[newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Tavazzani Paolo
Hi all,
Sorry if I re-post, but the original message had no subject :-( 

I've just installed Mandrake 10.0 on my PC.
The system has two disks, on disk 1 I just left the original Windows Xp partition, on 
disk 2 (bigger and faster) I have freed some 11gb from XP with Partition Magic.

I've installed Mandrake 10.0 in expert mode, I got it to install in the free space, 
making two partitions: one of 10gb for '/' and a 1gb swap partition. Result after 
partitioning: 70GB NTFS - 10GB Ext3 - 1GB Swap

Installation went OK.

Now I can access with LILO both the XP installation and the Mandrake one and 
everything works fine.

The main problem I have is that if I launch Partition Magic from XP, PM shwos for disk 
2 with a single partition and says it is a damaged one. I suspect some partition 
overlap but I'm not sure on how to move

Any suggestion?

Thanks




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RE: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Tony S. Sykes
Paolo,

Ignore the error message from PM, if you try and fix it you can hose your Linux 
installation (I did a long time ago).

Tony.

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Subject: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says
that the partition di damaged


Hi all,
Sorry if I re-post, but the original message had no subject :-( 

I've just installed Mandrake 10.0 on my PC.
The system has two disks, on disk 1 I just left the original Windows Xp partition, on 
disk 2 (bigger and faster) I have freed some 11gb from XP with Partition Magic.

I've installed Mandrake 10.0 in expert mode, I got it to install in the free space, 
making two partitions: one of 10gb for '/' and a 1gb swap partition. Result after 
partitioning: 70GB NTFS - 10GB Ext3 - 1GB Swap

Installation went OK.

Now I can access with LILO both the XP installation and the Mandrake one and 
everything works fine.

The main problem I have is that if I launch Partition Magic from XP, PM shwos for disk 
2 with a single partition and says it is a damaged one. I suspect some partition 
overlap but I'm not sure on how to move

Any suggestion?

Thanks




Paolo Tavazzani
Fastweb S.p.A.
Via Caracciolo 51
20155 Milano
Phone:  +39 02 4545 4892
Mobile: +39 348 3673 626
Fax:+39 02 4545 4811
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RE: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Tavazzani Paolo
Hi Tony,
thanks for the suggestion.
I must admit that, having installed the Linux partition just yesterday I could loose 
it and re-install without too many troubles.

What I'm worried about is that, if PM is right, something crazy like a partition 
overlapping has happened and I could end up, when filling one of the two partitions, 
with trashing the other one and loosing some meaningful data.

BTW, how have you solved the problem?
While we are at it, If I should decide to re-install Linux from scratch, which is the 
best way to get rid of LILO and reset the XP boot process? Are the XP utilities to fix 
MBR OK?

Thanks
Paolo

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From: Tony S. Sykes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: lunedì 22 marzo 2004 15.03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says
that the partition di damaged


Paolo,

Ignore the error message from PM, if you try and fix it you can hose your Linux 
installation (I did a long time ago).

Tony.

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Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 1:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says
that the partition di damaged


Hi all,
Sorry if I re-post, but the original message had no subject :-( 

I've just installed Mandrake 10.0 on my PC.
The system has two disks, on disk 1 I just left the original Windows Xp partition, on 
disk 2 (bigger and faster) I have freed some 11gb from XP with Partition Magic.

I've installed Mandrake 10.0 in expert mode, I got it to install in the free space, 
making two partitions: one of 10gb for '/' and a 1gb swap partition. Result after 
partitioning: 70GB NTFS - 10GB Ext3 - 1GB Swap

Installation went OK.

Now I can access with LILO both the XP installation and the Mandrake one and 
everything works fine.

The main problem I have is that if I launch Partition Magic from XP, PM shwos for disk 
2 with a single partition and says it is a damaged one. I suspect some partition 
overlap but I'm not sure on how to move

Any suggestion?

Thanks




Paolo Tavazzani
Fastweb S.p.A.
Via Caracciolo 51
20155 Milano
Phone:  +39 02 4545 4892
Mobile: +39 348 3673 626
Fax:+39 02 4545 4811
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RE: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Tony S. Sykes
Paolo,

PM reports this error when it is not really an error. You will always get it. (Have a 
look in the archives as there was a big discussion on this a while back). If you want 
to re-install Linux just put CD 1 in the drive and start again. My personal opinion is 
to not use PM at all. You can do all the partitioning through diskdrake. If you are 
happy with the current partition table you can just install over the top of the old 
install. As for the MBR I will leave that to one of my more knowledgeable list friends 
to answer as I never have had to deal with it.

Tony.

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Subject: RE: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says
that the partition di damaged


Hi Tony,
thanks for the suggestion.
I must admit that, having installed the Linux partition just yesterday I could loose 
it and re-install without too many troubles.

What I'm worried about is that, if PM is right, something crazy like a partition 
overlapping has happened and I could end up, when filling one of the two partitions, 
with trashing the other one and loosing some meaningful data.

