[Lift] Re: OSGi support for Lift

2009-05-12 Thread James Strachan

BTW speaking of PAX - I've found a nice easy way to test OSGI jars (as
its so easy to mess up the metadata) is to use Pax Exam to create
an OSGi integration test of your bundles against one or more OSGi
containers (e.g. Felix and Equinox), using the maven poms and the
Apache ServiceMix/Karaf plugin to deduce the versions of the
dependencies you're using to avoid hard coding them in your
integration test.

More details here:
http://macstrac.blogspot.com/2009/04/if-you-are-using-osgi-then-give-pax.html

2009/5/12 Alex Boisvert :
> Hi Heiko,
>
> Just a few basic questions
>
> I downloaded and ran PAX runner,
>
> ./pax-run.sh --profiles=log,scala,felix.webconsole,web
>
> then installed the examples-osgi bundle,
>
> -> install
> file:///home/boisvert/git/liftweb/sites/examples-osgi/hello/target/examples-osgi-hello-1.1-SNAPSHOT.jar
> Bundle ID: 9
> -> [FelixDispatchQueue] DEBUG net.liftweb.examples-osgi-hello - BundleEvent
> INSTALLED
> start 9
> -> [FelixDispatchQueue] DEBUG net.liftweb.examples-osgi-hello - BundleEvent
> RESOLVED
> [FelixDispatchQueue] DEBUG net.liftweb.examples-osgi-hello - BundleEvent
> STARTED
>
> Now how to I access the Lift app?   How does the servlet context get mapped
> onto Jetty?  It is normal there's no web.xml in this project?   (I can
> access the Felix admin console at http://localhost:8080/system/console)
>
> alex
>
> >
>



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[Lift] Re: using Lift templates stand alone inside other frameworks like JAXRS?

2009-05-14 Thread James Strachan

2009/5/13 David Pollak :
> Please see:
>
> S.render(NodeSeq, HttpServletRequest): NodeSeq

Awesome - huge thanks! :)

I was just about to post a patch I'd figured out to implement this in
a way less elegant way; you saved me the trouble :)

I've managed to use this API to provide a basic integration of Lift
templates and Jersey
http://github.com/jstrachan/liftweb/tree/master/lift-jersey

I'm still working on it to provide some better examples (and
navigation isn't quite working yet), but so far its working pretty
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[Lift] Re: using Lift templates stand alone inside other frameworks like JAXRS?

2009-05-15 Thread James Strachan

2009/5/14 David Pollak :
>
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:55 AM, James Strachan 
> wrote:
>>
>> 2009/5/13 David Pollak :
>> > Please see:
>> >
>> > S.render(NodeSeq, HttpServletRequest): NodeSeq
>>
>> Awesome - huge thanks! :)
>>
>> I was just about to post a patch I'd figured out to implement this in
>> a way less elegant way; you saved me the trouble :)
>>
>> I've managed to use this API to provide a basic integration of Lift
>> templates and Jersey
>> http://github.com/jstrachan/liftweb/tree/master/lift-jersey
>>
>> I'm still working on it to provide some better examples (and
>> navigation isn't quite working yet), but so far its working pretty
>> well!
>
> Cool.  Are you involved with Dan Kulp in your JAXRS work?

I work with Dan and know him well; but I hack on Jersey - I don't work on CXF.

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[Lift] Re: Session usage in Lift

2009-05-27 Thread James Strachan

If you were building an application which didn't require any COMET nor
needed any data stored in the session and you were happy to disable
the random form field name generation (so a form submission, due to
failover/load balancing could be processed by any servlet container in
the cluster) - would Lift still work in failover scenarios or would it
totally barf?

I understand that generating random names for things can be
troublesome (I can imagine the callbacks used in forms having similar
problems) - are there other bits of Lift that could cause issues? I'm
just wondering if Lift can ever be used in a share-nothing kinda
deployment, or if session replication is mandatory.

