Re: [MBZ] OT - fires

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 16:37:42 -0900 Clay via Mercedes
 wrote:

> That is foggy data.  Seems somebody thought there were 60k real natives
> back when the Russians owned the space.  Current real native population
> is about twice that.  White folk back 70 years or so were mostly on
> bases, with a small population of a few thousands civilians colonizing
> or small time placer mining.  Well under 100k humans.

And how many are there now?


Craig

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[MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Kaleb,
I realized I left out the assumption per your email that you would do a fresh 
install on the new SSD drive of Win 10 Pro.  That way when you move the apps, 
etc. from the old drive to the SSD all should be well.  Check to be sure 
PCMover will go from Win7 to Win10.  It's been a few years since I've used it, 
but I'll have to again soon as I'm moving my apps, etc. from my old Vostros to 
the newer Vostros. 
Sorry for jumping ahead.  The little gray cells get mixed up the older I get :-)
Again, good luck,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] More windows 10 update

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Kaleb,
Sorry to hear you are still having problems.  Do you have another PC?  If so 
you can do the following.  Put your secondary drive (your original) into the 
second PC.  Hopefully, it will boot ok.  If it does, you can use PCMover to 
move all your apps from the second PC back to your original PC which would save 
you a lot of time.  PCMover doesn't move the OS, only the apps and files and 
settings.  I still think there is something about your Ultimate version of Win7 
that Win10 Pro does not like.  I've used Win10 Pro now for over 3 years and I 
like it better than Win7 Pro and I really liked Win7 Pro.
Good luck and again call me if I can help.
Best Wishes,
Roger
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[MBZ] Firefox attacks: Homeland Security urges all users to update browsers immediately in rare warning

[Craig via Mercedes]

I ran across this article today,

https://www.fastcompany.com/90450626/firefox-attacks-homeland-security-urges-mac-users-to-update-browsers-immediately-in-rare-warning

dated 01-10-209:21 am.


I searched for more authoritative information and found,

https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/current-activity/2019/10/23/mozilla-releases-security-updates-firefox-and-firefox-esr

So, fastcompany.com is about 3 months late.

Both of these sources say, "The version you want to be running (ie: that
is safe from the vulnerability) is Firefox 72.0.1 and Firefox ESR 68.4.1
or higher. Firefox browsers for mobile devices are not known to be
affected."

My current Firefox was version 71.0, but is now 72.0.1.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] So it needs an engine but looks pretty clean

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I have an engine for it, actually, if anyone is interested.  Might need a 
different oil filter adapter, it' from an SL.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - fires

[Clay via Mercedes]

> 
> 2020, at 9:52 AM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 08:27:14 -0500 dan--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I never had a desire to stay. While it’s a beautiful place, and I was
>> privileged to see parts of it that few people ever do, it was
>> depressing for a number of reasons.
> 
> - the isolation,
> - the cold in winter,
> - the short (or non-existent) days in winter,
> - the short summer season,
> - unfriendly, unwelcoming people,

I am told that folks here are of the very friendly sort, being all frontier 
ethos, look out for each other or we all die.  Nobody is rude and cold shoulder 
as it is in Seattle.  I think it may not be as open and welcoming as some more 
vivacious nations, but the people (not drunk or on drugs/homeless) are looking 
for more of their tribe to claim.  Sort of the Vegan principle.  Always looking 
for somebody else who eats food that food eats

> - the high cost of everything,
> - the lack of suitable roads to go anywhere,
> - ?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - fires

[Clay via Mercedes]

> On Jan 9, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 17:45:00 -0900 Clay via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I learned that in 1955 over 50% of the food consumed in AK was locally
>> grown.  Now only 5% is local.
> 
> How does the population now compare to that of 1955?

That is foggy data.  Seems somebody thought there were 60k real natives back 
when the Russians owned the space.  Current real native population is about 
twice that.  White folk back 70 years or so were mostly on bases, with a small 
population of a few thousands civilians colonizing or small time placer mining. 
 Well under 100k humans.

> 
> 
>> The lecturer and audience of old farts were quite vocal and emotional
>> about how it was not socially justice enough.
> 
> Huh?

Food security - the natives are eating western food and getting mega illness, 
while Greta Thunderburg is making the arctic too warm for critter hunting and 
fishing to keep traditional food on the table.  That white folks are evil and 
not eating enough local produce, as it is much less expensive to have it barged 
up than to support the hobby farm ecosystem costs the environment requires.  
Much raised voices and irrational discourse ensues

> 
> 
> Craig

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Re: [MBZ] What is the switch by the shifter?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Learn something new everyday.

