Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Ambassadors for social networking sites

2010-06-14 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Hi,

How do you think this will help in bringing in more crowd to ILUGC monthly
> meets?
>

This is  just an experiment, I am not sure how it pans out to be, but, the
bone of contention of my argument is give a chance to such a venture and
lets record the inference,even if this turns other wise, we have nothing to
lose.


> We already have two websites (not to mention this list), you think this is
> not enough??
>
> Afaik, the official website of ilugc  is www.ilugc.in

Even if ILUGC goes on Facebook/Twitter, we still need to get the word out to
> others to follow ILUGC on Facebook/Twitter.
> We might as well just ask them to follow the websites and this list.
>
> --
>
Your are right, content is the king, I have started contributing contents to
ilugc website and encourage others to do so, and our co-ordinator has some
plans for the forth coming meets, this messages need to be propagated to
masses, i think social networking fan club of ilugc is one of the action
items which we discussed in the last meet.This is an idea, lets give a fair
chance and record its merits

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Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Ambassadors for social networking sites

2010-06-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 11:59:36 Anthoni Shogan wrote:
> On Monday 14 June 2010 11:58 PM, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் wrote:
> > IMHO, We are talking something else instead of addressing the core issue
> > of bringing the crowd.Social networking is one of the action items, i
> > humbly invite all for the next meet. Your presence is the biggest
> > present.I will close this as my last reply in this thread
> 
> Thyagu,
> 
> How do you think this will help in bringing in more crowd to ILUGC 
> monthly meets?
> 
> We already have two websites (not to mention this list), you think this 
> is not enough??
> 

a point that I am frequently making on LUG lists is that ILUGC has more 
activities in a month than the rest of the LUGs in India have in a year. And 
there are so many children of the parent LUG that meet all the time all over 
the state that one can not even count them! In a big city, getting to a 
meeting is always difficult - and to add to the difficulty, more and more 
members 
are getting married and hence have much less time to turn up on a Saturday 
afternoon or on a Sunday. Mumbai LUG manages around one meet a year - and even 
then not more than 5 or 6 people turn up. Same is the case in Hyderabad and 
Bangalore. Pune is an exception in that they have several running courses 
where member can meet each other.

The scene where the people turning up are the old regulars and a few new 
students, will continue. One thing which will push up the attendance is a good 
talk - we encourage first timers to give talks at the LUG to get experience in 
a friendly atmosphere - at the same time if we can work at getting highly 
experienced people giving really good talks, the attendance will jump. When I 
am in Chennai, I try to attend - but I attend out of loyalty rather than to 
hear the talks, although I find I learn something new even when a raw newbie 
talks. Hyderabad lug, some years back used to take pains to get good speakers, 
and I have seen audience of upto 40-50 people for such talks. Which means we 
cannot sit back and wait for volunteers - we must find out who can give good 
talks and twist their arms and make them come through.
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2010-06-14 Thread ஆமாச்சு
வணக்கம்,

முன்னர் குனு இணைய தள பக்கங்கள் பல தமிழாக்கம்[1] செய்யப்பட்டதை தாங்கனைவரும் 
அறிவீர்கள். தற்போது அதன் தொடர்ச்சியாக குனு மென்பொருள் 
உரிமங்கள்[2] தொடர்பாக இருக்கக்கூடிய பக்கங்களை மொழிபெயர்க்க தன்னார்வலர்கள் 
வேண்டும்.

பொதுவான மென்பொருள்களுக்கான கட்டற்ற உரிமங்கள் - இணைய சேவையாக தரப்படும் 
மென்பொருள்களுக்கு உகந்த கட்டற்ற உரிமங்கள், என முக்கியமான பக்கங்கள் பல 
மொழிபெயர்க்கப்பட வேண்டியுள்ளன.

விருப்பமுள்ளோர் எம்மை தொடர்பு கொள்ளவும்.


[1] - https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/www-ta/
[2] - http://www.gnu.org/licenses/

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Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Ambassadors for social networking sites

2010-06-14 Thread Anthoni Shogan

On Monday 14 June 2010 11:58 PM, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் wrote:

IMHO, We are talking something else instead of addressing the core issue of
bringing the crowd.Social networking is one of the action items, i humbly
invite all for the next meet. Your presence is the biggest present.I will
close this as my last reply in this thread


Thyagu,

How do you think this will help in bringing in more crowd to ILUGC 
monthly meets?


We already have two websites (not to mention this list), you think this 
is not enough??


Even if ILUGC goes on Facebook/Twitter, we still need to get the word 
out to others to follow ILUGC on Facebook/Twitter.

We might as well just ask them to follow the websites and this list.

