date:20080529

Thanks Rick,

indeed, downloading Transverter Pro is still possible, but activating the
product does not seem to work any longer.

I'll follow Dov's and Fred's recommendation (as usual) and import PDFs
instead.

Thanks.

Yves


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wrote:

 Hi Yves,

 Years ago I worked with a group migrating from Unix FrameMaker with
 Postscript display systems to Windows. As you can imagine, they were
 horrified by low-res EPS previews. I used a program called Transverter Pro
 to add high-res TIFF previews to their EPS files. Transverter Pro can
 process batches of files with a single command.

 Their web site (http://www.techpool.com/tpro.html) says that the product
 is
 discontinued, but it looks like you still may be able to download it.

 Rick Quatro
 Carmen Publishing
 585-659-8267
 www.frameexpert.com


  Hi Framers,
 
  when you import an EPS file into Frame, you get to see a low-res
  preview. Is there a way or a plug-in to optimize this preview or to
  get a high-res preview?
 
  Cheers
 
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  www.scripto.nu
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RE: Optimize preview of EPS files?

2008-05-29 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried

Hi Yves,

You could also add a preview via GhostScript (eventually
also with Epstool).
On this web-site various methods are described:
http://www.dfanning.com/tips/postscript_preview.html

Best regards

Winfried

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 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:25 AM
 To: Rick Quatro
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Optimize preview of EPS files?
 
 Thanks Rick,
 
 indeed, downloading Transverter Pro is still possible, but 
 activating the
 product does not seem to work any longer.
 
 I'll follow Dov's and Fred's recommendation (as usual) and import PDFs
 instead.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Yves
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Rick Quatro 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hi Yves,
 
  Years ago I worked with a group migrating from Unix FrameMaker with
  Postscript display systems to Windows. As you can imagine, they were
  horrified by low-res EPS previews. I used a program called 
 Transverter Pro
  to add high-res TIFF previews to their EPS files. 
 Transverter Pro can
  process batches of files with a single command.
 
  Their web site (http://www.techpool.com/tpro.html) says 
 that the product
  is
  discontinued, but it looks like you still may be able to 
 download it.
 
  Rick Quatro
  Carmen Publishing
  585-659-8267
  www.frameexpert.com
 
 
   Hi Framers,
  
   when you import an EPS file into Frame, you get to see a low-res
   preview. Is there a way or a plug-in to optimize this 
 preview or to
   get a high-res preview?
  
   Cheers
  
   --
   Yves Barbion
   www.scripto.nu
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I cannot get pdfmark to work

2008-05-29 Thread Andersen, Verner Engell VEA

Hello

 

I insert the following in a postscript frame on my forntpage of my
manual:

 

[/PageMode /UseOutlines /Page 2 /View [/XYZ null null null]/DOCVIEW
pdfmark

 

I want my pdf file to open on page 2 when opened. It does not seem to
work. Is the syntax wrong or do you know of another way of making pdf
files created from framemakeropen on a specific page. I use Framemaker
7.2

 

Best regards,

 

Verner Andersen


Radiometer Medical ApS 
Akandevej 21 
DK-2700 Bronshoj 
Denmark 
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Re: I cannot get pdfmark to work

Hi Verner,

have you tried Format  Document  PDF Setup  Settings tab  Open PDF
Document on Page 2?

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 I insert the following in a postscript frame on my forntpage of my
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 pdfmark



 I want my pdf file to open on page 2 when opened. It does not seem to
 work. Is the syntax wrong or do you know of another way of making pdf
 files created from framemakeropen on a specific page. I use Framemaker
 7.2



 Best regards,



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Re: I cannot get pdfmark to work


Verner,

You wrote:

I insert the following in a postscript frame on my forntpage of my
manual:

[/PageMode /UseOutlines /Page 2 /View [/XYZ null null null]/DOCVIEW
pdfmark

I want my pdf file to open on page 2 when opened. It does not seem to
work. Is the syntax wrong or do you know of another way of making pdf
files created from framemakeropen on a specific page. I use Framemaker
7.2


The syntax is correct. However, the command is overridden by FrameMaker 7.2 
own setting of the initial page.

You can indicate the opening page in FM7.2 PDF Setup dialog box (Format  
Document  PDF Setup).


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Text-related search question

2008-05-29 Thread Eli Har-Even

How do I search for paragraphs that do not end with a period?
I've played around with wildcards in the Find/change box, with no success.

Thanks,
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RE: Optimize preview of EPS files?

Framers,

PSAlter from Quite can also add preview to most documents with PostScript level 
1 and 2 content. I'm unaware whether or not you can define custom resolution of 
the generated preview, though.

Anyway, be aware about a possible limitation with importing PDF documents into 
Windows FrameMaker. SPOT colors may not be safeguarded downstream.

On 6. March 2008 I posted a comment on this issue to the Frameusers list 
(topic: PDFFrameMakerPDF Color Issue). I'll copy in a small part here:

~ Copy from topic: PDFFrameMakerPDF Color Issue ~

On Page 14 in Adobe® FrameMaker® 7.2 User Guide Supplement for Windows® and 
UNIX® it's stated:
 
snip

Importing PDF and Illustrator files (UNIX)
--

You can import Adobe PDF files and Illustrator 9 and 10 files into a FrameMaker 
document in release 7.1 or later.

When you import a PDF or Illustrator file into FrameMaker, the file is treated 
as a graphic, and only one page can be imported at a time. You can import it 
either by copy or by reference.

*** Both process and spot colors can be displayed and printed ***.

/snip

This statement seem to be faulty. At least, on Windows spot colors contained in 
imported PDF documents appear NOT to be retained when output from FrameMaker on 
Windows, and will -- as far as I can see -- effectively output as defined in 
their alternate color space, usually CMYK.

Hence, importing spot colored PDF documents is to no avail with FrameMaker on 
Windows. I haven't tested on other platforms.
  
~ End copy 

For further details please refer to the PDFFrameMakerPDF Color Issue topic.

I'm unaware whether or not this inexpediency is still present with release 8 
versions, but I certainly suspect it is. I have neither seen any official 
statement from a Adobe representative that confirm the inappropriateness nor 
its fix.

Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
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Grafikhuset
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 Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Sendt: 29. maj 2008 09:25
 Til: Rick Quatro
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Emne: Re: Optimize preview of EPS files?
 
 
 Thanks Rick,
 
 indeed, downloading Transverter Pro is still possible, but 
 activating the product does not seem to work any longer.
 
 I'll follow Dov's and Fred's recommendation (as usual) and 
 import PDFs instead.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Yves
 
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Rick Quatro 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hi Yves,
 
  Years ago I worked with a group migrating from Unix FrameMaker with 
  Postscript display systems to Windows. As you can imagine, 
 they were 
  horrified by low-res EPS previews. I used a program called 
 Transverter 
  Pro to add high-res TIFF previews to their EPS files. 
 Transverter Pro 
  can process batches of files with a single command.
 
  Their web site (http://www.techpool.com/tpro.html) says that the 
  product is discontinued, but it looks like you still may be able to 
  download it.
 
  Rick Quatro
  Carmen Publishing
  585-659-8267
  www.frameexpert.com
 
 
   Hi Framers,
  
   when you import an EPS file into Frame, you get to see a low-res 
   preview. Is there a way or a plug-in to optimize this 
 preview or 
   to get a high-res preview?
  
   Cheers
  
   --
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publishing problems for Kazakh

2008-05-29 Thread Anneke von den Hoff

Hello Framers,

I hope there is someone out there who can help me…

I am publishing a document in Kazakh language in Structured FrameMaker7.2 in
combination with a CMS.

For Russian and sort-like languages I use Arial Cyr, with a unicode mapping
table

Kazakh uses some extended cyrillic characters not supported by Arial CYR.

(Бұл жалпы шолу бөлімі қолдану барысында тағамдарыңызды пісіру және қайнатудың )

I use PragmaticaI to publish Kazakh, and in FrameMaker it works fine (I must
admit that mapping the small character (қ) was not possible….).

But when I print this document to printer or to file (PDF) two charactes (Қ and
қ) don’t publish, they leave a blanc.

Now I have no idea what causes this, and more important how to solve this.

Is there anyoune who has some experience with this?

Is my font not correct? Does anyone know about another font?

Thanks in advance!

Anneke Von den Hoff

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RE: Optimize preview of EPS files?

Creating previews with Ghostscript (which internally seem to use the EPSWrite 
device) will -- if I'm not mistaken -- convert a lot of graphic elements and 
text to bitmaps, and all colors will turn into plain RGB. Hence, the resulting 
EPS document may not be device independent anymore.

I haven't tried this myself with the latest GS versions, but until a few years 
back I've only seen poor results.

An ideal tool for adding EPS previews is a tool that doesn't make any 
conversion of the content stream, but ONLY interpret that stream and add the 
result hereof as a preview header. I'm not sure that is possible with 
Ghostscript or GSView.

Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
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Grafikhuset
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 Til: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Emne: RE: Optimize preview of EPS files?
 
