[lace] Commeratives and Web page

2005-04-14 Thread PhaserBait
Hi all!
I've gotten a few requests for the commerative prices again, so I am going to 
post the US price sheet one more time.  If you need it for another country, 
let me know!
My WONDERFUL DH re-did the web page for this year, so if you want to see some 
of the stuff, you can hit it at http:members.aol.com/jspruitt
Some computers have trouble with this site, and you may have to add the www. 
at the beginning.
Thanks!

JoAnne Pruitt
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COMMEMORATIVE ORDER FORM
United States
Contact Person: JoAnne Pruitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ALL PRICES ARE IN US DOLLARS


Roseground bobbins:
East Midland Bone: 17.90 ---
East Midland Wood 9.00 ---
Continental Wood 10.00 ---
Honiton Wood 9.00 ---


Spangles for Midland bobbins: 1.20 ---


Tatting Shuttles 11.00 
Stuart shuttles, painted by Rebecca Roush


Cover Cloths 4.25 -
Black with white webs 


Bobbin Rolls 10.00 --
Black with white webs


Sissor Holders 3.00 ---
Black with white webs


Turned Handle Items
Turned by JoAnne Pruitt, Painted by Rebecca Roush


Prickers 7.00 --


Lazy Susans 7.00 --


Latch Hooks 7.00 --


Crochet Hooks 7.00 ---
(0.4mm) 


Shipping and Handling 3.00 


Name___ Total


Address__ JoAnne Pruitt
2480 22nd Ave.
__ Marion Ia. 52302
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Re: [lace] Travel restrictions

2005-04-14 Thread Paul and Dona
It might depend on the airlines and airport, but I just flew Quantas and 
Virgin Blue/Pacific Blue through 3 different Australian airports and 2 
different New Zealand airports and I had knitting with me every step of the 
way and I never had any problem with it.  Now my yogurt, cheese sticks and 
dried beef jerky they took away.  We had 24 hours of flying that day and 
were hoping not have to eat airport food at every stop.  Even if you're just 
transiting through an airport they won't let you keep your snacks!  I guess 
you just never know what those nasty terrorists might do with those food 
products!Anyway, I had 5" bamboo needles with socks on them and I 
had bamboo circular needles with a shetland lace shawl on them.  I also had 
a crochet hook in my knitting bag (for those times you need help picking up 
a runaway stitch) and a darning needle.  No one batted an eyelash at any of 
it.
Dona in Asan, Guam
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From: "Elizabeth Ligeti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:47 AM
Subject: [lace] Travel restrictions


Knitting needles are still a 'No-No' on Australian aircraft.
Scissors of any sort, nail cutters, nailfiles, crochet hooks, and knives 
of any sort are all banned as well.

I will have my tatting shuttle with a pick end with me.  The sort with a 
tiny hook on the end are banned.

However, coming back from Norfolk Island, they confiscated a nail file - 
but left me a few safety pins - and one of them worked well for a tatting 
hook!!! :)

So I will be one of Noelene's  group - with "Tatting in my Pocket" ! 
:))

from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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[lace] Travel restrictions

2005-04-14 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Knitting needles are still a 'No-No' on Australian aircraft.
Scissors of any sort, nail cutters, nailfiles, crochet hooks, and knives of 
any sort are all banned as well.

I will have my tatting shuttle with a pick end with me.  The sort with a 
tiny hook on the end are banned.

However, coming back from Norfolk Island, they confiscated a nail file - but 
left me a few safety pins - and one of them worked well for a tatting 
hook!!! :)

So I will be one of Noelene's  group - with "Tatting in my Pocket" ! :))
from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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Re: [lace] overlap joins

2005-04-14 Thread Barb ETx
I thought I was the only one who did that...  (VBG)  I do not start
counting repeats until I had at least two under my belt.  Actually, I do not
do it too often, but some patterns seem to require overlapping.
 BArbE
  - Original Message -
  From: Clay Blackwell
  To: Bev Walker ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:00 PM
  Subject: re: [lace] overlap joins


  Bev wrote -

  >  You are giving yourself the advantage, therefore, by making 'extra.' Of
  course I have yet to test the method myself (a Flanders hanky edging lies
  in wait, just for the purpose) but I believe it! --  <


  SO true!!  And if you're still hesitant, think of it THIS way...  You have
  the option of which end you discard.  This way, you're not working extra
  repeats at all...  you're giving yourself the opportunity to discard the
  first two or three repeats that weren't quite as pretty as the rest of the
  work!!  The attitude makes all the difference!!

