Re: [ilugd] Free IPv6 Book - The Second Internet
I like the government's way of defining stakeholders, just exactly what they did to NIXI, whoever pays license fees is a stakeholder others don't exist in an ecosystem, where did the arbitrary number of 10K subscribers or STM-1 bandwidth come from ?. We are happy to not exist, thank you. Who is the private partner here in the PPP, what sort of filter criteria are/were included and who defined them to choose the private partner. Regards -Tarun Dua aka nobotz ;-) On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Ajay Kumar wrote: > Dear All, > It is happening.Govt of India has announced the road map of IPv6 > Implementation and fixed last date as Dec,2012.Below is a link of > announcement.This is for your kind info. > http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=63382 > Cheers, > Ajay Kumar > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Naresh Narang wrote: > >> Thanks to MPLS, otherwise routers would be in ICU after >> > computing 128 >> > bits per address per packet. >> >> >> Please explain this one. >> >> >> --Naresh Narang >> >> ___ >> Ilugd mailing list >> Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org >> http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd >> > > > > -- > Treasurer-ISOC Delhi(www.isocdelhi.in) > Technical Officer & PIO -National Internet Exchange of India(www.nixi.in) > C/O Software Technology Parks of India,Ministry of Communication and > Information Technology,Govt of India, > Ganga Software Technology Complex,Block-IV, > Sector 29,Noida-201303 > UP India > (M) +91-9868477444 > (D)+91-120-4547425 > Skype ID:erajay > E-mail: ajay at nixi.in,P-mail: joinajay1 at gmail.com > . > Please don't print this email unless you really need to. This will preserve > trees on our planet. > ___ > Ilugd mailing list > Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Free IPv6 Book - The Second Internet
Dear All, It is happening.Govt of India has announced the road map of IPv6 Implementation and fixed last date as Dec,2012.Below is a link of announcement.This is for your kind info. http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=63382 Cheers, Ajay Kumar On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Naresh Narang wrote: > Thanks to MPLS, otherwise routers would be in ICU after > > computing 128 > > bits per address per packet. > > > Please explain this one. > > > --Naresh Narang > > ___ > Ilugd mailing list > Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > -- Treasurer-ISOC Delhi(www.isocdelhi.in) Technical Officer & PIO -National Internet Exchange of India(www.nixi.in) C/O Software Technology Parks of India,Ministry of Communication and Information Technology,Govt of India, Ganga Software Technology Complex,Block-IV, Sector 29,Noida-201303 UP India (M) +91-9868477444 (D)+91-120-4547425 Skype ID:erajay E-mail: ajay at nixi.in,P-mail: joinajay1 at gmail.com . Please don't print this email unless you really need to. This will preserve trees on our planet. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] windows application on linux desktop
Hi Balwant > Hi, > > Thanks for the nice suggestions. > > We do not want give windows screen to the user. The users should see the > windows application as a part of the linux desktop only. > > I searched google and found LTSP Cluster & Ulteo but there is no depth > documentation how to achieve the same. > > If anybody has implemented this type of solution, pls. share your > knowledge. > Use seamlessrdp (http://www.cendio.com/seamlessrdp/) We have implemented that and it works like charm Regards -- Varad Gupta Keen & Able Computers Pvt Ltd 62, Deepak Building 13, Nehru Place New Delhi - 110019 Tel. : +91-11-26426184/5 FAX : +91-11-41808565 varad.gu...@keenable.com www.keenable.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] windows application on linux desktop
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Sudev Barar wrote: > On 26 July 2010 18:58, balwant singh wrote: > > Can we integrate windows application to linux. There will be one windows > > m/c on which some window application will be running, want to give access > of > > the application to some users who will be on linux. > > > > Lookup rdesktop, vnc etc for remote windows access > > wine or similar emulators for local running of window programs > > -- > Regards, > Sudev Barar > Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there. > > PS: Replying using bottom post/in-line post makes email conversations > whole lot easier for meaningful dialogue. Snip out what is not > relevant. Adopt this and spread the message. > Hi, Thanks for the nice suggestions. We do not want give windows screen to the user. The users should see the windows application as a part of the linux desktop only. I searched google and found LTSP Cluster & Ulteo but there is no depth documentation how to achieve the same. If anybody has implemented this type of solution, pls. share your knowledge. -- With Best Wishes Balwant ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] windows application on linux desktop
