[newbie] 1024 cylinder limit
Many thanks to everyone who replied to my question about swap file sizes. Now I have another concern. I have an 80GB hard drive with one partition containing windows XP and formatted NTFS. I plan to use Partitionmagic 7.0 to shrink this partition to 40GB thus leaving me 40GB to install LM 8.2. However the PM manual containds dire warnings about a linux bootable partition needing to be below the 1024 cylinder (8GB) boundary. Is this still a problem with LM 8.2 and if so what would be the best way round it. Note my previous nmachine only had a 8GB disk and so I had no problems with Win 98 and LM 8.0. Thanks in advance petew Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 1024 cylinder limit
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:02:58 +0100 Peter Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However the PM manual containds dire warnings about a linux bootable partition needing to be below the 1024 cylinder (8GB) boundary. Is this still a problem with LM 8.2 and if so what would be the best way round it. That is an out-of-date warning from PM. As long as your BIOS supports that size drive and you were not forced to use EZ-Bios or one of its clones, you will have no problem using lilo in 8.2 to boot. Lilo used to have a 1024 limit but no longer and I do not think that grub has ever had it. Charles -- The wages of sin are high but you get your money's worth. -- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 1024 cylinder limit
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:02:58 +0100, Peter Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many thanks to everyone who replied to my question about swap file sizes. Now I have another concern. I have an 80GB hard drive with one partition containing windows XP and formatted NTFS. I plan to use Partitionmagic 7.0 to shrink this partition to 40GB thus leaving me 40GB to install LM 8.2. However the PM manual containds dire warnings about a linux bootable partition needing to be below the 1024 cylinder (8GB) boundary. Is this still a problem with LM 8.2 and if so what would be the best way round it. Note my previous nmachine only had a 8GB disk and so I had no problems with Win 98 and LM 8.0. The PM documentation is outdated by a couple of years. LILO and GRUB can boot Linux from just about anywhere on the disc. You can safely install Mandrake 8.2 [or better yet, wait for 9.0, which should be out in under a month :) ] to wherever you want. AFAIK, Windows still has this 1024 cylinder limit. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan The reason I'm doing Linux is not because I think I'm needed. It's because I enjoy it, and because I happen to believe that I'm better than most at it. Not necessarily better than everybody else around there, but good enough, and with the social ties to make me unbeatable right now. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 1024 cylinder limit
I have the same arrangement. Hda for windows, hdb for linux and hda for windows. I also have 8 gig of hdb for windows but it wont see it because it comes after a linux partition. On Mon, 25 Dec 2000, you wrote: Jake, You may also consider a different partitioning strategy: * 1 or 2 GB to Windoze for _just_ the OS * The next 3 or more GB to Linux * The rest to Windoze I do this for three reasons: 1) I never have to worry about the 1024 cylinder limit. 2) It makes back-up of my Windoze OS extremely small (less than 400 MB), fast, and simple. 3) It forces me to put all the important files that usually ends up on my desktop (read: my OS partition since the desktop is really a subdirectory in C:\Windows) onto the other partition. So should anything happen to my OS partition (like two weeks ago) all my data is safe on the other partition. And BTW, setting the Windoze OS partition to a gig still gives you a good 300 MB to work with. The first reason has been eliminated with Mandrake 7.2, I believe. But if Windoze gets hosed, this partitioning scheme lets me get back on track within two minutes, without any loss of data. Miark Hello, I bought Linux Mandrake 7.0 months ago, and now I'm reading up trying to figure out how to use it. I've look at the documentation on the Mandrake page, the Instillation How-To, the Win95+Linux How- To, and a few others. Some of them mention that with some distributions of Linux, on some computers, bootable partitions must completely reside below the 1024th cylinder. How do I know if I need to have my Linux boot partition below the 1024th cylinder when partitioning my drive? I bought Partition Magic to help with the partitioning. Thanks, Jake -- == Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round geek.
