RE: [ozmidwifery] NATIONAL HOME BIRTH AWARENESS WEEK
Hi Jan and All, Just want to wish everyone involved in keeping the homebirth movement alive all the best for national homebirth awareness week. Last week we had a family evening watching the homebirth video of my second son and I was able to relive the amazing memories of that experience. Peace, calm, no fear, no being told what to do such a lack of fear which seems to permeate so much of birthing elsewhere today. My 7 year old son, the one who was being born in the video, wanted to know why he wasnt wearing any clothes when he was born and we had a big laugh about trying to get a nappy inside the womb. To my boys its normal and I think theyre quite proud to be the only boys at school who were born at home. Youre doing an amazing job and its something worth persevering and fighting for. One day gentle birth will predominate and the struggles of this current time will have been worth all the work. Keep up your amazing work, homebirthing women and men! Love from Karen in Townsville From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Jan Robinson Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 9:42 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] NATIONAL HOME BIRTH AWARENESS WEEK To all ASIM members and any midwives who have been involved in home births Call your clients this week and tell them how much you value their support Pop in with a cake to see some house-bound mother with little children Keep the good-will going Have a wonderful week spreading the good word about home births The more you give - the more you'll get Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
[ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour
Dear List, Im a birth educator and prenatal yoga teacher in Townsville. I hope these questions are appropriate for this list and would appreciate information from you: Induction. Andreas Preparing for Birth:Mothers book and the wall poster on cascade of intervention states that induction increases the risks of further intervention and ultimately caesarean, and thats what Ive always taught in my Active Birth classes. However, when challenged for statistics by a client in a recent workshop, I looked up Enkin, Kierse etc. who stated that induction does not increase the risk of caesareans, recommending that induction is recommended soon after a women passes her EDD. Can anyone clear this up for me? Third stage of labour. I was under the belief that if active management of third stage was chosen, the cord had to be clamped and cut quickly to avoid an over-transfusion of blood from the placenta into the baby. However, an OB recently told a client of mine that even if she had a Synto injection, the cord could be left until it stopped pulsing. Ive checked Myles textbook for midwives but its not clear on this. I appreciate your support. Best wishes, Karen Shlegeris in Townsville
RE: [ozmidwifery] another induction
I can imagine this would create problems due to logistics, because our OBs are so busy already. One yoga student of mine planned her active birth/VBAC with her OB extensively, then when she went a few days past due date he told her that he was sure she'd go into labour the following weekend when he wasn't on call. He told her that he didn't believe the on-call OB would support her desire for an active birth and that she'd be likely to end up with another caesarean, so she was convinced to have an induction by ARM and Synto (as her cervix was already soft). Luckily, all went well - she had a short labour and gave birth to her baby vaginally. She's very happy with the result and feels quite empowered. But what a sorry situation that is!! Karen in Townsville -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2005 7:05 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] another induction What is wrong with the Ob asking the covering ob to see all his women for one visit? Then the woman would have at least met the doctor who might be on when hers is away. In W.A. Homebirth midwives usually have a backup midwife who both covers her but also attends as second midwife at the birth. MM Honey wrote: what about the Private OB's who have every second weekend off (or only work every one in 3 weekends) and their backup OB covers, you go into labour on the weekend turn up and here is an OB you have never met before. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth
Hi, During my second labour at home I said ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow all the way through each contraction, as if to let everyone know that I was feeling something very strong, which I don't describe as pain, and boy it helped just to verbalise it. No-one even seemed to notice, in fact it probably indicated to the midwife what was happening and how far along I was. I encourage the women in my classes to find a noise and go with it! We even practice roaring and moaning out loud - it makes them all laugh and really lifts their spirits. Hope the hospital midwives support them in their noise on the day! Best wishes, Karen in Townsville -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Meaghan Moon Sent: Monday, 15 August 2005 2:38 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth I am very late in on this thread and haven't read all of the e-mails on the topic. I like mooing. In Canada, I talk to mums about bellowing like a moose. Roaring is also good. Had a mum recently who was a real roarer, and in fact explained to her 5 year old that she was having a good time roaring just like a lion, so it was all O.K. He seemed to be reassured by this, even though we had heard him fall out of bed when he was woken by her belly roars! Meaghan At 10:21 PM 8/13/05, you wrote: Dear Andrea and