I think you are talking about running the client side software on linux. You can easily do it with WINE. Also for many servers running on windows have their client side applications available in linux tar balls so u can search for your application as well On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Sudev Barar wrote: > On 26 July 2010 18:58, balwant singh wrote: > > Can we integrate windows application to linux. There will be one windows > > m/c on which some window application will be running, want to give access > of > > the application to some users who will be on linux. > > > > Lookup rdesktop, vnc etc for remote windows access > > wine or similar emulators for local running of window programs > > -- > Regards, > Sudev Barar > Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there. > > PS: Replying using bottom post/in-line post makes email conversations > whole lot easier for meaningful dialogue. Snip out what is not > relevant. Adopt this and spread the message. > > ___ > Ilugd mailing list > Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > -- Satyajeet Singh 09911547664 ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] windows application on linux desktop
On 26 July 2010 18:58, balwant singh wrote: > Can we integrate windows application to linux. There will be one windows > m/c on which some window application will be running, want to give access of > the application to some users who will be on linux. > Lookup rdesktop, vnc etc for remote windows access wine or similar emulators for local running of window programs -- Regards, Sudev Barar Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there. PS: Replying using bottom post/in-line post makes email conversations whole lot easier for meaningful dialogue. Snip out what is not relevant. Adopt this and spread the message. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Free IPv6 Book - The Second Internet
Thanks to MPLS, otherwise routers would be in ICU after > computing 128 > bits per address per packet. Please explain this one. --Naresh Narang ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] windows application on linux desktop
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:58 PM, balwant singh wrote: > Hi, > > Need your help. > > Can we integrate windows application to linux. There will be one windows > m/c on which some window application will be running, want to give access of > the application to some users who will be on linux. > > please advise your opinion / knowledge on this how to integrate the windows > application with linux and give access to selected user. If it needs to be run on the client side, then you will have to see if it works with WINE. If you can run the software on windows itself. You can give remote access to the user on the windows machine. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Free IPv6 Book - The Second Internet
This is becoming off topic but could you elaborate on this please? The entire TCP/IP stack in 'serious' implementations is derived some way or the other from BSD and is FOSS since ages. Then how does it become off-topic? Label Switching was deviced as a means to speed up switching but is no more used for that purpose due to faster processors available. Do you mean to say that processors dont do switching? kindly look at details of Intel IXP series. It is now used only for application specific needs - VOIP for example, but would like to be enlightened. another is a hardware firewall ... a L4 switch ... Video on Demand ...and the list is endless. Mohit Singh -- Today's Imagination is Tomorrow's Innovation Today's Innovation is Tomorrow's Common Sense Today's Common Sense is Tomorrow's Nonsense ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Free IPv6 Book - The Second Internet
> > Thanks to MPLS, otherwise routers would be in ICU after > computing 128 > bits per address per packet. > > This is becoming off topic but could you elaborate on this please? Label Switching was deviced as a means to speed up switching but is no more used for that purpose due to faster processors available. It is now used only for application specific needs - VOIP for example, but would like to be enlightened. --Naresh Narang ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Free IPv6 Book - The Second Internet