2009/5/27 marius d. :
>
>
> On May 27, 9:17 am, Kristinn  wrote:
>> Yes, I understand your confusion, however sometimes people make
>> designs that don't make much sense to others on first look (like
>> "using sessions for rendering all html"). But there are often good
>> reasons for these decisions (admittedly often these decisions are just
>> bad).
>>
>> In our case we only need the user id for each request, we wouldn't
>> have needed to store anything else in the session. So if we use cookie
>> to do the authentication, we don't need session replication nor sticky
>> loadbalancing. Therefore we have very efficient load balancing, fail-
>> over, and zero-downtime-deployments. You can take out any instance at
>> anytime without the user noticing a thing. Sorry, this sounds like I'm
>> trying to defend the design, I wasn't going to do that.
>>
>> btw. Why is the session used for rendering the html?
>
> Lift (like so many other frameworks) request processing & rendering
> phase happens in a stateful context meaning that it allows you out of
> the box to maintain state between requests. In this way you can
> seamlessly add COMET support a many other features without worrying
> about state etc. Also for Lift the users bound functions must be kept
> per session in order to work. So rendering markup is not as simple as
> it may appear as lots of things are correlated to that. if you have a
> completely static markup (plain HTML) then this markup should probably
> be served by a front-end static content.
>
>
>
>>
>> On May 26, 10:44 pm, David Pollak 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Kristinn 
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > > Thanks for your answer.
>>
>> > > I'm not sure what you'd like to know about the app.
>> > > It's an internal project, task and idea management application,
>> > > written in Java using the Stripes web framework, and Apache Lucene for
>> > > persistence.
>>
>> > > We use a cookie to authenticate the user, this is done on each
>> > > request.
>>
>> > So do you have content and access control that is specific to each use, but
>> > you're just not using the Servlet container's session mechanism?
>>
>> > Sorry for being confused.
>>
>> > > Is there anything in particular that you would like to know?
>>
>> > > On May 26, 10:00 pm, David Pollak 
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > At this point, Lift requires sessions for all HTML rendering.  It might
>> > > be
>> > > > possible to do something such that all the various requests share the
>> > > same
>> > > > session and there's no JSESSIONID and no need for stickiness.
>>
>> > > > Can you tell us a little more about your app?
>>
>> > > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kristinn <
>> > > kristinn.daniels...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > > > > Hi, I'm looking into migrating an existing application to Lift. This
>> > > > > application does not use sessions at all, and we do load balancing
>> > > > > without session stickiness. Now my question is: does Lift for some
>> > > > > reason require sessions on it's own? Or, would we have to switch to
>> > > > > load balancing with session stickiness?
>>
>> > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > Kristinn
>>
>> > > > --
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>> > > > Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
>> > > > Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp
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[Lift] Re: JTA Transaction Monad - Early Access Program

2009-06-10 Thread James Strachan

2009/6/9 Jonas Bonér :
>
> 2009/6/9 David Pollak :
>> Jonas,
>> We always use Maven to load dependencies.  We never use GPL dependencies.
>>  If you have a question about the license of a dependency and its use in
>> Lift, please ping me privately.
>
> I am using Maven. But as I said I could not find the Atomikos in any
> public library, putting them in lib will let the user easily install
> them in their local repo.
> Do you know if they are in any public repo?

If its any help I added them here a while back for an integration test
in ActiveMQ
http://repo.fusesource.com/maven2-all/com/atomikos/

the repo is: http://repo.fusesource.com/maven2-all/

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[Lift] mirroring the lift mailing list to nabble?

2009-07-07 Thread James Strachan

Just an idle thought. I wonder if folks wanted to mirror the mailing
list to nabble?