  Clay

  Clay Blackwell
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  > [Original Message]
  > From: Bev Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > Date: 4/14/2005 1:23:05 AM
  > Subject: re: [lace] overlap joins
  >
  > Alice wrote:
  >
  > > A common mistake of the beginner is to be so happy to have reached the
  > *end*, that they don't want to continue on for another couple repeats.
  >
  > LOL - this is what put me off trying the methods in 'Het Lassen' - which
I
  > invested in because I didn't like the joins I was making with tying knots
  > or doing sewings (butting beginning to end). I couldn't imagine making
  > more repeats than necessary -- time passes, that was then, this is now,
  > and I quite enjoy the chance to make more repeats than a complete
  > perimeter, and don't even mind that some of the extra will be cut away. I
  > think of the 'extras' as a means to the end (quite literally).
  >
  > > True, the actual overlap used is just a couple rows, but the end result
  > will be not as neat if there is little choice of sewing pathway.
  >
  > You are giving yourself the advantage, therefore, by making 'extra.' Of
  > course I have yet to test the method myself (a Flanders hanky edging lies
  > in wait, just for the purpose) but I believe it! --
  > bye for now
  > Bev in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
  > Cdn. floral bobbins
  > www.woodhavenbobbins.com
  >
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re: [lace] overlap joins

2005-04-14 Thread Clay Blackwell
Bev wrote -
 
>  You are giving yourself the advantage, therefore, by making 'extra.' Of
course I have yet to test the method myself (a Flanders hanky edging lies
in wait, just for the purpose) but I believe it! --  <


SO true!!  And if you're still hesitant, think of it THIS way...  You have
the option of which end you discard.  This way, you're not working extra
repeats at all...  you're giving yourself the opportunity to discard the
first two or three repeats that weren't quite as pretty as the rest of the
work!!  The attitude makes all the difference!!

Clay

Clay Blackwell
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> [Original Message]
> From: Bev Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 4/14/2005 1:23:05 AM
> Subject: re: [lace] overlap joins
>
> Alice wrote:
>
> > A common mistake of the beginner is to be so happy to have reached the
> *end*, that they don't want to continue on for another couple repeats.
>
> LOL - this is what put me off trying the methods in 'Het Lassen' - which I
> invested in because I didn't like the joins I was making with tying knots
> or doing sewings (butting beginning to end). I couldn't imagine making
> more repeats than necessary -- time passes, that was then, this is now,
> and I quite enjoy the chance to make more repeats than a complete
> perimeter, and don't even mind that some of the extra will be cut away. I
> think of the 'extras' as a means to the end (quite literally).
>
> > True, the actual overlap used is just a couple rows, but the end result
> will be not as neat if there is little choice of sewing pathway.
>
> You are giving yourself the advantage, therefore, by making 'extra.' Of
> course I have yet to test the method myself (a Flanders hanky edging lies
> in wait, just for the purpose) but I believe it! --
> bye for now
> Bev in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
> Cdn. floral bobbins
> www.woodhavenbobbins.com
>
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RE: [lace] travel restrictions

2005-04-14 Thread Janice Blair
I have not had a problem with knitting needles in the US or to Europe after 
9/11 but a friend who works for AA said they were changing some of their 
guidelines which is what prompted me to check their web site.  I got the TSA 
site from that webpage and was able to see that they approve of knitting 
needles as well.  I use thick, long bamboo needles which do not show up on the 
xray but I always declare them anyway.  I think if I have excess weight between 
London and Tolouse it will be okay as my ticket is booked round trip from the 
US.  BA refuse to accept anything weighing more tham 70 lbs even as excess 
baggage.  I once saw a guy opening his case at checkin and taking stuff out and 
having it reweighed.  I think it took three attempts until it was under the top 
weight allowed.  I never did see what he did with all his belongings. Anyway I 
will be knitting this trip, maybe I should find a lacey pattern.
Janice

Laurie Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I took my knitting on board with me to England last December and back again
to Boston. No problems, they were Addi turbo's so were metal, but not long.