> It will happen, it will happen in our lifetimes... > -- nobotz > > Soon we'll be tunneling IPv4 packets in IPv6 packets to keep our legacy > alive. :D Thanks to MPLS, otherwise routers would be in ICU after computing 128 bits per address per packet. Mohit Singh -- Today's Imagination is Tomorrow's Innovation Today's Innovation is Tomorrow's Common Sense Today's Common Sense is Tomorrow's Nonsense ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Free IPv6 Book - The Second Internet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Mohit Singh writes: >> Anyone interested in setting up IPv6 enabled LANs in their home, labs and >> looking for some helpful documentation (read as: newbie friendly), should >> check out the free IPv6 book 'The Second Internet'[1] authored by Lawrence >> E. Hughes, CTO and Chairman, Infoweapons. > its wonderful that you informeed about this free book. > I once asked Madam Radia Perlman "will Ipv6 ever happen?". She > responded that "There will not be a conversion from IPv4 to IPv6 but > there will be islands of IPv6 connected by tunnels of IPv4". It will happen, it will happen in our lifetimes... -- nobotz Soon we'll be tunneling IPv4 packets in IPv6 packets to keep our legacy alive. :D - -- Ashish SHUKLA “ECC curves are divided into three groups, weak curves, inefficient curves, and curves patented by Certicom” (Peter Gutmann, 2001-08-10) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJMTZdLAAoJEMdGz6nnT6SwheUP/2kbfJbsZ7GyHAMzyOgWZ+J+ vxHRCPP+tasmtarIxq5BD7xJ8yH1r/b4eZ1bV8ICJdAcgnZKffjEbSBEiDirF+WF +V77pWvIMz9eKyEl8wV4bXJ44VhmNYNuWhU7wMx/rBrZQL0fudFXqzX3m5hRbKn/ qD4y5Y6cPeKRIPgmMdwCNjezrQTIZMD8qxsQOJAH2pGIP6Vm4sTx3OAlc63J/lgr Jq1DmWmP3vYk4N2V2BpGiPiv+KzOt9x7q9VAM5rSbRVv2GIMNWE3qEq7CYKwfrI9 foOxicmUMzPxP+X4O2kTKEDuX+yAfPlC8Vvc+kK5zHy98TGYNqrrHtc7meWHUm/P xcs3X+OWtXS+g0CDpOKMGmRUVZgx3AzQd25UfLXBmZhaEUPxHqnV97w8rB3r334E qfuFtY4k8brUKTDF9ztmzeym98Ds9v8kt/6hsA+unT3NTosaQvn+U4VnMuxO4MYN G2upHPIfTd5JGGxmFirPE8k9/6N+36igUdIWd+NQXQur88rHJntQ+CXH/gF25CYI Gw3OoaLhPkJbCaFTOD4J3jDSq1ew4Zwke3Co+m0GOpGo2MF+tHvYKkzYZYGTndRl vpI66Jy83Xrr/pEAajoJPmgOjqLByPl1qfSz+NDmrAzvwyW6Ra7O8laQjlrkmWYR tqaXfZArFBYDZ5g8hSfY =TVIO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Free IPv6 Book - The Second Internet
> Anyone interested in setting up IPv6 enabled LANs in their home, labs and > looking for some helpful documentation (read as: newbie friendly), should > check out the free IPv6 book 'The Second Internet'[1] authored by Lawrence > E. Hughes, CTO and Chairman, Infoweapons. its wonderful that you informeed about this free book. I once asked Madam Radia Perlman "will Ipv6 ever happen?". She responded that "There will not be a conversion from IPv4 to IPv6 but there will be islands of IPv6 connected by tunnels of IPv4". This may be a perspective surely, but we cant overhear the people who 'created' Internet. This is same as the usage of DSL MODEMs over conventional telephony wire, as we cant replace every twisted pair with a fiber. MPLS VPNs, VLANs and NATing eliminated the need of IPv6 - this is all we heard and saw in last years. even after this, if IPv6 is being implemented as 'Freedom day from IPv4', people like me keep their fingers crossed. We still see a phased deployment for sure.. Mohit Singh -- Today's Imagination is Tomorrow's Innovation Today's Innovation is Tomorrow's Common Sense Today's Common Sense is Tomorrow's Nonsense ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] windows application on linux desktop
Hi, Need your help. Can we integrate windows application to linux. There will be one windows m/c on which some window application will be running, want to give access of the application to some users who will be on linux. please advise your opinion / knowledge on this how to integrate the windows application with linux and give access to selected user. thanks. -- With Best Wishes Balwant ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Sagar Belure writes: [...] > And yes, Vivek seems right, that apt-cacher-ng uses cache located at > /var/cache/apt-cacher-ng/_import. > Now, I'm hoping importing already downloaded packages from > /var/cache/apt/will be all fine. With apt-cacher you need to run a script apt-cacher-import.pl, after copying the already downloaded packages in 'import' directory, which copies packages in 'packages' directory and registers in its cache db. HTH - -- Ashish SHUKLA “Age is not an accomplishment, and youth is not a sin.” (Robert A. Heinlein, "Methuselah's Children", 1958) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJMTYwuAAoJEMdGz6nnT6SwZdsP/1DEZeaVomOzym9PTHpwzAX3 4505QYR57AW92DHUmbyl8Hz0tAUBIVrdX5Y7lODG21GL2bUPNXAmKmKBZCylX635 cYi8LFZPs6Q/8w3+8PsXqOhjhCSo/S2ROY97u/SsvhE5rFJlu3KCWDNTvQCkKmJd OqR4Ow0PchcQrIQg3MUoRCae6HY/Xir25o6/TUcZINeR1YW/4DJYCYO+1SFSIcOU Uj27drTPM/PLCU/v8JbgljxrtXhCFexSDpwDcQrkf5aZJrl9kgYWyZrmwp02BpCf Ygju9Ko4iW6MHxOf54qC06YnV9hddULvFKqsdjjuWPDy1Ct7OUDSKGtUg1MzD735 Z5OKKVxO0bjTpLOxXGjavJ8VzLop1O3IeJnNr2AY+ALyBMhlw02FSDj74uCofa0m uKOyMdtYbJ/jsACiF+kjXwPeO/B7IgAyv41F1vx38R9rCxFGGaqp4gZc3PSsEc00 IvCUp/yh4xIOmdbYPO2X/Clv7NQVWscD/cF6uz5NdfNyGFu3soKCygH0HSGdklCC lzHC9X2N4ZOTdzK3K9AJfMYZcFAMEQVoohNpL5I9W7sBVJZXCqCcR9bhFZXus80A +IMMFtrINFL2NZVD76QcgFI0AtobHMpSthysXxzowTQam6FuIIPd8L2IfYuSz/IA BNzBrSW4LMa82qWq5yc+ =hvZO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Help me for a project
