my Prestige fits Langster better. thanks all. Debby in Tx The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: To shoe or not to shoe...
This message is from: "Lola Lahr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Kelly- A friend of mine and I both have barefoot fjords, and use boots. They are great. My advice would be to Google Pete Ramey's website and read his articles. He is a farrier by trade, and a famous expert in hoofs and hoof care, who has a string of barefoot horses that he uses for tourists to ride on the mountain trails (very very rocky!) at his home in Georgia He got most of them free because they had major foot problems. Also check Easy Care's website and read the articles about natural hoof care. I use the Easy Boot Epics, usually just on the fronts, but sometimes on all four feet when riding in rough, muddy and/or rocky terrain. I have seen shod horses lose their shoes, slip and slide on the rocks, getting cut and scraped, etc., and my horse, in her boots, just walks right on through. If it is really rough, you can get foam pads to put inside the boots for more cushioning. Once you put the boots on a couple of times it gets to be really quick and easy. On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Kelly Trirogoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Kelly Trirogoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello list; > > I have a bit of a dilemma. I am really having to consider whether or not I > want to shoe my gelding. The ground where I live is unreasonably rocky and > he > still seems to be tender tootsied. He can tolerate walking on the rocky > ground, but he seeks out softer spots and he is reluctant to do much more > then > a walk/ short strided trot. I live up a mountain with a dry, hottish, rocky > terrain. The boys spend most of their time in a "dry lot" that is mostly > sand > (with some trees for shelter) Skovy does ok on our outings, but I just > wonder > whether he would go better with front shoes. Will his foot become tough > enough over time? A few of my neighbors that have horses have warned me > about > him getting a stone bruise. How many of you here do extreme trail riding > with > and without shoes? I hesitate to put them on him as I worry once they are > on, > they can't come off. I trail ride several times a week for an hour and a > half > to two hours at a time. If some of the people that use their fjords for > combined driving or eventing could let me know how their fjords do with > being > shoed vs. unshoed > > Are the shoes going to make him more "slippery" on some of the rocky > terrain?? > > What about horse boots. I know some of you use them, and are they really > convenient to put on? I guess they depend on the shape of the horses foot > too. I have found that the general shape/area of Skovy's foot has changed > as I > have had to change farriers several times. > > Just wondering what some of you do, as I know that some of you must live in > more extreme areas then this. > Just hanging out at the crossroads until I make up my mind... > Feel free to p.m. me and let me know your opinions > > CheersKelly > _ > Find hidden words, unscramble celebrity names, or try the ultimate > crossword > puzzle with Live Search Games. Play now! > http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212 > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: To shoe or not to shoe...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We don't live in an extreme terrain, but my barn owner thought it was easier to put down rocks on all of the roads surrounding the barn and for access to our trails. So while my ponies are in a comfy 2 acre dry lot most of the time, we have to cross rocks to get anywhere else. I figure I am asking them to work less than 10% of their time, and the inconvenience of my putting on hoof boots is one I'm willing to put up with. We are currently in the process of changing our hoof boots. Della can wear BOA's which are not really difficult to put on. Joe wears Old Macs because they are the only ones with a shape round enough to accommodate his hoof. We are trying out some Renegades for Della (hopefully they get here today), which are supposed to be easier to use, and cause less of an issue with rubbing since they sit below the hairline. The Old Macs are really a pain to use, but we're waiting for Renegade to make a model big enough for Joe (he is such a stud). Kate with Joe and Della ** In a message dated 6/16/2008 10:32:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a bit of a dilemma. I am really having to consider whether or not I want to shoe my gelding. **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: grazing muzzle
This message is from: "jen frame" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My Fjord mare also got a rub spot from the grazing muzzle. So I brought some real sheep skin with the fleece on it to my local saddle maker and had him sew it around the edge. It solved the problem. But you have to check the fleece every day and pull out any grass spurs or anything else that can easily get stuck in the fleece and irritate the horse. Jen On 6/17/08, Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I use the "Best Friends" muzzle. > > > > On 6/16/08 8:49 PM, "debora seely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This message is from: debora seely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Linda, > >What kind of muzzle do you have? > > > > Deb Seely > > > > --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: grazing muzzle > > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 9:18 PM > > > > This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Ellen.once in awhile the muzzles cause a wear area but for the most > part > > my > > guys do well. > > > > The muzzle should not be so loose that is moves up and down alot. > > > > I have about an 1" 1/2 between the bottom of the muzzle and the horse > > muzzle. > > > > The one who has the most wear had a "boney" face. Might be why?? > > > > Linda > > > > > > "To experience the joy of a kind and caring relationship that respects > > andaccepts all of the parts of who we are is a gift.to give and to > > receive." > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0400 > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: grazing muzzle > > > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > > > > > This message is from: "Ellen Davidson" > > > > > > I am having trouble with the grazing muzzle rubbing the fjords face > > badly.I > > > bought large horse (which I think is the largest size).It looks very well > > made > > > and I tried to put it loosely on their faces.I even went back and sewed > > fleece > > > around the back edge when I first saw the problem.Anyone else ha this > > problem? > > > Any ideas on how to fix it? It's really the vets fault for telling the > > fjords > > > that they were too fat. Thanks,Ellen > > > > > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > > > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Fjords at Elk Creek!
This message is from: "Ed Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Sue and everyone, How did I miss you guys?!!! I was on the lookout for you all weekend, though the heat kept us confined to our camp more than usual, especially with Magz studying for final exams. Lex, Holy Helga, and Riena were all superstars, of course. Beth did Training, Carole did Prelim. We had a great time at Elk Creek, I can't say enough about this wonderful show -- sign up next year, everybody! See you next time -- Ann S. - Original Message - From: safreivald Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:50 PM To: fjordhorse-digest Subject: Fjords at Elk Creek! This message is from: "safreivald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't have any of the placings, but there were 5 Fjords at Elk Creek CDE! Beth Gerst and her gelding, Maggie Sullivan and Reina, Carole Hunter and Holy Helga and Marsha Korose with Ulend and Solvar! It was really hot and muggy this past weekend and the course is always interesting and challenging. Sorry I didn't check the postings before we headed for home. I think that all were in training, except Maggie who is Intermediate! Sue Freivald The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: grazing muzzle
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I use the "Best Friends" muzzle. On 6/16/08 8:49 PM, "debora seely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: debora seely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Linda, > What kind of muzzle do you have? > > Deb Seely > > --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: grazing muzzle > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 9:18 PM > > This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Ellen.once in awhile the muzzles cause a wear area but for the most part > my > guys do well. > > The muzzle should not be so loose that is moves up and down alot. > > I have about an 1" 1/2 between the bottom of the muzzle and the horse > muzzle. > > The one who has the most wear had a "boney" face. Might be why?? > > Linda > > > "To experience the joy of a kind and caring relationship that respects > andaccepts all of the parts of who we are is a gift.to give and to > receive." > > > > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0400 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: grazing muzzle > > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > > > This message is from: "Ellen Davidson" > > > > I am having trouble with the grazing muzzle rubbing the fjords face > badly.I > > bought large horse (which I think is the largest size).It looks very well > made > > and I tried to put it loosely on their faces.I even went back and sewed > fleece > > around the back edge when I first saw the problem.Anyone else ha this > problem? > > Any ideas on how to fix it? It's really the vets fault for telling the > fjords > > that they were too fat. Thanks,Ellen > > > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw