Re: Does your MC crash too?

2003-08-14 Thread eric . allen . engle
I don't think its an image problem since my MC also
crashes when I just open the help stacks and click on
the hyperlinks therein.

I do think its an OS problem since MC 2.x was stable as
could be on my IBM laptop and Mac 68030.

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Re: Does your MC crash too?

2003-08-14 Thread eric . allen . engle
>>Well, I'm not sure if this is gonna help, but I have
>>the feeling it's a memory problem.
...
>>I only experienced these problems in edit mode.
In standalones everything's works perfect...

DITTO: I never once had a problem with standalones,
only happens in edit mode.

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RE: Does your MC crash too?

2003-08-14 Thread eric . allen . engle
Yes, I have a similar problem. I am told however that
it is due to the memory management of the OS, which  I
believe since OS architecture was designed around
supporting Kbytes of memory and drive space and now has
to support Mbytes and GBytes. Not only HTML images but
the MC help stacks also do this. Rev incidentally also
does this, only more often! So I'm planning to get a
mac rev license in the hope that this problem is
confined to the PC platform. Ideas?

I have not solved this problem because this is my
work-machine and my sysadmin is already nervous enough
about me knowing more about the system and trying to
"push it to its limits". So I don't want to get under
her skin by saying "Hey, can we do a clean install of
the OS in case there is an OS problem?"

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RE: MC/RR and Email launching - windows?

2003-08-14 Thread eric . allen . engle
Is there a windows/MC solution to sending e-mail? I
haven't seen anything in the documentation on MC for
this and runrev just crashes repeatedly on my system (I
presume not due to rev's fault but to my OS).

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Re: Does your MC crash too?

2003-08-14 Thread eric . allen . engle

> Hi guys,
> since your message is from 13th - check if you have
> this W32.Blaster.Worm on
> your machine.
> regards
> eugen


Not in my case: I've had this problem for a few months
now actually. I really think, at least for me, it's an
OS problem (Win 98) since under 95 and Macos I had no
such problem. Further, the hyperlinks in my MC help
stack work just fine - when i have the machine set to 4
bit color :~/ 
Might also therefore be a driver problem...


I cannot imagine how the GUI would make the program
unstable. The engine is rock solid. 

Nope, I think me and whoever else has this problem just
needs a clean OS install try telling that to my old
school sysadmin/secretary. That's what's lovely about
academic secretaries - they're not in a subordinate
role, which means _I_ have to lick her boots, and not
the other way around (as in the private sector). Ah,
the joys of seniority...

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Re: Re:METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!

2003-07-09 Thread eric . allen . engle


> Do I hear a suggestion out there in the Rev world?
> 
> Does this MC List get mereged into the Rev List?
> 
> Will Scott's Wise Eye watch over us chickens when we
> start to PANIC?

Well, myself, I would prefer not to merge the lists. I
get two rev daily digests and I have so little time. I
get MC as well but as individual mails to my
professional and not personal account. 

But I have no idea what MC/RR will or should decide. 

Damn. And I just quit drinking. Otherwise I'd uncork a
bottle of champagne.

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Re: METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!

2003-07-09 Thread eric . allen . engle
 Basically, if Rev's single users educational
license is 99 per copy I can definitely have a chat
with the administration. However I have to show them
that deployable products will result. Since I've
published a couple of programs using metaCard in law
reviews I think this can be shown. 


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Re: how to open an html file

2003-07-02 Thread eric . allen . engle
the building blocks you want to work with are:

ask file  -- which invokes a dialog box which will
allow you to choose the file you want to read

open for read -- which lets you open the file you want
to read (when your done reading be sure to use "close
file" to avoid problems)

you'll also need 

theHtmlText.

The way I did this was to build a stack with one button
and two fields. What you are going to do is read raw
HTML into the one field, get that field's html text
property and put that into your second field. You could
of course do this with containers, but I prefer working
with fields. You can set "the visible"  field one (the
field into which raw html is imported) to false.

I'd recommend actually writing the routine yourself
since you'll learn more and be able to do exactly what
you want with the field. 

I have a stack here:
http://www.runrev.com/revolution/downloads/developerdownloads/ENGLEMCRRStacks.zip

that does this, it imports html, and lets you write it
to a field. Have fun. If you wish to use it
commercially please ask for a license. I'm an academic
and need publication credit. I.e. the license you have
is for personal use. If you want more contact me off
list.

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kjphyland@australia.edu

2003-06-25 Thread eric . allen . engle
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 20:22:09 +1000,
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> 
> Hi every1,
> 
> Sorry to bother the list with what can only be called
> administrivia...but
> I've finally saved up enough money to purchase a
> full-blown copy of
> Metacard and wonder if anybody can help me with where
I
> may purchase it in
> Australia. I'm a secondary school teacher and have
> *almost* convinced the
> heirarchy here that I can write a better
report-writing
> program than the
> god-awful FileMaker-based thing we paid A$2500 for a
> few years back! (and
> believe me it IS clunky and NON-INTUITIVE!!!) :))
> 
> I don't think the school has a policy of internet
> purchase so if any
> addresses may be forthcoming I'd much appreciate it!
> 
> Cheers,
> Kevin Phyland
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RE: memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread eric . allen . engle
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:56:03 -0700, "Yates, Glen" wrote:

> 
> Sounds like your machine is most definitely infected
> with a virus, and not
> just any virus, but that most virulent and heinous of
> virii - the windows
> virus. The only cure for this is to install linux or
> better yet, freeBSD.
> 
> -Glen

Believe me if I weren't trapped in my idiotica
sysadmins sheep universe I would!!!

I've already recommended that we drop windows for
budgetary reasons. 

Windows=Expensive+Crash

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Re: memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread eric . allen . engle

> Sounds like a video driver problem. If basilisk allows
> you to update the 
> emulated video driver, that what you should do.
> 

UGH. I hate windows drivers problems. 
*Sigh. 
This really should not be the cause - windows _claims
to have all video drivers properly installed (demonic
snicker)... thanks for the tip. 

Mind you MC 2.2 under basilisk functions fine on this
machine - so if that changes your advice at all please
let me know!

Thanks

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Re: memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread eric . allen . engle

> Last I heard, MC was not supposed to support 4 bit
> color.  It would run, but
> according to Scott Raney, the company doesn't
> officially support this color
> depth.
> 
> Strange...
> 
> Regards,

Um, well, yeah it runs... ...sort of. Icon's and other
graphics don't show up. But boy do those links sure go!

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Re: memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread eric . allen . engle
Sadly none of these is the source of the error. I've
literally reinstalled a virgin copy of MC 2.5,
deinstalled all earlier copies of MC and -still- had it
crash. 

Oddly the help stacks are the best instance of causing
the crash. The hyperlinks in the "See also" never
function and cause the crash. I'm sure this must be an
error on my machine - but where. The reason I think its
my machine is that when I set my color depth to a
joyous 4 bits (or was it 4 colors? Anyway, the lowest
setting possible) the stacks function fine (though
obviously with no color worth speaking of).

I've tried cleaning my registry, disabling all
autostart proggies, including antivirus, and running
offline. I'm sort of at wits end here, though I can
work around using basilisk and 2.2. This is actually
why I didn't beta RR - I thought it was just an RR
problem at first because for whatever reason RR crashes
more frequently on my idiosyncratic machine.

SO my question is, whatever could be the source of this
idiosyncracy? Memory leaks? And what possible cures are
there?

(P.S. my machine has virus protection, and I never use
outlook or address books so I doubt its a virus -
otherwise other proggies would get bitten, and they
don't).

>>Avoid HTML text with images in fields  - superbe
feature, definite party crasher!
(2.4>)

Yes, my experience too, though YMMV?
In any event: Not the culprit.

>ImagesData manipulations can also wreak havoc... Will
probably corrupt your stack too!
(Any version which supports it)

Not the culprit.


