Re: [gentoo-user] intelfb and 945GM
On 21:42 Tue 25 Mar , Sergey Kobzar wrote: That's one of the reason why I wanted intelfb, but got no luck. I'm using uvesafb at the moment, but still hope intelfb will be fixed soon. I seem to have missed the start of this thread, but if you don't mind, could you give me a quick idea on what is broken within intelfb? I've been debating on switching to it, but keep seeing info on it being broken, and nothing on WHAT is broken. I see screen with many scrolling white lines (probably this are kernel messages). It looks like problem with synchronization or unsupported video mode. uvesafb works nice. -- Sergey -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list uvesafb works, but it is a bit slow, and requires user-space programs to run. Its a great peice of code and such, but something that is kernel-space and able to use hardware effectivly would be even nicer. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re[2]: [gentoo-user] intelfb and 945GM
uvesafb works, but it is a bit slow, and requires user-space programs to run. Its a great peice of code and such, but something that is kernel-space and able to use hardware effectivly would be even nicer. That's why I tried intelfb before... no luck. -- Sergey -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OOo 2.4 and Java
2008. 03. 28, péntek keltezéssel 05.47-kor Andrew Gaydenko ezt írta: Hi! Have installed OOo 2.4 on ~amd64/x86_64 with these flags: cups dbus eds firefox java kde ldap pam -binfilter -debug ... At starting any OOo programm konsole shows: javaldx failed! Tool-Options-Java dialog finds all three installed JREs, but after selecting radio control for any of them and clicking OK nothing changes. Next time the dialog finds JREs again (nothing checked at dialog opening). Help! I have a similar problem on my ~x86. OOo 2.3.x and any kind of java (blackdown, sun whatever version). Both with the binary OOo and compiled version. Except, the Tool-Options-Java never find my installed JREs, even I try to give the path exactly. It never recognize the java environment. I have no idea, why. I checked system-vm, user-vm, I installed lot of JREs, SDKs, does not working. It is really weird and annoying. I cannot find The Ultimate Solution to this kind of problem using google. So, I cannot help, but at least, you are not alone :) IStván -- BSA. Mert megérdemlitek. Open Source. Mert megérdemlem. -- BSA. They value it. Open Source. The value. It. -- http://www.osbusiness.hu -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?
Hi, I had a problem the other day where I needed to shutdown, like in a real hurry. My power supply was packed up and checking out without paying the bill. I was in KDE and just selected logout then shutdown from the menu. Is there a faster way to shutdown so that at least the file system is clean? Some fancy keystroke pattern or a short command maybe? I run foldingathome and that pesky waiting 17 seconds thing was torture. I need it to bypass that little feature as well. I hope I never run into this again but just in case I would like a pointer. It did make it to the point where it said it was unmounting file systems but one partition must have been mounted since it was well, pissed, about not being unmounted cleanly. ;-) Thank goodness for reiserfs coming to the rescue. After putting in a new P/S all is well again. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?
2008/3/28, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I had a problem the other day where I needed to shutdown, like in a real hurry. My power supply was packed up and checking out without paying the bill. I was in KDE and just selected logout then shutdown from the menu. Is there a faster way to shutdown so that at least the file system is clean? Some fancy keystroke pattern or a short command maybe? I run foldingathome and that pesky waiting 17 seconds thing was torture. I need it to bypass that little feature as well. I hope I never run into this again but just in case I would like a pointer. It did make it to the point where it said it was unmounting file systems but one partition must have been mounted since it was well, pissed, about not being unmounted cleanly. ;-) Thank goodness for reiserfs coming to the rescue. After putting in a new P/S all is well again. You can try this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key Regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?
Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb ext Dale: Is there a faster way to shutdown so that at least the file system is clean? Read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt. HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?
Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb ext Daniel Pielmeier: You can try this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key Wow, good to know that Wikipedia has it, just in case I don't have kernel sources installed on my Gentoo systems ;-) Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?
2008/3/28, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb ext Daniel Pielmeier: You can try this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key Wow, good to know that Wikipedia has it, just in case I don't have kernel sources installed on my Gentoo systems ;-) Yeah, i think it is a bit more readable than the kernel documentation. ;-) By the way the safest and recommended command, although a bit longish should be ALT+SysRq(or print)+S(ync)+U(mount)+B(Reboot). Regards, Daniel
Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?
Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
2008/3/28, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb ext Daniel Pielmeier:
You can try this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
Wow, good to know that Wikipedia has it, just in case I don't have kernel
sources installed on my Gentoo systems ;-)
Yeah, i think it is a bit more readable than the kernel documentation. ;-)
By the way the safest and recommended command, although a bit longish
should be ALT+SysRq(or print)+S(ync)+U(mount)+B(Reboot).
Regards,
Daniel
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Since I wanted to shutdown instead of reboot, it would be ALT + SysRq +
S + U + O then correct? I have never done this before so what if any
are the gotcha's with this? Anybody ever do it and can tell me how long
a shutdown takes? Is it like seconds or what? Also, will this work if
I am logged into KDE and in the GUI?
Thanks.
Dale
:-) :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?
Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb ext Dale: I have never done this before so what if any are the gotcha's with this? None. Anybody ever do it and can tell me how long a shutdown takes? As long as you need to strike the keys. Also, will this work if I am logged into KDE and in the GUI? Yes. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:51:20 +0100, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: By the way the safest and recommended command, although a bit longish should be ALT+SysRq(or print)+S(ync)+U(mount)+B(Reboot). Alt-SysRq E I S U B is better as it kills running processes first. If you have time, pause between the keystrokes to give them time to work. -- Neil Bothwick Are Cheerios really doughnut seeds? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot Gentoo to clean windows
On 26 Mar 2008, at 15:19, Mikie wrote: Does anyone know of a product (hopefully free) that can clean a Windows PC while booted on Gentoo? I guess I need a good malware tool that runs on Linux and cleans NTFS volumes. Hi there, Some of the replies to your message are now a little off-topic, so here's some advice about actually cleaning Windows (rather than removing it, or running Linux). I intended to reply to this a couple of days ago, so hope my advice isn't too late. I deal with h0sed Windows installations for my customers all the time. I regularly boot a Knoppix CD and copy the whole C: drive to a portable disk so that I have a complete backup. I find it reassuring to use Linux for this purpose because I feel confident that cp or rsync will copy _every file on the drive_ without just silently ignoring those marked with the hidden flag, or bitching about permissions. But if your system is so hosed you can't fix it from within Windows then it's probably past simple repair. It can be very slow to work on a machine with a lot of crap on it, and there comes a point at which I would never consider working on the machine at the customer's house, simply because it would take so long. If I take the machine home with me I can allow uninstall programs and antivirus to run (unsupervised in the corner of my study) for hours without having to worry about it. Providing the system is bootable, remove all the crap you can see from Add Remove Programs (shortcut: Windows-R, type appwiz.cpl). Some of the browser-hijacking malware does tout itself as legitimate opt-in marketing, and removing it correctly can actually be cleaner than forcibly removing it - seems to me like it'll insert itself in the TCP/IP stack (winsock?) or the LSP layers (??) and the unistalller will actually correct things when it's removed. Remove anything Norton / Symantec or McAfee first - that shit's not doing any good, and just slows things down. I usually uninstall each Norton / Symantec component through add remove programs - the manufacturer does have on their website a tool to remove all their software from your machine, but they recommend this only as a last resort (I guess you could run it after uninstalling everything manually, to get rid of the bits that the program uninstallers often miss, but I like to follow their advice in the first instance). If the PC is still slow then check disk-space, pagefile settings (allow the system to manage pagefile size for me, click set) and fragmentation (shortcut: Windows-R, type dfrg,msc). Install AVG anti-virus allow a complete run through, reboot then check for nasties in hi-jack this. Learning what to remove what to leave when using hi-jack this is a bit of an art-form, and is the most significant skill necessary for cleaning virus- or malware-infected PCs. The only time I use Linux to clean Windows is for files programs running at start up that I can't remove in hijack this. Windows occasionally locks files that are in use and other nasties can be quite persistent at reinstalling themselves. I simply note the full path of the files (or use Hijack This' save logfile facility) delete them (or their whole parent directory, if appropriate) when I've booted to Knoppix. If the machine's not bootable then repair with a Windows installation CD - sometimes manufacturers' partitioning schemes may make this impossible, but don't be tempted to use an Advent or Packard-Hell system restore CD or partition. This may get you to the point where you have to start following the procedure outlined in my previous 4 paragraphs. Be aware that sometimes Windows isn't cleanly fixable. Although I try to avoid it until I've exhausted avenues for a clean repair, sometimes the best thing to do is simply to back-up reinstall. Stroller. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gnome 2.22
I have tried to find it , but by the way how to enable gnome 2.22 in gentoo ?? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] touchpad can't scroll
On Friday 28 March 2008, Chuanwen Wu wrote: Hi, You should change your server-layout to something like Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen Screen1 InputDeviceKeyboard1 CoreKeyboard InputDeviceTouchpad CorePointer Option AIGLX true EndSection I have changed it, but after I restart X, I found it doesn't work, yet. This is what I have in mine under ServerLayout: === InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDeviceMouse1 AlwaysCore === And this is what I have under InputDevice: === Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver synaptics Option Protocol SynPS/2 Option InputFashion Mouse Option Device /dev/input/mice Option Name SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad Option SHMConfig on Option Vendor 0002 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Emulate3Buttons True Option Buttons 3 EndSection Section Input Device Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option InputFashion Mouse Option Device /dev/input/mice Option Name GenPS/2 Genius Mouse Option Vendor 0002 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Emulate3Buttons False Option Buttons 9 EndSection === So, you may want to replace your /dev/input/mouse1 for mice and see if that fixes things. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] portage/firewall
On Thursday 27 March 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:33:53 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: I'd say, try http. Jeez. You didn't read the original posting, did you? It's FTP, period. It's FTP, which is blocked by the firewall, so use only HTTP mirrors in /etc/make.conf. There is no requirement to use FTP for downloads. If rsync is also blocked, use emerge-webrsync to update the portage tree over HTTP. export ftp_proxy=XXX.XX.XXX.XX:80 emerge -uaDv world, should do what you're after. You can also try export http_proxy of course. It assumes that you know the LAN IP address of your web gateway/firewall at work - i.e. that your work's MSWindows configuration allows plain users to view the MSIE Internet Settings, or your sysadmin will let you know what the address is. If not, boot a LiveCD on a works computer, mount its MSWindows C:\ drive and search for proxy. It should lurk somewhere in the registry settings. BartsPE CD will also help you find that, as it can search natively the registry. BTW, if this is anything like my work, then only outbound connections to port 80 are allowed and rsync will not work. Follow the webrsync advice above. HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 2.22
2008/3/28, Stéphane ANCELOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have tried to find it , but by the way how to enable gnome 2.22 in gentoo ?? Gnome 2.22 is about to be added to the portage tree, be patient! Most components are already there! The meta ebuilds for gnome and gnome-light are still missing! Regards, Daniel
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 2.22
This One Time, at Band Camp, St?phane ANCELOT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said, On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:12:38AM +0100: I have tried to find it , but by the way how to enable gnome 2.22 in gentoo ?? You should unmask the Gnome2.22 packages, they are unmasked in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask, just put the below section in /etc/portage/package.unmask -CUT # GNOME 2.22 # # =app-crypt/seahorse-2.22 =gnome-base/libgtop-2.22 =x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.14 =gnome-base/libbonobo-2.22 =x11-libs/libwnck-2.22 =x11-themes/gnome-backgrounds-2.22 =gnome-base/gail-1.22 =app-text/rarian-0.8 =gnome-base/gnome-menus-2.22 =dev-python/pygtksourceview-2.2.0 =gnome-base/gconf-2.22 =x11-wm/metacity-2.22 =gnome-extra/gucharmap-2.22 =gnome-extra/gcalctool-5.22 =x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.22 =x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.22 =gnome-extra/zenity-2.22 =gnome-extra/at-spi-1.21 =gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.22 =gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.22 =x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.22 =gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.22 =gnome-base/libgnome-2.22 dev-libs/libgweather =app-editors/gedit-2.22 =gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.22 =gnome-base/libgnomekbd-2.21 =gnome-extra/gconf-editor-2.22 =media-sound/sound-juicer-2.22 =gnome-extra/yelp-2.22 =app-arch/file-roller-2.22 =dev-python/gnome-python-2.22 =gnome-extra/gtkhtml-3.18 =www-client/epiphany-2.22 =www-client/epiphany-extensions-2.22 =media-gfx/eog-2.22 =app-accessibility/orca-2.22 =gnome-base/librsvg-2.22 =gnome-extra/gnome-system-monitor-2.22 =gnome-base/gnome-keyring-2.22 =gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-2.22 =net-misc/vino-2.22 =app-text/evince-2.22 =gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.22 =gnome-extra/bug-buddy-2.22 =gnome-extra/evolution-webcal-2.21 =dev-python/gnome-python-desktop-2.22 =gnome-extra/gnome-games-2.22 =gnome-extra/deskbar-applet-2.22 =net-analyzer/gnome-nettool-2.22 =gnome-extra/fast-user-switch-applet-2.22 =app-admin/sabayon-2.21 =gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.22 =gnome-base/gnome-volume-manager-2.22 =mail-client/evolution-2.22 =gnome-extra/evolution-exchange-2.22 =gnome-extra/gnome-screensaver-2.22 =gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-2.22 dev-libs/totem-pl-parser =media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r2 =media-sound/rhythmbox-0.11.4 =media-video/totem-2.22 gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon =gnome-base/control-center-2.22 =gnome-base/gnome-session-2.22 =gnome-base/eel-2.22 gnome-base/gvfs =gnome-base/nautilus-2.22 =gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner-2.22 =gnome-extra/nautilus-open-terminal-0.9 =gnome-base/gdm-2.20.4 =gnome-extra/gnome-media-2.22 =gnome-base/gnome-light-2.22 =gnome-base/gnome-2.22 # Libsoup slot 2.4 =net-libs/libsoup-2.4.0 # GNOME 2.22 # # -CUT -- Wael Nasreddine http://wael.nasreddine.com PGP: 1024D/C8DD18A2 06F6 1622 4BC8 4CEB D724 DE12 5565 3945 C8DD 18A2 /o\ Buttercup: That stupid goody-goody Blossom never gets in trouble! pgppSY4rR210M.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Unplugging USB wireless adapter
Hello On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:43:58PM -0500, Dale wrote: I haven't kept up with this but isn't there a hotplug/coldplug monitor that detects things like this? I'm thinking hotplug is the correct one since the machine is powered up. I think it is no longer needed and udev should take care of all this. At last, I do not have hotplug nor coldplug and inserting/removing all usb devices, laptop modules, PCMCIAs works on runtime. -- Support your right to arm bears!! Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpWHbsjcLaHP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?
Hello On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 09:11:53AM +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Anybody ever do it and can tell me how long a shutdown takes? As long as you need to strike the keys. Not really true. I have set my dirty cache timeout to 10 minutes, so it can hold some few hundred megabytes of unsynced data (happens rarely), so it can take like 10 seconds to dump them to disk. But with clean cache, it is as fast as hitting a hard switch. -- Hallowed be the zeroes and ones Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpfCKbpetqm3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:51:20 +0100, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: By the way the safest and recommended command, although a bit longish should be ALT+SysRq(or print)+S(ync)+U(mount)+B(Reboot). Alt-SysRq E I S U B is better as it kills running processes first. If you have time, pause between the keystrokes to give them time to work. Cl. I'll try to grow a pair and test this thing sometime. This sounds like it would be pretty fast. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problem with 2 partition installation from gentoo minimal system
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 16:19:58 Alex Schuster wrote: Does it also have the right IDE drivers? This /dev/sda drive is SATA I assume, is this configured correctly in the kernel, and is the SCSI stuff also compiled directly into the kerne? On my laptop I sometimes have to switch AHCI on or off in the BIOS as well. For example, the Gentoo installation boot disk won't boot unless I switch AHCI off first. -- Rgds Peter -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unplugging USB wireless adapter
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:09:08 +0100, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: I think it is no longer needed and udev should take care of all this. At last, I do not have hotplug nor coldplug and inserting/removing all usb devices, laptop modules, PCMCIAs works on runtime. That's fine with most devices, but causes a problem with network adaptors. No hotplug system can anticipate your removing the device and unmount NFS shares before you do it, so the only safe way to remove a USB NIC is to bring down the interface first. -- Neil Bothwick I used to have a handle on life, then it broke. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 2.22
