Re: Playing audio CDs
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:39:17 -0600, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: One thing that I don't think I've read but personally encountered. When using cdcontrol, it seems to tell the cd-rom drive to play the disc so it's not really done in software. If the audio cable from the cd-rom drive is not connected to the motherboard you won't get sound. For the vast majority of users this is a non-issue, but it be confusing to figure out. Well, interesting you mentioned this. I have this audio cable installed and after cdcontrol told the drive to play the audio CD, it is on the CD audio channel of the sound card (and the mixer channel CD, of course). I'm not sure how this is handled via the ATA cable where the CD drive usually is connected, or the SATA calbe, if it's a newer drive. Or, to make it more complicated, when the drive is a SCSI cable; I don't think SCSI transmits audio data via the SCSI cable... At least the drive should show the typical playing activity which can be checked using a headphone on the drive's front connector (if it has one). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hald makes cdrom fail
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:43:22 +, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: On FBSD 7.1-stable i386 if I start hald from rc.conf with hald_enable=YES the cdrom fails with acd0: FAILURE - unknown CMD (0x03) ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00 sks=0x40 0x00 0x00 Maybe this is a stupid and non-backed up idea, but what about using the ATAPICAM facility (and /dev/cd instead of /dev/acd) for accessing the CD-ROM drive? -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Determining process preventing umount of busy partition
I'd like to ask how to determine which process (or program) keeps a partition in state busy so that umount will refuse to unmount this partition. I found this when going into SUM for checking and maintenance, so I think it would be good to check which program still accesses files on a specific partition allthough it should already be terminated due to the different stop mechanisms run for the services in /etc/rc.d and /usr/local/etc/rc.d respectively, which is performed by init, if I understood this correctly. Example: % shutdown now ... going SUM, starting sh ... # umount /home # umount /tmp # umount /var # umount /usr umount: unmount of /usr failed: Device busy # umount -f /usr # mount -o ro / # fsck ... blah blah ... It would be good to be able to check why the partition is in state busy and possible terminate / kill processes that cause this. Using the force (-f) seems to be unneccessarily unfriendly. =^_^= Thanks for suggestions! -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Determining process preventing umount of busy partition
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:44:19 -0500, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: Polytropon writes: I'd like to ask how to determine which process (or program) keeps a partition in state busy so that umount will refuse to unmount this partition. The traditional tool for doing this is sysutils/lsof. (Please let me know if it compiles.) Sadly not, but my Ports tree is not up to date, so I tried to compile it in PORTVERSION=4.82A, with this error: === Building for lsof-4.82A,3 (cd lib; make DEBUG=-O2 CFGF=-fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=pentium4 -march=pentium4 -DHASEFFNLINK=i_effnlink -DHASF_VNODE -DHASCPUMASK_T -DHASSBSTATE -DHAS_KVM_VNODE -DHAS_UFS1_2 -DHAS_NO_SI_UDEV -DHAS_SI_PRIV -DHAS_SYS_SX_H -DHAS_ZFS -DHAS_V_LOCKF -DHAS_LOCKF_ENTRY -DFREEBSDV=7000 -DHASFDESCFS=2 -DHASPSEUDOFS -DHASNULLFS -DHASIPv6 -DHAS_STRFTIME -DLSOF_VSTR=\7.0-STABLE\) cc -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=pentium4 -march=pentium4 -DHASEFFNLINK=i_effnlink -DHASF_VNODE -DHASCPUMASK_T -DHASSBSTATE -DHAS_KVM_VNODE -DHAS_UFS1_2 -DHAS_NO_SI_UDEV -DHAS_SI_PRIV -DHAS_SYS_SX_H -DHAS_ZFS -DHAS_V_LOCKF -DHAS_LOCKF_ENTRY -DFREEBSDV=7000 -DHASFDESCFS=2 -DHASPSEUDOFS -DHASNULLFS -DHASIPv6 -DHAS_STRFTIME -DLSOF_VSTR=7.0-STABLE -I/usr/src/sys -O2 -c ckkv.c In file included from ckkv.c:33: ../machine.h:62: error: redefinition of typedef 'cpumask_t' /usr/src/sys/sys/types.h:146: error: previous declaration of 'cpumask_t' was here *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof/work/lsof_4.82A.freebsd/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof/work/lsof_4.82A.freebsd. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof. After I updated my Ports (just right now) I saw that lsof didn't change, still same version number. Installation via pkg_add -r worked without problems. # pkg_add -r lsof Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Latest/lsof.tbz... Done. I've got lsof-4.82A,3 now. The manpage reveals that this seems to be exactly what I've been searching for, so lsof | grep usr should to the trick. Thanks! -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Determining process preventing umount of busy partition
Replying to my own message... I'm so stupid: How do I *use* lsof which is /usr/local/sbin/lsof when actually trying to umount /usr? Can I put a copy of it into, let's say, /root/bin? I've checked library dependencies: # which lsof | xargs ldd /usr/local/sbin/lsof: libkvm.so.4 = /lib/libkvm.so.4 (0x280a2000) libc.so.7 = /lib/libc.so.7 (0x280aa000) So this is on the / partition. This should work, am I right? -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Determining process preventing umount of busy partition
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:26:53 +, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: Don't use lsof for that then. Use fstat(1) which is part of the base system: # fstat -f /usr Cool! I didn't know about how to use fstat for *this* purpose. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Determining process preventing umount of busy partition
First of all, I checked both lsof's and fstat's output: NOTHING seems to have a file open in the /usr partition. Very strange. Of course, I've tried the copies of both tools in /root/bin so they don't cause any access on /usr theirselves. On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:08:58 -0700, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote: Most commonly for me is because my $PWD (or CWD) is in the filesystem i intend to umount I've checked this: In SUM, $CWD was /, and root's $HOME is /root on the / partition. Users' home directories are on /home which is separated from /usr (and can be unmounted without problems). At no time, a $CWD was on /usr partition. so as a habit now, i move myself to the root partition (when logged in as root) via the following, and assuming I want to umount /usr # umount /usr umount: unmount of /usr failed: Device busy # cd # umount /usr cd, with no arguments, move you to ~ (aka $HOME) Which would be /root in case of SUM. As I said, very strange... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How-to erase a DVD-RW
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:16:26 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: recording 0 bytes DVD will do the trick, i don't see explicit cleaning option in growisofs now. The manpage of growisofs suggests this: Note that DVD+RW re-formatting procedure does not substitute for blank- ing. If you want to nullify the media, e.g. for privacy reasons, do it explicitly with 'growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/dev/zero'. dvd+rw-format will clear DVD+RW disk. Definitely much easier. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: recovering from a power outage
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:00:16 -0500, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: 1) It was my understanding one has to force-mount a dirty filesuystem. IF this sounds like a practice best left to senior Jedi Masters ... it porbably is. Mounting possibly defective file systems is not a good idea. If it's possible, boot into SUM via boot -s first, check partitions (unmounted!) and then mount -a. Use exit to bring up MUM afterwards. Setting background_fsck=NO in /etc/rc.conf may increase boot time if problems occur, but can be useful to first check for errors, and then bring up the system, instead of bringing up the system with maybe problems on the partitions. I think this delay is something you can affort. It's not good to fsck a mounted partition anyway, because fsck can repair minor defects on its own. 2) I would _never_ let background fsck take care of things after a crash, While hovering over the keyboard is a pain, I will find out how badly things are damaged, rather than have boatloads of files mysteriously vanish. That's a good concept which I do follow myself, too. I spend some minutes seeing fsck checking partitions after unclean shutdown, but when everything's okay, there's no problem running into MUM *afterwards*. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: recovering from a power outage
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:11:56 -0500, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: One of my machines has a pair of 50gb SCSI disks; running two full passes takes about 7 minutes. I have no idea how long it might take to check a multi-terabyte RAID-mumble set-up. It's not *that* hard to wait for an fsck. I have 2 x 500 GB here at home, you're right, it takes several minutes for fsck to check both disks, but in the end, you're happy that either everything turns out to be okay or, if problems occured, you see these problems and can decide how to handle them. Still worth waiting ... in my opinion. I'd rather wait than lose data. But as you said, it's very individual how you think about this. If backups are done properly, sometimes it might even be easier *not* to repair data, but to put back the backups on the newly initialized disks... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: recovering from a power outage
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:22:55 -0500, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: Power outages are not the only thing which can cause (directly or indirectly) file system corruption. Oh yes, that's so true - I experienced it in July 2008, and I still think it was a software problem... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg - Resolution issues
Maybe you can try Option PreferredMode 1366x768 in section Monitor? If it doesn't work, there's always an option to use xrandr via ~/.xinitrc: xrandr --size 1366x768 xrandr --fb 1366x768 I have a similar issue with the ati driver, using an ATI Radeon 9200 (RV250) which I need to force to 1400x1050 (worked with old XFree86 and the setting in the config file, as you mentioned it). The autodetection of the screen (21 CRT) leads to stupid values that are completely unusable. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: confontation
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:07:00 -0800, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote: i need greek letters for math work. [...] any suggestions? I'm not sure if this helps you, but I've seen a font on an ancient Windows 3.11 installation that included all greek letters (uppercase and lowercase), but without special punctuation (which is not needed for math purposes, I think). Was the font named Symbol? I can't remember, it's long time ago. But maybe you can check and find a TTF file that can be imported to X and / or the application you use? I think using sprites of the letters instead of a font is not a good idea... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT console based editor that can do php syntax highlighting
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:27:02 -, Simon Griffiths simon.griffi...@tenenbaum.co.uk wrote: So can anyone recommend an editor that can do this ? I did try vim some time ago but being a novice in these areas I couldn't get the syntax file to load and help on the web confusing or indecipherable. Joe's own editor (joe) now supports syntax highlightin, as well as VI improved (vim). The editor of the Midnight Commander (mcedit) is my individual program of choice, allthough I needed to modify the syntax files to fit my imaginations, just as I created new ones. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: getty on /dev/ttypN
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:33:20 -0500, Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote: I think I ran mergemaster correctly on the upgrade. I'm not sure why init is trying to talk to these ports, which are obviously pseudo terminals... Do you have X running? Usually, the ttypN pseudo terminals are employed by xterms (or other terminal emulators on X). Maybe this is a result of a non-starting X? Do you have automated screen sessions running? Does the command w show something strange? The configuration files you showed seem to look completely normal. I don't see why init tries to getty for the ttypN... init: can't exec getty 'none' for port /dev/ttyp[01]: No such file or directory The ttypN files in /dev are, if I see this correctly, only generated when needed. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mixer resets
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:41:46 -0800, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote: line via mixer. After a while I installed gmixer because having a graphical interface made things go a lot quicker. But I discovered that every time I invoked gmixer it reset the vol to 0:0. It continues to do that, and I'm wondering if anyone else has that experience with gmixer. Could that be a bug? Are there other graphical mixer alternatives? You could install the gkrellm and gkrellmvolume2 ports; then you'll always have a slider for each mixer channel available. I may give that a try. It does help, in this case, to have a graphical interface. It's pretty difficult to get things adjusted properly while switching back and forth between fldigi and the command line. An old fashioned alternative is xmixer (or xmix?) which may have less dependencies than other programs. An idea for gmixer: Eventually there's an option for preset values, or a kind of configuration file which is read right after program startup, and if such a file doesn't exists, zero values are assumed. Another mixer GUI worth mentioning is aumix / xaumix (Gtk) which features both a graphical and a text mode GUI for adjusting levels. Because I've used this program in the past, I can tell you that it's not resetting all the values. Good luck es vy 73 de D. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd 7.1 clean install with mouse completely hang
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:16:48 +0700, Vu The Cuong vuthecu...@luvina.net wrote: Hi all Yeassterday I performed clean installation of freebsd 7.1, gnome showed up fined, but mouse and keyboard completely not functioned, hang all the time, the only way to restart is press the button reset of PC. How can I solved that? Did you install X and Gnome from the installation CD or from (updated) ports? Maybe it's one of the improvements after major changes in X that require certain modifications (xorg.conf, HAL, DBUS). Check out ports/UPDATING, if this is the issue. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: tab-delimited to csv
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:55:50 -0500, John Almberg jalmb...@identry.com wrote:
Can anyone suggest a way to convert a tab-delimited file to csv using
standard unix utilities? I could whip up a Ruby script to do it, but
I hate to reinvent the wheel.
I think it's more simple with sed. Use the global substitution
function, such as
% sed s/\t/:/g
See that \t or maybe [ \t]* may be the appropriate field delimiter.
Instead of :, take , or . as separator, just as you need.
Another solution could be awk.
% awk '{ gsub([\t]*, :, $0); print $0; }'
If you need additional re-ordering, use -F or FS to specify
the field separator, and then printf %s:%s:%s\n, $2, $1, $3;.
These would be the easiest (I think) substitution approaches.
--
Polytropon
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Re: Determining process preventing umount of busy partition
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:44:02 -0900, Mel fbsd.questi...@rachie.is-a-geek.net wrote: Is this a one-time event or 100% reproducable? I've tried it several times, it can always be reproduced. A likely scenario is: - You have squid running - You have rc_shutdowntimeout at default (30 seconds) I'm not sure if this setting (?) will have an effect after trying the umount operation in SUM. Even if umount is retried after a several time, /usr is still busy. - rc hits the watchdog while squid is being shutdown No, nothing running. All applications have terminated. - you unmount - get busy - call fstat at which point squid has been shutdown. I've used fstat and lsof to check for open files on /usr, nix, nada, nitshewo. Replace squid with anything that takes 30+ seconds to shutdown. Allthough, they would probably already fail at umount /var. Squid with defaults is fully contained in /usr/local. I can't imagine which application should still be running when nothing on /usr is accessed (lsof, fstat); I'll check on running applications using ps. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: World doesn't build correctly
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:14:58 +0100, Frank Wißmann frank.wissman...@web.de wrote: What is going wrong here? Why isn't ther build a 7_STABLE as I desire? What do I need to change to get my wanted results? Are you sure you have the correct sources? How did you update them? I'm using the following settings (as an example): In /etc/make.conf: SUP_UPDATE= yes SUP=/usr/bin/csup SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 SUPHOST=cvsup.freebsd.org SUPFILE=/etc/sup/stable.sup And in /etc/sup/stable.sup: *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all For csup, the tag is RELENG_7. You used 7_STABLE, maybe this is the reason why you checked out the sources of 7.0-RELEASE? -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Determining process preventing umount of busy partition
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:30:55 -0900, Mel fbsd.questi...@rachie.is-a-geek.net wrote: This is weird, though. New theories (where are Chase, Cameron and Foreman when you need them!): Spying around in someone else's house. :-) fstat is lying, instead use: fstat -f /usr -m -v Well, I've taken that pill. This is the result: # /root/bin/fstat -m -v -f /usr USER CMD PID FD MOUNT INUM MODE SZ|DV R/W # _ It shows NOTHING. I have made a copy of fstat binary in /root/bin, which is possible because all needed libs are in /. Furthermore, I've carefully studied the output of ps ax and even of top -t, but as well, nothing that indicates some activity on /usr... You have a mount on top of /usr, ie.: /usr/local or /usr/ports. No. From /etc/fstab: # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# # --- - -- - - - /dev/ad0s1b noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad0s1d /tmpufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1e /varufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1f /usrufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1g /export/homeufs rw 2 2 These are the only partitions on ad0. /usr has its own partition, nothing mounted on top of it. (You mentioned a valid point: I sometimes have another disk mounted inside /export/home, and I cannot umount /export/home while this partition is mounted. But that's not the case here.) This is REALLY strange, I should get a whiteboard, some pens and start making a drawing of the symptoms, until Dr. Cuddy tells me not to do so. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: World doesn't build correctly
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:50:25 +0100, Frank Wißmann frank.wissman...@web.de wrote: Well, I used your settings of default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7, but the answer is still this: FreeBSD grissom.einundvierzig.org 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Feb 18 21:36:57 CET 2009 r...@grissom.einundvierzig.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GRISSOM amd64 Any ideas, folks? Or should I post something more? may I ask how exactly you did the update? As it has mentioned before, the handbook (even the german version) gives a good routeplan for this. In general: # cd /usr/src # make update # make buildworld buildkernel KERNCONF=GRISSOM # make installkernel KERNCONF=GRISSOM # reboot boot -s fsck and mount -a # cd /usr/src # mergemaster -p # make installworld # mergemaster # reboot (Hope that's correct from my mind, check handbook anyway.) Note that the configuration files mentioned above usually employ the make update command from within /usr/src. Kernel and world have to be the same version. Oh yes, and check your /boot/loader.conf if eventually a previous kernel is loaded, maybe you stored a spare kernel in /boot and the loader loads this, instead of /boot/kernel/kernel? Just to be sure... I mention this because I had a spare 6.0-GENERIC kernel saved in /boot, a setting in /boot/loader.conf for some testing, then updated the system (which affected /boot/kernel/kernel, but not /boot/kernel/kernel.GENERIC which was instead loaded). :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
SOLVED: Re: Determining process preventing umount of busy partition
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:44:31 -0900, Mel fbsd.questi...@rachie.is-a-geek.net wrote: Can you show mount -p before trying to unmount /usr? On the off-chance /export or /export/home is really a symlink to /usr/home (mount -p shows realpath(3) for mounts). Hm, I keep /home out of /usr, so there's only a symlink (for the obvious compatibility reasons) /home@ - export/home. BUT, and now the big surprise, maybe a possibility: % mount -p /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 devfs /devdevfs rw 0 0 /dev/ad0s1d /tmpufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1e /varufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1f /usrufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1g /export/homeufs rw 2 2 devfs /var/named/dev devfs rw 0 0 linprocfs /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 Haha!!! It seems that the linprocfs prevents umounting of /usr because its mountpoint /usr/compat/linux/proc is de facto INSIDE /usr. I've checked this while in SUM: When umounting linprocfs prior to /usr, no problems occur. I'll speak to Mr. Tritter so he can stop his investigations. Seems that we found the reason. Thanks for your help. Seems that I'm too stupid to own a computer. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: World doesn't build correctly
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:14:01 +0100, Frank Wißmann frank.wissman...@web.de wrote: I did it now the way you told me but it still shows 7.0-Release at uname -a. I attach my make.conf and cvs-supfile' maybe there is something wrong? I've found something strange in the CVSup files: Your file My file - *default base=/usr/src *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr/src*default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7 You see these differences: base and prefix are set incorrectly and release / tag is incomplete. You should follow Mel's advice and take the file /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile as a starting point. Of course, you can cut the many comments, but be sure that the settings are valid (as shown above). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: video editor
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:32:43 -0800, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote: any recommendations for software that can join or split wmv, mpg, avi etc etc? I think it can be done with mplayer / (g)mencoder and avidemux2. The advantage of them is having a GUI (if this is an advantage to you). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Where is my STRFILE?
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:03:24 +0100, herbert langhans herbert.raim...@gmx.net wrote: Even tried that. In /usr/ports/games/freebsd-games are the classical games, but not the fortunes and the strfile. Have it installed now, still no strfile. The strfile binary should be built by the system's build command (make buildworld from /usr/src). Check if a setting in /etc/make.conf disables the build of the games stuff. Do you daemons have the binary 'strfile' on your system? Could you please check and tell me! Maybe somebody can send me this single binary file offlist by email? % which strfile /usr/games/strfile This is from a 7-STABLE system from Aug 2008. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... strfile Description: Binary data ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Rsync | Push script
Just a small note which has nothing to do with the actual rsync problem: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:40:21 +0100, Jos Chrispijn j...@webrz.net wrote: DATE=`date +%d%m%y` In order to be able to sourt your backups by date, you could use the form DATE=`date +%y%m%d` or DATE=`date +%Y%m%d` to get a date signature that can be sorted. Just a suggestion - I've had the best experiences with the form DATE=`date +%Y-%m-%d` attached to the backup's subject. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Alternative to sysinstall?
A possibility would be to develop the different target systems first on a builder system, maybe using jails. This system is completely installed as it is intended to be on the target system later on. Then the partitions are dumped (using dump, of course) as data files onto the USB thumb. Furthermore, the thumb holds a bootable system with a hand-craftet installer that first slices, partitions and formats the hard drive and then just resores (using restore) the content from the dump files onto the (empty) hard disk. After another reboot the system should boot up fine as it has been preconfigured on the builder machine. Other members of this mailing list will soon tell you some much better ways to achieve your goal. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: understanding freebsd development logic
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:25:59 -0800, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote: is the idea to make each version 'as good as possible' because it would still be useful for older machines? or is it that later versions can utilize code from the earlier versions? or is it something else? I hope it doesn't sound impolite, but FreeBSD's development process isn't tied to hardware evolution (such as it is with nearly any Linux and of course with Windows). You can use 7.1 on the same hardware that ran 4.6 before, and you get a gain of speed! When development in 8-CURRENT is considered to be important to the 7.x-branch, it will surely be backportet. Another reason is that there are FreeBSD installations where the maintainer isn't interested in updating to the bleeding edge point of development, or simply can't afford this because of security considerations. So it's important to clean bugs from systems that are still in use, these are 6.x and 7.x at the moment, while releases prior to these numbers have already been EOLed, as far as I know. Of course, nothing stops you from *not* updating an existing 5.x installation, especially when it runs sufficiently to your needs. With the ++ of the major release number, often new concepts are introduced which are held back during the ++ of the minor version number of the respective predecessor release, such as, for example, the use of devfs for /dev, or the inclusion of ZFS in the base system. I'm not a developer so I'm not competent enough to go into detail regarding your question. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD multiboot question.
