Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Chris Petersen
I just had my second Western Digital Special Edition 200 GB drive die on me.
My company ships hundreds of these every month, with very few problems. 
 Seagate is still our favorite, as far as reliability goes.  We were 
wary of WD when we first started using them (there was a point when 
Seagate just wasn't making big enough drives for our storage servers), 
but the WD jb drives (don't bother with the bb, etc) have seemed to be 
pretty decent, all things considered.

Keep in mind that a few drives dying is bound to happen -- there have 
been had lots where every drive in a group will die within a relatively 
short period of time -- but when you deal with hundreds, a few here and 
there is a lot less damaging than when the few are the only two you have.

No one in the reliable-storage industry trusts maxtor yet.  Their older 
drives are pretty reliable (I have a 20G that works great), but there 
was a period where their quality/reliability really sucked, and they 
have yet to repair the damage it caused to their image.

Please also keep in mind that I'm talking about SATA drives.  WD's PATA 
drives were considerably less reliable than their SATA drives are (but 
still not that bad, all things considered)

Personally, I'd go with seagate 7200.7 -- it's what I have running in my 
pundit, and has been going fine for almost a year now.  Seagate also has 
a longer warranty than the other companies.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Fred Squires
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:53:36 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just had my second Western Digital Special Edition 200 GB drive die on me.  
 Since I'm using an ASUS Pundit, I figured heat was the culprit, so the second 
 drive had a dual-fan cooler on it.  No such luck.  After about three months 
 of use, performance suddenly degrades, and the journals begin to corrupt.  A 
 few days later, I/O errors crop up, and the drive is pretty much useless.
 
 Are these drives just not up to the stress of a PVR?  I'm interested in 
 hearing what kind of drives people have had good luck with, as I've about had 
 it with these.  I'll get my third on warranty, but It won't be going back 
 into a myth box.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Paul
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I've had good luck recently with seagate drives, and a lot of people
recommend the Maxtor Quickview drives.  The quickviews are made to be
used with a pvr.

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Re: [mythtv-users] pvr-350 tv-out hanging in live tv

2004-12-14 Thread Egon Burgener
Hi 

I am using kernel 2.6.8-1 and I had pretty the same problem with the
ivtv-driver. But since I have patched my kernel to use software suspend
2 the tv-out has never been hanging again. The software suspend patch
breaks the ivtv code, so you have to adapt it (I had to change 2 lines
in the driver source code). 

Second problem:
Which Xserver do you use? 
I really recommend ivtvdev_drv_o. You will find it in the utils
directory of ivtv.
Do you have DMA enabled on your DVD-Drive?
Do you have DMA enabled on your Harddisk?

cheers
Egon

Am Di, 2004-12-14 um 14.03 schrieb Juan C. Gallardo:
 Hello
 
 I just manage to get the pvr-350 work over X. It looks great! and I will 
 like to keep using it, but I am having two problems.
 The first as says on the title. When I try to watch live tv it hangs, 
 after a minute or something like that.
 I have selected to use the pvr-350 in the tv setup.
 My videos plays perfect with mplayer, from inside and outside of 
 mythfrontend.
 
 The second problem is that if I try to watch a DVD is vry slow. I am 
 using xine to play DVDs. I am guessing that it has to be something about 
 playing MPG movies over X with the ivtv driver. So is tehre a way to use 
 xine to play dvd over X using the pvr-350 tv output?
 I think I have read something about a special version of xine to use 
 with the pvr-350. Is that what I should use? if so, where can I found it?
 
 Of course, the first problem is the most important. I really want to use 
 the pvr output, it looks s much better than my nvidia output, the 
 colors are perfect.
 
 Any idea, anyone?
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Juan
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread jedi
Quoting John Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 funny you should type that i have the exact same drive dead on my
 table.  A friend asked if i could recover it, but its pretty much DOA.

 I have had alot of luck with seagates, they run cool and extremly
 quiet.  I have about 7 seagates in my home network non have gone belly
 up as of yet

Does anyone have any experience with their laptop drives?

I just upgraded my laptop with their 100G model (ST9100823A).

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RE: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Paul.Buchanan

 Personally, I'd go with seagate 7200.7 -- it's what I have running in
 my pundit, and has been going fine for almost a year now.  Seagate
 also has 
 a longer warranty than the other companies.
 
 -Chris
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Thanks for all the good information everyone!  I put in an order for a Seagate 
7200.7.  Hopefully it will treat me better.

Chris,  I'm assuming that you are not taking any extra measures for cooling 
this drive in your pundit?  I  did some sheet metal modifications to my Pundit 
drive bay so that I could add cooling.  Hopefully with this new drive I can 
remove the cooler, as it is the noisiest item in the case by far.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar

2004-12-14 Thread Scott Alfter
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 11:15:01AM -0600, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
 I thought this was funny:
 http://news.com.com/Noun+Verb+TiVo+says+its+neither/2100-1041_3-5488370.html
 
 TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb.  
 Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny.

Well, they do say that verbing weirds language... :-)

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Yan-Fa Li
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just had my second Western Digital Special Edition 200 GB drive die on me.  Since I'm using an ASUS Pundit, I figured heat was the culprit, so the second drive had a dual-fan cooler on it.  No such luck.  After about three months of use, performance suddenly degrades, and the journals begin to corrupt.  A few days later, I/O errors crop up, and the drive is pretty much useless.  

Are these drives just not up to the stress of a PVR?  I'm interested in hearing 
what kind of drives people have had good luck with, as I've about had it with 
these.  I'll get my third on warranty, but It won't be going back into a myth 
box.
Thanks,
Paul
Aside from manufacturing problems, heat seems to be the biggest issue. 
One of the reasons I really like the Myth design.  Split 
backend/frontend architecture.  My backend has a 120mm fan sitting 
infront of the drive cage with four drives.  My front end has a 5400RPM 
drive inside a noise insulator.  One day I intend to convert it to net boot.

Preference: Seagate (5 yr), Hitachi (3 yr), Maxtor/WD (1 yr)
I did manage to get a pair of Maxtor quickview (5400RPM) drives recently 
and so far so evil, but it's early days.  I have a stack of failed 
drives from 2001/2002 and they are from all manufacturers.  Ironically 
my Tivo has two maxtors in it and has been mucho reliable.

One thing you can do, once you have your new drive installed is monitor 
it's heat.  Smartmontools are your friend.  Most new drives have a temp 
sensor.  I like to try and keep my drives below 40C if I can.  Only 
during the summer is this a difficult goal.

Yan
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar

2004-12-14 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 11:32:55AM -0600, Scott Carr wrote:
  TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb.  
  Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny.
 I would think they would want the advertising.  Oh well...

Trademarks are a funny thing.

They *have* to take affirmative action to protect them, or they slip,
into the public domain.

Like Aspirin.

Or Cellophane.

So it's a fight that, as a corporation, you want to fight as hard as
possible... and lose.  You do, as a businessman, in general actually
want the mindshare that comes from being a semi-generic term for an
action.

But you want to have it because you're the primary one in the market
(like Google).  TiVo, on the other hand, are likely nervous.  And we
likely *are* on their radar.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar

2004-12-14 Thread Joel Anderson
 I thought this was funny:
 http://news.com.com/Noun+Verb+TiVo+says+its+neither/2100-1041_3-5488370.html
 
 TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb.
 Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny.

That's hilarious.

TiVo wants to keep its name from going the way of Xerox or Kleenex

Too late!  Lol!

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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar

2004-12-14 Thread Marc Nicholas

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Joel Anderson wrote:
That's hilarious.
TiVo wants to keep its name from going the way of Xerox or Kleenex
Too late!  Lol!
Yeah, lots of people 'copied' Xerox and Kleenex as 'blew it'! ;-)
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Re: [mythtv-users] pvr-350 tv-out hanging in live tv

2004-12-14 Thread Juan C. Gallardo
So, what wxactly did you do to solve the problem?
To the second question.
I am using Xorg, with ivtvdev driver from the ivtv-0.2.0-rc3
And I have DMA enable in both my DVD and my Harddisk
Juan
Egon Burgener wrote:
Hi 

I am using kernel 2.6.8-1 and I had pretty the same problem with the
ivtv-driver. But since I have patched my kernel to use software suspend
2 the tv-out has never been hanging again. The software suspend patch
breaks the ivtv code, so you have to adapt it (I had to change 2 lines
in the driver source code). 

Second problem:
Which Xserver do you use? 
I really recommend ivtvdev_drv_o. You will find it in the utils
directory of ivtv.
Do you have DMA enabled on your DVD-Drive?
Do you have DMA enabled on your Harddisk?

cheers
Egon
Am Di, 2004-12-14 um 14.03 schrieb Juan C. Gallardo:
 

Hello
I just manage to get the pvr-350 work over X. It looks great! and I will 
like to keep using it, but I am having two problems.
The first as says on the title. When I try to watch live tv it hangs, 
after a minute or something like that.
I have selected to use the pvr-350 in the tv setup.
My videos plays perfect with mplayer, from inside and outside of 
mythfrontend.

The second problem is that if I try to watch a DVD is vry slow. I am 
using xine to play DVDs. I am guessing that it has to be something about 
playing MPG movies over X with the ivtv driver. So is tehre a way to use 
xine to play dvd over X using the pvr-350 tv output?
I think I have read something about a special version of xine to use 
with the pvr-350. Is that what I should use? if so, where can I found it?

Of course, the first problem is the most important. I really want to use 
the pvr output, it looks s much better than my nvidia output, the 
colors are perfect.

Any idea, anyone?
Thanks in advance
Juan
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Steven Christall

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:53:36 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I just had my second Western Digital Special Edition 200 GB drive die on
 me.  Since I'm using an ASUS Pundit, I figured heat was the culprit, so
 the second drive had a dual-fan cooler on it.  No such luck.  After about
 three months of use, performance suddenly degrades, and the journals
 begin to corrupt.  A few days later, I/O errors crop up, and the drive is
 pretty much useless.  
 

I have 12x80GB Seagate Cudda IV's in an array running 24x7 for the last
2.5 years + 2x120GB Cudda V's 18 months old.  One 120GB has failed,
although I believe my flatmate dropped the PC during a move, and it
didn't boot again after this.

They are quiet, not the fastest, but I won't buy anything else for
myself.  At work have various arrays with 16x300GB PATA Maxtors (with
one failure in 16 months) and I just received another array with
14x250GB SATA Maxtors in it.  Also one 12x300GB WD (with 8MB cache, 3
year warrenty) no failures yet that gets the s**t kicked out of it every
day running for one year.

I have had a lot of problems with the glass platter IBM's from two years
ago  60GXPs from mem  won't touch IBM anymore.  Plus Seagate
have same 5 year warrenty on all of their drives now ... they have my
vote.

All of the new Dells we buy seem to have WD drives, two failures in 8
months for 20 PC's ... not so great

(Touching a lot of wood)
HTH's
Steve





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[mythtv-users] wndow mode to full screen key toggle?

2004-12-14 Thread Steve Berryman
Is there a key that can switch the screen from window mode to full
screen mode? if not is it possible? its a great feature in things like
mplayer to be able to work and watch tv but switch quickly to full
screen when you want.
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[mythtv-users] MediaMVP

2004-12-14 Thread Paul Miller

Is it possible to have MythTV's menus, etc. on the Hauppauge MediaMVP?  It's 
supposedly Linux based.  Are these devices any good?  How do they compare to 
a typical MythTV setup with a PVR-350, etc.?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Extending the change channel callout program?