 
 Hi Yves,
 
 You could also add a preview via GhostScript (eventually
 also with Epstool).
 On this web-site various methods are described: 
 http://www.dfanning.com/tips/postscript_preview.html
 
 Best regards
 
 Winfried
 
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  Yves Barbion
  Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:25 AM
  To: Rick Quatro
  Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: Re: Optimize preview of EPS files?
  
  Thanks Rick,
  
  indeed, downloading Transverter Pro is still possible, but
  activating the
  product does not seem to work any longer.
  
  I'll follow Dov's and Fred's recommendation (as usual) and 
 import PDFs 
  instead.
  
  Thanks.
  
  Yves
  
  
  On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Rick Quatro
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
   Hi Yves,
  
   Years ago I worked with a group migrating from Unix 
 FrameMaker with 
   Postscript display systems to Windows. As you can 
 imagine, they were 
   horrified by low-res EPS previews. I used a program called
  Transverter Pro
   to add high-res TIFF previews to their EPS files.
  Transverter Pro can
   process batches of files with a single command.
  
   Their web site (http://www.techpool.com/tpro.html) says
  that the product
   is
   discontinued, but it looks like you still may be able to
  download it.
  
   Rick Quatro
   Carmen Publishing
   585-659-8267
   www.frameexpert.com
  
  
Hi Framers,
   
when you import an EPS file into Frame, you get to see 
 a low-res 
preview. Is there a way or a plug-in to optimize this
  preview or to
get a high-res preview?
   
Cheers
   
--
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www.scripto.nu
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IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

Hello Framers,
here I'm presenting an impossible task. :-).
I have a 300 pages document which consists of 9 sections. I need to generate an 
index for it. Page number format should look like this: X-PP, where X is a 
section number and PP - page number. Had I separate files, that would not be a 
problem - make a book and off you go. I have 1 and I don't want split it for 
certain reasons.
So, is there a way to accomplish this numbering in one file? I know in InDesign 
that is totally possible with Section'ing the document. What about Frame?
 
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Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

It's a clunky solution predicated by your keeping the book in one
file, but just set up different master pages. The only difference
between master pages or sets of master pages would be the differing Xs
hard-coded into the footers: one set for Section 1, one set for
Section 2, etc.

Apply those masters to the appropriate selections of pages and you're done.

Art

P.S. Why do you think it has to be in a single file?

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 Hello Framers,
 here I'm presenting an impossible task. :-).
 I have a 300 pages document which consists of 9 sections. I need to generate 
 an index for it. Page number format should look like this: X-PP, where X is a 
 section number and PP - page number. Had I separate files, that would not be 
 a problem - make a book and off you go. I have 1 and I don't want split it 
 for certain reasons.
 So, is there a way to accomplish this numbering in one file? I know in 
 InDesign that is totally possible with Section'ing the document. What about 
 Frame?

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Re: publishing problems for Kazakh

It could be a font file error, but it sounds to me as if Acrobat may
not have access to the same fonts that FM does.
In your Acrobat set up, there's a font location item. Make sure that
all font directories. Also, make sure that Acrobat is set as the
system's default printer, to eliminate the possiblity that
printer-specific fonts are being invoked.

Art

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Anneke von den Hoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Framers,

I hope there is someone out there who can help me…

I am publishing a document in Kazakh language in Structured FrameMaker7.2 in
combination with a CMS.

For Russian and sort-like languages I use Arial Cyr, with a unicode mapping
table

Kazakh uses some extended cyrillic characters not supported by Arial CYR.

(Бұл жалпы шолу бөлімі қолдану барысында тағамдарыңызды пісіру және
қайнатудың )

I use PragmaticaI to publish Kazakh, and in FrameMaker it works fine (I must
admit that mapping the small character (қ) was not possible….).

But when I print this document to printer or to file (PDF) two charactes (Қ
and қ) don't publish, they leave a blanc.

Now I have no idea what causes this, and more important how to solve this.

Is there anyoune who has some experience with this?

Is my font not correct? Does anyone know about another font?

Thanks in advance!

Anneke Von den Hoff

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Re: Text-related search question

Eli,

You wrote:

How do I search for paragraphs that do not end with a period?
I've played around with wildcards in the Find/change box, with no success.

[^.]\p

(with Use Wildcards selected).


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Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

So Michael, what you're asking is if you can have one format of page
numbers on the pages and a second, different format in the Index?
Is that correct?

***
Just in passing, almost all actions that can be applied to a file can
also be applied to every file in a book -- that's the way most FM
users ensure consistency. The ability to enforce strict standards is
the reason it's a publishing industry standard applications.

Art


On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Michael Zaichenko
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 Hello Art,
 Hmm, you lost me a bit. I'm not talking about having numbers in the
 Headers/Footers. I'm talking about generating Index with these X-PP in it.
 As to P.S. well, I have a very strict standard on typesetting and all
 elements MUST be very consistent (plus I do certain actions on the whole
 product and to do it per file would multiply the time that much), so, to
 keep it all within fast reach, I do it one-file-way. I can't afford
 updating my documents wholesale in other words.

 Michael




 
 Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:37:06 -0400
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL
 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com

 It's a clunky solution predicated by your keeping the book in one
 file, but just set up different master pages. The only difference
 between master pages or sets of master pages would be the differing Xs
 hard-coded into the footers: one set for Section 1, one set for
 Section 2, etc.

 Apply those masters to the appropriate selections of pages and you're
 done.

 Art

 P.S. Why do you think it has to be in a single file?

 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Michael Zaichenko
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello Framers,
  here I'm presenting an impossible task. :-).
  I have a 300 pages document which consists of 9 sections. I need to
  generate an index for it. Page number format should look like this: X-PP,
  where X is a section number and PP - page number. Had I separate files, 
  that
  would not be a problem - make a book and off you go. I have 1 and I don't
  want split it for certain reasons.
  So, is there a way to accomplish this numbering in one file? I know in
  InDesign that is totally possible with Section'ing the document. What about
  Frame?
 
  Michael
  


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anchored frame alignment with insertion point

2008-05-29 Thread Aravindhan T S

Hi All,

i'm trying to find out a method to have the anchored frame which is inserted
at insertion point to come aligned over the text.

please see the attached image.

As of now, i'm manually resizing the anchored frame to acheive this.

As the anchored frame uses the paragraph tag, which is being used, can we
set this so that it comes out properly at the first place?

Thanks,
Aravind
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RE: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

Hi Michael,

It is possible - provided that your section numbers are generated using 
paragraph autonumbering. 

First, if you've not already generated an index for the doc, do so.

Then, in the generated index file, view the references pages. There should be a 
page called IX (with a flow called IX). This page controlls the sort order of 
the index, and other things like the appearance of index entries.

One of the paras on the page should be:

$pagenum

Change it to:

$paranumonly[Section]-$pagenum

Where Section should be changed to the paragraph tag you are using for your 
sections. It's a good idea to use a non-breaking hyphen (esc hyphen h) so that 
the section and page numbers don't get split in the index.

Regenerate the index and you should get the required X-PP format.

Rob

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Sent: 29 May 2008 12:19
To: FrameUsers Users
Subject: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

Hello Framers,
here I'm presenting an impossible task. :-).
I have a 300 pages document which consists of 9 sections. I need to generate an 
index for it. Page number format should look like this: X-PP, where X is a 
section number and PP - page number. Had I separate files, that would not be a 
problem - make a book and off you go. I have 1 and I don't want split it for 
certain reasons.
So, is there a way to accomplish this numbering in one file? I know in InDesign 
that is totally possible with Section'ing the document. What about Frame?
 
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Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

2008-05-29 Thread Rick Quatro

Hi Rob,

This type of building block:

$paranumonly[Section]

does not work in generated files. You will get the closest previous 
autonumber to the index marker instead of any that you specify in square 
brackets.

Rick Quatro
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585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


Hi Michael,

It is possible - provided that your section numbers are generated using 
paragraph autonumbering.

First, if you've not already generated an index for the doc, do so.

Then, in the generated index file, view the references pages. There should 
be a page called IX (with a flow called IX). This page controlls the sort 
order of the index, and other things like the appearance of index entries.

One of the paras on the page should be:

$pagenum

Change it to:

$paranumonly[Section]-$pagenum

Where Section should be changed to the paragraph tag you are using for 
your sections. It's a good idea to use a non-breaking hyphen (esc hyphen h) 
so that the section and page numbers don't get split in the index.

Regenerate the index and you should get the required X-PP format.

Rob

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RE: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

Well, what I figured and is working...
 
I added autonumbering to my Section paragraphs. Position of the numbers at the 
end of the paragraph so it doesn't throw the position off-center and tagged 
with a chartag that colors it white. $paranumonly[Section] does work fine in 
generated files providing you have this autonumbering on. Final product looks 
satisfactory and this method allows me to use more files to generate from - 
i.e. cross-indexing.
 
Any other thoughts?
 
