[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted backups under Gentoo
- If your local backup becomes corrupt, then so does your remote backup, except if you are quick enough to disable the rsync step. That's why I use rdiff-backup. Yes, me too, but *inside* the encrypted container. - If you have disconnection during the rsync step (happened to me last night), your remote backup is temporarily corrupted. Shouldn't rsync do this on its own? There is an option --inplace described with: This causes rsync not to create a new copy of the file and then move it into place. Instead rsync will overwrite the existing file, meaning that the rsync algorithm can't accomplish the full amount of network reduction it might be able to otherwise (since it does not yet try to sort data matches). One exception to this is if you combine the option with --backup, since rsync is smart enough to use the backup file as the basis file for the transfer. This option is useful for transfer of large files with block-based changes or appended data, and also on systems that are disk bound, not network bound. The option implies --partial (since an interrupted transfer does not delete the file), but conflicts with --partial-dir and --delay-updates. Prior to rsync 2.6.4 --inplace was also incompatible with --compare-dest and --link-dest. WARNING: The file's data will be in an inconsistent state during the transfer (and possibly afterward if the transfer gets interrupted), so ^^^ you should not use this option to update files that are in use. Also note that rsync will be unable to update a file in-place that is not writable by the receiving user. Yes, I use --inplace, but it will still leave the remote backup inconsistent in case of an interrupted transfer. And not using it is not an option for a 25GB file (and paying for capacity on the receiving end). -- Remy signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted backups under Gentoo
Neil Bothwick wrote: - If your local backup becomes corrupt, then so does your remote backup, except if you are quick enough to disable the rsync step. That's a potential problem with any form of backup, local or remote. The truly paranoid would use two different backup methods on two physically separate destinations. Well, it's not quite the same. In the 2-step case (local backup, e.g. using rdiff-backup, followed by an rsync of the backup to a remote location), if your local backup gets corrupted, then so does your remote one. If you just do two independent backups, even with the same method, one locally and the second remotely, if one gets corrupted, chances are the other one is still ok. - If you have disconnection during the rsync step (happened to me last night), your remote backup is temporarily corrupted. That should be fixable by having the script that runs rsync check the return value and try again if it fails. You're right, of course. I would still be more comfortable keeping the window of vulnerability (the time for which the remote file is inconsistent) as small as possible, and independent of network connectivity. That's why I was thinking in the lines of calculate diff, send diff and store remotely, update remote copy when connection has closed. -- Remy signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] KDE slow shutdown
Hi All, I have noticed that a box running pretty much vanilla KDE is taking an awful long time to exit the KDE session when I shutdown. Couldn't find anything in the logs. How could I troubleshoot it? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] module in use - by who?
In general, is there an easy way to determine what is using a module? For instance, if I do lsmod and see that a module is in use by one process, how do I tell which process that might be? Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gpgsm is giving me a headache
Hi All, I am trying to import an SSL certificate into gpgsm/kleopatra and I cannot seem to be able to make it work: 1. Trying the CLI gives me: = $ gpgsm --import /media/sda/Personal/OpenSSL/Comodo/michael_email_comodo_080419.p12 gpgsm: gpgsm: GPG_TTY has not been set - using maybe bogus default gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: 1224 bytes of 3DES encrypted text gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-1' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-15' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-2' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-3' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-4' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-5' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-6' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-7' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-8' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-9' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `KOI8-R' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `IBM437' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `IBM850' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `EUC-JP' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `BIG5' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: data error at decrypted-text, offset 2951359603 gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: error at bag-sequence, offset 15 gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: error parsing or decrypting the PKCS-12 file gpgsm: error running `/usr/libexec/gpg-protect-tool': exit status 2 gpgsm: total number processed: 0 secmem usage: 0/16384 bytes in 0 blocks = If I import/export the cert from Firefox, then I can import it in Konqueror. However, when I try to import it in Kleopatra it fails after I enter my cert passphrase. I managed to import the cert in Kleopatra without the private key. As you understand that's no good for me because I cannot sign emails with it (it doesn't show up on the list of certs). Any ideas how I could make this work? I can't recall having such problems with the CACert.org certificates (or if I did I can't recall what's the fix!). -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gpgsm is giving me a headache