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Wael Nasreddine wrote: This One Time, at Band Camp, St?phane ANCELOT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said, On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:12:38AM +0100: I have tried to find it , but by the way how to enable gnome 2.22 in gentoo ?? You should unmask the Gnome2.22 packages, they are unmasked in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask, just put the below section in /etc/portage/package.unmask Note that you can also make package.unmask a directory, containing several different files (e.g. one for every piece of software you need to unmask packages for, like gnome-2.22 or something), for ease of maintenance. Regards, Christophe L. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OOo 2.4 and Java
=== On Friday 28 March 2008, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: === Hi! Have installed OOo 2.4 on ~amd64/x86_64 with these flags: cups dbus eds firefox java kde ldap pam -binfilter -debug ... At starting any OOo programm konsole shows: javaldx failed! Tool-Options-Java dialog finds all three installed JREs, but after selecting radio control for any of them and clicking OK nothing changes. Next time the dialog finds JREs again (nothing checked at dialog opening). Help! Have file the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87549 Probably somebody has non-Gentoo Linux system also. Does the issue take place on other distributions or is it Gentoo-specific? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unplugging USB wireless adapter
Hello On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:42:18AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:09:08 +0100, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: I think it is no longer needed and udev should take care of all this. At last, I do not have hotplug nor coldplug and inserting/removing all usb devices, laptop modules, PCMCIAs works on runtime. That's fine with most devices, but causes a problem with network adaptors. No hotplug system can anticipate your removing the device and unmount NFS shares before you do it, so the only safe way to remove a USB NIC is to bring down the interface first. Yes, sure. It can't unmount it and terminate the connections. However, there is no reason why the device shouldn't be detected again. And, if hotplug can do it, why couldn't udev? I was just saying hotplug is outdated and replaced by udev. -- This email was generated by a biological random generator. If you want more random text, just respond to this email. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp5TXAVJkffm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot Gentoo to clean windows
On 28/03/2008, 7v5w7go9ub0o [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Florian Philipp wrote: snip FWIW, AntiVir, Bitdefender, and F-Prot run quite well on Linux, and each has BOTH Linux and Windows Trojan and virus signatures. So you can install these and scan your windows box, and then scan your Linux box/downloads for malware (e.g. openoffice files, media files, etc.). Add Dazuko, and you can get real-time scanning of your Linux box while downloading/compiling software. This is getting OT but I still want to ask: Is it really necessary to run an anti-virus on linux? I just want to hear some opinions on that topic because I thought security fixes for your software are the way to go for fighting virae on linux. Anti-Virus on Linux. No. (presuming that you don't run as root, and have lots of unprivileged users for individual applications.) Anti-Malware on Linux. Yes. (Malware gets to the box via spoofed or hacked software distribution or creation sites; bad links or poisoned DNS caches; or via (e.g.) browser memory attacks - at plugins or exploits) The oldtimers will tell you that safe hex and perhaps integrity monitoring (e.g. Samhain or tripwire) are all that's needed. But desktop Linux with Browsing, IM, etc. is changing that, IMHO. The three packages above have Linux Trojan and Rootkit signatures, as well as Windows malware sigs. Easy enough to run an occasional scan of the Linux box (or Windows partition); and to scan each Linux download before reading, compiling, or passing on. (Dazuko additionally allows realtime scans of compilation read/writes). IMHO, Linux and MAC are the next frontier for malware, and -SADLY- AntiMalware signature and heuristic techniques are one thing we can learn about from Windows :-( http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20080327/tc_pcworld/143901 What worries me is the reference to Safari . . . (khtml rendering engine?) What is an appropriate anti-malware for Linux, other than safe-hex? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unplugging USB wireless adapter
I think it is no longer needed and udev should take care of all this. At last, I do not have hotplug nor coldplug and inserting/removing all usb devices, laptop modules, PCMCIAs works on runtime. That's fine with most devices, but causes a problem with network adaptors. No hotplug system can anticipate your removing the device and unmount NFS shares before you do it, so the only safe way to remove a USB NIC is to bring down the interface first. Here's the problem. I have an Edimax and a Linksys USB adapter. They both use the rt73usb driver in 2.6.24. I can stop the interface and successfully switch from Edimax to Linksys, but trying to go from Linksys to Edimax says the hardware is not present when trying to start the interface again. Rebooting fixes it. Can anyone make sense of that? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Boot Gentoo to clean windows
