Re: Sendmail Masquerading Question

2002-02-14 Thread Ian

Stew Benedict wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Ian wrote:
> 
> > I think it was either Kurt or you who said to add
> >
> > set hostname = marchak.homeip.net
> >
> > to my .muttrc file...which I did.  But when mail arrives at the other
> > end, mutt has changed it to marchak.homeip.net, but there's something in
> > the header, I think it's the fact that in the header of the email
> > contains
> >
> > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > is what is causing the other servers to reject because a direct cut and
> > paste of the From info (from the same header) is
> >
> > From: Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> 
> You need to setup masquerading for the envelope and the header, and you
> can also use genericstable to rewrite the From:.  If you take a look at
> Linux Journal's site there's a wrieup I did on a sendmail setup like this
> that I've used successfully at a manufacturing plant where several folks
> were masqued behind one internet account.

I've tucked away yours and David's posts...will have a look-see tonight.

I think the link is: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4539 in
case anyone else is interested.

>  I do the same thing here and
> run 4 seperate accounts for my various identitities.

You know, a few trips to a good doctor, and you can maybe whittle it
down to one identity. ;-)

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Re: Sendmail Masquerading Question

2002-02-14 Thread Stew Benedict


On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Ian wrote:

> I think it was either Kurt or you who said to add
> 
> set hostname = marchak.homeip.net
> 
> to my .muttrc file...which I did.  But when mail arrives at the other
> end, mutt has changed it to marchak.homeip.net, but there's something in
> the header, I think it's the fact that in the header of the email
> contains
> 
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> is what is causing the other servers to reject because a direct cut and
> paste of the From info (from the same header) is
> 
> From: Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 

You need to setup masquerading for the envelope and the header, and you
can also use genericstable to rewrite the From:.  If you take a look at 
Linux Journal's site there's a wrieup I did on a sendmail setup like this
that I've used successfully at a manufacturing plant where several folks
were masqued behind one internet account.  I do the same thing here and
run 4 seperate accounts for my various identitities.

If you need more details, holler.

Stew Benedict

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Re: Sendmail Masquerading Question

2002-02-14 Thread David A. Bandel

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:43:41 -0500
begin  Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth:

[snip]
> 
> But no matter what combination of DM / CM / CG (shooting wildly at then
> end) I cannot prevent it from mailing out [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I
> send from the sendmail box.  Which of course bounces as domain doesn't
> exist.

Remove the CG item(s).  You need:
DMmarchak.ca
FEATURE(masquerade_envelope) (this goes in your .mc file, then rebuild w/
m4)

you can always test:
sendmail -bt
/tryflags hs
/try esmtp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/try local [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(all should resolve completely (and finally) to [EMAIL PROTECTED])

D to quit.

Ciao,

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Re: Sendmail Masquerading Question

2002-02-13 Thread Joel Hammer

I do the same as you. But, I use mutt, which puts on the proper world accessible
address (hammershome.com) instead of my private network name jhammer.org
(which also exists on the net but its not mine.) All my mail is composed and
sent on my box which runs sendmail and also serves as the firewall. Do you
think mine works because by serendipity jhammer.org exists in the real
world, too?
Joel

On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 10:43:41PM -0500, Ian wrote:
> OK,
> Followed Doug's SxS step and produced in about an hour or less, a fully
> functioning sendmail.  All but the tweaking...which has turned out to
> be far less satisfying.
> 
> >From mail clients on other hosts on my home network, email composed in
> say
> netscape goes out with the From values set (in netscape) staying as is,
> and all seems to be working OK.
> 
> Whenever I send mail from the sendmail machine, which is behind a
> firewall w/ port forwarding, the address is always [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> which only exists in my little network...although I have the marchak.ca
> domain hosted outside, the only official/external NS records are
> www.marchak.ca and marchak.ca.
> 
> So, domain masquerading sounded like what I was looking for.  I have a
> domain through dyndns.org, which I put in /etc/mail/local-host-names and
> I can accept mail for marchak.homeip.net...cool.  What I wanted to do
> was have mail sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which is what it would be
> when I am logged in locally to the box with sendmail running) to be
> changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I have a imaps server running and I want to have all my mail bounced to
> sent to marchak.homeip.net so I can do away with outside web mail and
> just run my services myself...so I have no mailbox size limits except
> the ones I put on myself...and because I can.
> 
> But no matter what combination of DM / CM / CG (shooting wildly at then
> end) I cannot prevent it from mailing out [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I
> send from the sendmail box.  Which of course bounces as domain doesn't
> exist.
> 
> Can someone more sage in sendmail shed some light on my dim little
> picnic?
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Sendmail Masquerading Question

2002-02-13 Thread Ian

OK,

Followed Doug's SxS step and produced in about an hour or less, a fully
functioning sendmail.  All but the tweaking...which has turned out to
be far less satisfying.

>From mail clients on other hosts on my home network, email composed in
say
netscape goes out with the From values set (in netscape) staying as is,
and all seems to be working OK.

Whenever I send mail from the sendmail machine, which is behind a
firewall w/ port forwarding, the address is always [EMAIL PROTECTED]
which only exists in my little network...although I have the marchak.ca
domain hosted outside, the only official/external NS records are
www.marchak.ca and marchak.ca.

So, domain masquerading sounded like what I was looking for.  I have a
domain through dyndns.org, which I put in /etc/mail/local-host-names and
I can accept mail for marchak.homeip.net...cool.  What I wanted to do
was have mail sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which is what it would be
when I am logged in locally to the box with sendmail running) to be
changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have a imaps server running and I want to have all my mail bounced to
sent to marchak.homeip.net so I can do away with outside web mail and
just run my services myself...so I have no mailbox size limits except
the ones I put on myself...and because I can.

But no matter what combination of DM / CM / CG (shooting wildly at then
end) I cannot prevent it from mailing out [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I
send from the sendmail box.  Which of course bounces as domain doesn't
exist.

Can someone more sage in sendmail shed some light on my dim little
picnic?
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Re: Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1)

2002-02-10 Thread Jean Sagi

El Dom 10 Feb 2002 15:16, escribió:

> On Saturday 09 February 2002 08:36 pm, Jean Sagi warbled:
> > Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1
> > cd's?
>
> I would be a matter of looking at each cd under kernel. However at this

yep!

> site http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/mandrake8.1/kernel/
>
> You can download the latest mandrake version of kernel 2.4.17 full source
> file or the rpm version.

In the process of doing so...


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Re: Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1)

2002-02-09 Thread Keith Antoine

On Saturday 09 February 2002 08:36 pm, Jean Sagi warbled:
> Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1 cd's?

I would be a matter of looking at each cd under kernel. However at this site 
http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/mandrake8.1/kernel/

You can download the latest mandrake version of kernel 2.4.17 full source 
file or the rpm version.

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Re: Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1)

2002-02-09 Thread Jean Sagi

El Sáb 09 Feb 2002 21:56, escribió:

Good idea... but for today is enough... 22:59 local time...

And getting 2.4.17 by a 56k modem...

... others days need work too... ;)



> I'd strongly recommend downloading the latest stable kernel source
> (2.4.17) from kernel.org and building that.
>
> --- Jean Sagi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1
> > cd's?
> >
> > I used the software manager to find and install them but i cannot find
> > them.
> > I don´t know if it's some package i have to install, or they just dont
> >
> > come in any
> > of the three cd's.
> >
> > I read the kernel-howto, but I just says to get linux-x.y.z files from
> >
> > some urls
> > and it follows with the process of recompiling the kernel...
> >
> > I need them, not to recompile a new kernel. Just need source file
> > (headers maybe)
> > to compile the modules for install a PC-TEL winmodem my uncle has.
> > I´m following the steps of  Jan Stifter I found on Llama's SxS for 2.4
> >
> > kernels and it states
> > that you have to run ./configure with two parameters:
> >
> > --with-hal=pct789(Uncle's modem chipset )
> >
> > --with-kernel-includes=/path/to/my/kernel-sources/include
> > If you don't have your kernel sources at /usr/src/linux, specifiy
> > your includes...
> >
> > That's it idon´t have them!!
>
> =
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Re: Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1) [SOLVED]

2002-02-09 Thread Jean Sagi

El Sáb 09 Feb 2002 21:44, escribió:

Funny...

kernel-headers was installed, but kernel source was not... and
urpmi didn't noticed. Trying to find with keyword kernel doesn`t 
show anything...

rpm -i kernel-source 

installed ok!

./configure
make
make install

modprobe ...
insmod ...

and voila!

PC-TEL working on LInux!!



> Tnx! a lot,
>
> I'll try it inmediatly.
>
> Chucho!
>
> Peter Ruskin wrote:
> >On Sunday 10 Feb 2002 01:36, Jean Sagi wrote:
> >>Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1
> >>cd's?
> >>
> >>I used the software manager to find and install them but i cannot find
> >>them. I don´t know if it's some package i have to install, or they just
> >>dont come in any
> >>of the three cd's.
> >>
> >>I read the kernel-howto, but I just says to get linux-x.y.z files from
> >>some urls
> >>and it follows with the process of recompiling the kernel...
> >>
> >>I need them, not to recompile a new kernel. Just need source file
> >>(headers maybe)
> >>to compile the modules for install a PC-TEL winmodem my uncle has.
> >>I´m following the steps of  Jan Stifter I found on Llama's SxS for 2.4
> >>kernels and it states
> >>that you have to run ./configure with two parameters:
> >>
> >>--with-hal=pct789(Uncle's modem chipset )
> >>
> >>--with-kernel-includes=/path/to/my/kernel-sources/include
> >>If you don't have your kernel sources at /usr/src/linux, specifiy
> >>your includes...
> >>
> >>That's it idon´t have them!!
> >>
> >>
> >>Any help would be very appreciated.
> >
> >kernel-source-2.4.8-26mdk.i586.rpm is on CD2
> >kernel-headers-2.4.8-26mdk.i586.rpm is on CD1
>
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Re: Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1)

2002-02-09 Thread Net Llama

I'd strongly recommend downloading the latest stable kernel source
(2.4.17) from kernel.org and building that.