2004-12-14 Thread nate s
If you have a use in mind you might go for it, otherwise, I don't see
any need for it.  If you change with up/down, you might be going
through channels you don't get, and I don't see any advantage over
switching by number anyways.

-Nate


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 Would it be worthwhile extending the change channel callout program so
 it can receive channel up and channel down commands?  Any other
 commands that might be useful?  My goal would be to improve the
 interactive response when using MythTV to control my Star Choice DBS
 receiver.
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] MediaMVP

2004-12-14 Thread David Shay
Check out http://mvpmc.sourceforge.net
At this point (and probably not ever...), it cannot run a full mythfrontend.
It has its own menu system that from a MythTV perspective can be used to
watch recordings, view the upcoming recordings schedule, and delete
recordings.  At this point it cannot schedule recordings and does not
read/honor the commercial skip points. Those features are under development,
as I understand it.  It also does not do any of the ancillary functions,
i.e. mythmusic, mythnews, etc.

If all you are looking for is a remote frontend for watching shows, it works
remarkably well, particularly given the price point.  Great TV-out quality,
IMHO.  Hard to beat for $79-$89, even with the current functionality as-is.

It doesn't compare to a standard setup with a PVR-350 since it cannot
record -- there is no disk drive or encoder, only an MPEG decoder.

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Subject: [mythtv-users] MediaMVP



 Is it possible to have MythTV's menus, etc. on the Hauppauge MediaMVP?
It's
 supposedly Linux based.  Are these devices any good?  How do they compare
to
 a typical MythTV setup with a PVR-350, etc.?







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RE: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar

2004-12-14 Thread Neil Davidson
It works both ways. Kodak used to have a slogan that was something like If
it's not an Eastman it's not a Kodak if they hadn't dropped it, everyone
would probably call a camera a kodak

Like in the UK you don't say you are going to vacuum your house (unless you
are trying to sound posh), you get the Hoover out, even it is made by
someone else. The exception to this is Dyson, people actually call it a
Dyson.

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 To: Discussion about mythtv
 Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar


 I would think they would want the advertising.  Oh well...

 Kevin Kuphal wrote:

  I thought this was funny:
 
 http://news.com.com/Noun+Verb+TiVo+says+its+neither/2100-1041_3-54
 88370.html
 
 
  TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb.
  Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny.
 
  Kevin
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] MediaMVP

2004-12-14 Thread Brad Templeton

Yeah, I love the idea of the mediaMVP, though there is another
alternative, if you have lots more time than money.

Namely, get an old PC, which you probably can get for free or very
cheap from your closet or your company's.   Perhaps a ghz level machine
with 256mb of memory.

Add a TV-out, xvideo capable card (Seen them for under $20.  Search
for tv-out in froogle.

Then make it a diskless frontend.   There are two ways to do this.
One is ethernet boot such as pxeboot, though older PCs may not have this.

The other is to boot off the existing otherwise useless hard drive (probably
just a few gb) and do all filesystems over NFS, thus spinning down the
hard drive after boot.


I've been playing with this a bit, it's a bit of slogging.  In fact, I
have an NFS filesystem linux but still having trouble getting X to start
up on it.  But others have done this in a lot of configurations.

Rumour is that the knoppmyth project is trying to do this as well.


However, this will take you more time than the $80 of the MVP is worth.
Of course you would have a fully functioning myth frontend (or backend
for that matter) with all the trimmings, and no hard drive noise or heat.


My current frontend has a noisy drive in it because I plan to get
this working and spin the drive down.

There are many howtos on diskless, here is a more recent one:

http://www.intra2net.com/opensource/diskless-howto/howto.html

My approach however was just to compile in the modules I need into
the kernel and not use the initrd.  That boots into console linux just
fine.
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar

2004-12-14 Thread Lane Schwartz
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:59:00 -, Neil Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Like in the UK you don't say you are going to vacuum your house (unless you
 are trying to sound posh), you get the Hoover out, even it is made by
 someone else. The exception to this is Dyson, people actually call it a
 Dyson.

I lived in England for a while (a year of undergrad in Nottingham, a
year of graduate school in Cambridge). Hoover was the one bit of
British English I just could never get used to.

I willingly added u to colour and favourite. I dropped the when
talking about someone who's in hospital. I can pull off a really
atrocious imitation of a BBC radio newscaster. I wrote cheques (not
checks!) with amounts like Five pounds only instead of Five pounds
and no/100.  I even learned to refer to sports teams as singular
entities (America have advanced to the second round of the World
Cup!). But I never could get over the use of Hoover to mean vacuum.

Cheers,
Lane :)

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[mythtv-users] FYI, steps to get X working on the PVR-350 card.

2004-12-14 Thread sschaefer1
I wrote up a page of notes, for my own future reference on how to get MythTV's 
frontend (requires X Windows) to appear on the Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350 card's 
television out port.

My setup works fine for me, but like I mention in the last two paragraphs there 
are some configuration changes I would like to discover or someone to enlighten 
me as to how to tweak it how I would like it.

http://www.schaefer.dhcp.biz/pvr350tvout.htm


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Re: [mythtv-users] EPIA-M Unichrome xvmc vld

2004-12-14 Thread Dirk Aust
I finally tried to use the cvs/unichrome driver and managed it to have it 
compiled with X.org release (6.8.1) sources, but when I start X with this 
driver all colours are wrong, switching back to the original via_drv.o the 
colours are ok again.

Anyone with the same problem?


Am Mittwoch, 8. Dezember 2004 16:32 schrieb Steven:
 Adam Felson wrote:
  unichrome is now part of Xorg.  I got it simply by building getting
  X/cvs from x.org.

 Does CVS xorg include the (recent) via unichrome driver and the xvmc
 libs as well?
 Won't there be a conflict with the drm kernel module included in the
 2.6.8.1-epia1 kernel patchset?

 Steven
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Re: [mythtv-users] Audio sync problems with exported Myth recordings - not with manual recordings

2004-12-14 Thread John Andersen
On Monday 13 December 2004 12:22, Lane Schwartz wrote:
 My goal is to archive my PVR-250 MPEG2 recordings to DVD. Setup is FC2.

 I've hit a big snag - when I export the recordings and cut the
 commercials with nuvexport (MPEG2-MPEG2), the audio on the exported
 recording is way out of sync. Note that when I play the original files
 in Myth or mplayer, the audio sync is just fine.

I've used nuvexport with some success, to convert to svcd and vcd.

Both work well, (although the transcode time was LONG), with svcd
looking very much better than vcd.  MY fairly new dvd player
(hardware set top box) stutters badly with svcd, and most windows
players won't play them either, but the work flawlessly xine and
mplayer.

Also some of the other formats nuvexport does work well too
and are much smaller. 
Everything seems to be in sync.

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Re: [mythtv-users] NEW - BIG PROBLEM! Watching LiveTV is very slow !!!!!

2004-12-14 Thread Scott Carr
Ryan A. Carris wrote:
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:10:41 -0800, Scott Alfter
 

I watch sports and news live; everything else is recorded.  It just
doesn't make sense to record the morning news, when I only watch 10
minutes of it before going to work.  And I really hate watching sports
delayed.  But, being able to pause and rewind is a feature I wouldn't
give up, no matter what or when I'm watching.
 

Have you tried executing the process as root so it can run at a higher 
slice?  Just a thought.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar

2004-12-14 Thread Gert van der Knokke
Lane Schwartz wrote:
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:59:00 -, Neil Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Like in the UK you don't say you are going to vacuum your house (unless you
are trying to sound posh), you get the Hoover out, even it is made by
someone else. The exception to this is Dyson, people actually call it a
Dyson.
   

 

Even worse, if you are going to 'vacuum' your house, how will you live 
in it ?
How do you seal the doors and windows to keep that vacuum in ? :-)

If you hear the Dutch word for Hoover/vacuum cleaner:  (translated) 
Dust-Sucker... Ah well..
But everybody calls it just that.. ('stofzuiger' that is...)

And for Dyson.. ahem.. Well it isn't a vacuum cleaner so why call it 
one... ;-)

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Cory Papenfuss
	I feel compelled to speak up on one more datapoint here.  I'm 
generally a big fan.  Recently there were some rebates on 120 and 160 GB 
Seagate Baracuda drives.  I got one of each, but the 160 is making a 
continuous, repeating beep-of-death.  Although the diag util says it's 
fine, the machine locks up when it does it.

	Just figured I'd share... need to get it replaced.  Other than 
that, I'd say that WD and Maxtor are the bottom-run IMO.  I don't know 
about Hitachi/IBM now (I got burned on three DeathStars a few years back). 
Indifferent on Samsung.

-Cory
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, nate s wrote:
Another vote for seagate.  I have a 200G 7200.7 (PATA version) that's
been running great for a while now.  It is almost silent, very fast
compared to the 60G maxtor that I had before it, and barely even gets
warm to the touch.
On a side note, I've been looking into getting another of the exact
same, to perhaps set up a raid array, and I've notived the price on
them has gone up since I first bought it.  I guess they've been
popular.
-Nate
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:18:14 -0800, Chris Petersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chris,  I'm assuming that you are not taking any extra measures for
cooling this drive in your pundit?  I  did some sheet metal
modifications to my Pundit drive bay so that I could add cooling.
Hopefully with this new drive I can remove the cooler, as it is the
noisiest item in the case by far.
Nope, nothing special.  I've even lately taken to keeping my pundit in a
cabinet (granted, big hole cut out of the back of it).
I do have an optical drive in there, but it's unplugged, so it won't
generate any heat like it might if it was plugged in.
-Chris
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2004-12-14 Thread Neil Davidson


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[mythtv-users] Re: MediaMVP

2004-12-14 Thread Romain Kang
Last I heard, only MPEG-2 playback worked.  If you transcoded
to MPEG-4 to save space, too bad.  Has this changed?

Romain
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[mythtv-users] Using v4lctl to optimise recording quality

2004-12-14 Thread Phill Edwards
I read on http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2004-March/037866.html 
that it's a good idea to use v4lctl -c /dev/video0 setattr 'chroma agc' on 
to really improve colour quality.

I can run this no problem from the command line as root, but when it runs 
from rc.local at boot up it segmentation faults. Any suggestions on how I 
can work around this?

Also, do people generally agree that it's a good idea to use this or should 
I not really bother?

Finally, when I run v4lctl -c /dev/video0 list I've noticed that the audio 
mode is mono. Does this mean my recordings will all be in mono. Should I use 
v4lctl to support stereo recordings? I've tried to do this but it doesn't 
seem to change the setting from mono to stereo.

Regards,
Phill

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Brian May
 Paul ==   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paul I just had my second Western Digital Special Edition 200 GB
Paul drive die on me.  Since I'm using an ASUS Pundit, I figured
Paul heat was the culprit, so the second drive had a dual-fan
Paul cooler on it.  No such luck.  After about three months of
Paul use, performance suddenly degrades, and the journals begin
Paul to corrupt.  A few days later, I/O errors crop up, and the
Paul drive is pretty much useless.  Are these drives just not up
Paul to the stress of a PVR?  I'm interested in hearing what kind
Paul of drives people have had good luck with, as I've about had
Paul it with these.  I'll get my third on warranty, but It won't
Paul be going back into a myth box.