Mick wrote: On 28/03/2008, 7v5w7go9ub0o [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anti-Virus on Linux. No. (presuming that you don't run as root, and have lots of unprivileged users for individual applications.) Anti-Malware on Linux. Yes. (Malware gets to the box via spoofed or hacked software distribution or creation sites; bad links or poisoned DNS caches; or via (e.g.) browser memory attacks - at plugins or exploits) The oldtimers will tell you that safe hex and perhaps integrity monitoring (e.g. Samhain or tripwire) are all that's needed. But desktop Linux with Browsing, IM, etc. is changing that, IMHO. The three packages above have Linux Trojan and Rootkit signatures, as well as Windows malware sigs. Easy enough to run an occasional scan of the Linux box (or Windows partition); and to scan each Linux download before reading, compiling, or passing on. (Dazuko additionally allows realtime scans of compilation read/writes). IMHO, Linux and MAC are the next frontier for malware, and -SADLY- AntiMalware signature and heuristic techniques are one thing we can learn about from Windows :-( http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20080327/tc_pcworld/143901 What worries me is the reference to Safari . . . (khtml rendering engine?) What is an appropriate anti-malware for Linux, other than safe-hex? As a monitor (a.k.a. real-time access), I've had good experience with AntiVir and Dazuko. AntiVir has lots of Linux signatures and heuristics, and Dazuko/Antivir has both caught bugs in downloads, and blocked suspicious scripts in my browser cache when visiting bad sites. As a scanner, I tend to scan my box from a second maintenance OS on another partition hoping to avoid stealthing by any RootKits on the primary partition. Scanning includes Samhain, equery md5 checks, the three Anti-Malware products mentioned earlier, Rootkithunter, and Checkrootkit. I'll run this occasionally overnight. Interesting that this year's exploit was a safe browser Safari, on a safe 'nix/BSD OS MAC. And last year's exploit winner, QuickTime, can also appear on multiple OS's. Both of these were likely online attacks; via streaming in the case of quicktime. Seems to me that WAN-connected applications should be sequestered from the rest of the system in the same way that a server sequesters WAN-connected processes - i.e. put them each in their own chroot jail. In addition to individual chroot jails, I run my mail client and browser in RamDisk - so that any changes to them (other than bookmarks and mail) are discarded at shutdown Using Hardened Sources (GRSecurity) with both memory protection and access control, one gets a particularly resilient, hardened chroot jail (i.e. OpenBSD theory :-) ) and a kernel that restricts where the browser user/application can go, and what it can do. hth -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 2.22
quoth the Stéphane ANCELOT: I have tried to find it , but by the way how to enable gnome 2.22 in gentoo ?? http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/remi/2008/03/28/the_road_to_gnome_2_22_part_2 -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Boot Gentoo to clean windows
Stroller wrote: snip important, informative stuff Be aware that sometimes Windows isn't cleanly fixable. Although I try to avoid it until I've exhausted avenues for a clean repair, sometimes the best thing to do is simply to back-up reinstall. Think this is a great write up. The last paragraph seems most important - given today's professionally-authored compromises, the best thing to do may be presume that you've been rooted with redundancy, and simply be prepared to quickly rebuild the box from scratch. Especially if you use the computer for business or other sensitive matters. So arguably, one should use the second OS (Linux or Windows) as a diagnostic tool to determine if it's compromised or not, and except for something simple (e.g. an infection vector caught before activation by an AntiTrojan scanner in a browser cache, mail letter, etc.), one should simply rebuild the box. So to the above, I'd add a have a rebuild strategy i.e. copies of data (not executables), addresses, passwords, etc. that can be quickly returned to a rebuilt OS. Windows benefits greatly from rebuilding - a rebuilt box will seem quicker and faster than ever before, and won't have lingering relics from earlier maintenance levels. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 20:42 -0400, Richard Marzan wrote:
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 19:52 -0700, Grant wrote:
I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about
150
feet and has to go through about 5 walls. I bought two of
these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble
making it
work well. I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a
short
time, but then disappear. When watching iwconfig during this
process,
it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but
when it
goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.