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Re: [Ilugc] how to take image from redhat linux running os

2010-06-14 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Arun Khan  wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:00 PM, karthi keyan  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear friends,
>>>                     Redhat 4 we are using proxy server, that server os need
>>> to take image to external hard disk.
>>> Please tell way and method
>>
>
> Other solutions for consideration:  Clonezilla, Partedmagic, RescueCD,
> G4L (Ghost4Linux).   All have documentation on how to back up systems.
>

dump restore is the geekiest and the best way. Works incredibly
well for all situations.

I rely on it in a big way as it is a BSD thing and backported to linux.

-Girish


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Re: [Ilugc] how to take image from redhat linux running os

2010-06-14 Thread Arun Khan
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:00 PM, karthi keyan  
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>                     Redhat 4 we are using proxy server, that server os need
>> to take image to external hard disk.
>> Please tell way and method
>

Other solutions for consideration:  Clonezilla, Partedmagic, RescueCD,
G4L (Ghost4Linux).   All have documentation on how to back up systems.

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Re: [Ilugc] how to take image from redhat linux running os

2010-06-14 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Shiv Deepak  wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:00 PM, karthi keyan  
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>                     Redhat 4 we are using proxy server, that server os need
>> to take image to external hard disk.
>> Please tell way and method
>
> if by taking image you mean to say you want to take backup of the
> current OS then you can consider using the 'dd' command:
>
> here are some details regarding it:
>
> If the existing disk fails, you can boot from the external drive
> backup and have your system back instantaneously.
>
> This series will make a DVD backup of hard drive partition:
> Code:
>
> dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/home/sam/backup_set_1.img bs=1M count=4430
> dd if=/dev/hda3 skip=4430 of=/home/sam/backup_set_2.img bs=1M count=4430
> dd if=/dev/hda3 skip=8860 of=/home/sam/backup_set_3.img bs=1M count=4430
>
> And so on. This series will burn the images to DVD+/-R/RW:
> Code:
>
> wodim -dev=/dev/hdc --driveropts=burnfree /home/sam/backup_set_1.img
>
> and so forth. To restore the from the backup, load the DVDs in order,
> and use commands like these:
> Code:
>
>  dd if=/media/dvd/backup_set_1.img of=/dev/hda3 bs=1M conv=sync,noerror
>
> Load another DVD
> Code:
>
> dd if=/media/dvd/backup_set_2.img of=/dev/hda3 seek=4430 bs=1M 
> conv=sync,noerror
>
> Load another DVD
> Code:
>
> dd if=/media/dvd/backup_set_3.img of=/dev/hda3 seek=8860 bs=1M 
> conv=sync,noerror
>
> and so forth.
>
> source: 
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/
>
> i hope the above link has helped you with your problem :)

dump restore is the way to go

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Re: [Ilugc] how to take image from redhat linux running os

2010-06-14 Thread Shiv Deepak
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:00 PM, karthi keyan  wrote:
>
> Dear friends,
>                     Redhat 4 we are using proxy server, that server os need
> to take image to external hard disk.
> Please tell way and method

if by taking image you mean to say you want to take backup of the
current OS then you can consider using the 'dd' command:

here are some details regarding it:

If the existing disk fails, you can boot from the external drive
backup and have your system back instantaneously.

This series will make a DVD backup of hard drive partition:
Code:

dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/home/sam/backup_set_1.img bs=1M count=4430
dd if=/dev/hda3 skip=4430 of=/home/sam/backup_set_2.img bs=1M count=4430
dd if=/dev/hda3 skip=8860 of=/home/sam/backup_set_3.img bs=1M count=4430

And so on. This series will burn the images to DVD+/-R/RW:
Code:

wodim -dev=/dev/hdc --driveropts=burnfree /home/sam/backup_set_1.img

and so forth. To restore the from the backup, load the DVDs in order,
and use commands like these:
Code:

 dd if=/media/dvd/backup_set_1.img of=/dev/hda3 bs=1M conv=sync,noerror

Load another DVD
Code:

dd if=/media/dvd/backup_set_2.img of=/dev/hda3 seek=4430 bs=1M conv=sync,noerror

Load another DVD
Code:

dd if=/media/dvd/backup_set_3.img of=/dev/hda3 seek=8860 bs=1M conv=sync,noerror

and so forth.

source: 
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/

i hope the above link has helped you with your problem :)

>
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Re: [Ilugc] Dual boot- WIN does not boot, but Debian does