Michael



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 Subject: Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:48:34 -0400 
  Hi Rob,  This type of building block:  $paranumonly[Section]  does 
 not work in generated files. You will get the closest previous  autonumber 
 to the index marker instead of any that you specify in square  brackets.  
 Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com   Hi 
 Michael,  It is possible - provided that your section numbers are generated 
 using  paragraph autonumbering.  First, if you've not already generated an 
 index for the doc, do so.  Then, in the generated index file, view the 
 references pages. There should  be a page called IX (with a flow called IX). 
 This page controlls the sort  order of the index, and other things like the 
 appearance of index entries.  One of the paras on the page should be:  
 $pagenum  Change it to:  $paranumonly[Section]-$pagenum  Where 
 Section should be changed to the paragraph tag you are using for  your 
 sections. It's a good idea to use a non-breaking hyphen (esc hyphen h)  so 
 that the section and page numbers don't get split in the index.  Regenerate 
 the index and you should get the required X-PP format.  Rob  
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RE: Marketing a product: which language for the documentation

2008-05-29 Thread Kelly McDaniel

I used to do this kind of work and also hire it done in the specialty
food trade. I can tell you without hesitancy that you will save money in
the long run if you hire a consultant/broker engaged in this line of
work to advise you on or handle all of the requirements.

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 Assuming the GPS product will be marketed to general consumers, it
would have to
 be translated. And you're right to ask if the European Union has
regulations. I
 don't know if they do, but I wouldn't be surprised. I imagine there's
an EU web
 site with the answer.

 = Mike Bradley
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Re: anchored frame alignment with insertion point

Aravindhan T S wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 i'm trying to find out a method to have the anchored frame which is inserted
 at insertion point to come aligned over the text.
 
 please see the attached image.
 
 As of now, i'm manually resizing the anchored frame to acheive this.
 
 As the anchored frame uses the paragraph tag, which is being used, can we
 set this so that it comes out properly at the first place?
 
 Thanks,
 Aravind

Aravind,

The list server strips out attachments, and your description of the 
problem is unclear.

Please either re-post your message with a better description of what you 
are trying to do, or if you like, send me your image off-list and I will 
try to help.

best regards,

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Re: anchored frame alignment with insertion point

Aravind,

No attachment came through, but I think I understand your goal: graphic 
alignment at the level of indentation of the surrounding text.

We achieve this by having the graphic inserted At Insertion Point in a special 
formatting paragraph we call Spacer. The Spacer format has tabs at each 
possible indentation level. So, after you insert the graphic, you just 
back-arrow to get left of the graphic, and tab over as many times as desired.

Hope that helps! If not, send me the attachment so I can more clearly grasp the 
issue.

 
Rene L. Stephenson



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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:35:49 AM
Subject: anchored frame alignment with insertion point

Hi All,

i'm trying to find out a method to have the anchored frame which is inserted
at insertion point to come aligned over the text.

please see the attached image.

As of now, i'm manually resizing the anchored frame to acheive this.

As the anchored frame uses the paragraph tag, which is being used, can we
set this so that it comes out properly at the first place?

Thanks,
Aravind
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RE: Barcode font

2008-05-29 Thread Don Laux

Hi Will,

There are lots and lots of different barcode fonts out there. Each will
encode the barcode string (the information that the barcode represents)
differently.

So the barcode font you should use really depends on the scanner device that
will interpret the barcode. The best analogy off the top of my head is that
it's like a codec. The information must be encoded so the interpreter can
understand it. The barcode font you use determines the encoding.

You need to find out what flavor of barcode is expected by the interpreting
device. There may even be some precise positioning and orientation
requirements for the barcode if it will be mechanically scanned in an
automated fashion, such as with folding/inserting devices or mail sorters.

3of9 is very common, but there are many, many others.

Wikipedia has a decent overview of barcodes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcode

IDAutomation has a bunch of barcode fonts you can download:
http://www.idautomation.com/fonts/

But find out which one you need first...

HTH

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Solimar Systems, Inc.

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Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:13:11 -0700
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Hi Will,

We use a barcode font called 3of9. Works very well.

Diane Gaskill


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Subject: Barcode font


Hi Framers -
Anyone out in FrameLandia know of a barcode font? There doesn't
appear to be one in the usual Windoze offering (or I am not looking
in the right places).
Any advice appreciated.

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RE: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

Well spotted Rick,

Serves me right for trying it out on a simple file... I'd forgotten that
behaviour (or lack of it) in generated files.

I guess the other alternative is to not use any other autonumbering in
the rest of the document (just like using Word...)

Rob

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To: Robert Evans; FrameUsers Users
Subject: Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

Hi Rob,

This type of building block:

$paranumonly[Section]

does not work in generated files. You will get the closest previous 
autonumber to the index marker instead of any that you specify in square

brackets.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


Hi Michael,

It is possible - provided that your section numbers are generated using 
paragraph autonumbering.

First, if you've not already generated an index for the doc, do so.

Then, in the generated index file, view the references pages. There
should 
be a page called IX (with a flow called IX). This page controlls the
sort 
order of the index, and other things like the appearance of index
entries.

One of the paras on the page should be:

$pagenum

Change it to:

$paranumonly[Section]-$pagenum

Where Section should be changed to the paragraph tag you are using for

your sections. It's a good idea to use a non-breaking hyphen (esc hyphen
h) 
so that the section and page numbers don't get split in the index.

Regenerate the index and you should get the required X-PP format.

Rob



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Separating Color and BW pages for printing

2008-05-29 Thread Steve Nolte

Has anyone created a process in either standard or structured FM to
automatically separate the color pages from the BW so they can be sent to
separate printers? Due to the high cost and slower printing speed of the
color printer, we need to separate these pages to minimize both the costs
and printing time.

At this time, we generate a PDF and manually create 2 separate PDF files to
send to the BW and Color printers. I believe there is a better option and
am hoping someone has already done it and is willing to share their
solution. We're open to any suggestions.

Thanks.

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Basic question- Visio to Frame

2008-05-29 Thread Krishna Mukherjee


Hi,
 
I have about 10 figures in Visio that need to go into my Frame document. Would 
a simple cut and paste work or is there a preferred method of working with 
Visio files if they are to be incorporated into the Frame Doc?
 
Windows XP/Frame 7.2 (unstructured)
 
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Help, cannot import objects from visio

2008-05-29 Thread Melissa Di Natale

Hi there,

 

I am currently using Visio 2007 and FrameMaker 7.1. I used to be able to import 
objects (Fileà importàobjectàCreate from file) from visio (saved as drawings or 
vsd) into Frame. Recently, if I try to import an object it lets me, but when I 
save I get the following error message: An internal error occurred while 
writing imported graphics in this document. The file has been saved, but has 
lost some image data. Although the file does not save.  I can't figure out why 
this is occurring. No updates have been made to visio or frame that I am aware 
of so I'm not sure why this process no longer works? Has anybody had this 
problem. And, if you import flowcharts etc from visio what is the process you 
use? 

 

Thank you!

Melissa

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Re: Basic question- Visio to Frame

The accepted way to do this was to import Visio files as OLE objects,
however OLE didn't always work reliably, especially if you were doing
several files. Just lately, after installing XP SP3, even that limited
method quit working for me and several others who have reported
problems.

If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file.

Art

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 I have about 10 figures in Visio that need to go into my Frame document. 
 Would a simple cut and paste work or is there a preferred method of working 
 with Visio files if they are to be incorporated into the Frame Doc?

 Windows XP/Frame 7.2 (unstructured)

 Thanks,Krishna

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Re: Help, cannot import objects from visio

This was reported a couple weeks ago on this and several other FM
sites, just after XP SP3 was released (it includes OLE fixes).

Uninstalling SP3 re-enables OLE linking and makes the error messages
go away; keeping it installed keeps it broken. I haven't heard of any
work arounds or that the Microsoft fix is actually broken.

If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file
rather than as an object.

Art
.

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Melissa Di Natale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi there,



 I am currently using Visio 2007 and FrameMaker 7.1. I used to be able to 
 import objects (Fileà importàobjectàCreate from file) from visio (saved as 
 drawings or vsd) into Frame. Recently, if I try to import an object it lets 
 me, but when I save I get the following error message: An internal error 
 occurred while writing imported graphics in this document. The file has been 
 saved, but has lost some image data. Although the file does not save.  I 
 can't figure out why this is occurring. No updates have been made to visio or 
 frame that I am aware of so I'm not sure why this process no longer works? 
 Has anybody had this problem. And, if you import flowcharts etc from visio 
 what is the process you use?



 Thank you!

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Re: Basic question- Visio to Frame

2008-05-29 Thread Milan Davidovic

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
 format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file.

When I had to do this (a couple of years ago), I was advised to save
the Visio diagram as a .wmf file, and then import that.

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Re: Basic question- Visio to Frame

2008-05-29 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer

Milan, et al ...

 When I had to do this (a couple of years ago), I was advised to 
save the Visio diagram as a .wmf file, and then import that.