Miriam I love your emails and am mooing myself happily Again it shows the wonderfull instintcs women have I have not been with women who have mooed but from my time with homebirth midwives and then clients and also in my singing for non singers course I learnt that deep noises rather than high pitch ones (screams0 are the ones to encourage as they send the energy down into your abdomen and then to the uterus and baby whereas the high pitched looses energy out of the body through the head Mooing is a low pitch noise!! Where I did my mid in the UK the maternity unit was out the back of the hospital and overlooked pastures with cows and I remember saying to the women we humans need to reconnenct with nature to nurture and now birth our young!! Denise Hynd Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled. - Linda Hes - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth Sorry for the late input on this, have been cruising the South Pacific with my family, but am catching up on many emails now...don't feel too sorry for me! Ah Miriam, you have such a way with words! I too was beckoned as a student midwife only a few years ago to join in and feel the love with a woman who could only be described as mooing, and it was a very connecting experience for us both. It also meant that the supervising midwife, who was obviously not at all comfortable with birthing noises (funny that, how she was very comfortable with cleaning noises, people barging in to look at charts noises...) kept her distance and just let 'us'go for it! I myself moaned and groaned and then growled my way through 18 hours of labour first time around, and there are shadows of the school kids walking past the bathroom window on the video just before Sam is born! I still wonder why no-one knocked on the front door to see what was going on in there! A friend who has recently had her first homebirth after several hospital births has commented on how she thought she was a quiet birther, but then after birthing at home, realized that she did indeed feel restricted in the hospital, and that she now thinks that she was aware of feeling like her midwives would judge her if she was too vocal in the hospital. Interesting stuff. Tania x -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.8/71 - Release Date: 12/08/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Sacred space
Hello list There is a lot of talent out there and I wonder if I could tap into it? I have been asked to teach midwives about respecting the sacred space. So many think its their right as an employee to walk in and out of birthing rooms with only a cursory knock before they barge in...drives me insane...anyway I recently read somewhere of a teaching excercise where the participants write down a secret that no-one else knows about them and put it in an envelope. The envelopes are then collected and the teacher carries on with other things before then asking the class about their anxiety levels re having their secrets made vulnerable. The purpose is to demonstrate how powerful that vulnerability is when you don't know what's going to happen next or what the person in power is going to doto you. I can't remember where I saw this or if this is completely correct. Has anyone used this successfully? Has anyone any innovative ideas on how to teach the importance of respecting the sacred space meaningfully? Regards, Karen Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location
Hi Kirsten My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I would really appreciate any info. We've never been to Oz, so it's really a blind move for us and the more we can learn from people actually there, the better and the easier it will be for us when we move out there. Thanks Kind Regards Karen X X X X X X X X - Original Message - From: Kirsten Blacker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location Karen what is your email, we can talk about this off list Kirsten Blacker Perth - Original Message - From: Karen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 3:01 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location Dear Everyone As I am hoping to get a job in a hospital in Perth, can anyone help us with suitable areas to bring up a family but within easy travelling distance to Perth for work, easy = 30-40 minute drive at the most. I have three children (ages 12, 9 and3). We would ideally like an area that is not very large and busy. Perhaps in the country but not isolated. There has to be easy access to good schooling. We do like older properties with a bit of character but this not essential. The kids of course just want to rent a property with a swimming pool!! Is this a really tall order? I hope we're not looking for the impossible. We hope to move out later on this year and ideally we would like to get a property that we'd be happy to settle in for a while (or at least until my work visa runs out) We spend ages on the net looking, but there is just so much to look at. Fremantle area looks nice, is it? If anyone can gives me any pointers on nice areas or even areas best avoided I would really appreciate any advice, we can hardly wait to move out to OZ !!! Kind Regards Karen Crossan
Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location
