Re: [maemo-users] Re: n800 apps?

2007-01-21 Thread Mike Klein
I believe there are examples of capturing video in python and c on maemo
wiki/web somewhere, no?

I know in time with Nokia's support unit will have apps it needs...or
rather hope. Maemo kind of competes with work done by
handhelds.orgwhich is taking more traditional desktop
approach/metaphor. Enough people have to buy device for people to write
apps but with no initial apps to speak of not many will buy device.

I'm sure many people buying unit have no idea it's kinda empty
software-wise for now...not complaining...just stating facts.


mike

Juha Kuikka wrote:
 I found that load-applet
 (https://garage.maemo.org/projects/load-applet/) runs fine on N800. As
 for capturing webcam's video: I do not know. But if Xvideo is being
 used (I read somewhere that N800 does support it) it might not work as
 it is an overlay.

  - Juha

 On 1/20/07, *Thomas Armagost* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Is there a screen capture program that runs on the n800?  Could it
 capture a screenshot of the webcam's video?  Is this maybe a kludge?
 All I want is a still snapshot.

 I just bought an n800 a few hours ago at the CompUSA in Rancho
 Cucamonga, California.  I've been interested in Linux PDAs since the
 year 2000, but I've never owned one until now.  I'm not a hacker, I'm
 a doodler.  Today I learned that sketch can't read image files unless
 they look like this:

xxx.sketch.png
bozo.sketch.png
two2.sketch.png

 And so forth.

 I imported an image file from my Mac mini via USB and suckered sketch
 into opening it.

 There's definitely room for improvement.

 In http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2007-January/002803.html
 Mike Klein wrote:

  It's kind of a developer's device for the moment. Not marketed as
  such...but true none the less.
 
  Mail seems like an abomination...ditto for a/v chat...however this
  one kinda reflects industry fragmentation regarding voip protocols.
 
  I believe Skype will be coming to N800 soon. This is getting to be
  large voip 'playground'...so quite useful.
 
  A device that comes with camera and no app out of box to use
  it...is definitely immature...but with time much is possible.
 
  mike
 
  Jonathan Greene wrote:
  I just found that google calendar works on the N800 which is
  awesome as it never really worked for me on the 770.   I am
  using the factory OS version and apparently need to update to
  a later version ...
  Anyone get the n800 flashed via Mac yet using the flasher app?

 This is for the 770 but could possibly work with the n800...

 http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithMacOSX

 Please post a followup if you succeed at flashing the n800 via Mac.

  Where Where are the rest of the apps that run on IT2007?  The
  application catalog is pretty sparse...  I know it's new but a few
  more would be nice.

 Applications for IT2006 that have been tested to run on IT2007...

 http://maemo.org/maemowiki/OS2007_Tested_Applications

 And a few that don't run (yet) on IT2007.  Namely Tuner, Ogg Vorbis
 Player, MPlayer and Xournal.

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 I look forward to exploring the X terminal.

 Tallyho,
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[maemo-users] mamo-mapper_1.3.4mg1 vs. maemo-mapper_1.3.4 ?

2007-01-21 Thread Armin M. Warda
  Hi Marius,

the application installer on my Nokia 770 offers to update 
installed maemo-mapper 1.3.4 with 1.3.4mg1 from your 
repository at http://mg.pov.lt/770/dists/mistral/experimental/

In the corresponding source package's changelog I read:

maemo-mapper (1.3.4mg1) unstable; urgency=low
  * Apply patch by Albertas Agejevas for Microsoft Virtual Earth
compatibility (http://fridge.pov.lt/~alga/maemo-ve-1.3.4.patch).
 -- Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:28:42 +0200

That's it? What URI do you use for MS-VE?

  regards, Armin.

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Re: [maemo-users] Nokia N800 unbuyable

2007-01-21 Thread Iñigo Illán Aranburu
I have exactly the same problem. I have tried with two diferent credit
cards (both were Mastercard), and both purchases were refused. As it
seems the problem was also on some security checks my credit cards
didn't pass. I called to Nokia on Friday but they told me they didn't
know exactly where was the problem and to call on Monday. I will send
you all I can get to know.


Bye!


On dom, 2007-01-21 at 13:53 +0100, Emanuele Corno wrote:
 Hello all,
 I want to share my bad experience on nokia dot com Europe, trying to
 purchase the N800 :
 It's the third order I am sending, as in the first two, my Gold
 credit card didn't pass the financial test, now I sent another with
 another credit card, because I want to see if it's a problem with my
 specific Gold card issue.. 
 Honestly, i strongly doubt that a card with several thousand euro
 plafond might be refused..
 Anyhow, I wish anyone who purchased or tried to do it at Nokia direct
 shop could share the experience, as I am quite frustrated!!! 
 I start thinking that there's something behind... Maybe they run out
 of item, or something else...
 Anyhow, I wanted first to aware anyone who might read, as it seems
 they don't want to sell the N800 so easily... 
 Maybe you need to deserve it
 
 
 
 
 
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[maemo-users] Re: OT: N770 for sale in the UK

2007-01-21 Thread Nicola Larosa
David Bottrill wrote:
 I have a N770 for sale
 ...
 It's in very good condition, little used

So, if the 770 was not used much, why are you buying a N800? ;-D


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[maemo-users] osso-xterm on n800

2007-01-21 Thread Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga
I installed the osso-xterm on my N800, but it has the same bug that text
entry in handwriting mode is messed up, each character is inserted
multiple times as you type new characters.