I've had all kinds of text/font related problems trying to use *.wmf 
files created by Visio in the past. Perhaps things have improved 
since, but I often found text from diagrams had shifted or was 
missing altogether. *.emf files were better but not better enough.

I use Illustrator instead.

Dennis Brunnenmeyer...
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On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
  format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file.

When I had to do this (a couple of years ago), I was advised to save
the Visio diagram as a .wmf file, and then import that.

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RE: Basic question- Visio to Frame

2008-05-29 Thread Fred Ridder


Commenting on how to import figures from Visio, Milan Davidovic wrote:
 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
  format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file.
 
 When I had to do this (a couple of years ago), I was advised to save
 the Visio diagram as a .wmf file, and then import that.
 
The problem with WMF is that the format only embeds the *name* of the
font(s) used for any text objects in the figure and not the font itself. 
This is OK if you are the only one ever working on the files, but it has the
potential to be a real PITA if you use non-ubiquitous fonts and need to
hand the files off to someone else for any purpose.
 
Printing the Visio figure to PDF and inserting the PDF by reference is the 
method I've used with great success for several years. Originally I used 
that method because the EPS export filter in Visio was chronically broken 
(before Microsoft dropped it from the product altogether...), but I wound 
up adopting PDF as my metafile format of choice for all graphics since 
it has all the same benefits as EPS for printed (or PDF) output and also 
has superb appearance on-screen as opposed to the low-res raster 
preview image you get with EPS.
 
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Re: Basic question- Visio to Frame

I've been successfully exporting TIF files from Visio and just importing that 
into FM by reference. The OLE stuff for Visio if FM does work, but it's really 
quirky/flaky with our files...although, that might be due to still using Visio 
2003!!

 
Rene L. Stephenson



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Subject: Re: Basic question- Visio to Frame

Milan, et al ...

When I had to do this (a couple of years ago), I was advised to 
save the Visio diagram as a .wmf file, and then import that.

I've had all kinds of text/font related problems trying to use *.wmf 
files created by Visio in the past. Perhaps things have improved 
since, but I often found text from diagrams had shifted or was 
missing altogether. *.emf files were better but not better enough.

I use Illustrator instead.

Dennis Brunnenmeyer...
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At 11:50 AM 5/29/2008, Milan Davidovic wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
  format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file.

When I had to do this (a couple of years ago), I was advised to save
the Visio diagram as a .wmf file, and then import that.

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RE: Basic question- Visio to Frame

Rene Stephenson wrote:
 
 I've been successfully exporting TIF files from Visio and just
importing
 that into FM by reference. 

I'm afraid that's one of the raster file formats I suggested is an
unwise choice for a vector drawing. 

If you're delivering only printed docs and use a sufficiently high
resolution for your TIFFs, it may work OK. But if you deliver PDFs, you
might want to check the diagrams in the PDFs at some
higher-magnification zoom settings. 

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OT: Attaching a graphic to a paragraph tag in Word (like we can do in FM) - is this possible?

For all of us Frame users out there who must suffer through Word every
now and then (and for all you Word gurus and guruesses, whom I admire
heavily for keeping your sanity) - in Framemaker, we can permanently
have a graphic placed on a page every time we use a particular paragraph
style. For example, every time I use the Heading1 style in my templates,
I have a graphic called Heading1Line that is always placed beneath the
text of the tag (through the Advanced Paragraph Properties/Reference
page function in FM.) Is there a way to do this in Word? 

I am heaving to set up a Word template for some of my professional
services folks that mimics our FM templates and I am stymied as how to
accomplish this in Word. 

TIA,

TVB

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OT: Attaching a graphic to a format in Word - part II

 Further clarification:

I actually want to use the same Heading1Line graphic in my Word
document. Every time I enter a Heading1, I want the graphic to appear
like it does in FM. How do I do that? It can't be in my Header or Footer
as it needs to be in the body of the document, and I can't recreate the
line using the Borders and Shading Option.  

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Oops, Freudian slip - I am having to set up, not heaving, but that being
said. . . This is causing me to heave! 

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Subject: [stclwrsig-l] Attaching a graphic to a format in Word?

For all of us Frame users out there who must suffer through Word every
now and then (and for all you Word gurus and guruesses, whom I admire
heavily for keeping your sanity) - in Framemaker, we can permanently
have a graphic placed on a page every time we use a particular paragraph
style. For example, every time I use the Heading1 style in my templates,
I have a graphic called Heading1Line that is always placed beneath the
text of the tag (through the Advanced Paragraph Properties/Reference
page function in FM.) Is there a way to do this in Word? 

I am heaving to set up a Word template for some of my professional
services folks that mimics our FM templates and I am stymied as how to
accomplish this in Word. 

TIA,

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Health Language, Inc.

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RE: Attaching a graphic to a paragraph tag in Word (like we can do inFM) - is this possible?

Tammy Van Boening wrote: 
 
 For all of us Frame users out there who must suffer through Word every
 now and then (and for all you Word gurus and guruesses, whom I admire
 heavily for keeping your sanity) - in Framemaker, we can permanently
 have a graphic placed on a page every time we use a particular
paragraph
 style. For example, every time I use the Heading1 style in my
templates,
 I have a graphic called Heading1Line that is always placed beneath the
 text of the tag (through the Advanced Paragraph Properties/Reference
 page function in FM.) Is there a way to do this in Word?

Actually, this is something that's much easier and more powerful in Word
because you can add lines, boxes, shading, etc., to the pgf style
definition. 

In the Modify Style dialog, click Format  Border (that's 2007; might be
a bit different navigation in other versions). 

HTH!
Richard 


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Re: OT: Attaching a graphic to a format in Word - part II

Tammy Van Boening wrote:
  Further clarification:
 
 I actually want to use the same Heading1Line graphic in my Word
 document. Every time I enter a Heading1, I want the graphic to appear
 like it does in FM. How do I do that? It can't be in my Header or Footer
 as it needs to be in the body of the document, 




and I can't recreate the
 line using the Borders and Shading Option.  
 

Can you elaborate on why not?  (There may be a way.)



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Barcode font

What about the usual OCR fonts? I though that is the standard.

Michael



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> font called 3of9. Works very well.> > Diane Gaskill> > > -Original 
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why is Frame 8 slower than Frame 6 to import eps files

2008-05-29 Thread Dave Reynolds

Hi Folks

A few weeks ago, while testing Frame 8 and how it handled one of our 
typical manuals, I noticed that some graphics imported by reference from 
a network server were very slow to display on the page (note that this 
slow display only occurs the first time the graphic is displayed; 
thereafter it seems to go into memory and displays instantly).  To cut a 
long story short, I eventually found that the main reason for this was 
because our new antivirus software was scanning all files imported or 
opened over the network.  Our IT people solved this problem by changing 
the configuration of the antivirus software to not scan certain file types.

However, when I did some more testing to verify that they had indeed 
fixed the problem, I noticed that (even with the problem fixed) Frame 8 
took longer than Frame 6 to display the same eps graphic.  I created new 
test files in Frame 6 and 8 and imported the same graphics into each 
file in the same way (by reference from our illustrations database on 
our network).  The Frame test files have 3 eps graphics, and one each of 
tif, jpg, bmp and wmf.  Only the eps files take longer to display in 
Frame 8 than Frame 6 - the other graphics take the same time in each 
version (typically 1 second or less). 

The delay in Frame 8 is most obvious when displaying the two eps files 
that show part or all of a circuit board layout:  the 1.6MB eps 
typically displays in 2 seconds in Frame 6, and in 7 seconds in Frame 
8;  the 3.9MB eps typically displays in 4 seconds in Frame 6, and in 13 
seconds in Frame 8.  I realise there is a lot of detail to display in 
these eps files, but why does the same file take that much longer to 
display in Frame 8 than in Frame 6?  I've run this test in both versions 
at different times and have had consistent results.  For the record, the 
third eps is a 740kB block diagram (mostly lines and some text) and 
displays in both versions in about one second or less (although still 
slightly slower in Frame 8 than 6).

Just to make it a bit more curious, I copied the same graphics from the 
network into the same folder as the Frame test files and reimported them 
from there.  They all displayed in 1 second or less in both Frame 6 and 8.

Anybody have any ideas as to why this is happening?  Does Frame 8 have 
different filters for eps?

I'm running Windows XP on a Pentium 4 dual core 3GHz PC with 1GB RAM.  
The eps files were exported from CorelDraw 10 with a low-res tif preview.

Cheers

Dave

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Optimize preview of EPS files?

Thanks Rick,

indeed, downloading Transverter Pro is still possible, but activating the
product does not seem to work any longer.

I'll follow Dov's and Fred's recommendation (as usual) and import PDFs
instead.

Thanks.