*Janice Blair
*Subject: [lace] travel restrictions
*
*
I also checked with the US Government
*Security web site to see if knitting needles are still allowed
*on internal flights and they are. Here is the web page for
*items allowed or not.


Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA

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[lace] Portland

2005-04-14 Thread Helen_Clarke
Hi,

If anyone on the list is a member of the Portland Lace Society (in Oregon, 
USA) then could they please contact me privately?

Thanks,

Helen ([EMAIL PROTECTED] in Vancouver, BC on the west coast of 
mainland Canada where the weather doesn't seem to know whether to be 
cloudy, sunny or rainy!)

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Re: [lace] overlap joins - Cluny

2005-04-14 Thread Alice Howell
At 12:23 AM 4/14/2005, you wrote:
Do these joins work well on heavy (thick thread) laces?
I'm working a Cluny pattern in Moravia 40 linen, and darning the ends in
unobtrusively is going to be a pain..

Sorry.  The book made a statement that overlapping was for continuous 
laces, not laces with continuous closed parts or Cluny laces where sewing 
in and tying off is preferable.  (Those were her descriptive words.)  The 
lassen sewing thread cannot jump over open spaces.

I haven't done Cluny but have done Russian, Idrijan and Hungarian.  Across 
a solid trail, one form of roll hitches has worked well  for me (method 13 
in "Practical Skills in Bobbin Lace" by Bridget Cook.)  You might study the 
various methods in Practical Skills.  There are several given.  Also, look 
in other books, such as Russian lace books, for trail lace methods.

Speak up now -- all you who have done Cluny.  What method worked best for you?
Alice in Oregon
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Re: [lace] Camilla's Hats and a quiet list

2005-04-14 Thread Jaqui Borg
Here here!! Glad someone else thinks the same as I do.
Good one Clay
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From: "Clay Blackwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pene Piip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; 
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: [lace] Camilla's Hats and a quiet list


Actually, the UK Lace Guild's convention would explain the silence from 
the
UK, but NOT the blissful silence from the US.  Meanwhile, I got dozens of
private emails thanking me for speaking out about ceasing the discussion
regarding the IOLI name change and taking it to Denver where it belonged.

But - alas - the subject appeared yet again this morning, so I suppose 
that
the delete key will just have to stay active!!

Meanwhile, I am impressed at the lack of interest on the part of the press
for the union of Prince Charles and "the rotweiller".  I laughed
uproariously at the descriptions of the feathered hats worn by the hoity
toity on Saturday, but on a search of the internet could only find one
picture of a guest - the daughter of the rotweiller - and the descriptions
were accurate!!  Incredible what some people do in the name of fashion.
Her "headdress" looked like a pile of undercooked fettucini nested on one
side of her head!!
OK - I've been naughty, but after their 35 years of "in your face"
misbehavior, that's small potatoes!!
Clay
Clay Blackwell
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[Original Message]
From: Pene Piip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; 
Date: 4/11/2005 7:19:55 PM
Subject: [lace] Camilla's Hats
Now I know why the list was quiet over the weekend - the
UK Lace Guild's convention was on. I hope someone will
report on the high-lights of the weekend. I suppose I can
read about when my magazine arrives. My I.O.L.I. Bulletin
has yet to arrive though.
Anyway, the weather here in Tartu was dreary both days.
DH surprised me by watching the live telecast of the Royal
Wedding all the way through. I finished knitting a scarf at
the same time. Camilla's first hat was described as being
a straw hat covered with French lace & it was quite elegant.
Then when she appeared at the chapel with what I would've
called "grass" instead of feathers I was a little disappointed.
I would have chosen something more befitting of a Duchess.
What did other viewers think?
I just hope that we see some sunshine this week. The snow
has all gone, & the crocuses & snow-bells are blooming.
Regards,
Penelope Piip
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City of Tartu, Estonia
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[lace] call for Brenda Paternoster

2005-04-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Brenda
I sent you a mail that couldn't be delivered so let's try it the other way 
round : could you send me a mail so i can check the address i used .
thanks ..