I mused on twitter today about the relative activity of the various
programming languages on nabble...
http://www.nabble.com/Programming-Languages-f13993.html

then Graham Rocher spotted that Ruby also included Rails in its total;
it turns out Python includes Django and PHP includes Zend & CakePHP
(though Groovy doesn't include Grails yet).

so I thought it might be interesting to get a vague feel of relative
community activity sizes if we added Lift as a group on nabble and
added it to the Scala and Web Development Framework sub groups

http://www.nabble.com/Web-Development-Framework-f16257.html
http://www.nabble.com/Scala-Programming-Language-f20934.html

Its pretty easy to sign up, IIRC you should be a list maintainer though.

No biggie though! :)

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[Lift] Re: mirroring the lift mailing list to nabble?

2009-07-07 Thread James Strachan

DOH! Didn't' think to search for liftweb! Its already there...

http://www.nabble.com/liftweb-f30586.html

its just not in any categories. Whoever's admin, fancy adding it to
Scala & Web Development Frameworks?

2009/7/7 James Strachan :
> Just an idle thought. I wonder if folks wanted to mirror the mailing
> list to nabble?
>
> I mused on twitter today about the relative activity of the various
> programming languages on nabble...
> http://www.nabble.com/Programming-Languages-f13993.html
>
> then Graham Rocher spotted that Ruby also included Rails in its total;
> it turns out Python includes Django and PHP includes Zend & CakePHP
> (though Groovy doesn't include Grails yet).
>
> so I thought it might be interesting to get a vague feel of relative
> community activity sizes if we added Lift as a group on nabble and
> added it to the Scala and Web Development Framework sub groups
>
> http://www.nabble.com/Web-Development-Framework-f16257.html
> http://www.nabble.com/Scala-Programming-Language-f20934.html
>
> Its pretty easy to sign up, IIRC you should be a list maintainer though.
>
> No biggie though! :)
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[Lift] Re: Jersey + Lift, whats the story?

2009-07-30 Thread James Strachan

2009/7/17 Timothy Perrett :
> Hey guys,
>
> I've been taking a look at Jersey and how it operates with Lift by way
> of the recent integration that cropped up on dev.java.net...

Though it did start here first! :)
http://www.nabble.com/using-Lift-templates-stand-alone-inside-other-frameworks-like-JAXRS--td23177478.html#a23558689

BTW it was only when there was lukewarm response on the fork I created
at github that I popped it into Jersey instead. Though David did most
of the heavy lifting hacking Lift to make templates reusable outside
of Lift's normal servlet+controller layer

 From my perspective, I see how having a standard RS service framework
> could be helpful, but it appears to bypass important lift concepts
> like SiteMap etc so I'm just wondering what the benefit of using such
> a layer would be over using DispatchPF etc to create REST services or
> serving xml fragments for templates? (I have no idea about Jersey
> apart from the basic docs ive read, so if im missing a major benefit
> id love to hear discuss)

As David said there are strengths and weaknesses to both approaches. I
see them as alternatives really; use one approach or the other or mix
them if required. My main motivation of the original Jersey <-> Lift
integration was to enable JAXRS folks to reuse Scala/Lift code for
templating instead of the joy that is JSP/JSP EL/JSTL/custom tag
files/(SiteMesh|Tiles).

I'd always assumed the SiteMap and JAXRS were kinda separate parts of
the URI space. Though having said that I've just noticed that using
Jersey + Lift trunk together in an application is currently broken
unless there is some kind of SiteMap defined :). I wonder if one day
we can kinda get Jersey to expose its own SiteMap (of sorts) into
Lift's SiteMap?

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[Lift] Re: Jersey + Lift, whats the story?