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:35:00 -0800, Overdorf, Sam sam.overd...@intel.com wrote: Is there a way that I can change the description from FreeBSD to something like: F1 FreeBSD 7.1 F2 FreeBSD 7.0 F3 FreeBSD 6.4 As far as I understood, the names displayed are generic ones. In order to change them or even made to fit them to a particular OS version on a different slice / disk, modifying the bootloader's source is neccessary (followed by recompilation and reinstall). Other bootloaders may have an easier option to change the displayed names. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Determining scancodes for obscure keyboard to modify keymap
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:28:54 -0700, carnage carnagewash...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking to remap an apple usb keyboard (a1048). It has F13-16, 3 volume control keys and an eject key but no scroll lock, num lock, pause/break, etc. I'm wondering how I would go about changing some of these not so useful keys into useful keys. I have the same keyboard on a secondary system and would know the answert to your question, too. :-) As I knew from configuring my Sun USB Type 6 keyboard, xev is a good tool to check the keyboard output. It works for the Apple keys next to the space bar, but not for PF13 -- PR16, the volume keys and the eject key - xev doesn't show anything when they're pressed. Maybe you can use my ~/.xmodmaprc for the Sun keyboard, at least for educational purposes. :-) (I'll add the english key names; because I have the german version, I've initially named *them* within the comments.) ! ! $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/xmodmap.std,v 3.5 1996/12/23 06:47:28 dawes Exp $ ! $XConsortium: xmodmap.std /main/7 1996/02/21 17:48:55 kaleb $ !clear mod3 !clear mod4 add mod4 = Multi_key ! Hilfe / Help keycode 144 = F13 ! Stop / Stop keycode 145 = F14 ! Wiederholen / Again keycode 146 = F15 ! Eigenschaften / Props keycode 147 = F16 ! Zurücknehmen / Undo keycode 148 = F17 ! Vordergrund / Front keycode 149 = F18 ! Kopieren / Copy keycode 150 = F19 ! Öffnen / Open keycode 151 = F20 ! Einsetzen / Insert keycode 152 = F21 ! Suchen / Find keycode 153 = F22 ! Ausschneiden / Cut keycode 154 = F23 ! Ton aus / Entmagnetisieren / Mute / Degauss keycode 141 = F24 ! Leiser / Mehr Kontrast / Lower volume / contrast keycode 142 = F25 ! Lauter / Weniger Kontrast / Raise volume / contrast keycode 143 = F26 ! Ausschalten (Mond) / Switch off (Moon) keycode 140 = F27 ! Meta links / Meta left keycode 115 = Meta_L ! Meta rechts / Meta right keycode 116 = Meta_R ! Compose keycode 117 = Multi_key ! It's easy to find out what the keys send using xev. Then, you can easily assign any key name to them that is present in the symbol file for xkb stuff. Note that this worked with XFree86 and X.org so far, but due to the newest improvements, it may be possible that settings have to be done very differently now... (I've not taken the update yet.) If you got the keys working, please report back to the list. I'd be very interested in using them. They work fine when the keyboard is attached to an iBook. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: X to not blank screen or switch off monitor
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:48:23 +0200, Brent Clark brentgclarkl...@gmail.com wrote: The problem I seem to face is that I cant get X and / or freebsd to not blank the screen and / or switch off the monitor. Sounds like you need to add Section Monitor Option DPMS false EndSection respectively. Ive run xset s noblank vbetool dpms on In my ~/.xinitrc, I have these xset s off xset -dpms to prevent blank / monitor off (suspend DPMS). I even set blanktime=NO in /etc/rc.conf. This is for the text mode consoles only. You can add saver=NO do your /etc/rc.conf, but I think it's already a default value (check /etc/defaults/rc.conf). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ALT key kills window/application
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:01:54 -0800 (PST), devindg dgarcia.t...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if this is a WM issue or an X issue, but whatever it is, it's hard to diagnose. This nuisance started to occur after an upgrade of all my ports. I ran Xev and pressed ALT to see what it would return. Here it is: ClientMessage event, serial 33, synthetic YES, window 0x181, message_type 0xdd (WM_PROTOCOLS), format 32, message 0xdb (WM_DELETE_WINDOW) This looks strange. Pressing the (left) Alt key sould give something like this: KeyPress event, serial 24, synthetic NO, window 0x121, root 0x73, subw 0x0, time 3045197954, (505,110), root:(1018,180), state 0x10, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x121, root 0x73, subw 0x0, time 3045198051, (505,110), root:(1018,180), state 0x18, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False The xev output you presented doesn't indicate that an Alt key has been pressed. It indicates that when pressing the Alt key issues a command to the window manager (or from it?) - WM_PROTOCOLS - to close the window focussed at the moment - WM_DELETE_WINDOW. This isn't an action the Alt key should be mapped to. (4) http://www.nabble.com/file/p22238102/xorg.conf xorg.conf Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Didn't you define a keyboard layout in xorg.conf? I'm not sure about how this is to be done after the massive X update (I read somethink like DBUS is needed now to select keyboard layout). Maybe you can try something like this: Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout de Option AutoRepeat250 30 EndSection Insert the layout you need (e. g. US). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ALT key kills window/application
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:53:01 -0800 (PST), devindg dgarcia.t...@gmail.com wrote: I went ahead and tried your suggestion, but the problem persists. However -- and I should have given this more thought earlier -- I looked at the Xorg log, and it may provide more useful information. This is obvious: (II) config/hal: Adding input device Logitech USB Keyboard (II) LoadModule: kbd (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so (II) Module kbd: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.3.2 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.1 (**) Logitech USB Keyboard: always reports core events (**) Option Protocol standard (**) Logitech USB Keyboard: Protocol: standard (**) Option Device /dev/ukbd0 (EE) Logitech USB Keyboard: cannot open /dev/ukbd0 (EE) PreInit failed for input device Logitech USB Keyboard (II) UnloadModule: kbd (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed It seems to indicate a major problem with the keyboard, which is an USB Logitech one. Do you have the (testing) option to attach a standard keyboard, a PS/2 102 key keyboard or at least a normal USB keyboard (Sun, Apple)? Because of the message (EE) Logitech USB Keyboard: cannot open /dev/ukbd0 it seems that X (or at least HAL) cannot open the keyboard's device file /dev/ukbd0. Can you ll this file to check the existance and correct permission? % ll /dev/ukbd0 crw--- 1 root wheel0, 121 Feb 28 02:34 /dev/ukbd Is the USB keyboard detected correctly by the system for outside X operations? % dmesg | grep ^ukbd ukbd0: vendor 0x0430 product 0x0005, class 0/0, rev 1.00/1.02, addr 3 on uhub1 For my keyboard ONLY: Reporting defective since FreeBSD 7; should be: % dmesg | grep ^ukbd ukbd0: Sun Microsystems Type 6 USB keyboard, rev 1.00/1.02, addr 3, iclass 3/1 Check usbdevs -v as well. My idea would be now that X (or HAL) misdetects your keyboard and starts to do strange stuff when the Alt key is pressed because it thinks that it isn't the Alt key, but something else. Again, try to check with a standard keyboard, just to be sure. Final idea: Maybe the keyboard is so non-standard that it is to be considered crap (as it is for most modern stuff, especially from today's Logitech) and should be exchanged in favour of a regular and standard-compliant keyboard. Since the happy X upgrades, consider the HAL and DBUS stuff to be crap, too, especially when the keyboard worked as intended before the upgrade. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kernel #4
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:47:27 -0500, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: Tim Judd wrote: Actually this is the 5th time --- computers start counting at zero. Wow, what a nice technicality you have found! If computers start counting at zero, and if the system-installed kernel starts at zero, how many times has the user taken the bus? And how does the computer count more than 1 (which is 2) when he does only understand 0 and 1? :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: where is gtk+-2?
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:10:01 -0800 (PST), gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all: Which is the package gtk+-2 located under /usr/ports? Are you searching for /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20? From the pkg-descr file: GTK+ essentially provides the building blocks from which GUIs can be built. [...] GTK+-2 is a very stable release, similar only in design to GTK+-1. GTK+-2 can coexist happily alongside GTK+-1, but applications are written for one version or the other. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
I don#t want to interrupt. I just like to say that this kind of discussion already took place. On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:45:45 -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Does someone who simply clicks yes, without actually reading the license first, have knowledge of the relationship? Can Your Cat Agree to an EULA? http://www.osnews.com/comments/21010 -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Root shell
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:43:55 +0100, Daniel Lannstrom o...@trekdanne.se wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 11:11:56AM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: This explains one of the reasons not to change root's shell: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/security.html#TOOR-ACCOUNT Yes that's exactly what I meant. Is there any other reason except for that? As I see it that problem can easily be solved by copying bash to the root file system. Also many systems today have the root and /usr on the same file system. I wouldn't rely on the many systems today assumption. As an addition, I'd like to mention that there are two root shells: First is the system's standard scripting shell /bin/sh which is usually invoked first when entering maintenance mode (single user mode). As well as FreeBSD's standard dialog shell /bin/csh it resides on the / partition. Maybe it can be seen as an unwritten law, or at least as a kind of well intended suggestion to use /bin/csh for root's dialog shell as well as /bin/sh for scripting. It may be considered old fashion, but it has served well to follow this suggestion over the years. Just as a very individual example, I haven't found any need to install BASH on any system I've done so far. But it's completely okay to have BASH as a user's dialog shell when the system is up and running well. Furthermore, I don't think copying the bash* binary is sufficient to have BASH in SUM in a problem situation (which is: / is mounted ro, nothing else mounted). Reason: % which bash | xargs ldd /usr/local/bin/bash: libncurses.so.7 = /lib/libncurses.so.7 (0x280ff000) libintl.so.8 = /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 (0x2813d000) libiconv.so.3 = /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x28146000) libc.so.7 = /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2823b000) There are library dependencies on /usr partition. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Root shell
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:21:54 -0800, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote: besides, you don't really need to, do you? i just log in with su -m and get to use my own account's aliases etc, but as root. Furthermore, since the introduction of the sudo command (which is installabe by ports / package) prefixing commands with sudo seems to be okay for most tasks. And as you said, Prad, using FreeBSD's su command (su -m) will usually do just fine. Another wisdom about this topic: If you see that you're spending so much time as 'root' that you feel you need to change the root shell to BASH, you're obviously doing something wrong. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rc.conf and starting scripts
Allow me an addition:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:53:24 +, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:
/usr/local/etc/rc.d is the default for local scripts, that's where
package put their scripts, but there are some rules.
- they should either be proper RCNG scripts or they should end in a .sh
extension
I'm not sure if this is valid anymore, but I think it's also
neccessary that a *.sh script is chmod +x, or it won't be
executed at startup. These scripts are located in /usr/local/etc.
The rc-style scripts (foo { start | stop | restart | status })
are located in the rc.d/ subdirectory, just like in /etc. They
usually have a corresponging enable setting (foo_enable) in
/etc/rc.conf or /etc/rc.conf.local (see man rc.conf), as well
as means to set parameters (foo_flags or something specific).
--
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Re: Kernel Compile issue
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:28:59 -0800, Paige Thompson erra...@devel.ws wrote: Mike, I think you misread what I sent, however I noticed that you used 'KERNELCONF' instead of 'config' (as I noted) but I still get the same error. Correct is KERNCONF=name of config file as parameter for buildkernel and installkernel targets. Allthough the old way using config kernel make depend make is still supported. Don't miss the make depend. I want to say the issue must have something to do with the fact that there's no environment variables that specify the include directories. As far as I know, there are system defaults that apply. When building from updated sources, the files within the source tree are used (in /usr/src). There's nothing that should be in the env output. I'd suggest to follow the already given advice to work exactly by manual, at least for the first time. Have a look at the comments /usr/src/Makefile, they're explaining the most obvious mistakes one could make. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Kernel Compile issue
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:43:01 -0800, Paige Thompson erra...@devel.ws wrote: You're right, my source tree is incomplete: # pwd /usr/src/sys # cd sys sys: No such file or directory. # I had a similar problem some years ago and couldn't find out what the reason was - the magic of this mailing list didn't open up to me that time yet. :-) Thank you that helps a lot actually, it probably has something to do with the source archives that I downloaded not being extracted properly. This should be followed by an error message, either by ftp for an incomplete archive or by tar for a defective (and also incomplete) one. I'm not a big fan of sysinstall, I prefer to work without it. From my experience, it's quite handy at install time. This usually is the time when I get the sources from the CD. After that, I don't use sysinstall anymore. FreeBSD brings excellent tools for the system administration as well as for installing software. When sources and ports tree are in place, I usually update them using cvsup (old fashioned, I know). Then everything should be up to date, ready for a make run in /usr/src. You know the whole thing seems like its setup to try and force me to use sysinstall. In any case, you should get proper results without using sysinstall. All the tools are there. Even the ftp client gives me a lot of flack about how I use mget (IE: mget ssys.* not being a valid way to just fetch all of the files) so of course i'm left to go through and fetch each of them individually :(( + On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:44:27 -0800, Paige Thompson erra...@devel.ws wrote: PS: it seems just straight up mget * works x.x k! satisfactory enough... Don't forget to unset prompt. :-) But as I said, I prefer getting the sources from the CD (is much faster). and for whatever reason, Im not having any luck with ncftp which I'm sure I could figure it out but I really don't think that I should have to install an additional FTP client just so I can fetch the kernel source ._. It's FreeBSD, you don't have to do such stupid things. :-) You even don't need to install cvsup in order to update the sources, FreeBSD brings its own csup today. it kind of negates the whole minimalist aspect of having multiple archive files in the first place. Am I right? I'm not sure why the archive is split into multiple volumes... maybe historical reasons? -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: read BSD format disk from Mac OSX