On 1/10/2020 7:19 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

European 722.3 transmissions could be had with a sport/normal switch that
changed shift behavior

Jaime


On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 10:49 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Mercedes-Benz-500-Series/202873604760?hash=item2f3c358a98:g:6N4AAOSw2H1eCJeG


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Re: [MBZ] What is the switch by the shifter?

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

European 722.3 transmissions could be had with a sport/normal switch that
changed shift behavior

Jaime


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>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Mercedes-Benz-500-Series/202873604760?hash=item2f3c358a98:g:6N4AAOSw2H1eCJeG
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Re: [MBZ] What is the switch by the shifter?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Rear window shade?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 10, 2020 4:03:58 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes :

> Windows, mirror and radio fader in the wood panel, but you knew that.
> Seat heaters between shifter and radio.
> I don't know what the heck that thing left of the shifter that looks like a
> factory installed slide switch is for.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - RIP - Neal Peart

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I should add that when Alex did this he was alleged to have a paper bag over 
his head with a face drawn on it. This apparently pissed off the guys in Kiss 
and also cause their groupies to flee.

-D stories from the road


> On Jan 10, 2020, at 7:43 PM, dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, the whole story about him just taking off after their deaths is really 
> sad. Apparently, Geddy and Alex heard little from him the whole time and were 
> really concerned about the band ever getting back together.
> 
> I heard some really wild stories about them from their crew about when they 
> toured as an opening act for Kiss. The guys in Kiss thought there was 
> something wrong with them because they didn’t party or have all the groupies. 
> They used to barge into the room where Kiss would be having all their 
> post-concert debauchery and harsh everyone’s buzz. I don’t recall if it was 
> Paul or Ace that Alex used to purposely try and bust up his groupie hookups 
> on occasion just to mess with him. At least that’s what I was told.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Bummer. Neil Peart of Rush passed on Tuesday of glioblastoma.
>>> I was lucky enough to meet him a few times while working a number of their 
>>> tours through the midwest from 1978-1982. Everyone in the band was really 
>>> nice, and very kind to the crew.
>>> Fly by night, Neil!
>> 
>> 
>> His daughter and his partner went way too soon.
>> May they be with him always.
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Rider-Travels-Healing-Road/dp/1550225464
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Re: [MBZ] OT - RIP - Neal Peart

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Yeah, the whole story about him just taking off after their deaths is really 
sad. Apparently, Geddy and Alex heard little from him the whole time and were 
really concerned about the band ever getting back together.

I heard some really wild stories about them from their crew about when they 
toured as an opening act for Kiss. The guys in Kiss thought there was something 
wrong with them because they didn’t party or have all the groupies. They used 
to barge into the room where Kiss would be having all their post-concert 
debauchery and harsh everyone’s buzz. I don’t recall if it was Paul or Ace that 
Alex used to purposely try and bust up his groupie hookups on occasion just to 
mess with him. At least that’s what I was told.

-D

> On Jan 10, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Bummer. Neil Peart of Rush passed on Tuesday of glioblastoma.
>> I was lucky enough to meet him a few times while working a number of their 
>> tours through the midwest from 1978-1982. Everyone in the band was really 
>> nice, and very kind to the crew.
>> Fly by night, Neil!
> 
> 
> His daughter and his partner went way too soon.
> May they be with him always.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Rider-Travels-Healing-Road/dp/1550225464
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[MBZ] So it needs an engine but looks pretty clean

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

1975 Mercedes 450 SEL V8 FIRM

https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-louis-1975-mercedes-450-sel-v8/7053343061.html


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Re: [MBZ] OT - RIP - Neal Peart

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Bummer. Neil Peart of Rush passed on Tuesday of glioblastoma.

I was lucky enough to meet him a few times while working a number of their 
tours through the midwest from 1978-1982. Everyone in the band was really nice, 
and very kind to the crew.

Fly by night, Neil!



His daughter and his partner went way too soon.
May they be with him always.

https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Rider-Travels-Healing-Road/dp/1550225464

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[MBZ] OT - RIP - Neal Peart

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Bummer. Neil Peart of Rush passed on Tuesday of glioblastoma.

I was lucky enough to meet him a few times while working a number of their 
tours through the midwest from 1978-1982. Everyone in the band was really nice, 
and very kind to the crew.

Fly by night, Neil!

-D
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Re: [MBZ] What is the switch by the shifter?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Windows, mirror and radio fader in the wood panel, but you knew that.
Seat heaters between shifter and radio.
I don't know what the heck that thing left of the shifter that looks like a 
factory installed slide switch is for.


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Re: [MBZ] More windows 10 update

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Basically the current c drive is an exact copy of what is now the f drive. The 
f drive was the original drive and when I bought the SSD I just mirrored it 
then made SSD primary. The old install is still on the old drive. I just now 
started backing up things to the original just in case. These are probably 
duplicates though. I also am backing up Firefox bookmarks and saved passwords.

