Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
I had one of those too, You could add extra ram buy pluging it into the back. A whole 16 k On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: I remember the days of my Timex Sinclair T1000. A whopping 2k of ram. - Original Message - From: Sysadmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)] Wow, they taught us CPM in trade school, kind of reminded me of DOS, it had a C compiler to build the executables and such. We were trained on the old Z80 microprocessor. I also remember Centix, the old business unix then too. On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: Dating myself, but my first operating system was trsdos on a radio shack model I, back in those days the competition was between apple and trs-80. Rick Keep this up and I'll get my Amstrad 6128 out of the loft and start using CP/M again. John the Nadger http://www.goon.freeuk.com -- Normal=boring x 100 -- Boling's postulate: If you're feeling good, don't worry. You'll get over it.
Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
Wow, they taught us CPM in trade school, kind of reminded me of DOS, it had a C compiler to build the executables and such. You mean somebody taught you an OS?! The military taught us digital theory on circuts built with individual transistors in TO3 cans, but there wasn't any concept of "the operating system." The circuit just did whatever it was wired to do. (Nowadays that's called the microcode.) My first computer as a teenager was a plastic educational toy called "Digi-COMP I" which was programmed with drinking straws and had a mechanical clock you cycled by hand. MB
Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
Yes I remember. And then I moved over to the Commodore 64. - Original Message - From: Sysadmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)] A buddy of mine had an old Timex Sinclair, wow. do you remember the old Odyssey video game console? That was an 80's classic! On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: I remember the days of my Timex Sinclair T1000. A whopping 2k of ram. - Original Message - From: Sysadmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)] Wow, they taught us CPM in trade school, kind of reminded me of DOS, it had a C compiler to build the executables and such. We were trained on the old Z80 microprocessor. I also remember Centix, the old business unix then too. On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: Dating myself, but my first operating system was trsdos on a radio shack model I, back in those days the competition was between apple and trs-80. Rick Keep this up and I'll get my Amstrad 6128 out of the loft and start using CP/M again. John the Nadger http://www.goon.freeuk.com -- Normal=boring x 100 -- Normal=boring x 100
Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
I just got my L-M 6.0 configured with 2 NIC's the other day...after much reading and fiddling...etc...(read re-installs)I found the trick for me anyways. Depending on the NIC's...install the ISA jumpered FIRST, then a ISA/PCI PnP, although I recall reading somewhere that for can force Linux to try and detect 2 NIC's...but I don't remember the command or flags (perhaps someone can expand on that). HTH Jaguar James Mellema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The major reason I run Win2K now is I have been unable to use linux as a gateway to my cablemodem setup. (the other reason is I need to be familiar with it so I can work with my IT clients). After uncountable tries, and many thousands of pages of reading, I have been unable to get mandrake to recognize more that one ethernet card on my server. So, until I find the magic key I'm stuck with Windows at least for that particular function. snip Jim -- James Mellema, CRNA MA __ Linux User #71650 Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
I installed two nics in my mandrake 6.0 sometime back. I just stuck the second one in and fired up the machine, and it was recognized right off the bat. I haven't had to do anything other than 'turn it on' in netconf. One is a linksys and one is 3com, both are pci. There was no 'forceing' involved, it just worked. Maybe I got lucky?:-) Chip On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: I just got my L-M 6.0 configured with 2 NIC's the other day...after much reading and fiddling...etc...