2009-07-30 Thread James Strachan

2009/7/30 James Strachan :
> 2009/7/17 Timothy Perrett :
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I've been taking a look at Jersey and how it operates with Lift by way
>> of the recent integration that cropped up on dev.java.net...
>
> Though it did start here first! :)
> http://www.nabble.com/using-Lift-templates-stand-alone-inside-other-frameworks-like-JAXRS--td23177478.html#a23558689
>
> BTW it was only when there was lukewarm response on the fork I created
> at github that I popped it into Jersey instead. Though David did most
> of the heavy lifting hacking Lift to make templates reusable outside
> of Lift's normal servlet+controller layer
>
>  From my perspective, I see how having a standard RS service framework
>> could be helpful, but it appears to bypass important lift concepts
>> like SiteMap etc so I'm just wondering what the benefit of using such
>> a layer would be over using DispatchPF etc to create REST services or
>> serving xml fragments for templates? (I have no idea about Jersey
>> apart from the basic docs ive read, so if im missing a major benefit
>> id love to hear discuss)
>
> As David said there are strengths and weaknesses to both approaches. I
> see them as alternatives really; use one approach or the other or mix
> them if required. My main motivation of the original Jersey <-> Lift
> integration was to enable JAXRS folks to reuse Scala/Lift code for
> templating instead of the joy that is JSP/JSP EL/JSTL/custom tag
> files/(SiteMesh|Tiles).
>
> I'd always assumed the SiteMap and JAXRS were kinda separate parts of
> the URI space. Though having said that I've just noticed that using
> Jersey + Lift trunk together in an application is currently broken
> unless there is some kind of SiteMap defined :).

Strike that - pilot error! I'd broken the web.xml in that application
to disable Jersey's filter, DOH :). Jersey + Lift works fine with
1.1-SNAPSHOT and 1.1-M3 of Lift.


> I wonder if one day
> we can kinda get Jersey to expose its own SiteMap (of sorts) into
> Lift's SiteMap?

It would certainly be useful to reuse Lift's Menu rendering when using
a Lift template to render a JAXRS resource bean; am sure that would
not be too hard to fix. We might want to support adding resource beans
to the menus too

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[Lift] any idea when we can cut a 1.1-M5 release?

2009-08-13 Thread James Strachan

Now that the APIs have changed to abstract the servlet stuff, I'd
really like a 1.1-M5 release. Anyone any objections to cutting one
soon?

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[Lift] Re: any idea when we can cut a 1.1-M5 release?

2009-08-13 Thread James Strachan

2009/8/13 Timothy Perrett :
>
>
> To what end? Not a lot of code has gone in since the 1.1-m4

I just wanna be able to use the new APIs (which avoid the explicit use
of servlets) without being on the bleeding edge. e.g. S.render()
changed to not take HttpServletRequest.


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[Lift] getting "mvn jetty:run" to reload changes to snippets

2009-04-17 Thread James Strachan

Hello Lifters!

BTW apologies in advance if this is an obvious newbie question - I did
a fair bit of searching on the list and saw JavaRebel discussions etc.

I've been taking my first baby steps with Scala/Lift (this Scala/Lift
malarkey is starting to grow on me) so I followed the getting started
guide. My first surprise (after using Rails/JSP etc) was hitting
reload on a browser after changing a snippet doesn't reload the
snippet code - you've gotta stop/restart mvn jetty:run. (Though
changing the template does).

I just wondered if someone had figured out the ninja to get the
jetty:run plugin to auto-detect snippet changes? This could well be a
tooling issue (e.g. when using eclipse with its incremental compiling
generating new class files might solve the problem) - I'm using IDEA
currently.

I did wonder if we could come up with a way to configure the jetty:run
plugin to do the right thing though irrespective of your IDE; using
the scala incremental compiler maybe? I tried adding a jetty custom
scan target to the pom...

  
org.mortbay.jetty
maven-jetty-plugin

  /
  1
  

  src/main/scala
  
**/*.scala
  

  

  

which forces a restart fine - but it doesn't know to recompile the
Scala code. So I'm wondering if we setup the scala compiler to auto
build the code to a classes directory that the jetty plugin can then
auto-detect and restart the web app?

I just wondered if others had hit this issue & come up with an elegant
solution; to force incremental compilation of the Scala class files -
or maybe I should just switch to eclipse?

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[Lift] using Lift templates stand alone inside other frameworks like JAXRS?