Re: [newbie] 1024 cylinder limit
Mandrake 7.1 and 7.2 uses GRUB instead of LILO by default. GRUB and newer versions of LILO do not have a 1024 cylinder limit, so you can boot from just about anywhere on the disc. You have to be careful when making a partition just for the OS. With Linux, there are few problems, if any. But Windos directories have a rather nasty habit of ballooning out of control. You need to provide adequate room for this, and keeping it free can be seen by many to be just a waste of space. Try examining the size of c:\windows (including subdirectories) after a fresh installation and checking it again after installing bloatware like M$ Office. The Office directory may appear to be smaller than expected but c:\windows has increased dramatically in size. This is all part of the bad design of Windos, encouraging apps to mix their files with system files. On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 10:37, Miark wrote: Jake, You may also consider a different partitioning strategy: * 1 or 2 GB to Windoze for _just_ the OS * The next 3 or more GB to Linux * The rest to Windoze I do this for three reasons: 1) I never have to worry about the 1024 cylinder limit. 2) It makes back-up of my Windoze OS extremely small (less than 400 MB), fast, and simple. 3) It forces me to put all the important files that usually ends up on my desktop (read: my OS partition since the desktop is really a subdirectory in C:\Windows) onto the other partition. So should anything happen to my OS partition (like two weeks ago) all my data is safe on the other partition. And BTW, setting the Windoze OS partition to a gig still gives you a good 300 MB to work with. The first reason has been eliminated with Mandrake 7.2, I believe. But if Windoze gets hosed, this partitioning scheme lets me get back on track within two minutes, without any loss of data. Miark Hello, I bought Linux Mandrake 7.0 months ago, and now I'm reading up trying to figure out how to use it. I've look at the documentation on the Mandrake page, the Instillation How-To, the Win95+Linux How- To, and a few others. Some of them mention that with some distributions of Linux, on some computers, bootable partitions must completely reside below the 1024th cylinder. How do I know if I need to have my Linux boot partition below the 1024th cylinder when partitioning my drive? I bought Partition Magic to help with the partitioning. Thanks, Jake -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.
Re: [newbie] 1024 cylinder limit
Easy, install Mandrake so that the boot partition is well within the first 8 gigs off your harddrive. My situation with my 19 gig drives is first 6 gigs win2k next 3 gis mandrake last 10 gigs windows(media partition) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I bought Linux Mandrake 7.0 months ago, and now I'm reading up trying to figure out how to use it. I've look at the documentation on the Mandrake page, the Instillation How-To, the Win95+Linux How- To, and a few others. Some of them mention that with some distributions of Linux, on some computers, bootable partitions must completely reside below the 1024th cylinder. How do I know if I need to have my Linux boot partition below the 1024th cylinder when partitioning my drive? I bought Partition Magic to help with the partitioning. Thanks, Jake NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Re: [newbie] 1024 cylinder limit
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:27, Alan Shoemaker wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I bought Linux Mandrake 7.0 months ago, and now I'm reading up trying to figure out how to use it. I've look at the documentation on the Mandrake page, the Instillation How-To, the Win95+Linux How- To, and a few others. Some of them mention that with some distributions of Linux, on some computers, bootable partitions must completely reside below the 1024th cylinder. How do I know if I need to have my Linux boot partition below the 1024th cylinder when partitioning my drive? I bought Partition Magic to help with the partitioning. Thanks, Jake Jakeyes with 7.0 you do need to make sure that the partition that contains the kernal ends before the 1024th cylinder of your drive. This is of no concern if the drive you're using is 8 megs or less in size as 8 megs correlates Don't you mean 8 gigs? to 1023 cylinders. But if the drive is greater than 8 megs then the easiest way to assure the kernal isn't in a partition that crosses the 1024 cylinder boundary is to create a small (mine are 8 megs) partition first and during installation assign that one the mount point /boot. If you upgrade LILO to the latest version, use GRUB, or simply use Mandrake 7.2, then you will have no 1024 cylinder problem. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.
Re: [newbie] 1024 cylinder limit
Or, if putting the bulk of the OS within the first 8 gig is not an option, put a 20 meg partition at the very front of the HD and run the installation discs...lilo will automatically be installed there... peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #190719 On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Andrew Brown wrote: Easy, install Mandrake so that the boot partition is well within the first 8 gigs off your harddrive. My situation with my 19 gig drives is first 6 gigs win2k next 3 gis mandrake last 10 gigs windows(media partition) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I bought Linux Mandrake 7.0 months ago, and now I'm reading up trying to figure out how to use it. I've look at the documentation on the Mandrake page, the Instillation How-To, the Win95+Linux How- To, and a few others. Some of them mention that with some distributions of Linux, on some computers, bootable partitions must completely reside below the 1024th cylinder. How do I know if I need to have my Linux boot partition below the 1024th cylinder when partitioning my drive? I bought Partition Magic to help with the partitioning. Thanks, Jake NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Re: [newbie] 1024 cylinder limit
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:27, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Jakeyes with 7.0 you do need to make sure that the partition that contains the kernal ends before the 1024th cylinder of your drive. This is of no concern if the drive you're using is 8 megs or less in size as 8 megs correlates Don't you mean 8 gigs? Sridharduh! I sure do!!! Thanks for pointing that out! to 1023 cylinders. But if the drive is greater than 8 megs then the easiest way to assure the kernal isn't in a partition that crosses the 1024 cylinder boundary is to create a small (mine are 8 megs) partition first and during installation assign that one the mount point /boot. If you upgrade LILO to the latest version, use GRUB, or simply use Mandrake 7.2, then you will have no 1024 cylinder problem. -- Alan
