[MBZ] OM617 conversion to generator
We are starting to have several power outages where I stay and I was wondering about getting a spare OM617 ( non turbo ) and hooking it up to an alternator and powering my home . It is a bit of overkill but it also servers the purpose of having a hot standby OM617 on call. ( I have 3 other vehicles with this engine.) The problem I foresee is how to govern the engine to run at a constant 3000 rpm in order to maintain a stable voltage and frequency under varying load. Can the existing MW pump be converted to operate in constant rpm mode? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup - now de-oiling
> What do you suggest to deoil the system? As has been suggested already, any of the fine non-foamy detergents as used in automatic washing machines of various sorts ought to do it, or TSP. > On my 1958 180D the block drain valve is completely blocked and so I > cannot drain water out the block. Should I still derust it with the > risk > of rust particals from elsewhere dropping down to the lowest point and > then not getting out? Nothing we've been discussing does anything about [iron] rust. Merely calcium scale and the like. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup - now de-oiling
What do you suggest to deoil the system? On my 1958 180D the block drain valve is completely blocked and so I cannot drain water out the block. Should I still derust it with the rist of rust particals from elsewhere dropping down to the lowest point and then not getting out? Peter -Original Message- From: Marshall Booth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 July 2007 02:41 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup Luther wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:49:36 -0500, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Luther wrote: >>> Wow, I'm going to disagree with MB's assessment of Citric Acid. I >>> could dip my hands in a bucket of used diesel oil, and then rub them >>> in dirt to completely get the oil worked into my skin. Then, take >>> citric acid and clean the oil/sludge off of my hands faster and more >>> completely than any other soap around. No scrubbing needed (except >>> for under the finger nails). I have been cleaning my hands with >>> citric acid in full strength for several years now. I have also used >>> a diluted solution to clean oil spots left on concrete after working >>> on my cars. It's plain as day, citric acid will cut oil and disolve >>> it. >>> >> Are you using a 5% solution, dry powder or a so called citric acid >> cleaner? >> >> Marshall > > http://www.citra-solv.com/products/allpurpose.html They call it > "Super Concentrated". > That's VERY different from a citric acid solution! Works rather well, but ISN'T a citric acid solution (although there may be some citric acid in it). Ingredient list: D-Limonene (clear liquid from the peel of the orange), Five-fold Orange Oil & Biodegradable Surfactant (derived from coconut). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CIS rebuild kit
Dan, ED - Here is the info I sent to the list back when all the F.D. stuff was going on. I tried to reverse find the fellow from his phone and there appeared to be someone there, they reported data. I couldn't find anything on him on Ebay right now but then I'm not very E-bay literate. Barry - Dave - Here is some of the data I copied from his Ebay add. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DaveC Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 12:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [MB] results of diagnosis - the smoking gun Barry sez: >Bob Contantino turned me onto a guy in >Florida says he worked for Bosch in Germany and has 20 years experience >rebuilding these things. He evidently still has a Bosch connection and can >get internal parts. He will rebuild my distributor for $325 and says he >replaces all internal parts. I imagine that's the soft parts and maybe the >springs or whatever. Sounds like a good deal and it will be adjusted back to >factory specs. So, don't keep us in suspense! Who is he? Dave -- generaltrading711 Rosmar Marcano 3599 Hendry Isles Blvd. Clewiston, FL 33440 USA 7862394745 Seller's payment instructions Customer will pay for shipping, Shipping thru UPS and USPS cost $25.50 including packing, and handling USA continental only. insurance is required $5.00 To ship same day the order must be received by noon time. Please call for international shipping if you have questions please call 786-218-6551 or 786-239-4745 Shipping Cost Services Available Service Transit Time* Available to US $25.50 UPS Ground 1 to 6 business days United States only US $25.50 US Postal Service Priority MailR2 to 3 business daysUnited States only US $75.00 UPS Worldwide ExpeditedSM 2 to 5 business daysWorldwide *Sellers are not responsible for service transit time. Transit times are provided by the carrier, exclude weekends and holidays, and may vary with package origin and destination, particularly during peak periods. Will ship to Worldwide. Shipping insuranceUS $5.00 Required WE REBUILT ALL MODELS 4 CYLINDER $275 + SHIPPING 6 CYLINDER $300 + SHIPPING 8 CYLINDER $325 + SHIPPING WE ARE THE LEADERS REMANUFACTURING BOSCH FUEL INJECTION UNITS PART IS ONLY FOR YOUR ORIGINAL MERCEDES BENZ UNITS ARE BENCH TESTED AND ADJUSTED TO FACTORY SPECS WE OFFER ONE-YEAR WARRANTY UNLIMITED MILEAGE Please read Carefully: TO ORDER THIS PRODUCT YOU WILL NEED TO: O BUY IT NOW O MAIL US YOUR CORE IN REBUILDABLE CONDITION O MAKE YOUR PAYMENT THRU PAYPAL OR MAIL A MONEY ORDER O INCLUDING YOUR SHIPPING, INSURANCE COST AND TAXES IF O YOU RESIDE IN FLORIDA. PLEASE NOTE THAT: 1. Once we receive your core we will send you the same one if we have it in stock or will rebuild yours as you decide. 2. Shipping money is not refundable 3. If you don't have the core you will need to send an additional $300.00 refundable until you send us the core. 4. You are not to open the parts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Loss of power, shuddering upon cold takeoff (manual tranny)
Manual tranny. Brian On 7/10/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:23:59 -0700 "Zoltan Finks" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This should be an easy one: > > > > When the 240D is not warmed up yet, and I try to take off on a hill, I > > get this shuddering and it loses power. I am thinking it feels like > > the clutch is slipping (but I thought clutch slippage was a more > > smooth loss of power and resultant engine revving). > > > > Could it be that the engine is not warmed up enough to produce > > sufficient power for the task and is thus sort of giving up? > > > > I think I have a good clutch in there. Can a cold clutch act like this? > > > > Anyway, I'll stop theorizing and let the question stand. > > Automatic transmission or stick-shift? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
It seems than at Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:28:36 -0400, BillR wrote: > Looks like some of you got good Vanagons. Mine was supposed to be a very > nice model, but quickly was named 'The Anti-Christ' Was that a reference to the Land Rover 88 in "The Gods Must Be Crazy"? -- Philip "Oye, yoy, yoy, yoy, yoy!" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