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Mick wrote: Hi All, I am trying to import an SSL certificate into gpgsm/kleopatra and I cannot seem to be able to make it work: 1. Trying the CLI gives me: = $ gpgsm --import /media/sda/Personal/OpenSSL/Comodo/michael_email_comodo_080419.p12 gpgsm: gpgsm: GPG_TTY has not been set - using maybe bogus default gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: 1224 bytes of 3DES encrypted text gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-1' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-15' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-2' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-3' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-4' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-5' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-6' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-7' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-8' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `ISO-8859-9' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `KOI8-R' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `IBM437' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `IBM850' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `EUC-JP' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: decryption failed; trying charset `BIG5' gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: password too long gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: data error at decrypted-text, offset 2951359603 gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: error at bag-sequence, offset 15 gpgsm: gpg-protect-tool: error parsing or decrypting the PKCS-12 file gpgsm: error running `/usr/libexec/gpg-protect-tool': exit status 2 gpgsm: total number processed: 0 secmem usage: 0/16384 bytes in 0 blocks = If I import/export the cert from Firefox, then I can import it in Konqueror. However, when I try to import it in Kleopatra it fails after I enter my cert passphrase. I managed to import the cert in Kleopatra without the private key. As you understand that's no good for me because I cannot sign emails with it (it doesn't show up on the list of certs). Any ideas how I could make this work? I can't recall having such problems with the CACert.org certificates (or if I did I can't recall what's the fix!). There seem to be two problems with gpgsm, probably bugs - or perhaps design limitations? 1. gpgsm cannot import the complete pkcs12 bundle. This needs to be broken down and imported separately as the public key (cert) and the private key. Whether this compromises safety (having an unencrypted private key on your drive) is a moot point, but makes me think that GnuPG is a much better solution than SSL certs for emails at least. 2. Long passphrases seem to generate the above error. So, if you come across the same error try generating your key with a smaller passpphrase, or edit it with openssl pkcs options. HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE slow shutdown
On Samstag, 19. April 2008, Mick wrote: Hi All, I have noticed that a box running pretty much vanilla KDE is taking an awful long time to exit the KDE session when I shutdown. Couldn't find anything in the logs. How could I troubleshoot it? lsof grep can tell you which files are accessed. Maybe it takes a looong time writing to kdm.log (something that sometimes make my shutdowns extremely slow). -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Need simple smtp sendmail
On 2008-04-18, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been three years since I last set up mail on my workstation which I'm replacing after a motherboard failure. One of the pieces I'm missing is what do I need to allow processes like portage and mdadm send notification messages to my email account. IIRC, I had something that just forwarded smtp mail to my public account. mail-mta/ssmtp, which is generally installed by default. Or, if you need to support multiple e-mail accounts: mail-mta/msmtp. It's just as simple to set up as ssmtp, but allows per-user configuration, and each user can configure multiple accounts. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I'd like MY data-base at JULIENNED and stir-fried! visi.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE slow shutdown
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Samstag, 19. April 2008, Mick wrote: Hi All, I have noticed that a box running pretty much vanilla KDE is taking an awful long time to exit the KDE session when I shutdown. Couldn't find anything in the logs. How could I troubleshoot it? lsof grep can tell you which files are accessed. Maybe it takes a looong time writing to kdm.log (something that sometimes make my shutdowns extremely slow). Thanks Volker, How do you mean I need to run lsof? Use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to a console quickly while KDE is shutting down and run it from there, or run something in the background? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE slow shutdown
On Samstag, 19. April 2008, Mick wrote: On Saturday 19 April 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Samstag, 19. April 2008, Mick wrote: Hi All, I have noticed that a box running pretty much vanilla KDE is taking an awful long time to exit the KDE session when I shutdown. Couldn't find anything in the logs. How could I troubleshoot it? lsof grep can tell you which files are accessed. Maybe it takes a looong time writing to kdm.log (something that sometimes make my shutdowns extremely slow). Thanks Volker, How do you mean I need to run lsof? Use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to a console quickly while KDE is shutting down and run it from there, exactly - and you do have to do it as root ;) lsof shows the open files. In my case, when shutting down hangs for ages it is always shutdown accessing kdm.log. But that is only my problem - your problem might me be something completly different. Are you saving sessions? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE slow shutdown
Quoting Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All, I have noticed that a box running pretty much vanilla KDE is taking an awful long time to exit the KDE session when I shutdown. Couldn't find anything in If you use Kopete, check if you have statistics plugin enabled. If so, disable it. HTH, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?
