Re: [NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt Switcher?
Hi Christopher, On Dec 11, 2003, at 11:16 AM, Christopher G. D. Tipper wrote: Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:27:34 +0100 From: Giuseppe Bilotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Switcher? Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not that I see the purpose of using Word in the frist place. Any decent editor has enough macro power to do the same. -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta You missed the point. You markup and style your document using Word styles, and then XML is a matter of search and replace. I am not interested in Word per se, but I find using emacs to insert markup during document creation gets in the way of my thought processes. This way I can push markup worries to the editorial stage. People are fond of pointing out Words vices, and I wouldn't quibble with arguments about its stability, but it is about time OpenOffice and its ilk stopped resting on their laurels and started implementing some macro capability. I notice that AbiWord has a DocBook output format, but how well integrated this is I don't know. On Micro$oft's part if they had some real competition a real market in third-party templates might arrive. As it stands I have a 50% solution that handles footnotes and lists, but re-distribution is hampered by the way Word handles its templates and virus worries. Theoretically I could do tables and limited image markup using the same techniques. Leveraging the visual layout tools of a word-processor makes so much sense I wonder at the mentality of people still struggling with text-editors. I have emacs set up on my machine, but it really looks like back to the future from my point of view. I use WinEdt when I'm booted into Windows. btw you can use the same technique to generate native Context markup. It needs hand-editting, but as a rough draft, this works fine for me, and I don't have to re-invent the wheel every time I have a new document. You're point is well taken. I once wrote a complete Windows Help system generator using Word Basic macros and nothing else. If fed correctly structured documents, the macros would mark up all topics for display, page browsing, cross references, context sensitivity and indexes. It would then call the compiler. It took about 40 minutes to markup and compile a help system equivalent to 400 pages of text, graphics and all, on 1993-era Windows machines. The macros could also clean the files and start over if major changes were needed in the text. It was a freebie and efficient alternative to RoboHelp. I have just lost too much work to Word-corrupt files and Word-crashed systems to continue with MS. TeXShop (Mac OS X) has never crashed or hung in 15 months of use. The files have never become corrupt. I am looking at Nisus, or perhaps the OS X native TextEdit, as visual editors for the reasons you applaud Word. They both write rtf natively. I'm also looking at TeX4ht with ConTeXt. For now, TeXShop, LaTeX and TeX4ht are more flexible and stable than Word. We'll see. :) Take care. BK ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Update failure: I'm losing my mind
Am Donnerstag, 11.12.03, um 15:08 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Gary Pajer: >> MiKTeX comes with a texexec.exe. Putting texexec.ini in the same >> directory >> doesn't do it either. >> Is there an environment variable that I can set to help texexec find >> its >> way? >> Or a command line switch? (I have not found mention of either in the >> docs) >> (Putting texexec.ini in the directory containing the ConTeXt .tex >> script >> works.) >What says "texexec --verbose"? C:\Documents and Settings\Gary Pajer\My Documents>texexec --verbose TeXExec 3.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003 current path : C:/Documents and Settings/Gary Pajer/My Documents locating ini file : not found by kpsewhich locating ini file : not found by searching locating ini file : no environment variable set locating ini file : not found in own path warning : texexec.ini not found, did you read 'texexec.rme'? It's really not finding it. The thing that surprises me is that no-one else has mentioned this. That's why I keep thinking that I've done something wrong. thanks, -gary ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] \setuphead question (long section lines not wrapping)