The solution on the 770 is to install the osso-xterm (advanced), but
reports are that that xterm doesn't work on the N800 yet.

In case anyone else has the same problem.

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Re: [maemo-users] Re: n800 apps?

2007-01-21 Thread Jonathan Greene

I just used Andrew's most excellent 770Flasher GUI and updated my N800
to the latest - worked like a champ!  The process was pretty straight
forward, though it did not want to initiate until I removed my memory
card.  Once I did the install took about 60 seconds and then with a
reboot and my card inserted I was asked immediately (after selecting
region etc) to restore from backup which I did... rock on!

On 1/21/07, Thomas Armagost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



This is for the 770 but could possibly work with the n800...

http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithMacOSX

Please post a followup if you succeed at flashing the n800 via Mac.



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Re: [maemo-users] Running the Internal Video Player with Arguments?

2007-01-21 Thread Amichai Rotman

Thanks Kahlil,

So, back to my firs question - is it possible to run the internal Video
Player with time stamp arguments from a terminal? What's the executable's
name?

Thanks!

On 1/15/07, Kahlil Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You might have some memory problems actually the nokia's mameo is
catching so much memory that it crash the application. The official
argument will be

mplayer -ss 36:14.0 file.avi

It might work but also it might crash, what I found is that the
nokia's video player is quite good avoiding this.


On 1/15/07, Amichai Rotman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I would like to start the internal Video Player with a time stamp (say:
 start playing from 00:36:14). Is it at all possible?

 I also have MPlayer installed - how do I execute commands like 'o' (not
 zero) to bring up the current time indicator on the OSD like I do on my
 desktop?

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[maemo-users] Gestures?

2007-01-21 Thread Jonathan Greene

Is there anyway to initiate gestures when browsing?  It would be most
helpful for a few instances... a C to begin composing in GMail for
instance...

This is definitely a feature I miss from my Palm days ... especially
the T3 where you could do grafitti anywhere on screen.

Thanks,
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Re: [maemo-users] Re: Storage/Sleep Issues..

2007-01-21 Thread Igor Stoppa
Hi!
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 22:45 +, ext Neil MacLeod wrote:
 Larry Battraw wrote:
  On 1/19/07, John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  All,
 
   How does one sleep the N800 or is it required? I have been just
  stuffing it in the sleeve, but sometimes it comes back out lit up. I
  wonder if I am using battery that I could save.
  
  
   Try hitting the power button and selecting lock touch screen and
  keys.  Otherwise it's definitely going to turn the screen on every
  time it's bumped.
  
  Larry
 
 Larry - have a look at these two bugs for information and a possible 
 temporary solution:
 
 https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=943
 https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=959
 
 Either way, a better and more effective solution is needed to put the N800 
 into a locked and wireless-disabled state that could be achieved by replacing 
 the 770's cover.
 
 @Nokia: If anyone from Nokia could take a look at Bugzilla it would be 
 appreciated - Bugzilla seems to have been ignored for at least a week now 
 (voting doesn't work on N800-specific bugs, for instance - bug #944).

fwiw I took a look (but don't get excited, I'm not really into UI stuff)
and my comment is that although i personally agree and have suffered
from the same problem, your bug is basically againist UI design, so it's
harder to prove that it's a bug, compared to, for example:
when I ask for offline mode, the device remains online

You are questioning the specs, not their implementation.

If you have time and the knowledge, I would recommend to try to do your
fix and submit it as a patch that, without compromiising the original
functionality, improves it, for example adding an option to the power
menu.

Then it will be probably easier to have your request satisfied.

In the worst case i can assure you that you'll have at least one user
(me =) for the patch.

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[maemo-users] Re: Storage/Sleep Issues..

2007-01-21 Thread Neil MacLeod

John P. Mitchell wrote:
Thanks for the heads up. That helps to understand the behavior 
better. I just assumed I was using incorrectly some how. Maybe I should 
have looked through bugzilla as well.




I only entered bug #959 the other night once it had been identified on the 
Internet Tablet Talk forum what the problem is, as the inconsistent behaviour - 
some users report their screen disabled immediately, others (myslelf included) 
have it continue responding to touches even after locking - has been confusing 
users since day #1.

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Re: [maemo-users] Re: Storage/Sleep Issues..