2010-06-14 Thread Shiv Deepak
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:18 PM, SRIKANTH NS  wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I have a dual boot box, Intel 2.5GHZ,2gig ram, 250G HDD
> dual booting XP and DEbian 5.0.
>
> Today morning, it did not boot WIN when I wanted to do some
> Office work (presentation with AtuoCad drgs).
>
> Evening I returned, booted into Debian without any problem,
> browsed net, e mailed.
>
> Now from Debian side I am able to see WIN Partitions and see the
> files also. I can view pictures, play movies etc, but WIN will not
> boot.
>
> I face a blue screen with message " UNMOUNTABLE BOOT VOLUME"
> Probebly due to a new Hardware not properly installed, blah, blah...
> it goes on,
> I have not installed any new hardware.
>
> But fdisk gives following output
>
> ---
>
> debian:/home/srikanth# fdisk -l
>
> Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0xfe4efe4e
>
>   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sda1   *   13825307242817  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda23826   30401   213471720f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
> /dev/sda53826   10454532474117  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda6   10455   17083532474117  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda7   17084   23712532474117  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda8   23713   2753630716248+   7  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda9   27537   3028422073278+  83  Linux
> /dev/sda10  30285   30401  939771   82  Linux swap /
> Solaris
> debian:/home/srikanth#
>
> This problem is probably because, you have installed grub+debian in a
logical partition.. if that is the issue you can resolve it very easily..
here is the link to how to
http://www.idlecool.net/blog/how-to-windows-7-vista-dual-boot-with-linux-fedora-12-kde/


> debian:/home/srikanth# fdisk -l /dev/sda1
>
> Disk /dev/sda1: 31.4 GB, 31461663744 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3824 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0x69205244
>
> This doesn't look like a partition table
> Probably you selected the wrong device.
>
> Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sda1p1   ?   13578  119522   850995205   72  Unknown
> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> /dev/sda1p2   ?   45382   79243   271987362   74  Unknown
> Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> /dev/sda1p3   ?   10499   10499   0   65  Novell Netware
> 386
> Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> /dev/sda1p4  167628  167631   25817+   0  Empty
> Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary.
>
> Partition table entries are not in disk order
>
> debian:/home/srikanth# fdisk -l /dev/sda5
>
> Disk /dev/sda5: 54.5 GB, 54525348864 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 6628 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0x69205244
>
> This doesn't look like a partition table
> Probably you selected the wrong device.
>
> Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sda5p1   ?   13578  119522   850995205   72  Unknown
> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> /dev/sda5p2   ?   45382   79243   271987362   74  Unknown
> Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> /dev/sda5p3   ?   10499   10499   0   65  Novell Netware
> 386
> Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> /dev/sda5p4  167628  167631   25817+   0  Empty
> Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary.
>
> Partition table entries are not in disk order
>
> --
>
> Looking at the above, can anyone guide me what is to be done and what is
> wrong and what happened in WIndows side? Till now I am unable to boot
> WIN.
>
> Please help .
>
> Thanking you in advance,
>
> Srikanth NS
> ISRO, Trivandrum
>
>
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Re: [Ilugc] Dual boot- WIN does not boot, but Debian does

2010-06-14 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:18 PM, SRIKANTH NS  wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I have a dual boot box, Intel 2.5GHZ,2gig ram, 250G HDD
> dual booting XP and DEbian 5.0.
>
> Today morning, it did not boot WIN when I wanted to do some
> Office work (presentation with AtuoCad drgs).
>
> Evening I returned, booted into Debian without any problem,
> browsed net, e mailed.
>
> Now from Debian side I am able to see WIN Partitions and see the
> files also. I can view pictures, play movies etc, but WIN will not
> boot.
>
> I face a blue screen with message " UNMOUNTABLE BOOT VOLUME"
> Probebly due to a new Hardware not properly installed, blah, blah...
> it goes on,
> I have not installed any new hardware.
>
> But fdisk gives following output
> ---
>
> debian:/home/srikanth# fdisk -l
>
> Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0xfe4efe4e
>
>   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sda1   *           1        3825    30724281    7  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda2            3826       30401   213471720    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
> /dev/sda5            3826       10454    53247411    7  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda6           10455       17083    53247411    7  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda7           17084       23712    53247411    7  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda8           23713       27536    30716248+   7  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda9           27537       30284    22073278+  83  Linux
> /dev/sda10          30285       30401      939771   82  Linux swap /
> Solaris
> debian:/home/srikanth#
>
> debian:/home/srikanth# fdisk -l /dev/sda1
>
> Disk /dev/sda1: 31.4 GB, 31461663744 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3824 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0x69205244
>
> This doesn't look like a partition table
> Probably you selected the wrong device.
>
>     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sda1p1   ?       13578      119522   850995205   72  Unknown
> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> /dev/sda1p2   ?       45382       79243   271987362   74  Unknown
> Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> /dev/sda1p3   ?       10499       10499           0   65  Novell Netware
> 386
> Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> /dev/sda1p4          167628      167631       25817+   0  Empty
> Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary.
>
> Partition table entries are not in disk order
>
> debian:/home/srikanth# fdisk -l /dev/sda5
>
> Disk /dev/sda5: 54.5 GB, 54525348864 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 6628 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0x69205244
>
> This doesn't look like a partition table
> Probably you selected the wrong device.
>
>     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sda5p1   ?       13578      119522   850995205   72  Unknown
> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> /dev/sda5p2   ?       45382       79243   271987362   74  Unknown
> Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> /dev/sda5p3   ?       10499       10499           0   65  Novell Netware
> 386
> Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
> /dev/sda5p4          167628      167631       25817+   0  Empty
> Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary.
>
> Partition table entries are not in disk order
> --
>
> Looking at the above, can anyone guide me what is to be done and what is
> wrong and what happened in WIndows side? Till now I am unable to boot
> WIN.
>
> Please help .
>

In such long mails is top posting better or this thing? ;)

Anyway I have no clue how to help you. In such situations I simply reinstall.

