Re: full sized bluetooth keyboard with numpad and that can work with multiple devices?

[Gerard Doody]

Gerard Doody
jerrydood...@gmail.com
hi there First of all make sure that your keyboard is in enought light to be 
charged.  It helps if you download the app from logitech, if that is where it 
is from. For Logitech, you do not use the regular bluetooth to connect it has 
its own app.  If you do not have a logitech keyboard, I would contact the 
company for further help.  HDH 


On Jun 28, 2014, at 5:33 AM, Chris G  wrote:

How did you get the solar keyboard to connect?
I have a solar keyboard and it won't connect to the usb connector that
it came with.

Thanks
Chris



On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:38:50 -0400
Gerard Doody  wrote:

> 
> Gerard Doody
> jerrydood...@gmail.com
> Hi there, I just bought a full size solar keyboard from Logitech.  It will 
> work well with my computer but will not work with  my phone.  I have an apple 
> wireless keyboard which though not full sized, works well with all my 
> devices.   
> 
> 
> On Jun 26, 2014, at 9:26 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello am in search of a bluetooth keyboard thatr is full sized has a numpad 
> and can work with multiple devices with out having to pair each time, does
> any one know of such a device?  if so can I get model number?
> wanting to use this with mac, ios device and about 2 other devices
> Hank
> 
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> http://qoinpro.com/5f674bfbfc97bbb1f3216db274fb72f8
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Re: (Solved) Urgent! Dropbox selective sync with voiceover

[Cheryl Homiak]

Oh yes, definitely, me too - grin! My comments were not intended to be 
anti-sighted help; it's just that often one of them can't be around when I need 
them. But then I'm usually not there to help when all the lights go out during 
a storm and they can't find the candles either!

> -- 
> Cheryl 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears! 
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)


> On Jun 29, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Huh… I had been working from the assumption  that it would be necessary to 
> mouse-click the folders checkboxes, no doubt a holdover from my windows days. 
> It never occurred to me that pressing spacebar would do  the 
> checking/unchecking. That’s great! Still though, having a sighted person in 
> your life isn’t so hard, or even so bad a thing. I keep one or two around 
> just for grins and giggles.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 8:31 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>> You have to do this blind, but then what else is new - grin! First, if you 
>> haven't used selective sync, I think you assume all boxes are checked by 
>> default. First, open dropbox on the computer you want to change - the 
>> dropbox directory, that is. See if all folders are there. Take note of what 
>> you wish to uncheck or, if you have used selective sync before and have 
>> unchecked folders, what you want to check. Click on your dropbox icon in 
>> menu extras and click settings and account. For selective sync, do vo-space 
>> on change settings. Go to the browser, interact with it and turn on quick 
>> nav. Arrow down to each folder and, if you wish, arrow right and down to do 
>> subfolders. Don't try to use vo-space; just do space on the ones you want to 
>> change. You won't be able to tell what is checked or unchecked, but having 
>> checked your dropbox folder you will know what you want to change and can 
>> just do space accordingly on whatever needs to be changed. When done, do 
>> vo-space on the update button and then do vo-space on update again in 
>> response to the alert. Very soon, if not immediately, you should be able to 
>> go back to dropbox directory in finder and verify that your changes took 
>> place. One less job for your sighted friends and family!
>> 
>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl 
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears! 
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well that's just too bad because I do not have sighted assistance that can 
>>> run over here and help me whenever I would like to change something on my 
>>> computer. But thanks for the information. I will probably just have to 
>>> unlink that computer's dropbox.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness."
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
 I use selective sink and I can tell you that you will need sighted 
 assistance. Even with limited vision and magnification on it is very 
 difficult for a vision impaired person to find those checkboxes and check 
 them there's no audio feedback whatsoever. Again, you will definitely need 
 sighted assistance on this one. A sighted person will see right away what 
 needs to be checked. The checkboxes are to the left of the folder name. 
 But, voiceover is for all the way over to the right end of the line and 
 you need to bring the cursor over to the left to get to the check box. 
 Good luck
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
> On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
> My dropbox is going to be too big for one of my computers and I want to 
> exclude some folders. However, when I use menu extras and go to Selective 
> Sync, I am told only checked folders will be included. But all I see is a 
> browser with my list of files. I have fo

Re: (Solved) Urgent! Dropbox selective sync with voiceover

[Cheryl Homiak]

For a long time I couldn't do that either even though I painstakingly followed 
all the instructions that were posted. Right now, though, vo-shift-space twice 
quickly is doing it for me and I don't try to line up the mouse cursor before I 
do it.


> -- 
> Cheryl 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears! 
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)


> On Jun 29, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I can't even go into the dropbox menu in the extra menu.
> For some reason it just don't work.
> Using latest osx and i guess latest dropbox but am not sure.
> /A
>> 29 jun 2014 kl. 02:31 skrev Cheryl Homiak :
>> 
>> You have to do this blind, but then what else is new - grin! First, if you 
>> haven't used selective sync, I think you assume all boxes are checked by 
>> default. First, open dropbox on the computer you want to change - the 
>> dropbox directory, that is. See if all folders are there. Take note of what 
>> you wish to uncheck or, if you have used selective sync before and have 
>> unchecked folders, what you want to check. Click on your dropbox icon in 
>> menu extras and click settings and account. For selective sync, do vo-space 
>> on change settings. Go to the browser, interact with it and turn on quick 
>> nav. Arrow down to each folder and, if you wish, arrow right and down to do 
>> subfolders. Don't try to use vo-space; just do space on the ones you want to 
>> change. You won't be able to tell what is checked or unchecked, but having 
>> checked your dropbox folder you will know what you want to change and can 
>> just do space accordingly on whatever needs to be changed. When done, do 
>> vo-space on the update button and then do vo-space on update again in 
>> response to the alert. Very soon, if not immediately, you should be able to 
>> go back to dropbox directory in finder and verify that your changes took 
>> place. One less job for your sighted friends and family!
>> 
>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl 
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears! 
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well that's just too bad because I do not have sighted assistance that can 
>>> run over here and help me whenever I would like to change something on my 
>>> computer. But thanks for the information. I will probably just have to 
>>> unlink that computer's dropbox.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness."
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
 I use selective sink and I can tell you that you will need sighted 
 assistance. Even with limited vision and magnification on it is very 
 difficult for a vision impaired person to find those checkboxes and check 
 them there's no audio feedback whatsoever. Again, you will definitely need 
 sighted assistance on this one. A sighted person will see right away what 
 needs to be checked. The checkboxes are to the left of the folder name. 
 But, voiceover is for all the way over to the right end of the line and 
 you need to bring the cursor over to the left to get to the check box. 
 Good luck
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
> On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
> My dropbox is going to be too big for one of my computers and I want to 
> exclude some folders. However, when I use menu extras and go to Selective 
> Sync, I am told only checked folders will be included. But all I see is a 
> browser with my list of files. I have found no check boxes and no way to 
> make them visible or know if they are checked or unchecked. Help would be 
> appreciated.
> Thanks!
> 
> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained p

Re: (Solved) Urgent! Dropbox selective sync with voiceover

[Cheryl Homiak]

I tried that first and it actually did not work for me while the method I 
described did work. However, since people's mileage may vary, it's always good 
to have a complete bag of tricks on hand.