LarryT wrote: > It may be easier to go to the corner mechanic and have a can of R12 put > in -- That would be my guess... if you don't have gauges, etc. I don't think a mechanic would charge it per Jim's method anyway (not that there is anything wrong with it, but I just don't think they would). > BTW, I am getting my EPA certification so I can buy some r12 and keep it for > the future. But the issue of getting cans of "mystery Freon" is still a > concern -- IMO, I wouldn't worry about it if the can looks old. I can understand the new cans being relabeled, but I think making a can look old is more difficult than just relabeling something. I'm not a fraud expert though ;) G'luck! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
LarryT wrote: > Hi John - > Had a brain hiccup - IIRC that's the price for a 30# tank making it closer > to $28/ pound > > Is that closer? > > Thx for keeping me straight! Sounds much better!! ;-) Thats almost exactly in line with eBay prices when you take into account shipping and that a can is only 12oz... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Might actually be worth it
WARNING - avoid cars from sellers who advertise "ice cold" AC. You know they must be liars. On 7/10/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i'd hit it for $5k. > > On 7/10/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/370634403.html > > The magic words "All service records"... > > > > No affiliation etc... > > > > -Curt > > > > > > - > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > Sunil Hari > 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 513-205-7474 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Loss of power, shuddering upon cold takeoff (manual tranny)
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:23:59 -0700 "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This should be an easy one: > > When the 240D is not warmed up yet, and I try to take off on a hill, I > get this shuddering and it loses power. I am thinking it feels like > the clutch is slipping (but I thought clutch slippage was a more > smooth loss of power and resultant engine revving). > > Could it be that the engine is not warmed up enough to produce > sufficient power for the task and is thus sort of giving up? > > I think I have a good clutch in there. Can a cold clutch act like this? > > Anyway, I'll stop theorizing and let the question stand. Automatic transmission or stick-shift? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
Acid doesn't eat plastic (you ship it in plastic) - organic solvents do. > It will eat through most plastic that isn't HDPE. A acidic/caustic solution > must be far enough away from 7 to do that. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:49:09 -0500, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marshall Booth wrote: >> >> That's VERY different from a citric acid solution! Works rather >> well, but ISN'T a citric acid solution (although there may be some >> citric acid in it). >> >> Ingredient list: D-Limonene (clear liquid from the peel of the orange), >> Five-fold Orange Oil & Biodegradable Surfactant (derived from coconut). >> >> Marshall >> > > The Citra-Solv MIGHT make a good de-oiler, but Blue Dawn, Tide or Spic > and Span are cheaper and should do as good a job. > > Marshall It will eat through most plastic that isn't HDPE. A acidic/caustic solution must be far enough away from 7 to do that. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Loss of power, shuddering upon cold takeoff (manual tranny)
This should be an easy one: When the 240D is not warmed up yet, and I try to take off on a hill, I get this shuddering and it loses power. I am thinking it feels like the clutch is slipping (but I thought clutch slippage was a more smooth loss of power and resultant engine revving). Could it be that the engine is not warmed up enough to produce sufficient power for the task and is thus sort of giving up? I think I have a good clutch in there. Can a cold clutch act like this? Anyway, I'll stop theorizing and let the question stand. Brian 83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL
For you, substitute celery stalks and other appropriate veggies that could clog a drain. A combination of a drain cleaner so strong that a couple of drops burned two $.50 size holes in a shop towel, and the expanding ball insert directly off the 220 pump finally opened it up. 3 hardware stores, 4 days of on and off working on it and almost $100 later it is good as new. I don't ever want to see ham salad again, even in pictures. The 560SEL looks nice, but I never knew they were 5 cylinder engines. At least that is all the ones that were firing on this one. Interior was fair to good, body good, but AC control problems and a questionable AC system, and @$400 for a professional tune up [ok, I would probably try that myself] to find out if the AC was shutting off from a rev sensor, plus the other problems mentioned. Some of the hoses also looked to be cracking. I took a lesson from our list mom and told him for $700 [had to outbid Kaleb] maybe it would be worth a chance, but not the $2,200 he was asking. My guess is he will just keep it to spite folks like me. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL Yet another reason my diet is 99% vegetarian (non-meat but love that seafood!). On 7/10/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My Darling wife dumped two quarts of leftover ham salad down the sink > [and we have had that discussion before]. All clear for the first 8', > the a 90 degree down to another 90 degree and nothing I could find > would get there. > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review
S, if people think that Mercs are expensive to fix and maintain then resale values will remain sensiblehopefully. - Original Message - From: "Zach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 6:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review > > Not bad, aside from the nonsense about "expensive parts" > > > > --- Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
> ok - the jim c. method of "blending on the fly" - what would > I add to my R12 and how would I do it? I have augmented a failing R12 system with propane. (I found that the Schrader valve was loose, explaining the loss.) > do I have to remove the r12 and fill with the other stuff? No. But you will eventually. I use gauges, and when the pressures just don't work out and it doesn't cool right I just vacuum and start over. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL
The problem is if the law finds it first. - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL >> finding stuff like drugs, money and/or guns hidden within them. > > Lawyers, guns, and money? Hey, if _I_ found guns and/or money > hidden inside then lucky for me. (I've no use for either of the > other two commodities.) > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Daimler' $37 billion blunder.