Kindly read: http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/i-want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do.pdf (Courtesy: Shakti Kannan [mbuf]) --- n9986 ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Help me for a project
Im final year engineering studant frm nsit, delhi.. I want to do final year project in linux/gcc. Plzz suggest me any project.. Im so confused. Skills: bash shell, gcc and c wid data structure. Time span: i can devote 4 to 5 month in the project. Im interested to do something with grub or gcc. But im nt aware of internals of gcc. Bt im keen to know. Afterall this the philosophy behind doing project- to learn new things. I really need a guidance. Plzz help me. -pankaj kumar Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Yahoo! Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger.yahoo.com/download.php ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Ashish SHUKLA wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Sagar Belure writes: > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Ashish SHUKLA > wrote: > > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA512 > >> > >> Sagar Belure writes: > >> > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Sagar Belure < > sagar.bel...@gmail.com > >> >wrote: > >> > >> >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Ashish SHUKLA >> >wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> >>> Hash: SHA512 > >> >>> > >> >>> Vivek Kapoor writes: > >> >>> > On 07/23/2010 06:32 PM, Sagar Belure > wrote: > >> >>> >> Please, bear with me, if I'm not able to properly present my > >> >>> requirement. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> There are some 32 and 64 bit ubuntu systems in same network. > >> >>> >> I want only one system(like, one 32 and one 64 bit systems) to be > >> >>> updated > >> >>> >> and upgraded on daily basis. > >> >>> >> And, rest of the systems, to fetch those updated packages before > >> they > >> >>> go > >> >>> >> online and check for new packages. > >> >>> > >> >>> > From what I have understood, you don't want every machine to > download > >> >>> > from the Ubuntu repositories, but only one machine should do the > >> >>> > task. It'll handle 32bit and 64bit without any issues. Use one of > the > >> >>> > following > >> >>> > >> >>> > apt-proxy, apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng, approx > >> >>> > >> >>> > I started with apt-cacher and faced update issues in long term > use, > >> so > >> >>> > I moved to approx and was happy with it, but newer version > presented > >> a > >> >>> > bit difficulty in the sense that it didn't run its own daemon. So > I > >> >>> > moved onto apt-cacher-ng which has been working well for quite > some > >> >>> > time now. > >> >>> > >> >>> I also used apt-cacher in past and it worked but recent versions had > >> some > >> >>> issues, so I kept the old version pinned on my Debian box. > >> >>> > >> >>> I also tried pkg-cacher[1] because I needed to cache for 'yum' > >> >>> (fedora/centos) > >> >>> also and it worked great since it can cache both 'yum' and 'apt'. > >> >>> > >> >>> References: > >> >>> [1] http://gforge.opensource-sw.net/gf/project/pkg_cacher/frs/ > >> >>> > >> >>> HTH > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> Thank you all for your responses. > >> >> I got options to look into and your views and experience is really > >> >> valuable. > >> >> > >> > >> > 'apt-cacher-ng' seems to fulfill my requirements. > >> > BTW, is it ,by any chance, possible to set up 'repository-cache' > server > >> > combined for 32 as well as 64 bit systems. > >> > apt-cacher-ng uses /var/cache/apt/archives as repository, and is > >> obviously > >> > different for 32 and 64 bit systems. > >> > >> The file names of the downloaded packages have architecture mentioned in > >> them, > >> so you don't have to worry about 32-bit packages getting overwritten by > >> 64-bit > >> ones. And I used a single repository with apt-cacher and pkg-cacher. > >> > > > Ok. By that, you mean, once I run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get > > upgrade' on repository-cache server(Ubuntu 10.04 amd64 desktop), provided > it > > has apt-cache-ng installed, will be able to fetch 32 bit debs too? > > I'm not sure about 'apt-cache-ng', never used it. > > > Or wait > > > How am I supposed to update repository-cache server? > > I used 'apt-cacher' and 'pkg-cacher' both of which act only when they > receive > an HTTP request from one of the clients. They're usually installed as a CGI > binary, or as a standalone web-server. And when they receive a HTTP request > for a file, they perform a cache look-up, and if the file is in cache, they > serve it from cache, otherwise they initiate downloading from the source. > The > first time one of your client updates itself, a 'cache miss' will happen > and > the packages will be downloaded. And for subsequent updates, the packages > are > served from the cache. > Ok. That was very clear and neat. Thank you. AFAICS, installation with 'apt-cacher-ng' on the systems seems the same way, looking at the configuration page by browsing http://localhost:3124/acng-report.html And yes, Vivek seems right, that apt-cacher-ng uses cache located at /var/cache/apt-cacher-ng/_import. Now, I'm hoping importing already downloaded packages from /var/cache/apt/will be all fine. -- Thanks, Sagar Belure Security Analyst Secfence Technologies www.secfence.