> -- 
> Cheryl 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears! 
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)


> On Jun 29, 2014, at 6:56 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
> 
> try vo + shift + space
> Chris
>> On Jun 29, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I can't even go into the dropbox menu in the extra menu.
>> For some reason it just don't work.
>> Using latest osx and i guess latest dropbox but am not sure.
>> /A
>>> 29 jun 2014 kl. 02:31 skrev Cheryl Homiak :
>>> 
>>> You have to do this blind, but then what else is new - grin! First, if you 
>>> haven't used selective sync, I think you assume all boxes are checked by 
>>> default. First, open dropbox on the computer you want to change - the 
>>> dropbox directory, that is. See if all folders are there. Take note of what 
>>> you wish to uncheck or, if you have used selective sync before and have 
>>> unchecked folders, what you want to check. Click on your dropbox icon in 
>>> menu extras and click settings and account. For selective sync, do vo-space 
>>> on change settings. Go to the browser, interact with it and turn on quick 
>>> nav. Arrow down to each folder and, if you wish, arrow right and down to do 
>>> subfolders. Don't try to use vo-space; just do space on the ones you want 
>>> to change. You won't be able to tell what is checked or unchecked, but 
>>> having checked your dropbox folder you will know what you want to change 
>>> and can just do space accordingly on whatever needs to be changed. When 
>>> done, do vo-space on the update button and then do vo-space on update again 
>>> in response to the alert. Very soon, if not immediately, you should be able 
>>> to go back to dropbox directory in finder and verify that your changes took 
>>> place. One less job for your sighted friends and family!
>>> 
>>> 
 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness."
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
 
 Well that's just too bad because I do not have sighted assistance that can 
 run over here and help me whenever I would like to change something on my 
 computer. But thanks for the information. I will probably just have to 
 unlink that computer's dropbox.
 
 
 
> -- 
> Cheryl 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears! 
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
> On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I use selective sink and I can tell you that you will need sighted 
> assistance. Even with limited vision and magnification on it is very 
> difficult for a vision impaired person to find those checkboxes and check 
> them there's no audio feedback whatsoever. Again, you will definitely 
> need sighted assistance on this one. A sighted person will see right away 
> what needs to be checked. The checkboxes are to the left of the folder 
> name. But, voiceover is for all the way over to the right end of the line 
> and you need to bring the cursor over to the left to get to the check 
> box. 
> Good luck
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>> My dropbox is going to be too big for one of my computers and I want to 
>> exclude some folders. However, when I use menu extras and go to 
>> Selective Sync, I am told only checked folders will be included. But all 
>> I see is a browser with my list of files. I have found no check boxes 
>> and no way to make them visible or know if they are checked or 
>> unchecked. Help would be appreciated.
>> Thanks!

Re: (Solved) Urgent! Dropbox selective sync with voiceover

[Chris Moore]

try vo + shift + space
Chris
On Jun 29, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

> Hi!
> I can't even go into the dropbox menu in the extra menu.
> For some reason it just don't work.
> Using latest osx and i guess latest dropbox but am not sure.
> /A
> 29 jun 2014 kl. 02:31 skrev Cheryl Homiak :
> 
>> You have to do this blind, but then what else is new - grin! First, if you 
>> haven't used selective sync, I think you assume all boxes are checked by 
>> default. First, open dropbox on the computer you want to change - the 
>> dropbox directory, that is. See if all folders are there. Take note of what 
>> you wish to uncheck or, if you have used selective sync before and have 
>> unchecked folders, what you want to check. Click on your dropbox icon in 
>> menu extras and click settings and account. For selective sync, do vo-space 
>> on change settings. Go to the browser, interact with it and turn on quick 
>> nav. Arrow down to each folder and, if you wish, arrow right and down to do 
>> subfolders. Don't try to use vo-space; just do space on the ones you want to 
>> change. You won't be able to tell what is checked or unchecked, but having 
>> checked your dropbox folder you will know what you want to change and can 
>> just do space accordingly on whatever needs to be changed. When done, do 
>> vo-space on the update button and then do vo-space on update again in 
>> response to the alert. Very soon, if not immediately, you should be able to 
>> go back to dropbox directory in finder and verify that your changes took 
>> place. One less job for your sighted friends and family!
>> 
>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl 
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears! 
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> Well that's just too bad because I do not have sighted assistance that can 
>>> run over here and help me whenever I would like to change something on my 
>>> computer. But thanks for the information. I will probably just have to 
>>> unlink that computer's dropbox.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness."
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
 I use selective sink and I can tell you that you will need sighted 
 assistance. Even with limited vision and magnification on it is very 
 difficult for a vision impaired person to find those checkboxes and check 
 them there's no audio feedback whatsoever. Again, you will definitely need 
 sighted assistance on this one. A sighted person will see right away what 
 needs to be checked. The checkboxes are to the left of the folder name. 
 But, voiceover is for all the way over to the right end of the line and 
 you need to bring the cursor over to the left to get to the check box. 
 Good luck
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
 
> My dropbox is going to be too big for one of my computers and I want to 
> exclude some folders. However, when I use menu extras and go to Selective 
> Sync, I am told only checked folders will be included. But all I see is a 
> browser with my list of files. I have found no check boxes and no way to 
> make them visible or know if they are checked or unchecked. Help would be 
> appreciated.
> Thanks!
> 
> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears! 
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
> 
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Re: Logic for mac.

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hello.
Logic pro X is reasonably accessible and it is becoming more and more 
accessible with each update. 
People are using it with voice over with success making recordings, mixing etc. 
There are issues, of course, but it is very usable.

Good luck.
Nektarios.