--- Jean Sagi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1
> cd's?
> 
> I used the software manager to find and install them but i cannot find
> them.
> I don´t know if it's some package i have to install, or they just dont
> 
> come in any
> of the three cd's.
> 
> I read the kernel-howto, but I just says to get linux-x.y.z files from
> 
> some urls
> and it follows with the process of recompiling the kernel...
> 
> I need them, not to recompile a new kernel. Just need source file 
> (headers maybe)
> to compile the modules for install a PC-TEL winmodem my uncle has.
> I´m following the steps of  Jan Stifter I found on Llama's SxS for 2.4
> 
> kernels and it states
> that you have to run ./configure with two parameters:
> 
> --with-hal=pct789(Uncle's modem chipset )
> 
> --with-kernel-includes=/path/to/my/kernel-sources/include
> If you don't have your kernel sources at /usr/src/linux, specifiy
> your includes...
> 
> That's it idon´t have them!!

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Re: Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1)

2002-02-09 Thread Jean Sagi

Tnx! a lot,

I'll try it inmediatly.

Chucho!

Peter Ruskin wrote:

>On Sunday 10 Feb 2002 01:36, Jean Sagi wrote:
>
>>Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1
>>cd's?
>>
>>I used the software manager to find and install them but i cannot find
>>them. I don´t know if it's some package i have to install, or they just
>>dont come in any
>>of the three cd's.
>>
>>I read the kernel-howto, but I just says to get linux-x.y.z files from
>>some urls
>>and it follows with the process of recompiling the kernel...
>>
>>I need them, not to recompile a new kernel. Just need source file
>>(headers maybe)
>>to compile the modules for install a PC-TEL winmodem my uncle has.
>>I´m following the steps of  Jan Stifter I found on Llama's SxS for 2.4
>>kernels and it states
>>that you have to run ./configure with two parameters:
>>
>>--with-hal=pct789(Uncle's modem chipset )
>>
>>--with-kernel-includes=/path/to/my/kernel-sources/include
>>If you don't have your kernel sources at /usr/src/linux, specifiy
>>your includes...
>>
>>That's it idon´t have them!!
>>
>>
>>Any help would be very appreciated.
>>
>kernel-source-2.4.8-26mdk.i586.rpm is on CD2
>kernel-headers-2.4.8-26mdk.i586.rpm is on CD1
>



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Re: Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1)

2002-02-09 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Sunday 10 Feb 2002 01:36, Jean Sagi wrote:
> Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1
> cd's?
>
> I used the software manager to find and install them but i cannot find
> them. I don´t know if it's some package i have to install, or they just
> dont come in any
> of the three cd's.
>
> I read the kernel-howto, but I just says to get linux-x.y.z files from
> some urls
> and it follows with the process of recompiling the kernel...
>
> I need them, not to recompile a new kernel. Just need source file
> (headers maybe)
> to compile the modules for install a PC-TEL winmodem my uncle has.
> I´m following the steps of  Jan Stifter I found on Llama's SxS for 2.4
> kernels and it states
> that you have to run ./configure with two parameters:
>
> --with-hal=pct789(Uncle's modem chipset )
>
> --with-kernel-includes=/path/to/my/kernel-sources/include
> If you don't have your kernel sources at /usr/src/linux, specifiy
> your includes...
>
> That's it idon´t have them!!
>
>
> Any help would be very appreciated.
>
kernel-source-2.4.8-26mdk.i586.rpm is on CD2
kernel-headers-2.4.8-26mdk.i586.rpm is on CD1

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Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1)

2002-02-09 Thread Jean Sagi

Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1 cd's?

I used the software manager to find and install them but i cannot find them.
I don´t know if it's some package i have to install, or they just dont 
come in any
of the three cd's.

I read the kernel-howto, but I just says to get linux-x.y.z files from 
some urls
and it follows with the process of recompiling the kernel...

I need them, not to recompile a new kernel. Just need source file 
(headers maybe)
to compile the modules for install a PC-TEL winmodem my uncle has.
I´m following the steps of  Jan Stifter I found on Llama's SxS for 2.4 
kernels and it states
that you have to run ./configure with two parameters:

--with-hal=pct789(Uncle's modem chipset )

--with-kernel-includes=/path/to/my/kernel-sources/include
If you don't have your kernel sources at /usr/src/linux, specifiy
your includes...

That's it idon´t have them!!


Any help would be very appreciated.


Chucho!




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Re: Printing question

2002-02-09 Thread Joel Hammer

Does the print file generation take a long time on the linux server or is
the slowness in the transfer to the printer?
You could just change lp=/tmp/outfile and time the output.
You would first have to touch /tmp/outfile and run checkpc -f.
Joel

> After observing the behavior with top, it appears that the "pagination"
> is occurring back at the ghostscript level.  Any idea how to alter this
> behavior?  Cups doesn't appear to have any customizing options - only
> choice of dithering, page size, and banners.  The cups admin menu
> doesn't have any options that I can find, either.  laserjet 100 is a
> selectable option under cups admin, but I didn't see any options there
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Re: Printing question

2002-02-09 Thread Collins

On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:41:44 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:>  This sort of sounds like a memory problem. Knowing nothing, I
would venture> that there may be a misunderstanding between your printer
and your server> over how much memory is available on the printer
(making most of this up.)> Also, what does top show during this long
printing job?> Can you just dump a postscript job to this printer?
> Or, can you first filter the job into a file, watching how long it
takes,> and then just cat the file to the printer?
> Joel
> On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 12:17:30PM -0500, Keith Antoine wrote:
> e
> > On Thursday 07 February 2002 08:39 pm, Collins warbled:
> > > Is the following action
> > >
> > > a) typical of unix printing in general
> > > b) typical of cups
> > > c) typical of ghostscript interpreting ps for a laserjet
> > > d) result of screwed up config options
> > >
> > > Whenever I print something that is longer that a page or two, the
> > > printing trickles to the printer in page bursts, ie deliver a page
to> > > the printer, delay, deliver another page to the printer.  On
Windows the> > > entire data stream gets dumped to the printer, and
printing is> > > continuous.
> > 
> > All I can say Collins is I use cups and its no different to Windows
style > > printing.

After observing the behavior with top, it appears that the "pagination"
is occurring back at the ghostscript level.  Any idea how to alter this
behavior?  Cups doesn't appear to have any customizing options - only
choice of dithering, page size, and banners.  The cups admin menu
doesn't have any options that I can find, either.  laserjet 100 is a
selectable option under cups admin, but I didn't see any options there
either.


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Re: Header include question

2002-02-09 Thread Rick Sivernell

Mike

 The problem was not the library, I have LD_LIB set.,
it is the older stl headers being called before the STLport 
header with the sane name ie. & on. I
have been using kdevelop 2, a real pig, & I do not consider 
very good at all. Their build files have everything in them
whether they are used or not. Making simple make file is 
not hard, they have made a feast of it.
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Re: Header include question

2002-02-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 06:04, Kurt Wall wrote:
> On, Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:34:03 -0600, Rick Sivernell typed:
>
> [mondo snippage]
>Kurt
> > I understand, I have a handle on it now.
> > I just knew you were the one to ask. I really
> > appreciate your help Thank you.
>

Or, you could try the Kurtwerks(tm) all stars bobby dazzler. It saved me, the 
universe, made coffee and washed the dishes

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="some damn path"

It was *after* this bit of Kurwerks(tm) advice that I discovered I didn't 
need to fiddle with -I -i --nostdinc etc.

My only complaint is that Kurt could have told me about it before I asked.

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Re: Printing question

2002-02-07 Thread Collins

On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:41:44 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:>  This sort of sounds like a memory problem. Knowing nothing, I
would venture> that there may be a misunderstanding between your printer
and your server> over how much memory is available on the printer
(making most of this up.)> Also, what does top show during this long
printing job?> Can you just dump a postscript job to this printer?
> Or, can you first filter the job into a file, watching how long it
takes,> and then just cat the file to the printer?
> Joel

Good thoughts.  I'll try when I have a chance.

> On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 12:17:30PM -0500, Keith Antoine wrote:
> e
> > On Thursday 07 February 2002 08:39 pm, Collins warbled:
> > > Is the following action
> > >
> > > a) typical of unix printing in general
> > > b) typical of cups
> > > c) typical of ghostscript interpreting ps for a laserjet
> > > d) result of screwed up config options
> > >
> > > Whenever I print something that is longer that a page or two, the
> > > printing trickles to the printer in page bursts, ie deliver a page
to> > > the printer, delay, deliver another page to the printer.  On
Windows the> > > entire data stream gets dumped to the printer, and
printing is> > > continuous.
> > 
> > All I can say Collins is I use cups and its no different to Windows
style > > printing.
> > 
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Re: Printing question

2002-02-07 Thread Joel Hammer

 This sort of sounds like a memory problem. Knowing nothing, I would venture
that there may be a misunderstanding between your printer and your server
over how much memory is available on the printer (making most of this up.)
Also, what does top show during this long printing job?
Can you just dump a postscript job to this printer?
Or, can you first filter the job into a file, watching how long it takes,
and then just cat the file to the printer?
Joel
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 12:17:30PM -0500, Keith Antoine wrote:
e
> On Thursday 07 February 2002 08:39 pm, Collins warbled:
> > Is the following action
> >
> > a) typical of unix printing in general
> > b) typical of cups
> > c) typical of ghostscript interpreting ps for a laserjet
> > d) result of screwed up config options
> >
> > Whenever I print something that is longer that a page or two, the
> > printing trickles to the printer in page bursts, ie deliver a page to
> > the printer, delay, deliver another page to the printer.  On Windows the
> > entire data stream gets dumped to the printer, and printing is
> > continuous.
> 
> All I can say Collins is I use cups and its no different to Windows style 
> printing.
> 
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Re: Printing question

2002-02-07 Thread Michael Hipp

Same for me. CUPS works great.