Yeah well back then there was a frenzy of mergers with the thinking being that volume and market share is more important than quality. As I don't have shares in Daimler I couldn't give a rats. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Daimler' $37 billion blunder. > In the August issue of Car & Driver, Csaba (Chubba) Csere, provides > interesting reading on how much it cost Daimler to own Chrysler for 7 > years. Having ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL
Yet another reason my diet is 99% vegetarian (non-meat but love that seafood!). On 7/10/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My Darling wife dumped two quarts of leftover ham salad down the > sink [and we have had that discussion before]. All clear for the first > 8', > the a 90 degree down to another 90 degree and nothing I could find would > get > there. > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
Looks like some of you got good Vanagons. Mine was supposed to be a very nice model, but quickly was named 'The Anti-Christ' and continued to earn that name for the year I had it. I think the door handles worked pretty well, but other than that about all I can say is it didn't kill me. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T On 7/10/07, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vanagons have the evaporator > hung from the ceiling in the rear, with a long channel of ductwork > carrying the cool air all the way forward. Hey, my mom has a Vanagon with that system. I always thought that even if it doesn't cool all that well, at least you can get at the evaporator easily if it leaks! But where's the condensor, I wonder? In the front with the radiator? Are there R-12 pipes running under the car alongside those ridiculously long coolant lines that always leak? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo and several other cars with the engine at the right end ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
Marshall Booth wrote: > Luther wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:49:36 -0500, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Luther wrote: Wow, I'm going to disagree with MB's assessment of Citric Acid. I could dip my hands in a bucket of used diesel oil, and then rub them in dirt to completely get the oil worked into my skin. Then, take citric acid and clean the oil/sludge off of my hands faster and more completely than any other soap around. No scrubbing needed (except for under the finger nails). I have been cleaning my hands with citric acid in full strength for several years now. I have also used a diluted solution to clean oil spots left on concrete after working on my cars. It's plain as day, citric acid will cut oil and disolve it. >>> Are you using a 5% solution, dry powder or a so called citric acid cleaner? >>> >>> Marshall >> http://www.citra-solv.com/products/allpurpose.html They call it "Super >> Concentrated". >> > > That's VERY different from a citric acid solution! Works rather > well, but ISN'T a citric acid solution (although there may be some > citric acid in it). > > Ingredient list: D-Limonene (clear liquid from the peel of the orange), > Five-fold Orange Oil & Biodegradable Surfactant (derived from coconut). > > Marshall > The Citra-Solv MIGHT make a good de-oiler, but Blue Dawn, Tide or Spic and Span are cheaper and should do as good a job. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
Luther wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:49:36 -0500, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Luther wrote: >>> Wow, I'm going to disagree with MB's assessment of Citric Acid. I >>> could dip my >>> hands in a bucket of used diesel oil, and then rub them in dirt to >>> completely >>> get the oil worked into my skin. Then, take citric acid and clean the >>> oil/sludge off of my hands faster and more completely than any other soap >>> around. No scrubbing needed (except for under the finger nails). I have >>> been >>> cleaning my hands with citric acid in full strength for several years now. >>> I have also used a diluted solution to clean oil spots left on concrete >>> after >>> working on my cars. It's plain as day, citric acid will cut oil and disolve >>> it. >>> >> Are you using a 5% solution, dry powder or a so called citric acid cleaner? >> >> Marshall > > http://www.citra-solv.com/products/allpurpose.html They call it "Super > Concentrated". > That's VERY different from a citric acid solution! Works rather well, but ISN'T a citric acid solution (although there may be some citric acid in it). Ingredient list: D-Limonene (clear liquid from the peel of the orange), Five-fold Orange Oil & Biodegradable Surfactant (derived from coconut). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:23:34 -0500 Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are you using a 5% solution, dry powder or a so called citric acid > > cleaner? > > > > Marshall > > http://www.citra-solv.com/products/allpurpose.html They call it "Super > Concentrated". Uh ... that's not citric acid. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:49:36 -0500, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Luther wrote: >> Wow, I'm going to disagree with MB's assessment of Citric Acid. I >> could dip my >> hands in a bucket of used diesel oil, and then rub them in dirt to completely >> get the oil worked into my skin. Then, take citric acid and clean the >> oil/sludge off of my hands faster and more completely than any other soap >> around. No scrubbing needed (except for under the finger nails). I have >> been >> cleaning my hands with citric acid in full strength for several years now. >> I have also used a diluted solution to clean oil spots left on concrete after >> working on my cars. It's plain as day, citric acid will cut oil and disolve >> it. >> > > Are you using a 5% solution, dry powder or a so called citric acid cleaner? > > Marshall http://www.citra-solv.com/products/allpurpose.html They call it "Super Concentrated". -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Timing Chain parts
I know I've posted about this before, but I want to make sure everyone has a chance to hear about it. I have all the parts someone would need to change the timing chain in a 617 engine. I bought them for a 1982 300SD Turbodiesel that I had, but have since junked that car. These parts should also work in other cars from 1980-1985 with a 5-cyl diesel engine. I am looking for ~$100 for everything all together, but shoot me your best offer. I need to get rid of these things and it would be a shame for me and someone in search of these parts to have to throw them away. Please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