I have a little Mac Mini - my first attempt at Gentoo on a PowerPC - that I brought up this week. It was (is) working but I'm not using it for anything yet. Just playing around with the machine. Nothing serious. This morning I wasn't paying much attention and wanted to do an emerge -DuN world. The process had blocking issues: MacMini ~ # emerge -pv coreutils These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] sys-devel/automake-1.10.1 [1.10] 897 kB [ebuild U ] sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1 [6.9-r1] USE=acl nls (-selinux) -static -vanilla% -xattr 3,670 kB [blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1) [blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10 (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5) Total: 2 packages (2 upgrades, 2 blocks), Size of downloads: 4,566 kB so without any real thought I did an emerge -C coreutils and walked away. Well, that, it seems, was a *very* bad idea. Now nothing much works. There were some messages that had I been watching I would have stopped the process but I wasn't so there you go. Oops. Anyway, the machine is still up and running but I suspect that it might not reboot or allow logins if it did reboot. I'm unable to emerge anything right now. coreutils, as folks probably know, includes stuff that once gone pretty much stops the machine from being interesting or useful. Question: Is there a way to recover from this? It's not a huge issue even if I have to completely rebuild the machine. As I say this was mostly a Gentoo build on a lark to test out how the machine might work for a couple of different ideas - mythfrontend and a simple router. Everything was quick and dirty and there are a few things I might change anyway, but if I can get it working again I figure I should learn how. Thanks in advance, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Need simple smtp sendmail
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-04-18, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mail-mta/ssmtp, which is generally installed by default. Or, if you need to support multiple e-mail accounts: mail-mta/msmtp. Thank you! The key was knowing it was ssmtp that I needed to configure. I then found: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-420358.html which added the AuthUser and AuthPass config options I was missing. Have fun, Roy -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?
On 11:27 Sat 19 Apr , Mark Knecht wrote: Question: Is there a way to recover from this? Try going into a LiveCD and either copy the coreutils from a stage, or try re-emerging it there. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?
On Saturday 19 April 2008, forgottenwizard wrote: On 11:27 Sat 19 Apr , Mark Knecht wrote: Question: Is there a way to recover from this? Try going into a LiveCD and either copy the coreutils from a stage, or try re-emerging it there. Of course if you want more detail check previous posts on this very topic: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/197609 -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE slow shutdown
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Samstag, 19. April 2008, Mick wrote: How do you mean I need to run lsof? Use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to a console quickly while KDE is shutting down and run it from there, exactly - and you do have to do it as root ;) lsof shows the open files. In my case, when shutting down hangs for ages it is always shutdown accessing kdm.log. But that is only my problem - your problem might me be something completly different. Are you saving sessions? Hmm, I suspect I may do. This is my wife's machine which I rarely use and am not sure (plus I'm not particularly KDE-literate I'm afraid). How do I check? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: [ebuild U ] sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1 [6.9-r1] USE=acl nls (-selinux) -static -vanilla% -xattr 3,670 kB [blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1) [blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10 (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5) You are just another victim, search this list for the last week posts for the recovery details. Basically you have to use install disc to copy all the core utils now missing. Once recovered you are again able to emerge coreutils The explanation of the message above is: coreutils is going to upgrade from version 6.9-r1 to 6.10-r1, the latter (and other versions above) includes mktemp, so to avoid conflicts it is required to uninstall mktemp, now provided elsewhere. HTH Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.24-gentoo-r4, Compiled #2 PREEMPT Wed Apr 2 08:07:24 CEST 2008 One 1GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 2004.03 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?
