Re: [MBZ] greetings, newbie here

2006-01-13 Thread Werner Fehlauer

TimC - welcome to the list -
I too have an '83SD, now with 210k miles.  This car has had a 'flare' on the 
3-4 shift for the last 20k miles, and it has been diagnosed as a worn clutch 
pack.  One worn clutch pack wouldn't affect the other shifts, IMO.  Getting 
the vacuum controls to work right can be a pain, and often the plastic 
switch on top of the engine valve cover is a good place to start with your 
checks.
For now, I just try very hard to lift my right foot when it goes to shift 
the 3-4,and otherwise the tranny works just fine - perhaps too tight on the 
1-2 and 2-3 shifts, especially when cold (that's pretty normal, AFAIK).  But 
its on my list of things to do to get it rebuilt, as I intend to keep the 
car for many years.

Werner
'83SD 210k miles
'90D 220k miles

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:16 PM
Subject: [MBZ] greetings, newbie here



Hello M-B folks,

My name is Tim Clark and I have recently acquired an 83 300SD.  I have a
question on it and a fellow Rennlister (a glance at my email will reveal 
my
other automotive "prior commitment" - all 10 of my allotted email 
addresses

are in use for the time being, so this will have to suffice) referred me
here, which is excellent as I found the Benzworld forums to be not quite 
as

useful as I had hoped.  Mr. Dave Gilmore (said R'lister) already replied
with one take on my question, but I'd now like to cut/paste said question
here and see what additional insights are generated.

Original question, slightly edited for this presentation:

I recently purchased an 83 300SD, approx 260k miles. Transmission slips on
2-3 shift - but all other shifts are solid and positive, both up and 
down -
and the 3-2 (edit - corrected from "4-3" which isn't the shift in 
question,
oops) downshift is also solid. My question is, if only the one shift is 
bad,

is this likely to be an adjustment issue?  I would expect if clutch pack
wear was involved, other shifts would be off too - in other words, how
likely is it that one clutch pack is toast while the others are totally 
fine
(my impression is there are separate clutch packs for each gear - this is 
my
first auto-trans car in quite awhile so please forgive ignorance there)? 
The

car came with sporadic records (well-documented for a few years at a time,
then nothing for a while), so I'm not sure if anything has been done to 
the

tranny - another question is, how long should these go before some service
is required - how likely is it that the tranny may have already received
attention at some point?  Finally, if anyone can shed light on how auto
transmissions work/what can be adjusted (pre-electronic trannies that is),
I'd appreciate it much.

Here's Dave's reply to avoid duplication of info:

"Mine does this too when cold.   I have read a K-1 spring kit solves the
problem and it can be installed while the trans is in the car.  Rusty at
www.buymbparts.com/ or 800-741-5252 likely can provide it.  When I first
got my car I changed to Mobile 1 ATF and that almost cured it.  I plan to
try the K-1 deal next.  Mine has 75,000 on it.

I have read the transmission in these cars usually last about 200,000 
miles

before a rebuild, although some people get more.  The adjustment procedure
is complicated because of the vacuum interaction.  I suggest a fluid &
filter change along with careful adjustment to the MB specs before doing
anything radical.  The adjustment does alter the firmness of all the
shifts.  That is why I am suspecting the K-1 in our cases."

Oh, and I checked the records I have - the tranny fluid was changed about 
7k

miles ago, but no filter - I assume this is just like changing the oil
without changing the filter - basically pointless?  So might be a good 
place

to start

Thanks in advance,
Tim

88 944 (reasonably good shape, needs a few things)
83 300SD (needs paint on roof, missing a/c, pretty much everything works,
runs strongly)





Re: [MBZ] greetings, newbie here

2006-01-12 Thread John Berryman


On Thursday, Jan 12, 2006, at 10:59 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:




When you mentioned the vacuum modulator are you talking about the part 
that sits on top of the valve cover or as I look on Rusty's site a 
part that more resembles a gas cap ?


