Re: ugly stages
This message is from: kate charboneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Linda, I agree, time will improve things. Fredlet was looking better, well, less bad anyway, this morning, so I measured him. He's only downhill by 1 now, so this just has to be about growthiness. I found a zillion internet pictures of an old Blue Earth show on Living in Oz. Of course I went immediately to the group titled, 2 3 yr old geldings and saw quite clearly what a good fit my Fred would have been with that group. Then I checked out the 4 5 yr old geldings and lo and behold that group of boys had pulled their bodies together. You are right, I just have to get the expectations out of my head that he should mature like Other Breeds. Seeing that picture group of 2 3 year old geldings really did me alot of good. As well as so many of you telling me to just hold on, he'll get around to maturing in his own time. Thanks, all. I've settled my brain down on it. It's like he's a year slower than I expected. I can deal with that. Kate This message is from: Linda Lottie User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kate.give your boy time. Winter is the worst time of the year for looksfjords mature slowly. If you are used to the other breeds, well, just give him time. About this time of year I have to trim the goat hairs as I am just tired of looking at the yak look :) Linda Laurie Oz, I'm so sure that we must be nearly neighbors... I'm in Bemidji. Where are you? I will be going to Expo, just hubby me; Fred will stay home. We're planning on taking in the fun, and especially on hanging with the Fjords their people. I'm eager to meet you Oz there! I'd love to try my hand at hugging and smooching on a 15H, drafty Fjord loverboy! Since I'm a retired show mom, I am much better at supporting the do-er than on being the do-er; and I'm eager to lend a hand to all you do-ers at Expo. :) Also, I've been wondering if the Heike you write about is the same woman that I've heard has a Fjord stallion that is a certified Posse horse? If so, I think she may have a mare, Lily, that's from Bemidji. :) Kate Fred laurie, who has been working from home because minnesota is in the midst of a 3 day blizzard kate, i have probably asked this before, but since i am indeed 60(!!!) now, i can't remember. where in minnesota are you? are you going to the minnesota horse expo in april? there is another 15 hand, drafty fjord loverboy who is going to be there..OZ. and he would love to meet you. this is the first year i have taken him down, and we get to ride in the huge arena of the coliseum, and talk fjord for 3 straight days.. laurie, and oz, who got a couple of days off from riding this week, since i was basically snowed in The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. Spam detection software, running on the system angus.mystery.com, has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or block similar future email. If you have any questions, see [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details. Content preview: Hi Linda, I agree, time will improve things. Fredlet was looking better, well, less bad anyway, this morning, so I measured him. He's only downhill by 1 now, so this just has to be about growthiness. I found a zillion internet pictures of an old Blue Earth show on Living in Oz. Of course I went immediately to the group titled, 2 3 yr old geldings and saw quite clearly what a good fit my Fred would have been with that group. Then I checked out the 4 5 yr old geldings and lo and behold that group of boys had pulled their bodies together. You are right, I just have to get the expectations out of my head that he should mature like Other Breeds. Seeing that picture group of 2 3 year old geldings really did me alot of good. As well as so many of you telling me to just hold on, he'll get around to maturing in his own time. Thanks, all. I've settled my brain down on it. It's like he's a year slower than I expected. I can deal with that. Kate [...] Content analysis details: (5.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -- -- 1.0 FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS From: ends in numbers 0.6 WORK_AT_HOME BODY: Information on how to work at home (1) 0.7 HTML_20_30 BODY: Message is 20% to 30% HTML 0.7 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts 0.2 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 1.1 MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET RAW: Message text in HTML without charset 0.9 MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER Message-Id was added by a relay The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: ugly stages/now training for mounting
This message is from: Cherie Mascis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kate, if you're worried he may get too tall for you, try some trick training and train him to lay or kneel down for you to mount! I have my 2 1/2 year old Fjord filly bowing pretty well. I had a welsh/Arabian that I used to run trail rides on. I had to get off and on many times a day because people kept dropping water bottles, cameras, you name it, so I trained him to park out a bit (he wasn't that tall to begin with), later I trained him to pick things up and hand them to me in the saddle! My Fjord, Tyra, is already picking up brushes and handing them to me! Cherie The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: ugly stages
