Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off
On Thu, 10 May 2012 22:05:22 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My '87 300D (126 kmi, built Oct '86) and '91 350SDL (200.7 kmi, built Dec '90) have their original exhaust systems and were OK when I parked 'em today; now that I've mouthed off about 'em, who knows? Fingers crossed. Boy, Wilton, at your age, I would expect you to have learned by now! :-) Craig About the same time this string started, I drove the '83 240D to Gainesville and back. The whole way it was making a loud exhaust type roar, but only after it reached a about 50 mph. Sort of sounds like one of the old timey cars with straight through fiberglass mufflers. Thought it was going to be trouble free for a while, but no such luck. Parked it on return and drove the 300D. Get to it later. Besides that, I had installed a new hood pad and tried water based glue which is much easier to work with. Opened the hood the other day and the pad was lying on top of the engine. Now I'd got to do it over with 3M solvent based glue. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off
Snip. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. /snip I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits! Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to most anything, but I forget the actual number... Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off
Thanks. I'll try that. Gerry.off to town. From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Snip. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. /snip I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits! Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to most anything, but I forget the actual number... Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4990 - Release Date: 05/10/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off
After consulting the web on a good nights sleep, it's 3M 90 spray adhesive that you'll be looking for. Sadly, I don't know a brick and mortar store that for sure sells it... Walt On May 11, 2012 6:42 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Thanks. I'll try that. Gerry.off to town. From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Snip. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. /snip I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits! Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to most anything, but I forget the actual number... Walt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4990 - Release Date: 05/10/12 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off
I have a can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090. Could that be it? Also have a can of 3M Super 77 Multipurpose Adhesive. When I attached the soundproofing the first time, with the hood open I draped a large sheet of plastic over the whole front end of the car and pushed it up over the wipers and windshield. It looks like that arrangement would pretty well protect the finish from overspray, so I feel more secure about using an adhesive that has volatile solvents that might damage the paint. Gerry From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com After consulting the web on a good nights sleep, it's 3M 90 spray adhesive that you'll be looking for. Sadly, I don't know a brick and mortar store that for sure sells it... Walt On May 11, 2012 6:42 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Thanks. I'll try that. Gerry.off to town. From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Snip. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. /snip I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits! Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to most anything, but I forget the actual number... Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off
On 11/05/2012 4:45 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Snip. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. /snip I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits! Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P /I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to most anything, but I forget the actual number... / Walt ___ But you have to get the right 3M product. Some of them do not withstand heat well and it will fall off again. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off
From the 3M site: 3M™ Super Trim Adhesive, 08090, Yellow, 19 oz net wt/539 g, 6 per case Aerosol contact adhesive designed for bonding vinyl tops, heavyweight liners and hood silencer pads where high strength and heat resistance are needed. Looks like the super trim is what I was thinking of! I think the 90 is the industrial tile/construction/glue trap version of it... :P I'd use painters tape to seal off the edges of the plastic,just in case. An extra 10 or so minutes vs an hour or more cleaning nuke proof adhesive off of stuff. Then again, I'm a bit paranoid about my paint... Walt On May 11, 2012 11:36 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I have a can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090. Could that be it? Also have a can of 3M Super 77 Multipurpose Adhesive. When I attached the soundproofing the first time, with the hood open I draped a large sheet of plastic over the whole front end of the car and pushed it up over the wipers and windshield. It looks like that arrangement would pretty well protect the finish from overspray, so I feel more secure about using an adhesive that has volatile solvents that might damage the paint. Gerry From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com After consulting the web on a good nights sleep, it's 3M 90 spray adhesive that you'll be looking for. Sadly, I don't know a brick and mortar store that for sure sells it... Walt On May 11, 2012 6:42 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Thanks. I'll try that. Gerry.off to town. From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Snip. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. /snip I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits! Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to most anything, but I forget the actual number... Walt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off
That sounds like the one. Good idea about sealing off the plastic. I have some of the blue painters tape from a previous wax job. Thanks, Gerry From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com From the 3M site: 3M™ Super Trim Adhesive, 08090, Yellow, 19 oz net wt/539 g, 6 per case Aerosol contact adhesive designed for bonding vinyl tops, heavyweight liners and hood silencer pads where high strength and heat resistance are needed. Looks like the super trim is what I was thinking of! I think the 90 is the industrial tile/construction/glue trap version of it... :P I'd use painters tape to seal off the edges of the plastic,just in case. An extra 10 or so minutes vs an hour or more cleaning nuke proof adhesive off of stuff. Then again, I'm a bit paranoid about my paint... Walt On May 11, 2012 11:36 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I have a can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090. Could that be it? Also have a can of 3M Super 77 Multipurpose Adhesive. When I attached the soundproofing the first time, with the hood open I draped a large sheet of plastic over the whole front end of the car and pushed it up over the wipers and windshield. It looks like that arrangement would pretty well protect the finish from overspray, so I feel more secure about using an adhesive that has volatile solvents that might damage the paint. Gerry From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com After consulting the web on a good nights sleep, it's 3M 90 spray adhesive that you'll be looking for. Sadly, I don't know a brick and mortar store that for sure sells it... Walt On May 11, 2012 6:42 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Thanks. I'll try that. Gerry.off to town. From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Snip. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. /snip I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits! Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to most anything, but I forget the actual number... Walt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4991 - Release Date: 05/11/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off