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Free IPv6 Book - The Second Internet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi everyone, Anyone interested in setting up IPv6 enabled LANs in their home, labs and looking for some helpful documentation (read as: newbie friendly), should check out the free IPv6 book 'The Second Internet'[1] authored by Lawrence E. Hughes, CTO and Chairman, Infoweapons. The book is available under a Creative Commons license. References: [1] http://www.secondinternet.org/content/free-ipv6-book-second-internet HTH - -- Ashish SHUKLA | GPG: F682 CDCC 39DC 0FEA E116 20B6 C746 CFA9 E74F A4B0 freebsd.org!ashish | http://people.freebsd.org/~ashish/ “In God we trust. Everybody else we verify using PGP!” (Tim Newsome) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJMTW5MAAoJEMdGz6nnT6SwXxIP/3kjXpQogywL4x5T1TpCB4Kt CbBob0nx6HZAjo2uAUjcAbMbqT/Ww1u9fA2X4SxIBOi3I95ZKs2USeQivFuZQ5TK XM3MNsJzxo+9k/b4x/c2JWyqZY34v4FQICJrCzmZ+HJgmCw2Nx97mTS1luEnw8/r GjQRiVb7Kjq5/kRPr9eB2NfoKD5soznRRg/Ekjuy4LxfO3T5LqbRvzNZ155q68MJ h75GkZuLPUVnMjE7GaxgXnTUCJ4Nc43S3p3rBEmkl5DWJ0pfehU1P01scBZKyItx noqiXwA2OwKYeeBaHQpLb6/HoNz2unGSunBSFDAlMqYoYWmGnfB0JPn/pM3UpwOF fJIV+qnNcnM8czwAWVwrBIvcA+RUxp9yDxZxrsZAU0NFiGWucKOcIx3GZB5F/GWn GFNXqqzt1+kfMCF/UNQaSONjzAZdg01Qe/TtdQUTMcWSwclyZeFAl5JVIm4G5U8C hxpZEosM/5vxdwLSKt+OxAFMYbkARihyec4wtzTqf5s1AkPbo/mOnubd9+JId9yo lpZGIRvZuAhh7J1UtfPF+phFgtADlexnlPwuqNZhYAjbO3s2l7VKHqDu7Q4MIBMd isufTDeP0S30wwIUCGWJBSRUbBo+21a37cjEUblScRxg97aqmv6ZTs4tJNc3R3G3 m8OFavXSTqhTLyhSEy+T =OCHR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Sagar Belure writes: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Ashish SHUKLA wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA512 >> >> Sagar Belure writes: >> > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Sagar Belure > >wrote: >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Ashish SHUKLA > >wrote: >> >> >> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> >>> Hash: SHA512 >> >>> >> >>> Vivek Kapoor writes: >> >>> > On 07/23/2010 06:32 PM, Sagar Belure wrote: >> >>> >> Please, bear with me, if I'm not able to properly present my >> >>> requirement. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> There are some 32 and 64 bit ubuntu systems in same network. >> >>> >> I want only one system(like, one 32 and one 64 bit systems) to be >> >>> updated >> >>> >> and upgraded on daily basis. >> >>> >> And, rest of the systems, to fetch those updated packages before >> they >> >>> go >> >>> >> online and check for new packages. >> >>> >> >>> > From what I have understood, you don't want every machine to download >> >>> > from the Ubuntu repositories, but only one machine should do the >> >>> > task. It'll handle 32bit and 64bit without any issues. Use one of the >> >>> > following >> >>> >> >>> > apt-proxy, apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng, approx >> >>> >> >>> > I started with apt-cacher and faced update issues in long term use, >> so >> >>> > I moved to approx and was happy with it, but newer version presented >> a >> >>> > bit difficulty in the sense that it didn't run its own daemon. So I >> >>> > moved onto apt-cacher-ng which has been working well for quite some >> >>> > time now. >> >>> >> >>> I also used apt-cacher in past and it worked but recent versions had >> some >> >>> issues, so I kept the old version pinned on my Debian box. >> >>> >> >>> I also tried pkg-cacher[1] because I needed to cache for 'yum' >> >>> (fedora/centos) >> >>> also and it worked great since it can cache both 'yum' and 'apt'. >> >>> >> >>> References: >> >>> [1] http://gforge.opensource-sw.net/gf/project/pkg_cacher/frs/ >> >>> >> >>> HTH >> >>> >> >> >> >> Thank you all for your responses. >> >> I got options to look into and your views and experience is really >> >> valuable. >> >> >> >> > 'apt-cacher-ng' seems to fulfill my requirements. >> > BTW, is it ,by any chance, possible to set up 'repository-cache' server >> > combined for 32 as well as 64 bit systems. >> > apt-cacher-ng uses /var/cache/apt/archives as repository, and is >> obviously >> > different for 32 and 64 bit systems. >> >> The file names of the downloaded packages have architecture mentioned in >> them, >> so you don't have to worry about 32-bit packages getting overwritten by >> 64-bit >> ones. And I used a single repository with apt-cacher and pkg-cacher. >> > Ok. By that, you mean, once I run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get > upgrade' on