Michael

Keith Antoine pontificated eloquently:
> On Thursday 07 February 2002 08:39 pm, Collins warbled:
> > Is the following action
> >
> > a) typical of unix printing in general
> > b) typical of cups
> > c) typical of ghostscript interpreting ps for a laserjet
> > d) result of screwed up config options
> >
> > Whenever I print something that is longer that a page or two, the
> > printing trickles to the printer in page bursts, ie deliver a page to
> > the printer, delay, deliver another page to the printer.  On Windows
> > the entire data stream gets dumped to the printer, and printing is
> > continuous.
>
> All I can say Collins is I use cups and its no different to Windows style
> printing.
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Re: Printing question

2002-02-07 Thread Keith Antoine

On Thursday 07 February 2002 08:39 pm, Collins warbled:
> Is the following action
>
> a) typical of unix printing in general
> b) typical of cups
> c) typical of ghostscript interpreting ps for a laserjet
> d) result of screwed up config options
>
> Whenever I print something that is longer that a page or two, the
> printing trickles to the printer in page bursts, ie deliver a page to
> the printer, delay, deliver another page to the printer.  On Windows the
> entire data stream gets dumped to the printer, and printing is
> continuous.

All I can say Collins is I use cups and its no different to Windows style 
printing.

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Printing question

2002-02-07 Thread Collins

Is the following action

a) typical of unix printing in general
b) typical of cups
c) typical of ghostscript interpreting ps for a laserjet
d) result of screwed up config options

Whenever I print something that is longer that a page or two, the
printing trickles to the printer in page bursts, ie deliver a page to
the printer, delay, deliver another page to the printer.  On Windows the
entire data stream gets dumped to the printer, and printing is
continuous.

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Re: Header include question

2002-02-06 Thread Kurt Wall

On, Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:34:03 -0600, Rick Sivernell typed:

[mondo snippage]

> I understand, I have a handle on it now.
> I just knew you were the one to ask. I really
> appreciate your help Thank you.

Glad to help.

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Re: Header include question

2002-02-06 Thread Rick Sivernell

On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:32:44 -0500
Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Scribbling feverishly on February 06, Rick Sivernell managed to emit:
> > On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 07:58:04 -0500
> > Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Scribbling feverishly on February 05, Rick Sivernell managed to emit:
> > > > List / Kurt if he is there
> > > > 
> > > >   I am having a small problem. I have the old stl headers being used 
> > > > before the new version. Would like to know if there is a enviro var that
> > > > is set with the -I include files. I have a envir variables set & set into
> > > > my path but they are not seen unless they have no file by that name
> > > > anywhere else.
> > > > 
> > > >   Any ideas how to get arounf this?
> > > 
> > > I don't really understand what the problem is.
> > > 
> > > Kurt
> > > -- 
> > Kurt
> > 
> >The header files and there sub directory files are not seen, if there is a
> > corresponding file in the oldder header files in /usr/.. In Windows there
> > is a envirment variable to set paths for headers. That way certain headers
> > will be seen before others. Is there something similar in Linux/Unix. Or do I
> > need to move my stlport stl library to /usr.
> 
> Okay, now I understand. -I /some/dir should place specified headers
> at the front of the list; that is, the standard headers should be
> searched *after* directories specified with -I. However, you have to
> use -I- *before* -I because -I only looks for #include "foo.h", not
> for #include . Bear in mind that -I directories are scanned
> left to right. 
> 
> You might also find it useful to use the -nostdinc option, which
> turns off searching the standard system directories for include
> files. The downside to this should be clear, though.
> 
> Finally, use the -H option to tell GCC to print the names of the
> header files it is using.
> 
> For more infomation, have a look at the "Preprocessor Options" and
> the"Directory Options" nodes of the GCC info file.
> 
> Kurt
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I understand, I have a handle on it now.
> You might also find it useful to use the -nostdinc option, which
> turns off searching the standard system directories for include
> files. The downside to this should be clear, though.
   yes, you are coorect here, not a wise idea, unless your situation requires it. 

I just knew you were the one to ask. I really
appreciate your help Thank you.

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Re: Header include question

2002-02-06 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on February 06, Rick Sivernell managed to emit:
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 07:58:04 -0500
> Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Scribbling feverishly on February 05, Rick Sivernell managed to emit:
> > > List / Kurt if he is there
> > > 
> > >   I am having a small problem. I have the old stl headers being used 
> > > before the new version. Would like to know if there is a enviro var that
> > > is set with the -I include files. I have a envir variables set & set into my
> > > path but they are not seen unless they have no file by that name anywhere
> > > else.
> > > 
> > >   Any ideas how to get arounf this?
> > 
> > I don't really understand what the problem is.
> > 
> > Kurt
> > -- 
> Kurt
> 
>The header files and there sub directory files are not seen, if there is a
> corresponding file in the oldder header files in /usr/.. In Windows there is a
> envirment variable to set paths for headers. That way certain headers will be seen
> before others. Is there something similar in Linux/Unix. Or do I need to move my
> stlport stl library to /usr.

Okay, now I understand. -I /some/dir should place specified headers
at the front of the list; that is, the standard headers should be
searched *after* directories specified with -I. However, you have to
use -I- *before* -I because -I only looks for #include "foo.h", not
for #include . Bear in mind that -I directories are scanned
left to right. 

You might also find it useful to use the -nostdinc option, which
turns off searching the standard system directories for include
files. The downside to this should be clear, though.

Finally, use the -H option to tell GCC to print the names of the
header files it is using.

For more infomation, have a look at the "Preprocessor Options" and
the"Directory Options" nodes of the GCC info file.

Kurt
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Re: Header include question

2002-02-06 Thread Rick Sivernell

On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 07:58:04 -0500
Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Scribbling feverishly on February 05, Rick Sivernell managed to emit:
> > List / Kurt if he is there
> > 
> >   I am having a small problem. I have the old stl headers being used 
> > before the new version. Would like to know if there is a enviro var that
> > is set with the -I include files. I have a envir variables set & set into my
> > path but they are not seen unless they have no file by that name anywhere
> > else.
> > 
> >   Any ideas how to get arounf this?
> 
> I don't really understand what the problem is.
> 
> Kurt
> -- 
Kurt

   The header files and there sub directory files are not seen, if there is a
corresponding file in the oldder header files in /usr/.. In Windows there is a
envirment variable to set paths for headers. That way certain headers will be seen
before others. Is there something similar in Linux/Unix. Or do I need to move my
stlport stl library to /usr.

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Re: Header include question

2002-02-06 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on February 05, Rick Sivernell managed to emit:
> List / Kurt if he is there
> 
>   I am having a small problem. I have the old stl headers being used 
> before the new version. Would like to know if there is a enviro var that
> is set with the -I include files. I have a envir variables set & set into my path
> but they are not seen unless they have no file by that name anywhere else.
> 
>   Any ideas how to get arounf this?

I don't really understand what the problem is.

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Header include question

2002-02-05 Thread Rick Sivernell

List / Kurt if he is there

  I am having a small problem. I have the old stl headers being used 
before the new version. Would like to know if there is a enviro var that
is set with the -I include files. I have a envir variables set & set into my path
but they are not seen unless they have no file by that name anywhere else.

  Any ideas how to get arounf this?

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Re: Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname

2002-02-03 Thread Joel Hammer

Thanks everybody. It sounds like things are more or less like they were
under the old @HOME arrangement, which is good.

Joel

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Re: Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname

2002-02-03 Thread Ted Ozolins

On Sunday 03 February 2002 07:41 am, Joel Hammer wrote:

>
> Also, I would like to know if the new name is resolvable on the internet,
> so, would someone, NOT on the comcast network, kindly ping that name
> (tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net) and see if you get back:
> 68.33.4.228 ?
>
> Thanks,
> Joel
>
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PING tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228) from (me) : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228): icmp_seq=0 ttl=240 time=131.896 msec
64 bytes from tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228): icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=130.139 msec
64 bytes from tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228): icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=129.973 msec
64 bytes from tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228): icmp_seq=3 ttl=240 time=131.733 msec
64 bytes from tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228): icmp_seq=4 ttl=240 time=133.442 msec

--- tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 129.973/131.436/133.442/1.336 ms




Re: Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname

2002-02-03 Thread Tim Wunder

Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write:
> BTW, my current plan is, if I have to reboot, I will not run dhcpd and
> not ask to be reassigned an ip number. In effect, I will act like I have a
> static number. Afterall, they did give an infinite lease when they assigned
> my number to me.  Has anyone tried this?
> Joel
>

Hi Joel, 
Thru several re-boots of my router (opening and  closing ports), my IP 
address has yet to change.  I don't think you have to worry about using DHCP 
to get your IP address. It seems each cable modem gets a unique IP address 
that doesn't change.
HTH, 
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Re: Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname

2002-02-03 Thread Matthew Carpenter

She pings from 167.ville.


