Re: Mainframe Consoles
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:57:54 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are looking at replacing our Multiprise 2000 with a z9, and the issue of replacing the console terminals has come up. Currently, we have 3 3290 gas plasma terminals with 4 screens on each for our VSE guests, and a 3472 terminal for VM. We actually need the equivalent of 12 terminals sessions. We plan on using OSA-ICC for the new consoles. It does not look practical to stuff 12 17-inch LCD monitors into our console area. We experimented with multiple BlueZone terminal emulator sessions on a 37-inch LCD monitor, but the result was not very readable. What are other sites doing for consoles? Suggestions, caveats? Peter A couple of suggestions: - have you looked at the Microsoft Virtual Desktop Manager (at http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx) which allows you to have 4 desktops. Not brilliant but could be helpful - how about using Linux instead where you can have multiple desktops? Admittedly you have to switch between them which might not be ideal for y ou - an outboard tool such as AF/Remote which can work as a console controll er with multiple messages being fed into one screen (you'll need to do a bit of work there) IIRC, the gas plasma screens were in fact not allowed in many European countries due to emissions from them. I used one in the UK and thought it was pretty nifty though. Seb.
Mainframe Consoles
We are looking at replacing our Multiprise 2000 with a z9, and the issue of replacing the console terminals has come up. Currently, we have 3 3290 gas plasma terminals with 4 screens on each for our VSE guests, and a 3472 terminal for VM. We actually need the equivalent of 12 terminals sessions. We plan on using OSA-ICC for the new consoles. It does not look practical to stuff 12 17-inch LCD monitors into our console area. We experimented with multiple BlueZone terminal emulator sessions on a 37-inch LCD monitor, but the result was not very readable. What are other sites doing for consoles? Suggestions, caveats? Peter The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on basis of the information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is the property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner.
Re: Mainframe Consoles
I have a customer with 4 19inch displays that have 4 sessions each, no complaints. If they need to zoom an image the maximize button works nicely. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are looking at replacing our Multiprise 2000 with a z9, and the issue of replacing the console terminals has come up. Currently, we have 3 3290 gas plasma terminals with 4 screens on each for our VSE guests, and a 3472 terminal for VM. We actually need the equivalent of 12 terminals sessions. We plan on using OSA-ICC for the new consoles. It does not look practical to stuff 12 17-inch LCD monitors into our console area. We experimented with multiple BlueZone terminal emulator sessions on a 37-inch LCD monitor, but the result was not very readable. What are other sites doing for consoles? Suggestions, caveats? Peter The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on basis of the information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is the property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner. -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2007 - Green Bay, WI - May 18-22, 2007
Re: Mainframe Consoles
I hooked up my desktop to my 42 Plazma HDTV. I thought I could get many screens out of it (trying for 8). But when you sit close, like a normal desktop area, even HDTV looks like a Trash 80 Color computerG. Not usable at all. But then, 1080i in HDTV, isn't that much different then XGA (1024), scaling it up to a large 42 set, just doesn't do it. Our next adventure, is to put multiple graphic cards in the XP box, to drive multiple flat panel monitors. If we can flip the monitors on end, and rotate the graphics, we could get two clear screens per monitor. Win/XP, supports 10 monitors per box. Kind of neat, per the documentation. When you move the mouse off of one screen, it will move to the next screen. Updown...leftright, it doesn't matter. Check control Panel, Display, settings tab to get an idea of how this is done. Then, of course, have multiple TN3270 sessions as consoles. My guess is that this is fairly simple. Otherwise there would be some venders to supply the market. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/12/2007 1:57 PM We are looking at replacing our Multiprise 2000 with a z9, and the issue of replacing the console terminals has come up. Currently, we have 3 3290 gas plasma terminals with 4 screens on each for our VSE guests, and a 3472 terminal for VM. We actually need the equivalent of 12 terminals sessions. We plan on using OSA-ICC for the new consoles. It does not look practical to stuff 12 17-inch LCD monitors into our console area. We experimented with multiple BlueZone terminal emulator sessions on a 37-inch LCD monitor, but the result was not very readable. What are other sites doing for consoles? Suggestions, caveats? Peter The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on basis of the information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is the property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner.
Re: Mainframe Consoles
We use PCs with 19 inch flat panel monitors. We run 4 sessions on each screen. The PCs are running IBM PCOMM under Windows-XP. They are all connect to OSA-ICC cards. At the local site we run one monitor per PC and at a remote site we are running two monitors per PC. Paul -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:58 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Mainframe Consoles We are looking at replacing our Multiprise 2000 with a z9, and the issue of replacing the console terminals has come up. Currently, we have 3 3290 gas plasma terminals with 4 screens on each for our VSE guests, and a 3472 terminal for VM. We actually need the equivalent of 12 terminals sessions. We plan on using OSA-ICC for the new consoles. It does not look practical to stuff 12 17-inch LCD monitors into our console area. We experimented with multiple BlueZone terminal emulator sessions on a 37-inch LCD monitor, but the result was not very readable. What are other sites doing for consoles? Suggestions, caveats? Peter The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on basis of the information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is the property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner.
Re: Mainframe Consoles
The issue isn't the size, it's the effective resolution. 37 doesn't help if it's only a 1024x786 screen. On my laptop (17 widescreen, 1680 x 1050), I can get almost 3 tn3270X sessions next to each other ( a few pixels overlap), and another 2 on the 1280x1024 17 screen next to it. If I didn't mind running at 24 lines rather than 43 lines I could easily stack them one on top of each other. So that'd be 10 sessions. (At Built-in 12 pt. font, reduced line spacing). The screen appears to be 6 character cells too narrow to hold all three across, so I think what's going on is that it's a 7-pixel character cell and I'm getting one spare column's worth on each side in the emulator. So presumably if I overlapped my windows just right I could actually get all the displayable columns of each screen up there at once, and see 10 sessions at one time. This is more than I need at once. YMMV. The classic 3270 font is a 9x14 character cell, I think. So divide your width by 9 and your height by 14 to figure out how many total rows/columns you can get out of your display, and subtract a bit for your window decorations. That should tell you how many monitors you need to buy. Adam On Mar 12, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Feller, Paul wrote: We use PCs with 19 inch flat panel monitors. We run 4 sessions on each screen. The PCs are running IBM PCOMM under Windows-XP. They are all connect to OSA-ICC cards. At the local site we run one monitor per PC and at a remote site we are running two monitors per PC. Paul -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:58 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Mainframe Consoles We are looking at replacing our Multiprise 2000 with a z9, and the issue of replacing the console terminals has come up. Currently, we have 3 3290 gas plasma terminals with 4 screens on each for our VSE guests, and a 3472 terminal for VM. We actually need the equivalent of 12 terminals sessions. We plan on using OSA-ICC for the new consoles. It does not look practical to stuff 12 17-inch LCD monitors into our console area. We experimented with multiple BlueZone terminal emulator sessions on a 37-inch LCD monitor, but the result was not very readable.