On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

> Hi!
> I've heard that logic pro or what its called isn't accessible for us.
> So what program to use if i want the same functions?
> Ofcourse i can use garageband but i want something more professional.
> /A
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Re: Garage Band questions.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Ok.  Mine is the Tyros yamaha 4 and it's the 61 key model.
On 29 Jun 2014, at 22:11, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> OK.  E-mail is kawa...@me.com It's quite late now though but we can speak 
> some time in the week end as I work full time so can't chat during the week.
> On 29 Jun 2014, at 22:09, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>> i dont know how to check your email, sorry. im new to mac also so we could 
>> help each other,. im here in italy, so i think we only have 1 hour 
>> difference.
>> On 29 Jun 2014, at 11:06 pm, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> Skype name is my e-mail address.
>>> 
>>> At the moment I haven't got a USB lead yet but if you could send 
>>> instructions off list to me (my e-mail) then when I get a USB lead I can 
>>> try using your instructions as I need to get a USB lead.  By the way I'm in 
>>> the UK so there would be a time difference I expect depending in what part 
>>> of the world you are.  Is your keyboard a Tyros Yamaha 4?  If so you could 
>>> really help me with things off list or one week end a Skype conversation.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your assistance.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> On 29 Jun 2014, at 21:58, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 as of my keyboard i can see mine, and how could i contact you offlist? or 
 maybe we could talk to skype, 
 my skype is dionipher
 On 29 Jun 2014, at 10:49 pm, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
> Hello.
> 
> I've just opened Garage band and have a few questions.
> 
> At the moment I'm learning Preludes and Fugues and thought I'd use Garage 
> Band to assist.  So a friend of mine created a project for me and we 
> downloaded the midi file from the internet.
> 
> For some reason even though we can find the tempo slider, the tempo is 
> not changing.  So does anyone know who we can get Voice Over to change 
> the tempo?
> 
> I don't know if any has a Tyros Yamaha 4 but if so, has anyone connected 
> theirs to the Mac under Mavericks?  If so, please get in touch either on 
> list off list as I can't seem to connect mine even though the correct 
> driver was downloaded as the Mac could not see the keyboard.
> 
> I don't know what master tracks mean but it's easy enough to get my file 
> playing and to select the various instruments.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: Garage Band questions.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

OK.  E-mail is kawa...@me.com It's quite late now though but we can speak some 
time in the week end as I work full time so can't chat during the week.
On 29 Jun 2014, at 22:09, Dionipher Presas Herrera  wrote:

> i dont know how to check your email, sorry. im new to mac also so we could 
> help each other,. im here in italy, so i think we only have 1 hour difference.
> On 29 Jun 2014, at 11:06 pm, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> Skype name is my e-mail address.
>> 
>> At the moment I haven't got a USB lead yet but if you could send 
>> instructions off list to me (my e-mail) then when I get a USB lead I can try 
>> using your instructions as I need to get a USB lead.  By the way I'm in the 
>> UK so there would be a time difference I expect depending in what part of 
>> the world you are.  Is your keyboard a Tyros Yamaha 4?  If so you could 
>> really help me with things off list or one week end a Skype conversation.
>> 
>> Thanks for your assistance.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 29 Jun 2014, at 21:58, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> as of my keyboard i can see mine, and how could i contact you offlist? or 
>>> maybe we could talk to skype, 
>>> my skype is dionipher
>>> On 29 Jun 2014, at 10:49 pm, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello.
 
 I've just opened Garage band and have a few questions.
 
 At the moment I'm learning Preludes and Fugues and thought I'd use Garage 
 Band to assist.  So a friend of mine created a project for me and we 
 downloaded the midi file from the internet.
 
 For some reason even though we can find the tempo slider, the tempo is not 
 changing.  So does anyone know who we can get Voice Over to change the 
 tempo?
 
 I don't know if any has a Tyros Yamaha 4 but if so, has anyone connected 
 theirs to the Mac under Mavericks?  If so, please get in touch either on 
 list off list as I can't seem to connect mine even though the correct 
 driver was downloaded as the Mac could not see the keyboard.
 
 I don't know what master tracks mean but it's easy enough to get my file 
 playing and to select the various instruments.
 
 Thank you.
 
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Re: Garage Band questions.

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

by the way i've got a farfisa 88 keys piano
On 29 Jun 2014, at 11:06 pm, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Skype name is my e-mail address.
> 
> At the moment I haven't got a USB lead yet but if you could send instructions 
> off list to me (my e-mail) then when I get a USB lead I can try using your 
> instructions as I need to get a USB lead.  By the way I'm in the UK so there 
> would be a time difference I expect depending in what part of the world you 
> are.  Is your keyboard a Tyros Yamaha 4?  If so you could really help me with 
> things off list or one week end a Skype conversation.
> 
> Thanks for your assistance.
> 
> Kawal.
> On 29 Jun 2014, at 21:58, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>> as of my keyboard i can see mine, and how could i contact you offlist? or 
>> maybe we could talk to skype, 
>> my skype is dionipher
>> On 29 Jun 2014, at 10:49 pm, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> I've just opened Garage band and have a few questions.
>>> 
>>> At the moment I'm learning Preludes and Fugues and thought I'd use Garage 
>>> Band to assist.  So a friend of mine created a project for me and we 
>>> downloaded the midi file from the internet.
>>> 
>>> For some reason even though we can find the tempo slider, the tempo is not 
>>> changing.  So does anyone know who we can get Voice Over to change the 
>>> tempo?
>>> 
>>> I don't know if any has a Tyros Yamaha 4 but if so, has anyone connected 
>>> theirs to the Mac under Mavericks?  If so, please get in touch either on 
>>> list off list as I can't seem to connect mine even though the correct 
>>> driver was downloaded as the Mac could not see the keyboard.
>>> 
>>> I don't know what master tracks mean but it's easy enough to get my file 
>>> playing and to select the various instruments.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: Garage Band questions.

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

i dont know how to check your email, sorry. im new to mac also so we could help 
each other,. im here in italy, so i think we only have 1 hour difference.
On 29 Jun 2014, at 11:06 pm, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Skype name is my e-mail address.
> 
> At the moment I haven't got a USB lead yet but if you could send instructions 
> off list to me (my e-mail) then when I get a USB lead I can try using your 
> instructions as I need to get a USB lead.  By the way I'm in the UK so there 
> would be a time difference I expect depending in what part of the world you 
> are.  Is your keyboard a Tyros Yamaha 4?  If so you could really help me with 
> things off list or one week end a Skype conversation.
> 
> Thanks for your assistance.
> 
> Kawal.
> On 29 Jun 2014, at 21:58, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>> as of my keyboard i can see mine, and how could i contact you offlist? or 
>> maybe we could talk to skype, 
>> my skype is dionipher
>> On 29 Jun 2014, at 10:49 pm, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> I've just opened Garage band and have a few questions.
>>> 
>>> At the moment I'm learning Preludes and Fugues and thought I'd use Garage 
>>> Band to assist.  So a friend of mine created a project for me and we 
>>> downloaded the midi file from the internet.
>>> 
>>> For some reason even though we can find the tempo slider, the tempo is not 
>>> changing.  So does anyone know who we can get Voice Over to change the 
>>> tempo?
>>> 
>>> I don't know if any has a Tyros Yamaha 4 but if so, has anyone connected 
>>> theirs to the Mac under Mavericks?  If so, please get in touch either on 
>>> list off list as I can't seem to connect mine even though the correct 
>>> driver was downloaded as the Mac could not see the keyboard.
>>> 
>>> I don't know what master tracks mean but it's easy enough to get my file 
>>> playing and to select the various instruments.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
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Re: Garage Band questions.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Skype name is my e-mail address.

At the moment I haven't got a USB lead yet but if you could send instructions 
off list to me (my e-mail) then when I get a USB lead I can try using your 
instructions as I need to get a USB lead.  By the way I'm in the UK so there 
would be a time difference I expect depending in what part of the world you 
are.  Is your keyboard a Tyros Yamaha 4?  If so you could really help me with 
things off list or one week end a Skype conversation.