On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 10:41:34 -0500
"Joel Hammer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I changed over to a dynamic ip from a static ip number with comcast
> recently. I got an ip number and ran nslookup against it to see what my
> new host name was, and it was:
> 
> pcp361333pcs-udp079123uds.towson01.md.comcast.net
> 
> Now, when I run nslookup against my ip number, which hasn't changed, I
> get:
> 
> tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net
> 
> I called comcast tech support but they were clueless about this. Or,
> better put, I was unable to make them appreciate my concerns.
> 
> My major concern is to maintain my current ip number, which is reachable
> from anywhere on the internet as hammershome.com.
> 
> SO, any comcast users here? Have you tried to reboot your machine to
> see if you maintain the same ip number. Have you tried to use the new
> hostname with the -h parameter with dhcpcd?
> 
> Also, I would like to know if the new name is resolvable on the
> internet, so, would someone, NOT on the comcast network, kindly ping
> that name(tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net) and see if you get
> back: 68.33.4.228 ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Joel
> 
> 
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Re: Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname

2002-02-03 Thread Joel Hammer

BTW, my current plan is, if I have to reboot, I will not run dhcpd and
not ask to be reassigned an ip number. In effect, I will act like I have a
static number. Afterall, they did give an infinite lease when they assigned my
number to me.  Has anyone tried this?
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Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname

2002-02-03 Thread Joel Hammer

I changed over to a dynamic ip from a static ip number with comcast recently.
I got an ip number and ran nslookup against it to see what my new host name
was, and it was:

pcp361333pcs-udp079123uds.towson01.md.comcast.net

Now, when I run nslookup against my ip number, which hasn't changed, I get:

tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net

I called comcast tech support but they were clueless about this. Or, better
put, I was unable to make them appreciate my concerns.

My major concern is to maintain my current ip number, which is reachable
from anywhere on the internet as hammershome.com.

SO, any comcast users here? Have you tried to reboot your machine to
see if you maintain the same ip number. Have you tried to use the new
hostname with the -h parameter with dhcpcd?

Also, I would like to know if the new name is resolvable on the internet,
so, would someone, NOT on the comcast network, kindly ping that name
(tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net) and see if you get back:
68.33.4.228 ?

Thanks,
Joel



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Re: xfce question

2002-02-01 Thread Rick Sivernell

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:25:53 -0700
Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:43 -0600
> Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > List
> > 
> > In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I
> > would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great.
> > 
> 
> No and never.  Xfce is dedicated to keeping the bloat out.  You can add
> icons to the popup menus that appear on the panel.
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Re: xfce question

2002-02-01 Thread Collins Richey

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:43 -0600
Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> List
> 
> In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I
> would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great.
> 

No and never.  Xfce is dedicated to keeping the bloat out.  You can add
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Re: xfce question

2002-02-01 Thread Rick Sivernell

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:14:51 + (UTC)
Anita Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:01:50 + (UTC), Anita Lewis wrote:
> > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:43 -0600, Rick Sivernell wrote:
> >> List
> >> 
> >> In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I
> >> would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great.
> >> 
> >> cheers
> >> 
> > 
> > I used to run xfce and I had kde installed as well.  I just started kfm up
> > when X started.  I put 'kfm &' in .Xclients.  That put the icons that are in
> > ~/Desktop on my desktop.  I no longer use xfce and don't have kde installed
> > either, but I'm pretty sure that is what I did.
> > 
> > Anita
> > 
> I just had to check this out.  I have Gnome installed and am using
> icewm-gnome.  So I tried putting gmc& in .Xclients.  Then I remembered that
> I'm now using .xsession for that kind of thing; so I put it in .xsession. 
> Then I just had to drag and drop to place some icons.  After that I had to
> find out where they are stored, because ~/Desktop seems to be just for KDE. 
> I found them in ~/.gnome-desktop/  So now I have icons again - well at least
> folder icons at this point.  
> 
> 
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Re: xfce question

2002-02-01 Thread Anita Lewis

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:01:50 + (UTC), Anita Lewis wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:43 -0600, Rick Sivernell wrote:
>> List
>> 
>> In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I
>> would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great.
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
> 
> I used to run xfce and I had kde installed as well.  I just started kfm up
> when X started.  I put 'kfm &' in .Xclients.  That put the icons that are in
> ~/Desktop on my desktop.  I no longer use xfce and don't have kde installed
> either, but I'm pretty sure that is what I did.
> 
> Anita
> 
I just had to check this out.  I have Gnome installed and am using
icewm-gnome.  So I tried putting gmc& in .Xclients.  Then I remembered that
I'm now using .xsession for that kind of thing; so I put it in .xsession. 
Then I just had to drag and drop to place some icons.  After that I had to
find out where they are stored, because ~/Desktop seems to be just for KDE. 
I found them in ~/.gnome-desktop/  So now I have icons again - well at least
folder icons at this point.  


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Re: xfce question

2002-02-01 Thread Anita Lewis

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:43 -0600, Rick Sivernell wrote:
> List
> 
> In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I
> would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great.
> 
> cheers
> 

I used to run xfce and I had kde installed as well.  I just started kfm up
when X started.  I put 'kfm &' in .Xclients.  That put the icons that are in
~/Desktop on my desktop.  I no longer use xfce and don't have kde installed
either, but I'm pretty sure that is what I did.

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Re: xfce question

2002-02-01 Thread Rick Sivernell

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:31:04 +
Chris Kassopulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:43 -0600
> Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > List
> > 
> > In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I
> > would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great.
> > 
> > cheers
> > 
> > -- 
> > Rick Sivernell
> 
> ROX-filer is a good addition to XFce for desktop icons, etc.
> There was some chat a while back on the XFce list about
> incorporating it into to XFce, but haven't seen it mentioned
> lately.
> 
> http://rox.sourceforge.net/rox_filer.php3
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  Thanks I have now dl it and another req src-rpm. I will need to buld this later

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Re: xfce question

2002-02-01 Thread Chris Kassopulo

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:43 -0600
Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> List
> 
> In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I
> would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great.
> 
> cheers
> 
> -- 
> Rick Sivernell

ROX-filer is a good addition to XFce for desktop icons, etc.
There was some chat a while back on the XFce list about
incorporating it into to XFce, but haven't seen it mentioned
lately.

http://rox.sourceforge.net/rox_filer.php3

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Re: xfce question

2002-02-01 Thread Rick Sivernell

Tim

   I knew that Tim, but thanks.
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Re: xfce question

2002-02-01 Thread Tim Wunder

Previously, Net Llama chose to write:
> --- Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > List
> >
> > In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I
> > would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great.
>
> AFAIK, you can't place icons on the desktop, only in the control panel
> bar thingy.
> You can customize the mouse generated menu (left mouse button click) to
> include whatever you want in it.
>

You can iconify apps, which places them on the desktop as an icon, but there 
still open and running, I think. Probly not what he wants...

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Re: xfce question

2002-02-01 Thread Rick Sivernell

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:22:38 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > List
> > 
> > In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I
> > would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great.
> 
> AFAIK, you can't place icons on the desktop, only in the control panel
> bar thingy.  
> You can customize the mouse generated menu (left mouse button click) to
> include whatever you want in it.
> 
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Re: xfce question

2002-02-01 Thread Net Llama

--- Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> List
> 
> In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I
> would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great.

AFAIK, you can't place icons on the desktop, only in the control panel
bar thingy.  
You can customize the mouse generated menu (left mouse button click) to
include whatever you want in it.

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xfce question

2002-02-01 Thread Rick Sivernell

List

In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I
would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great.

cheers

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Re: Developer question

2002-01-30 Thread Rick Sivernell

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:13:20 -0500
"Wall, Kurt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Use autoconf.
> 
> Kurt
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Sivernell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wed 1/30/2002 12:52 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc:   
> Subject:  Developer question
> List
> 
>   I am doing a programming project for a college class. My system and the 
> development system are both Linux. The final build & operation will be on
> BSD, I do not at this time knowe version. My question is, if I create the
> config &Makefile stuff on linux, how much rework to make my stuff work on 
> BSD. My code will be generic not X or gnu specific, but use the standard headers
> & stlport.
> 
> cheers
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> 
Kurt Susan

   Thanks for your input. Your anwsers were as I thought, just needed to
make sure as I start on this assignment. I will be using C++. This is a 
programming assignment for an upper level course @ UNT. It is to be a 
web based front frame in a browser talking to a program to build the frams
for display. Something a little new for me, but not at this time a hard challenge.
Should be fun. A whole lot more than my Computer ethics class .

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Re: Developer question

2002-01-30 Thread Susan Macchia

Rick,

I've done lots of porting sporadically over the years and for the most part,
they should port.  Just be careful not to use any Linux specific features in
your makefile and you should be all set.  And even if your code was X window
specific, X is on available on all *nix* platforms (provided that it's
installed).

BTW, what programming language are you using?  C or C++ ?

Let me know if you need any more help.  Be glad to!

> List
> 
>   I am doing a programming project for a college class. My system and the 
> development system are both Linux. The final build & operation will be on
> BSD, I do not at this time knowe version. My question is, if I create the
> config &Makefile stuff on linux, how much rework to make my stuff work on 
> BSD. My code will be generic not X or gnu specific, but use the standard 
> headers
> & stlport.
> 
> cheers



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RE: Developer question

2002-01-30 Thread Wall, Kurt

Use autoconf.