I don't want to be impolite, but your solution suggestion is unneccessarily complicated, involving something that isn't needed at all. Let me explain: On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:41:10 -0600, David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net wrote: On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 09:16:02AM -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Hi all, I format a ext disk (UFS) and transfer some files into it, hand it over to my friend who has a macbook. He complained the macbook can't read it. I don't have a mac on hand, I wonder if there is any utility that will help a mac to read a BSD, thanks!! The easiest way to do what you are attempting is to format the disk FAT. Then to preserve file attributes write your files in a tar archive. Hey hey, not so complicated. :-) The easiest way is to follow this advice WITHOUT the FAT part. The tar filesystem has been serving as the best data exchange format among UNIXes and Linusi over the years. The only thing needed on the Macbook is the tar utility. So, on the FreeBSD machine, you first put the files onto the external HDD using tar - note that you're using it DIRECTLY, you're NOT creating any files on a file system: % tar cvf /dev/da0 files Then, on the Macbook, you simply extract from the external disk, using MacOSX's tar command: $ tar xvf /dev/da0 Done! Usually, tar will preserve your file names and file attributes. No need to look for character translation tables, no need for chmod -x for the files, no need for the uppercase / lowercase trouble. Of course, you cannot read such a hard disk with Windows, but this wasn't part of the question anyway. There is no need to pollute a hard disk with MICROS~1 FAT when you're using UNIXens only. And yes, it is that simple. :-) Simple. Useful. UNIX. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: backup msdos slice
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:10:42 -0500, Jerry jerr...@msu.edu wrote: So, what I would like is something that would dump the MS slice to a FreeBSD file or media written in the FreeBSD world and that I could then pick out files and directories somewhat like I do using restore on a dump file. There should be a simple way: Just dd the FAT partition into a file. You can then backup this file in FreeBSD (by any way you want). In order to access files inside the dd image you can simply mount it using the md (memory disk) facility. An example (not verified, I don't have any MICROS~1 around); I'll assume that /dev/ads2c is the FAT file system in question (again, I do admit that I don't know how FAT partitions occur as device files in FreeBSD). % dd if=/dev/ads2c of=fat.dd bs=1m 12345678+1 records in 12345678+1 records out Now you've got fat.dd. You can backup this file or just backup content parts of it. % sudo mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 10 -f fat.dd % mount -t msdosfs -o ro /dev/md10 /mnt You now can access the files in fat.dd from the /mnt subtree. Be sure to check % man mount_msdosfs for additional options you might need (character conversion, large, longnames, mask, ... - I don't exactly know what to use). Now you can partwise plusgood backup files from within /mnt, using your favourite backup method (tar to tape, rsync to remote machine or what you prefer). Basically, I want to back up the MSDOS slice (I know MS calls it a primary partition) from the FreeBSD side of things. I can read and write the slice nicely from FreeBSD, but not dump/restore. Now you can. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:22:50 +0100, Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.net wrote: FBSD UG skrev: You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one Apple computer. Mostly semantics, if I name my computer APPLE Then it's legal to install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does not have to be a computer named APPLE it could be IBM, HP or any other brand or non brand. I think an important point is that you loose support from Apple if you're not installing Mac OS X on Apple brand hardware. As for the license agreement, if you buy Mac OS X from the shelf (for example), you've not confirmed any contract-like agreement with Apple yet, but you've purchased some rights already, for example the right to burn the whole package (not a nice example but I'm sure you get the idea); the EULA mentions nothing about this (legally possible) behavior. The Mac OS X versions sold along with the Hackintosh are no illegally pirated copies, they're boxes from the shelf. It's up to the customer what to do with it. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /bin/sh does not read profile
Good evening Betram et al. I've read the discussion thread as far as it went and would like to share my own solution to a similar problem, mapped onto the sh topic. Maybe it works. A little background: First of all, because my standard dialog shell is the system's C shell, the files important are /etc/cshrc with the settings, such as setenv, alias and path, furthermore /etc/csh.login to be executed after login, and /etc/csh.logout, executed after logout. Local to the user exist ~/.cshrc, ~/.login and ~/.logout which are used if present. In order to make X work properly with these settings, I have a kind of two stages mechanism which consists of the files ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession. The first one is used by X (xdm) to determine what to do after successful user login, e. g. start some programs and then exec the window manager / desktop environment. Note that both files are chmodded executable: % ll .xsession .xinitrc -rwxr-xr-x 1 poly pgm 807 Mar 3 02:46 .xinitrc* -rwxr-xr-x 1 poly pgm 43 Apr 27 2006 .xsession* The ~/.xsession doesn't do anything besides first incorporate settings from ~/.cshrc and then execute ~/.xinitrc. #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc It is shebanged with the shell I want to use, which is the C shell. If ~/.xsession is called, it's last action is to execute ~/.xinitrc. If ~/.xsession is NOT called, ~/.xinitrc will be executed anyway. It does the following: #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc xrandr --size 1400x1050 xrandr --fb 1400x1050 xsetroot -solid rgb:3b/4c/7a # ... your initializations 'n stuff here ... exec wmaker Note that this script is shebanged for sh again. Any X terminals started now (with csh inside) have the settings from ~/.cshrc. Mapped onto the initial sh problem, I'd suggest to create the two files mentioned as follows: ~/.xsession: #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.shrc ] . ~/.shrc [ -f ~/.profile ] . ~/.profile exec ~/.xinitrc ~/.xinitrc: #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.shrc ] . ~/.shrc [ -f ~/.profile ] . ~/.profile my_init_stuff_1 my_init_stuff_2 my_init_stuff_3 exec my_wm_startup Now any instance of sh started should be aware of the settings. Finally, please note that I'm not a guru for sh (or bash) because I do use sh only for scripting, and bash never. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 7.1-release and KDE4
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:43:42 -0600, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: I thought lame was one of the packages that couldn't be distributed in binary form due to license restrictions. In the past, it really was. But I think it was possible to add it via pkg_add. It's some time ago, but memory serves me right, I did pkg_add -r lame because it was possible... if there was a way to find out if some software has been installed via port OR package, I could find this out. :-) Because of the few dependencies, it's no problem to use the port to install it first, then pkg_add -r the KDE 4 packages. Maybe install nasm prior to make. The Makefile of lame still states: RESTRICTED= patent issues, see http://www.mp3licensing.com/ If licensing problems are still present, there may be no way to put a precompiled package onto the FTP server. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /bin/sh does not read profile
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:11:18 -0800 (PST), Peter Steele pste...@maxiscale.com wrote: I have a similar problem, but with bash. I have both my personal account and root set to use bash instead of sh and when I login the .bashrc file is not read. My system does not have an X environment, it's plain old BSD. How can I get it to load .bashrc when I login? I'm using a 7.0 binary release. I read from the manpage bash-3.2.25 according to the FILES section: /etc/profile The systemwide initialization file, executed for login shells ~/.bash_profile The personal initialization file, executed for login shells ~/.bashrc The individual per-interactive-shell startup file When the shell is the login shell (prefixed with - in the process list), it seems that it needs to read ~/.bash_profile (and not the ~/.bashrc file). So you could put . ~/.bashrc into ~/.bash_profile to get a workaround. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Status field STATE in top(1) interactive mode
Hi list, in order to find out why Opera often keeps hanging (doing nothing), often for several minutes, I checked its top(1) output. Reading man top, I found the following explaination: [...] STATE is the current state (one of START, RUN (shown as CPUn on SMP systems), SLEEP, STOP, ZOMB, WAIT, LOCK or the event on which the process waits) [...] When Opera just hangs(TM) :-), it is in one of the states ucond or umtxn - and sucking up to 100% WCPU. Here is my question: Is there an explainative list that gives a clue about what this state indicates? Where are these event[s] on which the process waits documented? When I could guess, then I'd say that ucond means unconditioned, in no condition (which would be a very strage state - the absense of any state), and umtxn... um... USB mass storage transmit number? No idea. Other states that I see have a more descriptive name, such as pause, select or getblk and even kqread. Setting: I have opera-9.63.20081215_1 on OS 7-STABE from August 2008. Thank you! -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How do I determine the FreeBSD world revision/version?
Just an addition: On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:54:02 +0100, Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se wrote: No, there is no such information. The version stored in the kernel applies to both kernel and userland. This is correct for the sources which usually are updated both (running make update in /usr/src). If you do 'mix-and-match' where different parts of your system come from different versions of FreeBSD you will have to keep track of this yourself. Such differences can occur if you 1st - make update 2nd - build and install world and kernel 3rd - make update again 4th - build and install kernel only It can as well happen if you make install for a certain part of the OS (from the /usr/src tree) only. An indication of the current version of any part of the OS or the kernel can be obtained from the $FreeBSD$ CVS tag on a per-file basis. But note that these don't refer to a RELEASE or STABLE notation. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Status field STATE in top(1) interactive mode
On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:10:08 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote: umtx lock, umtx, umtxn, umtxpi and umtxpp are internal kernel strings that are used to identify particular locks and wait conditions where a process may block while running inside the kernel. Okay, this makes things more clear to me. A recent FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT kernel shows: [...] Having a look at various source files makes me believe that the problem described has something to do with memory access of Opera through the kernel (mutex - mtx). It furthermore explains the hanging - a sleep command in the kernel. For the uncond state, I found nothing as informative as the above. Maybe it's a don't know placeholder. :-) PID USERNAMETHR PRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPU COMMAND 9774 poly 3 1010 145M 115M ucond0:00 11.08% opera Furthermore, I think top(1) gets the text for the locks from somewhere else, they're not part of the top(1) sources. At least, /usr/src/usr.bin/top is very dry and doesn't contain much more when in /usr/obj. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Health Monitoring on Dell 600SC
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 23:04:45 -0500 (EST), Dan Mahoney, System Admin d...@prime.gushi.org wrote: Hey all, I've got a dell 600SC in a remote location, and it's started freezing up (I'm thinking I've got a dying fan). I'm not familiar with this special Dell system, but maybe the tools mbmon and healthd (from ports) can help you to monitor at least fan speeds and temperatures (as well as voltages). They're using the kernel's SMB facility. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hardware list in a machine
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:07:51 +, Ricardo Jesus ricardo.meb.je...@gmail.com wrote: % pciconf -lv man pciconf for further details. Additionally: usbconf to list USB devices, and camcontrol to list SCSI devices, as well as atacontrol for ATA devices. And finally, dmesg. :-) Note that these are *system tools*. In order to obtain more information, it may be required to install some tools from the Ports Collection. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hardware list in a machine
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:24:24 +, Ricardo Jesus ricardo.meb.je...@gmail.com wrote: Polytropon I can't seem to find usbconf. % usbconf usbconf: Command not found. % whereis usbconf usbconf: Is it a third party application? My mistake, sorry. Of course it's usbdevs, a tool that comes with the OS. % which usbdevs /usr/sbin/usbdevs Its manpage offers various options how to show the attached USB devices, as well as the USB controller's / hub' capabilities. The most common use is usbdevs -vd to obtain the most important informations. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bsd vs gpl
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:02:47 -0500, David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net wrote: The source code is always free under BSD, contrary to what GPL proponents claim. Terms like enslavement of code come into mind, BSD thieves and others... But this isn't only the case with BSDL. The MIT uses a similar license for X, as far as I know, and Apache does it as well. Just that under BSD you are free to keep ownership of your own work. The BSDL doesn't change anything related to copyright (which is on the side of the coders). GPL states that if you make changes those changes must be made available under the same terms as the original source code. Yet somehow darlings of the GPL world such as Red Hat, MySQL, and others, skirt around that onerous requirement. That's why the GPL is often called a viral license. As far as I know, not only using GPL code, also linking against a GPL library would require to put the initial work under GPL. I'd like to make an addition: The freedom of the BSDL intentionally allows to close sources. This can be considered theft, if one would like to use this interpretation. When taking some BSDL code, there's no need to contribute anything back. One argument could be that the money or hardware given to the FreeBSD developers is abused by those who silently take advantage of their work. But finally, it's always the developer who decides what to do with his own work. If he intends to allow others to make money from his code without giving anything back, it's his choice to do so. If a supporter doesn't like this decision, he should think about his support. Closing code doesn't make the code disappear which it is based upon, so code doesn't get unfree. I know, this can lead into an endless discussion. It has already taken place on other platforms, such as here: http://www.osnews.com/comments/20740 Forgive me my comment. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to auto-detect a USB drive?