In reply to Debbie Slater's email HI Debbie My email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . It is great to talk with someone who has already done the "impossible" and moved out there. Are you happy? It's such a humungous step and to move to an area we've never even seen, everyone thinks we're mental. Are your children happy and settled? You worry about the kids more than anything,ours are Becks 12, Mary 9 and Archie 3. I really would appreciate any info on nice areas tolive, schooling,cost of living, in fact anything you think would proveuseful then please send it. Thanks Kind Regards Karen X X X X X X X X - Original Message - From: Debbie Slater To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location Karen We emigrated to Perth just over 3 years ago. Fremantle is nice, but not my cup of tea, personally. I live in the Western suburbs about 5 mins from the beach. Many 'poms' find themselves in the Northern suburbs which is about a 40 min drive max from the central business district in the 'rush hour'. Obviously the further from the centre, the cheaper the housing. Our first priority was to find the kids a school and then we rented and the bought near the school. Please email me offlist and I will be more than happy to help you with anything I can. Bet wishes Debbie Slater Perth, WA - Original Message - From: Karen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 11:01 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE: Location, location, location Dear Everyone As I am hoping to get a job in a hospital in Perth, can anyone help us with suitable areas to bring up a family but within easy travelling distance to Perth for work, easy = 30-40 minute drive at the most. I have three children (ages 12, 9 and3). We would ideally like an area that is not very large and busy. Perhaps in the country but not isolated. There has to be easy access to good schooling. We do like older properties with a bit of character but this not essential. The kids of course just want to rent a property with a swimming pool!! Is this a really tall order? I hope we're not looking for the impossible. We hope to move out later on this year and ideally we would like to get a property that we'd be happy to settle in for a while (or at least until my work visa runs out) We spend ages on the net looking, but there is just so much to look at. Fremantle area looks nice, is it? If anyone can gives me any pointers on nice areas or even areas best avoided I would really appreciate any advice, we can hardly wait to move out to OZ !!! Kind Regards Karen Crossan
[ozmidwifery] RE: Drugs and Pregnancy
Hi I currently work as a Drug Specialist Midwife or Drug Liaison Midwife her in the UK. Primarily I plan and implement all the care for women who are pregnant and also misusing substances, mainly illicit but alcohol also comes under my remit. I also have a major educational role, for colleagues, other health care workers and the clients and their families. My husband, 3 children and I are all planning our relocation to Oz, hopefully this Summer, probably Perth direction "ish", certainly Western Australia. I really wanted to ask if substance misuse in pregnancy is a problem as I would love to gain employment staying in my speciality. I am prepared to work as a midwife or a nurse, though midwifery is well and truly my first love. I would really appreciate any info on this topic, I'm not sure how this ozmidwifery exactly works, but I guess I'll just watch this space... Thanks to anyone who sends a reply!! Kind Regards Karen J Crossan
[ozmidwifery] Evening Primrose oil
Hi all, Just a query, can anyone tell me whether you have heard of evening primrose oil being used vaginally to help bring on labour? If so, how much, how often etc etc??? Many thanks Cheers Karen -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] The Panel
Congratulations to Kate Langbrook who tonight fed her 5 week old baby live on television. Rather than fit her child in around her work commitments she proved that demand feeding is just that. Karen
RE: [ozmidwifery] National Register of ALL Independent Childbirth Educators (NICE)
Julie, Great idea, I know you already have some of my pamphlets, but here are my details again just in case. As below. Karen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie Clarke Sent: Monday, 14 July 2003 2:28 PM To: Ozmidwifery Mailing List Subject: [ozmidwifery] National Register of ALL Independent Childbirth Educators (NICE) Hi everyone Every now and then, I will be asked to refer someone to another Independent Educator somewhere in Australia and I am often unable to help simply because there does not seem to be a register of Independent Educators anywhere. So I thought lets do it lets pull the information together so that anytime I am asked I can readily refer. I am currently working on developing a list of all Independent Childbirth Educators in Australia and might look at getting it printed professionally J to make available for distribution. If you are an independent childbirth educator who would like to be added to the list then please send your details to me for inclusion. (On the other hand, if you know someone who would like to be on the list then please forward this email to them). Name: Karen Cole Address: 2 Crowther Place, Tarrawanna, NSW 2518 Telephone: 0418 292 169 Facsimile: Mobile: Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Details of Independent Childbirth Education Classes offered: Preconception, Early Pregnancy, Birth Parenting, Multiple Birth, all available as individual or as group. The region of area you would describe as your catchment area and the hospitals in that catchment. Based in Wollongong, cater primarily for those attending Wollongong and Illawarra Private Hospitals as well as those travelling to Sydney hospitals for their birth. I hope you can all help me Of course I will let you know when its complete and make it available to you. I will call this list: NICE 2003 - National Independent Childbirth Educators 2003. How funky is that, eh? hug Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 Fax: (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 Catchment: St George and Sutherland Shire Region in the South Eastern Sydney.