Why are you doing things without knowing about the consequences? Always ask before you are doing things which could be stupid!!! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Francesco Talamona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 19 April 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: [ebuild U ] sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1 [6.9-r1] USE=acl nls (-selinux) -static -vanilla% -xattr 3,670 kB [blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1) [blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10 (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5) You are just another victim, search this list for the last week posts for the recovery details. Basically you have to use install disc to copy all the core utils now missing. Once recovered you are again able to emerge coreutils The explanation of the message above is: coreutils is going to upgrade from version 6.9-r1 to 6.10-r1, the latter (and other versions above) includes mktemp, so to avoid conflicts it is required to uninstall mktemp, now provided elsewhere. HTH Francesco And unfortunately I chose to uninstall coreutils rather than mktemp which caused the problems. Thanks. It doesn't seem the link to the Walter Dnes doesn't give the answer but suggests like you do that there is an answer out there. I'll see if I can find the instructions on how to copy the correct stuff. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] init 1, root device is busy :(
Hello Gentoo users, I just can't fsck my root device because my Gentoo system don't allow me to remount it as readonly (mount -o ro,remount /dev/hda1). A rw-mounted device is unsafe to be fsck -ed. (AFAIK). When I go to tty1, login as root, do these: killall kdm, then init 1. It goes to runlevel 1 (maintenance level). But I don't have to type my root password in the end (on other distros I had to). I can unmount my /boot and /home partitions but I just can't remount my root device to be readonly. (Linux says it is busy.) What should I do with this? 1.) Should I edit my Grub menu.lst to make a new entry with single ro kernel parameteres? 2.) Of course I can fsck from (for example) a LiveCD (like Gentoo minimal cd), but at the present I don't have any of these. 3.) Other solution? Thanks in advance! pm.: I just love my Gentoo system :) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] init 1, root device is busy :(
Hello On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 09:18:04PM +0200, Gyuszk wrote: 3.) Other solution? man shutdown: -F Force fsck on reboot. (I know, this one is not really intuitive) -- Work with computer has 2 phases. First, computer waits for the user to tell it what to do, then the user waits for the computer to do it. Therefore, computer work consists mostly of waiting. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp3rfgp9Z9ty.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: init 1, root device is busy :(
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Gyuszk wrote: I can unmount my /boot and /home partitions but I just can't remount my root device to be readonly. (Linux says it is busy.) What should I do with this? 1.) Should I edit my Grub menu.lst to make a new entry with single ro kernel parameteres? 2.) Of course I can fsck from (for example) a LiveCD (like Gentoo minimal cd), but at the present I don't have any of these. 3.) Other solution? Of course: it's in use :-) Two options: 1) force partition check with the following command (seen recently in this list) shutdown -Fr 2) create the file /forcefsck touch /forcefsck then reboot, during shutdown you'll see A full fsck will be forced on next startup and then Checking root filesystem (full fsck forced) See the scripts /etc/init.d/halt.sh, /etc/init.d/checkfs and /etc/init.d/checkroot to see all the nuts and bolts Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.24-gentoo-r4, Compiled #2 PREEMPT Wed Apr 2 08:07:24 CEST 2008 One 1GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 2004.03 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Raid5 not assembled after boot
Howdy, This is the first time I've played with a software raid and it looks like I'm missing a part. The raid5 consists of three AHCI 1TB drives (sdb1,sdc1,sdd1) assembled as /dev/md1 and formatted ext3. The raid is just a data drive mounted on /var/media. Here's the array line from /etc/mdadm.conf: ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid5 num-devices=3 UUID=32d159bf:9c7d988b:1caf26c5:a35f83fb After boot, /dev/md1 does not exist. I can run: mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 which starts /dev/md1 then I can mount the raid fine. I've tried adding: DEVICE /dev/sd[bcd]1 to /etc/mdadm.conf, no observable effect. /etc/init.d/mdadm is in the boot rc level and is running after boot (I was expecting this to start the array). Looking thru dmesg and /var/log/messages, it looks like there are no attempts to start the array until I manually try. Any hints on what I'm missing? TIA, Roy -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?