Luther wrote: > Wow, I'm going to disagree with MB's assessment of Citric Acid. I > could dip my > hands in a bucket of used diesel oil, and then rub them in dirt to completely > get the oil worked into my skin. Then, take citric acid and clean the > oil/sludge off of my hands faster and more completely than any other soap > around. No scrubbing needed (except for under the finger nails). I have been > cleaning my hands with citric acid in full strength for several years now. > I have also used a diluted solution to clean oil spots left on concrete after > working on my cars. It's plain as day, citric acid will cut oil and disolve > it. > Are you using a 5% solution, dry powder or a so called citric acid cleaner? Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
Hi John - Had a brain hiccup - IIRC that's the price for a 30# tank making it closer to $28/ pound Is that closer? Thx for keeping me straight! ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T > LarryT wrote: >> I believe the taxes make current legal prices around $850./ pound > > Where on earth did you come up with that number? Is that how much it > would cost to buy new R12 manufactured in the US or something? That > certainly isn't the market price! > > John > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/891 - Release Date: 7/8/2007 > 6:32 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
ok - the jim c. method of "blending on the fly" - what would I add to my R12 and how would I do it? do I have to remove the r12 and fill with the other stuff? It may be easier to go to the corner mechanic and have a can of R12 put in -- BTW, I am getting my EPA certification so I can buy some r12 and keep it for the future. But the issue of getting cans of "mystery Freon" is still a concern -- Thanks to all who wrote & helped -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: "Craig McCluskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:57:06 -0700 Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I love the Gaz d' Cathey method precisely because I can top-up R12 >> "on-the-fly". I just did my once a year top-up in the Vanagon (~$7), >> and recorded 33 degree vent temps in the front. > > With outlet temperatures that low, your evaporator temperature is most > likely less than 32 F, which means if you get any moisture, you'll freeze > up your evaporator and then get no cooling because air can't flow through > the evaporator. > > >> As an aside, one thing I really dig about the overhead design is that I >> can train one of the vents to blow on the backside of my head and >> neck--very cool. > > No pun intended, of course! :-) > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/891 - Release Date: 7/8/2007 > 6:32 PM > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
Negative, sir. That is any oil you give me. Mobile 1 Diesel Truck, Delvac 1300, Delo400, or anyother lesser grade oil. You bring it, I'll clean it. I even clean shop rags with the stuff. Luther On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:39:11 -0500, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, but that isn't Mobil1 diesel-rated oil (it doesn't matter which > flavor) -- it requires a special synthetic cleanser that costs a lot > more, and lasts much longer. > > --R > > Luther wrote: >> Wow, I'm going to disagree with MB's assessment of Citric Acid. I >> could dip my >> hands in a bucket of used diesel oil, and then rub them in dirt to completely >> get the oil worked into my skin. Then, take citric acid and clean the >> oil/sludge off of my hands faster and more completely than any other soap >> around. No scrubbing needed (except for under the finger nails). I have >> been >> cleaning my hands with citric acid in full strength for several years now. >> I have also used a diluted solution to clean oil spots left on concrete after >> working on my cars. It's plain as day, citric acid will cut oil and disolve >> it. >> > -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
that explains quite a bit --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup > Wow, I'm going to disagree with MB's assessment of Citric Acid. I > could dip my > hands in a bucket of used diesel oil, and then rub them in dirt to > completely > get the oil worked into my skin. Then, take citric acid and clean the > oil/sludge off of my hands faster and more completely than any other soap > around. No scrubbing needed (except for under the finger nails). I have > been > cleaning my hands with citric acid in full strength for several years now. > I have also used a diluted solution to clean oil spots left on concrete > after > working on my cars. It's plain as day, citric acid will cut oil and > disolve > it. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:31:47 -0400 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A web site that describes the pros and cons of old "beater" cars > takes on the MBZ 123: > > http://www.beaterreview.com/botw/BeaterReview_botw_18.htm The bottom video was taken at Morro Rock at Morro Bay, California, on the coast from San Luis Obispo (we used to live a few miles south of there). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:22:40 -0500 "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been cleaning my hands with citric acid in full strength for > several years now. I have also used a diluted solution to clean oil > spots left on concrete after working on my cars. It's plain as day, > citric acid will cut oil and disolve it. We'll I'll be! But how are your hands? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:57:06 -0700 Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I love the Gaz d' Cathey method precisely because I can top-up R12 > "on-the-fly". I just did my once a year top-up in the Vanagon (~$7), > and recorded 33 degree vent temps in the front. With outlet temperatures that low, your evaporator temperature is most likely less than 32 F, which means if you get any moisture, you'll freeze up your evaporator and then get no cooling because air can't flow through the evaporator. > As an aside, one thing I really dig about the overhead design is that I > can train one of the vents to blow on the backside of my head and > neck--very cool. No pun intended, of course! :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this guy should be beaten too!