Should limiting the rate solve this problem? If so, how can I
do
that? I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the
client.
- Grant
Grant,
Yes, lowering the rate to a slower speed will help greatly.
The lower
rates use less compression and modulation... less complex wave
forms
better connects over long hauls.
The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and
whole
heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck
with these
models: ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at:
http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain
antennas you
have, will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty
high on the
speed scale doing it too.
I'm using a Netgear PCI adapter on the AP and an Edimax USB adapter
on
the client. Do you know how I can limit the rate? Should it be
done
on the Gentoo AP or the client?
- Grant
I use wireless-tools from portage. In it is iwconfig. A simple man
iwconfig
will show you what you need. Other thing you could do is configure the
Wireless AP for a fixed rate... works for me.
I found this:
rate_wlan0=( 5.5M )
which isn't documented in net.wireless, but it doesn't seem to have
any affect. I've tried it on the router and the client which uses
wpa_supplicant. I still see the rate on the client fluctuate all the
way up to 54 Mb/s in the output from iwconfig. The router's rate is
always reported as 0 kb/s.
- Grant
It appears 'iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M' works (at least as far as the
output from iwconfig is concerned) but how can I set /etc/conf.d/net
to always use this rate?
- Grant
The best way I found to do this is to just write your own script and run
it at the default runlevel. write a script called wireless-up save it in
your /root directory. Then in /etc/conf.d/local.start add the script
name to the list: /root/wireless-up. Make sure the script is executable
with chmod 666 /root/wireless-up. Here is what mine looks like. I laugh
when I read this thing that I call a script. I'll be upgrading this in
the future but for now maybe someone has a better idea and/or script.
#!/bin/bash
DATE=`date +%m_%d_%Y`
ifconfig wlan0 up || echo wlan up failed
iwconfig wlan0 essid ACCESSPOINTNAME || echo setting essid failed
iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed || echo setting mode to managed failed
iwconfig wlan0 key restricted YOURKEYHERE || echo key failed
verification
dhclient wlan0 || echo wlan0 failed to receive dhcp request response
# if [ $DATE -ne `date +%m_%d_%Y -r /tmp/.wireless.*
rm /tmp/.wireless.*
iwconfig /tmp/.wireless.$DATE
exit 0
For custom scrips, you can add a preup, failup or postup-function
to /etc/conf.d/net, there should be examples in the file.
Something like
pastup() {
if [[ ${IFACE} = wlan0 ]]; then
iwconfig [...]
fi
return 0
}
should work.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 19:02 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
For custom scrips, you can add a preup, failup or postup-function
to /etc/conf.d/net, there should be examples in the file.
Something like
pastup() {
if [[ ${IFACE} = wlan0 ]]; then
iwconfig [...]
fi
return 0
}
should work.
postup(), not pastup()
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot Gentoo to clean windows
On Friday 28 March 2008, 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote: IMHO, Linux and MAC are the next frontier for malware, and -SADLY- AntiMalware signature and heuristic techniques are one thing we can learn about from Windows :-( True, but with one *huge* difference: If something like ActiveX were to be unleashed on Linux, it will be fixed very quickly even if that requires an ABI change. We tend not to pull the backwards compatibility card, so obvious holes from that don't hang around for long -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Boot Gentoo to clean windows
On Friday 28 March 2008, Stroller wrote: I deal with h0sed Windows installations for my customers all the time. I regularly boot a Knoppix CD and copy the whole C: drive to a portable disk so that I have a complete backup. I find it reassuring to use Linux for this purpose because I feel confident that cp or rsync will copy _every file on the drive_ without just silently ignoring those marked with the hidden flag, or bitching about permissions. I prefer to save the entire partition with PING (Partimage Is Not Ghost) or equivalent tools to avoid gotchas with charsets. rsync and cp are excellent, but you have to mount the partition with the right options not to loose coherence in file naming. Everything else in your post is no more no less what I do to rescue all those boxes people bring to me :-) Starting from the uninstall of bloated antivirus! Great post Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.24-gentoo-r3, Compiled #1 PREEMPT Thu Feb 28 22:23:31 CET 2008 One 2.2GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 4408.81 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: rhythmbox plays silently
