Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-15 Thread Rick Kunath
Thanks for the tips on the kernel install. 

I have installed them many times. 

What was curious about the behavior of Mandrake Update in this case is that 
unlike the behavior in the past, the kernel source was never shown in the 
update list. In the past, whenever a new bugfix kernel was released, the 
kernel source would show up in the updates list, prompting the user to 
install it, then follow that with the installation of the appropriate kernel 
as you described. The presence of the kernel source was always a good flag 
that new kernels were available for installation.

That didn't happen this time.

The other curious thing is that the comments section of the description of the 
kernels and kernel source (2.6.3-8) read not available. In the past, this 
section held a description of the kernel, and information as to the bugs 
corrected by the package. None of this information is there on these kernels. 

I'd like to know if these are valid kernels, were they released as bug fixes, 
and why they are described as unavailable. There is something strange about 
these kernel packages. 

Rick Kunath




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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-15 Thread Rory
On Thursday 15 April 2004 7:29 am, Rick Kunath wrote:
 Thanks for the tips on the kernel install.

 I have installed them many times.

 What was curious about the behavior of Mandrake Update in this case is that
 unlike the behavior in the past, the kernel source was never shown in the
 update list. In the past, whenever a new bugfix kernel was released, the
 kernel source would show up in the updates list, prompting the user to
 install it, then follow that with the installation of the appropriate
 kernel as you described. The presence of the kernel source was always a
 good flag that new kernels were available for installation.
 That didn't happen this time.

Interesting, Becasause yesterday, urpmi did prompt me to install 2.6.3-8mdk.  
So, I did, noting that people on this forum had said that you don't install 
kernals that way.  Everything seemed to go fine.  But now, I can't find 
2.6.3-8.  I don't know where it installed to and it hasn't appeared as an 
option in my boot configuration.  

Rory


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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 15 April 2004 14:21, Rory wrote:
 On Thursday 15 April 2004 7:29 am, Rick Kunath wrote:
  Thanks for the tips on the kernel install.
 
  I have installed them many times.
 
  What was curious about the behavior of Mandrake Update in this
  case is that unlike the behavior in the past, the kernel source
  was never shown in the update list. In the past, whenever a new
  bugfix kernel was released, the kernel source would show up in
  the updates list, prompting the user to install it, then follow
  that with the installation of the appropriate kernel as you
  described. The presence of the kernel source was always a good
  flag that new kernels were available for installation. That
  didn't happen this time.

 Interesting, Becasause yesterday, urpmi did prompt me to install
 2.6.3-8mdk. So, I did, noting that people on this forum had said
 that you don't install kernals that way.  Everything seemed to go
 fine.  But now, I can't find 2.6.3-8.  I don't know where it
 installed to and it hasn't appeared as an option in my boot
 configuration.

Rory, in a terminal, type uname -a or take a look inside the 
drectory /boot. Better yet, edit (as root) your /etc/lilo.conf 
where you can change the default line to your new kernel. Don't 
forget to run lilo when done.

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-15 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Thursday 15 April 2004 13:21, Rory wrote:
 On Thursday 15 April 2004 7:29 am, Rick Kunath wrote:
  Thanks for the tips on the kernel install.
 
  I have installed them many times.
 
  What was curious about the behavior of Mandrake Update in this case
  is that unlike the behavior in the past, the kernel source was
  never shown in the update list. In the past, whenever a new bugfix
  kernel was released, the kernel source would show up in the updates
  list, prompting the user to install it, then follow that with the
  installation of the appropriate kernel as you described. The
  presence of the kernel source was always a good flag that new
  kernels were available for installation. That didn't happen this
  time.

 Interesting, Becasause yesterday, urpmi did prompt me to install
 2.6.3-8mdk. So, I did, noting that people on this forum had said that
 you don't install kernals that way.  Everything seemed to go fine. 
 But now, I can't find 2.6.3-8.  I don't know where it installed to
 and it hasn't appeared as an option in my boot configuration.

 Rory

It may be that your 'linux' option has had its pointer changed to the 
new kernel, so you don't see it.  I think that's what happened when I 
installed an additional one.  You will probably find that /boot/vmlinuz 
and /boot/initrd are linked to the new one.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-15 Thread Rory
Here's the output.  No luck.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rory]# uname -a
Linux 192.168.0.3 2.6.3-4mdk #1 Tue Mar 2 07:26:13 CET 2004 i686 unknown 
unknown GNU/Linux

[EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# ls
boot.0200   initrd-2.6.3-4mdk.img  message-text
boot.0301   initrd-2.6.img@System.map@
config@ initrd.img@System.map-2.4.25-2mdk
config-2.4.25-2mdk  kernel.h@  System.map-2.6.3-4mdk
config-2.6.3-4mdk   kernel.h-2.4.25-2mdk   us.klt
diag1.img   kernel.h-2.6.3-4mdkvmlinuz@
diag2.img   mapvmlinuz-2.4.25-2mdk
grub/   message@   vmlinuz-2.6@
initrd-2.4.25-2mdk.img  message-graphicvmlinuz-2.6.3-4mdk

Yes, it did prompt me to install, I selected yes and it then urpmi went to 
work.