On 7/9/07, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/car/370261500.html > > Obviously, this guy was on some meds or maybe, he just happened to have this > engine/tranny lying around. How would a 616 or 617 fit into this chassis? That's it! That's what I've been looking for! I'm on the first flight to OR -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
Yeah, but that isn't Mobil1 diesel-rated oil (it doesn't matter which flavor) -- it requires a special synthetic cleanser that costs a lot more, and lasts much longer. --R Luther wrote: > Wow, I'm going to disagree with MB's assessment of Citric Acid. I > could dip my > hands in a bucket of used diesel oil, and then rub them in dirt to completely > get the oil worked into my skin. Then, take citric acid and clean the > oil/sludge off of my hands faster and more completely than any other soap > around. No scrubbing needed (except for under the finger nails). I have been > cleaning my hands with citric acid in full strength for several years now. > I have also used a diluted solution to clean oil spots left on concrete after > working on my cars. It's plain as day, citric acid will cut oil and disolve > it. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
Wow, I'm going to disagree with MB's assessment of Citric Acid. I could dip my hands in a bucket of used diesel oil, and then rub them in dirt to completely get the oil worked into my skin. Then, take citric acid and clean the oil/sludge off of my hands faster and more completely than any other soap around. No scrubbing needed (except for under the finger nails). I have been cleaning my hands with citric acid in full strength for several years now. I have also used a diluted solution to clean oil spots left on concrete after working on my cars. It's plain as day, citric acid will cut oil and disolve it. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine Quoting Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Fmiser wrote: >> It seems than at Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:46:15 +0200, Peter wrote: >> >>> When doing a citric acid cleanup of the cooling system should one place >>> a filter eg stocking to catch all the bricks that might get released >>> from inside the block ? >>> Peter >> >> The citric acid is to de-oil the system. It does little or >> nothing for scale, lime, rust, bricks, etc. > > WRONG! Read section 20-015 in the 601 engine manual (or the same section > in other manuals) on cleaning the cooling system or any chemistry text > on dissolving salt scale. Citric acid (or any acid) will allow the > lime/calcium/scale to go into solution. It does NOTHING for oil. A > deoiling compound is required. > > Mercedes lists one available in Europe. Liquid Tide works rather well > and I expect that Blue Dawn dishwashing detergent would work but I've > never tried it for that purpose. > > Marshall > -- > Marshall Booth Ph.D. > Ass't Prof. (ret.) > Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this guy should be beaten too!
There was a sister site as well up north. Presently a huge shopping complex and native casino venture. The natives had nothing to do with it, but those backwood inbred folks across the highway are a wonder. On Jul 10, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: > Battleground, wasn't that the site of a secret inbreeding > experiment gone > awry, back in the late forties? > > On 7/10/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Yeah, but he is in Battle Ground. that is like West Virginia, so >> he may >> not be expected to know better >> > > Casey > __ > '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel > '94 100CSQ Avant > '90 90Q > '89 Bluestar > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review
Those guys are on crack. If I knew where I could find a GTI 16V for $1K I'd buy a cargo container full and resell them for five times that. On 7/10/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not bad, aside from the nonsense about "expensive parts" > > > > --- Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A web site that describes the pros and cons of old "beater" cars > > takes on the MBZ 123: > > > > http://www.beaterreview.com/botw/BeaterReview_botw_18.htm > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
On 7/10/07, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vanagons have the evaporator > hung from the ceiling in the rear, with a long channel of ductwork carrying > the cool air all the way forward. Hey, my mom has a Vanagon with that system. I always thought that even if it doesn't cool all that well, at least you can get at the evaporator easily if it leaks! But where's the condensor, I wonder? In the front with the radiator? Are there R-12 pipes running under the car alongside those ridiculously long coolant lines that always leak? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo and several other cars with the engine at the right end ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review
Not bad, aside from the nonsense about "expensive parts" --- Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A web site that describes the pros and cons of old "beater" cars > takes on the MBZ 123: > > http://www.beaterreview.com/botw/BeaterReview_botw_18.htm > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123 Beater Review
A web site that describes the pros and cons of old "beater" cars takes on the MBZ 123: http://www.beaterreview.com/botw/BeaterReview_botw_18.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this guy should be beaten too!
Battleground, wasn't that the site of a secret inbreeding experiment gone awry, back in the late forties? On 7/10/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, but he is in Battle Ground. that is like West Virginia, so he may > not be expected to know better > Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this guy should be beaten too!