Am Samstag, den 19.04.2008, 21:08 +0200 schrieb Mark Knecht: It doesn't seem the link to the Walter Dnes doesn't give the answer but suggests like you do that there is an answer out there. No. It's the Crippled system thread. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: init 1, root device is busy :(
Francesco Talamona wrote: On Saturday 19 April 2008, Gyuszk wrote: I can unmount my /boot and /home partitions but I just can't remount my root device to be readonly. (Linux says it is busy.) What should I do with this? 1.) Should I edit my Grub menu.lst to make a new entry with single ro kernel parameteres? 2.) Of course I can fsck from (for example) a LiveCD (like Gentoo minimal cd), but at the present I don't have any of these. 3.) Other solution? Of course: it's in use :-) Two options: 1) force partition check with the following command (seen recently in this list) shutdown -Fr 2) create the file /forcefsck touch /forcefsck then reboot, during shutdown you'll see A full fsck will be forced on next startup and then Checking root filesystem (full fsck forced) See the scripts /etc/init.d/halt.sh, /etc/init.d/checkfs and /etc/init.d/checkroot to see all the nuts and bolts Ciao Francesco Thanks a lot! I'll give a deep look at the mentioned files. Anyway I think I'll set my fstab. Now all my partitions are set to never fsck at boot time. :) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] init 1, root device is busy :(
Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: Hello On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 09:18:04PM +0200, Gyuszk wrote: 3.) Other solution? man shutdown: -F Force fsck on reboot. (I know, this one is not really intuitive) Thanks! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Justin wrote: Why are you doing things without knowing about the consequences? Always ask before you are doing things which could be stupid!!! Hindsight is a wonderful thing - but pretty useless in its timing. I don't know about the OP, but I usually discover that I did something stupid after the event . . . ;-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?
Justin wrote: Why are you doing things without knowing about the consequences? Always ask before you are doing things which could be stupid!!! I think you're being a little harsh. :-) Usually, unmerging a package that is blocking another package has, in my limited experience, always solved the problem. I probably would have fallen victim to this had I not been reading the problems that others have had. No matter, my intention is not to start a war and this is too late for the people that have already caused themselves grief by removing coreutils. However, once I read the problems that others have encountered when they did this, I searched the forums. A post from earlier this year saved my butt! This is the command that was suggested and worked fine for me: emerge -C mktemp emerge -uavDNt world Hopefully, it will help others who have not yet become Gentoo gurus. Regards, Colleen. -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Justin wrote: Why are you doing things without knowing about the consequences? Always ask before you are doing things which could be stupid!!! You know, shit happens. It shouldn't but it does. Like you aren't really paying attention being sidetracked, and the shit hits the fan. Happens.To all of us. Unless you are one of those who never make mistakes, never get sidetracked, never pay less than 100% attention, never assume where you are actually supposed to know,... The list goes on. The OP had a knee jerk reaction, did what had seemed insane on second thougt but didn't spent such. It happens. He actually axplained how it happened. That's human. Did you never make dire mistakes? Well, if you haven't you may keep throwing stones in a glasshouse. For the OP: There was a long thread about this just last week. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Compiz-Fusion display error?
I upgraded my KDE 3.5.9 laptop to use compiz-fusion. It works! But i have a display problem... My laptop lcd is 1280x800 native. KDE, without compiz, uses theentire display, no problems... However, once I start up compiz, I loose the right third of the screen. That is, the display get chopped off to something close to 800X800... It really sucks. Although I loose some screen display realestate, the compiz additions all work. Anyone have a tip to get this sorted out? I'd appreciate any help offered. -- From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: init 1, root device is busy :(
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Thanks a lot! I'll give a deep look at the mentioned files. Anyway I think I'll set my fstab. Now all my partitions are set to never fsck at boot time. :) Supposing it's a ext2/3 partition you may also want to use tune2fs to set the check *frequency*. Other filesystems have specialized tools to do it. Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.24-gentoo-r4, Compiled #2 PREEMPT Wed Apr 2 08:07:24 CEST 2008 One 1GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 2004.03 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?
