Re: [MBZ] auto trans Q?
I've had several transmission failures and none ever made a harsh warning noise. On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 6:17 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks for the ideas. Good info Don. I would have expected some noise > if a tc dies. I had intended to convert this car to 4sp, but given its > intended use, I've decided to leave it as auto. Now I just have to > decide what/how much to do to the used spare I have before it goes in. > B2 piston, k3 spring, I guess, but something under another $100 will pay > for new guts, if i want to take the time and $$$ to do it. I'd really > like to get sun valley to rebuild it, but can't justify the , when > $$$ will fix it. > > > > > > OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 4/13/19 3:56 PM: > > Mine did not make noise when it died in the 450SLC. > > > > On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 3:43 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Fluid is right. TC? would it make noise? > >> > >> OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 4/12/19 9:48 PM: > >>> No fluid? Torque converter died? > >>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:25 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > Bushings good. you can feel the detents in the trans. Parked in > park. > neutral in neutral. No go inforward or back. Was running 55, pulled > up > to a stop sign, no more go. no sound, no noise. > > Adjustment for what? there's quite a few adjustments. modulator, > vacuum input, linkage, neutral start switch etc. > > Its tired. Been tired for a long time. We've been nursing it along > for > years. > > Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 4/12/19 9:14 PM: > > Isn't there an adjustment bolt on those? I remember something about > an > adjustment bolt. > > Change fluid and filter. > > > > Trans-medic, rebuild-in-a-can? > > > > Check the shifter bushings. > > > > Does park lock the transmission? If not, the output shaft may have > stripped off teeth. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto trans Q?
Thanks for the ideas. Good info Don. I would have expected some noise if a tc dies. I had intended to convert this car to 4sp, but given its intended use, I've decided to leave it as auto. Now I just have to decide what/how much to do to the used spare I have before it goes in. B2 piston, k3 spring, I guess, but something under another $100 will pay for new guts, if i want to take the time and $$$ to do it. I'd really like to get sun valley to rebuild it, but can't justify the , when $$$ will fix it. OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 4/13/19 3:56 PM: Mine did not make noise when it died in the 450SLC. On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 3:43 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Fluid is right. TC? would it make noise? OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 4/12/19 9:48 PM: No fluid? Torque converter died? On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:25 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Bushings good. you can feel the detents in the trans. Parked in park. neutral in neutral. No go inforward or back. Was running 55, pulled up to a stop sign, no more go. no sound, no noise. Adjustment for what? there's quite a few adjustments. modulator, vacuum input, linkage, neutral start switch etc. Its tired. Been tired for a long time. We've been nursing it along for years. Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 4/12/19 9:14 PM: Isn't there an adjustment bolt on those? I remember something about an adjustment bolt. Change fluid and filter. Trans-medic, rebuild-in-a-can? Check the shifter bushings. Does park lock the transmission? If not, the output shaft may have stripped off teeth. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto trans Q?
Mine did not make noise when it died in the 450SLC. On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 3:43 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Fluid is right. TC? would it make noise? > > OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 4/12/19 9:48 PM: > > No fluid? Torque converter died? > > > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:25 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Bushings good. you can feel the detents in the trans. Parked in park. > >> neutral in neutral. No go inforward or back. Was running 55, pulled up > >> to a stop sign, no more go. no sound, no noise. > >> > >> Adjustment for what? there's quite a few adjustments. modulator, > >> vacuum input, linkage, neutral start switch etc. > >> > >> Its tired. Been tired for a long time. We've been nursing it along for > >> years. > >> > >> Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 4/12/19 9:14 PM: > >>> Isn't there an adjustment bolt on those? I remember something about an > >> adjustment bolt. > >>> Change fluid and filter. > >>> > >>> Trans-medic, rebuild-in-a-can? > >>> > >>> Check the shifter bushings. > >>> > >>> Does park lock the transmission? If not, the output shaft may have > >> stripped off teeth. > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto trans Q?