In the past I have had lots of problems with hard disks on my 24x7
Linux server. Hard disks (from all major brands) were dieing between 3
months and 13 months (one month after warranty).

I ended up paying more for 4 hard disks (WD) with 3 year warranty. The
hard disks in my Linux server are still working perfectly - I am a bit
suspicious of the hard disks in my mythtv system (once I tried to boot
up and one hard disk didn't come online - I took the computer apart,
pulled the IDE connector out, and put everything back together and it
suddenly started working again... However, I sometimes get bad looking
hard disk error messages on boot up when I look...)
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[mythtv-users] not registered v4l2

2004-12-14 Thread bic1
When I do a 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] sbickfor]# /bin/dmesg |grep ivtv

ivtv:  START INIT IVTV 
ivtv: version 0.1.10 (0.1.10-48.4_pre2_ck100zz.rhfc2.at) loading
ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.9-1.6_FC2 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-3.3
ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info
ivtv: between the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines when
ivtv: mailing the ivtv-devel mailinglist.
ivtv: Autodetected WinTV PVR 350 card
ivtv: Found an iTVC15 based chip
ivtv: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
ivtv: pci: VIA detected device: 0x0305 vendor: 0x1106
ivtv: i2c attach [client=Hauppauge IR,ok]
ivtv: i2c attach [client=tveeprom[0],ok]
ivtv: Tuner Type 47, Tuner formats 0x1000, Radio: yes, Model 0x00ad2598, 
Rev ision 0x0001
ivtv: NTSC tuner detected
ivtv: Radio detected
tuner: chip found at addr 0xc2 i2c-bus ivtv i2c driver #0
ivtv: i2c attach [client=(tuner unset),ok]
saa7115: starting probe for adapter ivtv i2c driver #0 (0x10005)
ivtv: i2c attach [client=saa7115[0],ok]
ivtv: i2c attach [client=saa7127[0],ok]
ivtv: i2c attach [client=MSP3448W-A2,ok]
ivtv: Encoder revision: 0x02040024
ivtv: Decoder revision: 0x02020023
ivtv: Configuring WinTV PVR 350 card with 9 streams
ivtv: Create DMA stream 0 using 128 buffers of size 32768
ivtv: Create DMA stream 1 using 128 buffers of size 32768
ivtv: Create stream 2 using 128 buffers of size 52224
ivtv: Create DMA stream 3 using 128 buffers of size 32768
ivtv: Create stream 4
ivtv: Create DMA stream 5 using 16 buffers of size 32768
ivtv: Create stream 6 using 128 buffers of size 4096
ivtv: Create stream 7
ivtv: Create DMA stream 8 using 16 buffers of size 32768
ivtv: Setting Tuner 47
tuner: type set to 47 (LG NTSC (TAPE series)) by ivtv i2c driver #0
ivtv: Setting audio matrix to input 3, output 1
ivtv: Switching standard to NTSC.
ivtv: Initialized WinTV PVR 350, card #0
ivtv:   END INIT IVTV  
ivtv-osd: Framebuffer module loaded (attached to ivtv card id 0)
ivtv-osd: Framebuffer is at decoder-relative address 0x0051 and has 1704960 
bytes.
ivtv-osd: screen coords: [0 0] - [720 480]
ivtv-osd: original global alpha = 208
ivtv-osd: current OSD state = 39
ivtv-osd: new global alpha = 208 (1 255 0)
ivtv-osd: Good video_base is inside valid allocated space.
ivtv-osd: framebuffer at 0xd951, mapped to 0x18c0, size 1350k
ivtv-osd: mode is 720x480x32, linelength=2880
ivtv-osd: fb0: iTVC15 TV out frame buffer device


Per Wilsonet.com I should see v4l2 registered.  Obviously this isn't in there.

And now, when I do this, I get multiple fb0s:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] sbickfor]# cat /var/log/messages |grep iTVC15 TV out
Dec 13 19:40:32 amd800 kernel: ivtv-osd: fb0: iTVC15 TV out frame buffer device
Dec 13 20:11:32 amd800 kernel: ivtv-osd: fb0: iTVC15 TV out frame buffer device
Dec 14 18:39:27 amd800 kernel: ivtv-osd: fb0: iTVC15 TV out frame buffer device

Then trying to do a:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] sbickfor]# /usr/bin/ivtvctl -u 0x3000
Failed to open /dev/video0: Cannot allocate memory

then when I do 

ivtvctl: page allocation failure. order:5, mode:0xd0
simplified
 [16a99e14] ivtv_init_buffer+0x45/0xa0 [ivtv]
 [16a99e86] ivtv_init_queue_nolock+0x17/0x63 [ivtv]
 [16a99ef4] ivtv_init_queues_nolock+0x22/0x3b [ivtv]
 [16a9e090] ivtv_stream_alloc+0x74/0xaa [ivtv]
 [16a9d810] ivtv_v4l2_open+0x2e7/0x3d8 [ivtv]
ivtv: No memory on buffer alloc!
ivtv: Buffer alloc failed!

Using FC2 and wilsonet.com guide.

Any ideas?



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RE: [mythtv-users] hauppauge 350 tvout no go!

2004-12-14 Thread Dave Ashmore
John Harvey wrote:
These config  log files now have nothing about loading ivtv drivers in
them.
There was a post a little while ago about getting X to work on the 350. It
might be worth looking over that and seeing if there is something that you
have missed or follow that guide and see where you get to.
If it really says that it cant open /dev/fb0 then it sounds like you don't
have ivtv-fb module loaded.
You can check this with lsmod.
Also try running 

ivtvfbctl /dev/fb0 -prepframe
and see if you get a constantly changing pattern on the tv out. At least
this will prove the driver etc. are loaded and working.
John
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Ashmore
Sent: 14 December 2004 22:15
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] hauppauge 350 tvout no go!
David Erickson wrote:
   

Dave,
I had some significant problems getting it to work myself but i am still
using Redhat 9.  I can tell you that I know several people on here have
gotten it to work on FC3.  Unfortunately the X windows version that Red
Hat 9 and FC3 uses are different so I can't help other than to suggest
 

you
   

follow Jarod's website's instruction very clearly as I have never had a
problem when I followed that.  I'll be updating to FC3 after the
 

holiday's
   

but hopefully you'll get around this stump before then.
Dave

 

Sorry for the following frustration but I have mythtv working in FC3 and
all is well recording.
Ok here goes my rant.
http://www.hauppauge.com/html/wintvpvr350_datasheet.htm
I would suggest users just buy the 250 as the X tvout does not seem to
work for me.
If I go to myth setup/utilitiesplayback use pvr-350 out.
I can in fact use the watch tv or playback a video and it does work with
poor color but I cannot ween myself from using a monitor. I want/need
pvr-350 tvout to display the X desktop. If I did not in fact have the
monitor plugged in I would not be able to use the mythfrontend menu.
lspci reports:
01:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15
MPEG-2 Enc
oder (rev 01)
cat /var/log/messages |grep iTVC15 TV out
Reports:
Dec 13 20:38:34 mythbox kernel: ivtv-osd: fb0: iTVC15 TV out frame
buffer device
SO the way I see it I can't get this to work.
SO here is what I'm thinking.
One of the following:
Buy another graphics card and torture myself to possibly getting it to
work to display X desktop with tvout.
Getting an xbox and try to use it as a frontend.
Continue to try to get X desktop to display on the pvr-350 tvout.
Or could I possibly get a product like this display from vga to
component video and leave well enough alone?
Specifications for HD15 (VGA) Male to RCA x 3 Male, D / Shield, (VGA to
Component Video), 6 ft Part Number 10H1-50106
http://www.national-tech.com/specs/10h2-50106.htm
(I'm thinking this looks like the easiest way to go if it would in fact
work)
Does anyone have the pvr-350 displaying X desktop?
If so how?
Please advise.
Regards
Dave Ashmore
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Ok here is my files but I edited them back to the original state.
I know when it locks up the cpu there is something on the screen that
says /dev/fb0 no such device.
I would assume its in the log file but this stuff is way over my head
the troubleshooting aspect.
My files are posted here:
http://djash.com/pvr350
If there is anything else we need to troubleshoot please let me know.
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Based on the output from lspci -a what should the bus id be for my 
xorg.conf file be?
/sbin/lspci -v
01:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 
MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
   Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. WinTV PVR-350
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
   Memory at e800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
   Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

/bin/dmesg |grep Initialized
ivtv: Initialized WinTV PVR 350, card #0
[drm] Initialized i915 1.1.0 20040405 on minor 0:
cat /var/log/messages |grep iTVC15 TV out
Dec 13 20:38:34 mythbox kernel: ivtv-osd: fb0: iTVC15 TV out frame 
buffer device
Dec 14 18:28:11 mythbox kernel: ivtv-osd: fb0: iTVC15 TV out frame 
buffer device

BusID 0:1x9:0?
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[mythtv-users] Re: Audio sync problems with exported Myth recordings - not with manual recordings

2004-12-14 Thread Gavin Hurlbut
Lane Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone with a PVR-250 have exporting to DVD working successfully
 using MPEG2-MPEG2 cutting?

Yes.  I have that working fine here.  Mind you, I wrote the mpeg2cut script,
so it shouldn't be a surprise that it works for me.

It sounds like maybe you should take a good look at the version of avidemux
you are using.  It's likely the issue here.

Anyways, I got TV to watch.

Ciao
Gavin
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Re: [mythtv-users] Very slight jitter on high power machine

2004-12-14 Thread Joe Barnhart

--- Henk Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is probably some driver problem. Running as
 root MythTV request a couple 
 of extra things (like vsync updates). What card do
 you use, and what version 
 is the driver?

I'm using an nVidia 5200Fx card and the 6111 driver. 
Pretty boring, eh?  I've done this on one Athlon and
one P4 system so far, both on KnoppMyth R4V5 and both
have the instant hang feature with SUID root.  Maybe
I'll try Doug's suggestion and actually contribute
some information instead of wailing like a baby



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Re: [mythtv-users] Very slight jitter on high power machine

2004-12-14 Thread Joe Barnhart

--- Doug Larrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You might also check that your video refresh rate is
 very close to 59.94 
 (60 * 1000/1001) Hz (for US).  If it's not, Myth
 will have to 
 periodically extend or skip a frame to keep in sync.

I'm using some of Brandon Beattie's modelines, which
work perfectly on my system.  I have a CRT based RPTV
with VGA input locked to 1080i.  I can feed it either
59.94 or 60 Hz.

http://www.linuxis.us/linux/media/howto/linux-htpc/video_card_configuration.html

 If you're not running AC3 passthrough, you can
 instead try turning on 
 use video as timebase, which will warp the audio
 instead of the video. 

No can do.  I'm a dedicated AC3 passthrough kinda guy.

 One other thing to check... are some shows 29.97 /
 59.94 Hz and some 
 shows 30/60 Hz?  

I have not seen that.  All are 59.94 that I've
noticed.  Wish it were easier to get debug information
from mythfrontend. 



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[mythtv-users] Network Connection and Other Issues

2004-12-14 Thread Brian May
Hello,

Last night I encountered two problems. Mythtv wants me to believe that
they were a coincidence, but I want a second opinion if they are
coincidence or not.