Thanks for your assistance.

Kawal.
On 29 Jun 2014, at 21:58, Dionipher Presas Herrera  wrote:

> as of my keyboard i can see mine, and how could i contact you offlist? or 
> maybe we could talk to skype, 
> my skype is dionipher
> On 29 Jun 2014, at 10:49 pm, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> I've just opened Garage band and have a few questions.
>> 
>> At the moment I'm learning Preludes and Fugues and thought I'd use Garage 
>> Band to assist.  So a friend of mine created a project for me and we 
>> downloaded the midi file from the internet.
>> 
>> For some reason even though we can find the tempo slider, the tempo is not 
>> changing.  So does anyone know who we can get Voice Over to change the tempo?
>> 
>> I don't know if any has a Tyros Yamaha 4 but if so, has anyone connected 
>> theirs to the Mac under Mavericks?  If so, please get in touch either on 
>> list off list as I can't seem to connect mine even though the correct driver 
>> was downloaded as the Mac could not see the keyboard.
>> 
>> I don't know what master tracks mean but it's easy enough to get my file 
>> playing and to select the various instruments.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
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Re: Garage Band questions.

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

as of my keyboard i can see mine, and how could i contact you offlist? or maybe 
we could talk to skype, 
 my skype is dionipher
On 29 Jun 2014, at 10:49 pm, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> I've just opened Garage band and have a few questions.
> 
> At the moment I'm learning Preludes and Fugues and thought I'd use Garage 
> Band to assist.  So a friend of mine created a project for me and we 
> downloaded the midi file from the internet.
> 
> For some reason even though we can find the tempo slider, the tempo is not 
> changing.  So does anyone know who we can get Voice Over to change the tempo?
> 
> I don't know if any has a Tyros Yamaha 4 but if so, has anyone connected 
> theirs to the Mac under Mavericks?  If so, please get in touch either on list 
> off list as I can't seem to connect mine even though the correct driver was 
> downloaded as the Mac could not see the keyboard.
> 
> I don't know what master tracks mean but it's easy enough to get my file 
> playing and to select the various instruments.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Kawal.
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Garage Band on the I phone.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello Again.

Has anyone ever got Garage band working on their I phone?  If so, how would one 
accomplish things on it as I have tried in the past but had no success unless 
it's accessible now.

Thanks.

Kawal.

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Garage Band questions.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello.

I've just opened Garage band and have a few questions.

At the moment I'm learning Preludes and Fugues and thought I'd use Garage Band 
to assist.  So a friend of mine created a project for me and we downloaded the 
midi file from the internet.

For some reason even though we can find the tempo slider, the tempo is not 
changing.  So does anyone know who we can get Voice Over to change the tempo?

I don't know if any has a Tyros Yamaha 4 but if so, has anyone connected theirs 
to the Mac under Mavericks?  If so, please get in touch either on list off list 
as I can't seem to connect mine even though the correct driver was downloaded 
as the Mac could not see the keyboard.

I don't know what master tracks mean but it's easy enough to get my file 
playing and to select the various instruments.

Thank you.

Kawal.

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Re: Is there no way to reach master track in the latest version of Garage Band?

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

if you are in the control bar, interact with it, then click smart control, then 
stop interacting with control bar, then go to the far right then interact with 
smart control, there you will see master,
i hope i did solve your problem
On 29 Jun 2014, at 10:29 pm, Jessica D  wrote:

> How would you get to the Smart control?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>> its in the smart control
>> On 29 Jun 2014, at 08:56 am, Vic  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Am I missing something or there is no way to reach master track in the 
>>> latest version of Garage Band? After I enable "Show Master Track" option, I 
>>> cannot find it anywhere on the screen.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any advice.
>>> Best,
>>> Victor
>>> 
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Re: Is there no way to reach master track in the latest version of Garage Band?

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How would you get to the Smart control?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
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> its in the smart control
>> On 29 Jun 2014, at 08:56 am, Vic  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Am I missing something or there is no way to reach master track in the 
>> latest version of Garage Band? After I enable "Show Master Track" option, I 
>> cannot find it anywhere on the screen.
>> 
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Best,
>> Victor
>> 
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Re: Is there no way to reach master track in the latest version of Garage Band?

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

its in the smart control
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> Hi,
> Am I missing something or there is no way to reach master track in the latest 
> version of Garage Band? After I enable "Show Master Track" option, I cannot 
> find it anywhere on the screen.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> Best,
> Victor
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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

[Robert C]

Anders,
   Can you explain more? You do not want speech on when using braille? 
I have not used my braille display that much yet with the Mac or iPhone 
but when I do, speech is on but if I don't want to hear it I can just 
mute it. I have not used it yet with Windows but will run NVDA when I do.


   But back to what the question I asked was, in what way is Apple's 
braikke support lacking? Knowing that, I can be ready for any issues I 
may run into. In my limited tests, braille output seems ok.


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On 6/29/2014 11:21 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Swedish letters are verry strange sometimes.
Also the movement of the braille could be much more easy.
Now i am a power user of windows of course and also very used to linux and 
their environment and  when moving around the braille display on a window 
doesn't afect the speech.
However when moving the display over the window on the mac i still hear speech 
comming through.
So the speech and braille follows each other which really annoys me.
I want it to be as in window eyes or in orca or brltty for linux.
/A
29 jun 2014 kl. 09:11 skrev Christopher Hallsworth :


I know on iOS that translation from computer Braille to literary grade II 
Braille is best described as querky. This however has been fixed in iOS 7. What 
happened is you start typing a word such as black. If you're a quick typist 
then you won't see this problem. But if you are a slow one then you may end up 
with the letters b l a c just fine but after entering the k and the space the k 
would translate to knowledge. Someone can correct me on this though because I 
don't use Braille on iOS or OS X yet. I'm not aware of any issues pertaining to 
Braille under OS X.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 29/06/2014 02:29, Robert C wrote:

Sabahattin,
I wanted to come back to this and ask you, in what ways you feel
that braille support in OS X (and iOS too?) is substandard. When I begin
to use my Mac full time, I will connect my braille display most of the
time. Therefore I want to be aware of these issues and work around them.
Thanks.

Quote of the nanosecond . . .
Why do they call it the Department of Interior when they are in
charge of everything outdoors?
Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
E-mail-
gone.to.da...@gmail.com

On 6/23/2014 10:28 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi Eileen,

To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see,
it doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd
encourage you to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.
Don't get your hopes up for anything like the quality of support from
the Windows screen readers, I'm afraid.

With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out
what all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.
I changed the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical
navigation to be the inner ones.

I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and
I'll try and recreate your issue.