This message is from: kate charboneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] You guys are really great. :) 15 hands is what my magic string test tells me. I take a piece of baling twine and stretch it from the point of his elbow to the point of his pastern, uh, fetlock, uh, that pointy point above his, you know, ankle... (yes I feel dumb) then that length of baling twine goes from his elbow up into the air above his wither that's what I measure with my stick. The magic string says he's going to be in the ballpark of 15H. That's 6 inches taller than Mama, and 3 inches taller that Dad. This was not supposed to happen. 3 days, 3 months, and 3rd birthday. Okay, this is timely. Fred will turn 3 on March 23, I'll drag hubby out there with a video camera. Then I'll pour over video of movement and structure until I can't see straight. I am eager to see him next to a bunch of his age mates at Blue Earth. We have our first show on March 25, the gal I've been taking showmanship lessons from says it's too soon for showmanship, but we'll be in halter class. It'll be us and a bunch of AQHA's; think the judge will notice us? Or should I wear an outfit with lots of bling-bling in order to be noticed? :) At our first showmanship lesson I was prepared to work on the fancy stuff, like how do you get him to pivot?? The lesson gal said, actually we need to work on leading. Verrry Humbling. So in a couple of weeks my growthy, gangley, wobbly, very sweet boy and I will be in a halter class at an open show for the first time. I think this will qualify as a *good experience* for us both! :) Find what you need at prices youll love. Compare products and save at MSN® Shopping. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: ugly stages
This message is from: Linda Lottie User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kate.my daughter and I took our gelding and our mare and foal to an open show to get experience for the fjord show. Like you mentionedwe were with about 20 quarterhorses in a halter class.and nice ones at that! The judge wandered through the quarterhorsesthen, over to us and said what a nice group of fjords we had. We stuck out like sore thumbs and enjoyed every minute of it - haha!! Linda in WI On 2/28/07 8:46 PM, kate charboneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: kate charboneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] You guys are really great. :) 15 hands is what my magic string test tells me. I take a piece of baling twine and stretch it from the point of his elbow to the point of his pastern, uh, fetlock, uh, that pointy point above his, you know, ankle... (yes I feel dumb) then that length of baling twine goes from his elbow up into the air above his wither that's what I measure with my stick. The magic string says he's going to be in the ballpark of 15H. That's 6 inches taller than Mama, and 3 inches taller that Dad. This was not supposed to happen. 3 days, 3 months, and 3rd birthday. Okay, this is timely. Fred will turn 3 on March 23, I'll drag hubby out there with a video camera. Then I'll pour over video of movement and structure until I can't see straight. I am eager to see him next to a bunch of his age mates at Blue Earth. We have our first show on March 25, the gal I've been taking showmanship lessons from says it's too soon for showmanship, but we'll be in halter class. It'll be us and a bunch of AQHA's; think the judge will notice us? Or should I wear an outfit with lots of bling-bling in order to be noticed? :) At our first showmanship lesson I was prepared to work on the fancy stuff, like how do you get him to pivot?? The lesson gal said, actually we need to work on leading. Verrry Humbling. So in a couple of weeks my growthy, gangley, wobbly, very sweet boy and I will be in a halter class at an open show for the first time. I think this will qualify as a *good experience* for us both! :) Find what you need at prices you‚ll love. Compare products and save at MSN® Shopping. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: ugly stages
This message is from: Sarah Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had always heard the saying they only look good at 3 days, 3 months and 3 years. But I did have one fast growing colt (warmblood) who reached 17 hands and he didn't really have all his peices pulled together until he was almost 5. Hopefully Fred being a Fjord will get there sooner. kate charboneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: kate charboneau Howdy List, I've been noticing how un-together my 3 year old gelding looks. I thought at 3 he'd be starting to come together, not fall apart worse!! Kate Fred ...who will stay mine even if he stays ugly, cuz he sure is sweet! Win a Zunemake MSN® your homepage for your chance to win! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw - Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: ugly stages