2009-04-22 Thread James Strachan

This might seem a truly bizarre request - particularly to folks who
solely use lift as their web framework; but I've been hacking up a
number of JAXRS services - I'm a big JAXRS fan (and slowly being drawn
to scala/lift).

I'd like to make Lift templates an option for any JAXRS developer
who's made a RESTful service and wants nice HTML/XML/Atom views using
Lift snippets etc. A thread recently started on the Jersey list btw...
http://n2.nabble.com/using-Lift-templates-with-Jersey-%28was-Re%3A--Jersey--custom--TemplateProcessor-not-having-its-constructor-injected-%29-td2675518.html

I've started hacking up a Jersey TemplateProcessor to wire in Lift
templates using implicit views; I can grab the template using Lift's
TemplateFinder fine - but I've just not got enough Lift implementation
knowledge yet to figure out how to render it :). I tried using
LiftServlet but thats a bit of a hack and it tends to just return the
template itself (since I'm not using Lifts mapping of URIs to requests
etc) - I kinda need to go in somewhere in between the two :)

FWIW I'm imagining two possible options

(i) folks write Java Resource Beans for JAXRS then wire Lift templates
using the @ImplictProvides mechanism to hook a resource bean to the
Lift template

(ii) folks create markup - or template instantiations within their
JAXRS beans written in Scala then there's no need for the
@ImplicitProvides hook. e.g.

@Path("/bar")
class MyResource {

  @GET
  @Produces(Array("text/html"))
  def view() = Hello World!

  ...

  @POST
  def foo(form: SomeBean) = {...}
}

In either case, I need some little hook to be able to take a
Box[NodeSeq] and pass it to Lift to render it using the standard lift
tags + snippets etc.

This could be a gentle way to get folks gradually hooked on
Scala/Lift; gradually moving from Java/JSP to Scala/Lift for
templates, then resource beans etc. (Changing web frameworks is often
a big decision to make, though switching out JSP and using Lift
templates is a kinda no brainer... :)

I wondered if any Lift ninja's could give me some hints at a clean way
to do this?

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[Lift] Re: getting "mvn jetty:run" to reload changes to snippets

2009-04-22 Thread James Strachan

2009/4/17 David Pollak :
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:00 AM, James Strachan 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Lifters!
>>
>> BTW apologies in advance if this is an obvious newbie question - I did
>> a fair bit of searching on the list and saw JavaRebel discussions etc.
>>
>> I've been taking my first baby steps with Scala/Lift (this Scala/Lift
>> malarkey is starting to grow on me) so I followed the getting started
>> guide. My first surprise (after using Rails/JSP etc) was hitting
>> reload on a browser after changing a snippet doesn't reload the
>> snippet code - you've gotta stop/restart mvn jetty:run. (Though
>> changing the template does).
>>
>> I just wondered if someone had figured out the ninja to get the
>> jetty:run plugin to auto-detect snippet changes? This could well be a
>> tooling issue (e.g. when using eclipse with its incremental compiling
>> generating new class files might solve the problem) - I'm using IDEA
>> currently.
>>
>> I did wonder if we could come up with a way to configure the jetty:run
>> plugin to do the right thing though irrespective of your IDE; using
>> the scala incremental compiler maybe? I tried adding a jetty custom
>> scan target to the pom...
>>
>>      
>>        org.mortbay.jetty
>>        maven-jetty-plugin
>>        
>>          /
>>          1
>>          
>>            
>>              src/main/scala
>>              
>>                **/*.scala
>>              
>>            
>>          
>>        
>>      
>>
>> which forces a restart fine - but it doesn't know to recompile the
>> Scala code. So I'm wondering if we setup the scala compiler to auto
>> build the code to a classes directory that the jetty plugin can then
>> auto-detect and restart the web app?
>
> This command line will keep the class files up to date.  Using JavaRebel is
> better than having Jetty reload the classes and Jetty will destroy sessions
> on reload.
>
> mvn scala:cc

Many thanks, that worked a treat.