At 20:19 11/12/2003, you wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Hans Hagen wrote: > \startstandardmakeup >\startlocalfootnotes >Thanks \footnote{test} >\stoplocalfootnotes >\vfill \placelocalfootnotes > \stopstandardmakeup This works fine for separate titlepages, is there a similar technique for doing this when the title is on the first page of the text (see the attached dvi from my last message for an example)? I had tried using local footnotes during my experimentation the other day, but they always appeared between the title and the text, rather than below the first column of text, as is the norm. Again, this is a minor issue, as a combination of \high, \footnotetext, and \resetnumber work just fine as a quick hack... \title{test \footnote{test}} \section{test \footnote{test}} tets \footnote{test} \framed{\postponefootnotes test \footnote{test}} should work, but somehow the latest greatest multi note version messes up the postponed notes (they end up in a separate class) > \setuplabeltext[en][section={{},{.}},subsection={{},{.}}] > > should do that; i don't know why it does not break in your case Ah...thank you; this does work. Although I must say, I would *never* have gotten this from the documentation which treats \setuphead and it's command parameter as the way to control the appearance of sectioning titles, and never provides a backreference to \setuplabeltext, which is tucked away in the chapter on language specific issues. And even there, the documentation never comes close to describing the behavior shown it started as an experiment -) above. Thank goodness for the living breating documentation that this list provides then, eh? hm, this double label thing is needed for chinese (which introduced a few more interesting non documented features) anyhow, those few hours playing learned you read context source code -) Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Update failure: I'm losing my mind
Am Donnerstag, 11.12.03, um 15:08 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Gary Pajer: MiKTeX comes with a texexec.exe. Putting texexec.ini in the same directory doesn't do it either. Is there an environment variable that I can set to help texexec find its way? Or a command line switch? (I have not found mention of either in the docs) (Putting texexec.ini in the directory containing the ConTeXt .tex script works.) What says "texexec --verbose"? Grüßlis vom Hraban! -- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] \setuphead question (long section lines not wrapping)
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Hans Hagen wrote: > \startstandardmakeup >\startlocalfootnotes >Thanks \footnote{test} >\stoplocalfootnotes >\vfill \placelocalfootnotes > \stopstandardmakeup This works fine for separate titlepages, is there a similar technique for doing this when the title is on the first page of the text (see the attached dvi from my last message for an example)? I had tried using local footnotes during my experimentation the other day, but they always appeared between the title and the text, rather than below the first column of text, as is the norm. Again, this is a minor issue, as a combination of \high, \footnotetext, and \resetnumber work just fine as a quick hack... > \setuplabeltext[en][section={{},{.}},subsection={{},{.}}] > > should do that; i don't know why it does not break in your case Ah...thank you; this does work. Although I must say, I would *never* have gotten this from the documentation which treats \setuphead and it's command parameter as the way to control the appearance of sectioning titles, and never provides a backreference to \setuplabeltext, which is tucked away in the chapter on language specific issues. And even there, the documentation never comes close to describing the behavior shown above. Thank goodness for the living breating documentation that this list provides then, eh? Thank you again, William D. Neumann --- "Well I could be a genius, if I just put my mind to it. And I...I could do anything, if only I could get 'round to it. Oh we were brought up on the space-race, now they expect you to clean toilets. When you've seen how big the world is, how can you make do with this? If you want me, I'll be sleeping in - sleeping in throughout these glory days." -- Jarvis Cocker ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt Switcher?
> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:27:34 +0100 > From: Giuseppe Bilotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re[2]: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Switcher? > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Not that I see the purpose of using Word in the frist place. > Any decent editor has enough macro power to do the same. > > -- > Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta You missed the point. You markup and style your document using Word styles, and then XML is a matter of search and replace. I am not interested in Word per se, but I find using emacs to insert markup during document creation gets in the way of my thought processes. This way I can push markup worries to the editorial stage. People are fond of pointing out Words vices, and I wouldn't quibble with arguments about its