Thanks,

Dan Elliott
82 300D-T 91kmi
_
	The modulator lives on the left side of the tranny. Held in by 2 small 
bolts and retainer. If changing it get the updated, green version 
(part#A 123 070 00 46). Make sure you remove all the pieces of the old 
one and be careful on re-assembly not to cut the O-ring. Adjustment 
will probably be needed.


Johnny B
I Mac Therefore I am




Re: [MBZ] greetings, newbie here

2006-01-12 Thread dieselbenz24
 
 Jim You said:
 
>Tim,
>Welcome to the list.
>My 79 slipped for 3-4 years on the 2-3 part throttle upshift and I thought 
>sure it was terminal. About 6 years ago I replaced the vacuum modulator and 
>that cured the problem. Still on original bands and clutches at 261,000 
>miles. Putting a mitivac on the old modulator revealed a very slow leak which 
>may 
>have been the cause but I really can't explain why this fixed it.
>Regards, 
>Jim Friesen
 
When you mentioned the vacuum modulator are you talking about the part that 
sits on top of the valve cover or as I look on Rusty's site a part that more 
resembles a gas cap ?
 
Thanks,
 
Dan Elliott
82 300D-T 91kmi

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Re: [MBZ] greetings, newbie here

2006-01-12 Thread Loren Faeth




GO to www.bulkpart.com   and then work your way to Mercedes transmissions


At 08:55 AM 1/12/2006, you wrote:

the page didnt work

Loren Faeth wrote:

> I am contemplating trying an AT job.  A friend of mine in HI has done his,
> and recommended this place.
> 
http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=2&Category_Code=Mercedes

> He recommends buying the book first for $16.  Read it and then plan your
> diagnosis and attack.It takes special tools.  The books are listed in
> the transmission type.  For 722.3 transmissions, go to the 722.3 and 722.4
> section and you will see the "Technical manual" listing.
>
> Loren
>
>
> At 09:34 PM 1/11/2006, you wrote:
>
>>yes, you want to do the k1 deal,  There used to be a writeup before
>>mbz.org crashed but not sure if its still around.
>>
>>Tim C wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello M-B folks,
>>>
>>>My name is Tim Clark and I have recently acquired an 83 300SD.  I have a
>>>question on it and a fellow Rennlister (a glance at my email will 
reveal my
>>>other automotive "prior commitment" - all 10 of my allotted email 
addresses

>>>are in use for the time being, so this will have to suffice) referred me
>>>here, which is excellent as I found the Benzworld forums to be not 
quite as

>>>useful as I had hoped.  Mr. Dave Gilmore (said R'lister) already replied
>>>with one take on my question, but I'd now like to cut/paste said question
>>>here and see what additional insights are generated.
>>>
>>>Original question, slightly edited for this presentation:
>>>
>>>I recently purchased an 83 300SD, approx 260k miles. Transmission slips on
>>>2-3 shift - but all other shifts are solid and positive, both up and 
down -
>>>and the 3-2 (edit - corrected from "4-3" which isn't the shift in 
question,

>>>oops) downshift is also solid. My question is, if only the one shift is
>>
>>bad,
>>
>>>is this likely to be an adjustment issue?  I would expect if clutch pack
>>>wear was involved, other shifts would be off too - in other words, how
>>>likely is it that one clutch pack is toast while the others are totally
>>
>>fine
>>
>>>(my impression is there are separate clutch packs for each gear - this
>>
>>is my
>>
>>>first auto-trans car in quite awhile so please forgive ignorance
>>
>>there)? The
>>
>>>car came with sporadic records (well-documented for a few years at a time,
>>>then nothing for a while), so I'm not sure if anything has been done 
to the