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 07:42:04 -0700 (PDT), Peter Steele pste...@maxiscale.com wrote: I want to have a process running on my FreeBSD box that automatically detects when a USB drive is inserted. What's the easiest way to accomplish this? I know I could simply monitor /var/log/messages and look for the appropriate events to appear, but is there a more elegant way? The system will monitor it itself. :-) My question to you would be: What exactly do you mean by automatically detect? The drive *is* automatically detected. Should it be mounted afterwards? The creation of the device files (after system startup) is controlled by the file /etc/devfs.rules. You can use automounters to automatically mount devices when they appear. In order how to determine file systems, slices and partitions on such an USB device, you could, for example, have a look at how FreeSBIE does it. Additionally, there are already tools integrated in KDE and Gnome that automount USB devices. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
SanDisk USB stick with FreeBSD 7
Hi, I've gotten an USB stick with 8 GB which doesn not work with FreeBSD 7-STABLE-20080811. I've googled and found that this particular product might be defective by factory. Anyone has an idea how to make it accessible with FreeBSD? In order to have maximal abilities for data transfer, this stick is msdosfs formatted. But no proper device will occur if plugged in. Some data here: umass0: SanDisk Cruzer Micro, class 0/0, rev 2.00/2.00, addr 2 on uhub3 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: SanDisk Cruzer Micro 8.02 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: UNIT ATTENTION, Medium not present umass0: at uhub3 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry umass0: detached There is only /dev/da0. % fdisk da0 *** Working on device /dev/da0 *** parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=977 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=977 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 11 (0x0b),(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT) start 44, size 15679396 (7655 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ head 0/ sector 45; end: cyl 975/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: UNUSED The data for partition 3 is: UNUSED The data for partition 4 is: UNUSED Sothe partition data can be read, why is there no device file to access the partition? because of the line da0: Attempt to query device size failed: UNIT ATTENTION, Medium not present I think it's not possible to get rid of this problem by reformatting the stick. I think about returning it to the vendor with a hardcopy of dmesg which reveals that the stick is defect. :-) Thanks for any recommendations. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SanDisk USB stick with FreeBSD 7
Oops, hit the wrong reply button... On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:49:53 +0300, \Remorque\ odhia...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:33:23 +0300, \Remorque\ odhia...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for top-posting! No problem. I used to have one of these and it worked with Windows, FreeBSD 6.x and even 7.x until one day I broke it with my carelessness. When I got you correctly, this means that it *should* work with FreeBSD 7 without any magic done to the system? Please get me right: If I need some modification on my 7.x system to make it work, I still can't use the stick on my 6.x and 5.x systems, so it would be useless. It should (have) work(ed), yes, like this: mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt Exactly, this is what I expected, and which worked with other Windows formatted USB sticks in the past. But due to not having /dev/da0s1... allthough fdisk da0 showed the partition... no luck. But as you can see, yours has problems.. as appears in dmesg. Okay, now I am sure to have something defective. I'll return it with a dmesg hardcopy. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SanDisk USB stick with FreeBSD 7
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:35:10 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: da0: SanDisk Cruzer Micro 8.02 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: UNIT ATTENTION, Medium not present this suggest defective device or USB controller/driver problems. I think so, too. FreeBSD relies on correctly working devices, and it checks for this. The strange thing was that I could read the partition table via fdisk da0. To be sure, I've tried the stick on the USB 1.0 controller (message above) and on the USB 2.0 controller of the mainboard, with similar result: umass0: SanDisk Cruzer Micro, class 0/0, rev 2.00/2.00, addr 2 on uhub2 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: SanDisk Cruzer Micro 8.02 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: UNIT ATTENTION, Medium not present if you can - check it on another computer running other OS (linux, windoze) On Windows PC, the stick has been accessible, but Properties showed a minimum disk space occupation (circa 300 kB) allthough there was nothing on the stick. Linux: Not invented here. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Keyboard adaptor PS/2 - USB to use with FreeBSD
Dear list, in the future I'm going to use a device which doesn't have any PS/2 sockets anymore to attach keyboard and / or mouse. This device is equipped with USB ports only. (Yes, you guessed it, it will be some kind of Netbook that needs some ordinary physical user interface - CRT, keyboard, mouse - to be used properly when placed in the office.) I'm aware of the fact that there are adaptors (adapters?) do plug a standard PS/2 keyboard (and mouse) into an USB port. Do I have to pay attention to get a specific device or are they that simple (wired) that any will do? Additionally, I'm aware that there are some vice versa adaptors to plug an USB mouse into a PS/2 port. I already know that this will only work if the PS/2 mouse does also support USB protocoll (or something similar), or do I confuse this with the older PS/2 to serial (9 pin) adaptors where only few mice could be used? Reason: I *insist* on using my IBM model M keyboard on that device. =^_^= -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Execute and lock a user into a program upon login
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:12:07 -0400, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: Steve Bertrand wrote: Hi everyone, Although the application of my question focuses on network operation, I believe that the objective fits this list. Mostly irrelevant, I have been working on securing my network perimeter. I have a FreeBSD box that acts as a host-based BGP peer to all edge connected routers. I use this host-based Quagga FBSD router to distribute routes that are to be blackholed by the edge devices. What I want is to set up an environment so that when a specific user logs in to the box via SSH, a command is run, and they immediately get dropped into the environment that the command produces. When they exit this 'command', the login session is dropped. Essentially, I want to 'lock' a user into a program upon SSH login, and drop them from the SSH session when the program terminates. In essence: - user 'router' connects via SSH - user is dropped into the application 'vtysh' - user performs operations - user exits from program - shell drops (ie. user does not have to exit the csh shell to drop the SSH connection) I probably should have explicitly stated that I'd like help as to how I would go about doing what I want to do, instead of simply stating my goals ;) If the user's shell is csh (FreeBSD's standard dialog shell), you could achieve the goal: ~/.login vtysh logout Only problem: I don't know how the shell will act when the user terminates the vtysh application (^C)... Idea: When the application vtysh is terminated, the next command in the .login file will be executed, which is the logout command that will cause the login shell to exit. This will close the SSH connection as well. (I haven't checked this, sorry.) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:43:53 -0600 (MDT), Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net wrote: Anyone have another suggestion? At this point, I need to get X installed so I can even consider a window manager. What about using pkg_add for X and the other ports it depends on? Check if the binary packages are new enough because they may be dated some time behind the freshly updated ports tree. Usually, pkg_add -r will install all dependencies. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GELI full disk, booting from thumb drive - can't get to /usr?
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:03:36 -0700 (PDT), b...@vesterman.com wrote: I've been trying to set up a system (7.0 Release) with full-disk encryption, using GELI, and booting from a thumb drive. When booting, it gets as far as asking me for the passphrases of the various encrypted disks; when I give them, GELI indicates that it successfully attached to each, but after I've entered the last of them, the system puts out a bunch of messages (most of which quickly scroll off my screen) looking like it's trying to continue booting, but having problems. Those that are left when it finally stops scrolling seem to indicate that it can't get to /usr. Here is what remains on my screen when it stops scrolling: eval: /usr/sbin/sendmail: not found /etc/rc: WARNING: run_rc_command: cannot run /usr/sbin/cron Local package initialization: dirname: not found Starting background file system checks in 60 seconds. logger: not found This indicates that your assumption is right, access to /usr is not possible. But what comes into my mind is that *if* /usr could not be mounted, the system is usually put into single user mode instead of continuing to boot. My suggestion: have you tried scolling up and looking for the first message that looks strange, maybe a message that says something about /usr? (Press the Scroll Lock key and use the arrow keys / page scrolling keys to access previous screen content.) If I start up Fixit from a LiveFS CD, geli attach and mount what should be /usr as something like /myusr, I can see that all of the things I expect to be there really are there (including, for example, libexec/getty). Does your thumb drive (for booting) something generally different than you do when starting with the LFS CD? -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installing packages
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:22:02 +0100 (CET), marco.borsat...@libero.it
marco.borsat...@libero.it wrote:
Hi, this are my questions.
1) I've installed many packages using pkg_add -rK [package] because
I had the idea to use the same packages on a different PC. Packages
are present in the directory i used as a repository, but only the
requested packages, not the dependecies.
When I tried on another PC pkg_add [package] (I've copied all the
requested packages on a USB HD) the program tells me that it cannot
find dependencies. What is my mistake?
As it has already been suggested, it may be that you missed some
dependencies. I'll equip you with my (dirtily hacked) pkg_download
script so you can be sure to have all the dependencies. You can
delete the -n option if you wish to download AND install the
packages. The default behaviour is to fetch them only. (Original
intention: Download package and dependencies on system A with
Internet access, copy the result to system B without Internet
access, and then install them there.)
#!/bin/sh
#
# pkg_download.sh
# ===
#
# fetch a precompiled package as well as its dependencies
# for further installation
#
# Written 2008-08-19
if [ $1 = ]; then
echo $0 package
exit 1
fi
echo -n fetching $1 ...
if [ -f $1.tbz ]; then
echo $1.tbz already there
exit 1
fi
pkg_add -fKnrv $1 $1.txt 21
# -f = force, -K = keep, -n = no install, -r = remote, -v = verbose
echo done
for DEP in `cat $1.txt | grep $1 | grep depends on | cut -d ' -f 6 | cut -d
/ -f 2`; do
echo dependency for $1 is ${DEP}
$0 ${DEP}
done
rm $1.txt
exit 0
--
Polytropon
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Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: renaming user account?
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:25:06 -0400, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com wrote: However, the canonical way to do this is using the pw command. pw will sanity check all your changes to ensure you don't end up with a groups file that doesn't match your master.password, etc. There *may* be one additional thing you would have to take care of manually: If you change the user's name, and still some of his files contain the old name (e. g. in paths where /home/oldname is used instead of ~ or $HOME), you still have to change this manually. You can use tools like the Midnight Commander, function Meta-?, to search files for the old user name (or use find + grep). Eventually, check system's mail aliases file, if you had this user setup to receive mail (e. g. from night jobs). It's somewhat better suited for use in scripts than use by humans. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: RAID 1 failure
Maybe it's a typo in the mail, but two things look stange to me: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:21:17 +0800, Ruel Luchavez ruel.free...@gmail.com wrote: BUT when i type a command #mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1a/mt ^ ^^ mount:dev/mirror/gm0s1a/mnt:unknown special file or file system ^ ^^^ Is this intended? Or just a typo in the reproduction? I get this error: fstab:/etc/fstab:0: No such file or directory fstab:/etc/fstab:0 No such file or directory [...] when I go to the directory /dev/mirror then issue ls, heres the filename inside the directory gmo gmos1 gmos1a gmos1b gmos1c gmos1d gmos1e gmss1f I think there is a miss type (typo) in my part during I followed the HOW TO,in which incase of writing 0 i wrote letter o..am I write? Yes, looks like... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Text mode dialog library like TSO
Dear list, I'm searching for something really strange, maybe some reader will be able to tell me what I'm searching for. :-) For a special application, I need a programmable dialog library that has... well, how to describe it... anyone know SIOS? Or at least TSO? A bit like this. A kind of form-driven screen layout. A silly example: E n t e r s o m e d a t a --- Name: Address: Foo: Pups: ___Furz: ___ Bar: /__/__ Logon: F1F2F3F9 F10 Help Done Reset Print Cancel --- 250/813 Where I used underscores, an input line should occur. Positions and length as well as colour of text and input should be specified, customization of function keys would be great, skipping from input field to input field, too. Default values would eventually appear in the input lines. The whole library should be accessible via C, or at least for a shell script. You know, a bit like Tcl/Tk, but in text mode. Any suggestions? Ideas? If not, I will need to write this myself, but I considered asking the list for being able to avoid reinventing the wheel. I know it's not such a big deal, but if it alredy exists...? -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Text mode dialog library like TSO
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:23:58 -0400, michael michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote: ok, i'm a bit drunk but from what i gather is that you want a purely text mode form program? Yes. For X, I would have used Tcl/Tk for this quite simple purpose, or would have used Gtk with C. ala, ncurses, or just text mode, as in the old monochrome days? if so, i might be able to supply you with such. No no, ncurses is okay. In case I need to create this kind of dialog library myself, I would use ncurses because it seems to be the best sub library to create this kind of dialog means. You did already create such kind of functionality? Seems that I'm not the only insane programmer on earth. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Text mode dialog library like TSO
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:22:01 -0700, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote: Consider looking at dialog(3), which rides on top of ncurses. There's also a CLI utility by the same name handy for shell-scripting purposes. Allthough dialog does come with the basic means I did describe, it looks a bit... bulky? I don't want to sound impolite, but consider the width of ++ Name: || ++ to Name: which would be more... elegant. But man dialog is very interesting. It even offers functionalities (lists, yes/no buttons etc.) that I haven't thought of. Thank you, I'll take this into mind. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Text mode dialog library like TSO