I checked for updates to bios but I seem to have the newest available. I’m 
really not wanting to do a complete I then and have to reinstall programs and 
such. The alternative is staying on 7 I guess. 

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> On Jan 10, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> 
> I don't think I ever got a question about get updates later, but maybe I
> blew past that.  It was Win 10 1909 version from Nov 2019, going from the
> official Windows download site.  Once I got it up and running, I ran the
> updates and it only had about 3 that it needed.
> 
> Glad to hear you're going to wipe the HD and do a fresh install, I'll be
> very surprised if that fails.  Did you check for BIOS updates like Roger
> recommended?  I did that as well, but no update was available.
> 
> When you get it fully set up, leave the OS on the primary HD, and keep all
> your personal data folders and stuff on the second, that way "next time" it
> will be much easier.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 3:21 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> This time I made a thumb drive install for it. I tried running the setup
>> form there and selected get updates later. Still appeared to download
>> updates and failed. I then booted from it and that method will only do a
>> fresh install. I’m backing up vital files to the 2nd HDD in the system and
>> wiki probably just go the fresh install route. Will that wipe the drive
>> completely or just install windows fresh but leave the other files on the
>> drive?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] More windows 10 update

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I don't think I ever got a question about get updates later, but maybe I
blew past that.  It was Win 10 1909 version from Nov 2019, going from the
official Windows download site.  Once I got it up and running, I ran the
updates and it only had about 3 that it needed.

Glad to hear you're going to wipe the HD and do a fresh install, I'll be
very surprised if that fails.  Did you check for BIOS updates like Roger
recommended?  I did that as well, but no update was available.

When you get it fully set up, leave the OS on the primary HD, and keep all
your personal data folders and stuff on the second, that way "next time" it
will be much easier.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> This time I made a thumb drive install for it. I tried running the setup
> form there and selected get updates later. Still appeared to download
> updates and failed. I then booted from it and that method will only do a
> fresh install. I’m backing up vital files to the 2nd HDD in the system and
> wiki probably just go the fresh install route. Will that wipe the drive
> completely or just install windows fresh but leave the other files on the
> drive?
>
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[MBZ] More windows 10 update

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

This time I made a thumb drive install for it. I tried running the setup form 
there and selected get updates later. Still appeared to download updates and 
failed. I then booted from it and that method will only do a fresh install. I’m 
backing up vital files to the 2nd HDD in the system and wiki probably just go 
the fresh install route. Will that wipe the drive completely or just install 
windows fresh but leave the other files on the drive?

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Re: [MBZ] OT - fires

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Calving glaciers w/ seals sleeping on the nearby floes was memorable.

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 2:47 PM dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I think the best part of AK I saw was the Aleutians. They’re frighteningly
> rugged, like being on a National Geographic program, and the weather is
> wildly unpredictable. It’s difficult to believe that people survive out
> there.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 10, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I liked the scenery and the fishing. I've done the Inside Passage cruise
> quite a few times. All awesome, but don't want to live there.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> dan--- via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 5:27 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: d...@penoff.com
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - fires
> >
> > While I’m no expert, having worked all over AK off and on for eight
> years, I contend that anyone who lives and remains there for more than a
> year has got some sort of weird affinity for the place. As I’ve stated
> before, I was told by more than one of the locals that people who came up
> from the Lower 48 either left shortly after their arrival or they stayed
> forever. That, and everyone I worked with who were locals other that the
> indigenous folks always seemed a little “off kilter”, for a lack of a
> better description. Nothing you could put your finger on, just different.
> >
> > I never had a desire to stay. While it’s a beautiful place, and I was
> privileged to see parts of it that few people ever do, it was depressing
> for a number of reasons.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Jan 9, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Fewer people are living here.  The annual count (7/18-7/19) reports
> that for the third year in a row the state has lost population.  Births are
> down, deaths are rising, the children (18-) are a bit fewer, the 18-64
> population is lower by 1% (younglings leave) and old people grew by 5%
> (crazy old white professionals with good retirement accounts).  Listening
> to the codgers complain about the way it used to be is sort of fun, as they
> seem to have been the pioneers whose families came up homesteading in the
> depression and WWII era.
> >>
> >> Talk about cultural appropriation, they think they are native
> Alaskans.  Some even wear appropriated fashions.  Which I understand are
> quite warm, but remind one of large sunburnt white folk in Hawaiian shirts
> speaking pidgin patois.  At least the retired white folk here retain their
> professional grasp of english.
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Gold or oil . or "hermit-ing".
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 8:15 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Remind me again why humans live in such a place
> 
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Re: [MBZ] GPS

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:41:56 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> No - just the general area covered.