>>>tranny - another question is, how long should these go before some service
>>>is required - how likely is it that the tranny may have already received
>>>attention at some point?  Finally, if anyone can shed light on how auto
>>>transmissions work/what can be adjusted (pre-electronic trannies that is),
>>>I'd appreciate it much.
>>>
>>>Here's Dave's reply to avoid duplication of info:
>>>
>>>"Mine does this too when cold.   I have read a K-1 spring kit solves the
>>>problem and it can be installed while the trans is in the car.  Rusty at
>>>www.buymbparts.com/ or 800-741-5252 likely can provide it.  When I first
>>>got my car I changed to Mobile 1 ATF and that almost cured it.  I plan to
>>>try the K-1 deal next.  Mine has 75,000 on it.
>>>
>>>I have read the transmission in these cars usually last about 200,000
>>
>>miles
>>
>>>before a rebuild, although some people get more.  The adjustment procedure
>>>is complicated because of the vacuum interaction.  I suggest a fluid &
>>>filter change along with careful adjustment to the MB specs before doing
>>>anything radical.  The adjustment does alter the firmness of all the
>>>shifts.  That is why I am suspecting the K-1 in our cases."
>>>
>>>Oh, and I checked the records I have - the tranny fluid was changed
>>
>>about 7k
>>
>>>miles ago, but no filter - I assume this is just like changing the oil
>>>without changing the filter - basically pointless?  So might be a good
>>
>>place
>>
>>>to start
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>Tim
>>>
>>>88 944 (reasonably good shape, needs a few things)
>>>83 300SD (needs paint on roof, missing a/c, pretty much everything works,
>>>runs strongly)
>>>
>>>___
>>>http://www.striplin.net
>>>For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
>>>For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>>http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
>>  84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
>>  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
>>http://www.striplin.net
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Re: [MBZ] greetings, newbie here

2006-01-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

the page didnt work

Loren Faeth wrote:

I am contemplating trying an AT job.  A friend of mine in HI has done his, 
and recommended this place.

http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=2&Category_Code=Mercedes
He recommends buying the book first for $16.  Read it and then plan your 
diagnosis and attack.It takes special tools.  The books are listed in 
the transmission type.  For 722.3 transmissions, go to the 722.3 and 722.4 
section and you will see the "Technical manual" listing.


Loren


At 09:34 PM 1/11/2006, you wrote:


yes, you want to do the k1 deal,  There used to be a writeup before
mbz.org crashed but not sure if its still around.

Tim C wrote:



Hello M-B folks,

My name is Tim Clark and I have recently acquired an 83 300SD.  I have a
question on it and a fellow Rennlister (a glance at my email will reveal my
other automotive "prior commitment" - all 10 of my allotted email addresses
are in use for the time being, so this will have to suffice) referred me
here, which is excellent as I found the Benzworld forums to be not quite as
useful as I had hoped.  Mr. Dave Gilmore (said R'lister) already replied
with one take on my question, but I'd now like to cut/paste said question
here and see what additional insights are generated.

Original question, slightly edited for this presentation:

I recently purchased an 83 300SD, approx 260k miles. Transmission slips on
2-3 shift - but all other shifts are solid and positive, both up and down -
and the 3-2 (edit - corrected from "4-3" which isn't the shift in question,
oops) downshift is also solid. My question is, if only the one shift is 


bad,


is this likely to be an adjustment issue?  I would expect if clutch pack
wear was involved, other shifts would be off too - in other words, how
likely is it that one clutch pack is toast while the others are totally 


fine

(my impression is there are separate clutch packs for each gear - this 


is my

first auto-trans car in quite awhile so please forgive ignorance 


there)? The


car came with sporadic records (well-documented for a few years at a time,
then nothing for a while), so I'm not sure if anything has been done to the
tranny - another question is, how long should these go before some service
is required - how likely is it that the tranny may have already received
attention at some point?  Finally, if anyone can shed light on how auto
transmissions work/what can be adjusted (pre-electronic trannies that is),
I'd appreciate it much.

Here's Dave's reply to avoid duplication of info:

"Mine does this too when cold.   I have read a K-1 spring kit solves the
problem and it can be installed while the trans is in the car.  Rusty at
www.buymbparts.com/ or 800-741-5252 likely can provide it.  When I first
got my car I changed to Mobile 1 ATF and that almost cured it.  I plan to
try the K-1 deal next.  Mine has 75,000 on it.

I have read the transmission in these cars usually last about 200,000 


miles


before a rebuild, although some people get more.  The adjustment procedure
is complicated because of the vacuum interaction.  I suggest a fluid &
filter change along with careful adjustment to the MB specs before doing
anything radical.  The adjustment does alter the firmness of all the
shifts.  That is why I am suspecting the K-1 in our cases."