stability, but it is about time OpenOffice and its ilk stopped resting on their laurels and started implementing some macro capability. I notice that AbiWord has a DocBook output format, but how well integrated this is I don't know. On Micro$oft's part if they had some real competition a real market in third-party templates might arrive. As it stands I have a 50% solution that handles footnotes and lists, but re-distribution is hampered by the way Word handles its templates and virus worries. Theoretically I could do tables and limited image markup using the same techniques. Leveraging the visual layout tools of a word-processor makes so much sense I wonder at the mentality of people still struggling with text-editors. I have emacs set up on my machine, but it really looks like back to the future from my point of view. I use WinEdt when I'm booted into Windows. btw you can use the same technique to generate native Context markup. It needs hand-editting, but as a rough draft, this works fine for me, and I don't have to re-invent the wheel every time I have a new document. Christopher ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] placefigure for Christmas
Hi Hans, as it comes close to Christmas I'd like to tell you my biggest wish: "placefigure[top,left], placefigure[bottom,right]" (see below) Isn't there something that you could cook up for this special occasion? Steffen Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 14:25 17/09/2003 +0200, you wrote: > > > What is needed is a kind of extension to placefigure[top] where figures > are *still* placed top/bottom but *also* are surrounded by text (right or > left). > > this is kind of impossible in tex since it works per paragraph and during > that it has no concept of crossing a page boundary; i presume that i can > cook up something for a controlled situation but it's far from trivial > > Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Active points on a ground plan (CD-ROM catalogue)
At 16:33 11/12/2003, you wrote: Hi, I'd like to make the CD-ROM catalogue (PDF) of an architectural exhibition in ConTeXt. In short the general idea is: - First you have a page with a map showing the locations of the different buildings. - Then you should point on location you are interested in and jump to the page where this particular building is described in detail. - Then again you should be able to jump back to the point (centered?) on the map where you have started. My main question now is: Is it possible in ConTeXt to locate/define on the map (one image) certain points/areas that will contain the links to respective the detail page? Ha, when i tried to locate that old code, i ran into a bug (\dosingleempty is less tolerant than 5 years ago), so first a patch: \unprotect \def\dodostartfigure[#1][#2][#3]#4\stopfigure {\doifelse\v!test\@@exoptie {\teststartfigure[#1][#2][#3]#4\teststopfigure \let\@@exhokjes\v!aan} {\let\@@exhokjes\v!uit}% \setvalue{\??ef\??ef#1}% {\def\next{\placestartfigure[#1][#2][#3]#4\placestopfigure}% \dosingleempty\next}% \doifundefined{#1}{\setvalue{#1}{\getexternalfigure{#1 \protect Now you can do things like: \setupinteraction [state=start] % \setupexternalfigures % [option=test] \startfigure[TheProces][work016a][factor=200] \referring (10.7,9.4) (4.3,2.3) [r:psfile] \referring (16.5,16.5) (4.3,2.3) [r:pdffile] \marking (10.7,9.4) (4.3,2.3) [m:psfile] \marking (16.5,16.5) (4.3,2.3) [m:pdffile] \stopfigure \starttext \title{Files} \placefigure {Whatever files we use.} {\TheProces} \title[r:psfile]{PostScrip Files} We're talking about PostScript files, see \in[m:psfile]! \title[r:pdffile]{PDF Files} We're talking about PDF files, see \in[m:pdffile]! \stoptext Uncommenting the test will provide you a suitable test bed. (Sorry for the bit oldfashioned code; it originates from the pre pdf time) Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Active points on a ground plan (CD-ROM catalogue)
Hi, I'd like to make the CD-ROM catalogue (PDF) of an architectural exhibition in ConTeXt. In short the general idea is: - First you have a page with a map showing the locations of the different buildings. - Then you should point on location you are interested in and jump to the page where this particular building is described in detail. - Then again you should be able to jump back to the point (centered?) on the map where you have started. My main question now is: Is it possible in ConTeXt to locate/define on the map (one image) certain points/areas that will contain the links to respective the detail page? Thank you, Steffen ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Update failure: I'm losing my mind