Kurt


-Original Message-
From:   Rick Sivernell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 
Subject:Developer question
List

  I am doing a programming project for a college class. My system and the 
development system are both Linux. The final build & operation will be on
BSD, I do not at this time knowe version. My question is, if I create the
config &Makefile stuff on linux, how much rework to make my stuff work on 
BSD. My code will be generic not X or gnu specific, but use the standard headers
& stlport.

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Developer question

2002-01-30 Thread Rick Sivernell

List

  I am doing a programming project for a college class. My system and the 
development system are both Linux. The final build & operation will be on
BSD, I do not at this time knowe version. My question is, if I create the
config &Makefile stuff on linux, how much rework to make my stuff work on 
BSD. My code will be generic not X or gnu specific, but use the standard headers
& stlport.

cheers

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Re: ext3 on root partition question

2002-01-25 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Jerry McBride babbled on about:
>
> I've had the experience where a root system running ext3 was so clobbered
> that it had to be accessed via a boot floppy. The only rescue floppy I had
> on hand did not have an fsck thas was able to recover the ext3 system...
>
> Bingo... a big problem, yes? After upgrading the utils on the floppy, I was
> able to fsck.ext3 the partition in question and all data was recoverable.
>
> That was my point, sorry I wasn't clear enough in the begining.

ah! ok. I see what you mean. I *thought* you menat the rescue floppy kernel 
didn't know ext3... I follow you now
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Re: ext3 on root partition question

2002-01-24 Thread Jerry McBride


> I still dont follow you Jerry. Embarassing how? It will work. I do it all the 
> time. I have an ext2 boot flopy and regularly use it to boot an ext3 system. 


I've had the experience where a root system running ext3 was so clobbered that it had 
to be accessed via a boot floppy. The only rescue floppy I had on hand did not have an 
fsck thas was able to recover the ext3 system...

Bingo... a big problem, yes? After upgrading the utils on the floppy, I was able to 
fsck.ext3 the partition in question and all data was recoverable.

That was my point, sorry I wasn't clear enough in the begining.

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Re: ext3 on root partition question

2002-01-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Jerry McBride babbled on about:

> That's correct.  But my original post was to the effect of making people
> aware of a real bad gotcha is your RESCUE floppy wasn' ext3 aware. It can
> be very embarassing. :') ___

I still dont follow you Jerry. Embarassing how? It will work. I do it all the 
time. I have an ext2 boot flopy and regularly use it to boot an ext3 system. 
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Re: ext3 on root partition question

2002-01-23 Thread Jerry McBride

On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:34:15 -0500 Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jerry McBride babbled on about:
> > I wasn't able to fsck and ext3 partition with old ext2 utils... Quite
> > embarassing.
> 
> if you're running ext3 you need a recent e2fsprogs and util-linux anyway. I 
> kinda thought that this was a given.
>

That's correct.  But my original post was to the effect of making people aware of a 
real bad gotcha is your RESCUE floppy wasn' ext3 aware. It can be very embarassing. :')
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Re: ext3 on root partition question

2002-01-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Susan Macchia babbled on about:
> The output from mount is:
>
> /home/susan/Compaq/backup >mount
> /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw)
> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620,gid=5)
> /dev/hdb5 on /usr type ext3 (rw)
> /dev/hdb1 on /usr/src type ext3 (rw)
> /dev/hdb6 on /opt type ext3 (rw)
> /dev/hdb7 on /home type ext3 (rw)
> shmfs on /dev/shm type shm (rw)
> usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw)
>
>
> So it looks like its ext3.  But why would fsck be run on bootup?

well, are you *sure* it was fsck and not a journal replay?

on the other hand, you could have gotten a fsck because it reached maximum 
mount count, or maximum mount time..
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Re: ext3 on root partition question

2002-01-22 Thread Susan Macchia

The output from mount is:

/home/susan/Compaq/backup >mount
/dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620,gid=5)
/dev/hdb5 on /usr type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hdb1 on /usr/src type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hdb6 on /opt type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hdb7 on /home type ext3 (rw)
shmfs on /dev/shm type shm (rw)
usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw)


So it looks like its ext3.  But why would fsck be run on bootup?


Douglass Hunley wrote:

> Susan Macchia babbled on about:
> > Once the system was booted, when I do a 'ps | grep jour'  I see only 4
> > entries and would expect 5 for my 5 partitions:
>
> > So it should be ext3, right?  Can anyone help unravel the mystery?
>
> what does 'mount' say that root is mounted as?
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Re: ext3 on root partition question

2002-01-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Susan Macchia babbled on about:
> Once the system was booted, when I do a 'ps | grep jour'  I see only 4
> entries and would expect 5 for my 5 partitions:

> So it should be ext3, right?  Can anyone help unravel the mystery?

what does 'mount' say that root is mounted as?
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ext3 on root partition question

2002-01-22 Thread Susan Macchia

Hi all,

I have converted my all my filesystems to ext3.  I am running SuSE 7.3.  But I
am concerned that my root partition did not get converted.  Last night I had a
power outage and on reboot, fschk was run on my root partition.  The boot
screen showed the following message:

/dev/hda2 not cleanly unmounted, check forced

Now all the other partitions looked like they were using the journal files
because for each partition, I saw a message stating (something to the effect)
that the journal file was being checked.

Once the system was booted, when I do a 'ps | grep jour'  I see only 4 entries
and would expect 5 for my 5 partitions:

root50 1  0 06:44 ?00:00:00 [kjournald]
root51 1  0 06:44 ?00:00:00 [kjournald]
root52 1  0 06:44 ?00:00:00 [kjournald]
root53 1  0 06:44 ?00:00:00 [kjournald]


Below is my fstab:

/dev/hda2   /   ext3defaults 1 1
/dev/hdb5   /usrext3defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb1   /usr/srcext3defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb6   /optext3defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb7   /home   ext3defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb2   swapswappri=42 0 0
/dev/cdrecorder /media/cdrecorder   autoro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/cdrom  /media/cdromautoro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy   autonoauto,user,sync 0 0
devpts  /dev/ptsdevpts  defaults 0 0
proc/proc   procdefaults 0 0
usbdevfs/proc/bus/usb   usbdevfsdefaults,noauto 0 0



/dev/hda1 has a test version of SuSE7.3 which I can boot into.  I used this to
convert /dev/hda2 (my production root partion).  I am running with the stock
SuSE 7.3 kernel and haven't yet applied any security updates.
 
When I try and rerun tunejfs on /dev/hda2 I get the following message:

tune2fs 1.24a (02-Sep-2001)
The filesystem already has a journal.


So it should be ext3, right?  Can anyone help unravel the mystery?

TIA!

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Re: really stupid question about HTML

2002-01-19 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Ian babbled on about:
> news://news.somewhere.net/stepsite.somelists.freebsd-users";>

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Re: really stupid question about HTML

2002-01-18 Thread Ian

Ian wrote:
> 
> Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> >
> > how would one construct an HREF to a specific newsgroup on a specific news
> > server?
> > I know HREF="news:news.somewhere.net"; will pull up the configured newsreader
> > and attach to news.somewhere.net, but how do I get the newsreader to
> > automagically load a specific newsgroup on news.somewhere.net?
> > thanks

Forgot something.

All the gory details:

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2396.txt

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Re: really stupid question about HTML

2002-01-18 Thread Ian

Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> 
> how would one construct an HREF to a specific newsgroup on a specific news
> server?
> I know HREF="news:news.somewhere.net"; will pull up the configured newsreader
> and attach to news.somewhere.net, but how do I get the newsreader to
> automagically load a specific newsgroup on news.somewhere.net?
> thanks


news://news.somewhere.net/stepsite.somelists.freebsd-users";>

...replace with appropriate values.

The actual syntax looks something like this in full:

 newsURL=  scheme ":" [ news-site ] [ refbygroup | message ]
 scheme =  "news" | "snews" | "nntp"
 news-site  =  "//" site "/"
 refbygroup = group [ "/" messageno [ "-" messageno ] ] 
 message= local-part "@" domain

as you can see, it's possible to be quite granular in you addressing,
say automatically point them at the news server and a specific message
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really stupid question about HTML

2002-01-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

how would one construct an HREF to a specific newsgroup on a specific news 
server?
I know HREF="news:news.somewhere.net"; will pull up the configured newsreader 
and attach to news.somewhere.net, but how do I get the newsreader to 
automagically load a specific newsgroup on news.somewhere.net?
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Re: Sendmail question

2002-01-08 Thread Stuart Biggerstaff

Thanks to the people who responded for their ideas.  Where I think we will 
go with this is indeed using tools for virtual domains.  In particular, if 
we can be sure doing so will leave mail to valid addresses untouched, 
making an entry to virtusertable sounds like the approach that will have 
least impact.  I may do a test system to verify.

At 04:19 PM 1/8/02 -0800, Bill Campbell wrote:
>On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:34:42PM -0600, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote:
> >Is there a straightforward way to have e-mail sent to nonexistent addresses
> >forwarded to root or another account? We would like to be able to collect
> >these to possibly forward to the users.
>
>I don't do sendmail, but did see an /etc/maildomains file on a system I did
>some other work on which provides for mapping mail for multiple domains
>with default addresses if there isn't a match.  The file for this is in the
>format:
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]   some_valid_email_address
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]   another_valid_email_address
>example.com an_address_where_anything_else_goes.
>
>I thought this was a pretty neat way to handle virtual domains, and
>implemented this in smail-3.2 using the rewrite driver.  This probably
>isn't the best way to handle several thousand primary addresses on a system
>though.  It lends itself best to virtual domains with limited numbers of
>users.