Oh, and I checked the records I have - the tranny fluid was changed 


about 7k


miles ago, but no filter - I assume this is just like changing the oil
without changing the filter - basically pointless?  So might be a good 


place


to start

Thanks in advance,
Tim

88 944 (reasonably good shape, needs a few things)
83 300SD (needs paint on roof, missing a/c, pretty much everything works,
runs strongly)

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 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] greetings, newbie here

2006-01-12 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 1/11/2006 8:17:21 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I  recently purchased an 83 300SD, approx 260k miles. Transmission slips  on
2-3 shift - but all other shifts are solid and positive, both up and  down -
and the 3-2 (edit - corrected from "4-3" which isn't the shift in  question,
oops) downshift is also solid. My question is, if only the one  shift is bad,
is this likely to be an adjustment issue?  I would  expect if clutch pack
wear was involved, other shifts would be off too - in  other words, how
likely is it that one clutch pack is toast while the  others are totally fine
(my impression is there are separate clutch packs  for each gear - this is my
first auto-trans car in quite awhile so please  forgive ignorance there)? The
car came with sporadic records  (well-documented for a few years at a time,
then nothing for a while), so  I'm not sure if anything has been done to the
tranny - another question is,  how long should these go before some service
is required - how likely is it  that the tranny may have already received
attention at some point?   Finally, if anyone can shed light on how auto
transmissions work/what can  be adjusted (pre-electronic trannies that is),
I'd appreciate it  much.



Tim,
 
Welcome to the list.
 
My 79 slipped for 3-4 years on the 2-3 part throttle upshift and I thought  
sure it was terminal.  About 6 years ago I replaced the vacuum modulator  and 
that cured the problem.  Still on original bands and clutches at  261,000 
miles.  Putting a mitivac on the old modulator revealed a very slow  leak which 
may 
have been the cause but I really can't explain why this fixed  it.
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles 
98 ML 320, 139 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] greetings, newbie here

2006-01-12 Thread Loren Faeth
I am contemplating trying an AT job.  A friend of mine in HI has done his, 
and recommended this place.

http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=2&Category_Code=Mercedes
He recommends buying the book first for $16.  Read it and then plan your 
diagnosis and attack.It takes special tools.  The books are listed in 
the transmission type.  For 722.3 transmissions, go to the 722.3 and 722.4 
section and you will see the "Technical manual" listing.


Loren


At 09:34 PM 1/11/2006, you wrote:

yes, you want to do the k1 deal,  There used to be a writeup before
mbz.org crashed but not sure if its still around.

Tim C wrote:

> Hello M-B folks,
>
> My name is Tim Clark and I have recently acquired an 83 300SD.  I have a
> question on it and a fellow Rennlister (a glance at my email will reveal my
> other automotive "prior commitment" - all 10 of my allotted email addresses
> are in use for the time being, so this will have to suffice) referred me
> here, which is excellent as I found the Benzworld forums to be not quite as
> useful as I had hoped.  Mr. Dave Gilmore (said R'lister) already replied
> with one take on my question, but I'd now like to cut/paste said question
> here and see what additional insights are generated.
>
> Original question, slightly edited for this presentation:
>
> I recently purchased an 83 300SD, approx 260k miles. Transmission slips on
> 2-3 shift - but all other shifts are solid and positive, both up and down -
> and the 3-2 (edit - corrected from "4-3" which isn't the shift in question,
> oops) downshift is also solid. My question is, if only the one shift is 
bad,

> is this likely to be an adjustment issue?  I would expect if clutch pack
> wear was involved, other shifts would be off too - in other words, how
> likely is it that one clutch pack is toast while the others are totally 
fine
> (my impression is there are separate clutch packs for each gear - this 
is my
> first auto-trans car in quite awhile so please forgive ignorance 
there)? The