repository-cache server(Ubuntu 10.04 amd64 desktop), provided it > has apt-cache-ng installed, will be able to fetch 32 bit debs too? I'm not sure about 'apt-cache-ng', never used it. > Or wait > How am I supposed to update repository-cache server? I used 'apt-cacher' and 'pkg-cacher' both of which act only when they receive an HTTP request from one of the clients. They're usually installed as a CGI binary, or as a standalone web-server. And when they receive a HTTP request for a file, they perform a cache look-up, and if the file is in cache, they serve it from cache, otherwise they initiate downloading from the source. The first time one of your client updates itself, a 'cache miss' will happen and the packages will be downloaded. And for subsequent updates, the packages are served from the cache. HTH - -- Ashish SHUKLA “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” (Arthur C. Clarke) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJMTWB2AAoJEMdGz6nnT6SwgC0QAIN4rPafmLzQH6qNfgM4jAbw RiWSahPt4v272sq0HZ7mIRX7KjTdVO2OBfVhYIhyZ3rEchlStj1TwfkKcZF1toRR ItocI+o5mJ8pSKGhszCAhT0TWzImNsZJplJds2h7XbBcl2sndc3sNHzuSCOpRG83 xMDa9xKvHnoTD00vLkZhT245i5f8GpfrCJAY+yqqcDoOL+iwA4b7s9g+1s/T4K5w JstbhFkOfrL3SgofokgPHlELV2Mfc+fzURQO5wJ2WVBVSP9NS5Ydb5yMvQigG8PJ tJBbr9/kpQ6191gtJmpe63p7MyVGX+WkJfX6y/X2WQtdy4tcbA5Bw5/s2earSv0M RoaMz/w0a4l1Ab12rS1bWqExXHbozhf3D8Rssj06ILEgHCmtrBdLSl89AnoHlwQF iW4Asuc+Q972nsAHJti2FKdSHjToU8ONnr08gdiKw0Q86+NoB61IxPH1aS1QAAcx AOkCRQBl71lc5i3Cj+x2m5v1CULMrpNVNhnYx5K2VUyxQ4DKPSQUw7OuRueqjSkF LOUdVIxRVhS27TvGQUYY6i29KH5wvMcqNClvVRgS5SRU+JsnzkazRe9XHGUKXm9V gdkU7Nu+T1+Msd8WzAwUDpkWt5Lx7lG+D3bQXR0t6nYfKYGQkNnAi7ER5WMPDSz3 mtCbHxcWsY1ZOtgnSXdG =CMn9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Ashish SHUKLA wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Sagar Belure writes: > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Sagar Belure >wrote: > > >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Ashish SHUKLA >wrote: > >> > >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >>> Hash: SHA512 > >>> > >>> Vivek Kapoor writes: > >>> > On 07/23/2010 06:32 PM, Sagar Belure wrote: > >>> >> Please, bear with me, if I'm not able to properly present my > >>> requirement. > >>> >> > >>> >> There are some 32 and 64 bit ubuntu systems in same network. > >>> >> I want only one system(like, one 32 and one 64 bit systems) to be > >>> updated > >>> >> and upgraded on daily basis. > >>> >> And, rest of the systems, to fetch those updated packages before > they > >>> go > >>> >> online and check for new packages. > >>> > >>> > From what I have understood, you don't want every machine to download > >>> > from the Ubuntu repositories, but only one machine should do the > >>> > task. It'll handle 32bit and 64bit without any issues. Use one of the > >>> > following > >>> > >>> > apt-proxy, apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng, approx > >>> > >>> > I started with apt-cacher and faced update issues in long term use, > so > >>> > I moved to approx and was happy with it, but newer version presented > a > >>> > bit difficulty in the sense that it didn't run its own daemon. So I > >>> > moved onto apt-cacher-ng which has been working well for quite some > >>> > time now. > >>> > >>> I also used apt-cacher in past and it worked but recent versions had > some > >>> issues, so I kept the old version pinned on my Debian box. > >>> > >>> I also tried pkg-cacher[1] because I needed to cache for 'yum' > >>> (fedora/centos) > >>> also and it worked great since it can cache both 'yum' and 'apt'. > >>> > >>> References: > >>> [1] http://gforge.opensource-sw.net/gf/project/pkg_cacher/frs/ > >>> > >>> HTH > >>> > >> > >> Thank you all for your responses. > >> I got options to look into and your views and experience is really > >> valuable. > >> > > > 'apt-cacher-ng' seems to fulfill my requirements. > > BTW, is it ,by any chance, possible to set up 'repository-cache' server > > combined for 32 as well as 64 bit systems. > > apt-cacher-ng uses /var/cache/apt/archives as repository, and is > obviously > > different for 32 and 64 bit systems. > > The file names of the downloaded packages have architecture mentioned in > them, > so you don't have to worry about 32-bit packages getting overwritten by > 64-bit > ones. And I used a single repository with apt-cacher and pkg-cacher. > Ok. By that, you mean, once I run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade' on repository-cache server(Ubuntu 10.04 amd64 desktop), provided it has apt-cache-ng installed, will be able to fetch 32 bit debs too? Or wait How am I supposed to update repository-cache server? -- Thanks, Sagar Belure Security Analyst Secfence Technologies www.secfence.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu
On 07/26/2010 02:28 PM, Sagar Belure wrote:
Yes, apt-cacher* is just cache server.
But, I have to install it *individually* on two different systems for 32
and 64 bit systems.