Issue 1. My network card on my mythtv backend server is dodgy, because
the network cable doesn't lock into place. This is annoying because
(obviously) the network goes down. It also means that the network
adaptor looses its DHCP assigned IP address, which means the front end
running on the same box no longer can talk to the backend.

I considered trying to fix this so the frontend uses localhost
127.0.0.1 (and only on the backend computer) and will work even if the
network goes down, but this seems to provide a convenient way of
realizing that a problem exists...

This is under the assumption that the backend will continue recording
OK (note: mysql database is set up using localhost).


Issue 2. Last night at 2330, my network went down due to the plug
coming out a fraction. After that, mythtv was no longer able record a
TV show at  (they ended up being empty files). The log files
reported errors on my DVB card.

Is this a coincidence? Or was it perhaps due to the fact the antenna
connection fell out of the DVB card, and somehow ended up being
plugged into the video connection of my other TV card...

Oh well, forget my ramblings, I think I just worked out this problem
too ;-). Now to find the culprit who plugged the plug in the wrong
spot...


Anyway, just some issues to think about (especially point #1) when
setting up a mythtv system that may not be immediately obvious. Point
#1 may be important for some, if for example the network goes down for
any reason or the DHCP server goes down while watching TV...

I don't consider these issues to be mythtv's fault (although it would
be nice if it could detect no DVB signal as an error and display some
sort of notification to the user instead of continuously trying to
record the show...).

Also, just letting you all know how much I like wires and plugs ;-).
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Re: [mythtv-users] Extending the change channel callout program?

2004-12-14 Thread Scott Alfter
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 11:43:26AM -0800, nate s top-posted (grr):
 On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 19:49:05 -0500, Mike Frisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Would it be worthwhile extending the change channel callout program so
  it can receive channel up and channel down commands?  Any other
  commands that might be useful?  My goal would be to improve the
  interactive response when using MythTV to control my Star Choice DBS
  receiver.

 If you have a use in mind you might go for it, otherwise, I don't see
 any need for it.  If you change with up/down, you might be going
 through channels you don't get, and I don't see any advantage over
 switching by number anyways.

There might be extra keys you can press (or codes for lircd to send) to
improve the speed at which your cable box or satellite receiver changes
channels.  With the Scientific- Atlanta Explorer 2100 I'm using, there are
three ways you can go straight to a channel:

1) Enter the digits.  This is slowest, as the OSD will pop up, wait a couple
   or three seconds before it figures you've finished entering digits,
   change the channel, and keep the OSD up for a couple of seconds after
   changing the channel.
2) Enter the digits, then press SELECT.  This trims off the delay before the
   channel change takes effect.
3) Enter the digits, then press SELECT, then press C.  This is fastest.  In
   addition to getting rid of the delay before the channel change, it gets
   rid of the OSD after the channel change.  There might still be a delay
   before video from the new channel actually shows up, but there's an 
   even bigger delay before an ivtv tuner actually starts recording.  

At this point, my MythTV box changes channels on the cable box faster than
my TiVo did.  TiVo recordings would show a second of the previous channel
followed by the channel-change OSD.  MythTV recordings don't exhibit this
behavior.

There might be something similar that you can do with other cable boxes or
satellite receivers that will accomplish a similar speedup.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Nonlinear MPEG2 editor that doesn't suck?

2004-12-14 Thread Cory Papenfuss
	Has anyone found such a beast?  I've got an PVR-250 captured bunch of 
old 8mm home video footage that I'm trying to put together into a DVD. I'm 
trying to cut up a couple of 4GB 704x480 streams into a few dozen clips.  I'd 
like to paste them together into a DVD with 1 chapter per clip.  Issues 
include:

	Pseudo-replying to myself.  I'm having some sync issues with some 
of these tape transfers and I've developed a theory.  Perhaps someone who 
is more familiar with the MPEG2 streaming can help.

	I've been using avidemux in the past to recrunch pvr-250 recorded 
streams onto DVD.  Not too much difficulty, and it appears that I always 
get a 66ms difference between audio and video.  With this tape transfer, 
however, it appears that the A/V sync amount changes as the tape recording 
goes on.  Maybe because the pvr-250 had to do weird things because the VCR 
that was playing the recording did odd things at the cut?

	Anyway, it appears that a signifcant cleanup can be done with the 
dvb-mplex and/or replex utility on the raw IVTV stream.  It generates a 
number of PTS-related errors such as:

video DTS inconsistent:  0:02:42.144  0:02:42.144  0:02:42.061  0:02:41.728 
diff:  0:00:00.082
video PTS inconsistent:  0:02:42.178  0:02:42.178  0:02:42.095  0:02:41.761  
diff:  0:00:00.083
video PTS inconsistent:  0:02:42.211  0:02:42.211  0:02:42.128  0:02:41.794  
diff:  0:00:00.082
video PTS inconsistent:  0:02:42.345  0:02:42.345  0:02:42.262  0:02:41.928  
diff:  0:00:00.082
video DTS inconsistent:  0:02:42.244  0:02:42.244  0:02:42.162  0:02:41.828 
diff:  0:00:00.082
	So the question is this:  Does the ivtv driver output clean MPEG2 
that's consistent from end to end, or does it have glitches in it?  It 
would appear to be the latter, and the PTS can change mid-stream and goof 
up post-processing.

Food for thought.
-Cory
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[mythtv-users] Firewire Drives--or What are these things?

2004-12-14 Thread Bearcat M. Sandor
Folks,

While dreaming up a htpc box, and looking through my Sweet Water catalog  I 
came across these drives:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/GT308/


These are said to be quiet firewire drives.  I thought firewire was just an 
interface. Is there any such beast as a firewire drive or are they just scsi 
drives in a firewire chassis?

Also, these things are damn expensive at $440 for 200 gb.

What makes these worth it?

Bearcat M. Sandor
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Re: [mythtv-users] not registered v4l2

2004-12-14 Thread bic1

I believe there was a symlink /dev/fb - /dev/fb0 and also reinstalled firmware 
from ivtv wiki.


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Re: [mythtv-users] NEW - BIG PROBLEM! Watching LiveTV is very slow !!!!!

2004-12-14 Thread Bruce Markey
Ryan A. Carris wrote:
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:10:41 -0800, Scott Alfter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why are you still watching live TV?  The whole idea behind a PVR (whether
it's MythTV, TiVo, or something else) is that you let it record stuff and
watch it at your convenience.  You don't have to be a slave to the network
scheduling goons anymore.

I watch sports and news live;
I always record sports and news. There are no better examples
of the benefits of recording with a DVR where you can watch
a recording in progress and simply delete when you are done.
 everything else is recorded.  It just
doesn't make sense to record the morning news, when I only watch 10
minutes of it before going to work.
It doesn't make sense to be stuck in the ringbuffer and limited
by the time you get around to starting the session. If you record
a news show that start before you wake up, you can see the top
stories and fast forward to the stories that interest you without
having to wait for them to be broadcast. This is a much better
use of your 10 minutes.
  And I really hate watching sports
delayed.  But, being able to pause and rewind is a feature I wouldn't
give up, no matter what or when I'm watching.
Even if you wanted to watch near real time, whatever that means
or if it really mattered, you're still better off watching the
recorded file in progress than relying on the ringbuffer. If
you exit or change channels or the frontend hangs or you want to
look at your schedule or mark a show to record that you saw in a
promo or anything, you lose the recorded buffer. Plus you have no
option to watch it later or replay highlights the next day. With
a recording you can come and go as you please. I despise the idea
of being stuck in a ringbuffer for three hours. I deliberately
watch sports at least 20 minutes behind so I can skip commercials,
timeouts, dead ball, whatever. I don't have to waste as much of
my time as they have to waste during the game. I can watch all
of Tiger Woods' shots in less than a quarter of the time they
take to broadcast a round of golf.
Now, can we get off this common reply.  This must have been discussed
to death in a thread last month.
And the month before and last year and so on. Your opinion is not
the last word on the subject but a common mis-conception many
people have early in the DVR learning curve. You would not want
to record daily news and every sports event with a VCR because
you would need to load a blank tape and set a timer and wait
until the broadcast is over before rewinding the tape and watching
from the beginning. None if these are an issue with a DVR. You
mark something to record, watch it, or not, at your convenience
and delete it. Most people want to hang on to their old habits and
believe they are supposed to channel surf and watch things while
they are being broadcast and only a hand full of shows 'merit'
being recorded. For most people there are a series of revelation
along the way before they realize that they can record anything
they want to see and always have a good selection of things to
watch and have all the benefit of the recorded file. If they do
go channel surfing in the disposable buffer and find something
worth watching to the end, record that too.
News and sports are not examples of things you have to watch in the
A/V test mode temporary buffer (live TV) but are more like the best
examples of how you can get to most out of your TV time by taking
advantage of DVR capabilities.
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[mythtv-users] Building a myth box, wanna look over my components?

2004-12-14 Thread Derek Gathright
Case: Cooler Master Cavalier 2 Black ATX Desktop Case With Analog Dial
 300W Power Supply,
$105

Motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe nForce2 Ultra 400
(Soundstorm right?)
$89

Video: Rosewill nVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Video Card
$52.50

Processor:  AMD Mobile Athlon XP 2600+
$95

Ram:  1x512 Mushkin basic green 2700

Tuner:  PVR250MCE (Where should I buy this from?  Newegg and ZZF are
out.  And isn't there problems with some newer retail versions?). 
Thinking about a PVR500MCE.  How's the support under myth? (I'll
probably go look this up myself)

Hard Drive - ~200-250 gb (I find one on rebate)

Total = ~$600

Not a complete Myth noob.  Got an HD3000 box working last month, but
the NTSC sucked so bad I ditched that idea until I research what ATSC
signals I can get either OTA or unencrypted cable.  So anyways... for
a remote, I'll use either a Remote Wonder I or II that I have lying
around.

Anyone have any reccomendations on hardware?  A64 processors are
almost so cheap right now I might go with one of those, throw a 2800+
in there and it would add on about $30, but I'd lose Soundstorm, but
then again... I'd gain 64 support for future use.

Any tips would be helpful.  Thanks.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire Drives--or What are these things?

2004-12-14 Thread Chuck Rice
At 5:40 PM -0700 12/14/04, Bearcat M. Sandor wrote:
Folks,
While dreaming up a htpc box, and looking through my Sweet Water catalog  I
came across these drives:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/GT308/
These are said to be quiet firewire drives.  I thought firewire was just an
interface. Is there any such beast as a firewire drive or are they just scsi
drives in a firewire chassis?
Also, these things are damn expensive at $440 for 200 gb.
What makes these worth it?
I use something like these, though a bit more expensive. I use the 8 
bay version in this picture:

   http://www.firewiremax.com/fire-wire-1394-ilink/lcdreen.html
 The advantage is that you can chain a lot of them together. With two 
of these FireWire cases, I have room for 16 drives, though I have 
only filled in 10 slots so far. I started using 250 GB drives and 
have now started to buy 300 to 400 GB drives, so that gives me room 
for over 4 TB of video, or about 600 DVDs. Each drive has its own 
temperature controlled fan and the blue LED screen tells you drive 
temp and fan speed. Besides they look really cool for a Home Theater! 
:) I back it up with a Quantum SDLT320 tape drive.

I like to collect old black and white movies but I hate the hassle of 
DVDs, so as I buy them, I load them into the MovieDatabase. I am 
hoping that Myth will give me a better way to catalog them.