Hm ... perhaps the source would be at the center of the general area.
That is, of course, if the general area is not overly broad to disguise
the location of the source.


Craig


> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:53 AM Craig via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > I see!
> >
> > Are the locations of the jamming sources mentioned in the NOTAMs?
> >
> > BTW, for the uninformed, NOTAM = NOtice To AirMen.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - fires

[dan--- via Mercedes]

I think the best part of AK I saw was the Aleutians. They’re frighteningly 
rugged, like being on a National Geographic program, and the weather is wildly 
unpredictable. It’s difficult to believe that people survive out there.

-D

> On Jan 10, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I liked the scenery and the fishing. I've done the Inside Passage cruise 
> quite a few times. All awesome, but don't want to live there.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 5:27 AM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - fires
> 
> While I’m no expert, having worked all over AK off and on for eight years, I 
> contend that anyone who lives and remains there for more than a year has got 
> some sort of weird affinity for the place. As I’ve stated before, I was told 
> by more than one of the locals that people who came up from the Lower 48 
> either left shortly after their arrival or they stayed forever. That, and 
> everyone I worked with who were locals other that the indigenous folks always 
> seemed a little “off kilter”, for a lack of a better description. Nothing you 
> could put your finger on, just different.
> 
> I never had a desire to stay. While it’s a beautiful place, and I was 
> privileged to see parts of it that few people ever do, it was depressing for 
> a number of reasons.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Fewer people are living here.  The annual count (7/18-7/19) reports that for 
>> the third year in a row the state has lost population.  Births are down, 
>> deaths are rising, the children (18-) are a bit fewer, the 18-64 population 
>> is lower by 1% (younglings leave) and old people grew by 5% (crazy old white 
>> professionals with good retirement accounts).  Listening to the codgers 
>> complain about the way it used to be is sort of fun, as they seem to have 
>> been the pioneers whose families came up homesteading in the depression and 
>> WWII era.  
>> 
>> Talk about cultural appropriation, they think they are native Alaskans.  
>> Some even wear appropriated fashions.  Which I understand are quite warm, 
>> but remind one of large sunburnt white folk in Hawaiian shirts speaking 
>> pidgin patois.  At least the retired white folk here retain their 
>> professional grasp of english.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Gold or oil . or "hermit-ing".
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 8:15 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Remind me again why humans live in such a place
 
 --FT
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Re: [MBZ] GPS

[OK Don via Mercedes]

No - just the general area covered.

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:53 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I see!
>
> Are the locations of the jamming sources mentioned in the NOTAMs?
>
> BTW, for the uninformed, NOTAM = NOtice To AirMen.
>
>
> Craig
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT - fires

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I liked the scenery and the fishing. I've done the Inside Passage cruise quite 
a few times. All awesome, but don't want to live there.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - fires

While I’m no expert, having worked all over AK off and on for eight years, I 
contend that anyone who lives and remains there for more than a year has got 
some sort of weird affinity for the place. As I’ve stated before, I was told by 
more than one of the locals that people who came up from the Lower 48 either 
left shortly after their arrival or they stayed forever. That, and everyone I 
worked with who were locals other that the indigenous folks always seemed a 
little “off kilter”, for a lack of a better description. Nothing you could put 
your finger on, just different.

I never had a desire to stay. While it’s a beautiful place, and I was 
privileged to see parts of it that few people ever do, it was depressing for a 
number of reasons.

-D

> On Jan 9, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Fewer people are living here.  The annual count (7/18-7/19) reports that for 
> the third year in a row the state has lost population.  Births are down, 
> deaths are rising, the children (18-) are a bit fewer, the 18-64 population 
> is lower by 1% (younglings leave) and old people grew by 5% (crazy old white 
> professionals with good retirement accounts).  Listening to the codgers 
> complain about the way it used to be is sort of fun, as they seem to have 
> been the pioneers whose families came up homesteading in the depression and 
> WWII era.  
> 
> Talk about cultural appropriation, they think they are native Alaskans.  Some 
> even wear appropriated fashions.  Which I understand are quite warm, but 
> remind one of large sunburnt white folk in Hawaiian shirts speaking pidgin 
> patois.  At least the retired white folk here retain their professional grasp 
> of english.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Gold or oil . or "hermit-ing".
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 8:15 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Remind me again why humans live in such a place
>>> 
>>> --FT
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[MBZ] Total crack head

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Re: [MBZ] OT - fires

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 08:27:14 -0500 dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I never had a desire to stay. While it’s a beautiful place, and I was
> privileged to see parts of it that few people ever do, it was
> depressing for a number of reasons.