This message is from: Lois Anne Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been noticing how un-together my 3 year old gelding looks. I thought at 3 he'd be starting to come together, not fall apart worse!! Kate Fred ...who will stay mine even if he stays ugly, cuz he sure is sweet! hi Kate: Don't give up hope :) I'm sure Fred will come together in his own time and you will have a fine looking partner. I keep reading and hearing about everyone's advice to wait till Fjords are 3-5 years old before riding. Fred may be a late bloomer but I'm sure he'll be worth the wait. Sounds like the arena trip was a good experience for him to be exposed to. -- Lois Anne, Wayne, Gallant Geier and the Lovely Lana from Montana Tell me, and I'll probably forget. Show me, and I will remember, Involve me, and I will understand. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: ugly stages
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] My big gelding BJorken, is 15-2hh and he didn't stop growing until 8 years old. His dam, Stella, has a beautiful head, somewhat dished, not too big, and when he was a baby he had a head just like hers, . Then about 2 1/2 I suddenly noticed his head had grown huge, too big for his body, with a short neck, he was gangly, terribly out of proportion all over, looked narrow and just rather disjointed! Oh MyGod, what happened to my beautiful boy? At four he looked a lot better but was still narrow and gangly, and rather clumsy. I started training him at four, but his attention span was so short, and since I was no expert I waited until I could get a good instructor/trainer to really start him at five. At five, he was so much different in his attitude, in how he moved and handled his body, etc. But still rathernarrow and gangly. He grew another inch between five years old and eight years and didn't really start to look like a typical Fjord until he was 10, with some roundness (fatness?) His head now is in proportion to his body, shaped like his mothers, but much larger as he is overall much larger! He is in his prime, will be 20 in June. Yes, it takes time for them to mature! There is some evidence that horses raised here in Alaska also take longer to mature, perhaps due to the long cold winters, when it seems the body just put its efforts into maintaining itself, hooves don't grow much at all during the winter months here either, but on the other hand we have a surprisingly large number of very OLD horses here, they seem to live longer in this climate if they are given proper care. Stella, Bjorken's Dam, is 30 years old this spring, and acts like a young mare, no sway in her back, chases the young mare around, plays with Bjorken and shows no sign of age. Old Bjarne, who had a much harder life before I got him, is 32 this year, with some arthriitis and his back is somewhat swayed, but he is still going strong. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, sunny and cold again this morning! -25 degrees Don't give up hope :) I'm sure Fred will come together in his own time and _ Find what you need at prices youll love. Compare products and save at MSN® Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102tcode=T001MSN20A0701 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Ugly stages
This message is from: Emily Wigley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, indeed: 3 hours, 3 days, 3 months and their 3rd birthday they look grand in between and for a good while after they can be so goofy looking! Your fjord will get his parts in alignment -- hang in there! And as for the weak hind end, can you take him for walks on some gradual hills? Or turn him out in a sloped field? His hocks'll firm up as he matures and muscles. Happy fjording, Emily Emily Wigley Fish Bowl Farm Vashon Island, Washington http://www.fishbowlfarm.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 206-463-5473 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: ugly stages
This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kate, how tall is your boy expected to be? My 17 2 1/2 Trakehner was the gawkiest and most embarrassing creature until he was about six. He usually looked starved altho he had food all day. Hip high one time and hip low the next. Huge head before on a long skinny neck. He had to get on his knees to nurse, the neighborhood was embarrassed. But finally at about eight all came together with muscle and grace. So keep loving him, he will be Prince Charming soon. Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: ugly stages