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RE: [lace] Lace books

2005-04-14 Thread Andrea Lamble
Greetings Spiders,
Another fairly comprehensive book on Tonder Lace is:
The Technique of Tonder Lace by Inge Skovgaard
No idea if its still in print - the copy I have was published by Batsford in 
1991.

Best wishes
Andrea
from Cambridge, UK where April Showers are promised later today.

Can anyone recommend a Tønder technique book?  I noticed that Karen Trend 
Nissen book 3 is Tønder lace, has anyone learnt from this one?  I'm not 
ready to start Tønder but it's on the back burner and looking through a 
book in advance works wonders when the time comes.

Greetings from Surrey, BC
Irene Whitham
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Re: [lace] overlap joins

2005-04-14 Thread Laceandbits
Do these joins work well on heavy (thick thread) 
laces?...As I want it to look good (it's a special present 
for friends), and wasn't 
happy with the way the first repeat or two turned out, making extra and 
overlapping sounds like a good idea,

No, not really.  It is traditionally used to do joins across the grounds such 
as Flanders where 4 pairs are used at a pin hole so the "stitch" at each pin 
has a lot of *body* to it and several sewing stiches work around the perimeter 
of the hole.  It probably wouldn't be strong enough, for example, on a 
point-ground ground as there is only the one cross movement and an uncovered 
pin.  
It would just pull apart.  

Problems with overlapping leaves and sewing round, apart from the bulk, will 
be is that they will both need to be identical in shape to be inconspicuous, 
and making sure the weaver is secure so the whole leaf doesn't unravel.   With 
plaits, it will probably be hard to keep them on-top-of each other rather than 
next-to (which would obviously show as it would then be twice as wide) and 
also anchoring all 8 ends so the plaits don't fray and fluff.

For your plaits and leaves type lace, take a look at Ulrike Lohr (+?)'s "The 
beginning of the end" where she shows how to finish leaves and plaits into the 
back of themself with a magic thread and then a hitched bundle.

Depending on how awful you think the start is, (and how many pairs and how 
much patience you have) it should be possible to cut the starting loops and 
un-lace to where you are happy with it, work the end of the lace until it 
matches 
and knot the matching ends together, *then* lose the ends into the back of the 
leaves and plaits (but in now in both directions as you have two sets of 
ends) as above 

Jacquie

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Re: [lace] overlap joins

2005-04-14 Thread beth
Do these joins work well on heavy (thick thread) laces?
I'm working a Cluny pattern in Moravia 40 linen, and darning the ends in 
unobtrusively is going to be a pain (there's no cloth stitch, apart from the 
footside it's entirely plaits and leaves). As I want it to look good (it's a 
special present for friends), and wasn't happy with the way the first repeat 
or two turned out, making extra and overlapping sounds like a good idea, 
particularly as I hate darning in the ends.
Beth

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Re: [lace] overlap joins

2005-04-14 Thread Laceandbits
If you plan carefully before you start, then the overlap can be a bit smaller 
than the (I think) suggested 4 repeats.  If you decide where you want to do 
the join, one repeat before at the start and one extra at the end gives plenty 
to be able to handle it.

The other advantages of this join that no-one has mentioned are a) that if 
you make mistakes at the start of the lace as you are learning the pattern, you 
work enough that this bit can be cut off.  b) If you want more than one piece 
of lace (as in a set of mats) then you can just keep working for as many times 
round plus the joining bits as you need to.  And finally, c) even if you are 
working different patterns, you don't need to rewind your bobbins and throw 
all the thread away because you can use bundles of single bobbins plaited to 
where you want to start.  

Jacquie

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