Michael Schmarck wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, onto your actual problem. It is exceptionally hard to even attempt to provide a solution unless someone else fixed the exact same problem before, as you have not provided any configuration at all and very little useful information. What would you have wanted to see? I wrote that sound works. You don't need more information. Hence your post was as much noise as mine was. That's why other people, or at least Andrey, was able to help, where as you were just a moron. Not to dig up this unpleasantness again, but there are some things I'd like to point out for future reference (for all people, including me, who will post questions with hopes of getting useful answers.) Nonetheless I shall try, so please provide the following: How nice from you, now that the problem has been solved. Yes, I'm aware that this particular problem has been solved, however I'd still like to highlight a few things about it. 1. the output of lspci as it relates to audio so we can see what hardware you have Why should that matter? After all, sound playback works (in other programs). It doesn't matter, but it's information people care about. It helps us to do our voodoo stuff and get back to you with an answer (it's quantity over quality at this point of the answering stage.) 2. What engine does rhythmbox use? gstreamer? If so, do other gstreamer apps work correctly on your box? That was the million dollar question. Great, and now you've noticed that Totem, another GStreamer program, isn't outputting sound. Therefore, instead of just blowing off the previous poster, you could actually include that information. 3. With what options did you compile rhythmbox and gstreamer (if applicable)? Does not matter. Actually, it does. Contrary to your belief that programs have the ability to read your mind and compile with all the flags they need to function in every foreseeable way, real world applications need flags. Posting them with your question allows for the quantity of answers to go down, while the quality of the remaining ones to improve greatly. Knowing from the beginning that you compiled GStreamer with -oss but not alsa would've helped greatly. 4. Lastly, this is out on left field, please confirm that rhythmbox is indeed using alsa and not oss Question 2 covers that. No, it doesn't. You just deferred your answer instead of actually confirming that the rhythmbox *engine* used either ALSA or OSS. Michael Not trying to start a flame war between anywhere here, but I'm just trying to make a point. Posting information, no matter how useless it may seem to you, helps us help you. For example, Hey group! My mplayer doesn't play sound! I get some generic error about the sound card not being available... Now, there are so many answers to that, and you will be frustrated because people will start touting their favourite software with things like, Mplayer sucks, use Songbird Songbird sucks, it's bloated, use Rhythmbox! Rhythmbox is buggy, use Amarok! Amarok is KDE based, I hate KDE and everything that's based on it, Gnome rules! Then the slightly more useful questions start, Well, was mplayer compiled with the alsa USE flag? Do other applications play sound? Etc, etc. However, if you'd posted the original error along with your system information, we forgo all the unpleasant favouritism and instead, get strained answers that will actually help you solve the problem, keeping all parties [hopefully] happy! Hey group! My mplayer doesn't play sound? Here's my USE flags:xft xcomposite threads dbus libfreetype freetype firefox xulrunner dvdread lfreetype ftgl gtk X glx usb mplayer a52 hwac3 ac3 ldap GPAC gpac x264 mp4 mp3 mad madplay libmp3 ogg flac alsa oss png jpg jpeg selinux hal ffmpeg encode vorbis chroot opengl mysql tiff gnome kde 3dnow 3dnowext aac encode gif ftp mp2 v4l v4l2 httpd sdl sdl-image xvid xv cvidix -rdynamic -zlib Here's the output of 'mplayer awesomemusic.mp3' MPlayer dev-SVN-rUNKNOWN-4.1.2 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (Family: 15, Model: 43, Stepping: 1) CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 3DNow 3DNowEx SSE SSE2 Playing Justin Timberlake - What Goes Around.mp3. Audio file file format detected. Clip info: Title: The awesomeness! Artist: Awesome band! Album: AWESOME! Year: 2008 Comment: Track: Genre: == Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3 AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 192.0 kbit/13.61% (ratio: 24000-176400) Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3) == [AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot Gentoo to clean windows
On 28/03/2008, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your note is excellent but I disagree with this bit:- If the PC is still slow then check disk-space, pagefile settings (allow the system to manage pagefile size for me, click set) unless as a temporary workaround you should always have the paging file set as a fixed size to avoid worsening the chronic fragmentation problem on Windows. Regards Alan