Thursday, December 11, 2003 Gary Pajer wrote: > Thanks, but that didn't work. I still have a nagging feeling that I'm > forgetting something simple. > MiKTeX comes with a texexec.exe. Putting texexec.ini in the same directory > doesn't do it either. First of all, don't use the ConTeXt package that comes with MikTeX. Simply don't. Remove it, if you have it uninstalled. You should only use the distributed cont-tmf.zip of PRAGMA, and use the Perl script texexec.pl in /localtexmf/context/perltk; and texexec.ini should stay there (and make sure you're running *that* texexec.pl) -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Update failure: I'm losing my mind
> Thursday, December 11, 2003 Gary Pajer wrote: > > > MiKTeX. > > > I've done this half a dozen times. This time it doesn't work. I feel > > stupid. What have I forgotten? > > > Things were working perfectly. I decide to update, so I download > > cont-tmf.zip to \localtexmf. Then I unzip, overwritting all the old files. > > Then I update the database either using mktexlsr or the MiKTeX options > > wizard. > > > But now texexec can't find texexec.ini. But it's there, in > > \localtexmf\context\config (as well as \texmf\context\config) > > > BTW, if I execute kpsewhich texexec.ini it returns without an error, but > > also with no information. Is that right? > > Yes, and that's the problem. Recent ConTeXts are too strongly > tied to fpTeX :\ > > One thing you can do: move your texexec.ini in the same folder > as texexec.pl Thanks, but that didn't work. I still have a nagging feeling that I'm forgetting something simple. MiKTeX comes with a texexec.exe. Putting texexec.ini in the same directory doesn't do it either. Is there an environment variable that I can set to help texexec find its way? Or a command line switch? (I have not found mention of either in the docs) (Putting texexec.ini in the directory containing the ConTeXt .tex script works.) -gary ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Converting Latex style files for use in Context
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Patrick Gundlach wrote: > > Hi Adam, > > > I have an ebnf grammar which I need to put in a context doc and have a > > specific style file (ebnf.sty). Is there an easy way to convert it > > for use in context. > > How should we know? I don't have ebnf.sty on my system so this is > probably not a well known package. If you provide some more > information (where the sty can be found, how an input looks like or > so) we might be able to help better. > Like all TeX related things you can find it in CTAN, exactly in http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex209/contrib/misc/ebnf.sty The file is old (1991) so i don't know if it would run with latex2e. The code is very sort, mainly it redefineas a description enviromment. I Think it wouldn't be very dificult define a new definition enviroment for ENNF Zunbeltz A> Patrick > -- > mon trainsistor j'adore > ___ > ntg-context mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: Converting Latex style files for use in Context
Hi Adam, > I have an ebnf grammar which I need to put in a context doc and have a > specific style file (ebnf.sty). Is there an easy way to convert it > for use in context. How should we know? I don't have ebnf.sty on my system so this is probably not a well known package. If you provide some more information (where the sty can be found, how an input looks like or so) we might be able to help better. Patrick -- mon trainsistor j'adore ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Update failure: I'm losing my mind
Thursday, December 11, 2003 Gary Pajer wrote: > MiKTeX. > I've done this half a dozen times. This time it doesn't work. I feel > stupid. What have I forgotten? > Things were working perfectly. I decide to update, so I download > cont-tmf.zip to \localtexmf. Then I unzip, overwritting all the old files. > Then I update the database either using mktexlsr or the MiKTeX options > wizard. > But now texexec can't find texexec.ini. But it's there, in > \localtexmf\context\config (as well as \texmf\context\config) > BTW, if I execute kpsewhich texexec.ini it returns without an error, but > also with no information. Is that right? Yes, and that's the problem. Recent ConTeXts are too strongly tied to fpTeX :\ One thing you can do: move your texexec.ini in the same folder as texexec.pl -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Converting Latex style files for use in Context
Hi all, I have an ebnf grammar which I need to put in a context doc and have a specific style file (ebnf.sty). Is there an easy way to convert it for use in context. Thanks Adam ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] \setuphead question (long section lines not wrapping)