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kate, if you're worried he may get too tall for you, try some trick training and train him to lay or kneel down for you to mount! Fun things to do with him before you train him to ride. Go to Allen Pogue's website for the DVD's, great instructions to teach your horse tricks, you can start with foals. Lots of fun! http://www.imagineahorse.com Go to the sales catalog page to find the DVD's: http://www.imagineahorse.com/SalesCatalog/InstructionalDVDs.htm Allen Pogue calls it Agility training for the horse's mind and body Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, still clear and cold will be -30 tonight. I've been starting to come to grips with the fact that my darling Fredlet might hit 15 hands. This is not good news, as I'll be transitioning to Fred from an aged 13.3h Welsh/Paint that I've thought was just a titch too tall. I really, really wanted dreamed of a draft pony, not a draft horse. But I'll take him as he is, even if he is too stinkin tall, because he really is so sweet and pleasant. I've also laid down the law with hubby and 21 year old daughter that NO ONE will ride Fred this year. Hubby is respectful, but daughter is still 21 and therefore knows so much more than Mom. _ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=10035url=%2fst.jsptm=ysearch=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6disc=yvers=743s=4056p=5117 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: ugly stages
This message is from: Lola Lahr [EMAIL PROTECTED] What a great idea! I actually had been thinking of doing just that with with one of my horse who is just too darned tall (16hh) for me to mount from the ground, which is not so good when you're out on the trail and you just have to get off for whatever reason. Thanks for the resource. On 2/27/07, Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kate, if you're worried he may get too tall for you, try some trick training and train him to lay or kneel down for you to mount! Fun things to do with him before you train him to ride. Go to Allen Pogue's website for the DVD's, great instructions to teach your horse tricks, you can start with foals. Lots of fun! http://www.imagineahorse.com Go to the sales catalog page to find the DVD's: http://www.imagineahorse.com/SalesCatalog/InstructionalDVDs.htm Allen Pogue calls it Agility training for the horse's mind and body Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, still clear and cold will be -30 tonight. I've been starting to come to grips with the fact that my darling Fredlet might hit 15 hands. This is not good news, as I'll be transitioning to Fred from an aged 13.3h Welsh/Paint that I've thought was just a titch too tall. I really, really wanted dreamed of a draft pony, not a draft horse. But I'll take him as he is, even if he is too stinkin tall, because he really is so sweet and pleasant. I've also laid down the law with hubby and 21 year old daughter that NO ONE will ride Fred this year. Hubby is respectful, but daughter is still 21 and therefore knows so much more than Mom. _ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=10035url=%2fst.jsptm=ysearch=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6disc=yvers=743s=4056p=5117 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
ugly stages
This message is from: kate charboneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Howdy List, I've been noticing how un-together my 3 year old gelding looks. Last summer he looked okay for a while, then everything grew except his neck, that was pretty bad, I was depressed about having a no-neck horse. Then the neck stretched out a bit he looked okay for a while. Now none of his parts look like they're meant for the same horse! He looks so growthy and really, actually, butt ugly nasty! ...he sure is sweet though... Two friends and I rented a heated indoor arena last week. My friends both show Arabs, and this was an Arab show barn's arena. It was my Fred's first big-fancy outing. We trailered (first time in a slant load) for about an hour to get there; since they picked us up, we were the last in the first out. We all wondered how long it would take him to unload; backing around the corner of the rear tack down out, but he was a champ actually put the experienced horses to shame with his calm, thoughtful manner. We used the barn aisles like an in-hand obstacle course; 24/7 stalled Arabs on both sides, gators pulling manure spreaders, wash racks, horses in training, a mama cat literally giving birth in a tie stall, big overly interested dogs. My fine gentleman really stood out with his wonderful behavior. Once he had gotten somewhat used to everything, he I played at Showmanship, then ground drove around the barn arena while my two friends rode. It was an awesome experience for my baby boy; but ground-driving behind him in the deep sand of the arena really showed me how weak his hind end is. With every step his hocks wobbled swayed! I've never seen anything like it. But also I've never ground driven in a super soft, deep arena before. Maybe that made it more obvious? Everyone in the barn commented on his sweet face (his only nice physical feature at present), wonderful disposition, and how very tuned-in to me his is. My friends also commented (gently) on how growthy he is (he's 2-3 higher at the hip than wither, and that hip keeps going up), and on how weak cowhocked his hind end is right now. Anyone else out there have/had a 3 year old that was this discombobulated? I thought at 3 he'd be starting to come together, not fall apart worse!! Kate Fred ...who will stay mine even if he stays ugly, cuz he sure is sweet! Win a Zunemake MSN® your homepage for your chance to win! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