Yves


On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Rick Quatro 
wrote:

> Hi Yves,
>
> Years ago I worked with a group migrating from Unix FrameMaker with
> Postscript display systems to Windows. As you can imagine, they were
> horrified by low-res EPS previews. I used a program called Transverter Pro
> to add high-res TIFF previews to their EPS files. Transverter Pro can
> process batches of files with a single command.
>
> Their web site (http://www.techpool.com/tpro.html) says that the product
> is
> discontinued, but it looks like you still may be able to download it.
>
> Rick Quatro
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>
>
> > Hi Framers,
> >
> > when you import an EPS file into Frame, you get to see a low-res
> > preview. Is there a way or a plug-in to "optimize" this preview or to
> > get a high-res preview?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
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Optimize preview of EPS files?

2008-05-29 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried

Hi Yves,

You could also add a preview via GhostScript (eventually
also with Epstool).
On this web-site various methods are described:
http://www.dfanning.com/tips/postscript_preview.html

Best regards

Winfried

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> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Yves Barbion
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:25 AM
> To: Rick Quatro
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Optimize preview of EPS files?
> 
> Thanks Rick,
> 
> indeed, downloading Transverter Pro is still possible, but 
> activating the
> product does not seem to work any longer.
> 
> I'll follow Dov's and Fred's recommendation (as usual) and import PDFs
> instead.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Yves
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Rick Quatro 
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Yves,
> >
> > Years ago I worked with a group migrating from Unix FrameMaker with
> > Postscript display systems to Windows. As you can imagine, they were
> > horrified by low-res EPS previews. I used a program called 
> Transverter Pro
> > to add high-res TIFF previews to their EPS files. 
> Transverter Pro can
> > process batches of files with a single command.
> >
> > Their web site (http://www.techpool.com/tpro.html) says 
> that the product
> > is
> > discontinued, but it looks like you still may be able to 
> download it.
> >
> > Rick Quatro
> > Carmen Publishing
> > 585-659-8267
> > www.frameexpert.com
> >
> >
> > > Hi Framers,
> > >
> > > when you import an EPS file into Frame, you get to see a low-res
> > > preview. Is there a way or a plug-in to "optimize" this 
> preview or to
> > > get a high-res preview?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > --
> > > Yves Barbion
> > > www.scripto.nu

I cannot get pdfmark to work

2008-05-29 Thread Andersen, Verner Engell VEA

Hello



I insert the following in a postscript frame on my forntpage of my
manual:



[/PageMode /UseOutlines /Page 2 /View [/XYZ null null null]/DOCVIEW
pdfmark



I want my pdf file to open on page 2 when opened. It does not seem to
work. Is the syntax wrong or do you know of another way of making pdf
files created from framemakeropen on a specific page. I use Framemaker
7.2



Best regards,



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I cannot get pdfmark to work

Hi Verner,

have you tried Format > Document > PDF Setup > Settings tab > Open PDF
Document on Page 2?

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verner.andersen at radiometer.dk> wrote:

> Hello
>
>
>
> I insert the following in a postscript frame on my forntpage of my
> manual:
>
>
>
> [/PageMode /UseOutlines /Page 2 /View [/XYZ null null null]/DOCVIEW
> pdfmark
>
>
>
> I want my pdf file to open on page 2 when opened. It does not seem to
> work. Is the syntax wrong or do you know of another way of making pdf
> files created from framemakeropen on a specific page. I use Framemaker
> 7.2
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Verner Andersen
> 
>
> Radiometer Medical ApS
> Akandevej 21
> DK-2700 Bronshoj
> Denmark
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I cannot get pdfmark to work


Verner,

You wrote:

>I insert the following in a postscript frame on my forntpage of my
>manual:
>
>[/PageMode /UseOutlines /Page 2 /View [/XYZ null null null]/DOCVIEW
>pdfmark
>
>I want my pdf file to open on page 2 when opened. It does not seem to
>work. Is the syntax wrong or do you know of another way of making pdf
>files created from framemakeropen on a specific page. I use Framemaker
>7.2


The syntax is correct. However, the command is overridden by FrameMaker 7.2 
own setting of the initial page.

You can indicate the opening page in FM7.2 PDF Setup dialog box (Format > 
Document > PDF Setup).


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Text-related search question

2008-05-29 Thread Eli Har-Even

How do I search for paragraphs that do not end with a period?
I've played around with wildcards in the Find/change box, with no success.

Thanks,
Eli.

Optimize preview of EPS files?

Framers,

PSAlter from Quite can also add preview to most documents with PostScript level 
1 and 2 content. I'm unaware whether or not you can define custom resolution of 
the generated preview, though.

Anyway, be aware about a possible limitation with importing PDF documents into 
Windows FrameMaker. SPOT colors may not be safeguarded downstream.

On 6. March 2008 I posted a comment on this issue to the Frameusers list 
(topic: PDF>FrameMaker>PDF Color Issue). I'll copy in a small part here:

~ Copy from topic: PDF>FrameMaker>PDF Color Issue ~

On Page 14 in "Adobe? FrameMaker? 7.2 User Guide Supplement for Windows? and 
UNIX?" it's stated:

Importing PDF and Illustrator files (UNIX)
--

You can import Adobe PDF files and Illustrator 9 and 10 files into a FrameMaker 
document in release 7.1 or later.

When you import a PDF or Illustrator file into FrameMaker, the file is treated 
as a graphic, and only one page can be imported at a time. You can import it 
either by copy or by reference.

*** Both process and spot colors can be displayed and printed ***.

This statement seem to be faulty. At least, on Windows spot colors contained in 
imported PDF documents appear NOT to be retained when output from FrameMaker on 
Windows, and will -- as far as I can see -- effectively output as defined in 
their alternate color space, usually CMYK.

Hence, importing spot colored PDF documents is to no avail with FrameMaker on 
Windows. I haven't tested on other platforms.

~ End copy 

For further details please refer to the "PDF>FrameMaker>PDF Color Issue" topic.

I'm unaware whether or not this inexpediency is still present with release 8 
versions, but I certainly suspect it is. I have neither seen any official 
statement from a Adobe representative that confirm the inappropriateness nor 
its fix.

Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
Jacob Sch?ffer  |  Chief Developer
Grafikhuset
Paradis All? 22, Raml?se
DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark
Phone: +45 4439 4400
Email: js at grafikhuset.dk
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> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] P? vegne af Yves Barbion
> Sendt: 29. maj 2008 09:25
> Til: Rick Quatro
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Emne: Re: Optimize preview of EPS files?
> 
> 
> Thanks Rick,
> 
> indeed, downloading Transverter Pro is still possible, but 
> activating the product does not seem to work any longer.
> 
> I'll follow Dov's and Fred's recommendation (as usual) and 
> import PDFs instead.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Yves
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Rick Quatro 
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Yves,
> >
> > Years ago I worked with a group migrating from Unix FrameMaker with 
> > Postscript display systems to Windows. As you can imagine, 
> they were 
> > horrified by low-res EPS previews. I used a program called 
> Transverter 
> > Pro to add high-res TIFF previews to their EPS files. 
> Transverter Pro 
> > can process batches of files with a single command.
> >
> > Their web site (http://www.techpool.com/tpro.html) says that the 
> > product is discontinued, but it looks like you still may be able to 
> > download it.
> >
> > Rick Quatro
> > Carmen Publishing
> > 585-659-8267
> > www.frameexpert.com
> >
> >
> > > Hi Framers,
> > >
> > > when you import an EPS file into Frame, you get to see a low-res 
> > > preview. Is there a way or a plug-in to "optimize" this 
> preview or 
> > > to get a high-res preview?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > --
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publishing problems for Kazakh

2008-05-29 Thread Anneke von den Hoff

Hello Framers,



I hope there is someone out there who can help me?

I am publishing a document in Kazakh language in Structured FrameMaker7.2 in 
combination with a CMS.

For Russian and sort-like languages I use Arial Cyr, with a unicode mapping 
table



Kazakh uses some extended cyrillic characters not supported by Arial CYR.

(??? ?  ?? ??? ? ?? ??  ?? )



I use PragmaticaI to publish Kazakh, and in FrameMaker it works fine (I must 
admit that mapping the small character (?) was not possible?.). 

But when I print this document to printer or to file (PDF) two charactes (? and 
?)  don?t publish, they leave a blanc.

Now I have no idea what causes this, and more important how to solve this.



Is there anyoune who has some experience with this?

Is my font not correct? Does anyone know about another font?



Thanks in advance!



Anneke Von den Hoff



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Optimize preview of EPS files?

Creating previews with Ghostscript (which internally seem to use the EPSWrite 
device) will -- if I'm not mistaken -- convert a lot of graphic elements and 
text to bitmaps, and all colors will turn into plain RGB. Hence, the resulting 
EPS document may not be device independent anymore.

I haven't tried this myself with the latest GS versions, but until a few years 
back I've only seen poor results.

An ideal tool for adding EPS previews is a tool that doesn't make any 
conversion of the content stream, but ONLY interpret that stream and add the 
result hereof as a preview header. I'm not sure that is possible with 
Ghostscript or GSView.

Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
Jacob Sch?ffer  |  Chief Developer
Grafikhuset
Paradis All? 22, Raml?se
DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark
Phone: +45 4439 4400
Email: js at grafikhuset.dk
Web: www.grafikhuset.net



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> Fra: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] P? vegne af 
> Reng, Dr. Winfried
> Sendt: 29. maj 2008 09:50
> Til: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Emne: RE: Optimize preview of EPS files?
> 
> 
> Hi Yves,
> 
> You could also add a preview via GhostScript (eventually
> also with Epstool).
> On this web-site various methods are described: 
> http://www.dfanning.com/tips/postscript_preview.html
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Winfried
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Yves Barbion
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:25 AM
> > To: Rick Quatro
> > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Re: Optimize preview of EPS files?
> > 
> > Thanks Rick,
> > 
> > indeed, downloading Transverter Pro is still possible, but
> > activating the
> > product does not seem to work any longer.
> > 
> > I'll follow Dov's and Fred's recommendation (as usual) and 
> import PDFs 
> > instead.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Yves
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Rick Quatro
> > 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Yves,
> > >
> > > Years ago I worked with a group migrating from Unix 
> FrameMaker with 
> > > Postscript display systems to Windows. As you can 
> imagine, they were 
> > > horrified by low-res EPS previews. I used a program called
> > Transverter Pro
> > > to add high-res TIFF previews to their EPS files.
> > Transverter Pro can
> > > process batches of files with a single command.
> > >
> > > Their web site (http://www.techpool.com/tpro.html) says
> > that the product
> > > is
> > > discontinued, but it looks like you still may be able to
> > download it.
> > >
> > > Rick Quatro
> > > Carmen Publishing
> > > 585-659-8267
> > > www.frameexpert.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Framers,
> > > >
> > > > when you import an EPS file into Frame, you get to see 
> a low-res 
> > > > preview. Is there a way or a plug-in to "optimize" this
> > preview or to
> > > > get a high-res preview?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Yves Barbion
> > > > www.scripto.nu
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IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

Hello Framers,
here I'm presenting an impossible task. :-).
I have a 300 pages document which consists of 9 sections. I need to generate an 
index for it. Page number format should look like this: X-PP, where X is a 
section number and PP - page number. Had I separate files, that would not be a 
problem - make a book and off you go. I have 1 and I don't want split it for 
certain reasons.
So, is there a way to accomplish this numbering in one file? I know in InDesign 
that is totally possible with Section'ing the document. What about Frame?

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IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

It's a clunky solution predicated by your keeping the book in one
file, but just set up different master pages. The only difference
between master pages or sets of master pages would be the differing Xs
hard-coded into the footers: one set for Section 1, one set for
Section 2, etc.

Apply those masters to the appropriate selections of pages and you're done.

Art

P.S. Why do you think it has to be in a single file?

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Michael Zaichenko
 wrote:
> Hello Framers,
> here I'm presenting an impossible task. :-).
> I have a 300 pages document which consists of 9 sections. I need to generate 
> an index for it. Page number format should look like this: X-PP, where X is a 
> section number and PP - page number. Had I separate files, that would not be 
> a problem - make a book and off you go. I have 1 and I don't want split it 
> for certain reasons.
> So, is there a way to accomplish this numbering in one file? I know in 
> InDesign that is totally possible with Section'ing the document. What about 
> Frame?
>
> Michael
> 

-- 
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 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

publishing problems for Kazakh

It could be a font file error, but it sounds to me as if Acrobat may
not have access to the same fonts that FM does.
In your Acrobat set up, there's a font location item. Make sure that
all font directories. Also, make sure that Acrobat is set as the
system's default printer, to eliminate the possiblity that
printer-specific fonts are being invoked.

Art

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Anneke von den Hoff
 wrote:
> Hello Framers,
>
>
>
> I hope there is someone out there who can help me?
>
> I am publishing a document in Kazakh language in Structured FrameMaker7.2 in 
> combination with a CMS.
>
> For Russian and sort-like languages I use Arial Cyr, with a unicode mapping 
> table
>
>
>
> Kazakh uses some extended cyrillic characters not supported by Arial CYR.
>
> (??? ?  ?? ??? ? ?? ??  
> ?? )
>
>
>
> I use PragmaticaI to publish Kazakh, and in FrameMaker it works fine (I must 
> admit that mapping the small character (?) was not possible?.).
>
> But when I print this document to printer or to file (PDF) two charactes (? 
> and ?)  don't publish, they leave a blanc.
>
> Now I have no idea what causes this, and more important how to solve this.
>
>
>
> Is there anyoune who has some experience with this?
>
> Is my font not correct? Does anyone know about another font?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
> Anneke Von den Hoff
>
>
>

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 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

Text-related search question

Eli,

You wrote:

>How do I search for paragraphs that do not end with a period?
>I've played around with wildcards in the Find/change box, with no success.

[^.]\p

(with Use Wildcards selected).


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FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
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IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

So Michael, what you're asking is if you can have one format of page
numbers on the pages and a second, different format in the Index?
Is that correct?

***
Just in passing, almost all actions that can be applied to a file can
also be applied to every file in a book -- that's the way most FM
users ensure consistency. The ability to enforce strict standards is
the reason it's a publishing industry standard applications.

Art


On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Michael Zaichenko
 wrote:
> Hello Art,
> Hmm, you lost me a bit. I'm not talking about having numbers in the
> Headers/Footers. I'm talking about generating Index with these X-PP in it.
> As to P.S. well, I have a very strict standard on typesetting and all
> elements MUST be very consistent (plus I do certain actions on the whole
> product and to do it per file would multiply the time that much), so, to
> keep it all within fast reach, I do it "one-file"-way. I can't afford
> updating my documents wholesale in other words.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
> 
>> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:37:06 -0400
>> From: art.campbell at gmail.com
>> To: biozaichenko at hotmail.com
>> Subject: Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL
>> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>
>> It's a clunky solution predicated by your keeping the book in one
>> file, but just set up different master pages. The only difference
>> between master pages or sets of master pages would be the differing Xs
>> hard-coded into the footers: one set for Section 1, one set for
>> Section 2, etc.
>>
>> Apply those masters to the appropriate selections of pages and you're
>> done.
>>
>> Art
>>
>> P.S. Why do you think it has to be in a single file?
>>
>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Michael Zaichenko
>>  wrote:
>> > Hello Framers,
>> > here I'm presenting an impossible task. :-).
>> > I have a 300 pages document which consists of 9 sections. I need to
>> > generate an index for it. Page number format should look like this: X-PP,
>> > where X is a section number and PP - page number. Had I separate files, 
>> > that
>> > would not be a problem - make a book and off you go. I have 1 and I don't
>> > want split it for certain reasons.
>> > So, is there a way to accomplish this numbering in one file? I know in
>> > InDesign that is totally possible with Section'ing the document. What about
>> > Frame?
>> >
>> > Michael
>> > 
>>
>>
>> --
>> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
>> "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
>> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>> No disclaimers apply.
>> DoD 358
>
>
> 
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anchored frame alignment with insertion point

2008-05-29 Thread Aravindhan T S

Hi All,

i'm trying to find out a method to have the anchored frame which is inserted
at insertion point to come aligned over the text.

please see the attached image.

As of now, i'm manually resizing the anchored frame to acheive this.

As the anchored frame uses the paragraph tag, which is being used, can we
set this so that it comes out properly at the first place?

Thanks,
Aravind

IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

Hi Michael,

It is possible - provided that your section numbers are generated using 
paragraph autonumbering. 

First, if you've not already generated an index for the doc, do so.

Then, in the generated index file, view the references pages. There should be a 
page called IX (with a flow called IX). This page controlls the sort order of 
the index, and other things like the appearance of index entries.

One of the paras on the page should be:

<$pagenum>

Change it to:

<$paranumonly[Section]>-<$pagenum>

Where "Section" should be changed to the paragraph tag you are using for your 
sections. It's a good idea to use a non-breaking hyphen (esc hyphen h) so that 
the section and page numbers don't get split in the index.

Regenerate the index and you should get the required X-PP format.

Rob

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael Zaichenko
Sent: 29 May 2008 12:19
To: FrameUsers Users
Subject: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

Hello Framers,
here I'm presenting an impossible task. :-).
I have a 300 pages document which consists of 9 sections. I need to generate an 
index for it. Page number format should look like this: X-PP, where X is a 
section number and PP - page number. Had I separate files, that would not be a 
problem - make a book and off you go. I have 1 and I don't want split it for 
certain reasons.
So, is there a way to accomplish this numbering in one file? I know in InDesign 
that is totally possible with Section'ing the document. What about Frame?

Michael
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IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

2008-05-29 Thread Rick Quatro

Hi Rob,

This type of building block:

<$paranumonly[Section]>

does not work in generated files. You will get the closest previous 
autonumber to the index marker instead of any that you specify in square 
brackets.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


Hi Michael,

It is possible - provided that your section numbers are generated using 
paragraph autonumbering.

First, if you've not already generated an index for the doc, do so.