>Making 2 fields synchronize each other's VScroll will
kill MC with lots of flashes while your flds scroll. 
(Any version)

Not the culprit.

>Last but not least of my experience in crashing MC is
the infinite loop trick. It's impossible to get out of
it
UNLESS you put in some statements to make MC work and
thus look at the keyboard...
(any version - you wanted execution speed?)

Doesn't MC implement COMMAND PERIOD to stop scripts
like a speeding bullet?
Anyway, I do not think this is the culprit. The thing
hangs on a clean install of MC 2.4 and 2.5 whenever I
try to use the MetaCard reference stack and "see also".

Sorry to bug people this way, but I really am at wits
end and would do my best to return the favor of advice.

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memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread eric . allen . engle
I have an odd problem: When I run metacard 2.2 under
basilisk it runs perfectly fine.

On the other hand, when I try to run metacard 2.4, 2.5
or revolution 1.1.1 under windows it hangs. Often.

I have no idea what could be causing this behavior. I'm
sure you don't either since you dont have my registry
or nay of my .ini or .dll files.

Still I'm hoping someone can give me a clue as to what
might be causing this problem. My machine has 128mb
memory, plenty of space on the hard drive. I would
think it a memory problem (seems to be the case) but
what could provoke it and why does it not affect MC
under basilisk?

ANY advice appreciated.

Thanks - if I can return a favor just ask.

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RE: Fwd: altBrowser Question and MAC version of altBrowser...

2003-06-16 Thread eric . allen . engle
Dropped the dll into c, and windows, and system and the
desktop (where I have the executable for now). Works
fine, even behind a firewall. Spits up cookies though,
i.e. won't let me sign into yahoo (I don't regard that
as a major problem though).

Really, very good job, I'm seriously impressed. 

There is no way you could do that within metacard,
right? It was all in the DLL? While I'm very familiar
with macOS classic I'm still figuring out windows, to
say nought of unix.

My mind is racing... you really blow me away. For a
good laugh, my browser is on the http://runrev.com
developer download section. Try not to laugh (though
mine is all native xTalk).

Again, congratulations, I feel like that guy who went
to the north pole only to find someone else beat him
there first, but then again am elated at your
achievement. 

I think 30 bucks is a fair price, especially for
developpers.

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metacard bug?

2003-06-13 Thread eric . allen . engle
I have a question - I'm behind a firewall (which I
suspect of being dodgy - it often drops my AIM
client...). And metacard is crashing and behaving
oddly. I thought "must be because of my having played
with the home stack - ok, download clean copy of
metacard" - but the problem did not go away. 

Specifically MC "freezes" when I try to use the help
documentations hyperlinks. It also sometimes does not
react to metacard menubar commands.

Anyway can someone confirm whether this could be caused
by
1) dodgy firewall or
2) dodgy windows 98 network.

I'm going to try rebooting completely unnetworked and
see what happens. But someone once suggested it might
be due to memory leaks - which is something I know
nothing about.

TIA

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posting to MC on cgi/bin - how?

2003-06-12 Thread eric . allen . engle
I hope this question is not too ignorant; I have
installed metacard on my CGI directory and set the
permissions (chmod) properly. What can I do with the
engine, and how do I do it? Do I use the form post
command (ok...) and if so do I then send raw metatalk? 

I know it must seem ignorant and I really thank anyone
for any help on this.

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Re: HyperCard Porting

2003-06-05 Thread eric . allen . engle
you can put an autocompact handler in your hypercard
stacks... 

on openstack
 
end openstack

on closestack
 
end closestack

You can even put handlers like this into your home
stack , i.e. with clever scripting you should not need
to put these handlers in each and every stack - though
I would recommend doing so!

I never need to do this so I do not know what the
command is -  is just pseudo code
but you can definitely tell a hypercard stack to
compact itself. 

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Re: HyperCard Porting

2003-06-05 Thread eric . allen . engle

> FWIW, I've never knowingly compacted a stack before
> importing it - and never
> seen a problem caused by this - but it can't hurt!
> 

Actually the metaCard documentation explicitly says you
should (i.e. must) compact stacks before importing
them. And I have had this cause runtime errors, though
sometimes they are not as dramatic as a system crash.