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Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Ambassadors for social networking sites

2010-06-14 Thread Mohan L
2010/6/14 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் 

> Hi,
>
>
> Sorry for misquoting as 18 earlier, no freshers, all are directed/usual
> members, at this rate we will find a place next to tigers in the endangered
> list of animals.  An A/C hall which has a seating capacity of nearly 50
> people had merely 15 people. The infra structure  provided by iit-m was
> excellent but not at the best/optimum use.
>
> IMHO, We are talking something else instead of addressing the core issue of
> bringing the crowd.


This what I am expecting.  Thyagarajan you are in write direction. Can you
create new thread on this topic? So that people will discuss.  I am also
very interested to discuss this core issue in different perspective .


> Social networking is one of the action items, i humbly
> invite all for the next meet. Your presence is the biggest present.I will
> close this as my last reply in this thread.
>

I don't thing making some kind advertisement on social networking will bring
good people to open world.  It depends upon how people are using  social
networking. I seen lot of people ( new generation) they are not interested
to waste their time to follow friends and girl friend on social networking.
I request you please think some other way to bring new faces to ILUGC.

Thanks & Rg
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Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Ambassadors for social networking sites

2010-06-14 Thread Mohan L
just because, few softwares are provided as service over web & is accesible
> &
> used by millions (just like microsoft's windows or any other proprietary
> software even to date),

+1.
nice point* *Ramadas. because that is the way their business model generates
more money to them. They don't want to be in open world.


> they do not qualify to be a free and open source
> software & they deserve the same treatment, microsoft windows or oracle's
> database has been given in this list for over a decade :-
>

+1

Thanks & Rg
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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2010-06-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 14 June 2010 17:42:16 Satish Eerpini wrote:
> > we do not want responses from such people
> 
> that is out right rude, and possibly you are missing a lot of people
> and information there.
> 

I do not think it is rude - if you look at mailing lists, you find that the 
best, well thought out, well formatted posts always come from people who are 
extremely busy. In fact I often wonder how these people manage to do this - 
they must be working 25 hours a day. The sloppily formatted posts come not 
because the person is busy, but because the person has too high an opinion of 
himself and does not care about the feelings of others.
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Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Ambassadors for social networking sites

2010-06-14 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Hi,

>>How different are we from them?.//
>While there are several LUGs, that do great job without these, Why can't We
can also be one among them, and set an example?
>Off course, as few others pointed out, there are alternatives like
identi.ca
etc.,

While some of the lugs which i pointed earlier has the social networking
dimension,
I do not see this as evil. may be my opinion, i leave it to the list for
arriving its own decision

Some interesting facts about the last meet population

Jaya engg college guys = 5 (at the fag end of the session 2 left)
Kanchi lug boys   = 2
Shrini + 2 brothers   =  3
My kids + myself = 3
Vatsala+ Raman  = 2
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Total participants:15(13 at the end of the session)
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Sorry for misquoting as 18 earlier, no freshers, all are directed/usual
members, at this rate we will find a place next to tigers in the endangered
list of animals.  An A/C hall which has a seating capacity of nearly 50
people had merely 15 people. The infra structure  provided by iit-m was
excellent but not at the best/optimum use.

IMHO, We are talking something else instead of addressing the core issue of
bringing the crowd.Social networking is one of the action items, i humbly
invite all for the next meet. Your presence is the biggest present.I will
close this as my last reply in this thread.

Thanks and regards,
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[Ilugc] Re: Linux infection proves Windows malware monopoly - thanks

2010-06-14 Thread Siddhu
Hello Arun Khan,

Thanks a lot for your info about securing the system.
I am not running any internet services and   I have installed clamav
already.

But I haven't installed other suggested apps. I will start use those
security
applications.