Then, in the generated index file, view the references pages. There should 
be a page called IX (with a flow called IX). This page controlls the sort 
order of the index, and other things like the appearance of index entries.

One of the paras on the page should be:

<$pagenum>

Change it to:

<$paranumonly[Section]>-<$pagenum>

Where "Section" should be changed to the paragraph tag you are using for 
your sections. It's a good idea to use a non-breaking hyphen (esc hyphen h) 
so that the section and page numbers don't get split in the index.

Regenerate the index and you should get the required X-PP format.

Rob

IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

Well, what I figured and is working...

I added autonumbering to my Section paragraphs. Position of the numbers at the 
end of the paragraph so it doesn't throw the position off-center and tagged 
with a chartag that colors it white. <$paranumonly[Section]> does work fine in 
generated files providing you have this autonumbering on. Final product looks 
satisfactory and this method allows me to use more files to generate from - 
i.e. cross-indexing.

Any other thoughts?

Michael



> From: frameexpert at truevine.net> To: Robert.Evans at arc.com; framers at 
> lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL> Date: Thu, 29 May 
> 2008 08:48:34 -0400> > Hi Rob,> > This type of building block:> > 
> <$paranumonly[Section]>> > does not work in generated files. You will get the 
> closest previous > autonumber to the index marker instead of any that you 
> specify in square > brackets.> > Rick Quatro> Carmen Publishing> 
> 585-659-8267> www.frameexpert.com> > > Hi Michael,> > It is possible - 
> provided that your section numbers are generated using > paragraph 
> autonumbering.> > First, if you've not already generated an index for the 
> doc, do so.> > Then, in the generated index file, view the references pages. 
> There should > be a page called IX (with a flow called IX). This page 
> controlls the sort > order of the index, and other things like the appearance 
> of index entries.> > One of the paras on the page should be:> > <$pagenum>> > 
> Change it to:> > <$paranumonly[Section]>-<$pagenum>> > Where "Section" should 
> be changed to the paragraph tag you are using for > your sections. It's a 
> good idea to use a non-breaking hyphen (esc hyphen h) > so that the section 
> and page numbers don't get split in the index.> > Regenerate the index and 
> you should get the required X-PP format.> > Rob> > 
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Marketing a product: which language for the documentation

2008-05-29 Thread Kelly McDaniel

I used to do this kind of work and also hire it done in the specialty
food trade. I can tell you without hesitancy that you will save money in
the long run if you hire a consultant/broker engaged in this line of
work to advise you on or handle all of the requirements.

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> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Marketing a product: which language for the documentation
> 
> Assuming the GPS product will be marketed to general consumers, it
would have to
> be translated. And you're right to ask if the European Union has
regulations. I
> don't know if they do, but I wouldn't be surprised. I imagine there's
an EU web
> site with the answer.
> 
> = Mike Bradley
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anchored frame alignment with insertion point

Aravindhan T S wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> i'm trying to find out a method to have the anchored frame which is inserted
> at insertion point to come aligned over the text.
> 
> please see the attached image.
> 
> As of now, i'm manually resizing the anchored frame to acheive this.
> 
> As the anchored frame uses the paragraph tag, which is being used, can we
> set this so that it comes out properly at the first place?
> 
> Thanks,
> Aravind

Aravind,

The list server strips out attachments, and your description of the 
problem is unclear.

Please either re-post your message with a better description of what you 
are trying to do, or if you like, send me your image off-list and I will 
try to help.

best regards,

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anchored frame alignment with insertion point

Aravind,

No attachment came through, but I think I understand your goal: graphic 
alignment at the level of indentation of the surrounding text.

We achieve this by having the graphic inserted At Insertion Point in a special 
formatting paragraph we call Spacer. The Spacer format has tabs at each 
possible indentation level. So, after you insert the graphic, you just 
back-arrow to get left of the graphic, and tab over as many times as desired.

Hope that helps! If not, send me the attachment so I can more clearly grasp the 
issue.


Rene L. Stephenson



- Original Message 
From: Aravindhan T S 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:35:49 AM
Subject: anchored frame alignment with insertion point

Hi All,

i'm trying to find out a method to have the anchored frame which is inserted
at insertion point to come aligned over the text.

please see the attached image.

As of now, i'm manually resizing the anchored frame to acheive this.

As the anchored frame uses the paragraph tag, which is being used, can we
set this so that it comes out properly at the first place?

Thanks,
Aravind

Barcode font

2008-05-29 Thread Don Laux

Hi Will,

There are lots and lots of different barcode fonts out there. Each will
encode the barcode string (the information that the barcode represents)
differently.

So the barcode font you should use really depends on the scanner device that
will interpret the barcode. The best analogy off the top of my head is that
it's like a codec. The information must be encoded so the interpreter can
understand it. The barcode font you use determines the encoding.

You need to find out what flavor of barcode is expected by the interpreting
device. There may even be some precise positioning and orientation
requirements for the barcode if it will be mechanically scanned in an
automated fashion, such as with folding/inserting devices or mail sorters.

3of9 is very common, but there are many, many others.

Wikipedia has a decent overview of barcodes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcode

IDAutomation has a bunch of barcode fonts you can download:
http://www.idautomation.com/fonts/

But find out which one you need first...

HTH

-Don Laux
Solimar Systems, Inc.

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Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:13:11 -0700
From: "Diane Gaskill" 
Subject: RE: Barcode font
To: "Whites" , "White William"

Cc: Framers 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="US-ASCII"

Hi Will,

We use a barcode font called 3of9. Works very well.

Diane Gaskill


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Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 6:42 AM
To: White William
Cc: Framers
Subject: Barcode font


Hi Framers -
Anyone out in FrameLandia know of a barcode font? There doesn't
appear to be one in the usual Windoze offering (or I am not looking
in the right places).
Any advice appreciated.

Will White
ViaLogy LLC



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IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

Well spotted Rick,

Serves me right for trying it out on a simple file... I'd forgotten that
behaviour (or lack of it) in generated files.

I guess the other alternative is to not use any other autonumbering in
the rest of the document (just like using Word...)

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:frameexp...@truevine.net] 
Sent: 29 May 2008 13:49
To: Robert Evans; FrameUsers Users
Subject: Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL

Hi Rob,

This type of building block:

<$paranumonly[Section]>

does not work in generated files. You will get the closest previous 
autonumber to the index marker instead of any that you specify in square

brackets.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


Hi Michael,

It is possible - provided that your section numbers are generated using 
paragraph autonumbering.

First, if you've not already generated an index for the doc, do so.

Then, in the generated index file, view the references pages. There
should 
be a page called IX (with a flow called IX). This page controlls the
sort 
order of the index, and other things like the appearance of index
entries.

One of the paras on the page should be:

<$pagenum>

Change it to:

<$paranumonly[Section]>-<$pagenum>

Where "Section" should be changed to the paragraph tag you are using for

your sections. It's a good idea to use a non-breaking hyphen (esc hyphen
h) 
so that the section and page numbers don't get split in the index.

Regenerate the index and you should get the required X-PP format.

Rob

Separating Color and B pages for printing

2008-05-29 Thread Steve Nolte

Has anyone created a process in either standard or structured FM to
automatically separate the color pages from the B so they can be sent to
separate printers? Due to the high cost and slower printing speed of the
color printer, we need to separate these pages to minimize both the costs
and printing time.

At this time, we generate a PDF and manually create 2 separate PDF files to
send to the B and Color printers. I believe there is a better option and
am hoping someone has already done it and is willing to share their
solution. We're open to any suggestions.

Thanks.

-- 
Steve

Basic question- Visio to Frame

2008-05-29 Thread Krishna Mukherjee


Hi,

I have about 10 figures in Visio that need to go into my Frame document. Would 
a simple cut and paste work or is there a preferred method of working with 
Visio files if they are to be incorporated into the Frame Doc?

Windows XP/Frame 7.2 (unstructured)

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Help, cannot import objects from visio

2008-05-29 Thread Melissa Di Natale

Hi there,



I am currently using Visio 2007 and FrameMaker 7.1. I used to be able to import 
objects (File? import?object?Create from file) from visio (saved as drawings or 
vsd) into Frame. Recently, if I try to import an object it lets me, but when I 
save I get the following error message: "An internal error occurred while 
writing imported graphics in this document. The file has been saved, but has 
lost some image data." Although the file does not save.  I can't figure out why 
this is occurring. No updates have been made to visio or frame that I am aware 
of so I'm not sure why this process no longer works? Has anybody had this 
problem. And, if you import flowcharts etc from visio what is the process you 
use? 



Thank you!

Melissa

Basic question- Visio to Frame

The accepted way to do this was to import Visio files as OLE objects,
however OLE didn't always work reliably, especially if you were doing
several files. Just lately, after installing XP SP3, even that limited
method quit working for me and several others who have reported
problems.

If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file.