Cheers,
Sabahattin





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Logic for mac.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I've heard that logic pro or what its called isn't accessible for us.
So what program to use if i want the same functions?
Ofcourse i can use garageband but i want something more professional.
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Re: Blind Square - help getting started please

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Like the trekker can?
If so then yes i agree.
/A
29 jun 2014 kl. 14:55 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen :

> Hi.
> 
> It is worth the price, but for me it lacks one function, the function to 
> record a route.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> Den 27/06/2014 kl. 20.23 skrev Matt Dierckens :
> 
>> I think it is, then again, I did buy it when was $10. Still worth it though.
>> Matt Dierckens
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course 
>> available now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of  June.
>> Spots are limited, sign up here
>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
>> 
>>> I want to know what everyone thinks, is it worth the price?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jessica 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Matt Dierckens  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 If either of you need assistance with blind square, I can be reached off 
 list.
 
 Matt Dierckens
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course 
 available now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of  June.
 Spots are limited, sign up here
 http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
 
 
 
 On Jun 27, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Eileen Misrahi  
 wrote:
 
> Hi Eleanor,
> 
> This is the first chance I have had to open the app. I hope you have read 
> the help info that is documented in the app. There are so many settings 
> that you can select to make the experience of using Blind Square to your 
> liking. 
> 
> To answer yourquestion about using Google Maps, this needs to be install 
> on the phone first. When you open Blind Square, you can search for a 
> location or open your "My Places" to select a destination. Once this is 
> done, at the bottom of the screen in portrait mode you will hear VO 
> annouce "route" or something like that. Double tap on this and a new 
> screen will open. This is where you can choose the navigation apps for 
> GPS. The native map will be listed, as well as any GPS apps that you have 
> installed. Just double tap on one of them and  the GPS app will open. You 
> then need to  use the GPS app as if you had opened it on its own. There 
> are lots to learn about the app. I know that at applevis.com there have 
> been podcasts produce on how to use the app. I would do a search for 
> "Blind Square" to pull them up. HTH.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 26, 2014, at 11:34 PM, Eleanor Roberts 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all 
>> 
>> Wondered if you could help me with this one. I've just bought Blind 
>> Square and put it on my IPhone, and was wondering if anyone could give 
>> me some hints and tips on how to get started please?? For example, do I 
>> need to get something like Google maps to use with it? If so how do I 
>> get the two to work together?? 
>> 
>> Any help much appreciated, as I feel I'm plunging into the unknown!! 
>> 
>> Thanks. 
>> 
>> Eleanor 
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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Swedish letters are verry strange sometimes.
Also the movement of the braille could be much more easy.
Now i am a power user of windows of course and also very used to linux and 
their environment and  when moving around the braille display on a window 
doesn't afect the speech.
However when moving the display over the window on the mac i still hear speech 
comming through.
So the speech and braille follows each other which really annoys me.
I want it to be as in window eyes or in orca or brltty for linux.
/A
29 jun 2014 kl. 09:11 skrev Christopher Hallsworth :

> I know on iOS that translation from computer Braille to literary grade II 
> Braille is best described as querky. This however has been fixed in iOS 7. 
> What happened is you start typing a word such as black. If you're a quick 
> typist then you won't see this problem. But if you are a slow one then you 
> may end up with the letters b l a c just fine but after entering the k and 
> the space the k would translate to knowledge. Someone can correct me on this 
> though because I don't use Braille on iOS or OS X yet. I'm not aware of any 
> issues pertaining to Braille under OS X.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
> 
> On 29/06/2014 02:29, Robert C wrote:
>> Sabahattin,
>>I wanted to come back to this and ask you, in what ways you feel
>> that braille support in OS X (and iOS too?) is substandard. When I begin
>> to use my Mac full time, I will connect my braille display most of the
>> time. Therefore I want to be aware of these issues and work around them.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
>> Why do they call it the Department of Interior when they are in
>> charge of everything outdoors?
>> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
>> E-mail-
>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
>> 
>> On 6/23/2014 10:28 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> Hi Eileen,
>>> 
>>> To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see,
>>> it doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd
>>> encourage you to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.
>>> Don't get your hopes up for anything like the quality of support from
>>> the Windows screen readers, I'm afraid.
>>> 
>>> With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out
>>> what all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.
>>> I changed the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical
>>> navigation to be the inner ones.
>>> 
>>> I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and
>>> I'll try and recreate your issue.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sabahattin
>>> 
>> 
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Re: (Solved) Urgent! Dropbox selective sync with voiceover

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I can't even go into the dropbox menu in the extra menu.
For some reason it just don't work.
Using latest osx and i guess latest dropbox but am not sure.
/A
29 jun 2014 kl. 02:31 skrev Cheryl Homiak :

> You have to do this blind, but then what else is new - grin! First, if you 
> haven't used selective sync, I think you assume all boxes are checked by 
> default. First, open dropbox on the computer you want to change - the dropbox 
> directory, that is. See if all folders are there. Take note of what you wish 
> to uncheck or, if you have used selective sync before and have unchecked 
> folders, what you want to check. Click on your dropbox icon in menu extras 
> and click settings and account. For selective sync, do vo-space on change 
> settings. Go to the browser, interact with it and turn on quick nav. Arrow 
> down to each folder and, if you wish, arrow right and down to do subfolders. 
> Don't try to use vo-space; just do space on the ones you want to change. You 
> won't be able to tell what is checked or unchecked, but having checked your 
> dropbox folder you will know what you want to change and can just do space 
> accordingly on whatever needs to be changed. When done, do vo-space on the 
> update button and then do vo-space on update again in response to the alert. 
> Very soon, if not immediately, you should be able to go back to dropbox 
> directory in finder and verify that your changes took place. One less job for 
> your sighted friends and family!
> 
> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears! 
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Well that's just too bad because I do not have sighted assistance that can 
>> run over here and help me whenever I would like to change something on my 
>> computer. But thanks for the information. I will probably just have to 
>> unlink that computer's dropbox.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl 
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears! 
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> I use selective sink and I can tell you that you will need sighted 
>>> assistance. Even with limited vision and magnification on it is very 
>>> difficult for a vision impaired person to find those checkboxes and check 
>>> them there's no audio feedback whatsoever. Again, you will definitely need 
>>> sighted assistance on this one. A sighted person will see right away what 
>>> needs to be checked. The checkboxes are to the left of the folder name. 
>>> But, voiceover is for all the way over to the right end of the line and you 
>>> need to bring the cursor over to the left to get to the check box. 
>>> Good luck
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
 My dropbox is going to be too big for one of my computers and I want to 
 exclude some folders. However, when I use menu extras and go to Selective 
 Sync, I am told only checked folders will be included. But all I see is a 
 browser with my list of files. I have found no check boxes and no way to 
 make them visible or know if they are checked or unchecked. Help would be 
 appreciated.
 Thanks!
 
 
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> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears! 
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

[Robert C]

   All the settings relating to braille is under the Voiceover settings.

Quote of the nanosecond . . .
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On 6/29/2014 9:17 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:

Which is the new setting in iOS 7 and appears to fix the translation
issue. Glad it does for you.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 29/06/2014 15:30, Robert C wrote:

Turning off automatic braille translation in the iPhone settings
fixes that.