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:58:54 +0100, Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se wrote: Another alternative might be the form(3) library which also is built on top of ncurses. It seems to be a bit more cumbersome to use than dialog(3) but is probably somewhat closer to what you were looking for. If you look around a bit on the web you can probably find several tutorials and references for both curses as well as the form, menu. and panel libraries that are usually included with most curses implementations (including ncurses.) See for example http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NCURSES-Programming-HOWTO/ Wow, I'm impressed: forms at least gives a good toolkit for what I need, and CDK (curses development kit) is even in the ports. It's examples are very interesting, it seems to be what I need. The world is safe, I won't reinvent the wheel. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: recover data from damaged msdos fat32 partition
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:05:57 +0800, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: I have installed these ports autopsy dd_rescue ddrescue fatback formost sleuthkit If my understanding of reading their documentation is correct, they all need a empty disk to copy the bad disk sectors to in sequence. Is this a correct understanding? It is. These tools work in a non-destructive way, this means their (eventually failing) attempts to recover data do not do any damage to the original (defective) disk. The defective disk isn't repaired, that would be too dangerous to try. I would even mention to first make a 1:1 dd copy of the defective FAT partition and using those tools with the copy, not with the original. msdos fat32 file system has a backup fat table as stated in the docs. Do any of the sectors rescue programs read the backup fat table? dd_rescue - No, does simply copy the partition 1:1. ddrescue - The same. sleuthkit - Usually work on a lower level. formost - Works on a lower level and extracts data files by magic. autopsy - Offers a server for forensic browsing. fatback - Kind of undelete tool, no. The TSK's tools dls, fls and ils don't seem to offer the option in question. I read about using alternate superblocks, but that refers to the UFS file system and not the 2nd FAT. Maybe it's possible to exactly locate and extract this backup FAT first and then replace the defective FAT with this copy, using tools like dd? Not interested in the XP system or programs directors. Just want user data files created by adobe pagemaker. Dont know what the file extension is for sure or if there are any way to ID the file from internal content. Best guess I have on file extension is .cv5 Do not have a file to examen. The recovery utilities that act by magic aren't interested in the file name extension. From the manuals of the programs listed above that mention such a functionality, there's no word about Adobe Pagemaker. Would it have been generic files (such as JPG files for images, TeX / text files for text), or some kind of ODF archive, it would be much easier. What are the general steps I need to do to recover data from this msdos FAT32 disk with corrupted fat table and maybe corrupted data? First, copy the partition: % ddrescue /dev/ad0s2 fat.dd I'm not sure how the msdosfs formatted disk / the FAT partition will show up as device file in FreeBSD. In the result, you can unplug the disk / remove it and only work with the copy. Then, you can start extracting data from it, for example with % mkdir retrieve % foremost -i fat.dd -v -o retrieve -t all The manpage of foremost has some examples, too. The manpage of fatback isn't great, info fatback has more details. For TSK, use something like this: % dls -t raw -f fat -v fat.dd I've got no FAT partitions (defective or intact) at hand so I cannot check if this really works as I think it should. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Old slow computers can still crank away (Formerly RE: Portsnap vs CSup)
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:12:12 -0400, Sean Cavanaugh millenia2...@hotmail.com wrote: Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:48:26 +0100 for sure not KDE, but X and FreeBSD itself with good software running on it works FAST on 100Mhz machine with 48MB RAM. Yes compiling is slow, but normal usage is FAST. I never used gnome or KDE on it, ran Blackbox insted. I can ensure that it is still fast. My slowest FreeBSD system, a 150 MHz P1 with 64 (now 128 MB) EDO RAM, is completely usable with WindowMaker and applications that do not try to be an all in one solution, such as mplayer for videos, xmms for MP3 and OGG, gv, xzgv, StarOffice, LaTeX, Opera and other specialized software. In terms of server usage these old systems run quite well, don't consume much power (important when they run 24/7/365). To add this, my 300 MHz P2 with 128 MB RAM runs SLOWER (!) with FreeBSD 5 than my 2 GHz P4 with 768 MB (SDR-SD) RAM with FreeBSD 7. This is mostly due to the software running on top of it. While FreeBSD itself gave a speed boost (in booting and performance), this advantage was eaten up by the new applications completely, due to improved libraries. X starts slower, windows render slower, browser runs slower, nearly everything. I'm not lying, it's the truth. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Text mode dialog library like TSO
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:34:52 +0100, cpghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: Besides dialog(3), there's also a C++ class library that emulates Borland's Turbo Vision's SAA interface. Two implementations are in ports: devel/rhtvision devel/tvision Ugh! :-) The day I got a TurboPascal 7.0 box and manuals I stopped using this language. I hope nobody gives me a similar box for C. :-) After some testing, I think I'm completely happy with CDK and forms (which is even usable for scripting). I try to avoid C++ whenever possible, even for X interactive applications I prefer Gtk with C. The SAA interface is much too complicated for the things I'd have to use it. It really needs to be as simple as possible, with a very narrow set of functionalities. SAA/TV is really too much (too good) for this. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Compression with *.zip output
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:47:06 +0100 (CET), Zbigniew Szalbot z.szal...@lcwords.com wrote: Hello, Is there a command utility to help me compress files with *.zip extenstion so that windows users can download and unpack it without using any special software? Maybe this is a stupid follow-up question, but... since WHEN is Windows able to handle any kind of archive file (except its own CAB format) without installing any third party software? Windows users NEED to install additional software for every little piece that a proper OS should be able to do on its own... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Compression with *.zip output
First of all, thanks for enlightening me. I don't use any MICROS~1 products so it was a really honest question. Whenever I needed interoperability with a Windows PC, there was the big problem: For any additional functionality foo you needed to install WinFoo. There was nothing from the OS's side. On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:27:20 +0200, Manolis Kiagias sonic200...@gmail.com wrote: Wildly off-topic as we are discussing Windows, but all recent versions (XP, Vista, etc) can handle zip files. They call them compressed folders (don't confuse with NTFS compression though) and even have a silly wizard-like interface for extracting files from them. If you don't like it you can always install WinZip to take over this function. I've seen WinZip and my stomache reported to me. :-) Much better is the FAR Manager which handles zip archives (and many others) just like directories, like the Midnight Commander does. It's typical for MICROS~1 to make things more complicated than they need to be, and invent new names for already known stuff. The next time someone mentions compressed folders I will know what he's talking about, and show him some (real) folders I have compressed to 10cm x 10cm x 10cm handy sized cubes. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Creating a 10km wireless bridge...pointers?
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:43:01 -0600, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote: Something like: LAN-BSDrouter-modem-Antenna~~air~~Antenna-modem-DSL Your BSD router would act as a gateway, eventually using functions like IPDIVERT and DHCPd via RF. It would then serve as an AP, put in simple words. This should be achievable mostly by means of the base OS. For the RF transmission part, you will need antennas (yagí type ideally) with a good signal gain and narrow radiation. It's possible to build them, but I'm sure they're sold, too. Optionally, a power amplifier (PA) may be added on both ends to strengthen the signal if it's too low. In case you have something in the way that hinders a direct view from your desired AP to the client (e. g. a mountain), things get a bit more complicated, a repeater would be needed. But as long as you can see it, you can connect it. :-) Coming back to your suggestion, I'd express it as follows: ~ ~ V V +--+ | ~ ~ | | wireless NIC |---+ | DSL in+--- ^ -- v ---+ | +--+ the wall--*--| ethernet NIC | +---| wireless NIC | at your +--+ +--+ siteyour FreeBSD AP box client's box * insert modem if needed I'm not sure why wou want to employ a modem on the client's site. If it's only about Internet access, it's usable via the WLAN component already. If you want to handle IP telephony and multiple clients... well, more complicated, the client's all in one modem / spliiter / router / DHCP server / firewall / whatnot would need to connect to the RF bridge, I'm not sure if this is possible even if the modem offers WLAN antennas. Tips? References? Advice? Sorry, no. :-) Just some basic thoughts from a radio amateur and FreeBSD user. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: utility that scans lan for client?
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:59:36 -0400, John Almberg jalmb...@identry.com wrote: What I'm looking for is a utility that can scan a LAN for attached clients... i.e., computers that are attached to the LAN. As it has been suggested, nmap is a good tool. Another simple variation would be: % arp -a And for a more detailed analysis, the successor of Ethereal called Wireshark can be very handy (requires X). It makes you be able to see anything that's going on on the LAN (read: everything that reaches your NIC). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: libxml-2-7-3 (php5 pkg_add)
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:59:35 +0100, Christoph Kukulies k...@kukulies.org wrote: I wanted to do a pkg_add -r php5 under 7.1 Beta1 and got a warning: pkg_add: warning: package 'php5-5.2.8' requires 'libxml2-2.7.3', but 'libxml2-2.6.32' is installed Should I care [...] Run your PHP and see if it refuses to work, or if you encounter any problems while running. 2.6.32 and 2.7.3 may be a version gap that leads to nonfunctionality. [...] and if, how do I repair this? You could update your libxms2 port to get it to a newer version. If you're using portupgrade (portinstall), use # pkgdb -aF to fix package dependencies. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: networked audio
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:54:06 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Be great to have some utimate setup (*sigh...*). You'll never have. At the moment you've setup something, just after bringing it home from the shop, it will be considered outdated, and there's already something new on the way that's completely incompatible with everything you have. :-) For now, what Wojciech suggested works, but since most of my ~/Music files are ogg format, mpg123 may not be sufficient. How about ogg123 then? Same use. % cat oggfiles | rsh -l username remote.computer.name ogg123 - ``locate xmms2'' found audio/gxmms2; under construction! Check /usr/ports/audio/xmms2, found out by % cd /usr/ports % make search name=xmms2 -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix admin incident levels
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:00:56 +0200, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin claudiu.vas...@gmail.com wrote: lol, will do that if I can get to an interview :) Prepare for other important questions, like If you were a hot dog, would you eat yourself? or even Him: Describe yourself in two words. Me: Innovative and Creative. Him: Can you explain what you mean by that? Me: But you said two words... From SA's Dumb Interview Questions, page 3, via http://www.somethingawful.com/d/comedy-goldmine/dumb-interview-questions.php :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: networked audio
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:29:36 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: I thought you were kidding about the ogg123, but no! Is there a wav123, an au123, c? :_) wait, I just checked and there *is* a flac123. i'll be [bleeped]. :-) ANyway, re xmms2, it's built (I had it but since there was no front end and since i really didn't want to spejnt days messing with it, I never used it. I've got gxmms2 working on my linux desktopk, but it only works locally. How do I use [gx]mms2 to go over the wire to the audio-server I'm building, show me the playlist here and play thru my better speakers? I had imagined something like: % xmms2 -r zen:/home/kline/Music/ where the -r would indicate remote ... Re xmms2 Miniprod malquoted operations. :-) Because I haven't installed xmms2 on my system, I'm not 100 percent sure, but according to http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Main_Page it seems that you have to run xmms2 on the box that holds your files (server) and control the program's operations via the computer with the better speakers (client) by means of an xmms2 client application. http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Using_the_application A daemonic concept. =^_^= -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installing freebsd on windows
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:12:39 -0400, Harold Hartley wheelie...@gwi.net wrote: I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to install on windows like ubuntu does. I'm not sure I do understand install FreeBSD on 'Windows' - what does on refer to? a) Start an installer from within Windows that installs FreeBSD on the system b) Run FreeBSD within Windows by means of an emulator c) Run FreeBSD as an application in Windows In DOS times, there was a tool that booted Linux from within DOS. Because things are more complicated in Windows, I don't think such a tool does exist - it would have to kick Windows out of memory, and we know that it doesn't like that. :-) But it's still possible to use FreeBSD without leaving Windows. You need an emulator. I don't know how they are called in Windows, but they do exist in FreeBSD as well, for example qemu. In Windows, there's VMWare that you can buy. Using such a means of emulation, you can install FreeBSD on a virtual PC and then use it as it would run on bare metal. I'm just a person that can't afford more than one computer cause I live in a nursing home and I would like to be able to use one computer to choose what I want to boot into, such as windows or unbuntu and maybe a freebsd choice. Then you would need to install FreeBSD on this box. This is easily be done by downloading the proper ISO from the FTP server or FreeBSD's web page. See the excellent documentation in the handbook (on the web page, too) to learn how this is done. I do boot into ubuntu 90% of the time and enjoy it so much, but I have read about freebsd and researched it fully and I wish I could be able to run freebsd as with all the apps freebsd has to offer. I would love to be able to install freebsd under windows so I could choose freebsd to boot into when I want. There's no need to think so complicated. You start the computer using the bootable CD or DVD, then install the OS (just as you installed Ubuntu) and then instruct your boot manager to add a new entry for FreeBSD. That's all. I hope I'm not saying anything incorrect, but to answer your main question: No, it's not possible to install FreeBSD in Windows. What you want to achieve has nothing to do with Windows, just ignore it. I hope to hear from freebsd about my request, and by the way, I'm not a linux expert so I don't know everything about linux, but I'm always learning. FreeBSD's documentation (the handbook and the FAQ, to be found on FreeBSD's web site) will help you to do so. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: xorg-server-1.5.3_7, /usr/ports/UPDATING, mouse
