[JBoss-dev] PHP problems
OK so we are really in a bind here. The script kiddy code may be functional, this lack of caching is really killing us. The site is pegged at 100 with dips at 50% on occasion but all in all the profile looks pretty bad. The Java code was 3 times faster. I feel good on one hand because this is yet another point in the "cache is king" category but it is also horrible scalability. It also makes the website next to un-usable since the response time is so bad. Next time I hear some ignorant bozo tell me apache is fast and c is fast and java is slow I take my baseball bat and smash his head in. I am tired of the rampant ignorance even among the geeks. It is just amusing at this point. We need to port the functionality we use in the website one to one with EJB's backing it up and offering some caching so we can multiply the speed by 10 and go back to our usual 10% CPU utilization. JNUKE will be a killer project. marcf xx Marc Fleury, Ph.D. President, Founder JBoss Group, LLC xx --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP problems
Marc, Don't forget that hardware is cheap compared to man-hours. If you're writing tissue-paper code (write once, never modify, throw away when broken), "script kiddie" languages are great. If not, be prepared to eat it in the long run on man hours / maintennance. I think that the use of the tissue-paper "methodology" flies in the face of OSS. Why bother to open-source your IP if nobody will ever read it and you're just going to throw it away anyway? I'm glad to hear that this is a stopgap solution. BTW, thanks for providing a real-world case to justify my PHP allergy :) - Matt -Original Message- From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:56 PM To: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net Subject: [JBoss-dev] PHP problems OK so we are really in a bind here. The script kiddy code may be functional, this lack of caching is really killing us. The site is pegged at 100 with dips at 50% on occasion but all in all the profile looks pretty bad. The Java code was 3 times faster. I feel good on one hand because this is yet another point in the "cache is king" category but it is also horrible scalability. It also makes the website next to un-usable since the response time is so bad. Next time I hear some ignorant bozo tell me apache is fast and c is fast and java is slow I take my baseball bat and smash his head in. I am tired of the rampant ignorance even among the geeks. It is just amusing at this point. We need to port the functionality we use in the website one to one with EJB's backing it up and offering some caching so we can multiply the speed by 10 and go back to our usual 10% CPU utilization. JNUKE will be a killer project. marcf xx Marc Fleury, Ph.D. President, Founder JBoss Group, LLC xx --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP problems
> Don't forget that hardware is cheap compared to man-hours. > If you're writing tissue-paper code (write once, never > modify, throw away when broken), "script kiddie" languages > are great. right interestingly enough we might have to upgrade the machine just to get decent response times on the forums (where most of the database access is done). The notion of caching is lost on script kiddies. Never again will I tolerate a discussion on C vs Java or Apache vs JBoss or EJB vs direct JDBC. I am laughing my head off today, this computing thing is easy marcf > > - Matt > > -Original Message- > From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:56 PM > To: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net > Subject: [JBoss-dev] PHP problems > > > OK so we are really in a bind here. The script kiddy code > may be functional, this lack of caching is really killing us. > The site is pegged at 100 with dips at 50% on occasion but > all in all the profile looks pretty bad. The Java code was 3 > times faster. I feel good on one hand because this is yet > another point in the "cache is king" category but it is also > horrible scalability. It also makes the website next to > un-usable since the response time is so bad. > > Next time I hear some ignorant bozo tell me apache is fast > and c is fast and java is slow I take my baseball bat and > smash his head in. I am tired of the rampant ignorance even > among the geeks. It is just amusing at this point. We need > to port the functionality we use in the website one to one > with EJB's backing it up and offering some caching so we can > multiply the speed by 10 and go back to our usual 10% CPU > utilization. > > JNUKE will be a killer project. > > marcf > > xx > Marc Fleury, Ph.D. > President, Founder > JBoss Group, LLC > xx > > > > --- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: > SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something > 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com > ___ > Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > > > --- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: > SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] PHP problems
Matt Munz wrote: Marc, If you're writing tissue-paper code (write once, never modify, throw > away when broken), "script kiddie" languages are great. > If not, be prepared to eat it in the long run on man > hours / maintennance. And remember that eating used tissue-paper is never a good thing. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP problems
what's a pronoun? :) - Matt -Original Message- From: danch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] PHP problems Matt Munz wrote: > Marc, > > If you're writing tissue-paper code (write once, never modify, throw > away when broken), "script kiddie" languages are great. > If not, be prepared to eat it in the long run on man > hours / maintennance. And remember that eating used tissue-paper is never a good thing. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP problems
> Matt Munz wrote: > > Marc, > > > > If you're writing tissue-paper code (write once, never > modify, throw > > away when broken), "script kiddie" languages are great. > > If not, be prepared to eat it in the long run on man > > hours / maintennance. > > And remember that eating used tissue-paper is never a good thing. LOL yeah. That being said I think the approach is not bad, you know me. Bad code that works that is great! I wish we did more of that in java in general too much "MVC" too much "model 2" too much "separation of concerns" too much wanking if you ask me. Same for JBoss sometimes. Keep it simple and get it working. Good for the kiddies. There is an equilibrium between the mess that results and the rigid approach most java purist take. If we can strike that balance with nukes on jboss marcf --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Broken links - Re: [JBoss-dev] PHP problems
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, marc fleury wrote: > [snip] Hmm. There broken links on the site. Some stale .jsp(team.jsp(from the front page) is a 404). --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: Broken links - Re: [JBoss-dev] PHP problems
We are fixing them ASAP. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adam > Heath > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 4:14 PM > To: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net > Subject: Broken links - Re: [JBoss-dev] PHP problems > > > On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, marc fleury wrote: > > > [snip] > > Hmm. There broken links on the site. Some stale > .jsp(team.jsp(from the front > page) is a 404). > > > > > --- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: > SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! > http://www.vasoftware.com > ___ > Jboss-development mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