Quote of the nanosecond . . .
Don't use a lot where a little will do.
Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
E-mail-
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On 6/29/2014 12:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:

I know on iOS that translation from computer Braille to literary grade
II Braille is best described as querky. This however has been fixed in
iOS 7. What happened is you start typing a word such as black. If you're
a quick typist then you won't see this problem. But if you are a slow
one then you may end up with the letters b l a c just fine but after
entering the k and the space the k would translate to knowledge. Someone
can correct me on this though because I don't use Braille on iOS or OS X
yet. I'm not aware of any issues pertaining to Braille under OS X.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 29/06/2014 02:29, Robert C wrote:

Sabahattin,
I wanted to come back to this and ask you, in what ways you feel
that braille support in OS X (and iOS too?) is substandard. When I
begin
to use my Mac full time, I will connect my braille display most of the
time. Therefore I want to be aware of these issues and work around
them.
Thanks.

Quote of the nanosecond . . .
Why do they call it the Department of Interior when they are in
charge of everything outdoors?
Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
E-mail-
gone.to.da...@gmail.com

On 6/23/2014 10:28 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi Eileen,

To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see,
it doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd
encourage you to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.
Don't get your hopes up for anything like the quality of support from
the Windows screen readers, I'm afraid.

With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out
what all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.
I changed the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical
navigation to be the inner ones.

I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and
I'll try and recreate your issue.

Cheers,
Sabahattin











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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

[Christopher Hallsworth]

Which is the new setting in iOS 7 and appears to fix the translation 
issue. Glad it does for you.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 29/06/2014 15:30, Robert C wrote:

Turning off automatic braille translation in the iPhone settings
fixes that.

Quote of the nanosecond . . .
Don't use a lot where a little will do.
Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
E-mail-
gone.to.da...@gmail.com

On 6/29/2014 12:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:

I know on iOS that translation from computer Braille to literary grade
II Braille is best described as querky. This however has been fixed in
iOS 7. What happened is you start typing a word such as black. If you're
a quick typist then you won't see this problem. But if you are a slow
one then you may end up with the letters b l a c just fine but after
entering the k and the space the k would translate to knowledge. Someone
can correct me on this though because I don't use Braille on iOS or OS X
yet. I'm not aware of any issues pertaining to Braille under OS X.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 29/06/2014 02:29, Robert C wrote:

Sabahattin,
I wanted to come back to this and ask you, in what ways you feel
that braille support in OS X (and iOS too?) is substandard. When I begin
to use my Mac full time, I will connect my braille display most of the
time. Therefore I want to be aware of these issues and work around them.
Thanks.

Quote of the nanosecond . . .
Why do they call it the Department of Interior when they are in
charge of everything outdoors?
Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
E-mail-
gone.to.da...@gmail.com

On 6/23/2014 10:28 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi Eileen,

To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see,
it doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd
encourage you to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.
Don't get your hopes up for anything like the quality of support from
the Windows screen readers, I'm afraid.

With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out
what all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.
I changed the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical
navigation to be the inner ones.

I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and
I'll try and recreate your issue.

Cheers,
Sabahattin









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Re: Podcast client for the mac.

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Down cast works just fine.  I use it more on my phone, but I have been using 
downcast for some time here with no problems.


On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:

>   Hi all,
> I'm looking for a podcast client for my macbook running Lion.
> I don't want to use iTunes for podcasts.
> Does DownCast work well with VO on the mac?
> I have it on my phone and it works well there.
> 
> Blessings,
> Stacey Robinson
> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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Re: Podcast client for the mac.

[Devin Prater]

Yes, but it does cost, and I do believe I'll try out VLC's pod catching 
features on We're Alive or the Leviathan Chronicles or something.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Kevin Barry  wrote:

> Downcast works fine on the Mac.
> 
> At 09:44 AM 6/29/2014, you wrote:
>>Hi all,
>> I'm looking for a podcast client for my macbook running Lion.
>> I don't want to use iTunes for podcasts.
>> Does DownCast work well with VO on the mac?
>> I have it on my phone and it works well there.
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> Stacey Robinson
>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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Downcast on the Mac improved.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello All.

Downcast on the Mac is fixed and it has improved on the Mac so, try it.

Kawal.

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Re: Podcast client for the mac.

[Kevin Barry]

Downcast works fine on the Mac.

At 09:44 AM 6/29/2014, you wrote:

Hi all,
I'm looking for a podcast client for my macbook running Lion.
I don't want to use iTunes for podcasts.
Does DownCast work well with VO on the mac?
I have it on my phone and it works well there.

Blessings,
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Re: Podcast client for the mac.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Downcast is also fine for the Mac although when I used it before, because I was 
sinking my podcasts with iCloud Downcast got stuck.  Has anyone tried it since 
as I haven't as I was relying on it for some time before I resorted back to the 
I phone.  I hope it's working again since the last update for the Mac.  I dare 
not try it again in case it gets stuck on the Mac as I don't trust it like I 
use to as the Downcast App works flawlessly on the iPhone.

Thanks.

Kawal.
On 29 Jun 2014, at 15:19, Devin Prater  wrote:

> VLC can use podcasts, although I've never tried that.
> On Jun 29, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
> 
>>  Hi all,
>> I'm looking for a podcast client for my macbook running Lion.
>> I don't want to use iTunes for podcasts.
>> Does DownCast work well with VO on the mac?
>> I have it on my phone and it works well there.
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> Stacey Robinson
>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

[Robert C]

   Turning off automatic braille translation in the iPhone settings 
fixes that.


Quote of the nanosecond . . .
Don't use a lot where a little will do.
Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
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On 6/29/2014 12:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:

I know on iOS that translation from computer Braille to literary grade
II Braille is best described as querky. This however has been fixed in
iOS 7. What happened is you start typing a word such as black. If you're
a quick typist then you won't see this problem. But if you are a slow
one then you may end up with the letters b l a c just fine but after
entering the k and the space the k would translate to knowledge. Someone
can correct me on this though because I don't use Braille on iOS or OS X
yet. I'm not aware of any issues pertaining to Braille under OS X.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 29/06/2014 02:29, Robert C wrote:

Sabahattin,
I wanted to come back to this and ask you, in what ways you feel
that braille support in OS X (and iOS too?) is substandard. When I begin
to use my Mac full time, I will connect my braille display most of the
time. Therefore I want to be aware of these issues and work around them.
Thanks.

Quote of the nanosecond . . .
Why do they call it the Department of Interior when they are in
charge of everything outdoors?
Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
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On 6/23/2014 10:28 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi Eileen,

To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see,
it doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd
encourage you to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.
Don't get your hopes up for anything like the quality of support from
the Windows screen readers, I'm afraid.

With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out
what all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.
I changed the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical
navigation to be the inner ones.

I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and
I'll try and recreate your issue.

Cheers,
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Re: Podcast client for the mac.

