New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-26 Thread John Hamlik

I have been able to duplicate this problem on
https://en4.engelschall.com.

With an IE4.0 or greater browser connect to
https://en4.engelschall.com/manual/mod/mod_ssl
Wait at least 16secs. (keep-alive is set to 15secs)
Click Refresh.

For some reason I cannot get it to happen on the index.html page, this
threw me for a while.

John

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Re: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-26 Thread Mark Stosberg


I just discovered I couldn't connect to this site with Mac IE 4.
However, I got a different error message, so I assume it may be another
problem, perhaps my own IE configuration. (I use it rarely. :) My error
is is something like: 
"Unable to estabish a secure connection ... there is a problem with the
security certificate from this site." It's not like I have option to
trust the site's security (like netscape gives you), I just don't have a choice.

 -mark

John Hamlik wrote:
> 
> I have been able to duplicate this problem on
> https://en4.engelschall.com.
> 
> With an IE4.0 or greater browser connect to
> https://en4.engelschall.com/manual/mod/mod_ssl
> Wait at least 16secs. (keep-alive is set to 15secs)
> Click Refresh.
> 
> For some reason I cannot get it to happen on the index.html page, this
> threw me for a while.
> 
> John
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Re: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-26 Thread Ralf S. Engelschall

On Fri, Mar 26, 1999, Mark Stosberg wrote:

> I just discovered I couldn't connect to this site with Mac IE 4.  However, I
> got a different error message, so I assume it may be another problem,
> perhaps my own IE configuration. (I use it rarely. :) My error is is
> something like: "Unable to estabish a secure connection ... there is a
> problem with the security certificate from this site." It's not like I have
> option to trust the site's security (like netscape gives you), I just don't
> have a choice.

Yeah, AFAIK in old IE versions it's complicated to configure the CA
certificates. But that's really a different kind of problem and not caused by
mod_ssl. 

So, what's the current state, friends? As I see it, we've still not found
clients which cannot connect to en4.engelschall.com (except those with the CA
certificate problem which do not count, of course).  In other words: Still no
hangs or real I/O errors?
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RE: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-26 Thread John Imrie


> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Stosberg [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 1999 10:00 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com
> 
> 
> I just discovered I couldn't connect to this site with Mac IE 4.
> However, I got a different error message, so I assume it may be another
> problem, perhaps my own IE configuration. (I use it rarely. :) My error
> is is something like: 
> "Unable to estabish a secure connection ... there is a problem with the
> security certificate from this site." It's not like I have option to
> trust the site's security (like netscape gives you), I just don't have a choice.
> 
>  -mark
> 
That's the problem with Microsoft. They don't want you to trust anyone who hasn't paid 
them lots of money. :)
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Re: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-26 Thread Steffen Dettmer

> With an IE4.0 or greater browser connect to
> https://en4.engelschall.com/manual/mod/mod_ssl
> Wait at least 16secs. (keep-alive is set to 15secs)
> Click Refresh.

I got an error too under this circumstances:
(tried to translate from german language)
"The Site http/mod_ssl could not be opened.
 The Server supplied an invalid or unknown answer"

Then I click "OK" and reload again, and this time it works...
Maybe an IE4 problem?

oki,

Steffen

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Re: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-26 Thread Andre Gustavo de Carvalho Albuquerque

Ralf S. Engelschall wrote:
> Yeah, AFAIK in old IE versions it's complicated to configure the CA
> certificates. But that's really a different kind of problem and not caused by
> mod_ssl. 
> 
> So, what's the current state, friends? As I see it, we've still not found
> clients which cannot connect to en4.engelschall.com (except those with the CA
> certificate problem which do not count, of course).  In other words: Still no
> hangs or real I/O errors?

   My IE 4.0 (4.72.3110.8 - WinNT 4.0) was not able to connect. When
I try to connect, I receive an dialog saying that IE wasn't able to
connect and that the browser received an incorrect or unknown reply
from the server.

   The current time here is 08:22 a.m. (GMT-0300).

   Regards, Gustavo

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Re: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-26 Thread Bodo Moeller

On Fri, Mar 26, 1999 at 11:45:41AM +, John Imrie wrote:

>> I just discovered I couldn't connect to this site with Mac IE 4.
[...]
>> "Unable to estabish a secure connection ... there is a problem with the
>> security certificate from this site." It's not like I have option to
>> trust the site's security (like netscape gives you), [...]

> That's the problem with Microsoft. They don't want you to trust
> anyone who hasn't paid them lots of money. :)

I recently used IE 5.0 for some seconds and found out that these
annoyances have been removed: The user is told exactly what's wrong
and what's O.K. with a certificate (known/unkown CA, valid/invalid,
correct/wrong site-name), and there is the possibility to connect even
if something's wrong.  Also, the silly bug was fixed that you had to
delete the cache after accepting a new CA certificate.  All that looks
really nice now -- different from Netscape, but everything seems to
make sense.

The problem is of course that IE 5 is not available for Macs (after
all, it's a core part of the Windows operating system, as everyone
knows by now :-).

Bodo M"oller
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RE: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-26 Thread John Hamlik

(PR#136) does exists on en4.engelschall.com.  This problem does not
exists on mod_ssl-2.2.3.   This started after you moved the close
connection stuff.  So I would disagree with your statement.
> 
> So, what's the current state, friends? As I see it, we've 
> still not found
> clients which cannot connect to en4.engelschall.com (except 
> those with the CA
> certificate problem which do not count, of course).  In other 
> words: Still no
> hangs or real I/O errors?
>Ralf S. Engelschall
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RE: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-26 Thread John Hamlik

It happens on IE4.0 and greater and possibly earlier versions as well.
If it is necessary to know I can use a verisign certificate and test
with a 3.02 version.  It did not show up until mod_ssl-2.2.5.

