Re: MD: MEMOREX BLOCK ERROR RATE ( long)
Magic wrote: As MDs are classed as non-perishabvle items, it is common for warehousing groups not to stocj rotate the items. This means that when the stock is renewed, the old stock stays at the back, and is only distributed if the stock level drops low enough for sll the newer stock (now in front of the old stock) to have run out. In the case of media like floppy discs, cassettes and even CDR, it is not uncommon for stock to arrive being mixed in age from brand new to months or even sometimes years old. here we go Whilst at University I worked for the Stockport branch of Richer Sounds, the UK's largest volume MD blank retailer. Stockport was their 2nd branch, and is the largest outside London. Previously to that I worked for the local Sony franchisee in York, and have kept in touch with them since I left, so I would have somewhat more knowledge of MD's status and availability than you seem to give me credit for. Originally very few people carried MD, and the wholesalers who dealt with other consumables would not stock them as they were low volume and high cost, at around 10 retail. As the MD market picked up, the retailers of MD blanks sourced *only* from the manufacturers, which led to price stagnation at around 5 per disc. During this time Sony offered it's franchisees a deal whereby they could by 5,000 discs at a reduced cost price. The franchise I worked for did this (after I had left), and was untilmatly to loose out when Richer Sounds started selling their discs at cost price as a loss leader, and eventually sourcing their discs from lower cost manufacturers. When at Richer Sounds, I was frequently left with 'empty warehouse' syndrome - everybody who's ever tried to buy one of the offers from them knows what I'm talking about, and we did try to source from Hitachi-Maxell, Memtek, MPO, Sony and others. ( Sony were the least keen, BTW :-) The odd time we would get some grey import Sony's, but these were never a stable supply. Only know do 'warehouses' have any supply of MD's, and their prices are terrible. Richer Sound's loss-leader price is below their cost price, so imagine what they charge as middlemen to other shops. Their is no margin for them, so THEY DO NOT HOLD STOCK. I cannot say whether the stock is or is not manufactured by a specific company - no longer having the discs I am unable to provide any information that would enable somebody to do that. You sent me a picture, from which I identified it as the same design from a Korean plant that also manufactures for Mitsubishi. The Mitsubishi is identical in all but colour. MPO's discs have a very different style shell. Compare their BASF's and FNAC discs with their own-brand Hi-space. They are identical in all respects, including rivit points, style of printing on the shutter, shading on the left side of the discs etc... the only difference is the colour and name. As I was the owner of the discs and I don't have that information, There is a little strip on the back of the disc, if it says 'Made in E.U' it's an MPO made Memorex, if it says nothing ( blank), it's made in Korea(for some reason that plant does not print the origin on the disc.) There! That wasn't TOO difficult for you, was it? I find it amazing a manufacturer could find a way to tell the batch details and age of any piece of media without even having seen more than a scan on a web page not even originating in the same area. The scan below it on that web-page is the MPO style disc. This is not the same as your disc, correct? Perhaps Arnaud, as sales manager for MPO, knew that none of their Memorex discs had ever been supplied to the UK? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MEMOREX BLOCK ERROR RATE ( long)
Richard Anderson wrote: There is a little strip on the back of the disc, if it says 'Made in E.U' it's an MPO made Memorex, if it says nothing ( blank), it's made in Korea(for some reason that plant does not print the origin on the disc.) There! That wasn't TOO difficult for you, was it? It wouldn't be if I had the disc to look at, but as I don't it's impossible for me to say what is printed on that little strip! The scan below it on that web-page is the MPO style disc. This is not the same as your disc, correct? There were a few discs of that type mixed in with the type I have in the shop stock, and they *did* all arrive in the same package from the warehouse. The discs I had were all of the type in the top picture on the web page you sent, yes. Perhaps Arnaud, as sales manager for MPO, knew that none of their Memorex discs had ever been supplied to the UK? All credit to them if they do, but most manufactureres seem to have trouble keeping track of what is shipped where once their initial delivery has been made, especially with the advent of on-line purchasing. -- Magic Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MEMOREX BLOCK ERROR RATE ( long)
Magic wrote: There were a few discs of that type mixed in with the type I have in the shop stock, and they *did* all arrive in the same package from the warehouse. The discs I had were all of the type in the top picture on the web page you sent, yes. Hmmm. A (small?) shipment made up off discs of different ages from different manufacturers arriving at the same time? Whatever. Usually the least you can buy wholesale is a shrinkwrapped 'bale' of 1000. This consists of 10 boxes of 100 which are themselves usually 20 boxes of 5. These don't usually get split then mixed'n'matched. Most Richer Sounds branches get 2000 discs a week, and they're not split either. I guess your little shop's just special then ;-) Richard __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MEMOREX BLOCK ERROR RATE
Dear all, I am sorry to inform you that due to a very strong competition against Taiwanese manufacturers, European made discs Hi-SPACE/MPO do not manufacture anymore Memoresx MDs for months now. So this problem with these discs is not due to one of ours. Best regards. Arnaud DEVILDER Area Sales Manager MPO Media 40 rue de Paris -ยค- F-92100 Boulogne Billancourt T/F : +33141105175/44 http://www.hi-space.com - http://www.mpo.fr http://www.americdisc.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MEMOREX BLOCK ERROR RATE
"a.devilder" wrote: Dear all, I am sorry to inform you that due to a very strong competition against Taiwanese manufacturers, European made discs Hi-SPACE/MPO do not manufacture anymore Memoresx MDs for months now. So this problem with these discs is not due to one of ours. Presumably this means you have some psychic ability to tell how long the discs were in the warehouse before their eventual resale? -- Magic Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MEMOREX BLOCK ERROR RATE
Arnaud Devilder, Area sales manager of MPO media ( makers of CDR's, MD's, LD's, LP's, DVD's etc...) wrote: Dear all, I am sorry to inform you that due to a very strong competition against Taiwanese manufacturers, European made discs Hi-SPACE/MPO do not manufacture anymore Memoresx MDs for months now. So this problem with these discs is not due to one of ours. Magic sniped: Presumably this means you have some psychic ability to tell how long the discs were in the warehouse before their eventual resale? Due to the constantly falling price of MD media ( hurrah !) I doubt anyone would be foolish to sit on stock for any long period of time, as it's value would have dropped 50% in the last year at market prices. As far as I am aware, Memtek started sourcing their MD's from Korea in the first few months of 1998, long enough for the remaining MPO stock to have been sold, and have only just started selling/distributing in this country. ( Yes, I used to be so sad I had one of every type of disc on the market. Checkout www.justified.com./md for some of my contributions. Hell, I had 2 lens cleaners...!!) The disc you have is Korean. It comes from the same factory as the Mitsubishi discs that have been available for the last couple of months, and is off the same design. It is unusual for a reseller to source from two companies when one is undercutting the other, unless they are tied into a contract. Magic, don't snipe at manufacturers, or they will not stay on this list. Arnaud is fantastic answering technical questions about MD's, and also has replaced faulty discs FROM ANOTHER MANUFACTURER for me, whilst investigating the cause(s) of their failure. Richard __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