- the isolation,
- the cold in winter,
- the short (or non-existent) days in winter,
- the short summer season,
- unfriendly, unwelcoming people,
- the high cost of everything,
- the lack of suitable roads to go anywhere,
- ?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ XII 2019

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Other red one is 300CD

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 1:34 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes the 300D.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 10, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > 300D?
> >
> >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 6:48 AM Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
> >> They’re not. Mine is desert red.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Jan 9, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Why are all the orient red cars grouped together?
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 1:11 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Thanks Curt,
> >> >> Nice to relive memories. I will send out to those not on this list.
> >> >> Dwight
> >> >> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> >> >> Wickford RI
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:41 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> At long last I've finally remembered to upload the 2019 ChowdaQ
> pics.
> >> >>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ms3hA8H7HixwRbNT9
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> >> >> names
> >> >>> either I didn't remember them or I haven't gotten to that picture.I
> >> >> *think*
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ XII 2019

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yes the 300D.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 10, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 300D?
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 6:48 AM Dimitri Seretakis  
>> wrote:
>> They’re not. Mine is desert red.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jan 9, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Why are all the orient red cars grouped together?
>> > 
>> > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 1:11 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> Thanks Curt,
>> >> Nice to relive memories. I will send out to those not on this list.
>> >> Dwight
>> >> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> >> Wickford RI
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:41 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>> At long last I've finally remembered to upload the 2019 ChowdaQ pics.
>> >>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ms3hA8H7HixwRbNT9
>> >>> I'm going to go through and put some names in. If a pic doesn't have
>> >> names
>> >>> either I didn't remember them or I haven't gotten to that picture.I
>> >> *think*
>> >>> if you have a Google account you can add names too.
>> >>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ XII 2019

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

300D?

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 6:48 AM Dimitri Seretakis 
wrote:

> They’re not. Mine is desert red.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 9, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Why are all the orient red cars grouped together?
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 1:11 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Curt,
> >> Nice to relive memories. I will send out to those not on this list.
> >> Dwight
> >> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> >> Wickford RI
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:41 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> At long last I've finally remembered to upload the 2019 ChowdaQ pics.
> >>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ms3hA8H7HixwRbNT9
> >>> I'm going to go through and put some names in. If a pic doesn't have
> >> names
> >>> either I didn't remember them or I haven't gotten to that picture.I
> >> *think*
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Intake heater current draw?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 16:28:37 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Jim says:
> 
> >And, they can make a noise, under duress.  Sort of a cracking, hissing
> >noise, usually accompanied by a bad smell.
> 
> And a bit of smoke.

Yes, of course! They run on smoke. If you let the smoke out, they stop
working.


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Re: [MBZ] GPS

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 10:37:42 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Although I didn't see a notice yesterday, there are frequently pilot's
> (NOTAMS) alerts that GPS jamming testing is being done in NM.

I see!

Are the locations of the jamming sources mentioned in the NOTAMs?

BTW, for the uninformed, NOTAM = NOtice To AirMen.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Intake heater current draw?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The snowmobile club guys love ether. We've got a big Case mowing tractor that 
we've locked up repeatedly with ether. I think that one's issue is the IP, if I 
prime the snot out of it it'll start without ether.
The first time I saw the ASV having trouble starting they sprayed it and then 
hit the heater button. Fortunately I don't think it was working at the time. I 
freaked out when they told me "oh thats the glowplugs"...
The Pisten Bully (MB content, its got an MB engine) has no glow plugs and has 
an ether system built into the cab which sadly doesn't work anymore.
-Curt

On Friday, January 10, 2020, 11:31:51 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 And be sure to never use starting fluid/ether on one of these. I have seen the 
results and it’s not pretty.

-D

> On Jan 10, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jim says:
> 
>> And, they can make a noise, under duress.  Sort of a cracking, hissing 
>> noise, usually accompanied by a bad smell.
> 
> And a bit of smoke. A pioneer in that field was Lord Lucas, of Lucas 
> Electric. The prince of darkness. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] GPS

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Although I didn't see a notice yesterday, there are frequently pilot's
(NOTAMS) alerts that GPS jamming testing is being done in NM.