Not sure what you mean by install it individually. You just install
apt-cacher-ng `apt-get install apt-cacher-ng` on a single machine, and
on each of the client machines you just create a file named 01proxy in
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d having
Acquire::http { Proxy "http://xx.xx.xx.xx:3142";; };
where xx.xx.xx.xx is the IP of the machine on which apt-cacher-ng is
installed. That's all. You can also do the same on the apt-cacher-ng
machine also.
On each client machine then run `apt-get update` and you're done. It
doesn't matter it's 32bit or 64bit. Of course the firewall should be
opened on apt-cacher-ng machine for tcp port 3142.
Did you see any message mentioning 32bit and 64bit there?
Like in Windows, WSUS caches the packages for almost all Windows product
updates, doesn't matter if it's 32 or 64 bit, doesn't even matter if
updates are for XP or Vista or Win7.
So, all I'm asking if it's possible to achieve same kind of
functionality in Ubuntu too?
Yes, these caching servers do just that. Irrespective of the
architecture or even the distribution & version (atleast Ubuntu/Debian
based).
Or do you want to have a complete ubuntu mirror on your machine? I don't
think that would be a good idea.
[1]http://www.ubuntugeek.com/apt-cacher-ng-http-download-proxy-for-software-packages.html
It's too complicated a setup in the link above. Also, the writer is
importing packages from /var/cache/apt/archives to prevent downloading
them again - this is just for the first time. You may not need it at all.
Regards
Vivek Kapoor
http://exain.com
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Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Sagar Belure writes: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Sagar Belure wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Ashish SHUKLA wrote: >> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA512 >>> >>> Vivek Kapoor writes: >>> > On 07/23/2010 06:32 PM, Sagar Belure wrote: >>> >> Please, bear with me, if I'm not able to properly present my >>> requirement. >>> >> >>> >> There are some 32 and 64 bit ubuntu systems in same network. >>> >> I want only one system(like, one 32 and one 64 bit systems) to be >>> updated >>> >> and upgraded on daily basis. >>> >> And, rest of the systems, to fetch those updated packages before they >>> go >>> >> online and check for new packages. >>> >>> > From what I have understood, you don't want every machine to download >>> > from the Ubuntu repositories, but only one machine should do the >>> > task. It'll handle 32bit and 64bit without any issues. Use one of the >>> > following >>> >>> > apt-proxy, apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng, approx >>> >>> > I started with apt-cacher and faced update issues in long term use, so >>> > I moved to approx and was happy with it, but newer version presented a >>> > bit difficulty in the sense that it didn't run its own daemon. So I >>> > moved onto apt-cacher-ng which has been working well for quite some >>> > time now. >>> >>> I also used apt-cacher in past and it worked but recent versions had some >>> issues, so I kept the old version pinned on my Debian box. >>> >>> I also tried pkg-cacher[1] because I needed to cache for 'yum' >>> (fedora/centos) >>> also and it worked great since it can cache both 'yum' and 'apt'. >>> >>> References: >>> [1] http://gforge.opensource-sw.net/gf/project/pkg_cacher/frs/ >>> >>> HTH >>> >> >> Thank you all for your responses. >> I got options to look into and your views and experience is really >> valuable. >> > 'apt-cacher-ng' seems to fulfill my requirements. > BTW, is it ,by any chance, possible to set up 'repository-cache' server > combined for 32 as well as 64 bit systems. > apt-cacher-ng uses /var/cache/apt/archives as repository, and is obviously > different for 32 and 64 bit systems. The file names of the downloaded packages have architecture mentioned in them, so you don't have to worry about 32-bit packages getting overwritten by 64-bit ones. And I used a single repository with apt-cacher and pkg-cacher. HTH - -- Ashish SHUKLA | GPG: F682 CDCC 39DC 0FEA E116 20B6 C746 CFA9 E74F A4B0 freebsd.org!ashish | http://people.freebsd.org/~ashish/ “We've so many people in India, that we're able to route each network packet manually.” (nobotz) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJMTVBVAAoJEMdGz6nnT6SwY7kP/iDN6jMdb9c6fizag3pTEqv1 /yynBEiZYrY6M34UdeWLTixWHpYG0pxFHjuAW8nun0hNuwHIaqdp+s9aIpoxZbuq J+G8bWkzgvU/Ran2iQ+zsogqVonZr7O1/KxqKeUorybjIoJJa+Qn+QbkfZDeqjLZ ED3Y1ItQ9iredKE3RDhmr+KWLeeeDZY/m5X0ZjaFbbRdnfLU3dfbkd2XAd6EP/9V sVyQjFI0izogAvLoItkEIW2WZVErk2jXxg8hJfdOpM23PTDEtIMlxrqw/TV837w/ xKN9PUrevj7URIR6ACNcDh7l0uHq/QlPqL9+Cg9ULrp0l4leZSx9qiAPMjezleBn JN0FGVgB0mdILXEBENn3kyrIVVA1/C8jQWqoffhPkIjSXWS9CkP2WDOKWJ9m3T+/ /4ldV5hQJvJ9GN8UAK20ySQyj5BsTHZjXWPqg7TUxB9Ernrcm0xl6QIpERGjt20j 4xnUMMEDP42KP/uLgj7ymHGahoHkRBruu1kS3NDPTnA90TegCvOdnxWNGCN+KfR8 