For those following this thread; the instructions here worked a treat...
http://wiki.liftweb.net/index.php?title=JavaRebel

in one shell I run "mvn jetty:run" then in another I run "mvn
scala:cc" and it works like a charm!

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[Lift] Re: using Lift templates stand alone inside other frameworks like JAXRS?

2009-04-22 Thread James Strachan

2009/4/22 David Pollak :
> James,
>
> This is an interesting idea that more than one person has expressed
> excitement about.  Jorge Ortiz (one of the Lift committers) was puttering
> around with the separation of Lift's templating from the rest of Lift.
> Personally, I think it's a pretty daunting task because a lot of the ways
> that Lift looks for templates and does its wiring and looks for snippets and
> generally re-writes the XML (e.g., to insert the Comet JavaScript), is woven
> tightly with the rest of Lift (e.g., LiftRules, LiftSession, etc.)
>
> I am in favor of something like this happening, but I really think it's
> non-trivial.
>
> Perhaps... just perhaps... we could do something where we put Java wrappers
> around some of the Lift-isms and use Lift as Filter in Java apps.  If you'd
> care to fork the Lift repository on GitHub and recruit a few others to help
> you, this could be an interesting side-project that, if successful, I could
> see as part of the main Lift distribution.

Cool thanks.

BTW I don't much mind about ripping the template stuff out of Lift
into a separate piece - I am totally happy to have
LiftRules/LiftSession, Comet et al there and to keep Lift intact.

I guess all I really want is a way to render a NodeSeq which can
contain  and other arbitrary snippets inside. So all I
really want is another entry point into Lift other than the
filter/servlet where somehow I can do something like this...

LiftServlet.render(xhtml:NodeSeq, out:OutputStream)

which delves into the internal Lift stuff I don't grok in between
LiftServlet and TemplateFinder and does all that cool magic :) I could
pass in a servletRequest/response too if that'd help make the
implementation easier. I realise this could be tricky though with all
that ajax stuff etc.


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[Lift] Re: using Lift templates stand alone inside other frameworks like JAXRS?

2009-04-22 Thread James Strachan

2009/4/22 David Pollak :
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 9:16 AM, James Strachan 
> wrote:
>>
>> 2009/4/22 David Pollak :
>> > James,
>> >
>> > This is an interesting idea that more than one person has expressed
>> > excitement about.  Jorge Ortiz (one of the Lift committers) was
>> > puttering
>> > around with the separation of Lift's templating from the rest of Lift.
>> > Personally, I think it's a pretty daunting task because a lot of the
>> > ways
>> > that Lift looks for templates and does its wiring and looks for snippets
>> > and
>> > generally re-writes the XML (e.g., to insert the Comet JavaScript), is
>> > woven
>> > tightly with the rest of Lift (e.g., LiftRules, LiftSession, etc.)
>> >
>> > I am in favor of something like this happening, but I really think it's
>> > non-trivial.
>> >
>> > Perhaps... just perhaps... we could do something where we put Java
>> > wrappers
>> > around some of the Lift-isms and use Lift as Filter in Java apps.  If
>> > you'd
>> > care to fork the Lift repository on GitHub and recruit a few others to
>> > help
>> > you, this could be an interesting side-project that, if successful, I
>> > could
>> > see as part of the main Lift distribution.
>>
>> Cool thanks.
>>
>> BTW I don't much mind about ripping the template stuff out of Lift
>> into a separate piece - I am totally happy to have
>> LiftRules/LiftSession, Comet et al there and to keep Lift intact.
>>
>> I guess all I really want is a way to render a NodeSeq which can
>> contain  and other arbitrary snippets inside. So all I
>> really want is another entry point into Lift other than the
>> filter/servlet where somehow I can do something like this...
>>
>> LiftServlet.render(xhtml:NodeSeq, out:OutputStream)
>
> Would:
>
> LiftServlet.render(xhtml:NodeSeq, httpRequest: HttpServletRequest):
> LiftResponse
>
> work along with helper methods to stream a LiftResponse out to an
> OutputStream work?