We have probably just over a hundred users--but LOTS of mail, and more than 
a few really large messages.

>This could be used though if one has a capability similar to smail's
>smart_user variable which will forward unknown local addresses to another
>mail server for handling (or another instance of the server on the same
>machine, but listening on another NIC).

We ideally want undeliverable mail to go to root, or (better) another 
single address on the same server.

> >I know we could set up aliases for deleted former users and maybe for
> >incorrect spellings we could anticipate, but that wouldn't get all
> >possibilities.
>
>Deleted or expired are fairly easy to handle by aliasing the address so
>that they get forwarded to a script that returns some useful message.

True, but it means about three years worth of former employees, some of 
whom we've probably forgotten.  And then there is the issue of senders 
guessing e-mail addresses--while the way we assign addresses is probably 
not exactly intuitive for some of our colleagues.

>Bill



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Re: Sendmail question

2002-01-08 Thread Zoran

On Jan 8 Stuart Biggerstaff was heard saying:

->Is there a straightforward way to have e-mail sent to nonexistent addresses 
->forwarded to root or another account? We would like to be able to collect 
->these to possibly forward to the users.


*** Yes there is: Use the /etc/mail/virtusertable and enter one line er 
address to redirect:

# Catch all users on a domain
# ---
@..xxxerror:unavailable This domain is not in 
  use anymore

# Catch specific user
# ---
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And so on...

Compile the file with

makemap hash /etc/mail/virtusertable < /etc/mail/virtusertable

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Re: Sendmail question

2002-01-08 Thread Bill Campbell

On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:34:42PM -0600, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote:
>Is there a straightforward way to have e-mail sent to nonexistent addresses 
>forwarded to root or another account? We would like to be able to collect 
>these to possibly forward to the users.

I don't do sendmail, but did see an /etc/maildomains file on a system I did
some other work on which provides for mapping mail for multiple domains
with default addresses if there isn't a match.  The file for this is in the
format:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]   some_valid_email_address
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   another_valid_email_address
example.com an_address_where_anything_else_goes.

I thought this was a pretty neat way to handle virtual domains, and
implemented this in smail-3.2 using the rewrite driver.  This probably
isn't the best way to handle several thousand primary addresses on a system
though.  It lends itself best to virtual domains with limited numbers of
users.

This could be used though if one has a capability similar to smail's
smart_user variable which will forward unknown local addresses to another
mail server for handling (or another instance of the server on the same
machine, but listening on another NIC).

>I know we could set up aliases for deleted former users and maybe for 
>incorrect spellings we could anticipate, but that wouldn't get all 
>possibilities.

Deleted or expired are fairly easy to handle by aliasing the address so
that they get forwarded to a script that returns some useful message.

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Re: Sendmail question

2002-01-08 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Tuesday 08 January 2002 17:34 pm, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote:
> Is there a straightforward way to have e-mail sent to nonexistent addresses
> forwarded to root or another account? We would like to be able to collect
> these to possibly forward to the users.
>
> I know we could set up aliases for deleted former users and maybe for
> incorrect spellings we could anticipate, but that wouldn't get all
> possibilities.
>
> Any suggestion would be appreciated.
>

If you're running procmail, just put in a recipe at the end of your list of 
recipes to dump it to a file.



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Sendmail question

2002-01-08 Thread Stuart Biggerstaff

Is there a straightforward way to have e-mail sent to nonexistent addresses 
forwarded to root or another account? We would like to be able to collect 
these to possibly forward to the users.

I know we could set up aliases for deleted former users and maybe for 
incorrect spellings we could anticipate, but that wouldn't get all 
possibilities.

Any suggestion would be appreciated.



Stuart Biggerstaff

Linda Hall Library
5109 Cherry
Kansas City, MO 64110

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RE: question for security gurus

2002-01-08 Thread Schmeits, Roger

got try www.sans.org.  They often list the most common security holes in
companies and weaknesses in desktops, poliocies, and a whole bunch of stuff.
I took a security class with company (online courses that is) and this is a
top notch site with excellent classes if you are serious.  there prices are
not terribly bad.  Lots of good articles on various types of weaknesses.  

roger

-Original Message-
From: Douglas J Hunley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: question for security gurus


If I was to start some side consulting as a Network Security Analyzer, what 
tools/steps/methodologies would everyone recommend? Opensource would be
best, 
but I'm open to anything. I've made some recommendations to my firm (who 
wants to go down this path) but I thought I'd get some more info from those 
"in the know".

Basically, they want to be able to approach company XYZ, and sell them a 
"Security Assesment" service. What machines are exposed to Internet, what 
holes they have, what services are available to whom on the Internet. Can we

DoS you, DNS poisoning, zone xfers, known holes, etc..

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Re: question for security gurus

2002-01-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Kurt Wall babbled on about:
> I would start with nmap, then proceed to more aggressive probes such
> as Saint or Satan. In the process, consider password guessing
> programs, packet sniffers, and some of the common root kits.

are Saint/Satan still worth it? Doesn't Nessus cover them?
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Re: question for security gurus

2002-01-07 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 07, Douglas J Hunley enlightened our ignorance thusly:
> If I was to start some side consulting as a Network Security Analyzer, what 
> tools/steps/methodologies would everyone recommend? Opensource would be best, 
> but I'm open to anything. I've made some recommendations to my firm (who 
> wants to go down this path) but I thought I'd get some more info from those 
> "in the know".
> 
> Basically, they want to be able to approach company XYZ, and sell them a 
> "Security Assesment" service. What machines are exposed to Internet, what 
> holes they have, what services are available to whom on the Internet. Can we 
> DoS you, DNS poisoning, zone xfers, known holes, etc..

I would start with nmap, then proceed to more aggressive probes such
as Saint or Satan. In the process, consider password guessing
programs, packet sniffers, and some of the common root kits.

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question for security gurus

2002-01-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley

If I was to start some side consulting as a Network Security Analyzer, what 
tools/steps/methodologies would everyone recommend? Opensource would be best, 
but I'm open to anything. I've made some recommendations to my firm (who 
wants to go down this path) but I thought I'd get some more info from those 
"in the know".

Basically, they want to be able to approach company XYZ, and sell them a 
"Security Assesment" service. What machines are exposed to Internet, what 
holes they have, what services are available to whom on the Internet. Can we 
DoS you, DNS poisoning, zone xfers, known holes, etc..

thanks in advance!
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Re: vi question: mapping a key to esc in insert mode

2002-01-02 Thread Joel Hammer

Thanks. That worked.
I was readinging a semicolon from a file, but that was really a silly hack.
Joel
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 02:33:18PM -0700, Dave Anselmi wrote:
> Joel Hammer wrote:
> 
> > I use vi.
> 
> I'm sorry to hear that.
> 
> No, no, just kidding.  I use it too. ;-)
> 
> > The biggest nuisance I have with it is constantly having to hit the esc
> > button to exit the insert mode. I have remapped my ; key to do this. But,
> > now I have to type cntrl-v59 to insert a semicolon into my document.
> 
> I assume you used map! to remap the ; key and the F2 key.  You can change this
> behavior (macros calling other macros) by setting noremap:
> 
> :set noremap
> 
> If you want remap set, just unset it and reset it in the macro.  Try this:
> 
> map!  ^[:set noremap^Ma;^[:set remap^Ma
> map! ; ^[
> 
> The  represents pressing the F2 key, ^[ means ctrl-vESC, and ^M means
> ctrl-vctrl-m.   If you reverse the order of the map! commands, you'll have to
> use ctrl-v; rather than ; in the top one.
> 
> I tested this in gvim 5.8, but I got the idea from a paper on vi so it should
> work for you.  The paper ("Vi Macros, Abbreviations, and Buffers" by Fred Buck)
> is available here:
> 
> http://www.mathsci.appstate.edu/~egp/misc/vi/macros
> 
> Dave
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Re: vi question: mapping a key to esc in insert mode

2002-01-02 Thread Dave Anselmi

Joel Hammer wrote:

> I use vi.

I'm sorry to hear that.

No, no, just kidding.  I use it too. ;-)

> The biggest nuisance I have with it is constantly having to hit the esc
> button to exit the insert mode. I have remapped my ; key to do this. But,
> now I have to type cntrl-v59 to insert a semicolon into my document.

I assume you used map! to remap the ; key and the F2 key.  You can change this
behavior (macros calling other macros) by setting noremap:

:set noremap

If you want remap set, just unset it and reset it in the macro.  Try this:

map!  ^[:set noremap^Ma;^[:set remap^Ma
map! ; ^[

The  represents pressing the F2 key, ^[ means ctrl-vESC, and ^M means
ctrl-vctrl-m.   If you reverse the order of the map! commands, you'll have to
use ctrl-v; rather than ; in the top one.

I tested this in gvim 5.8, but I got the idea from a paper on vi so it should
work for you.  The paper ("Vi Macros, Abbreviations, and Buffers" by Fred Buck)
is available here:

http://www.mathsci.appstate.edu/~egp/misc/vi/macros

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Re: Lilo question (HW-RAID5)/Error

2002-01-02 Thread Ted Ozolins

On Wednesday 02 January 2002 08:42 am, you wrote:
> I have RH7.2 installed on a Compaq Dual-PPro with HW RAID5.  It's an old
> box (200MHz for each proc) but it seems to run ok.  I am attempting to
> update my lilo config and running into problems.  Here is my lilo.conf
> file:
>
> prompt
> timeout = "100"  <---maybe quotes should be on 100?