FireWire is just an interface, but but the case is built with 
FireWire controllers. You plug IDE drives into the controller. The 
bays are also swappable, so you can pull a failing drive, replace it, 
and restore from backup. they are also RAIDible if I can Tivo RAID 
into a Verb. -Chuck-

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Re: [mythtv-users] Thoughts on CD ripping

2004-12-14 Thread Paul Miller

I would really like to see this too...

On Tuesday 14 December 2004 9:50 am, Andrew Wilson wrote:
 Here's what I'm trying to do, has anyone tried this before?


 When I put a CD into the drive, I want the system to immediately
 start playing it just as a proper CD player would, while at the
 same time ripping it to disk so you don't need to put the CD in
 again.

 - Can myth do this? Can any other music programs do this?

 I'm using an EPIA M10k which doesn't have enough oomph to encode to
 mp3 in a reasonable timeframe, looking at about 30 mins for a CD,
 which is too long.

 However, I've got a nice fast CD rom, which in theory should be
 able to copy a music CD to disk in a couple of minutes or so.

 So, how about this for an idea:
 - Read the CD into a (ISO?) file, and start playing the audio
 immediately from the file rather than off the CD.
 - Eject the CD as soon as the disk has been read, but continue to
 play audio out of the ISO image
 - Rip the ISO to mp3/ogg/whatever in your own time, and delete the
 ISO once it's completed.

 Is this feasible? Where would I start?

 Andrew
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Re: [mythtv-users] Thoughts on CD ripping

2004-12-14 Thread David Whyte
I heard a rumour somewhere that something similar is currently in
development.  Well, actually, I think what is being done, is the
ripping and the encoding are being seperated so you don't have to wait
for 30mins to eject the CD.

I don't think the automated stuff is being done

HTH's
Whytey


On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:28:49 -0600, Paul Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I would really like to see this too...
 
 On Tuesday 14 December 2004 9:50 am, Andrew Wilson wrote:
  Here's what I'm trying to do, has anyone tried this before?
 
 
  When I put a CD into the drive, I want the system to immediately
  start playing it just as a proper CD player would, while at the
  same time ripping it to disk so you don't need to put the CD in
  again.
 
  - Can myth do this? Can any other music programs do this?
 
  I'm using an EPIA M10k which doesn't have enough oomph to encode to
  mp3 in a reasonable timeframe, looking at about 30 mins for a CD,
  which is too long.
 
  However, I've got a nice fast CD rom, which in theory should be
  able to copy a music CD to disk in a couple of minutes or so.
 
  So, how about this for an idea:
  - Read the CD into a (ISO?) file, and start playing the audio
  immediately from the file rather than off the CD.
  - Eject the CD as soon as the disk has been read, but continue to
  play audio out of the ISO image
  - Rip the ISO to mp3/ogg/whatever in your own time, and delete the
  ISO once it's completed.
 
  Is this feasible? Where would I start?
 
  Andrew
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Re: [mythtv-users] MediaMVP

2004-12-14 Thread James Pifer
On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 14:48, David Shay wrote:
 Check out http://mvpmc.sourceforge.net
 At this point (and probably not ever...), it cannot run a full mythfrontend.
 It has its own menu system that from a MythTV perspective can be used to
 watch recordings, view the upcoming recordings schedule, and delete
 recordings.  At this point it cannot schedule recordings and does not
 read/honor the commercial skip points. Those features are under development,
 as I understand it.  It also does not do any of the ancillary functions,
 i.e. mythmusic, mythnews, etc.
 
 If all you are looking for is a remote frontend for watching shows, it works
 remarkably well, particularly given the price point.  Great TV-out quality,
 IMHO.  Hard to beat for $79-$89, even with the current functionality as-is.
 
 It doesn't compare to a standard setup with a PVR-350 since it cannot
 record -- there is no disk drive or encoder, only an MPEG decoder.
 

I'm trying to figure out how have more frontends as well. I'm seriously
considering MediaMVP since it almost does what I want. Watching recorded
shows is primary, but I'd like to also use mythtvideo, or equivalent
functionality, for playing mpeg2 files. 

I've thought about setting up some more linux machines running the
frontend, but then you have to deal with TVOut and remote control. If
those were a bit easier I'd probably go that route. 

Right now I'm hoping to get more time soon and maybe contribute to the
MediaMVP project, but I fear my programming skills will not be adequate.
Guess I'll find out.

James

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[mythtv-users] Re: Remote backend probs..

2004-12-14 Thread Joakim Kolsjö
ok... i've fixed some of the problems by using the local hd to store
the data, and reducing the quaility of sound encoding still some
problems tough, any preformance tips?


On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 03:14:15 +0100, Joakim Kolsjö [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
 
 First i had both backend and frontend on this computer. Now i've put
 the backend on a P3-600. I use an pvr-250 to get the video input.
 
 When i play old recodings (done when both backend and frontend was on
 this comp) they play just fine streaming over the network but when i
 watch new recodings they have choppy video and sound and play seem to
 play slightly faster than normal.
 
 Ok... what about the stream then?
 
 Well... if i do dd if=/dev/video0 of=somefile.mpg before trying to
 watch with mythtv i get perfect video and sound, in sync, everything
 as it should be and after i get good video and sound, but it plays
 much faster than usual.

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Re: [mythtv-users] PChdtv.com hacked

2004-12-14 Thread Dave
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:34:44 -0500, Tom E. Craddock, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey
 
 Went to the main site, all it said was Simiens Crew, some googling
 shows that they are some hackers who deface sites, anyone know the email
 addy of the site maintainer, in case they dont know.
 
 Tom E. Craddock, Jr.
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Yeah, I just noticed that too.  I sent an email just in case they aren't aware.

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[mythtv-users] Getting rid of the console framebuffer in FC 3?

2004-12-14 Thread David Smith
Hello All,
I'm following Jarod's guide (much appreciation Jarod).
I'm stuck trying to get ivtv-fb to load properly.
Can't load ivtv-fb from the console. Receive a Kernel Oops if I do. This 
has been reported by others in Mythtv and Ivtv archives.
Loads fine from within X but the PC hangs if I try to switch back to the 
console with it loaded.

Someone in the Ivtv-devel list reported success compiling the kernel 
without console framebuffer support.

I'd like to be able to recompile the stock 2.6.9-681_FC3 kernel and still 
be able use the packaged kernel modules.
Is this possible and/or wise? or would I be better off trying FC 2?

Definitely, appreciate any thoughts.
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Re: [ivtv-devel] Re: [mythtv-users] Nonlinear MPEG2 editor that doesn't suck?

2004-12-14 Thread Leo Weppelman
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 07:50:27PM -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:

   I've been using avidemux in the past to recrunch pvr-250 recorded 
 streams onto DVD.  Not too much difficulty, and it appears that I always 
 get a 66ms difference between audio and video.  With this tape transfer, 
 however, it appears that the A/V sync amount changes as the tape recording 
 goes on.  Maybe because the pvr-250 had to do weird things because the VCR 
 that was playing the recording did odd things at the cut?
 
   Anyway, it appears that a signifcant cleanup can be done with the 
 dvb-mplex and/or replex utility on the raw IVTV stream.  It generates a 
 number of PTS-related errors such as:


I have this too! I noticed that playing the stream with mplayer had no
problems. Doing something like:
   mencoder nuv -oac copy -ovc copy -o nuv.out

rebuild the B-frames in avidemux now and all is fine


I think that mencoder complains about duplicate frames or soemthing like
that (I don't have a log at the moment).

Leo.
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[mythtv-users] My last few steps to FC3 success :)

2004-12-14 Thread Chris Lynch
First off, thanks to everyone who has given great information to get me
going on this.  My first box was a KnoppMyth box that worked well, but alas,
suffered a sad HD crash and I decided to rebuild using FC3 and Jarod's guide
(which is great, many thanks).

But I've run into a few problems and have a few questions surrounding them:
- In Jarod's guide, it's mentioned that to reactivate nvidia-settings, you
should add...
nvidia-settings --load-config-only 
. /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
  ...to your ~/.xinitrc file.  I've got that in there for the mythtv user,
but my overscan settings are not being reapplied when I reboot the box.  Any
ideas what I may be missing?  Is it possible I'm setting conflicting
settings elsewhere?

- If a restart the box and go to Live TV, I cannot change channels.  The OSD
shows up totally blank and it pauses for a moment and then stays on the same
channel.  Now, if I close out of live TV, then bring up a terminal and do a
/sbin/service mythbackend restart as root, all is well.  My channels then
show in the OSD and I can change channels without issue.  This seems like I
may have some sort of timing issue problem as to when the backend is
starting up since it does work if I restart the backend?

- This last one is more of a guess, but it would appear that my box hard
crashes if I'm watching live tv and a show to record comes on.  Sometimes my
wife will leave MythTV on watching live TV and turn off the TV and I'll come
back to find it locked up and it's always after a show to record has come
on.  It seems to time to when a show is getting queued up to record.  As a
side note, I've turned off commercial detection.

It is an awesome piece of software and I'm hoping I can get these last
nagging kinks out!  Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

Chris


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Re: [mythtv-users] Very slight jitter on high power machine

2004-12-14 Thread Doug Larrick
Joe Barnhart wrote:
--- Brad Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

By jitter I refer to what appear to be dropped
frames, slight skips in
smooth motion during periods of high motion.   Not
the Sound is freaking
out constant jitter or actual slow playback.

I've noticed this too, and I describe it almost as
cogging because the hiccup is very regular.  For
example when a camera pans across a scene I see smooth
panning interrupted by regular jerks.  
You might also check that your video refresh rate is very close to 59.94 
(60 * 1000/1001) Hz (for US).  If it's not, Myth will have to 
periodically extend or skip a frame to keep in sync.

If you're not running AC3 passthrough, you can instead try turning on 
use video as timebase, which will warp the audio instead of the video. 
 I am not sure if this was changed to use the new libmythsoundtouch 
stuff, or if it still audibly speeds up/slows down the audio.

One other thing to check... are some shows 29.97 / 59.94 Hz and some 
shows 30/60 Hz?  I've read that networks plan to transition to 30/60 Hz 
once the analog NTSC stations are off the air; maybe some shows are 
being produced that way now?  If so, Myth needs a way to select a video 
mode with the proper refresh rate added to its capability to pick one 
with the proper resolution.

-Doug


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Re: [mythtv-users] Remote Control Key Press Repeats

2004-12-14 Thread Kayne
On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 13:35, Ryan A. Carris wrote:

 I upgraded several things at once, Myth, Distro, KDE, ect. I know that
 this is probably a very rare setup, but I'm hoping someone can point
 me in the right direction to look.
 
 thanks,

Just a thought popped into my head, I think KDE has a setting for
sticky keys, although I never use it.  You might want to investigate
that.

Kayne

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Jesse Perkins
I am a Maxtor fan- but that experience is limited to my 3 computers at home.


On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:09:34 -0400, Mark J. Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On December 14, 2004 09:53 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I just had my second Western Digital Special Edition 200 GB drive die on
  me.  Since I'm using an ASUS Pundit, I figured heat was the culprit, so the
  second drive had a dual-fan cooler on it.  No such luck.  After about three
  months of use, performance suddenly degrades, and the journals begin to
  corrupt.  A few days later, I/O errors crop up, and the drive is pretty
  much useless.
 