Thanks,
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Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Ambassadors for social networking sites

2010-06-14 Thread ஆமாச்சு
// I would request you to consider the virtual world as just as the media, as
mentioned by our co-ordinator. It is the attempt of getting more people,
helping them with foss to build their careers.//

just because, few softwares are provided as service over web & is accesible & 
used by millions (just like microsoft's windows or any other proprietary 
software even to date), they do not qualify to be a free and open source 
software & they deserve the same treatment, microsoft windows or oracle's 
database has been given in this list for over a decade :-)

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Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Ambassadors for social networking sites

2010-06-14 Thread ஆமாச்சு
//as other fellow members of the list mentioned, it's about trying to get some 
good things done with the help of Opensource, FSF, FOSS, ILUGC etc., if I 
talk about the Java (Sun Micro Systems) then it's now owned by Oracle Corp, 
I can't write my java applications with this kind of thought.//

Oracle, Microsoft, Nokia any one can be an Open Source Enthusiast, but FSFs, 
LUGS, OSI shall not cross beyond a limit.. It is obvious..

While being with us, When they kneel down to share code & colloborate, nothing 
has to stop us, than to give a cheekish smile.. :-) (Thanks to GPL)

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Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Ambassadors for social networking sites

2010-06-14 Thread ஆமாச்சு
//while some of the lugs are having the social networking face, why not we?.
How different are we from them?.//

While there are several LUGs, that do great job without these, Why can't We 
can also be one among them, and set an example?

Off course, as few others pointed out, there are alternatives like identi.ca 
etc.,

// I see like this, there may be some people in the virtual world, who
would need our support for training and making career in foss. It is the
idea of helping individuals through the 'per se' organisation called ILUGC.
I feel *delivering result* is more important than setting up of foundation
and collecting donation.//

Its your choice. 

Even I do, but won't recommend it to be ILUGC's way..

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Re: [Ilugc] USB device not recognized

2010-06-14 Thread Hrishikesh Murali
Hi,

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Satish Eerpini  wrote:

> if you are looking at recovering the data on the drive the best thing to do
> is to create an image of the disk and then do whatever you want to do
> on that image. Use dd.
>

Yes, but the problem is the partition itself (/dev/sdb* or similar) is not
recognized at all. I have also pasted the output of "fdisk -l" command and
it shows that the device "/dev/sdb" is not recognized. So creating an image
of the drive is not possible using "dd" i guess.

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Re: [Ilugc] USB device not recognized

2010-06-14 Thread Satish Eerpini
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Satish Eerpini  wrote:
>>
>> I run Ubuntu 9.10 i386 arch. And no, I tried plugging it in a Windows 7
>> machine, it didn't get recognized.
>
> plug in the usb disk and then wait for a few seconds (~ 5 seconds) and
> see what you have in the kernel log ( run the command "dmesg  | tail
> -n 30" on a terminal). Copy paste the output of that command in a
> reply so that we can see if it is just an error with the partition
> table (or something similar) or a bigger issue.
>
>
oops , sorry I guess I missed out the links in the first mail, if you
are looking at recovering the data on the drive the best thing to do
is to create an image of the disk and then do whatever you want to do
on that image. Use dd.

For example , say your pen drive is attached to the node /dev/sda2 ,
do something like this :

dd if=/dev/sda2 of=drive_backup

then you will have all the data on the drive also on the file image
drive_backup, you can then try recovery tools on the image.

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Re: [Ilugc] USB device not recognized

2010-06-14 Thread Satish Eerpini
>
> I run Ubuntu 9.10 i386 arch. And no, I tried plugging it in a Windows 7
> machine, it didn't get recognized.

plug in the usb disk and then wait for a few seconds (~ 5 seconds) and
see what you have in the kernel log ( run the command "dmesg  | tail
-n 30" on a terminal). Copy paste the output of that command in a
reply so that we can see if it is just an error with the partition
table (or something similar) or a bigger issue.


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Re: [Ilugc] USB device not recognized

2010-06-14 Thread Hrishikesh Murali
Hi,

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Varrun Ramani wrote:

> Which OS do you run? and does the flash drive work on other OS's ?
>

I run Ubuntu 9.10 i386 arch. And no, I tried plugging it in a Windows 7
machine, it didn't get recognized.

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Re: [Ilugc] USB device not recognized

2010-06-14 Thread Varrun Ramani
On 14 June 2010 21:41, Hrishikesh Murali wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a 2GB Transcend USB pendrive formatted with FAT32 filesystem. All of
> a sudden today, the USB device did not mount when I plugged it in.
>
>
Which OS do you run? and does the flash drive work on other OS's ?

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Re: [Ilugc] system commands from Gtk

2010-06-14 Thread Satish Eerpini
> I have used the system( ) command to execute the system commands through the 
> Gtk program... Please suggest me whether I can adhere to this or it's better 
> to use the execv function... I am learning through the Gtk...pls suggest.

you really did not mention what you are trying to do in the so called
gtk programs. Anyway as a short description,

system() : allows you to run a binary from inside a C program, but you
don't have any control on the executing program, you just have to wait
until the call to system returns

there are other interfaces you can use though :

popen() : is very similar to system, but it also allows you to either
pipe input to the stdin of the binary you are executing, or pipe the
stdout of the binary you are executing and access it via a file
descriptor in the C program. You can only do one at a time and the
program waits for popen() to return.

the exec family of functions : allow you to run a binary executable
and you can control the process since when you run it a new process is
forked and you have control over the child.

may be a little more info on what you are trying to do will allow you
to decide better.