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Re: Lilo question (HW-RAID5)/Error

2002-01-02 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Sorry to reply to my own post, but the issue WAS the [dos] file.  I copied and pasted 
the config into a new file in vi and lilo ran flawlessly.


Thanks anyway!
Matt 

On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:42:01 -0500
"Matthew Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have RH7.2 installed on a Compaq Dual-PPro with HW RAID5.  It's an old box (200MHz 
>for each proc) but it seems to run ok.  I am attempting to update my lilo config and 
>running into problems.  Here is my lilo.conf file:
> 
> prompt
> timeout = 100
> boot = /dev/ida/c0d0p1
> map = /boot/map
> install = /boot/boot.b
> message = /boot/message
> default = linux
> 
> image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10smp
> label = linux
> initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.7-10smp.img
> read-only
> append = " mem=256M"
> root = /dev/ida/c0d0p2
> 
> image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10
> label = linux-up
> initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.7-10.img
> read-only
> append = " mem=256M"
> root = /dev/ida/c0d0p2
> 
> When I attempt to execute /sbin/lilo -v -v -v it gives me this:
> 
> [root@lngi56 etc]# lilo -v -v -v
> LILO version 21.4-4, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
> 'lba32' extensions Copyright (C) 1999,2000 John Coffman
> 
> Reading boot sector from current root.
> Merging with /boot/boot.b
> Device 0x4801: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 4110 cylinders,
>32 sectors. Partition offset: 73440 sectors.
> Secondary loader: 11 sectors.
> Device 0x4801: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 4110 cylinders,
>32 sectors. Partition offset: 73440 sectors.
> Syntax error near line 2 in file /etc/lilo.conf
> Removed temporary file /boot/map~
> 
> 
> 
> It doesn't seem to matter what line 2 is.  I've rearranged the lilo.conf file around 
>in everywhich way...
> 
> Here's the last intriguing tidbit:  When I edit /etc/lilo.conf, vi puts the [dos] 
>tag at the bottom of the screen  Would this make a difference?
> 
> Thanks all,
> Matt
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Lilo question (HW-RAID5)/Error

2002-01-02 Thread Matthew Carpenter

I have RH7.2 installed on a Compaq Dual-PPro with HW RAID5.  It's an old box (200MHz 
for each proc) but it seems to run ok.  I am attempting to update my lilo config and 
running into problems.  Here is my lilo.conf file:

prompt
timeout = 100
boot = /dev/ida/c0d0p1
map = /boot/map
install = /boot/boot.b
message = /boot/message
default = linux

image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10smp
label = linux
initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.7-10smp.img
read-only
append = " mem=256M"
root = /dev/ida/c0d0p2

image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10
label = linux-up
initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.7-10.img
read-only
append = " mem=256M"
root = /dev/ida/c0d0p2

When I attempt to execute /sbin/lilo -v -v -v it gives me this:

[root@lngi56 etc]# lilo -v -v -v
LILO version 21.4-4, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
'lba32' extensions Copyright (C) 1999,2000 John Coffman

Reading boot sector from current root.
Merging with /boot/boot.b
Device 0x4801: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 4110 cylinders,
   32 sectors. Partition offset: 73440 sectors.
Secondary loader: 11 sectors.
Device 0x4801: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 4110 cylinders,
   32 sectors. Partition offset: 73440 sectors.
Syntax error near line 2 in file /etc/lilo.conf
Removed temporary file /boot/map~



It doesn't seem to matter what line 2 is.  I've rearranged the lilo.conf file around 
in everywhich way...

Here's the last intriguing tidbit:  When I edit /etc/lilo.conf, vi puts the [dos] tag 
at the bottom of the screen  Would this make a difference?

Thanks all,
Matt


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vi question: mapping a key to esc in insert mode

2002-01-01 Thread Joel Hammer

I use vi.
The biggest nuisance I have with it is constantly having to hit the esc
button to exit the insert mode. I have remapped my ; key to do this. But,
now I have to type cntrl-v59 to insert a semicolon into my document.
I have tried to map F2 to insert a ; but that is not possible. Hitting the
F2 key just results in an esc command being sent, not a ; symbol.
I have tried to define the F2 mapping with cntrl-v59, and that works, but
the F2 key then sends a ; which results in the esc function being activated.
So, I guess my problem is, how do you send an ascii code to vi and prevent
it from being interpreted if it has been remapped?
I can get around this by making up a file which contains the ; symbol, and
reading that file into my document with a macro, but that seems really lame.
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Re: Question

2001-12-28 Thread Net Llama

--- Vern W Heesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 27 December 2001 09:58 pm, you wrote:
> > Very obviously a newby, waiting for parts to finish his new Box.
> > Am going to start with Mandrake 8.1.
> > Am printing-out the manuals now.
> > I've been lurking for some time, and am learning some of the linux
> lingo.
> >
> > But, SxS.Sox vs Sonics?  Be a very strange game.
> >
> > Jer
> 
> SxS = Step-By-Step. You'll find them to be an excellent source of
> information.

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Re: Question

2001-12-28 Thread Mike Andrew

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:28, Jer Scanlon wrote:
> Very obviously a newby, waiting for parts to finish his new Box.
> Am going to start with Mandrake 8.1.


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Re: Question

2001-12-28 Thread kwall

On December 28, Jer Scanlon enlightened our ignorance thusly:
> Very obviously a newby, waiting for parts to finish his new Box.
> Am going to start with Mandrake 8.1.
> Am printing-out the manuals now.
> I've been lurking for some time, and am learning some of the linux lingo.
> 
> But, SxS.Sox vs Sonics?  Be a very strange game.

"SxS" is a shorthand for Step-by-Step.

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Re: Question

2001-12-27 Thread Vern W Heesch

On Thursday 27 December 2001 09:58 pm, you wrote:
> Very obviously a newby, waiting for parts to finish his new Box.
> Am going to start with Mandrake 8.1.
> Am printing-out the manuals now.
> I've been lurking for some time, and am learning some of the linux lingo.
>
> But, SxS.Sox vs Sonics?  Be a very strange game.
>
> Jer
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Question

2001-12-27 Thread Jer Scanlon

Very obviously a newby, waiting for parts to finish his new Box.
Am going to start with Mandrake 8.1.
Am printing-out the manuals now.
I've been lurking for some time, and am learning some of the linux lingo.

But, SxS.Sox vs Sonics?  Be a very strange game.

Jer



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Re: Ok... so its a stupid question

2001-12-27 Thread Ted Ozolins

On Thursday 27 December 2001 05:55 am, you wrote:
> > > Previously, David Aikema chose to write:
>
> mouse usb->ps2  ps2->serial
>
>
> No cigar.
>
> The fly in this ointment is that no two ps2->serial adaptors are born
> equal. They are married to the mouse that they came with. There is no such
> thing as a 'generic' ps2->serial adaptor. The ps2->serial adaptor that you
> have is a cheat and a liar, it's ps2 connection is expecting a mouse, a
> specific oem mouse at that, the last thing it expects is to be hit with is
> another (male) ps2 connector and I am unaware of any circumstance where
> what you have will work.
The biggest problem isn't thepinouts of either of these, as all the ps2 
pinouts are the same, the problem is that ps2 and usb both have a +5V and 
ground available capable of supplying more current than any serial bus can 
ever hope to. Most devices built for usb require that extra zap and even if 
you were to custum build an adapter that would allow you to connect that usb 
device to a seriaal port I doubt that it would ever operate properly. Hence 
my previous comment; Get a USB adapter card and be done with it.

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Re: Ok... so its a stupid question

2001-12-27 Thread Mike Andrew


> > Previously, David Aikema chose to write:

mouse usb->ps2  ps2->serial


No cigar.

The fly in this ointment is that no two ps2->serial adaptors are born equal. 
They are married to the mouse that they came with. There is no such thing as 
a 'generic' ps2->serial adaptor. The ps2->serial adaptor that you have is a 
cheat and a liar, it's ps2 connection is expecting a mouse, a specific oem 
mouse at that, the last thing it expects is to be hit with is another (male) 
ps2 connector and I am unaware of any circumstance where what you have will 
work.


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Re: Vi question: Graphics

2001-12-23 Thread BOF

Try
   
:digraphs

to see the various acsii codes and symbols.

BOF

Joel Hammer wrote:

>Any vi users here?
>I would like to use the [CNTRL]V sequence to add simple graphical thingees
>like small boxes and circles to my text files. Is there a way to do this
>with vi? I have checked out the ascii and iso-8859 pages, and I don't see
>any graphical thinges in those ascii codes.
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Re: Dumb Question of the week

2001-12-23 Thread Keith Antoine

On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 16:06,stayler scribed:
> Would you guys be able to point me to a good reference on major and
> minor numbers for file systems.  I'm p-laying with IDE CDROM and DVD
> drives and COL is complaining about wrong major/minor numbers.  They
> are set to 1 1 just like my SCSI's.  Suggestions?
>
> stayler

Thems not the major or minor numbers complained about. I am guessing you are 
looking in fstab, whilst the numbers are displayed in /dev against the driver.
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Re: WP8 envelope question

2001-12-23 Thread Joel Hammer

OK. I will make it more ambitious. I will look into doing envelopes with several
applications. This may take a couple of weeks.
Joel
On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 04:54:10PM +0100, Zoran wrote:
> On Dec 22 Joel Hammer was heard saying:
> 
> ->Do you really think this is worth a SxS?
> ->Joel
> ->> On Dec 21 Joel Hammer was heard saying:
> ->>
> ->> ->Well, I finally solved this vexing problem, without having to tinker with
>   ^^
> 
> *** You gave the answer already... ;-) Why letting somebody else with the
> same problem reinvent the wheel?
> 
> A few lines, that's all.
> 
> Cheers,
> Zoran.
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Re: Dumb Question of the week

2001-12-23 Thread Dave Anselmi

Net Llama wrote:

> --- stayler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Would you guys be able to point me to a good reference on major and
> > minor numbers for file systems.  I'm p-laying with IDE CDROM and DVD
> > drives and COL is complaining about wrong major/minor numbers.  They
> > are set to 1 1 just like my SCSI's.  Suggestions?
>
> /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt

If you don't have the kernel source handy, or the devices.txt isn't part
of your distros docs, you can find the same info at:

http://www.lanana.org/docs/device-list/devices.txt

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Re: WP8 envelope question

2001-12-23 Thread Zoran

On Dec 22 Joel Hammer was heard saying:

->Do you really think this is worth a SxS?
->Joel
->> On Dec 21 Joel Hammer was heard saying:
->>
->> ->Well, I finally solved this vexing problem, without having to tinker with
  ^^

*** You gave the answer already... ;-) Why letting somebody else with the
same problem reinvent the wheel?

A few lines, that's all.