At 22:58 10/12/2003, you wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Hans Hagen wrote: > hm, must be some kind of complex thing then, what is \thanks supposed to do? No, it's not complex at all, and the answer ended up being trivial. The \thanks command is essentially a footnote to be used in the title portion of an article (or book, etc.) -- the big problem I was having was that the footnote mark was appearing fine, but the footnote text was nowhere to be found -- this was solved once I found the essentially hiden \footnotetext command and used that to place the text where I wanted it. After that, I needed to figure out how to reset the footnote counter (which was a pretty minor problem to solve). \startstandardmakeup \startlocalfootnotes Thanks \footnote{test} \stoplocalfootnotes \vfill \placelocalfootnotes \stopstandardmakeup That's not doing what I need. What I need is for the section headings in the text of the article to look like {section number}. {section title} -- I was able to insert the "." between the number and the title easily enough, but my solution turned off line wrapping for the title. I've attached an example that shows both what I am trying to do, and how my solution fails (on page 2 of the accompanying dvi). \setuplabeltext[en][section={{},{.}},subsection={{},{.}}] should do that; i don't know why it does not break in your case Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Typesetting music in ConTeXt
Le 10 déc. 03, à 23:05, Henning Hraban Ramm a écrit : Am Mittwoch, 10.12.03, um 19:55 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Willi Egger: : 3 - some package or binding to Lilypond (for writing music/midi and : xml) That would be very-very nice. By the way, are there any plans to implement this feature (Lilypond binding) or, may be, some other ways to typeset music in ConTeXt? if i'd time i'd write a metapost based engine with regards to lilypond, it depends on how latex dependent things are Lilypond makes use of LaTeX only. Secondly be aware, that the software runs under Linux and under Cygwin. Hm, perhaps it would be possible to use some MusicTeX version? AFAIK that's based on PlainTeX and could be compatible I think there VERY much more work about lilypond that about Musi*TeX. Also Lilipond has a modern approch and has a very good (*TeX) documentation. From http://lilypond.org/web/about/faq.html Will run on my computer? LilyPond is written for Unix, so it should run on any modern Unix variant, including Linux/GNU and MacOS X. There is also a MS Windows port, which uses the Cygwin environment. About other format: We have the following requirements: • the format must use ASCII, • it must be concise enough to type by hand, • it must have a concise formal specification, • it must be expressive enough to support many types of notation and printed formats. We believe that none of the existing formats address all these requirements. For example, MusicXML cannot be typed by hand, DARMS is limited in its application, ABC has no strict formal definition, and NIFF is binary. Nevertheless, this does not restrict you for using those formats: there are filters that convert from various formats to .ly Also there is some converter from lilypond to xml So instead of Hans restarting a new Music Notation project, Hans should make lilypond team using Context instead of LaTeX ;-) Also I noted that : - Lilypond is NOT a TeX macro, it only seems to be a dedicated (powerfull) subset of TeX (but allow input of TeX macro) - Lilypond make use of TeX for page breaking and other stuff So How to use Lilypond with ConTeXt? 1 - use Lilypond as an independant tool for building short (less or equal to one page) as pdf figure and include them in context as external figure (that is the way I'll do, because I'm not clever enought to do much more :-) 2 - make Lilypond team understand how ConTeXt is much more interesting as automatic formatic tool for creating pdf than LaTeX is! 3 - Allow using lilypond inside ConTeXt with \startmusic \stopmusic I think this method would be much like typesetting chimical Hans has not to be developping a nex package, just using one that already exist Also I think Lilipond could interest much more people that the only short xTeX poeple user. But Lilipond in not as easy to install (to many LaTeX dependancy). So the Lilypond tead could be interested by the new future alternative ConTeXt-live CDROM distribution ;-) ConTeXt-live (alias LaTeX-3: the only "nothing to install" TeX based type system that allow to do : - Mathematical, - graphical (Metapost), - Chimical, - Musical hight quality pdf documentation or web based presentation!!! P.S. I don't (yet) use Lilypond, but I looked after some text based Music notation for my wife. I thought first to MusixTex (too eavy, too old) then the abc format (which could be import as ps/pdf figure), then I found that lilypond was closely related to TeX. So it's probably the choice I'll do. -- Maurice Diamantini ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Can I compare with someone?