Yeah, but he is in Battle Ground. that is like West Virginia, so he may not be expected to know better clay On Jul 9, 2007, at 7:31 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: > http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/car/370261500.html > > Obviously, this guy was on some meds or maybe, he just happened to > have this > engine/tranny lying around. How would a 616 or 617 fit into this > chassis? > > Kevin in Portland, OR > 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
Do they still sell that stuff nowadays? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Peter T. Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:30:01 -0400, you wrote: > >>Fmiser wrote: >>> It seems than at Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:46:15 +0200, Peter wrote: >>> When doing a citric acid cleanup of the cooling system should one place a filter eg stocking to catch all the bricks that might get released from inside the block ? Peter >>> >>> The citric acid is to de-oil the system. It does little or >>> nothing for scale, lime, rust, bricks, etc. >> >>WRONG! Read section 20-015 in the 601 engine manual (or the same section >>in other manuals) on cleaning the cooling system or any chemistry text >>on dissolving salt scale. Citric acid (or any acid) will allow the >>lime/calcium/scale to go into solution. It does NOTHING for oil. A >>deoiling compound is required. >> >>Mercedes lists one available in Europe. Liquid Tide works rather well >>and I expect that Blue Dawn dishwashing detergent would work but I've >>never tried it for that purpose. >> >>Marshall > Years ago, we used Spic&Span, which is nothing more than scented > T.S.P. > YOU only need about 2 tablespoons with hot fresh water, it will clean > a dirty mind! > > -- > > Regards, > > Peter T. Arnold > > 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! > 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson > 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi > 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen > Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
I love the Gaz d' Cathey method precisely because I can top-up R12 "on-the-fly". I just did my once a year top-up in the Vanagon (~$7), and recorded 33 degree vent temps in the front. Vanagons have the evaporator hung from the ceiling in the rear, with a long channel of ductwork carrying the cool air all the way forward. It's a small miracle that I get any coolness factor at all, let alone near freezing temps up there. As an aside, one thing I really dig about the overhead design is that I can train one of the vents to blow on the backside of my head and neck--very cool. On 7/8/07, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They are usually blends, which means if you do have a leak you have to > vacuum out and start over (except for Jim C. who blends his on the fly!). > Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel --> blown turbo '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:30:01 -0400, you wrote: >Fmiser wrote: >> It seems than at Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:46:15 +0200, Peter wrote: >> >>> When doing a citric acid cleanup of the cooling system should one place >>> a filter eg stocking to catch all the bricks that might get released >>> from inside the block ? >>> Peter >> >> The citric acid is to de-oil the system. It does little or >> nothing for scale, lime, rust, bricks, etc. > >WRONG! Read section 20-015 in the 601 engine manual (or the same section >in other manuals) on cleaning the cooling system or any chemistry text >on dissolving salt scale. Citric acid (or any acid) will allow the >lime/calcium/scale to go into solution. It does NOTHING for oil. A >deoiling compound is required. > >Mercedes lists one available in Europe. Liquid Tide works rather well >and I expect that Blue Dawn dishwashing detergent would work but I've >never tried it for that purpose. > >Marshall Years ago, we used Spic&Span, which is nothing more than scented T.S.P. YOU only need about 2 tablespoons with hot fresh water, it will clean a dirty mind! -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
Fmiser wrote: > It seems than at Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:46:15 +0200, Peter wrote: > >> When doing a citric acid cleanup of the cooling system should one place >> a filter eg stocking to catch all the bricks that might get released >> from inside the block ? >> Peter > > The citric acid is to de-oil the system. It does little or > nothing for scale, lime, rust, bricks, etc. WRONG! Read section 20-015 in the 601 engine manual (or the same section in other manuals) on cleaning the cooling system or any chemistry text on dissolving salt scale. Citric acid (or any acid) will allow the lime/calcium/scale to go into solution. It does NOTHING for oil. A deoiling compound is required. Mercedes lists one available in Europe. Liquid Tide works rather well and I expect that Blue Dawn dishwashing detergent would work but I've never tried it for that purpose. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our next vehicle (replacing the 2006 Dodge Ram Diesel
They are a Chevy one ton truck chassis underneath a big aluminum body and a GVW of 14K. Not as powerful as your 06 but no slouch either. Mike > Might want to have them watch the DoveBid auctions and get a Frito Lay > vanWould work great for that and the Cummins powered ones get > close to 30MPG loaded. > > Do you think one of these Cummins 4BT or 4BTA equipped vans could be fully > loaded and pull 6500# worth of boats behind it? > > Kevin in Portland, OR > 1983 300SD 267kmi, Ursula > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
I think it's better to disconnect hoses and flush manually. This avoids a potential failure/leak from the Prestone fitting. More important, it lets you selectively flush the system as it is important not to flush debris into the old Chrysler ACC servo (pre 1981, I think). The smooth ended hose nozzles sold at dollar stores fit the heater hoses nicely for back flushing the heater core and other hoses (just don't flush into the ACC servo). You can/should flush the servo or monovalve but with clean water only. Then flush the radiator and motor. Just my opinion Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 14:11 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup Has anyone installed one of those Prestone backflush adapters on an OM617? Where, exactly, should it be spliced in to the system? Or is it not a good idea at all? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
I have used them several times. It installed in the line coming out of the drivers side of the block back to the firewall, by the oil filter. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup > Has anyone installed one of those Prestone backflush adapters on an > OM617? Where, exactly, should it be spliced in to the system? > > Or is it not a good idea at all? > > Allan > > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our next vehicle (replacing the 2006 Dodge Ram Diesel