Uwe Thiem wrote: On Saturday 19 April 2008, Justin wrote: Why are you doing things without knowing about the consequences? Always ask before you are doing things which could be stupid!!! You know, shit happens. It shouldn't but it does. Like you aren't really paying attention being sidetracked, and the shit hits the fan. Happens.To all of us. Unless you are one of those who never make mistakes, never get sidetracked, never pay less than 100% attention, never assume where you are actually supposed to know,... The list goes on. The OP had a knee jerk reaction, did what had seemed insane on second thougt but didn't spent such. It happens. He actually axplained how it happened. That's human. Did you never make dire mistakes? Well, if you haven't you may keep throwing stones in a glasshouse. For the OP: There was a long thread about this just last week. Uwe And since so many other people did this too, he just called a LOT of people stupid. Not good. It didn't happen to me but only because I saw what other people did and that mktemp was the one to get rid of instead of coreutils. Otherwise, I would have been one of the stupid people too. Then again, I have backups. :-p Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Raid5 not assembled after boot
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Roy Wright wrote: Looking thru dmesg and /var/log/messages, it looks like there are no attempts to start the array until I manually try. Any hints on what I'm missing? Personal experience: 1) don't mix raidtools stuff with mdadm, use only the latter (I'm not saying you used raidtools, but I found a lot of misleading documentation lying around) 2) check carefully the UUID of *all* the partitions, I had exactly the same issue, that I discovered to be caused by a leftover partition that was part of a different raid set (spurious UUID). At some point in the bootup the correct set were disassembled. 3) evms can badly intefere with mdadm (or it was LVM?): try to modify a partition/raid setup and it always appears busy, preventing any editing. HTH Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.24-gentoo-r4, Compiled #2 PREEMPT Wed Apr 2 08:07:24 CEST 2008 One 1GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 2004.03 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: On Saturday 19 April 2008, Justin wrote: Why are you doing things without knowing about the consequences? Always ask before you are doing things which could be stupid!!! You know, shit happens. It shouldn't but it does. Like you aren't really paying attention being sidetracked, and the shit hits the fan. Happens.To all of us. Unless you are one of those who never make mistakes, never get sidetracked, never pay less than 100% attention, never assume where you are actually supposed to know,... The list goes on. The OP had a knee jerk reaction, did what had seemed insane on second thougt but didn't spent such. It happens. He actually axplained how it happened. That's human. Did you never make dire mistakes? Well, if you haven't you may keep throwing stones in a glasshouse. For the OP: There was a long thread about this just last week. Uwe And since so many other people did this too, he just called a LOT of people stupid. Not good. It didn't happen to me but only because I saw what other people did and that mktemp was the one to get rid of instead of coreutils. Otherwise, I would have been one of the stupid people too. Then again, I have backups. :-p Dale Thanks Dale, Uwe, and everyone else who responded. I really appreciate your support. Not worth a email to answer my detractor. He has his point of view. I suppose he's entitled. The system is back to working now as far as I can tell. Without all of you I would hardly have known exactly how to proceed. With your help I made some headway. Not sure yet whether it will reboot successfully but at least I could emerge coreutils and mktemp successfully again. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: init 1, root device is busy :(
Francesco Talamona wrote: On Saturday 19 April 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Thanks a lot! I'll give a deep look at the mentioned files. Anyway I think I'll set my fstab. Now all my partitions are set to never fsck at boot time. :) Supposing it's a ext2/3 partition you may also want to use tune2fs to set the check *frequency*. Other filesystems have specialized tools to do it. Ciao Francesco Yes, I know that (read in the manpage). Once I did mess up totally my filesystem (I think I typed wrong arguments accidentally) with tune2fs. :) Since then I really fear of that command. Okay, so after setting a correct fstab (and the shutdown -Fr now) _all_ my partitions were checked during boot (no more need to worry about the init 1 thing.). My root partition were fixed (reboot was needed). I'll set an fsck frequency and set counters to zero. Thanks all the help, people on this mailing list are very-very helpful. Thanks everyone who wrote to this thread! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE slow shutdown
On Samstag, 19. April 2008, Mick wrote: On Saturday 19 April 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Samstag, 19. April 2008, Mick wrote: How do you mean I need to run lsof? Use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to a console quickly while KDE is shutting down and run it from there, exactly - and you do have to do it as root ;) lsof shows the open files. In my case, when shutting down hangs for ages it is always shutdown accessing kdm.log. But that is only my problem - your problem might me be something completly different. Are you saving sessions? Hmm, I suspect I may do. This is my wife's machine which I rarely use and am not sure (plus I'm not particularly KDE-literate I'm afraid). How do I check? open the control center. Go to 'components', click on session manager. Choose 'start with empty session' or something like that. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?