[Devin Prater]

VLC can use podcasts, although I've never tried that.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:

>   Hi all,
> I'm looking for a podcast client for my macbook running Lion.
> I don't want to use iTunes for podcasts.
> Does DownCast work well with VO on the mac?
> I have it on my phone and it works well there.
> 
> Blessings,
> Stacey Robinson
> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

[Devin Prater]

Just turn off automatic braille translation. That way, it'll only translate 
when you press the space bar.
On Jun 28, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Robert C  wrote:

> Sabahattin,
>   I wanted to come back to this and ask you, in what ways you feel that 
> braille support in OS X (and iOS too?) is substandard. When I begin to use my 
> Mac full time, I will connect my braille display most of the time. Therefore 
> I want to be aware of these issues and work around them. Thanks.
> 
> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
> Why do they call it the Department of Interior when they are in
> charge of everything outdoors?
> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
> E-mail-
> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
> 
> On 6/23/2014 10:28 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Hi Eileen,
>> 
>> To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see, it 
>> doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd encourage you 
>> to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.  Don't get your hopes 
>> up for anything like the quality of support from the Windows screen readers, 
>> I'm afraid.
>> 
>> With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out what 
>> all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.  I changed 
>> the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical navigation to be the 
>> inner ones.
>> 
>> I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and I'll 
>> try and recreate your issue.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Sabahattin
>> 
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Re: Blind Square and Creating Routes

[Les Kriegler]

Well – said. I like to use commercially available apps when possible. I do 
think that one area where blindness related development makes a lot of sense is 
in the realm of GPS applications. It's just something that's needed. This isn't 
to bash programs like Apple maps or Google maps. They are fine programs. I do 
think we have a tendency to talk to much about the price we talk about GPS 
applications. While that is a factor, there are other factors to be considered 
as I mentioned the other day. Typically, with commercially available apps, 
there isn't much help available. With blindness – related apps, you get help 
which a lot of people need to be successful in using GPS.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Unless Sendero has recently included that in their Seeing Eye app for the 
> iPhone, the only GPS software that has the function to record a route is the 
> stand-a-lone soffware for the BrailleNote and Braille Sense products. When 
> the Sendero app came out for the phone, this was one feature I was hoping 
> for. I use "My Way Lite" to set a bread crumb route when I need to create 
> one. Oh by-the-way, I wish those who think that an app is too pricey, to 
> think about how much in the past one needed to pay for stand-a-lone devices 
> that would do the same function that an app can do in the iOS environment. 
> This is not the first time that this type of conversation has sprung up on 
> various lists or other media sites. I just want to  mention that the 
> developers who extremely dedicated to creating and supporting those who use 
> them should be conmended. My hats off to the developers of Blind Square and 
> MBraille. I use these apps on a daily basis.  
> 
> Thanks for listening.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen
> 
> 
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Podcast client for the mac.

[Stacey Robinson]

Hi all,
I'm looking for a podcast client for my macbook running Lion.
I don't want to use iTunes for podcasts.
Does DownCast work well with VO on the mac?
I have it on my phone and it works well there.

Blessings,
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Re: Macking the windows restore on bootcamp, is it possible?

[ramy moustafa]

Istill waiting ur help

Ramy moustafa saber
Musicc instructor at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
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> On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:16 PM, ramy moustafa  wrote:
> 
> But the windows restore will not work?
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> Musicc instructor at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:35 PM, David Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> This is one reason why I think a Fusion Virtual Machine strategy is so much 
>> easier than Boot Camp. Just copy the Virtual Machine file to an external 
>> drive and job done.
>> 
>> For what you want to do I know that some drive backup programs like Paragon 
>> work with boot camp but I am not sure how accessible they are.
>> 
>> Snapshot is a good accessible option but you
>> may need to check that it works with Boot Camp.
>> 
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>>> On 28/06/2014 04:39, ramy moustafa wrote:
>>> Hi all:
>>> don't know if this is ithe right place to ask this question, but i did 
>>> bootcamp with mavericks and windows 7 on my mac mini, now my problem is 
>>> that i installed many many apps on my windows and i need to creat windows 
>>> image that i can restore later, will it work on bootcamp, when i need to 
>>> restore it, will i follow the same steps as without bootcamp? or restoring 
>>> windows on bootcamp is not available?
>>> thanks so much
>>> 
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>>> Musicc instructor at:
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>>> music arranger and sound engineer
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Blind Square and Creating Routes

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello All,

Unless Sendero has recently included that in their Seeing Eye app for the 
iPhone, the only GPS software that has the function to record a route is the 
stand-a-lone soffware for the BrailleNote and Braille Sense products. When the 
Sendero app came out for the phone, this was one feature I was hoping for. I 
use "My Way Lite" to set a bread crumb route when I need to create one. Oh 
by-the-way, I wish those who think that an app is too pricey, to think about 
how much in the past one needed to pay for stand-a-lone devices that would do 
the same function that an app can do in the iOS environment. This is not the 
first time that this type of conversation has sprung up on various lists or 
other media sites. I just want to  mention that the developers who extremely 
dedicated to creating and supporting those who use them should be conmended. My 
hats off to the developers of Blind Square and MBraille. I use these apps on a 
daily basis.  

Thanks for listening.

Best,
Eileen


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Re: Is there no way to reach master track in the latest version of Garage Band?

[Phil Halton]

I couldn't even reach the master track in the previous version. I don't think 
it's an accessible element.

On Jun 29, 2014, at 2:56 AM, Vic  wrote:

> Hi,
> Am I missing something or there is no way to reach master track in the latest 
> version of Garage Band? After I enable "Show Master Track" option, I cannot 
> find it anywhere on the screen.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> Best,
> Victor
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Re: (Solved) Urgent! Dropbox selective sync with voiceover

[Phil Halton]

Huh... I had been working from the assumption  that it would be necessary to 
mouse-click the folders checkboxes, no doubt a holdover from my windows days. 
It never occurred to me that pressing spacebar would do  the 
checking/unchecking. That's great! Still though, having a sighted person in 
your life isn't so hard, or even so bad a thing. I keep one or two around just 
for grins and giggles.