(read re-installs)I found the trick for me anyways. Depending on the NIC's...install the ISA jumpered FIRST, then a ISA/PCI PnP, although I recall reading somewhere that for can force Linux to try and detect 2 NIC's...but I don't remember the command or flags (perhaps someone can expand on that). HTH Jaguar James Mellema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The major reason I run Win2K now is I have been unable to use linux as a gateway to my cablemodem setup. (the other reason is I need to be familiar with it so I can work with my IT clients). After uncountable tries, and many thousands of pages of reading, I have been unable to get mandrake to recognize more that one ethernet card on my server. So, until I find the magic key I'm stuck with Windows at least for that particular function. snip Jim -- James Mellema, CRNA MA __ Linux User #71650 Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, Steve Philp wrote: Jaguar wrote: IMHO... Sorry I have to agree somewhat with Sam...after all, before Linux had a usable GUI...the only other choice of a workable OS WAS what ever flavor of Microshaft Windows was current. The Win 3.X and Win 9.X have been the staple You realize that the Linux GUI has been around since before WinNT was even a glimmer in Dave Cutler's eye, right? The X Window System is not something that was created for Linux, it predates it by quite a few years. Beyond that, it's amazing to see that people have been so thoroughly brainwashed by the Microsoft marketing train. Do you really believe that computing didn't exist prior to Microsoft Windows? Dating myself, but my first operating system was trsdos on a radio shack model I, back in those days the competition was between apple and trs-80. Rick -- "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB
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Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
IMHO... Sorry I have to agree somewhat with Sam...after all, before Linux had a usable GUI...the only other choice of a workable OS WAS what ever flavor of Microshaft Windows was current. The Win 3.X and Win 9.X have been the staple of mainstream PC user's for many years... BUT Win NT flavours have really ONLY been for Office/Network environs. Yes NT/2000 may be more stable than Win 9X but, also very $$ to keep current. As for me...I have played around with just about every version of Windows...from 2.X to 9.x, and a few NT versions, ALSO OS2/Warp, and now Linux. For all the bellyaching about M$ being a "virus", Bloatware, or whatever else you may call it...alot of you _STILL_ use Win9X on a dual boot...best bang for the buckhands down Linux, support/help available...Linux again. Anyway enuff ranting from me...just my 2 cents worth:) Jaguar "Lyndon Lininger Sr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam I agree with him. What are you doing in this group if you are in love with microcrap? - Original Message - From: Sam Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 1:37 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) Oh, everyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint is a "Microsoft plant?" No, I am just an Engineer who has used both since 1993. You're spreading crap and it's UN-professional as well as false. Have you used Windows NT? Have you used Windows 2000 for 6 months as I have? No? THEN DON'T MAKE STATEMENTS OUT OF YOUR BEHIND. I have told you the truth - I have been running for 6 months and instead you choose to believe myths instead of direct experience. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: mshirley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:49 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) What are you, a M$ plant? This is the wrong place to be espousing the value of M$ OS's! Besides, not everybody runs NT anyway. 95/98 DOES crash a lot. 2000 probably will too. -Original Message- From: Sam Gentile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:00 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Sam Gentile Subject: RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) I know this a joke but know what you are talking about before you speak - Windows 2000 is extremely stable and does not require reboots. I have been running it for almost 6 months now as my primary system including using huge server applications like SQL Server 7.0, and other things like Visual Studio 6.0, Borland's JBuilder and IT HAS NOT CRASHED ONCE. NO REBOOTS. The NT Team did an analysis of all situations in which re-boots are required in NT 4.0 and came up with 78 situations. All but three have been eliminated. Change TCP parameters? No reboots. So I would caution you to have experience with what you speak of or you just spreading around crap and FUD and that is un-professional. Sam Gentile Principal Software Engineer Viridien Team Leader toysmart.com 170 High Street Waltham, MA 02454 -Original Message- From: Jeanette Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor) Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
Jaguar wrote: IMHO... Sorry I have to agree somewhat with Sam...after all, before Linux had a usable GUI...the only other choice of a workable OS WAS what ever flavor of Microshaft Windows was current. The Win 3.X and Win 9.X have been the staple You realize that the Linux GUI has been around since before WinNT was even a glimmer in Dave Cutler's eye, right? The X Window System is not something that was created for Linux, it predates it by quite a few years. Beyond that, it's amazing to see that people have been so thoroughly brainwashed by the Microsoft marketing train. Do you really believe that computing didn't exist prior to Microsoft Windows? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]