Hmm...



  Interesting, Becasause yesterday, urpmi did prompt me to install
  2.6.3-8mdk. So, I did, noting that people on this forum had said
  that you don't install kernals that way.  Everything seemed to go
  fine.  But now, I can't find 2.6.3-8.  I don't know where it
  installed to and it hasn't appeared as an option in my boot
  configuration.

 Rory, in a terminal, type uname -a or take a look inside the
 drectory /boot. Better yet, edit (as root) your /etc/lilo.conf
 where you can change the default line to your new kernel. Don't
 forget to run lilo when done.

 Kaj Haulrich.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-15 Thread Rick Kunath
I don't know where it installed to and it hasn't
 appeared as an option in my boot configuration.



Did you inspect your /etc/lilo.conf file to see if a stanza was added for the 
new kernel? 

Did you do a lilo -v (you don't need the -v option, but I like to see what's 
going on as the config is processed) from a terminal as root after installing 
the new kernel, to write the new lilo to disk?

If you didn't do the above, and a stanza was properly added to your lilo.conf 
file when you installed the kernel, that's why it didn't show up in your lilo 
list of installed kernels.

Rick


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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 15 April 2004 14:43, Rory wrote:
 Here's the output.  No luck.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] rory]# uname -a
 Linux 192.168.0.3 2.6.3-4mdk #1 Tue Mar 2 07:26:13 CET 2004 i686
 unknown unknown GNU/Linux

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# ls
 boot.0200   initrd-2.6.3-4mdk.img  message-text
 boot.0301   initrd-2.6.img@System.map@
 config@ initrd.img@   
 System.map-2.4.25-2mdk config-2.4.25-2mdk  kernel.h@ 
 System.map-2.6.3-4mdk config-2.6.3-4mdk  
 kernel.h-2.4.25-2mdk   us.klt
 diag1.img   kernel.h-2.6.3-4mdkvmlinuz@
 diag2.img   map   
 vmlinuz-2.4.25-2mdk grub/   message@ 
  vmlinuz-2.6@ initrd-2.4.25-2mdk.img  message-graphic   
 vmlinuz-2.6.3-4mdk

 Yes, it did prompt me to install, I selected yes and it then
 urpmi went to work.

Well, it seems the new kernel isn't installed. How did you try to 
install it ?  When I do it, I download the kernel into a directory, 
change into that directory and, as root, urpmi kernelblabla.rpm. 
When finished, I edit lilo.conf, run lilo, done. If everything then 
works, I urpme the old kernel to save some space.

Kaj Haulrich.



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[newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-14 Thread Rick Kunath
Why are the 2.6.3-8 kernel series present in the Proxad 10 official update 
directory, but are marked as not available in the comments section of 
Mandrake Update, though they are listed when doing a MCC update search?

The kernel source does not appear as either a bug update or a regular update 
in Mandrake Update.

It appears these are in the Update directory for 10, but are not available for 
installation for some reason.

Any ideas why?

Rick Kunath


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Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6.3-8 marked as not available in mirror?

2004-04-14 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 15 April 2004 01:06, Rick Kunath wrote:
 Why are the 2.6.3-8 kernel series present in the Proxad 10
 official update directory, but are marked as not available in
 the comments section of Mandrake Update, though they are listed
 when doing a MCC update search?

 The kernel source does not appear as either a bug update or a
 regular update in Mandrake Update.

 It appears these are in the Update directory for 10, but are not
 available for installation for some reason.

 Any ideas why?

 Rick Kunath

Kernels are not updated. They have to be installed. Here is 
how :

1. When in a browser, right-click the kernel-2.6.3-8blah..blahh.rpm 
and choose copy to /home/rick/somedirectorywhatever.
2. Change into that directory, open a terminal, su to root, give 
root password.
3. Type : urpmi kernel(and now hit TAB)
4. If the output from that shows your desired kernel version, hit 
enter.
5. Enjoy all the hashes.
6.When the command prompt shows again, you are done.
7. If you want the new kernel as default, edit your /etc/lilo.conf 
(by changing the the default line to the new version).
8. Don't forget to run lilo afterwards.

HTH
Kaj Haulrich.
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