On Samstag, 19. April 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: Question: Is there a way to recover from this? you should have busybox installed. Just create a symlink for every tool needed. ln -s bb ls and something like that. If even ln is gone, do it from busybox itself - it has everything needed built-in. After that, emerge coreutils (with the buildpkg option). This creates are tarball. Now check. Have been all symlinks replaced with the right tool? If yes. Goto end. Everything is ok. If not. Open tarball, cp the tools. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Raid5 not assembled after boot
Francesco Talamona wrote: On Saturday 19 April 2008, Roy Wright wrote: Looking thru dmesg and /var/log/messages, it looks like there are no attempts to start the array until I manually try. Any hints on what I'm missing? Personal experience: 1) don't mix raidtools stuff with mdadm, use only the latter (I'm not saying you used raidtools, but I found a lot of misleading documentation lying around) 2) check carefully the UUID of *all* the partitions, I had exactly the same issue, that I discovered to be caused by a leftover partition that was part of a different raid set (spurious UUID). At some point in the bootup the correct set were disassembled. 3) evms can badly intefere with mdadm (or it was LVM?): try to modify a partition/raid setup and it always appears busy, preventing any editing. Thank you. I only used mdadm following the gentoo.org docs and gentoo-wiki howtos. Just confirmed all three drives and the mdadm.conf UUID's are the same. evms not installed. lvm2 not installed. yet. I think I found the answer in the man page: --auto-detect Request that the kernel starts any auto-detected arrays. This can only work if md is compiled into the kernel -- not if it is a module. Arrays can be auto-detected by the kernel if all the components are in primary MS-DOS partitions with partition type FD. In-kernel autodetect is not recommended for new installations. Using mdadm to detect and assemble arrays -- possibly in an initrd -- is substantially more flexible and should be preferred. Basically it seems that I need to add a mdadm --assemble --scan to a startup file. Thanks again! Have fun, Roy -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?
I've found, keeping a backup kernel from my last update and loading busybox instead of the system has recued my ass on more then one occassion. Ironicly, I encounted this problem on both my Gentoo Desktop *and* my Gentoo Laptop roughtly a month to two months ago. At this time, there was no evidance of this issue yet and I blindly unmerged mktemp and all was well and never thought about it again till today when I saw this thread. Like I said, I just blindly unmerged mktemp w/ little though, I guess just seeing coreutils and quickly comparing it against mytemp kinda spoke for itself. Either way, your system is back, and that is all that matters. On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Samstag, 19. April 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: Question: Is there a way to recover from this? you should have busybox installed. Just create a symlink for every tool needed. ln -s bb ls and something like that. If even ln is gone, do it from busybo itself - it has everything needed built-in. After that, emerge coreutils (with the buildpkg option). This creates are tarball. Now check. Have been all symlinks replaced with the right tool? If yes. Goto end. Everything is ok. If not. Open tarball, cp the tools. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE slow shutdown
080419 Volker Armin Hemmann Mick discussed: M a box running vanilla KDE is taking an awful long time M to exit the KDE session when I shutdown. VAH lsof grep can tell you which files are accessed. VAH Maybe it takes a looong time writing to kdm.log VAH something that sometimes make my shutdowns extremely slow. M How do you mean I need to run lsof? VAH Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to a console quickly while KDE is shutting down VAH and run it from there as root. lsof shows the open files. In my case, VAH when shutting down hangs for ages it is always accessing kdm.log. VAH But your problem might me be something completly different. VAH Are you saving sessions? I've had the same problem for some time. There was 1 version of KDE (perhaps 3.5.6/7) which didn't do it, but then it started again (now 3.5.9). It saves 11 apps on 10 desktops, but that shouldn't be taking so long on a fast machine: after all, it compiles Kdelibs in 17 min ! In my case, it isn't kdm.log , as I don't have Kdm installed (I use 'startx' from a raw command-line after booting). One way to find out more would be to file a bug with KDE, but I'ld rather not waste their time, if anyone has further advice. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