BTW, how have you solved the problem?
While we are at it, If I should decide to re-install Linux from scratch, which is the 
best way to get rid of LILO and reset the XP boot process? Are the XP utilities to fix 
MBR OK?

Thanks
Paolo

-Original Message-
From: Tony S. Sykes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: luned 22 marzo 2004 15.03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says
that the partition di damaged


Paolo,

Ignore the error message from PM, if you try and fix it you can hose your Linux 
installation (I did a long time ago).

Tony.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tavazzani Paolo
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 1:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says
that the partition di damaged


Hi all,
Sorry if I re-post, but the original message had no subject :-( 

I've just installed Mandrake 10.0 on my PC.
The system has two disks, on disk 1 I just left the original Windows Xp partition, on 
disk 2 (bigger and faster) I have freed some 11gb from XP with Partition Magic.

I've installed Mandrake 10.0 in expert mode, I got it to install in the free space, 
making two partitions: one of 10gb for '/' and a 1gb swap partition. Result after 
partitioning: 70GB NTFS - 10GB Ext3 - 1GB Swap

Installation went OK.

Now I can access with LILO both the XP installation and the Mandrake one and 
everything works fine.

The main problem I have is that if I launch Partition Magic from XP, PM shwos for disk 
2 with a single partition and says it is a damaged one. I suspect some partition 
overlap but I'm not sure on how to move

Any suggestion?

Thanks




Paolo Tavazzani
Fastweb S.p.A.
Via Caracciolo 51
20155 Milano
Phone:  +39 02 4545 4892
Mobile: +39 348 3673 626
Fax:+39 02 4545 4811
 Paolo Tavazzani (E-mail).vcf 



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Re: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 22 March 2004 08:54 am, Tavazzani Paolo wrote:

 The main problem I have is that if I launch Partition Magic from XP, PM
 shwos for disk 2 with a single partition and says it is a damaged one. I
 suspect some partition overlap but I'm not sure on how to move

The problem is with Partition Magic, I think that the newer versions may work 
better but from previous experience, the older versions don't work well with 
certain Linux partitions.  

If you really must use a Windows tool for partitions, you might consider 
getting Paragon Partition Manager.  It is a superior tool, IMHO, and will 
happily copy, format, move, extend all Linux partitions that I have ever run 
into including ReiserFS, EXT3, 2, etc.  It also will not report the erroneous 
error messages that you are currently seeing.
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Re: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Chuck Mattsen
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 09:01, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 If you really must use a Windows tool for partitions, you might consider 
 getting Paragon Partition Manager.  It is a superior tool, IMHO, and will 
 happily copy, format, move, extend all Linux partitions that I have ever run 
 into including ReiserFS, EXT3, 2, etc.  It also will not report the erroneous 
 error messages that you are currently seeing.

Hey, nice.  Partition Magic was groaning and complaining, wanting to
fix things (scary) when I tried to fire it up, but I bought gasp! a
copy of Paragon PM and it quickly did the NTFS resizing, etc., that
Partition Magic had been balking at; no errors, no complaints, and I'm
still here.  :)

Thx.
-- 
Chuck Mattsen ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Mahnomen, MN
Registered Linux User #346519


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Re: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Rick Kunath
Partition Magic (and the Windows partitioning tool) expect partitions to begin 
and end on cylinder boundaries. Both make sure this is the way the disks are 
physically partitioned. Linux has no such limitation, and this is probably 
the reason for the PM error.

Windows partitions will run just fine if not ended on a cylinder boundary, as 
Linux partitions do also. If you're looking for a good Windows partition 
utility, I wound up buying Paragon Hard Disk Manager (I've no affilliation 
with them, just a user), and have used the app on several occasions where PM 
failed to work. Once you get the error, you can't use PM, it will fail to 
start. I believe there are some free partitioning tools out there, Ranish 
partition manager comes to mind, but I haven't used it in years.

As was mentioned already in this thread, *do not* use PM to repair the 
non-error. If you do, you'll have a non-working Linux installation.

I believe the utility to access the Linux ext2 and ext3 file systems from 
Windows is still included with Paragon, if you have a need for such access.

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Re: [newbie] After installing 10.0 Partition Magic from XP says that the partition di damaged

2004-03-22 Thread Rick Kunath
 Are
 the XP utilities to fix MBR OK?


Yes, fixboot and fixmbr will do the trick, used from the recovery console, and 
restore the MBR.

After a Linux reinstall, just allow lilo to reinstall iteslf into the MBR as 
usual.

I don't think you really have a problem with your file system though. I am 
more inclined to believe that you have run up against the PM limitation I 
described earlier. PM is not a good tool to use along with other partitioning 
utilities. If you want to use PM, use it and no other utility to partition 
and format all of your partitions, then install Linux into these 
pre-partitioned locations.

I agree with other advice eariler in the thread, use some other utility 
without the limitation.

Rick Kunath

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