Might want to have them watch the DoveBid auctions and get a Frito Lay vanWould work great for that and the Cummins powered ones get close to 30MPG loaded. Do you think one of these Cummins 4BT or 4BTA equipped vans could be fully loaded and pull 6500# worth of boats behind it? Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
Has anyone installed one of those Prestone backflush adapters on an OM617? Where, exactly, should it be spliced in to the system? Or is it not a good idea at all? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
Actually it does not deoil the system, that is supposed to be done before doing the citric acid. The acid gets rid of the deposits. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Fmiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup > It seems than at Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:46:15 +0200, Peter wrote: > >> When doing a citric acid cleanup of the cooling system should one place >> a filter eg stocking to catch all the bricks that might get released >> from inside the block ? >> Peter > > The citric acid is to de-oil the system. It does little or > nothing for scale, lime, rust, bricks, etc. > > --Philip > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL
Thanks Hendrik - I might discover a new way to live high on the hog If I like it I will be taking it to my nephew to check out. That all depends on IF this latest attempt [with an expanding ball] to clear my kitchen drain works. My Darling wife dumped two quarts of leftover ham salad down the sink [and we have had that discussion before]. All clear for the first 8', the a 90 degree down to another 90 degree and nothing I could find would get there. NOTE to other DIY'ers: those expanding ball drain clearers [or at least the ones I used] did nothing until I turned on the hot water. Then it expanded. Have not re installed all the pipes yet to see if it worked, but it sounded like it did. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 291k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL Nothing more expensive than a cheap Merc. Check for rust, auto tranny operation and how the engine starts cold. A new seat base and window winder are small fry in the scheme of things. The air con could be just a couple of O rings or more expesnive than that but no way of telling until the system has some dye in it. For 2.2k you can't expect too much when you are buying a car that was a lot of money to buy new. Although if you do end up buying this car, check for drugs throughout it. Apparently these machines are favoured by middle level drug dealers due to the status and performance. You do hear urban legends about people buying used top end luxury cars and finding stuff like drugs, money and/or guns hidden within them. - Original Message - From: "BillR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] '89 560SEL > Hi - I'm still looking for a reasonably cheap vehicle for my daughter to > drive while awaiting the ability to buy Donald's 300SEL. A guy a few > miles > South of me has a 1989 560SEL with 200,080 miles and 'needs some Freon'. > I > know these can be expensive to get into decent shape if not cared for > properly. What should I look for should I go check this one out? He says > that one of the widows needs 'some gear thing', and is asking $2,200. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
Fmiser wrote: > The citric acid is to de-oil the system. It does little or > nothing for scale, lime, rust, bricks, etc. Isn't it the other way around? My understanding was that you have to de-oil the system before you do a citric acid flush... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
It seems than at Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:46:15 +0200, Peter wrote: > When doing a citric acid cleanup of the cooling system should one place > a filter eg stocking to catch all the bricks that might get released > from inside the block ? > Peter The citric acid is to de-oil the system. It does little or nothing for scale, lime, rust, bricks, etc. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL
May I just say that I hope you never really need a lawyer. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL > finding stuff like drugs, money and/or guns hidden within them. Lawyers, guns, and money? Hey, if _I_ found guns and/or money hidden inside then lucky for me. (I've no use for either of the other two commodities.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Might actually be worth it
i'd hit it for $5k. On 7/10/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/370634403.html > The magic words "All service records"... > > No affiliation etc... > > -Curt > > > - > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL
> finding stuff like drugs, money and/or guns hidden within them. Lawyers, guns, and money? Hey, if _I_ found guns and/or money hidden inside then lucky for me. (I've no use for either of the other two commodities.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Might actually be worth it
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/370634403.html The magic words "All service records"... No affiliation etc... -Curt - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
LarryT wrote: > I believe the taxes make current legal prices around $850./ pound Where on earth did you come up with that number? Is that how much it would cost to buy new R12 manufactured in the US or something? That certainly isn't the market price! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Daimler' $37 billion blunder.
In the August issue of Car & Driver, Csaba (Chubba) Csere, provides interesting reading on how much it cost Daimler to own Chrysler for 7 years. Having paid 36 billion for Chrysler and then selling it for only 7.5 billion is bad enough, but Csaba goes on to say that the 7.5 billion received by Daimler, most went back to the new Chrysler Co.. WHEEE! No wonder Mercedes has been squeezing the nickel! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
On 7/10/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's possible to buy a 12oz can and it be illegally imported > freon that's been repackaged - the smuggleing is very big business and if > they have to sell in cans that look new they will buy (or acquire) the > equipment needed to package it -. This is exactly what I'm afraid of---what's to stop a crook from packaging R22 (or something that would work even less well in an R12 system, like R134a) the same way? Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:46:15 +0200 "Peter Merle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When doing a citric acid cleanup of the cooling system should one place > a filter eg stocking to catch all the bricks that might get released > from inside the block ? No. They come out when you drain the block and when you flush it with clear water. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