Art

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Krishna Mukherjee  
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have about 10 figures in Visio that need to go into my Frame document. 
> Would a simple cut and paste work or is there a preferred method of working 
> with Visio files if they are to be incorporated into the Frame Doc?
>
> Windows XP/Frame 7.2 (unstructured)
>
> Thanks,Krishna
>
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Help, cannot import objects from visio

This was reported a couple weeks ago on this and several other FM
sites, just after XP SP3 was released (it includes OLE "fixes)."

Uninstalling SP3 re-enables OLE linking and makes the error messages
go away; keeping it installed keeps it broken. I haven't heard of any
work arounds or that the Microsoft fix is actually broken.

If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file
rather than as an object.

Art
. 

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Melissa Di Natale  
wrote:
> Hi there,
>
>
>
> I am currently using Visio 2007 and FrameMaker 7.1. I used to be able to 
> import objects (File? import?object?Create from file) from visio (saved as 
> drawings or vsd) into Frame. Recently, if I try to import an object it lets 
> me, but when I save I get the following error message: "An internal error 
> occurred while writing imported graphics in this document. The file has been 
> saved, but has lost some image data." Although the file does not save.  I 
> can't figure out why this is occurring. No updates have been made to visio or 
> frame that I am aware of so I'm not sure why this process no longer works? 
> Has anybody had this problem. And, if you import flowcharts etc from visio 
> what is the process you use?
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
> Melissa
>
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>

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Basic question- Visio to Frame

2008-05-29 Thread Milan Davidovic

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Art Campbell  wrote:
> If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
> format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file.

When I had to do this (a couple of years ago), I was advised to save
the Visio diagram as a .wmf file, and then import that.

-- 
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Basic question- Visio to Frame

2008-05-29 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer

Milan, et al ...

 >>When I had to do this (a couple of years ago), I was advised to 
save the Visio diagram as a .wmf file, and then import that.<<

I've had all kinds of text/font related problems trying to use *.wmf 
files created by Visio in the past. Perhaps things have improved 
since, but I often found text from diagrams had shifted or was 
missing altogether. *.emf files were better but not better enough.

I use Illustrator instead.

Dennis Brunnenmeyer...
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At 11:50 AM 5/29/2008, Milan Davidovic wrote:
>On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Art Campbell  
>wrote:
> > If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
> > format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file.
>
>When I had to do this (a couple of years ago), I was advised to save
>the Visio diagram as a .wmf file, and then import that.
>
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Basic question- Visio to Frame

2008-05-29 Thread Fred Ridder

Commenting on how to import figures from Visio, Milan Davidovic wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Art Campbell  
> wrote:
> > If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
> > format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file.
> 
> When I had to do this (a couple of years ago), I was advised to save
> the Visio diagram as a .wmf file, and then import that.

The problem with WMF is that the format only embeds the *name* of the
font(s) used for any text objects in the figure and not the font itself. 
This is OK if you are the only one ever working on the files, but it has the
potential to be a real PITA if you use non-ubiquitous fonts and need to
hand the files off to someone else for any purpose.

Printing the Visio figure to PDF and inserting the PDF by reference is the 
method I've used with great success for several years. Originally I used 
that method because the EPS export filter in Visio was chronically broken 
(before Microsoft dropped it from the product altogether...), but I wound 
up adopting PDF as my metafile format of choice for all graphics since 
it has all the same benefits as EPS for printed (or PDF) output and also 
has superb appearance on-screen as opposed to the low-res raster 
preview image you get with EPS.

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Basic question- Visio to Frame

I've been successfully exporting TIF files from Visio and just importing that 
into FM by reference. The OLE stuff for Visio if FM does work, but it's really 
quirky/flaky with our files...although, that might be due to still using Visio 
2003!!

Rene L. Stephenson

- Original Message 
From: Dennis Brunnenmeyer 
To: Milan Davidovic ; Frame Users 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:58:46 PM
Subject: Re: Basic question- Visio to Frame

Milan, et al ...

>>When I had to do this (a couple of years ago), I was advised to 
save the Visio diagram as a .wmf file, and then import that.<<

I've had all kinds of text/font related problems trying to use *.wmf 
files created by Visio in the past. Perhaps things have improved 
since, but I often found text from diagrams had shifted or was 
missing altogether. *.emf files were better but not better enough.

I use Illustrator instead.

Dennis Brunnenmeyer...
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At 11:50 AM 5/29/2008, Milan Davidovic wrote:
>On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Art Campbell  
>wrote:
> > If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
> > format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file.
>
>When I had to do this (a couple of years ago), I was advised to save
>the Visio diagram as a .wmf file, and then import that.
>
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Basic question- Visio to Frame

Art Campbell wrote: 

> The accepted way to do this was to import Visio files as OLE objects,
> however OLE didn't always work reliably, especially if you were doing
> several files. Just lately, after installing XP SP3, even that limited
> method quit working for me and several others who have reported
> problems.
> 
> If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
> format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file.

I think if you check the archives, you'll find as much or more criticism
of using OLE as acceptance. 

As for saving Visio drawings in a graphic format, the problem in the
past has been that most of Visio's export filters (including WMF and
EPS) weren't very good (I don't know if that's changed in Visio 2007).
Also, many people unwisely save those nice scalable vector graphics in a
raster (bitmap) format like PNG.

I've been using a Visio > PDF > FM process for some time and strongly
recommend it. If you have a recent full version of Acrobat (6-8, I
believe) and it was installed after Visio (2000-2007, I believe), you'll
have PDFMaker available in Visio, just like in Word, and making PDFs is
a one-click procedure. Multi-page Visio files turn into multi-page PDFs.

In FM, import the PDF by reference (select the page you want, if
necessary). When you edit the Visio file, just click the PDF button, and
let the path/name default to the one you used the last time you did
this. The next time you open the FM doc, you'll see the new version. 

HTH!
Richard

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Basic question- Visio to Frame

Rene Stephenson wrote:

> I've been successfully exporting TIF files from Visio and just
importing
> that into FM by reference. 

I'm afraid that's one of the raster file formats I suggested is an
unwise choice for a vector drawing. 

If you're delivering only printed docs and use a sufficiently high
resolution for your TIFFs, it may work OK. But if you deliver PDFs, you
might want to check the diagrams in the PDFs at some
higher-magnification zoom settings. 

Richard

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OT: Attaching a graphic to a paragraph tag in Word (like we can do in FM) - is this possible?

For all of us Frame users out there who must suffer through Word every
now and then (and for all you Word gurus and guruesses, whom I admire
heavily for keeping your sanity) - in Framemaker, we can permanently
have a graphic placed on a page every time we use a particular paragraph
style. For example, every time I use the Heading1 style in my templates,
I have a graphic called Heading1Line that is always placed beneath the
text of the tag (through the Advanced Paragraph Properties/Reference
page function in FM.) Is there a way to do this in Word? 

I am heaving to set up a Word template for some of my professional
services folks that mimics our FM templates and I am stymied as how to
accomplish this in Word. 

TIA,

TVB

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Health Language, Inc.

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OT: Attaching a graphic to a format in Word - part II

 Further clarification:

I actually want to use the same Heading1Line graphic in my Word
document. Every time I enter a Heading1, I want the graphic to appear
like it does in FM. How do I do that? It can't be in my Header or Footer
as it needs to be in the body of the document, and I can't recreate the
line using the Borders and Shading Option.  

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said. . . This is causing me to heave! 

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[mailto:stclwrsig-l-bounces+tammy.vanboening=healthlanguage.com at mailman.
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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:22 PM
To: stclwrsig-l at mailman.stc.org
Subject: [stclwrsig-l] Attaching a graphic to a format in Word?

For all of us Frame users out there who must suffer through Word every
now and then (and for all you Word gurus and guruesses, whom I admire
heavily for keeping your sanity) - in Framemaker, we can permanently
have a graphic placed on a page every time we use a particular paragraph
style. For example, every time I use the Heading1 style in my templates,
I have a graphic called Heading1Line that is always placed beneath the
text of the tag (through the Advanced Paragraph Properties/Reference
page function in FM.) Is there a way to do this in Word? 

I am heaving to set up a Word template for some of my professional
services folks that mimics our FM templates and I am stymied as how to
accomplish this in Word. 

TIA,

TVB

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Health Language, Inc.

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Attaching a graphic to a paragraph tag in Word (like we can do inFM) - is this possible?

Tammy Van Boening wrote: 

> For all of us Frame users out there who must suffer through Word every
> now and then (and for all you Word gurus and guruesses, whom I admire
> heavily for keeping your sanity) - in Framemaker, we can permanently
> have a graphic placed on a page every time we use a particular
paragraph
> style. For example, every time I use the Heading1 style in my
templates,
> I have a graphic called Heading1Line that is always placed beneath the
> text of the tag (through the Advanced Paragraph Properties/Reference
> page function in FM.) Is there a way to do this in Word?

Actually, this is something that's much easier and more powerful in Word
because you can add lines, boxes, shading, etc., to the pgf style
definition. 

In the Modify Style dialog, click Format > Border (that's 2007; might be
a bit different navigation in other versions). 

HTH!
Richard 


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OT: Attaching a graphic to a format in Word - part II