Cheers,
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Re: Dumb Question of the week

2001-12-23 Thread Jay Nugent

Greetings,

On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, stayler wrote:

> Would you guys be able to point me to a good reference on major and
> minor numbers for file systems.  I'm p-laying with IDE CDROM and DVD
> drives and COL is complaining about wrong major/minor numbers.  They
> are set to 1 1 just like my SCSI's.  Suggestions?

   1 1   I think you have this wrong.  I think you are looking at some
flags in /etc/fstab.  These are NOT the major and Minor numbers.  These
are the 'dump' and 'fsck-order' numbers.  A '1' in the dump column means
to check this partition at boot time, a '0' means not to check it.  The
fsck-order number means to check them in the following order.  1 first, 2
second, etc.  More than one partition can be checked at a time (albeit
slower on the same spindle) across diverse spindles. 

#
# /etc/fstab
#
#   
#
/dev/hda2  /  ext2 defaults  1  1
/dev/hda4  /home  ext2 defaults  1  2
/dev/hda1  /boot  ext2 defaults  1  2
/dev/hdd   /mnt/cdrom iso9660  ro,noauto 0  0
/dev/fd0   /mnt/floppyext2 noauto0  0
/dev/fd0   /mnt/dosfpymsdosnoauto0  0
defunct:(pid231) /net ignore   0 0  0
none   /proc  proc defaults  0  0
/dev/hda3  swap   swap defaults  0  0
#
# Second Hard Drive (HDB)
#
/dev/hdb1  /mnt/dosmsdos   defaults,noauto  00
/dev/hdb2  /mnt/backup ext2defaults,noauto  13
#/dev/hdb3 noneswapsw
/dev/hdb4  /u  ext2defaults 12
#
# --end of file--
#   


   For Major/Minor numbers just take a look at the /dev directory.  For
IDE drives the 3 is the Major number and the 0 thru 16 is the Minor
number:

brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   0 Sep  7  1994 hda
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   1 Sep  7  1994 hda1
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   2 Sep  7  1994 hda2
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   3 Sep  7  1994 hda3
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   4 Sep  7  1994 hda4
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   5 Sep  7  1994 hda5
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   6 Sep  7  1994 hda6
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   7 Sep  7  1994 hda7
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   8 Sep  7  1994 hda8
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   9 Sep  7  1994 hda9  
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,  10 Sep  7  1994 hda10
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,  11 Sep  7  1994 hda11
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,  12 Sep  7  1994 hda12
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,  13 Sep  7  1994 hda13
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,  14 Sep  7  1994 hda14
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,  15 Sep  7  1994 hda15
brw-rw   1 root disk   3,  16 Aug  2  1996 hda16  

   Hope this helps clear a few things up...

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Re: Vi question: Graphics

2001-12-23 Thread Bill Campbell

On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 02:47:56AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
>Any vi users here?
>I would like to use the [CNTRL]V sequence to add simple graphical thingees
>like small boxes and circles to my text files. Is there a way to do this
>with vi? I have checked out the ascii and iso-8859 pages, and I don't see
>any graphical thinges in those ascii codes.

There aren't any.  The graphical thingies are generally non-ascii,
Microsoft specific codes.  You can get limited screen graphics using curses
where the codes are defined for a particular type of terminal (ANSI,
Wyse60, xterm, etc.) in the terminfo or termcap files.  This method is
general and not tied into a specific type of terminal.

Generally it's a Bad Idea(tm) to embed non-ascii codes in text files.
http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/demoroniser/

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Vi question: Graphics

2001-12-22 Thread Joel Hammer

Any vi users here?
I would like to use the [CNTRL]V sequence to add simple graphical thingees
like small boxes and circles to my text files. Is there a way to do this
with vi? I have checked out the ascii and iso-8859 pages, and I don't see
any graphical thinges in those ascii codes.
Thanks,
Joel

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Re: Dumb Question of the week

2001-12-22 Thread Net Llama


--- stayler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would you guys be able to point me to a good reference on major and
> minor numbers for file systems.  I'm p-laying with IDE CDROM and DVD
> drives and COL is complaining about wrong major/minor numbers.  They
> are set to 1 1 just like my SCSI's.  Suggestions?

/usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt

=

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Dumb Question of the week

2001-12-22 Thread stayler

Would you guys be able to point me to a good reference on major and
minor numbers for file systems.  I'm p-laying with IDE CDROM and DVD
drives and COL is complaining about wrong major/minor numbers.  They
are set to 1 1 just like my SCSI's.  Suggestions?

stayler

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Fwd: Re: Ok... so its a stupid question

2001-12-22 Thread David Aikema

This initally didn't seem to make it through so I'm attempting to repost.

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Re: Ok... so its a stupid question
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:14:33 -0800
From: David Aikema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On December 21, 2001 08:20 pm, Ted Ozolins wrote:
> On Friday 21 December 2001 06:41 pm, Tim Wunder wrote:
> > Previously, David Aikema chose to write:
> > > 2. Would an optical mouse get enough electro-juice via the serial port
> > > to enable it to work... or are the ps2 and usb ports capable of
> > > powering more demanding devices?
>
> Why not just get an USB adapter card and be done with it?

The people owning this computer aren't really technology enthusiasts they
just don't want to upgrade.  I lent them an old serial mouse which was in
perfect working order and they've been using that for the past month or so
(somehow that mouse has always slipped my mind).
The machine in question is a cyrix p150+ w/ 16 megs ram running windows 95 on
a 1 gig or smaller hard drive the usb adaptor would almost be worth as
much as the entire machine from the looks of things.

David Aikema

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Hmn... I know Bill Day and at least one other person appeared to be having 
similar problems the other day... 

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Re: WP8 envelope question

2001-12-22 Thread Joel Hammer

Do you really think this is worth a SxS? 
Joel
> On Dec 21 Joel Hammer was heard saying:
> 
> ->Well, I finally solved this vexing problem, without having to tinker with
> ->the postscript code.
> ->To move the text on the envelope over to the right side of the printer, in
> ->the envelope definition, move the text up with the TOP adjustment 4.375 inches. 
> ->Joel
> 
> 
> *** A petit SxS maybe!?
> 
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Re: WP8 envelope question

2001-12-22 Thread Zoran

On Dec 21 Joel Hammer was heard saying:

->Well, I finally solved this vexing problem, without having to tinker with
->the postscript code.
->To move the text on the envelope over to the right side of the printer, in
->the envelope definition, move the text up with the TOP adjustment 4.375 inches. 
->Joel


*** A petit SxS maybe!?

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Re: Ok... so its a stupid question

2001-12-21 Thread Ronnie Gauthier

I have one on a box that runs col2.3, works fine.

On Saturday 22 December 2001 04:20, Ted Ozolins wrote:
> On Friday 21 December 2001 06:41 pm, Tim Wunder wrote:
> > Previously, David Aikema chose to write:
> > > 2. Would an optical mouse get enough electro-juice via the serial port
> > > to enable it to work... or are the ps2 and usb ports capable of
> > > powering more demanding devices?
>
> Why not just get an USB adapter card and be done with it?
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Re: Ok... so its a stupid question

2001-12-21 Thread Ted Ozolins

On Friday 21 December 2001 06:41 pm, Tim Wunder wrote:
> Previously, David Aikema chose to write:
> > 2. Would an optical mouse get enough electro-juice via the serial port to
> > enable it to work... or are the ps2 and usb ports capable of powering
> > more demanding devices?


Why not just get an USB adapter card and be done with it?
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Re: WP8 envelope question

2001-12-21 Thread Joel Hammer

Well, I finally solved this vexing problem, without having to tinker with
the postscript code.
To move the text on the envelope over to the right side of the printer, in
the envelope definition, move the text up with the TOP adjustment 4.375 inches. 
Joel
 On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 01:09:25PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
> Now that I have the filtrex patch installed, I can use WP8 again.
> One real problem for me is envelopes. I have to print them out in the narrow
> format, not wide format, since my lexmarkz53 isn't wide enough for a
> business envelope.
> Problem is, wp8 insists on printing them out on the left hand side of my
> printer (users left hand). However, my printer insists that the paper be
> loaded flush with the right hand side of the printer. Before I look into
> patching up my print queue filter to change the postscript file generated by wp8
> (this could be done, I guess) does anyone know of a way to make WP8 print
> envelopes in the narrow format with the text flush to the right side of the
> page.
> Thanks,
> Joel
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