  Are these drives just not up to the stress of a PVR?  I'm interested in
  hearing what kind of drives people have had good luck with, as I've about
  had it with these.  I'll get my third on warranty, but It won't be going
  back into a myth box.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Paul
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 As a VERY small dealer, I haven't been very happy with the quality of WD
 drives in the last few years.  I've seen too many come back dead, and many
 more come back very noisy.  These are mostly 20 and 40 GB BB or EB drives.
 I've switched to using Samsung as much as possible.  I haven't hit a bad one
 yet.  Of course, its only been a year since I started using them, and the
 next two years may teach me otherwise.
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Strange X behavior with nvidia drivers

2004-12-14 Thread Doug Larrick
Paul Hamm wrote:
I am currently going through an OS upgrade cycle to FC3.  One of my
machines has a Chaintech 7nif2 igp system board 512mb XP 3200+.  This
machine has been my test box for mythtv.  I was planning to switch it
over to my primary work station and change my work station over to a
mythtv server.  After installing FC3 (everything) and running apt-get
dist-upgrade, install KDE 3.3, latest FC3 kernel, and nvidia drivers.  I
noticed something odd.  I usually run my workstation at 1280x1024.  The
machine with the 7nif2 has always been run at 1024x768.  Now I want it
to run at 1280x1024, it does so using the nv driver.  The problem is
that if I use the nvidia driver 6629 I only get 1024x768 on the display
with a virtual 1280x1024.  Is this a known issue or am I missing
something blindingly obvious?
IIRC 6629 fixes some bugs in the code that reads resolution information 
from the monitor.  Try adding Option IgnoreEDID in the appropriate 
location (sorry, not in front of me).

You're lucky, though...  6629 is completely hosed for people with cards 
earlier than about an FX5200.

-Doug


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Re: [mythtv-users] pvr-350 tv-out hanging in live tv

2004-12-14 Thread Juan C. Gallardo
Oh yeah, little detail I forgot.
I am currently using ivtv-0.2.0_rc3
I have tried with at least 5 different versions of ivtv-0.2.0rc2 and 
two different versions of ivtv-0.2.0rc3

Juan
John Harvey wrote:
Which version of ivtv are you using?
John
--- Juan C. Gallardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 

Hello
I just manage to get the pvr-350 work over X. It
looks great! and I will 
like to keep using it, but I am having two problems.
The first as says on the title. When I try to watch
live tv it hangs, 
after a minute or something like that.
I have selected to use the pvr-350 in the tv setup.
My videos plays perfect with mplayer, from inside
and outside of 
mythfrontend.

The second problem is that if I try to watch a DVD
is vry slow. I am 
using xine to play DVDs. I am guessing that it has
to be something about 
playing MPG movies over X with the ivtv driver. So
is tehre a way to use 
xine to play dvd over X using the pvr-350 tv output?
I think I have read something about a special
version of xine to use 
with the pvr-350. Is that what I should use? if so,
where can I found it?

Of course, the first problem is the most important.
I really want to use 
the pvr output, it looks s much better than my
nvidia output, the 
colors are perfect.

Any idea, anyone?
Thanks in advance
Juan
   

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[mythtv-users] Thoughts on CD ripping

2004-12-14 Thread Andrew Wilson
Here's what I'm trying to do, has anyone tried this before?
When I put a CD into the drive, I want the system to immediately start 
playing it just as a proper CD player would, while at the same time 
ripping it to disk so you don't need to put the CD in again.

- Can myth do this? Can any other music programs do this?
I'm using an EPIA M10k which doesn't have enough oomph to encode to mp3 
in a reasonable timeframe, looking at about 30 mins for a CD, which is 
too long.

However, I've got a nice fast CD rom, which in theory should be able to 
copy a music CD to disk in a couple of minutes or so.

So, how about this for an idea:
- Read the CD into a (ISO?) file, and start playing the audio 
immediately from the file rather than off the CD.
- Eject the CD as soon as the disk has been read, but continue to play 
audio out of the ISO image
- Rip the ISO to mp3/ogg/whatever in your own time, and delete the ISO 
once it's completed.

Is this feasible? Where would I start?
Andrew
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RE: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Barbot, Chris - CTR
I too have had at least 3 WD IDE drives fail on me.  They all started
with a ca-chunking type noise.  I can't wait to have all my working ones
replaced with something else ... only then will I breathe a little
easier!
Good luck!

Chris

-Original Message-
From: cythraul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 10:17 AM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

Hi Paul,

My Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 (120 GB) has been running efficiently for
more then a year now. Tho, it's now as quiet as my two 40 GB Seagate
Barracuda IV that used to be in my backend -- now being used almost as
badly on my desktop.

My last experience with WD is with a 3 GB model that WD replaced 3
times during the warranty period. (the retailer bankrupted -- too much
WD returns? :) It cost me a bundle of shipping and customs.. The last
time it died (not long after the warranty expired,) I swore never to
buy from them again and encourage people to do the same.

Obviously they are still having problems but are still in business.
Mind boggling.

Good day,
cythraul

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:53:36 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just had my second Western Digital Special Edition 200 GB drive die
on me.  Since I'm using an ASUS Pundit, I figured heat was the culprit,
so the second drive had a dual-fan cooler on it.  No such luck.  After
about three months of use, performance suddenly degrades, and the
journals begin to corrupt.  A few days later, I/O errors crop up, and
the drive is pretty much useless.
 
 Are these drives just not up to the stress of a PVR?  I'm interested
in hearing what kind of drives people have had good luck with, as I've
about had it with these.  I'll get my third on warranty, but It won't be
going back into a myth box.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Paul
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Josiah Royse
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:53:36 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are these drives just not up to the stress of a PVR?  I'm interested in 
 hearing what kind of drives people have had good luck with, as I've about had 
 it with these.  I'll get my third on warranty, but It won't be going back 
 into a myth box.

Heat- looks like you are eliminating this one.

Physical shocks- since this PC sounds like it is in an entertainment
center: does it receive any physcial shocks such as moving it while it
is running, bumps, in a high-traffic area, stiff tv cabinet door
catches, etc?

If none of these are too extreme- you could just be experiencing a
bad batch.  Better luck next time!

--Josiah
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Re: [mythtv-users] X over PVR-350

2004-12-14 Thread sschaefer1
lets see the contents of your xorg.conf

- Original Message -
From: Dan Wilga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:24 pm
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] X over PVR-350

 I found that the latest version of ivtvdev_drv.o would cause X to 
 hog 
 99% of the CPU and not output anything. I ended up reverting to a 
 version from October 16, which is 17902 bytes.
 
 At 1:16 AM -0500 12/12/04, Josh Sharpe wrote:
 I posted something about this a week ago but didn't get much help 
 and am
 still stuck.  I'm following Jarod Wilson's FC2 HOW-TO w/ PVR-350 
 TV-out. I'm
 at the point where I'm attempting to reload X over the 350's TV-
 out.  I've
 edited xorg.conf to my specific settings and when I hit crtl-alt-
 backspaceit kills off KDE and a blank screen comes up.
 
 I have changed the PCI slot the 350 is in since my last post so 
 that the
 address of the card is 0:09.0 instead of 0:0b.0 which I thought 
 might be
 causing trouble, but it's still not working.
 
 In the xorg.conf I have 0:0x09:0 and /dev/fb0 (which is the 
 buffer my
 card is on)
 
 Thanx
 
 
 -- 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 10:17:19AM -0500, cythraul wrote:
 My Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 (120 GB) has been running efficiently for
 more then a year now. Tho, it's now as quiet as my two 40 GB Seagate
 Barracuda IV that used to be in my backend -- now being used almost as
 badly on my desktop.

We have 3 of the 200GB models, 4 months, 24x7.

So far, so good.

But do remember that IDE drives aren't really built for 24x7 100% duty
cycle applications, as SCSI drives are; that's why they're so cheap,
by comparison.  It's not *just* manufacturing quantity.

Cheers,
-- jra
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[mythtv-users] I Can't get CVS build to work w/ my PVR350 setup anymore

2004-12-14 Thread Chris Delis
Hello All,

For the past year or so, I have been able to keep up with CVS builds
no problem.  Thankfully, each time I perform an upgrade (every month or
so), I make backups of everything!

My last successful upgrade was Oct. 1st.  I realize that a lot of activity
has been going on since then.  Has something fundamentally changed in
the code that deals with the PVR350?

I am using ivtv version 0.1.9a and it (like everything else) has worked
fine for over a year now.  With the latest CVS build, mythbackend seems
to work just fine.  It can record shows and livetv perfectly (the .nuv
files are correct).  However mythfrontend seems to hang when I try to
view a recording or livetv.  There are no error messages or anything.
The TV screen initially shows me which input I'm using (Composite 0)
and then turns black.

Any ideas?  Would it help if I compiled the code with debug information?
Like I said, myth isn't crashing or anything; mythfrontend simply doesn't
play anything.

Thanks!

--Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread jedi
Quoting Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 10:17:19AM -0500, cythraul wrote:
  My Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 (120 GB) has been running efficiently for
  more then a year now. Tho, it's now as quiet as my two 40 GB Seagate
  Barracuda IV that used to be in my backend -- now being used almost as
  badly on my desktop.

 We have 3 of the 200GB models, 4 months, 24x7.

 So far, so good.

 But do remember that IDE drives aren't really built for 24x7 100% duty
 cycle applications, as SCSI drives are; that's why they're so cheap,
 by comparison.  It's not *just* manufacturing quantity.

The IDE drives in my Tivo's don't seem to have that problem.

This may simply be a case of consumer product deterioration. The drive
makers have been reducing their warranties lately. They clearly aren't
interested in standing behind their products for any reasonable amount
of time any more (regardless of how the drives are used).

Seagate specifically markets models with the older/longer warranties.
I thought that WD was also supposed to have such a line but I have not
seen it in retail outlets.



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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar

2004-12-14 Thread Marc Nicholas
Heh...maybe I should stop using Google as a verb as well ;-)
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
I thought this was funny:
http://news.com.com/Noun+Verb+TiVo+says+its+neither/2100-1041_3-5488370.html
TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb.  Granted 
they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny.

Kevin
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[mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar

2004-12-14 Thread Kevin Kuphal
I thought this was funny:
http://news.com.com/Noun+Verb+TiVo+says+its+neither/2100-1041_3-5488370.html
TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb.  
Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny.

Kevin
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar

2004-12-14 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 11:15:01AM -0600, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
 I thought this was funny:
 http://news.com.com/Noun+Verb+TiVo+says+its+neither/2100-1041_3-5488370.html
 
 TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb.  
 Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny.

They're correct; it's neither.

Like all trademarked brand names, it's an *adjective*:

A TiVo personal video recorder.
A Band-aid brand adhesive bandage.
A Whopper sandwich.

Get the impression I've spent too much time doing this?  ;-)

Cheers,
-- jra
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Asciimonster
Over the last two years I bought 5 hard disks as upgrades for the Myth 
boxes I've made; 2 Maxtor, 3 WD. Once a WD was DOP (Dead on Purchase) 
and got it replaced. I also got a lot of old (20 GB) drives and my 
experience is that most drives (regardless of the brand) die after a 
year or 5 to 10.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just had my second Western Digital Special Edition 200 GB drive die on me.  Since I'm using an ASUS Pundit, I figured heat was the culprit, so the second drive had a dual-fan cooler on it.  No such luck.  After about three months of use, performance suddenly degrades, and the journals begin to corrupt.  A few days later, I/O errors crop up, and the drive is pretty much useless.  