Fluid is right. TC? would it make noise? OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 4/12/19 9:48 PM: No fluid? Torque converter died? On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:25 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Bushings good. you can feel the detents in the trans. Parked in park. neutral in neutral. No go inforward or back. Was running 55, pulled up to a stop sign, no more go. no sound, no noise. Adjustment for what? there's quite a few adjustments. modulator, vacuum input, linkage, neutral start switch etc. Its tired. Been tired for a long time. We've been nursing it along for years. Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 4/12/19 9:14 PM: Isn't there an adjustment bolt on those? I remember something about an adjustment bolt. Change fluid and filter. Trans-medic, rebuild-in-a-can? Check the shifter bushings. Does park lock the transmission? If not, the output shaft may have stripped off teeth. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto trans Q?
I suspect there was a mechanical break between the shifter and transmission. On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 12:38 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I had the pump drive ears shear off of the torque converter on the 190D. > That'll stop you cold. > My fix was a manual transmission. > > -- Jim > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto trans Q?
I had the pump drive ears shear off of the torque converter on the 190D. That'll stop you cold. My fix was a manual transmission. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto trans Q?
Yeah, something that major I would suspect a bad torque converter or failed pump. Call Sun Valley and ask Mike what he thinks it is. -D > On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > No fluid? Torque converter died? > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:25 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Bushings good. you can feel the detents in the trans. Parked in park. >> neutral in neutral. No go inforward or back. Was running 55, pulled up >> to a stop sign, no more go. no sound, no noise. >> >> Adjustment for what? there's quite a few adjustments. modulator, >> vacuum input, linkage, neutral start switch etc. >> >> Its tired. Been tired for a long time. We've been nursing it along for >> years. >> >> Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 4/12/19 9:14 PM: >>> Isn't there an adjustment bolt on those? I remember something about an >> adjustment bolt. >>> >>> Change fluid and filter. >>> >>> Trans-medic, rebuild-in-a-can? >>> >>> Check the shifter bushings. >>> >>> Does park lock the transmission? If not, the output shaft may have >> stripped off teeth. >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto trans Q?
No fluid? Torque converter died? On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:25 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Bushings good. you can feel the detents in the trans. Parked in park. > neutral in neutral. No go inforward or back. Was running 55, pulled up > to a stop sign, no more go. no sound, no noise. > > Adjustment for what? there's quite a few adjustments. modulator, > vacuum input, linkage, neutral start switch etc. > > Its tired. Been tired for a long time. We've been nursing it along for > years. > > Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 4/12/19 9:14 PM: > > Isn't there an adjustment bolt on those? I remember something about an > adjustment bolt. > > > > Change fluid and filter. > > > > Trans-medic, rebuild-in-a-can? > > > > Check the shifter bushings. > > > > Does park lock the transmission? If not, the output shaft may have > stripped off teeth. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto trans Q?
Bushings good. you can feel the detents in the trans. Parked in park. neutral in neutral. No go inforward or back. Was running 55, pulled up to a stop sign, no more go. no sound, no noise. Adjustment for what? there's quite a few adjustments. modulator, vacuum input, linkage, neutral start switch etc. Its tired. Been tired for a long time. We've been nursing it along for years. Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 4/12/19 9:14 PM: Isn't there an adjustment bolt on those? I remember something about an adjustment bolt. Change fluid and filter. Trans-medic, rebuild-in-a-can? Check the shifter bushings. Does park lock the transmission? If not, the output shaft may have stripped off teeth. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto trans Q?
Isn't there an adjustment bolt on those? I remember something about an adjustment bolt. Change fluid and filter. Trans-medic, rebuild-in-a-can? Check the shifter bushings. Does park lock the transmission? If not, the output shaft may have stripped off teeth. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On April 12, 2019 10:08:21 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: >when the auto trans just quits, won't go forward, won't go back, what >is >the usual cause. Seems to me the B2 failure lets you go back but not >forward. > >1981 240D. After 20 years with a failing trans, it died, dead, no >warning. 500 miles from the used one I got from Kleb. > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] auto trans Q?
when the auto trans just quits, won't go forward, won't go back, what is the usual cause. Seems to me the B2 failure lets you go back but not forward. 1981 240D. After 20 years with a failing trans, it died, dead, no warning. 500 miles from the used one I got from Kleb. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