It's in the documentation for a reason. All those stray
code snippets can bite back in unforseen ways. 

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Re: HyperCard Porting

2003-06-05 Thread eric . allen . engle
ARE YOU COMPACTING YOUR STACKS BEFORE PORTING THEM?

Almost certainly the cause of errors.

otherwise: 

Check for XCMD calls.

Make sure your syntax conforms to metacard. 
Use parantheses instead of "of"
Be careful with the use of "the"
Make sure ask uses with... or... or...

My hypercard ports never crash the PC or MC 
IF i first compact them.

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saving in a standalone?

2003-04-03 Thread eric . allen . engle
This is a feature request/question:

The metacard and revolution documentation clearly state
that (apparently because of system requirements?) it is
impossible to save changes made within a standalone.

I presume there is no workaround to this other than
distributing a copy of the MC engine with the stack as
a runtime module.

I think that it would be better, if possible, to have
standalones be able to save to themselves. This is
because end-users will want things "simple" and not to
have to worry about keeping their stack and runtime
module in the same folder. 

Is there any workaround planned for this limitation? 
Is it better to market metacard stacks as standlones (I
think so) or is it better to market metacard as a stack
browser (I'm not sure)? I think the hypercard player
was actually a mistake. I also think apple's failure to
integrate hypercard into the WWW was also a major
mistake. I'm forced to deal with anemic javascript and
half baked data when it is clear that metacard is
superior at data management than javascript. 

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Re: Bug Report 2.5b6

2003-03-29 Thread eric . allen . engle
> Yup. I reported this a day or two ago, so it is on the
> to-fix list.

Cool!

I also noticed you pointed out that "Sort cards of this
background by card field one" (for example) i.e. sort
cards by background does not yet work. Is that
scheduled for 2.5 or later? It doesn't seem to work in
2.5b6.

A workaround for that is to put a hidden field on each
card with the number of the background and then to do a
series of sorts

sort cards by card field title --or whatever...
sort cards by hiddenBackGround

as long as the backgrounds are sequentially numbered I
believe this works fine, though I have only tested it
very briefly.

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Bug Report 2.5b6

2003-03-29 Thread eric . allen . engle
Sorry to say the MC 2.5b6 does not import pop up
buttons from hypercard properly. 

These are buttons with "contents", of style "Popup".
The buttons import, the scripts import, but the
contents do not.

At first I thought this was just an incompatibility or
a failure to compact my stack before importing. Nope.
Further, I checked it in 2.4.3 - in 2.4.3 the contents
of popup buttons imported from hypercard are retained.

So, it's a bug. 

A temporary workaround, which I will try, is to import
the stack from MC 2.4.3 and then use it in 2.5. I see
no reason why that would not work.

On a brighter note, the styled text in 2.5b6 works
wonderfully! All accented characters which I tested
(lower case accent grave, aigu, circonflex, and es-zet)
worked fine, even when mixed with italics and export
properly as RTF. Colors do not though, but presume that
is not a bug. 

Now that we have a firewall I am going to see about
getting the metacard internet browser running through a
proxy. No promises though. 

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importing popup buttons contents from HC?

2003-03-25 Thread eric . allen . engle
I am using Metacard 2.5 b6 - so far the accents and
styled fields export just fine in windows! Good job! (I
use a basilisk emulator for mac so I cannot test for
mac compatability, and I don't have unix - sorry).

On thing I did notice, which I do not think is  unique
to 2.5b6 (i.e. I don't think this is a bug) is that
when I import a hypercard stack with popup buttons the
contents of the buttons are not imported.

This is not a problem to me but I thought I should
mention it. 

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Re: Re:C function in metaTalk?

2003-03-14 Thread eric . allen . engle
Salut,

Je suis content d'avoir une solution. Très mécontente
de n'avoir pas trouvé moi même...

Une solution itérative j'ai trouvé... mais la récursion
ca fait tourner ma tête...