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 9:45 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Since the BRV's speedometer is recessed in the dash and since it reads
> high when it is cold, I have been using our GPS as a speedometer for some
> time now.
>
> Shirley had a dental appointment today so we were in northwest
> Albuquerque. After her appointment, I programmed the GPS to find the
> quickest way to the Fleet Pride store in downtown Albuquerque and we
> were off (you have to be off to do this kind of thing!  :-) ).
>
> As we were driving east on Paseo del Norte, I heard the GPS saying,
> "Recalculating!" several times. Then I noticed I was going slower than
> the speed limit of 60 mph -- the GPS said 52. I accelerated and noticed
> the GPS said 48. I then looked down at the speedometer (it was after
> sunset and I had the lights on so the speedometer needle was easy to
> see). It said we were going 65!
>
> I slowed down and push the button on the GPS to return to the map
> display. It showed the vehicle about 500' north of the roadway and going
> on neighborhood roads instead of on the freeway! When we crossed the Rio
> Grande (where there are no neighborhood roads parallel to the freeway!)
> it decided we were on the freeway afterall.
>
> We got off on the left side of the freeway, turned right, and went under
> the eastbound lanes and stopped at a stoplight with a clear view of the
> sky. I looked at the GPS's map and saw it said we were about 500' west of
> our actual location. This continued as we headed south on 2nd street.
>
> I thought this was rather odd, having never seen anything like this
> before.
>
> It could have been caused by someone transmitting locally on GPS
> frequencies, but those are predominantly line-of-sight and we had
> travelled a few miles and were on the other side of a freeway
> overpass's earth berm. In addition, after a while it started working
> correctly again.
>
> It occurred to me it could have been due to the Department of Defense
> turning on Selective Availabilty (which has been off for several years).
>
> Anyway, I first noticed the wierdness about 1640 MST (2340Z).
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Intake heater current draw?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And be sure to never use starting fluid/ether on one of these. I have seen the 
results and it’s not pretty.

-D

> On Jan 10, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jim says:
> 
>> And, they can make a noise, under duress.  Sort of a cracking, hissing 
>> noise, usually accompanied by a bad smell.
> 
> And a bit of smoke. A pioneer in that field was Lord Lucas, of Lucas 
> Electric. The prince of darkness. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Intake heater current draw?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Jim says:

>And, they can make a noise, under duress.  Sort of a cracking, hissing noise, 
>usually accompanied by a bad smell.

And a bit of smoke. A pioneer in that field was Lord Lucas, of Lucas Electric. 
The prince of darkness. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] GPS

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Now that you mention it Angie came home last night claiming she'd seen a UFO. 
Said it was as wide as a football field, studded with lights and moving 
silently just above the trees...
Would have been an hour later than Craig's incident, maybe it was on an 
eastward swing?
-Curt

On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 11:40:25 PM EST, Buggered Benzmail via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 There were ARVs active in the area 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 9, 2020, at 11:37 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It could be because of satellite position.
> GPS [I believe it still does] relies on signal from 3 satellites to
> establish it's coordinates.
> It could have been a situation where one or more of the needed signals were
> over the horizon and your Dash GPS was not getting coordinate information
> to do it's internal calculations. Temporary triangulation  loss.
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 8:45 PM Craig via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Since the BRV's speedometer is recessed in the dash and since it reads
>> high when it is cold, I have been using our GPS as a speedometer for some
>> time now.
>> 
>> Shirley had a dental appointment today so we were in northwest
>> Albuquerque. After her appointment, I programmed the GPS to find the
>> quickest way to the Fleet Pride store in downtown Albuquerque and we
>> were off (you have to be off to do this kind of thing!  :-) ).
>> 
>> As we were driving east on Paseo del Norte, I heard the GPS saying,
>> "Recalculating!" several times. Then I noticed I was going slower than
>> the speed limit of 60 mph -- the GPS said 52. I accelerated and noticed
>> the GPS said 48. I then looked down at the speedometer (it was after
>> sunset and I had the lights on so the speedometer needle was easy to
>> see). It said we were going 65!
>> 
>> I slowed down and push the button on the GPS to return to the map
>> display. It showed the vehicle about 500' north of the roadway and going
>> on neighborhood roads instead of on the freeway! When we crossed the Rio
>> Grande (where there are no neighborhood roads parallel to the freeway!)
>> it decided we were on the freeway afterall.
>> 
>> We got off on the left side of the freeway, turned right, and went under
>> the eastbound lanes and stopped at a stoplight with a clear view of the
>> sky. I looked at the GPS's map and saw it said we were about 500' west of
>> our actual location. This continued as we headed south on 2nd street.
>> 
>> I thought this was rather odd, having never seen anything like this
>> before.
>> 
>> It could have been caused by someone transmitting locally on GPS
>> frequencies, but those are predominantly line-of-sight and we had
>> travelled a few miles and were on the other side of a freeway
>> overpass's earth berm. In addition, after a while it started working
>> correctly again.
>> 
>> It occurred to me it could have been due to the Department of Defense
>> turning on Selective Availabilty (which has been off for several years).
>> 
>> Anyway, I first noticed the wierdness about 1640 MST (2340Z).
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] GPS

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 During hunting season I noticed that Google Maps is quite accurate for walking 
around in the woods. Often I use it in conjunction with my compass.Google Earth 
on the other hand seems to have a 1/4 mile offset that I have been unable to 
figure out. Its always got me mislocated and is thus useless in the woods.
As I often walk out out of cell service I was hoping Google Earth would work 
better than it does.
-Curt

On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 10:45:22 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Since the BRV's speedometer is recessed in the dash and since it reads
high when it is cold, I have been using our GPS as a speedometer for some
time now.