Are these drives just not up to the stress of a PVR?  I'm interested in hearing 
what kind of drives people have had good luck with, as I've about had it with 
these.  I'll get my third on warranty, but It won't be going back into a myth 
box.
Thanks,
Paul
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RE: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar

2004-12-14 Thread Paul Kidwell
 On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 11:15:01AM -0600, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
  I thought this was funny:
  http://news.com.com/Noun+Verb+TiVo+says+its+neither/2100-1041_3-5488370.html
 
  TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb.
  Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny.


I think we should jump in here. My wife uses Myth as a verb all the time...

Oh shoot! I forgot to watch Nip/Tuck last night. Did you Myth it?

or

There's a show on tonight that I want you to Myth

(almost sounds like she's talking with a lisp :)

Paul

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Chris Petersen
This may simply be a case of consumer product deterioration. The drive
makers have been reducing their warranties lately. They clearly aren't
interested in standing behind their products for any reasonable amount
of time any more (regardless of how the drives are used).
Really?  Seagate recently bumped their warranty from 3 to 5 years on ALL 
drives.  WD did the same (but only for OEM's -- the retail drives did 
drop from 3 to 1 year)

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar

2004-12-14 Thread Scott Alfter
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 12:55:17PM -0500, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
 Trademarks are a funny thing.
 
 They *have* to take affirmative action to protect them, or they slip,
 into the public domain.
 
 Like Aspirin.

I thought aspirin fell into the public domain because the Germans lost WWI. 
A search turned up this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspirin

The name aspirin is composed of a- (for the acetyl group) -spir- (for
the spiraea flower) and -in (a common ending for drugs at the time).
Bayer registered it as a trademark on March 6, 1899.

However, the German company lost the right to use the trademark in many
countries as the Allies seized and resold its foreign assets after World
War I. The right to use Aspirin in the United States (along with all
other Bayer trademarks) was purchased from the U.S. government by
Sterling Drug, Inc in 1918. Even before the patent for the drug expired
in 1917, Bayer had been unable to stop competitors from copying the
formula and using the name elsewhere, and so with a flooded market, the
public was unable to recognize Aspirin as coming from only one
manufacturer. Sterling was subsequently unable to prevent Aspirin from
being ruled a generic mark (and therefore unprotected) in a U.S. federal
court in 1921. Other countries (such as Canada) still consider Aspirin
a protected trademark.

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[mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar

2004-12-14 Thread Bill Chmura

And I thought the days of conquering armies pillaging and looting were over!

On Tuesday 14 December 2004 02:05 pm, Scott Alfter wrote:
 However, the German company lost the right to use the trademark in many
     countries as the Allies seized and resold its foreign assets after
 World War I. The right to use Aspirin in the United States (along with
 all other Bayer trademarks) was purchased from the U.S. government by
 Sterling Drug, Inc in 1918.

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Re: [mythtv-users] changing channels on Directv D10 receiver

2004-12-14 Thread nate s
If people are interested, I could host it somewhere (so that one does
not have to search through the archive to find it.)

Also, I found the origional post I got it from.  Credit for it goes to
Bob Stafford.  see here:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/50587


-Nate

 On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 18:38, Kayne wrote:
  On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 14:56, nate s wrote:
   Or, if you search the archive, I recently posted a C program that I've
   had better luck with than the RCA.pl script.  You might give that a
   try.
 
  never mind, found it.
 
  http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/95415?search_string=nate.strickland%20at%20gmail;#95415
 
  Kayne
 
 
 For those wondering, it was a *much* faster solution for changing
 channels.  The RCA.pl script was very slow on this machine and I'd
 suggest it to others on this receiver.
 
 Kayne
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: DVB in the UK (EPG)

2004-12-14 Thread Ivor Hewitt
On Tuesday 14 Dec 2004 12:26, Andrew Wilson wrote:
 On Sunday 12 Dec 2004 20:09, Stephen Tait wrote:
   Edit: I've found a site selling what purports to be one
   http://www.thedigiboxshop.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=18, but I
   can't see a keyboard anywhere...

 You can buy them anywhere... dixons, currys etc. They flip open and
 there's a
 qwerty keyboard inside.


 Forgive my ignorance: Can you use this thing as a regular keyboard in X
 using lirc?  That would just be dandy!

Oh indeedey, very handy.

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Re: [mythtv-users] MediaMVP

2004-12-14 Thread Andrew Close
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:43:57 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip /
  Commercial skip is the biggest feature I miss.  Video quality is
exactly the same as my frontend used to be.

i thought commercial skip was performed on the backend after the
program was recorded???  and then just the recorded feature was sent
to the front end.   am i missing something here?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread nate s
Another vote for seagate.  I have a 200G 7200.7 (PATA version) that's
been running great for a while now.  It is almost silent, very fast
compared to the 60G maxtor that I had before it, and barely even gets
warm to the touch.

On a side note, I've been looking into getting another of the exact
same, to perhaps set up a raid array, and I've notived the price on
them has gone up since I first bought it.  I guess they've been
popular.

-Nate


On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:18:14 -0800, Chris Petersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Chris,  I'm assuming that you are not taking any extra measures for
  cooling this drive in your pundit?  I  did some sheet metal
  modifications to my Pundit drive bay so that I could add cooling.
  Hopefully with this new drive I can remove the cooler, as it is the
  noisiest item in the case by far.
 
 Nope, nothing special.  I've even lately taken to keeping my pundit in a
 cabinet (granted, big hole cut out of the back of it).
 
 I do have an optical drive in there, but it's unplugged, so it won't
 generate any heat like it might if it was plugged in.
 
 -Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] New Custom Record

2004-12-14 Thread Brad Templeton
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 12:23:32PM -0800, nate s wrote:
 That sounds to me like a great idea.  I've been wanting the exact same
 thing myself, and have been considering how to impliment it (not being
 a dev)  I was thinking about writhing a script to mess with the
 database to show that specific episodes are the same, or something. 
 If there were native support for something like this, that'd be great.

That's barely even a script, and I must admit while kludgey it's a good
idea.

For example, if they all aired on the same day (not true for daily
show) then something like this would be in order.

UPDATE 'program'
SET subtitle = Concat(Program for , date(starttime))
where 'title' = The Daily Show AND
subtitle = A humourous slant on top news stories;



To firm this up, you would have it do two updates.  One would take
episodes where HOUR(TIME(starttime) = 18, and the other where they
are less than 18, and the one for less than 18 would modify the
subtitle to include the prior day (dateadd should work).

I'm not an SQL wizard, so this is just a quick guess, but it
would look something like this.   If you ran this after a database
fill you would not get repeats.  I will let an SQL wizard refine
the statement if they like.

You could just feed this to the mysql program -- no coding (outside of
SQL) required.


However, this is a very specific solution, you need a line like this
for every code, though it would not be hard to generalize it with
fancier SQL to detect shows that are on multiple times a day with the
same description, and stuff the date into the description as shown
above.

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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV, Myth, and Cable television -- basic questions

2004-12-14 Thread Lane Schwartz
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:51:42 -0500, Micah Wedemeyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 1. HDTV and Cable television
 ...
 ...in the future, I expect that eventually I will want HDTV.  But, I will
 still  want to watch mostly cable channels.  So, finally, a question: What is
 necessary to watch HDTV for cable television?  Do you think Myth will be able 
 to
 do this, or will the channels be encrypted in such a way to make this
 impossible? 

It is not possible now, and likely will not be possible to watch HDTV
on cable TV channels using Myth.


 2. pcHDTV and Broadcast flag - (Non-USA users: ignore this)
 ...
 The main question is: Will the pcHDTV 3000 allow for HDTV over cable?  Note: 
 I'm
  not asking for a guarantee here, just a It's in the works...  Mainly, I 
 don't
 want to buy a card that is only for OTA HDTV and has no plans for cable.

There is talk that pcHDTV is working on QAM-capable firmware for the
pcHDTV 3000.

If the pcHDTV people provide QAM-capable firmware, then it should be
possible to use the pcHDTV 3000 to watch HDTV on cable TV - but *only*
if the particular channel is not encrypted. Most cable providers
encrypt some channels; many cable providers encrypt all channels.


 3. MythTV and broadcast flag - (Non-USA users: ignore this)
 Assuming I miss the June date and buy a HDTV tuner card after that, what of 
 the
 broadcast flag?  Anyone have any ideas how this might interact with MythTV?  I
 understand that it is a hardware issue, but perhaps it can be disabled by 
 hacked
 drivers?  More basically, what is the point of it?  Can content providers send
 out a signal and force all copies of tv-show X to delete themselves?

The way I understand it, hardware manufactured after the cut-off date
will be required to honor the broadcast flag. No one knows for sure
what this will mean. Many people (me included) read the statute to
mean that if a show has the broadcast flag enabled, the tuner hardware
must prevent the show from being recorded.

If this reading is correct then a PVR (or HD-capable digital VCR) set
to record program X would not record program X if the content provider
enables the broadcast flag for program X.

Hope that helps,
Lane

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Re: [mythtv-users] hauppauge 350 tvout no go!

2004-12-14 Thread Dave Ashmore
David Erickson wrote:
Dave,
I had some significant problems getting it to work myself but i am still
using Redhat 9.  I can tell you that I know several people on here have
gotten it to work on FC3.  Unfortunately the X windows version that Red
Hat 9 and FC3 uses are different so I can't help other than to suggest you
follow Jarod's website's instruction very clearly as I have never had a
problem when I followed that.  I'll be updating to FC3 after the holiday's
but hopefully you'll get around this stump before then.
Dave
 

Sorry for the following frustration but I have mythtv working in FC3 and
all is well recording.
Ok here goes my rant.
http://www.hauppauge.com/html/wintvpvr350_datasheet.htm
I would suggest users just buy the 250 as the X tvout does not seem to
work for me.
If I go to myth setup/utilitiesplayback use pvr-350 out.
I can in fact use the watch tv or playback a video and it does work with
poor color but I cannot ween myself from using a monitor. I want/need
pvr-350 tvout to display the X desktop. If I did not in fact have the
monitor plugged in I would not be able to use the mythfrontend menu.
lspci reports:
01:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15
MPEG-2 Enc
oder (rev 01)
cat /var/log/messages |grep iTVC15 TV out
Reports:
Dec 13 20:38:34 mythbox kernel: ivtv-osd: fb0: iTVC15 TV out frame
buffer device
SO the way I see it I can't get this to work.
SO here is what I'm thinking.
One of the following:
Buy another graphics card and torture myself to possibly getting it to
work to display X desktop with tvout.
Getting an xbox and try to use it as a frontend.
Continue to try to get X desktop to display on the pvr-350 tvout.
Or could I possibly get a product like this display from vga to
component video and leave well enough alone?
Specifications for HD15 (VGA) Male to RCA x 3 Male, D / Shield, (VGA to
Component Video), 6 ft Part Number 10H1-50106
http://www.national-tech.com/specs/10h2-50106.htm
(I'm thinking this looks like the easiest way to go if it would in fact
work)
Does anyone have the pvr-350 displaying X desktop?
If so how?
Please advise.
Regards
Dave Ashmore
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Ok here is my files but I edited them back to the original state.
I know when it locks up the cpu there is something on the screen that 
says /dev/fb0 no such device.
I would assume its in the log file but this stuff is way over my head 
the troubleshooting aspect.
My files are posted here:
http://djash.com/pvr350

If there is anything else we need to troubleshoot please let me know.
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Re: [mythtv-users] MediaMVP

2004-12-14 Thread Chris Pinkham
 On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:43:57 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 snip /
   Commercial skip is the biggest feature I miss.  Video quality is
 exactly the same as my frontend used to be.
 
 i thought commercial skip was performed on the backend after the
 program was recorded???  and then just the recorded feature was sent
 to the front end.   am i missing something here?