Hi David, David Arnold schrieb: All, I've recently installed tetex 2.0.2. I am having difficulty with Metapost and I am wondering if I have a good installation. If someone else out there is running tetex 2.0.2, could you try the following on your system and tell me if you get similar results. Also, if I'm making some sort of silly mistake, please let me know. I have a little file named junk.mp. beginfig(1); path p; p:=fullcircle scaled 100pt; draw p; endfig; end. It compiles much as I expect. [EMAIL PROTECTED] darnold]$ mpost junk This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5) (junk.mp [1] ) 1 output file written: junk.1 Transcript written on junk.log. No problems. Now I add a line to junk.mp. beginfig(1); path p; p:=fullcircle scaled 100pt; draw p; label(btex $x$ etex, center p); endfig; end. Now, when I compile, texexec seems to be invoked. Is this what happens on your systems? Is this correct behavior? yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] darnold]$ mpost junk This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5) I now add another line to junk.mp. This is an attempt to get 10pt font size. beginfig(1); defaultscale:=10pt/fontsize defaultfont; defaultfont/defaultscale only affect labels set by metapost i.e. label("text",(0,0)); for the labels typeset by tex (btex ... etex) you can add to your mp-file: verbatimtex \setupbodyfont[10pt] etex; path p; p:=fullcircle scaled 100pt; draw p; label(btex $x$ etex, center p); endfig; end. I am at a loss at how to proceed. Is this a bug? Greetings Lutz ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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All, I've recently installed tetex 2.0.2. I am having difficulty with Metapost and I am wondering if I have a good installation. If someone else out there is running tetex 2.0.2, could you try the following on your system and tell me if you get similar results. Also, if I'm making some sort of silly mistake, please let me know. I have a little file named junk.mp. beginfig(1); path p; p:=fullcircle scaled 100pt; draw p; endfig; end. It compiles much as I expect. [EMAIL PROTECTED] darnold]$ mpost junk This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5) (junk.mp [1] ) 1 output file written: junk.1 Transcript written on junk.log. No problems. Now I add a line to junk.mp. beginfig(1); path p; p:=fullcircle scaled 100pt; draw p; label(btex $x$ etex, center p); endfig; end. Now, when I compile, texexec seems to be invoked. Is this what happens on your systems? Is this correct behavior? [EMAIL PROTECTED] darnold]$ mpost junk This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5) (junk.mp TeXExec 4.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003 metapost to tex : junk executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : tmpgraph output : dvips interface : en options : once nomp current mode : none This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./tmpgraph.tex{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} ConTeXt ver: 2003.9.25 fmt: 2003.12.10 int: english mes: english language : language en is active system : cont-new loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems: beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! ) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading: Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading: Context File Synonyms ) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns 2:2-en-2 3:2-uk-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2 7:2-it-2 8:2-nl-2 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : tmpgraph.top loaded (./tmpgraph.top specials : loading definition file dvi (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-dvi.tex ) specials : tex loaded specials : loading definition file ps (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-ps.tex) specials : tex,postscript loaded specials : loading definition file tr (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tr.tex) specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded ) pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map [1.1] systems: end file tmpgraph at line 3 ) Output written on tmpgraph.dvi (1 page, 192 bytes). Transcript written on tmpgraph.log. return code : 0 run time : 0 seconds dvi to metapost : junk metapost : junk format : metafun This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5) (junk.mp [1] metafun 2003-12-10 14:21 ) 1 output file written: junk.1 Transcript written on junk.log. total run time : 0 seconds [1] ) 1 output file written: junk.1 Transcript written on junk.log. I now add another line to junk.mp. This is an attempt to get 10pt font size. beginfig(1); defaultscale:=10pt/fontsize defaultfont; path p; p:=fullcircle scaled 100pt; draw p; label(btex $x$ etex, center p); endfig; end. But when I compile, I still get 12pt. And the culprit seems to be: bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded I tried the following workaround by editing junk.mp. But, mpost junk produces this error message: ! Undefined control sequence. l.1 \documentclass [10pt]{article} So, I try: mpost --tex=latex junk But now my system tries to build cont-en.fmt. Toward the end, one message I get is: Sorry, I can't find the format `cont-en.fmt'; will try `context.fmt'. But this doesn't make sense, as cont-en.efmt is already built. [EMAIL PROTECTED] darnold]$ ll /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/*.efmt -rw-r--r--1 root root 4713749 Dec 10 14:22 /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/cont-en.efmt -rw-r--r--1 root root 4760442 Dec 9 07:38 /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/cont-nl.efmt -rw-r--r--1 root root 756368 Dec 10 14:21 /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/elatex.efmt -rw-r--r--1 root root 278813 Dec 10 14:21 /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/etex.efmt -rw-r--r--1 root root 226652 Dec 10 14:22 /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/mptopdf.efmt -rw-r--r--1 root root 765252 Dec 10 14:21 /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/pdfelatex.efmt -rw-r--r--1 root root 288178 Dec 10 14:21 /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/pdfetex.efmt I am at a loss at how to proceed. Is this a bug?