Shirley had a dental appointment today so we were in northwest
Albuquerque. After her appointment, I programmed the GPS to find the
quickest way to the Fleet Pride store in downtown Albuquerque and we
were off (you have to be off to do this kind of thing!  :-) ).

As we were driving east on Paseo del Norte, I heard the GPS saying,
"Recalculating!" several times. Then I noticed I was going slower than
the speed limit of 60 mph -- the GPS said 52. I accelerated and noticed
the GPS said 48. I then looked down at the speedometer (it was after
sunset and I had the lights on so the speedometer needle was easy to
see). It said we were going 65!

I slowed down and push the button on the GPS to return to the map
display. It showed the vehicle about 500' north of the roadway and going
on neighborhood roads instead of on the freeway! When we crossed the Rio
Grande (where there are no neighborhood roads parallel to the freeway!)
it decided we were on the freeway afterall.

We got off on the left side of the freeway, turned right, and went under
the eastbound lanes and stopped at a stoplight with a clear view of the
sky. I looked at the GPS's map and saw it said we were about 500' west of
our actual location. This continued as we headed south on 2nd street.

I thought this was rather odd, having never seen anything like this
before.

It could have been caused by someone transmitting locally on GPS
frequencies, but those are predominantly line-of-sight and we had
travelled a few miles and were on the other side of a freeway
overpass's earth berm. In addition, after a while it started working
correctly again.

It occurred to me it could have been due to the Department of Defense
turning on Selective Availabilty (which has been off for several years).

Anyway, I first noticed the wierdness about 1640 MST (2340Z).


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - fires

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Don't forget the hunting. I guess along the coast the sea duck hunting is epic 
but you need to be made of stern stuff...
-Curt

On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 9:19:20 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Gold or oil . or "hermit-ing".

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 8:15 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Remind me again why humans live in such a place
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Jan 9, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > there was all manner of hullaballoo about the weather in AK this past
> summer.  Much blame given to anthropomorphic climate assault.  At the
> moment the region is suffering a possible record breaking stretch of the
> very colds.  Much gnashing of tooth and rending of tunic by the populace.
> I will admit there are many vehicles with shattered rear windscreens.  Must
> be very uncomfortable to drive.
> >
> > What just was admitted, after somebody bothered to look at records, is
> that there have been 30! stretches of extended periods of very cold (below
> 263*K for at least a week) in ANC since 1950.  That is like minus temps in
> F degrees for longer than a week.  The most recent extended stretch was in
> 2009.  Expected over night temps will be in the -27f range the next two
> days.
> >
> > clay
> >
> >> On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:08 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It is amazing how its been proven they faked data in England, this dude
> made up the stuff, and other hoaxdom has been proven, yet albore and his
> minions keep motoring on as if all their religion is true.
> >>
> >>> G Mann via Mercedes 
> >>> January 8, 2020 at 9:53 PM
> >>> Just for the record, I claim no kinship to the Mann PhD of climate
> change
> >>> hoaxdom..
> >>>
> >>> I am a full fledged member of the "Salt the Earth Society" and
> understand
> >>> that CO2 is the material that makes plants grow and produce O2
> >>> "Herr Mann" ;)) [Thanks BTW]
> >>> Diesel on
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Intake heater current draw?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> There are electronic relays that don't make noise, but I don't understand the 
> internal workings of them.

Transistors; various flavors depending upon application.

And, they can make a noise, under duress.  Sort of a cracking, hissing noise,
usually accompanied by a bad smell.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] GPS

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I'm guessing there might be a number of orbiting stealth aircraft in the 
Iranian area loaded with a variety of devices that could disable any 
sort of transmitter trying to do that, quite quickly.


--FT

On 1/10/20 8:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Iranians are trying to get even (?) after we terminated a couple
terrorists, with extreme prejudice. Perhaps they are jamming GPS signals as
part of the cyber war.

-
Max
Charleston SC





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Re: [MBZ] GPS

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 22:40:29 -0700 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 00:24:37 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > Alien Replica Vehicles. They’re flown out of secret bases around
> > there.  Their singularity/gravity drives disrupt space-time and hence
> > GPS and other radio signals 
> 
> I see.