On Jun 28, 2014, at 8:31 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> You have to do this blind, but then what else is new - grin! First, if you 
> haven't used selective sync, I think you assume all boxes are checked by 
> default. First, open dropbox on the computer you want to change - the dropbox 
> directory, that is. See if all folders are there. Take note of what you wish 
> to uncheck or, if you have used selective sync before and have unchecked 
> folders, what you want to check. Click on your dropbox icon in menu extras 
> and click settings and account. For selective sync, do vo-space on change 
> settings. Go to the browser, interact with it and turn on quick nav. Arrow 
> down to each folder and, if you wish, arrow right and down to do subfolders. 
> Don't try to use vo-space; just do space on the ones you want to change. You 
> won't be able to tell what is checked or unchecked, but having checked your 
> dropbox folder you will know what you want to change and can just do space 
> accordingly on whatever needs to be changed. When done, do vo-space on the 
> update button and then do vo-space on update again in response to the alert. 
> Very soon, if not immediately, you should be able to go back to dropbox 
> directory in finder and verify that your changes took place. One less job for 
> your sighted friends and family!
> 
> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears! 
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Well that's just too bad because I do not have sighted assistance that can 
>> run over here and help me whenever I would like to change something on my 
>> computer. But thanks for the information. I will probably just have to 
>> unlink that computer's dropbox.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl 
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears! 
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> I use selective sink and I can tell you that you will need sighted 
>>> assistance. Even with limited vision and magnification on it is very 
>>> difficult for a vision impaired person to find those checkboxes and check 
>>> them there's no audio feedback whatsoever. Again, you will definitely need 
>>> sighted assistance on this one. A sighted person will see right away what 
>>> needs to be checked. The checkboxes are to the left of the folder name. 
>>> But, voiceover is for all the way over to the right end of the line and you 
>>> need to bring the cursor over to the left to get to the check box. 
>>> Good luck
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
 My dropbox is going to be too big for one of my computers and I want to 
 exclude some folders. However, when I use menu extras and go to Selective 
 Sync, I am told only checked folders will be included. But all I see is a 
 browser with my list of files. I have found no check boxes and no way to 
 make them visible or know if they are checked or unchecked. Help would be 
 appreciated.
 Thanks!
 
 
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> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears! 
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
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Re: Blind Square - help getting started please

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

It is worth the price, but for me it lacks one function, the function to record 
a route.

Best regards Annie.
Den 27/06/2014 kl. 20.23 skrev Matt Dierckens :

> I think it is, then again, I did buy it when was $10. Still worth it though.
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available 
> now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of  June.
> Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
> 
>> I want to know what everyone thinks, is it worth the price?
>> Thanks,
>> Jessica 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 27, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>> 
>>> If either of you need assistance with blind square, I can be reached off 
>>> list.
>>> 
>>> Matt Dierckens
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
>>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
>>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course 
>>> available now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of  June.
>>> Spots are limited, sign up here
>>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Eileen Misrahi  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Eleanor,
 
 This is the first chance I have had to open the app. I hope you have read 
 the help info that is documented in the app. There are so many settings 
 that you can select to make the experience of using Blind Square to your 
 liking. 
 
 To answer yourquestion about using Google Maps, this needs to be install 
 on the phone first. When you open Blind Square, you can search for a 
 location or open your "My Places" to select a destination. Once this is 
 done, at the bottom of the screen in portrait mode you will hear VO 
 annouce "route" or something like that. Double tap on this and a new 
 screen will open. This is where you can choose the navigation apps for 
 GPS. The native map will be listed, as well as any GPS apps that you have 
 installed. Just double tap on one of them and  the GPS app will open. You 
 then need to  use the GPS app as if you had opened it on its own. There 
 are lots to learn about the app. I know that at applevis.com there have 
 been podcasts produce on how to use the app. I would do a search for 
 "Blind Square" to pull them up. HTH.
 
 Best,
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 26, 2014, at 11:34 PM, Eleanor Roberts 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all 
> 
> Wondered if you could help me with this one. I've just bought Blind 
> Square and put it on my IPhone, and was wondering if anyone could give me 
> some hints and tips on how to get started please?? For example, do I need 
> to get something like Google maps to use with it? If so how do I get the 
> two to work together?? 
> 
> Any help much appreciated, as I feel I'm plunging into the unknown!! 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Eleanor 
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Re: Blind Square - help getting started please

[Chris G]

Thank you for the clarification. (smile)


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On 6/28/2014 1:12 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa wrote:

Hello!

I'm developer of the app. BlindSquare really doesn't need built-in
turn-by-turn, since it is always better if user can use best-of-best. It
varies by the location, if TomTon, Navigon, Google Maps or Apple Maps is
better than the other, so it is really the best choice to give user
freedom to pick the one he/she likes.

Luckily Apple provides their turn-by-turn also to 3rd party app
developers, so some day I'll add that as a built-in choice. Possibility
to use 3rd party apps doesn't go away and since Apple provides this
option for free, it will not affect price of the app.

Br, Ilkka


On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Anders Holmberg mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

Hi!
Actually navigon or tomtom i guess is much more expensive.
So yes its really worth the pricing.
/A
27 jun 2014 kl. 20:48 skrev Matt Dierckens mailto:matt.dierck...@gmail.com>>:


It was on sale. It's seriously worth the price.
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On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Jessica D mailto:jldai...@gmail.com>> wrote:


When was it ever that low? The lowest I ever saw was $14.99, you
would never convince me to pay that either.

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On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Matt Dierckens
mailto:matt.dierck...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I think it is, then again, I did buy it when was $10. Still
worth it though.
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On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jessica D mailto:jldai...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I want to know what everyone thinks, is it worth the price?
Thanks,
Jessica

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On Jun 27, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Matt Dierckens
mailto:matt.dierck...@gmail.com>> wrote:


If either of you need assistance with blind square, I can be
reached off list.

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On Jun 27, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Eileen Misrahi
mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com>>
wrote:


Hi Eleanor,

This is the first chance I have had to open the app. I hope
you have read the help info that is documented in the app.
There are so many settings that you can select to make the
experience of using Blind Square to your liking.

To answer yourquestion about using Google Maps, this needs to
be install on the phone first. When you open Blind Square,
you can search for a location or open your "My Places" to
select a destination. Once this is done, at the bottom of the
screen in portrait mode you will hear VO annouce "route" or
something like that. Double tap on this and a new screen will
open. This is where you can choose the navigation apps for
GPS. The native map will be listed, as well as any GPS apps
that you have installed. Just double tap on one of them and
 the GPS app will open. You then need to  use the GPS app as
if you had opened it on its own. There are lots to learn
about the app. I know that at applevis.com
 there have been podcasts produce on
how to use the app. I would do a search for "Blind Square" to
pull them up. HTH.

Best,
Eileen

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On Jun 26, 2014, at 11:34 

Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

[Christopher Hallsworth]

I know on iOS that translation from computer Braille to literary grade 
II Braille is best described as querky. This however has been fixed in 
iOS 7. What happened is you start typing a word such as black. If you're 
a quick typist then you won't see this problem. But if you are a slow 
one then you may end up with the letters b l a c just fine but after 
entering the k and the space the k would translate to knowledge. Someone 
can correct me on this though because I don't use Braille on iOS or OS X 
yet. I'm not aware of any issues pertaining to Braille under OS X.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 29/06/2014 02:29, Robert C wrote:

Sabahattin,
I wanted to come back to this and ask you, in what ways you feel
that braille support in OS X (and iOS too?) is substandard. When I begin
to use my Mac full time, I will connect my braille display most of the
time. Therefore I want to be aware of these issues and work around them.
Thanks.

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On 6/23/2014 10:28 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi Eileen,

To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see,
it doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd
encourage you to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.
Don't get your hopes up for anything like the quality of support from
the Windows screen readers, I'm afraid.

With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out
what all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.
I changed the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical
navigation to be the inner ones.

I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and
I'll try and recreate your issue.

Cheers,
Sabahattin





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