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[Ilugc] USB device not recognized

2010-06-14 Thread Hrishikesh Murali
Hi,

I have a 2GB Transcend USB pendrive formatted with FAT32 filesystem. All of
a sudden today, the USB device did not mount when I plugged it in.

I checked "lsusb" and the usb device was recognized. But when I executed
"sudo fdisk -l", the filesystem was not recognized. When I also executed
"dmesg|tail", I found that the partitions were not recognized.

The output of the three commands can be found at "
http://pastebin.com/MHZtTRH6";.

I have used testdisk to recover data, but when I executed testdisk, only my
internal hard disk was displayed, I could not choose the USB device. Is
there a way to recover the data in the pendrive?

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[Ilugc] Dual boot- WIN does not boot, but Debian does

2010-06-14 Thread SRIKANTH NS
Hi All

I have a dual boot box, Intel 2.5GHZ,2gig ram, 250G HDD
dual booting XP and DEbian 5.0.

Today morning, it did not boot WIN when I wanted to do some
Office work (presentation with AtuoCad drgs).

Evening I returned, booted into Debian without any problem,
browsed net, e mailed.

Now from Debian side I am able to see WIN Partitions and see the
files also. I can view pictures, play movies etc, but WIN will not
boot.

I face a blue screen with message " UNMOUNTABLE BOOT VOLUME"
Probebly due to a new Hardware not properly installed, blah, blah...
it goes on, 
I have not installed any new hardware.

But fdisk gives following output
---

debian:/home/srikanth# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xfe4efe4e

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *   13825307242817  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda23826   30401   213471720f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda53826   10454532474117  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda6   10455   17083532474117  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda7   17084   23712532474117  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda8   23713   2753630716248+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda9   27537   3028422073278+  83  Linux
/dev/sda10  30285   30401  939771   82  Linux swap /
Solaris
debian:/home/srikanth# 

debian:/home/srikanth# fdisk -l /dev/sda1

Disk /dev/sda1: 31.4 GB, 31461663744 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3824 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x69205244

This doesn't look like a partition table
Probably you selected the wrong device.

 Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1p1   ?   13578  119522   850995205   72  Unknown
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda1p2   ?   45382   79243   271987362   74  Unknown
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda1p3   ?   10499   10499   0   65  Novell Netware
386
Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda1p4  167628  167631   25817+   0  Empty
Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary.

Partition table entries are not in disk order

debian:/home/srikanth# fdisk -l /dev/sda5

Disk /dev/sda5: 54.5 GB, 54525348864 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 6628 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x69205244

This doesn't look like a partition table
Probably you selected the wrong device.

 Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda5p1   ?   13578  119522   850995205   72  Unknown
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda5p2   ?   45382   79243   271987362   74  Unknown
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda5p3   ?   10499   10499   0   65  Novell Netware
386
Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda5p4  167628  167631   25817+   0  Empty
Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary.

Partition table entries are not in disk order
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Looking at the above, can anyone guide me what is to be done and what is
wrong and what happened in WIndows side? Till now I am unable to boot
WIN.

Please help .

Thanking you in advance,

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Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Ambassadors for social networking sites

2010-06-14 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Hi,
>>Well, what makes you so concerned?
My passion and my contribution as a foot soldier of ilugc for the last 6
years.Nothing more nothing less.

>> How about firmwares running on network and
storage engineering perspective? are we enjoying them freely? We just need
to
be practical. If facebook/twitter going be listed on Newyork Stock Exchange
or NASDAQ on tomorrow, what do you then say? We must need to get out of this
circle (especially when we associated with the public forum).

I would request you to consider the virtual world as just as the media, as
mentioned by our co-ordinator. It is the attempt of getting more people,
helping them with foss to build their careers.

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Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Ambassadors for social networking sites

2010-06-14 Thread Arun Kumar
2010/6/14 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் :
> Hi,
>
> 2010/6/14 ஆமாச்சு 
>
>> An Open Source enthusiast is not the question. ILUGC is the question :-)

as other fellow members of the list mentioned, it's about trying to get some 
good things done with the help of Opensource, FSF, FOSS, ILUGC etc., if I 
talk about the Java (Sun Micro Systems) then it's now owned by Oracle Corp, 
I can't write my java applications with this kind of thought.