Oh, by the way, this is Albuquerque, not Roswell.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Windows 7 to 10 upgrade

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Craig,
I bought a thumb drive on eBay that has Win10 plus some repair stuff.  It all 
fits on the 8gb thumb drive.  Very convenient, I've used it several times now.  
You still need a product code to activate.
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
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Re: [MBZ] GPS

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Iranians are trying to get even (?) after we terminated a couple
terrorists, with extreme prejudice. Perhaps they are jamming GPS signals as
part of the cyber war.

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 10:45 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Since the BRV's speedometer is recessed in the dash and since it reads
> high when it is cold, I have been using our GPS as a speedometer for some
> time now.
>
> Shirley had a dental appointment today so we were in northwest
> Albuquerque. After her appointment, I programmed the GPS to find the
> quickest way to the Fleet Pride store in downtown Albuquerque and we
> were off (you have to be off to do this kind of thing!  :-) ).
>
> As we were driving east on Paseo del Norte, I heard the GPS saying,
> "Recalculating!" several times. Then I noticed I was going slower than
> the speed limit of 60 mph -- the GPS said 52. I accelerated and noticed
> the GPS said 48. I then looked down at the speedometer (it was after
> sunset and I had the lights on so the speedometer needle was easy to
> see). It said we were going 65!
>
> I slowed down and push the button on the GPS to return to the map
> display. It showed the vehicle about 500' north of the roadway and going
> on neighborhood roads instead of on the freeway! When we crossed the Rio
> Grande (where there are no neighborhood roads parallel to the freeway!)
> it decided we were on the freeway afterall.
>
> We got off on the left side of the freeway, turned right, and went under
> the eastbound lanes and stopped at a stoplight with a clear view of the
> sky. I looked at the GPS's map and saw it said we were about 500' west of
> our actual location. This continued as we headed south on 2nd street.
>
> I thought this was rather odd, having never seen anything like this
> before.
>
> It could have been caused by someone transmitting locally on GPS
> frequencies, but those are predominantly line-of-sight and we had
> travelled a few miles and were on the other side of a freeway
> overpass's earth berm. In addition, after a while it started working
> correctly again.
>
> It occurred to me it could have been due to the Department of Defense
> turning on Selective Availabilty (which has been off for several years).
>
> Anyway, I first noticed the wierdness about 1640 MST (2340Z).
>
>
> Craig
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - fires

[dan--- via Mercedes]

While I’m no expert, having worked all over AK off and on for eight years, I 
contend that anyone who lives and remains there for more than a year has got 
some sort of weird affinity for the place. As I’ve stated before, I was told by 
more than one of the locals that people who came up from the Lower 48 either 
left shortly after their arrival or they stayed forever. That, and everyone I 
worked with who were locals other that the indigenous folks always seemed a 
little “off kilter”, for a lack of a better description. Nothing you could put 
your finger on, just different.

I never had a desire to stay. While it’s a beautiful place, and I was 
privileged to see parts of it that few people ever do, it was depressing for a 
number of reasons.

-D

> On Jan 9, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Fewer people are living here.  The annual count (7/18-7/19) reports that for 
> the third year in a row the state has lost population.  Births are down, 
> deaths are rising, the children (18-) are a bit fewer, the 18-64 population 
> is lower by 1% (younglings leave) and old people grew by 5% (crazy old white 
> professionals with good retirement accounts).  Listening to the codgers 
> complain about the way it used to be is sort of fun, as they seem to have 
> been the pioneers whose families came up homesteading in the depression and 
> WWII era.  
> 
> Talk about cultural appropriation, they think they are native Alaskans.  Some 
> even wear appropriated fashions.  Which I understand are quite warm, but 
> remind one of large sunburnt white folk in Hawaiian shirts speaking pidgin 
> patois.  At least the retired white folk here retain their professional grasp 
> of english.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Gold or oil . or "hermit-ing".
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 8:15 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Remind me again why humans live in such a place
>>> 
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Windows 7 to 10 upgrade

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Correct, and software to make the .iso image. Easier to dedicate a USB drive, 
as long as the boot up order can include boot from USB.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 9, 2020 9:50:34 PM Craig via Mercedes :

> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 21:42:04 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> > I put the install onto a external hard drive, need about 7 GB, but you
> > could also burn it to a DVD.
> > 
> 
> But won't something that large require a double-layer DVD and a special
> burner?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ XII 2019

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

They’re not. Mine is desert red.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 9, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why are all the orient red cars grouped together?
> 
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 1:11 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Curt,
>> Nice to relive memories. I will send out to those not on this list.
>> Dwight
>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:41 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> At long last I've finally remembered to upload the 2019 ChowdaQ pics.
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ms3hA8H7HixwRbNT9
>>> I'm going to go through and put some names in. If a pic doesn't have
>> names
>>> either I didn't remember them or I haven't gotten to that picture.I
>> *think*
>>> if you have a Google account you can add names too.
>>> -Curt
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