> car came with sporadic records (well-documented for a few years at a time,
> then nothing for a while), so I'm not sure if anything has been done to the
> tranny - another question is, how long should these go before some service
> is required - how likely is it that the tranny may have already received
> attention at some point?  Finally, if anyone can shed light on how auto
> transmissions work/what can be adjusted (pre-electronic trannies that is),
> I'd appreciate it much.
>
> Here's Dave's reply to avoid duplication of info:
>
> "Mine does this too when cold.   I have read a K-1 spring kit solves the
> problem and it can be installed while the trans is in the car.  Rusty at
> www.buymbparts.com/ or 800-741-5252 likely can provide it.  When I first
> got my car I changed to Mobile 1 ATF and that almost cured it.  I plan to
> try the K-1 deal next.  Mine has 75,000 on it.
>
> I have read the transmission in these cars usually last about 200,000 
miles

> before a rebuild, although some people get more.  The adjustment procedure
> is complicated because of the vacuum interaction.  I suggest a fluid &
> filter change along with careful adjustment to the MB specs before doing
> anything radical.  The adjustment does alter the firmness of all the
> shifts.  That is why I am suspecting the K-1 in our cases."
>
> Oh, and I checked the records I have - the tranny fluid was changed 
about 7k

> miles ago, but no filter - I assume this is just like changing the oil
> without changing the filter - basically pointless?  So might be a good 
place

> to start
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Tim
>
> 88 944 (reasonably good shape, needs a few things)
> 83 300SD (needs paint on roof, missing a/c, pretty much everything works,
> runs strongly)
>
> ___
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>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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>
>
>

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  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
  84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] greetings, newbie here

2006-01-12 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, Jan 11, 2006, at 22:16 US/Eastern, Tim C wrote:


My name is Tim Clark and I have recently acquired an 83 300SD.

Tim,
	Try disconnecting vacuum to the modulator. you should get slamming 
shifts.If you do it is likely that you could adjust the modulator by 
feel. There should be an adjustment key under the cap on the modulator. 
You need to stiffen the spring so it takes a bit more vacuum to 
overtake it. If you go in small increments and test drive in between 
you can get just the feel you want. If you go too far you will feel a 
harsh downshift.
	I am not recommending the entire adjustment procedure to you because 
with that many miles, so many things will be beyond spec that you'll 
never get it right. All the links and pivot points will be well worn. 
Once the shifting is firmed up you can expect a lot more life out of 
it. Leave it slipping and rapid degradation is imminent.
	I've had them so bad that I had to disconnect the vacuum permanently 
to keep from slipping, still got a zillion more miles out of it. Damn 
near whiplash too.


Johnny B
I Mac Therefore I am




Re: [MBZ] greetings, newbie here

2006-01-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes, you want to do the k1 deal,  There used to be a writeup before 
mbz.org crashed but not sure if its still around.


Tim C wrote:


Hello M-B folks,

My name is Tim Clark and I have recently acquired an 83 300SD.  I have a
question on it and a fellow Rennlister (a glance at my email will reveal my
other automotive "prior commitment" - all 10 of my allotted email addresses
are in use for the time being, so this will have to suffice) referred me
here, which is excellent as I found the Benzworld forums to be not quite as
useful as I had hoped.  Mr. Dave Gilmore (said R'lister) already replied
with one take on my question, but I'd now like to cut/paste said question
here and see what additional insights are generated.

Original question, slightly edited for this presentation:

I recently purchased an 83 300SD, approx 260k miles. Transmission slips on
2-3 shift - but all other shifts are solid and positive, both up and down -
and the 3-2 (edit - corrected from "4-3" which isn't the shift in question,
oops) downshift is also solid. My question is, if only the one shift is bad,
is this likely to be an adjustment issue?  I would expect if clutch pack
wear was involved, other shifts would be off too - in other words, how
likely is it that one clutch pack is toast while the others are totally fine
(my impression is there are separate clutch packs for each gear - this is my
first auto-trans car in quite awhile so please forgive ignorance there)? The
car came with sporadic records (well-documented for a few years at a time,
then nothing for a while), so I'm not sure if anything has been done to the
tranny - another question is, how long should these go before some service
is required - how likely is it that the tranny may have already received
attention at some point?  Finally, if anyone can shed light on how auto
transmissions work/what can be adjusted (pre-electronic trannies that is),
I'd appreciate it much.