I'm happy to have a solution though I wish I found it
myself. I got to an iterative solution, but have yet to
 figure out how to turn my iterative solution into a
recursive solution. What I really find galling is that
the recursive solution looks so damned easy - _after
someone gives it too you...

I did figure out that the C function I provided does
not return

abc
ab
bc
ac
a
b
c

but rather

abc
bca
cba
etc...

Thanks again!

Merci encore!

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Re: MetaCard Web Browser

2003-03-13 Thread eric . allen . engle
> Eric Engle's browser is just subject to the
limitations
> of the specific
> Metacard-HTML capabilities that were discussed several
> times on this
> list.
> 
> Apart from the disability to display images 

Actually the browser -does- display images and
hyperlinks work as well. However metaCard displays
those images in the same space as a single character,
e.g. "a word X another word X" where X represents a
picture (of arbitrary size), i.e. the image is a part
of a styled text field. 

The other nice thing is that the hyperlinks work. You
-can- click on a link and (well, unless your subjected
to some vagary of a CGI) go to a new page. I *think*
php is supported in the protocol. 

If I were to take this further I would develop a way to
autoformat the images. However since I'm not aware of a
property (this is all "just" styled text) that would
tell me how large the images are (other than parsing
the HTML source) that would not be so easy. 

Another interesting tidbit: this was developed using
the MC starter kit! If MC or RR want to distribute this
feel free.

Do people think that a MC standalone web browser would
be at all useful? I actually did make one, it's not all
that difficult. Again, if MC or RR want a copy of this
just ask.

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C function in metaTalk?

2003-03-13 Thread eric . allen . engle
I'm trying to translate the following C functions into
hypertalk.
If done properly they take as input a string, say ABC
and then 
permutate it into
a
a b
a b c
b 
b c
c

UGLY C***
void permsWithPrefix(string s, string prefix)

public static void printPerms(String s)
{
permsWithPrefix(s, "");
}

public static void permsWithPrefix(String s, string
prefix)
{
if (s.length() < 2)
{
System.out.println(prefix + s);
}

else

{
String remainder;
for (int i = 0; i < s.length(); ++i)
{
remainder = s.substring(0,i) + s.substring(i+1);
permsWithPrefix(remainder, prefix + s.charAt(i));
}
}
}

The closest I've gotten turning this into hypertalk is:



SWEET METATALK:*
on permswithprefix s, prefix
  
  if the length of s < 2 then put prefix & s & return
after cd fld 1 
else

repeat with  i = 0 to the length of s
  put character 0 to i of s into remainder
  put character i+1 of s after remainder
  permswithprefix remainder, prefix & character i
of s
end repeat
  end if
  
end permswithprefix


on printperms s
  permswithprefix s, ""
end printperms




on mouseUp
  printperms abc
end mouseUp


*

But it still doesn't work, apparently because the
substring function in 
c will deliver 1 character(!) if you say
"eric".substring(2,3) 
// -- returns r, if I remember correctly

Any ideas? I would really like to just translate this
function.

Thanks!

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Re: MetaCard Web Browser

2003-03-13 Thread eric . allen . engle
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Sadhunathan Nadesan wrote:

> 
> Very kewl!
> 
> It doesn't seem to work for me though.  I enter a URL
> and it
> just says 'loading be patient' in the message box,
> and nothing ever happens.
> 
> ??

try another url. Urls must end in html, htm or /

my copy works fine (are your network settings correct?)

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MetaCard Web Browser

2003-03-12 Thread eric . allen . engle
Hi!

I built a very primitive web browser using metaCard.

It is available on the RR site (MC/RR Internet Browser,
MIB)

http://www.runrev.com/revolution/developers/developerdownloads/usercontributions.html


It's not particularly stable, not due to my fault. It
never crashes my system (Windows 98) but does sometimes
crash M/C (or at least cause it to hang). 

If anyone is willing to look at this and tell me what
they think I would be really grateful. I think MC/RR
could and should develop further along these lines.

Best wishes,

Eric Engle

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