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:29:35 -0600, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote: So I don't think the hal has the concept of joining the keyboard and mouse together to a single usb device. The pair works beautifully in the console... so I'm not sure if this is a bug worthy of reporting, or if I should research it more and try to discover the solution with a logitech pair that is known to work in the console to work in hal. Does the combination result in two devices (ukbd0, ums0)? Maybe it's possible to instruct HAL to use the devices explicitely, by hard coding them into some configuration file? -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installing freebsd on windows
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:59:40 -0400, Harold Hartley wheelie...@gwi.net wrote: Ubuntu uses wubi installer like an application and can be uninstalled if anyone didn't like it. And it sets it up at the boot up time a list to choose from. That is about what I was talking about. Okay, I do understand. I haven't used any MICROS~1 products yet, and I've installed Ubuntu just from its CD or DVD for testing purposes, but I'm not a Linux user, so I definitely don't have much experience in this sector. I'm not sure how they did that using the wubi installer But if freebsd could do something like that, it would be great. Hmmm... I may still ask: What should it be good for, exactly? Those who want to use FreeBSD usually install it by one of the standard means. They usually don't have Windows or do already want to use a two-or-more-OS system, but they don't run the installer from within Windows. (Side note: I think there's already a tool that lets you install FreeBSD from within Linux, useful if you want to replace an already pre-loaded OS on a server where you don't have physical access to simply put in the FreeBSD installation CD.) Those who want to try FreeBSD don't install it, they run it from a live system CD (e. g. FreeSBIE) or use it in an emulator (and install it there). Furthermore, there's VirtualBSD: http://www.virtualbsd.info/ for maximum Windows compatibility. :-) But will it over write the bootup list or the windows or ubuntu software. No. At installation time, you can instruct it to leave the boot area of your hard disk untouched. The only thing you may need is to put a setting into the boot manager you're using at the moment to boot between Ubuntu and Windows so it can also boot into FreeBSD. Maybe your boot manager automatically detects the new OS and adds a choice by itself. You can, however, use FreeBSD's boot manager to make the boot selection at system startup. Everything you need is some disk space on your hard disk (not occupied by any slice, partition how it's called by Windows). The installer allows you to delete anything existing (what you don't need anymore) and create a slice to install FreeBSD in. You can also install it on another (physical) hard disk. Or does freebsd offer a choice to install without messing anything up. It's a professional operating system, of course it does. :-) (FreeBSD exactly does what you tell it to do, nothing more and nothing less.) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installing freebsd on windows
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:30:58 -0400, Harold Hartley wheelie...@gwi.net wrote: Some may be running windows and may want to try freebsd and doesn't want to rid windows. But if something could be done to make it easy enough for those that doesn't know how to install freebsd or something of that sort. I think the FreeBSD documentation makes it easy enough. :-) NBo, honestly: It's so easy, simply put in the CD and follow the instructions on the screen. There's no black magic involved. I know how to install linux to a drive without other OS's on it and I know how to use the command line to install or setup other apps like flash or java and other apps that need other commands. But I'm sure others are not familiar with using the command line and such for installing a OS. But then, FreeBSD surely isn't for them. For those users, PC-BSD and DesktopBSD are much better ways to go. They do still have a functional FreeBSD OS, but the installer is with nice graphics and guides them through a next, next, next, next, next, reboot procedure as they know it from Windows. If you want to have a look at it, these are the homepages: PC-BSD ===http://www.pcbsd.org/ DesktopBSD ===http://www.desktopbsd.net/ And PC-BSD even provides an installer (PBI) that makes Windows users feel at home: Download something from the web manually, then click next, next, next, finish and have an application installed. :-) I really am interested in freebsd, but I don't want to mess up my OS's on my drive either. You don't need to be frightened of that. In order to wipe off something you still need, you will have to be VERY stupid. :-) FreeBSD provides means that warn you if you're accidentally doing something wrong. But please keep in mind that FreeBSD relies on the circumstance that IF you instruct it to do something, you're SURE that you want to do so. Everything you need is some free space on the disk. Anything else keeps unmodified. My main interest is wanting to learn how to develop code on linux and/or freebsd. Then you won't encounter any problems. As a Linux user, you're already equipped with basic UNIX knowledge that will help you to understand FreeBSD. If I had a second drive on my computer, could I install freebsd on the 2nd drive and still select it from the boot list Of course. As I mentioned, your boot manager will have to know about the new OS, either by you (putting the correct information into it) or by itself (autodetection of a second hard disk with a valid boot block). Maybe I should take this to the other topic of the mailing list. I noticed you CC to the freebsd-questions list. Is that the list I need to continue my questions on. Yes. I think it's okay to CC the list because our conversation may be helpful to others. I'm not intending something evil. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to configure xbiff
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:21:48 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche pieter.don...@ua.ac.be wrote: What precise command do I have to write in what startup file, so that this does the same thing on FreeBSD/KDE3.5 ? I have the following line in my ~/.xinitrc: xbiff -geometry 50x50+0+998 This is for the lower left corner of a 1400x1050 21 CRT. If you think you need further options, consult man xbiff. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Rebuild of Kernel to burn DVD failed
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:35:54 -0700, Kayven Riese kay...@gmail.com wrote: I was trying to burn a DVD KV_BSD# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0 -J -R disk1 :-( unable to CAMGETPASSTHRU for /dev/acd0: Inappropriate ioctl for device You cannot use growiso with the acd driver, you need the cd driver which is provided by atapicam facility. You can simply load it via the kldload command if you don't want to rebuild your kernel. here is the dmesg for the DVD burner KV_BSD# dmesg | grep DVD acd0: DVDR TSSTcorpCD/DVDW TS-L532A/TC51 at ata1-master UDMA33 cd0: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-L532A TC51 Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device Oh, it seems that you already have the atapicam / cd setting in your kernel running. Fine! Just change the command: # growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0 -J -R disk1 This should work. I have a symlink set via /etc/devfs.conf as /dev/dvd@ - cd0 so I can use the command % growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=foo.iso as presented in growisofs's manpage. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Repairing a defective UFS 2 partition with another BSD's fsck
Dear -fs list, last night I had an idea how I could have a chance to repair my defective UFS partition. To remember, this is the whole story: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/freebsd-fs/2008/11/2/3894714 Repairing a defective UFS 2 partition with fsck_ffs (or other means) I thought about the following: As far as I know, UFS isn't only used by FreeBSD, but also by OpenBSD and NetBSD. Variations should be less than, let's say, with Solaris UFS. So it may be that I can use the fsck utility of OpenBSD or NetBSD to check and repair the UFS dd duplicate where FreeBSD's fsck fails with fsck_ffs: bad inode number 306176 to nextinode To use with NetBSD, I've got a NetBSD Live! 2007 live system CD here. For OpenBSD... well, I don't know if they offer any live file system? The only commands I'd need are mount and fsck (both for UFS only). The system should be bootable via CD. Then I would need a shell to do something like this: # mkdir /temp # mount -t ufs -o rw /dev/wd1s1c /temp # cd /temp/rescue # fsck -t ufs -yf ad1s1f.dd In case NetBSD's or OpenBSD's fsck can't operate on the bare file, I'd think about something like: # mkdir /temp # mount -t ufs -o rw /dev/wd1s1c /temp # cd /temp/rescue # mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 10 -f ad1s1f.dd # fsck -t ufs -yf /dev/md10 What do you think, is this even possible? Should I try it? Please keep me CC because I'm on the questions@ list only. Thanks! I'll cross-post it to questions@ in case someone there as an idea for this really strange problem - remember, I'm the second (!) being on this planet having encountered this particular problem. I hope that's an acceptable behaviour. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Desktop environments
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:17:51 -0400, Jesse Feinman jesse.fein...@gmail.com wrote: I am planning on using FreeBSD on a new computer i am building but i would like to know if there is a way that i can install multiple desktop environments and easily switch between them, preferably without restarting. That's no problem. First of all, install the desktop environments and window managers that you want. As far as I know, the big two, KDE and Gnome, come with a means to select what DE / WM to use at login time through their kdm and gdm. Additionally, wdm offers you to choose the DE / WM at login time. This simply requires a login / logout procedure, no restarting of the computer. You can even have it more simple: Don't start X along with the system, login at the console. Modify the exec DE or WM statement in your ~/.xinitrc and type startx to perform the DE / WM startup you have in this file (you can put comment signs infront of those you don't like, enabling the one you want to run). Or you could have several aliases / commands to start X with the DE / WM you want, each with a specific ~/.xinitrc file to fit your needs. The primary purpose for this is to gain complete functionality over the system utilizing all possible tools [...] In principle it's not required to run a specific DE in order to run a program that comes with this DE. For example, you can perfectly run K3B within WindowMaker, as long as all the dependencies of K3B are installed on your system. You can run Gmplayer without Gnome, you can run Koffice in XFCE and so forth... [...] and also to evaluate the different environments to determine which one works best for me. Then, if you won't change the DE / WM every five minutes, you can go with the ~/.xinitrc approach. Short example: #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc xsetroot -solid rgb:3b/4c/7a xset b 100 1000 15 xset r rate 250 30 xset s off xset -dpms #exec gnome-ession #exec fvwm #exec startkde #exec xfwm exec wmaker This will start WindowMaker. Lastly, i am wondering how Compiz-fusion would interact in this case because to my knowledge Compiz is essentially an add on to the KDE and Gnome environments and i am wondering as to how it would function if i were to switch desktops constantly. It would be no problem, as far as I know. I'm not very familiar with Compiz because I'm already tired of eye-candy. :-) You can even use Compiz with XFCE, or use its own compositing functionalities. As far as I understood, Compiz is an addition to the respective DE / WM, and while the DE / WM will run happily without Compiz, those that don't utilize it won't have problems. If Compiz needs specific settings in ~/.xinitrc, you can put some kind of conditional into this file, loading Compiz only with the DE / WM you want. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to configure xbiff
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:39:38 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche pieter.don...@ua.ac.be wrote: From a terminal window command line xbiff -geometry 50x50-5+5 puts it in my upper right corner, [...] Do you use -5 to get rid of a window border added by KDE's window manager? but if I put that in my .xinitrc (and chmod 755 ~/.xinitrc) nothing happens. It needs to be loaded before the startkde exec (I think it was called this way). And your .xinitrc is +x, then it should look a bit like this: #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc xrandr --size 1400x1050 xrandr --fb 1400x1050 xclock -geometry 50x50+50+998 xbiff -geometry 50x50+0+998 xlogo -geometry 50x50+100+998 -render exec startkde All the initial stuff has to end with , and the window manager is the last command, prefixed by exec (so it replaces the shell). Are you using kdm window manager or xdm ? (I have in my /etc/ttys: ttyv8 /usr/local/bin/kdm -nodeamon xterm on secure) Neither. In the past, I've used xdm (as your example above, just with xdm instead of kdm), and this worked fine. A note towards your shell: If you're using the standard dialog shell (i. e. the C Shell), it might be neccessary to have a ~/.xsession which is +x and does contain: #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc Would .xinitrc not be processed by kdm window manager? This is completely possible. Maybe kdm defaults to a builtin xinitrc that launches KDE after successful login. I'm no KDE user so I can't tell. Just as a side question, doesn't KDE offer something with the same functionality like xbiff, so you can use KDE's builtin tool? -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: init panic in freebsd 7.1
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:23:13 -0400, Tsu-Fan Cheng tfch...@gmail.com wrote: init: not found in path /sbin/ (a lot of paths) panic: no init what is that?? The init process is the root of the FreeBSD startup, and the last part of the OS loader cannot find it, so the OS cannot start. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=initapropos=0sektion=8manpath=FreeBSD+7.1-RELEASEformat=ascii You can use a live system CD of FreeBSD (6, 7) or FreeSBIE to boot the system with this CD, it should work. Then you can mount your / partition and check the existance of init which usually is /sbin/init. Don't forget to fsck the hard disk, maybe due to the failing power supply you had some damages on the hard disk (file-wise), or even worse... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: init panic in freebsd 7.1
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:20:46 -0400, Tsu-Fan Cheng tfch...@gmail.com wrote: But while I was testing an exact same mborad I got from ebay, I noticed that the replacing board name my SATA differently from the old board, its designated as ad10 and ad12 instead of ad4 and ad6. What is the mechanism that underlie this?? thank you!! The numbering sceme depends on the controller and the amount of possible disks it allows to be attached, to be describable as free controller slots, no matter if a disk is attached or not. Maybe your first mboard had ad0 - ad4 ATA, ad6 - ad8 SATA, and the new board has (a) more ATA connectors or (b) uses a different numbering for the internal and external SATA ports. If the hardware seems to look exactly the same, there can even be a difference in the BIOS configuration that causes different numbering. Note that this change of the device name usually requires changes in /etc/fstab, e. g. ad4 - ad10 to make the system start on this hardware. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why?? (prog question)
I don't want to start a style debate, but forgive me the
following annotations:
1. Use the tab character for indentation. You can set its
length with your favourite editor (e. g. mcedit: F9,
Options, General; joe: ^TD). Don't waste with spaces.