John

> -Original Message-
> From: Steffen Dettmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 1999 3:59 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on 
> https://en4.engelschall.com
> 
> 
> > With an IE4.0 or greater browser connect to
> > https://en4.engelschall.com/manual/mod/mod_ssl
> > Wait at least 16secs. (keep-alive is set to 15secs)
> > Click Refresh.
> 
> I got an error too under this circumstances:
> (tried to translate from german language)
> "The Site http/mod_ssl could not be opened.
>  The Server supplied an invalid or unknown answer"
> 
> Then I click "OK" and reload again, and this time it works...
> Maybe an IE4 problem?
> 
> oki,
> 
> Steffen
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RE: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-26 Thread Christian Buysschaert

> I have been able to duplicate this problem on
> https://en4.engelschall.com.
> 
> With an IE4.0 or greater browser connect to
> https://en4.engelschall.com/manual/mod/mod_ssl
> Wait at least 16secs. (keep-alive is set to 15secs)
> Click Refresh.
> 
> For some reason I cannot get it to happen on the index.html page, this
> threw me for a while.

On my machine NT4W SP4, IE5, I've been clicking refresh a couple
of times now (intervals of 2 to 3 minutes) and I haven't got any
error!!!

Christian.

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RE: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-26 Thread Christian Buysschaert

> It happens on IE4.0 and greater and possibly earlier versions as well.
> If it is necessary to know I can use a verisign certificate and test
> with a 3.02 version.  It did not show up until mod_ssl-2.2.5.

It doesn't show up with a IE5.0 so you are somewhat wrong in your
generalization!

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RE: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-26 Thread Christian Buysschaert

> It happens on IE4.0 and greater and possibly earlier versions as well.
> If it is necessary to know I can use a verisign certificate and test
> with a 3.02 version.  It did not show up until mod_ssl-2.2.5.

Just tried on NT4Server SP4, IE4.01SP1... Experienced no problems at all...

Christian.

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RE: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-26 Thread John Hamlik

I have duplicated it on IE5.00.2014.0216 so it is not a generalization.
Are you using index.html or the link I provided?

> -Original Message-
> From: Christian Buysschaert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 1999 4:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on 
> https://en4.engelschall.com
> 
> 
> > It happens on IE4.0 and greater and possibly earlier 
> versions as well.
> > If it is necessary to know I can use a verisign certificate and test
> > with a 3.02 version.  It did not show up until mod_ssl-2.2.5.
> 
> It doesn't show up with a IE5.0 so you are somewhat wrong in your
> generalization!
> 
> Christian.
> 
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RE: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-27 Thread John Hamlik

Just for further information this has been duplicated on NT4.0 SP3 & 4,
Win98, IE4.0 & IE5.0.  It has been duplicated on 10 different machines
ranging from celeron 300's to dual processor PII400's at 3 seperate
locations.  I would not submit a problem that I felt could not be
duplicated or only happened on a single machine.

John

> -Original Message-
> From: Christian Buysschaert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 1999 4:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on 
> https://en4.engelschall.com
> 
> 
> > It happens on IE4.0 and greater and possibly earlier 
> versions as well.
> > If it is necessary to know I can use a verisign certificate and test
> > with a 3.02 version.  It did not show up until mod_ssl-2.2.5.
> 
> Just tried on NT4Server SP4, IE4.01SP1... Experienced no 
> problems at all...
> 
> Christian.
> 
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RE: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-27 Thread John Hamlik

2-3 minutes is too long.  Sorry I did not specify clearer.  You must
refresh between 16 and 59 secs after the page completes.

John

> -Original Message-
> From: Christian Buysschaert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 1999 4:20 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on 
> https://en4.engelschall.com
> 
> 
> > I have been able to duplicate this problem on
> > https://en4.engelschall.com.
> > 
> > With an IE4.0 or greater browser connect to
> > https://en4.engelschall.com/manual/mod/mod_ssl
> > Wait at least 16secs. (keep-alive is set to 15secs)
> > Click Refresh.
> > 
> > For some reason I cannot get it to happen on the index.html 
> page, this
> > threw me for a while.
> 
> On my machine NT4W SP4, IE5, I've been clicking refresh a couple
> of times now (intervals of 2 to 3 minutes) and I haven't got any
> error!!!
> 
> Christian.
> 
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RE: New Info (PR#136) repeatable on https://en4.engelschall.com

1999-03-27 Thread Christian Buysschaert

Hello John,

> > > With an IE4.0 or greater browser connect to
> > > https://en4.engelschall.com/manual/mod/mod_ssl
> > > Wait at least 16secs. (keep-alive is set to 15secs)
> > > Click Refresh.

> 2-3 minutes is too long.  Sorry I did not specify clearer.  You must
> refresh between 16 and 59 secs after the page completes.

Ah, okay, got it! My God, how did you find this one? ;-) Waiting
longer than a minute doesn't show the problem...

Problem confirmed on 
- NT4 Workstation SP4 IE5
- NT4 Server SP4 IE4.01SP1

Coudn't confirm it on any other browser (Opera, Netscape) and
also not when using the ISP proxy (I'm a cablesurfer ;-) )...

Christian.

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