>>
>> ILUGC is the commune of Open Source people, what stops ilugc not to be a
> part in the social networking media?.,
> while some of the lugs are having the social networking face, why not we?.
> How different are we from them?.
>
>
>> // All these social media sites are just media to expose our activities.
>> This is an experiment to get new faces to ilugc.
>> Any social media content can be created by anyone.
>> They are not official. they just reflect what we discuss in official
>> list.//
>>
> Thanks. So ILUGC doesn't endorse them. Request to avoid discussing &
>> encouraging them. Disclaim it.
>>
>>
> Requesting you to be spiritual and not religious, at least i am not getting
> clear with the reason why you are asking to keep ilugc away from the virtual

Well, what makes you so concerned? How about firmwares running on network and 
storage engineering perspective? are we enjoying them freely? We just need to 
be practical. If facebook/twitter going be listed on Newyork Stock Exchange 
or NASDAQ on tomorrow, what do you then say? We must need to get out of this 
circle (especially when we associated with the public forum).

> world. I see like this, there may be some people in the virtual world, who
> would need our support for training and making career in foss. It is the
> idea of helping individuals through the 'per se' organisation called ILUGC.
> I feel *delivering result* is more important than setting up of foundation
> and collecting donation.
>
> regards,
> Thyagarajan Shanmugham
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[Ilugc] system commands from Gtk

2010-06-14 Thread Prabhu Gnana Sundar
I have used the system( ) command to execute the system commands through the 
Gtk program... Please suggest me whether I can adhere to this or it's better to 
use the execv function... I am learning through the Gtk...pls suggest.

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[Ilugc] OAOD (iriverter)

2010-06-14 Thread Dhastha Gheer
Application: iriverter

What it is:

iriverter is a cross-platform frontend to mencoder designed to
facilitate the conversion of almost any video format to one that is
playable on various multimedia players.

To know more about:

http://iriverter.thestaticvoid.com/

To install:

sudo apt-get install iriverter

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux infection proves Windows malware monopoly

2010-06-14 Thread Arun Khan
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Siddhu  wrote:
>
> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 UE at my home.
> could you please suggest any good scanner to find the trojans/worms
> in the linux environment.

As long as you are not running any Internet facing services on your
desktop you system integrity should  be OK.  I always use the default
NAT option of the DSL modem/routers and get a "natural" firewall for
my network.

As for scanners None.   To the best of my knowledge the scanners that
run on Linux are for (possibly) detecting Windows based Virus.

Use "aide" or "tripwire" and save the initial sig files on a read only
media like CD/DVD; use cron to schedule aide/tripwire to compare the
sigs with the "ro" version and report differences.
BTW, this should be done after you do a fresh install as well as
security/bug updates from "trusted" repos.

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Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Ambassadors for social networking sites

2010-06-14 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Hi,

2010/6/14 ஆமாச்சு 

> An Open Source enthusiast is not the question. ILUGC is the question :-)
>
> ILUGC is the commune of  Open Source people, what stops ilugc not to be a
part in the social networking media?.,
while some of the lugs are having the social networking face, why not we?.
How different are we from them?.


> // All these social media sites are just media to expose our activities.
> This is an experiment to get new faces to ilugc.
> Any social media content can be created by anyone.
> They are not official. they just reflect what we discuss in official
> list.//
>
Thanks. So ILUGC doesn't endorse them. Request to avoid discussing &
> encouraging them. Disclaim it.
>
>
Requesting you to be spiritual and not religious, at least i am not getting
clear with the reason why you are asking to keep ilugc away from the virtual
world. I see like this, there may be some people in the virtual world, who
would need our support for training and making career in foss. It is the
idea of helping individuals through the 'per se' organisation called ILUGC.
I feel *delivering result* is more important than setting up of foundation
and collecting donation.

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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2010-06-14 Thread Satish Eerpini
>
> we do not want responses from such people

that is out right rude, and possibly you are missing a lot of people
and information there. But, yeah I do agree that top posting is no
good, but if that is the only option then apologising before doing it
is fine I guess.
And unfortunately there is more top posting in this thread that in any
other I have seen in the recent times on the ILUGC list.

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Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Ambassadors for social networking sites

2010-06-14 Thread ஆமாச்சு
// If Spreading open source via proprietary media is bad,
any open source enthusiast should not use the following services.
1. sourceforge.net
2. code.google.com
3. github.com
4. bitbuket.org

except launchpad as that is the only open source solution for hosting our 
code.//

An Open Source enthusiast is not the question. ILUGC is the question :-)

// All these social media sites are just media to expose our activities.
This is an experiment to get new faces to ilugc.
Any social media content can be created by anyone.
They are not official. they just reflect what we discuss in official list.//

Thanks. So ILUGC doesn't endorse them. Request to avoid discussing & 
encouraging them. Disclaim it.

Probably just like people gives link to picasa, flickr etc., on their own 
people can provide links etc.,

//Just looking media as just a media.
We will be happy if ilugc activities are published in any newspaper, TV, radio
regardless thinking what  proprietary software they are using.
same is applicable here also.//

What is the conflict/ corelation here?