Here's Dave's reply to avoid duplication of info:

"Mine does this too when cold.   I have read a K-1 spring kit solves the 
problem and it can be installed while the trans is in the car.  Rusty at 
www.buymbparts.com/ or 800-741-5252 likely can provide it.  When I first 
got my car I changed to Mobile 1 ATF and that almost cured it.  I plan to 
try the K-1 deal next.  Mine has 75,000 on it.


I have read the transmission in these cars usually last about 200,000 miles 
before a rebuild, although some people get more.  The adjustment procedure 
is complicated because of the vacuum interaction.  I suggest a fluid & 
filter change along with careful adjustment to the MB specs before doing 
anything radical.  The adjustment does alter the firmness of all the 
shifts.  That is why I am suspecting the K-1 in our cases."


Oh, and I checked the records I have - the tranny fluid was changed about 7k
miles ago, but no filter - I assume this is just like changing the oil
without changing the filter - basically pointless?  So might be a good place
to start

Thanks in advance,
Tim

88 944 (reasonably good shape, needs a few things)
83 300SD (needs paint on roof, missing a/c, pretty much everything works,
runs strongly)

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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] greetings, newbie here

2006-01-12 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Hello Tim C.

I'm also a Tim C., but my C stands for Campbell. :)

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 1/11/06, Tim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello M-B folks,
>
> My name is Tim Clark and I have recently acquired an 83 300SD.  I have a



[MBZ] greetings, newbie here

2006-01-12 Thread Tim C
Hello M-B folks,

My name is Tim Clark and I have recently acquired an 83 300SD.  I have a
question on it and a fellow Rennlister (a glance at my email will reveal my
other automotive "prior commitment" - all 10 of my allotted email addresses
are in use for the time being, so this will have to suffice) referred me
here, which is excellent as I found the Benzworld forums to be not quite as
useful as I had hoped.  Mr. Dave Gilmore (said R'lister) already replied
with one take on my question, but I'd now like to cut/paste said question
here and see what additional insights are generated.

Original question, slightly edited for this presentation:

I recently purchased an 83 300SD, approx 260k miles. Transmission slips on
2-3 shift - but all other shifts are solid and positive, both up and down -
and the 3-2 (edit - corrected from "4-3" which isn't the shift in question,
oops) downshift is also solid. My question is, if only the one shift is bad,
is this likely to be an adjustment issue?  I would expect if clutch pack
wear was involved, other shifts would be off too - in other words, how
likely is it that one clutch pack is toast while the others are totally fine
(my impression is there are separate clutch packs for each gear - this is my
first auto-trans car in quite awhile so please forgive ignorance there)? The
car came with sporadic records (well-documented for a few years at a time,
then nothing for a while), so I'm not sure if anything has been done to the
tranny - another question is, how long should these go before some service
is required - how likely is it that the tranny may have already received
attention at some point?  Finally, if anyone can shed light on how auto
transmissions work/what can be adjusted (pre-electronic trannies that is),
I'd appreciate it much.

Here's Dave's reply to avoid duplication of info:

"Mine does this too when cold.   I have read a K-1 spring kit solves the 
problem and it can be installed while the trans is in the car.  Rusty at 
www.buymbparts.com/ or 800-741-5252 likely can provide it.  When I first 
got my car I changed to Mobile 1 ATF and that almost cured it.  I plan to 
try the K-1 deal next.  Mine has 75,000 on it.

I have read the transmission in these cars usually last about 200,000 miles 
before a rebuild, although some people get more.  The adjustment procedure 
is complicated because of the vacuum interaction.  I suggest a fluid & 
filter change along with careful adjustment to the MB specs before doing 
anything radical.  The adjustment does alter the firmness of all the 
shifts.  That is why I am suspecting the K-1 in our cases."

Oh, and I checked the records I have - the tranny fluid was changed about 7k
miles ago, but no filter - I assume this is just like changing the oil
without changing the filter - basically pointless?  So might be a good place
to start

Thanks in advance,
Tim

88 944 (reasonably good shape, needs a few things)
83 300SD (needs paint on roof, missing a/c, pretty much everything works,
runs strongly)