Tom wrote<> You;re so right! I used to work for one of th 2 major chemical companies who made Freon (so I used to hear about this stuff ) and other R12 products with other names - just like smuggling cocaine, pot, etc, there's a huge profit in freon - where it used to sold for a profit in FLAPS for $1/12oz can, now it;s being smuggled across our southern borders in tanker trucks so when it reachs the US it can be repackaged and sold. Some is sold to individuals using ebay etc but a lot is sold to shops needing r12 for customers.It's possible to buy a 12oz can and it be illegally imported freon that's been repackaged - the smuggleing is very big business and if they have to sell in cans that look new they will buy (or acquire) the equipment needed to package it -. I believe the taxes make current legal prices around $850./ pound - making for more profit than drugs and *much* less legal problems. The prison time for smuggleing freon is wy less than smuggling drugs -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T > Wherever there is profit, there is fraud and the same is true for freon. > This is why I only buy R12 in 12 oz cans over the net. They are > punctured when used & can't be filled & resealed. > > > Original Message > From: John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 07/09/07 03:31 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Alex Chamberlain wrote: >> Can you trust an eBay seller of R12, though? I'd be leery that the >> cans had been relabled and actually contained whatever-ethane. Maybe >> if they have some kind of factory seal like the Microsoft holograms on >> genuine Windows CDs (not that those can't be forged, too, but >> apparently it's a little bit of reassurance). > > Get ones that have rust and aged labels? > > John > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/891 - Release Date: 7/8/2007 > 6:32 PM > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL
Nothing more expensive than a cheap Merc. Check for rust, auto tranny operation and how the engine starts cold. A new seat base and window winder are small fry in the scheme of things. The air con could be just a couple of O rings or more expesnive than that but no way of telling until the system has some dye in it. For 2.2k you can't expect too much when you are buying a car that was a lot of money to buy new. Although if you do end up buying this car, check for drugs throughout it. Apparently these machines are favoured by middle level drug dealers due to the status and performance. You do hear urban legends about people buying used top end luxury cars and finding stuff like drugs, money and/or guns hidden within them. - Original Message - From: "BillR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] '89 560SEL > Hi - I'm still looking for a reasonably cheap vehicle for my daughter to > drive while awaiting the ability to buy Donald's 300SEL. A guy a few > miles > South of me has a 1989 560SEL with 200,080 miles and 'needs some Freon'. > I > know these can be expensive to get into decent shape if not cared for > properly. What should I look for should I go check this one out? He says > that one of the widows needs 'some gear thing', and is asking $2,200. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Citric acid cleanup
When doing a citric acid cleanup of the cooling system should one place a filter eg stocking to catch all the bricks that might get released from inside the block ? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '89 560SEL
Hi - I'm still looking for a reasonably cheap vehicle for my daughter to drive while awaiting the ability to buy Donald's 300SEL. A guy a few miles South of me has a 1989 560SEL with 200,080 miles and 'needs some Freon'. I know these can be expensive to get into decent shape if not cared for properly. What should I look for should I go check this one out? He says that one of the widows needs 'some gear thing', and is asking $2,200. <<< I have owned this car since Christmas of 2005 and must part with it at this price for the next 24 hours only. The front seats on bottom need recovering...they have duct tape covering the leather. Belts, hoses, water pump, and valve cover gaskets replaced approx 800 miles ago. HI again there is a small dent that can be popped out on the hood noticeable when one looks at an angle. Also one on the rear part on the side also barely noticeable but there. I would put in some refridgerant in the A.C. as I never have and this summer it needs it. Accsessories all work however the driver's window needs a gear piece replaced I would figure on five hundred at a dealer. NO rust good stereo central vacuum etc and it would be a lot eaiser to just talk by phone for any other details, the sunroof is just fine and never leaks or makes any unusual noises Never had any failures or troubles. Enjoy, I have. Stephen Thanks - Bill ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Probably worth every penny
You ought to go over and get her to put a 3-pointed star on your forehead, full-size. --R Robert Rentfro wrote: > While at the bike shop today, saw a ratty old '71 250 driven by a > tattooed/pierced woman with her tattooed/pierced skater/BMXer son in tow. > She gave me a hearty thumbs up when I pulled in and parked next to her. She > had her car emblazoned with ads for her ink joint. Really nice gal, very > polite son and sweet old whip. > > Bob R. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dodge diesel conversions, Was: 300D Dodge Dakota
The first link is much more in line with what I am doing. The link I posted for M-Series Rebuild and Repower shows what I dream of being able to do with my M37. Mike > It seems than at Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:09:43 -0500, OK wrote: > >> Is this what you're talking about? >> >> http://www.garbee.net/~cabell/ > > Or > http://www.dodgepowerwagon.com/ > http://www.vintagepowerwagons.com/ > > -- Philip > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our next vehicle (replacing the 2006 Dodge Ram Diesel
Might want to have them watch the DoveBid auctions and get a Frito Lay vanWould work great for that and the Cummins powered ones get close to 30MPG loaded. Mike > Luckily, nothing has happened while people's personal vehicles have been > transporting gear and boats. However, up until recently, there was no > such > insurance which infuriated me! The question came up at a board meeting > (how > much insurance do we have, and does it cover personal vehicles even if our > club doesn't own any?" It was rectified the next day. It is better to > "have your ducks in a row now than pulling the gerbil out of the rear end > later." There is a plan in the works involving the purchase of a cube van > to use as the gear/boat transporter. It would be the "race Transport > Unit," > basically everything needed to run a dragon boat race right there in the > truck all inventoried and ready to go, no counting, loading and unloading > before every race. I hope it has enough steam to be approved. > > Kevin in Portland, OR > 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CIS rebuild kit
I also thought that the fuel distributer was the problem on my SLC - turned out to be ALL the rubber in the fuel and intake system was rock hard and leaking, as well as all the bolts on the right side of the intake manifold were finger loose -- On 7/10/07, Barry Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trampas - > before I found the real cause of my problems, I was pretty sure that my fuel > dist. was the problem. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