0r+8VyaIh7vcJpkTYdfTjCxaoYktH7mWUPN/Zqy+a2EvRefmG3SZ83/0myZAWMEK szobGyYw0P8eHmHfCOQDMWb0xQ/KlfMtFBXTPGaQOKruREoeJ4WqJrwoAP2xLtsk La3PRIyVQtuUi0m8j36Z =/o4C -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Vivek Kapoor wrote: > On 07/26/2010 01:47 PM, Sagar Belure wrote: > >> >> 'apt-cacher-ng' seems to fulfill my requirements. >> BTW, is it ,by any chance, possible to set up 'repository-cache' server >> combined for 32 as well as 64 bit systems. >> > > apt-cacher* is for repository-cache of both 32bit and 64bit architecture. > It's just a cache server, so it doesn't matter whether it's 32bit or 64bit > as the client machine would request a particular package which the caching > server would download (unless it's already downloaded) and serve. Yes, apt-cacher* is just cache server. But, I have to install it *individually* on two different systems for 32 and 64 bit systems. > > > apt-cacher-ng uses /var/cache/apt/archives as repository, and is obviously >> different for 32 and 64 bit systems. >> > > I don't think it uses /var/cache/apt/archives. Instead it uses > /var/cache/apt-cacher-ng for the cache. Atleast it does that on my machine. Well, that's what I read[1]. > > > Any clue, to achieve combined repository? >> >> > Not sure what you mean by combined repository. What do you intend to do? Like in Windows, WSUS caches the packages for almost all Windows product updates, doesn't matter if it's 32 or 64 bit, doesn't even matter if updates are for XP or Vista or Win7. So, all I'm asking if it's possible to achieve same kind of functionality in Ubuntu too? [1] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/apt-cacher-ng-http-download-proxy-for-software-packages.html -- Thanks, Sagar Belure Security Analyst Secfence Technologies www.secfence.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu
On 07/26/2010 01:47 PM, Sagar Belure wrote: 'apt-cacher-ng' seems to fulfill my requirements. BTW, is it ,by any chance, possible to set up 'repository-cache' server combined for 32 as well as 64 bit systems. apt-cacher* is for repository-cache of both 32bit and 64bit architecture. It's just a cache server, so it doesn't matter whether it's 32bit or 64bit as the client machine would request a particular package which the caching server would download (unless it's already downloaded) and serve. apt-cacher-ng uses /var/cache/apt/archives as repository, and is obviously different for 32 and 64 bit systems. I don't think it uses /var/cache/apt/archives. Instead it uses /var/cache/apt-cacher-ng for the cache. Atleast it does that on my machine. Any clue, to achieve combined repository? Not sure what you mean by combined repository. What do you intend to do? Regards Vivek Kapoor http://exain.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Sagar Belure wrote: > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Ashish SHUKLA wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA512 >> >> Vivek Kapoor writes: >> > On 07/23/2010 06:32 PM, Sagar Belure wrote: >> >> Please, bear with me, if I'm not able to properly present my >> requirement. >> >> >> >> There are some 32 and 64 bit ubuntu systems in same network. >> >> I want only one system(like, one 32 and one 64 bit systems) to be >> updated >> >> and upgraded on daily basis. >> >> And, rest of the systems, to fetch those updated packages before they >> go >> >> online and check for new packages. >> >> > From what I have understood, you don't want every machine to download >> > from the Ubuntu repositories, but only one machine should do the >> > task. It'll handle 32bit and 64bit without any issues. Use one of the >> > following >> >> > apt-proxy, apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng, approx >> >> > I started with apt-cacher and faced update issues in long term use, so >> > I moved to approx and was happy with it, but newer version presented a >> > bit difficulty in the sense that it didn't run its own daemon. So I >> > moved onto apt-cacher-ng which has been working well for quite some >> > time now. >> >> I also used apt-cacher in past and it worked but recent versions had some >> issues, so I kept the old version pinned on my Debian box. >> >> I also tried pkg-cacher[1] because I needed to cache for 'yum' >> (fedora/centos) >> also and it worked great since it can cache both 'yum' and 'apt'. >> >> References: >> [1] http://gforge.opensource-sw.net/gf/project/pkg_cacher/frs/ >> >> HTH >> > > Thank you all for your responses. > I got options to look into and your views and experience is really > valuable. > 'apt-cacher-ng' seems to fulfill my requirements. BTW, is it ,by any chance, possible to set up 'repository-cache' server combined for 32 as well as 64 bit systems. apt-cacher-ng uses /var/cache/apt/archives as repository, and is obviously different for 32 and 64 bit systems. Any clue, to achieve combined repository? -- Thanks, Sagar Belure Security Analyst Secfence Technologies www.secfence.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