If ILUGC runs a Newspaper, TV, radio, it has to make use of Free Software is 
the point. 

any news agency can publish any news happening anywhere, particularly when it 
is of public interest.

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[Ilugc] how to take image from redhat linux running os

2010-06-14 Thread karthi keyan
Dear friends,
 Redhat 4 we are using proxy server, that server os need
to take image to external hard disk.
Please tell way and method

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux infection proves Windows malware monopoly

2010-06-14 Thread Siddhu
Hello Arun Khan,

I just want to make our users aware about the threat.
as you said the sysadmins should not be lazy or over confident,
irrespective of the platform they works.
Thanks for your reply.

Hello Arun S.A.G,

Thanks for you information about zdnet.
But zdnet also posted some good articles about Linux,
like 10 top Linux rescue  tools  and information about the Giant
companies are switching to Linux from Windows over security concerns.
Thats why I post the article in our group.


I am using Ubuntu 10.04 UE at my home.
could you please suggest any good scanner to find the trojans/worms
in the linux environment.

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Re: [Ilugc] June Month ILUGC Meet

2010-06-14 Thread தங்கமணி அருண்
>
> > On Saturday 12 Jun 2010 8:17:42 pm Ravi Jaya wrote:
> > > Srini, I have a thought, why cant we assign this task to somebody who
> can
> > > post it regularly right after every meet.  Share yours   too..
> > >
> >
> > ரொம்ப அவசியமும் கூட..
> >
>

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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2010-06-14 Thread karthi keyan
external hard disk not possibleto installed ubuntu

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:26 PM, jaya kumar wrote:

> hi to all
>
> i got linux ubuntu 10.04 version dvd
>
> but my dvd writer not working well i think its repaired
>
> how can i install that ubuntu from usb via external hard disk is it
> possible
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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2010-06-14 Thread Balaji Damodaran
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Sri Ram  wrote:
>> >>we do not want responses from such people
>>
>
> -1
>

To those who add '+1' and '-1'  - can you guys explain in few words
about your thoughts as well?

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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2010-06-14 Thread Sri Ram
> >>we do not want responses from such people
>

-1



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[Ilugc] Thanks for considering Mepco for FOSSConf2010

2010-06-14 Thread shenbagaraj ramachandran
>
> 3. FossConf 2010
>
> 3.1 Need a place. Any college should organize the event.
> Jaya engg is interested. SSN also would be interested.
> 3.2 Should contact Arts & Science colleges also.
> 3.3 We can have the event on August-September month for 2 days
> 3.4 Need Physical Volunteers
> 3.5 If not possible in chennai, then we can contact south india
> colleges like mepco.
>

Thanks for considering Mepco for FOSSConf2010.
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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2010-06-14 Thread Roshan Mathews
+1

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 13:35, Kenneth Gonsalves  wrote:
> On Saturday 12 June 2010 18:48:52 Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
>> If you want LUG to get responses from busy people responsible for
>> businesses and so on(the people that know what they are talking)
>> then you have to put up with some inconveniences like this.
>>
>
> we do not want responses from such people
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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2010-06-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Saturday 12 June 2010 18:48:52 Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
> If you want LUG to get responses from busy people responsible for
> businesses and so on(the people that know what they are talking)
> then you have to put up with some inconveniences like this.
> 

we do not want responses from such people
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[Ilugc] Pycon India 2010

2010-06-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
http://in.pycon.org/2010/
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Re: [Ilugc] Regarding FOSSCONF

2010-06-14 Thread Ravi Jaya
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:43 AM, chidambaresan sakthi <
chidambasak...@gmail.com> wrote:

> if you guide us in this aspect,i believe we do the
> conference a great success and i assure that if you give opportunity,we do
> our best to our extend.
>
"That's the SPIRIT", the lug oldies are looking for.

@Chidambaresan Lets wait for some more time, the list would take a the call
on this and update you ASAP.

@others, from understanding, the ilugc is looking for the venue partners to
orang-anise the FOSSConf 2010, interested parties, please feel free to write
to the list, stating you interest.


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Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Ambassadors for social networking sites

2010-06-14 Thread Shrinivasan T
Hi,

If Spreading open source via proprietary media is bad,
any open source enthusiast should not use the following services.

1. sourceforge.net
2. code.google.com
3. github.com
4. bitbuket.org

except launchpad as that is the only open source solution for hosting our code.

:-)

All these social media sites are just media to expose our activities.

This is an experiment to get new faces to ilugc.
Any social media content can be created by anyone.
They are not official. they just reflect what we discuss in official list.

Just looking media as just a media.
We will be happy if ilugc activities are published in any newspaper, TV, radio
regardless thinking what  proprietary software they are using.
same is applicable here also.

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