2. The main() function should be declared as
int main(int argc, char *argv[])
or
int main(int argc, char **argv)
Note that it's returning (int). Use this functionality.
3. In case of errors (e. g. incorrect number of parameters)
use fprintf() to stderr, or perror() with the builtin
error handling (e. g. for file not found by fopen()).
4. Use the predefined return codes, don't hardcode them.
FreeBSD has EXiT_SUCCESS and EXIT_FAILURE, they're for
maximum compatibility (such as with Linux). There are
more exit codes for differentiation, but they're specific
to FreeBSD, as far as I know.
5. This is highly debatable: Use a good style for { and }.
6. Use delimiters around operators, e. g. buf[strlen(buf) - 1]
instead of buf[strlen(buf)-1]; increases readability.
Here is the program again, with some stylistic modifications
and the correct (read: recommended, usual) exit code handling:
/*
* simple prog to join all | very nearly all lines of a text file
* that make up one paragraph into one LONG line.
*
* paragraphs are delimiated by a single \n break.
*/
#include stdio.h
#include string.h
#include stdlib.h
int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
char buf[65536];
if(argc == 1) {
fprintf(stderr, Usage: %s file newfile\n, argv[0]);
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
while (fgets(buf, sizeof buf, stdin)) {
if(*buf == '\n') {
fprintf(stdout, \n\n);
} else {
buf[strlen(buf) - 1] = ' ';
fputs(buf, stdout);
}
}
return EXIT_SUCCESS;
}
Note that compiling with -Wall (always a good option) doesn't
show any warning.
I read my advices again... makes me sound so old! :-)
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Re: Why?? (prog question)
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:48:00 -0400, William Gordon Rutherdale
will.rutherd...@utoronto.ca wrote:
Tabbing is the worst form of indentation. It is *much* better to use
spaces consistently.
may I ask what exactly you mean by consistently? I've seen
various opinions about how many spaces make up one indentation level,
beginning from 1, over 4, up to 10. Where's the consistency, or is
it defined on a per-programmer basis?
And why is this much better?
When I would compare both indentation forms, I'd say that tabbing
is the better form because
+ you can set your individually preferred tab with using the
settings of your editor, be it 1, 4 or 8,
+ you can change the indentation while you're coding, e. g. when
the indentation level makes the code exceed the right margin
of your editor's window,
+ per indentation level only 1 byte is needed (tab = ASCII 9), while
spacing requires more bytes, one per space (space = ASCII 32),
+ while you can convert tabs into spaces, you cannot easily convert
spaces back into tabs, and finally
+ even FreeBSD uses the tabbing style.
I'm aware that one can argue about where { is to be placed, but
I don't see any valid reason to use spaces for indentation instead
of tabs (which I would even call standard).
It's a honest question: What are your arguments for using tabs?
Hint: it is *much* better doesn't count. :-)
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Re: Why?? (prog question)
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:48:00 -0400, William Gordon Rutherdale
will.rutherd...@utoronto.ca wrote:
Tabbing is the worst form of indentation. It is *much* better to use
spaces consistently.
may I ask what exactly you mean by consistently? I've seen
various opinions about how many spaces make up one indentation level,
beginning from 1, over 4, up to 10. Where's the consistency, or is
it defined on a per-programmer basis?
And why is this much better?
When I would compare both indentation forms, I'd say that tabbing
is the better form because
+ you can set your individually preferred tab with using the
settings of your editor, be it 1, 4 or 8,
+ you can change the indentation while you're coding, e. g. when
the indentation level makes the code exceed the right margin
of your editor's window,
+ you need more keypressing to get through the indentation with
the spaces, one keypress per space, while you only need one
keypress per tab (which equals one indentation level),
+ per indentation level only 1 byte is needed (tab = ASCII 9), while
spacing requires more bytes, one per space (space = ASCII 32),
+ while you can convert tabs into spaces, you cannot easily convert
spaces back into tabs, and finally
+ even FreeBSD uses the tabbing style.
I'm aware that one can argue about where { is to be placed, but
I don't see any valid reason to use spaces for indentation instead
of tabs (which I would even call standard).
It's a honest question: What are your arguments for using tabs?
Hint: it is *much* better doesn't count. :-)
// EDIT: added one further argument pro tab
/*
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Re: Question about forcing fsck at boottime
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:57:21 +0200 (CEST), Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de wrote: Google background fsck damage. I was bitten by it myself, and I also recommend to turn background fsck off. If your disks are large and you can't afford the fsck time, consider using ZFS, which has a lot of benefits besides not requiring fsck. You can always ask yourself: What is more important, the boot-up time or my data? In any case, I'd recommend to emphasize the importance of the data, so even with larger UFS disks, it's okay to wait a bit, but then be sure that nothing is damaged. Furthermore, I agree with the recommendation of ZFS. If your hardware is good enough (which shouldn't be a problem today), ZFS handles possible data damages much better and faster. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why?? (prog question)
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:20:17 +0100, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: Linux seems to have adopted sysexits.h too, which provides error codes such as EX_USAGE and EX_CANTCREAT. Good to know this, thanks. I'm not a big Linux user and a much smaller Linux programmer (read: I don't program for Linux), so I wasn't aware that they use it, too. However, in FreeBSD at least the most common programming style is to use 1 for error and 0 for success - e.g. from style(9): errx(1, number overflowed); This matches the definition of the two EXIT_* variables in the standard library header file: % grep EXIT /usr/include/stdlib.h #define EXIT_FAILURE1 #define EXIT_SUCCESS0 It's no problem to use 0 and 1, but personally, I think the verbose reason is better to read. :-) And thanks for the pointer to man 9 style, I see that I've practiced a quite good style over the years without even knowing it. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why?? (prog question)
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:54:17 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
1. Use the tab character for indentation. You can set its
length with your favourite editor (e. g. mcedit: F9,
Options, General; joe: ^TD). Don't waste with spaces.
Ja, been doing this since 1978. Does anybody hit space-key
8 times!?
I've seen corporate guideline for indentation = 10 spaces.
Used ^TD8 and then finally replace tab - ' '. :-)
2. The main() function should be declared as
int main(int argc, char *argv[])
or
int main(int argc, char **argv)
Note that it's returning (int). Use this functionality.
I've come to prefer the *char argv[] ... I didn't use the formal int
return because this was supposed throwaway code. (Going on years now
tho, so ... my-bad.)
The standard assumption of the return code is (int), so if
it's not declared, it's (int) anyway.
4. Use the predefined return codes, don't hardcode them.
FreeBSD has EXiT_SUCCESS and EXIT_FAILURE, they're for
maximum compatibility (such as with Linux). There are
more exit codes for differentiation, but they're specific
to FreeBSD, as far as I know.
This I did not know. I have a prefab include file with a bunch
of my own similar #defines. Wow, great!
FreeBSD defines additional exit codes to specify the reason for
exiting more precisely in /usr/include/sysexits.h - for your
example, exit(EX_USAGE); would be a good exit code.
I don't know how far this is adopted in Linux, but I think you
can only use the C99 two standard return codes.
From man 3 exit:
The C Standard (ISO/IEC 9899:1999 (``ISO C99'')) defines the values 0,
EXIT_SUCCESS, and EXIT_FAILURE as possible values of status.
5. This is highly debatable: Use a good style for { and }.
Well, you're using the KR { }; but for me, the Ingres
style [[ yes, it was invented by someone else ]] gets my vote.
I scan
{
and
}
more easily. 6 of one, half-dozen of another... .
In fact, I'm sticking to the concept that only the highest level
of code groupers deserve a new line {: these are functions in
C and class methods in C++. Everything else has the { appended
(after a space) to the construct that causes the {. So if you find
a }, you only need to look up. It's obvious that a } is caused
by a {, but you want to know the construct that made it appear,
for example if(), while(), a struct definition or something similar.
With this concept at hand, looking up will make you find this
construct in question at the first glance.
You could see this in the example.
But as we'll all agree, this is a thing of individual preference.
Here is the program again, with some stylistic modifications
and the correct (read: recommended, usual) exit code handling:
I'll swipe this. I use this code with openoffice and abiword
because I compose with vi; but I almost always forget to run
my text thru joinlines and have to quit the word processor, run
jlines foo bar; mv bar foo; then restart the word processor.
I figure that I've spend several centuries of my lifetime messing
with jlines, so i'm overdue for doing it right
I think OpenOffice has the function Input - from file (at least
the german version has: Alt-E D = Einfügen Datei). This makes it
easier to incorporate text from an external file.
--
Polytropon
From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: Why?? (prog question)
of arguments and just run all the code they receive through a code formatter like astyle. It lets you set all kinds of options such as brace placement, spacing between parameters, indentation method, and so on. If asking people to change their editor settings doesn't work, this thing fixes it up. On e you setup your reformatter correctly (as according to the corporate guidelines), this is a valid solution, yes. + even FreeBSD uses the tabbing style. And therefore if I submit code for FreeBSD then I will use that format. However I wouldn't recommend it for other projects where that decision has not been established. According to your above argumentation, summarized as it doesn't really matter how you indent, or even if you indent, this is an acceptable standpoint. Personally, I have the (maybe outdated) opinion that a programmer should not only care for his programs to be valid, correct, efficient, well structured, intended and documented, but also tidy and styled. What's to understand from these words can be very individual, I agree. There are lots of cases where it's hard to make code line up the way you want it with tabs. Often code that looks good with one tab length setting (say 8) doesn't look so good with another (say 4). It gets especially bad when there are a few space characters thrown in, which people often do. Okay, I didn't think of this. Taking this argument into mind, spaces can be useful for parameter lists that don't fit into one line, but should line up after the opening (, e. g. foofunction(data, %d,%d,%d, doodle.x, doodle.y, doodle,z, foo, bar, pups, furz, This is some stupid text., doom[dee].quoggle); This wouldn't be easy to achieve with tabs, especially when their width may vary. Thank you for your arguments, I stand partially corrected. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: py24-gobject won't deinstall
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:41:15 -0500, Richard DeLaurell richard.delaur...@gmail.com wrote: I tried pkg_delete to see what depends on py24-gobject and it's a hefty list; is deinstalling that entire list and then installing py25-gobject the only option for me? No, it would be possible to first # pkg_delete -f /var/db/pkg/py25-gobject* and then install the updated version. As long as the update doesn't break any library version numbering, and the functionalities from the previous versions are still intact, there won't be a problem. Finally, if you're using portupgrade, make sure to correct the dependencies: # pkgdb -aF But note that if this procedure fails, you will usually have to deinstall the depending software and then start allover again, this will lead you finally to updated programs, as well as an updated py25-gobject (as a dependency). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