That would be perfect, yes please! :)

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[Lift] Re: Feedback on screen cast, please

2009-04-27 Thread James Strachan

Great stuff!

The only thing I can think of that could be improved is maybe
mentioning the JavaRebel stuff; when seeing Rails demos, there's no
stop-start-wait-30 seconds type stuff while maven does its thing -
maybe in the next screen cast the JavaRebel stuff could be shown so
that the same rails-ish RADness is possible.

2009/4/25 David Pollak :
> I've posted it at blip.tv:
>
> http://liftweb.blip.tv
>
> It seems to have good audio synchronization.
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Derek Chen-Becker 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm. VLC on Linux worked fine viewing it for me.
>>
>> Derek
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Warren Henning
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:50 AM, David Pollak
>>>  wrote:
>>> > I'd like to get some critical feedback on it so I can improve it.
>>>
>>> I'm short on criticism - this was really cool.
>>>
>>> You might want to comment on how much compile time there is when
>>> you're rapidly updating a Lift application so people don't think you
>>> spend half your development time waiting for the computer or
>>> something.
>>>
>>> I'd like to note that for some reason when I opened the machine on my
>>> default media viewer, the video didn't work right although audio was
>>> fine - VLC 0.8.6e, Windows XP SP2. Opening in QuickTime worked fine
>>> though.
>>>
>>> Warren
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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[Lift] [patch] work around for errors running unit tests in IDEA/NetBeans

2009-04-28 Thread James Strachan

I was trying out various IDEs to run the unit tests in the lift-webkit
module and was getting errors. I guess due to recent changes in scala
language version?

Here's the trivial patch that fixes it - it seems reflection on the
continuation stuff was no longer working
http://github.com/jstrachan/liftweb/commit/2ca3b683733969bd8689e36dad99a990711b4071

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[Lift] Re: [Lift committers] A Groovy welcome to James Strachan who has joined the Lift committers

2010-02-08 Thread James Strachan
On 8 February 2010 17:16, David Pollak  wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I'm wicked pleased that James Strachan has joined the Lift committers.  I'm
> looking forward to the cool stuff that James will add to Lift.
>
> Please join me in welcoming James!

Thanks David!

Now I just hope I can actually find something interesting to
contribute after that welcome :)

The first thing I was pondering about was a way of easily using
Scalate templates if folks wanted to use, say, Scaml (like a Scala
version of HAML) instead of the usual XML template files in Lift...

http://scalate.fusesource.org/

I know template engines can be like IDEs - very personal things and
I'm totally happy for folks to use whatever template engine/markup
floats their boat - I just figured a bit more choice for lifters might
be a good thing?

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[Lift] Re: [Lift committers] A Groovy welcome to James Strachan who has joined the Lift committers

2010-02-09 Thread James Strachan
Just bringing this thread that drifted off onto the committers list back here...

On 8 February 2010 18:58, Naftoli Gugenheim  wrote:
> Welcome!
> Out of curiosity, what are the advantages of this other templating engine?

Probably the Haml site describes it quite well (see the showdown at
the bottom)...
http://haml-lang.com/

basically its a very concise way of making markup - though its a
different kind of templating engine to the one in lift where there is
no code at all in a template and you bind via reflection XML elements
to functions which then replace elements with values or apply other
transformations etc.

I've used lots of different template engines over the years; they seem
to all have strengths and weaknesses - it mostly depends on what the
make up & skills of the team is & how the team work with web designers
etc. If I'm on a project where I don't have to chuck templates over a
wall to be edited by a web designer I find the Scaml approach a little
easier on my brain & fingers with the cost that there's no IDE to
render it other than the actual web browser and there's code in the
template which can be viewed as a bad thing - YMMV though.

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