2007-01-21 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 23:42 +, ext Neil MacLeod wrote:
[snip]
 Sadly I don't have the skills/knowledge. I wouldn't know where to start! The 
 problem highlighted by bug #959 is probably rooted deep in the bowels of the 
 (non-open source) power management, and I don't even know if the Display 
 applet is open sourced.

No, the power management _is_ open source, since it's basically all in
the kernel. What is not included in the kernel is just the
inactivity_timeout_expired = blank screen
action, and nothing else.

There is this myth about hidden power management. Well, there isn't any.
The mantra of power management is:

All the resources belong to the system and have to be kept busy for as
short as possible, and only when it's really necessary.

Therefore it _has_ to be inkernel because of the shorter latencies.
Of course every application/library must be power management friendly,
but again, it's not hidden stuff. Check the thread about battery life: i
gave detailed explanation about it.
 
 As for the cover-on functionality discussed in bug #943, I'm looking for 
 ideas that could be implemented - again I don't have the skills to implement 
 these ideas, I'm just a humble end user that doesn't fit in with the Nokia 
 always on philosophy (well actually, my employer doesn't agree with the 
 Nokia stance either!) A number of end users also disagree about the inability 
 to rapidly put the N800 into a 770-type cover-on state - Nokia really have 
 goofed here. :(
 
  Then it will be probably easier to have your request satisfied.
  
  In the worst case i can assure you that you'll have at least one user
  (me =) for the patch.
  
 
 Trust me, we're not alone - there are many who have complained (if only were 
 voting were enabled against N800 bugs in Bugzilla we may even have some stats 
 to back that up!)
I guess it will be soon, I see no reason why it shouldn't. Unfortunately we 
don't have infinite manpower.

 Unfortunately I won't be able to submit patches for these two bugs, but if 
 they're not addressed in future firmware - particularly the lack of a 
 cover-on shortcut, bug #943 - then I think I will have to begin questioning 
 the motives and outlook of Nokia when it so clearly flies in the face of 
 their customers.
Again, it's a matter of prioritising; everybody who takes the hassle of
submitting a bug thinks that it's important. And probably it is.

Then somebody else has to decide what has to be fixed first. It doesn't
happen only to external bugs, even for us internally, one files a bug
and finally gets it fixed after a month or so because something else had
higher priority.

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Re: [maemo-users] Re: Storage/Sleep Issues..

2007-01-21 Thread Jonathan Greene

At first this bothered me like everyone else but once I discovered
that by matching the time for both display and power (mine are both
set to to min) the power  / d-pad combo is really quite nice.

You can remain connected if you have an active connection or the unit
simply shuts things down as they go idle this way.  Nothing except for
the combo press again will wake the screen...  I definitely miss the
protective cover, but now prefer this new idle connectivity.


On 1/21/07, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 23:42 +, ext Neil MacLeod wrote:
[snip]
 Sadly I don't have the skills/knowledge. I wouldn't know where to start! The

problem highlighted by bug #959 is probably rooted deep in the bowels of the
(non-open source) power management, and I don't even know if the Display
applet is open sourced.


No, the power management _is_ open source, since it's basically all in
the kernel. What is not included in the kernel is just the
inactivity_timeout_expired = blank screen
action, and nothing else.

There is this myth about hidden power management. Well, there isn't any.
The mantra of power management is:

All the resources belong to the system and have to be kept busy for as
short as possible, and only when it's really necessary.

Therefore it _has_ to be inkernel because of the shorter latencies.
Of course every application/library must be power management friendly,
but again, it's not hidden stuff. Check the thread about battery life: i
gave detailed explanation about it.

 As for the cover-on functionality discussed in bug #943, I'm looking for 
ideas

that could be implemented - again I don't have the skills to implement these
ideas, I'm just a humble end user that doesn't fit in with the Nokia
always on
philosophy (well actually, my employer doesn't agree with the Nokia stance
either!) A number of end users also disagree about the inability to
rapidly put the
N800 into a 770-type cover-on state - Nokia really have goofed here. :(


  Then it will be probably easier to have your request satisfied.
 
  In the worst case i can assure you that you'll have at least one user
  (me =) for the patch.
 

 Trust me, we're not alone - there are many who have complained (if only

were voting were enabled against N800 bugs in Bugzilla we may even have some
stats to back that up!)

I guess it will be soon, I see no reason why it shouldn't. Unfortunately we 
don't

have infinite manpowertunately we don't
have infinite manpowertunately we don't
have infinite manpowernfortunately I won't be able to submit patches for these
two bugs, but if they're not addressed in future firmware -
particularly the lack of a
cover-on shortcut, bug #943 - then I think I will have to begin questioning the
motives and outlook of Nokia when it so clearly flies in the face of their
customers.

Again, it's a matter of prioritising; everybody who takes the hassle of
submitting a bug thinks that it's important. And probably it is.

Then somebody else has to decide what has to be fixed first. It doesn't
happen only to external bugs, even for us internally, one files a bug
and finally gets it fixed after a month or so because something else had
higher priority.

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