Commercial Detection is performed by the backend.  Commercial Skip
is performed by the frontend using the information detected by the
commercial detection that the backend ran.  So, in the MediaMVP's
case, the frontend (aka MediaMVP) doesn't have the necessary feature
to use the information detected by the backend.  The shows are still
flagged (in the recordedmarkup table in the database), the MediaMVP
just doesn't ?can't? take advantage of the flagging info in order to
skip commercials.

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[mythtv-users] DVB-T out-of-the-box

2004-12-14 Thread Neil Davidson
(Think I sent a completely blank email to the list a minute ago, my
apologies if it gets through)

Is there a distribution and DVB-T card combination out there that will work
with a fresh install without any hassles?

I have read so much stuff and tried so many things with FC2 and FC3 with my
Nebula DigiTV and nothing has worked.

Installing Windows right now on the box so I can record the John Peel
tributes on Thursday night but after that I'll be starting over again. So if
anyone has any step by steps they can give me then it is greatly appreciated
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Re: [mythtv-users] MediaMVP

2004-12-14 Thread Andrew Close
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:26:52 -0500 (EST), Chris Pinkham 
snip /
 Commercial Detection is performed by the backend.  Commercial Skip
 is performed by the frontend using the information detected by the
 commercial detection that the backend ran.  

huh, bummer.  i thought the files actually had the commercials
stripped out of them on the backend.  i was hoping i wouldn't have to
do that manually for shows in which i want to save the whole series.
does anyone have a script or something that they've set up to do this?

andy
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Re: [mythtv-users] DVB in the UK (EPG)

2004-12-14 Thread Tom Hughes
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Tom Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Martin Ebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I don't think the visionplus one comes with a remote control. The remote
  with the nova-t is pretty good and works well with MythTV. It'd be worth
  the extra for that.
 
 I have other plans for a remote. Aside from anything else I want to
 mount the receiver internally if I can.

It turns out that the Visionplus card does come with a remote. Don't
know if lirc can drive it yet mind.

 I ordered two VisionPlus cards on Friday anyway, so we'll see what
 they're like when they turn up on Tuesday... I've got seven days to
 send them back if I don't like them.

Well they came this morning and they seem to be working OK so far.

Tom

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Terrence Martin
I have more experience with disks as a result of the 300 or so I have in 
my clusters, rather than MythTV. I have seen many disks fail, but things 
seem to be improving. Most disks I find, if they are going to fail, fail 
in their first year. So multi year warranty is a must. 

Any manufacturer can be bad, but disk from 2002 to early 2004 were 
probably the worst from many mfg. This is the period when the disk mfg 
reduced warranties for retail drives to 1 year.

Things seem to have improved. Seagate recently increased their warranty 
to up to 5 years on SATA drives. Some of the other mfg have followed suit.

My experience is that I have moved away from Maxtor and WD to seagate. 
Overall I am so far finding Seagate disks to be more reliable. I based 
this on experience, and the fact that seagate provides some of the best 
warranties out there. Warranties are a gamble on the par tof the mfg so 
they seem to be confident in their products. I also only use SATA which 
I have also found to be of superior reliabilty, although I have only 
deployed a dozen or so SATA disk.

My comment is you never know. Disks fail for a variety of reasons, and 
it is best to assume you will have a failure at some point.

To mitigate the risk I recommend either RAID1 or RAID5 software 
mirroring if you actually care about your data otherwise go with the 
disks with the best warranties. They may not last longer, but at least 
you can get them replaced. Also go with SATA if you can. SATA has some 
nice features that (if you have the right controller) can reduce some of 
the load situations that increase the wear and tear on your disk.

Terrence

Brian May wrote:
Paul ==   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   

   Paul I just had my second Western Digital Special Edition 200 GB
   Paul drive die on me.  Since I'm using an ASUS Pundit, I figured
   Paul heat was the culprit, so the second drive had a dual-fan
   Paul cooler on it.  No such luck.  After about three months of
   Paul use, performance suddenly degrades, and the journals begin
   Paul to corrupt.  A few days later, I/O errors crop up, and the
   Paul drive is pretty much useless.  Are these drives just not up
   Paul to the stress of a PVR?  I'm interested in hearing what kind
   Paul of drives people have had good luck with, as I've about had
   Paul it with these.  I'll get my third on warranty, but It won't
   Paul be going back into a myth box.
In the past I have had lots of problems with hard disks on my 24x7
Linux server. Hard disks (from all major brands) were dieing between 3
months and 13 months (one month after warranty).
I ended up paying more for 4 hard disks (WD) with 3 year warranty. The
hard disks in my Linux server are still working perfectly - I am a bit
suspicious of the hard disks in my mythtv system (once I tried to boot
up and one hard disk didn't come online - I took the computer apart,
pulled the IDE connector out, and put everything back together and it
suddenly started working again... However, I sometimes get bad looking
hard disk error messages on boot up when I look...)
 


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[mythtv-users] Re: Strange X behavior with nvidia drivers

2004-12-14 Thread Axel Thimm
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 12:41:29PM -0500, Paul Hamm wrote:
 No joy, I seem to have the same issue with 6111.  BTW I had to download
 and install the nvidia drivers manually as 6111 and 6106 both give this
 error if you use atrpms.
 
 nvidia: Unknown symbol __VMALLOC_RESERVE
 
 the fix is to unpack the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run and edit
 nv.c by adding the following line below the Global state comment.
 
 unsigned int __VMALLOC_RESERVE;

But that's the wrong fix, as it introduces a different
__VMALLOC_RESERVE symbol than the one that is not anymore exported
(but still used). So while there are no errors at module load time,
any access to __VMALLOC_RESERVE will be to the above symbol and not
the kernel's.

The fix is either in nvidia's sources (e.g. 6629) or in rexprting the
symbol in the kernel (requires patching the kernel).

 I also tried Jarods tip of adding, which did nothing.
 
 Option  ConnectedMonitor crt
 
 I will drop the FC2 hard drive back in an see if I get the same
 behavior.
 
 On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 09:31, Doug Larrick wrote:
  Paul Hamm wrote:
   I am currently going through an OS upgrade cycle to FC3.  One of my
   machines has a Chaintech 7nif2 igp system board 512mb XP 3200+.  This
   machine has been my test box for mythtv.  I was planning to switch it
   over to my primary work station and change my work station over to a
   mythtv server.  After installing FC3 (everything) and running apt-get
   dist-upgrade, install KDE 3.3, latest FC3 kernel, and nvidia drivers.  I
   noticed something odd.  I usually run my workstation at 1280x1024.  The
   machine with the 7nif2 has always been run at 1024x768.  Now I want it
   to run at 1280x1024, it does so using the nv driver.  The problem is
   that if I use the nvidia driver 6629 I only get 1024x768 on the display
   with a virtual 1280x1024.  Is this a known issue or am I missing
   something blindingly obvious?
  
  IIRC 6629 fixes some bugs in the code that reads resolution information 
  from the monitor.  Try adding Option IgnoreEDID in the appropriate 
  location (sorry, not in front of me).
  
  You're lucky, though...  6629 is completely hosed for people with cards 
  earlier than about an FX5200.
  
  -Doug
  
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[mythtv-users] PChdtv.com hacked

2004-12-14 Thread Tom E. Craddock, Jr.
Hey
Went to the main site, all it said was Simiens Crew, some googling 
shows that they are some hackers who deface sites, anyone know the email 
addy of the site maintainer, in case they dont know.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Brian May
 Terrence == Terrence Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Terrence To mitigate the risk I recommend either RAID1

Unfortunately, RAID1 will not help in the case the hard disk returns
random data but fails to report an error. There is no way of knowing
which disk is good and which disk is bad. The result is that the bad
data may be written to the good disk resulting in two bad disks.

Having said that I used RAID1 for my important data (and keep
backups).
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Re: [mythtv-users] Getting rid of the console framebuffer in FC 3?

2004-12-14 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Tuesday 14 December 2004 22:21, David Smith wrote:
 Hello All,

 I'm following Jarod's guide (much appreciation Jarod).
 I'm stuck trying to get ivtv-fb to load properly.
 Can't load ivtv-fb from the console. Receive a Kernel Oops if I do. This
 has been reported by others in Mythtv and Ivtv archives.
 Loads fine from within X but the PC hangs if I try to switch back to the
 console with it loaded.

 Someone in the Ivtv-devel list reported success compiling the kernel
 without console framebuffer support.

 I'd like to be able to recompile the stock 2.6.9-681_FC3 kernel and still
 be able use the packaged kernel modules.
 Is this possible and/or wise? or would I be better off trying FC 2?

It seems FC2 is still a bit more stable platform for systems using the 350's 
output. I haven't actually tried my 350 output under FC3 yet, just haven't 
had the time.

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Re: [mythtv-users] NEW - BIG PROBLEM! Watching LiveTV is very slow !!!!!

2004-12-14 Thread Brad Templeton
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 05:04:15PM -0800, Bruce Markey wrote:
 Even if you wanted to watch near real time, whatever that means
 or if it really mattered, you're still better off watching the
 recorded file in progress than relying on the ringbuffer. If

Indeed, but this is just advice because the ringbuffer needs some
design work.  It should be damn near impossible to lose the ringbuffer.
Even if you change channels, even if you kill the front end.  You
should be able to rewind back through channel changes (possibly with
a pause and warning as you go through them).

The Tivo also fails this test, and you can lose the ringbuffer by
accident by hitting a number button or channel change button.

The only way to lose the ringbuffer should be if space is needed
to record a program you have requested and can't be freed another
way.   Material more than 30 minutes prior to your watch point can
generally be considered ripe for release.

Of course, you can attain this by asking for a recording rather than
ring buffer.  However, a 4 hour sporting event in HD is going to be
almost 30 gigabytes, and you might not have the space to keep it when
all you want to do is watch 20 minutes behind.

A common trick for sports and other live items on Tivo is as follows:

a) When the show begins, pause the viewing and watch a recording
in your library for some buffer period, like 20 minutes.

b) Switch to the live event.  Skip over commercials, pitching
changes other boring stuff. 

c) When you get to live, pause again and watcy a show in your
library for another 20 minutes.

This, I don't think, you can do easily with MythTV.  You must request
to record the show, which as noted may take 30gb of space for a big
sporting event or the Academy Awards or whatever in HD.  Yes, 30GB
is cheap but most people fill up their disks, so every attempt
to record 30GB punts something else.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Building a myth box, wanna look over my components?

2004-12-14 Thread Cecil Watson
Cecil,
Derek Gathright wrote:
NForce2 is bad?  Wow, really?  That what I've had others suggest to
me.  Anyone else wanna chime in?
 

I run my MBE w/ a nforce 2 based board.  It has been rock solid.
http://mysettopbox.tv/linhes.html
Cecil
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