No problem, it's what the list is for. ;) Walt On May 11, 2012 11:59 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: That sounds like the one. Good idea about sealing off the plastic. I have some of the blue painters tape from a previous wax job. Thanks, Gerry From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com From the 3M site: 3M™ Super Trim Adhesive, 08090, Yellow, 19 oz net wt/539 g, 6 per case Aerosol contact adhesive designed for bonding vinyl tops, heavyweight liners and hood silencer pads where high strength and heat resistance are needed. Looks like the super trim is what I was thinking of! I think the 90 is the industrial tile/construction/glue trap version of it... :P I'd use painters tape to seal off the edges of the plastic,just in case. An extra 10 or so minutes vs an hour or more cleaning nuke proof adhesive off of stuff. Then again, I'm a bit paranoid about my paint... Walt On May 11, 2012 11:36 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I have a can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090. Could that be it? Also have a can of 3M Super 77 Multipurpose Adhesive. When I attached the soundproofing the first time, with the hood open I draped a large sheet of plastic over the whole front end of the car and pushed it up over the wipers and windshield. It looks like that arrangement would pretty well protect the finish from overspray, so I feel more secure about using an adhesive that has volatile solvents that might damage the paint. Gerry From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com After consulting the web on a good nights sleep, it's 3M 90 spray adhesive that you'll be looking for. Sadly, I don't know a brick and mortar store that for sure sells it... Walt On May 11, 2012 6:42 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Thanks. I'll try that. Gerry.off to town. From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Snip. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. /snip I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits! Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to most anything, but I forget the actual number... Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4991 - Release Date: 05/11/12 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off
There is 8090 and 8088 if I recall correctly. One is heavy duty and the other is just general, which I assume would not be heavy duty. Wicked stuff. Just be sure to cover up well, as it is like brake fluid when it gets on paint. The second it touches paint the surface is destroyed. Don't ask me how I know Dan On May 11, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I have a can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090. Could that be it? Also have a can of 3M Super 77 Multipurpose Adhesive. When I attached the soundproofing the first time, with the hood open I draped a large sheet of plastic over the whole front end of the car and pushed it up over the wipers and windshield. It looks like that arrangement would pretty well protect the finish from overspray, so I feel more secure about using an adhesive that has volatile solvents that might damage the paint. Gerry From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com After consulting the web on a good nights sleep, it's 3M 90 spray adhesive that you'll be looking for. Sadly, I don't know a brick and mortar store that for sure sells it... Walt On May 11, 2012 6:42 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Thanks. I'll try that. Gerry.off to town. From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Snip. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. /snip I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits! Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to most anything, but I forget the actual number... Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off
3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090 is what I used on three different cars, still holding fine after several years. Unfortunately, I didn't need to worry about the paint - it's shot on all three cars already (peeling clear coat). I didn't notive any over spray on the cars, but I'm not sure I would have :-) On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: I have a can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090. Could that be it? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off
Good to hear that. Not worried about the 300D which is a beater, but would not like to damage the paint on the 240D which is pristine. Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090 is what I used on three different cars, still holding fine after several years. Unfortunately, I didn't need to worry about the paint - it's shot on all three cars already (peeling clear coat). I didn't notive any over spray on the cars, but I'm not sure I would have :-) On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: I have a can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090. Could that be it? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4992 - Release Date: 05/11/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off
My '87 300D (126 kmi, built Oct '86) and '91 350SDL (200.7 kmi, built Dec '90) have their original exhaust systems and were OK when I parked 'em today; now that I've mouthed off about 'em, who knows? Fingers crossed. Wilton - Original Message - From: rdeaf...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:28 PM Subject: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off I used Miracle Paint leftover from doing my bodywork. That was 3 years ago and it still doesn't rust on the external exhaust pipes. Of course I wire brushed it before applying 2 coats of the Miracle Paint. Google it buy direct from N.J.[Bill Hirsch ]. I didn't have to top coat it since it's not exposed to sunlight . I bought my 83 240D in '97 and still have the same exhaust system. Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off
On Thu, 10 May 2012 22:05:22 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My '87 300D (126 kmi, built Oct '86) and '91 350SDL (200.7 kmi, built Dec '90) have their original exhaust systems and were OK when I parked 'em today; now that I've mouthed off about 'em, who knows? Fingers crossed. Boy, Wilton, at your age, I would expect you to have learned by now! :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