RE: [ozmidwifery] educating the community
I can't remember what song it was exactly - Bette Midler, I think. I saw it at the Down to Earth Homebirth conference in Katoomba in March this year. Same effect - everyone balling withing the first 2 minutes Karen -Original Message- From: Julie Clarke [mailto:Pregnancy;bigpond.com] Sent: Monday, 28 October 2002 4:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] educating the community Karen were you referring to the video presented at the NACE Conference at Qld a couple of years ago ? With the Roberta Flack song The first time ever I saw your face as background music ? That's the first video of Nic's that I have seen and I don't think there was a dry eye in the room - educators were reaching for tissues everywhere. Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 F (02) 9544 9257 M. 0401 265 530 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery;acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Karen Arthur Sent: Monday, 28 October 2002 7:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] educating the community Hi everyone, Nic's videos have my vote as well. When I first saw the images of the first one she did, I thought that we needed the general public to see these, and then they'd understand what we're trying to say. A picture tells a thousand words. Have a great day Karen -Original Message- From: Jennifer Semple [mailto:jennifer.semple1;students.vu.edu.au] Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2002 7:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] educating the community I think those CPA ads are really effective too. if you have a really good ad that people actually like to see, I think one ad is just as effective as 3 different ones. An ad for midwifery is a GREAT idea... ofcourse I have NO IDEA how much ad space/time costs... but EVERYONE loves to look at babies. Nic Edmonstone's videos are so powerful... radiating beauty, emotion, love... she would be able to get to the heart of it in 10 seconds or however much time an ads is. Anyway, just my two cents. Cheers, Jen - Original Message - From: Jan Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, October 27, 2002 7:35 am Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] educating the community Hi list I couldn't agree with Robyn and Julie more about TV coverage but participation in a regular show would take yet another one of us away from our lifelong passion of childbirth. We would needs lottsa moola to pay for a well known personality to front up for us on a weekly basis. We could get together and make a TV advert to be shown on prime time when most of the younger thinking women take time out to watch the news or follow-on shows. This is how the CPAs did so well in establishing themselves in the Australian community. Also remember the series of ads the GPs put on a few years ago in response to the alternative practitionerstaking away much of their business? They were very effective.Another possibility to target is the ABC late affternoon shows put on to educate kids. We definitely need a follow on from NMAP while the public still remember it. Perhaps we could fundraise through the College, ASIM and NACE to produce two or three smash-hit ads that would create huge interest in seeking out one-to-one midwifery care. Another alternative is to convince some budding film makers (anyone got one amongst their clients?) to put some time and energy into making such an AD at reduced rates. It literally costs thousands of $$$ to produce a halfminute ad for TV. Once we own the ad. we could make copies and show them at every childbirtheducation class across the country ... Especially Choices for Childbirth evenings that are being run by MC supporters. Jan On 23/10/02 12:52 PM, Robyn Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe we should develop a dossier with all the current facts and research extracts that we all carry when spreading the word A NMAP DOSSIER that means we are all spreading the same world with the latest facts. If we all contribute someone like me or others maybe able to compile it and update it. It could go to anyone on the Planet it would united and factual the message strong and concise. In agreeance with a National TV Programme that teaches practical information weekly would be good. Something to replace the Soapies. I go into many homes every week and the families are almost always watching the soapies often they don't turn it off during our 1 to 2 hour consultation. At times I have to ask for the volume to be turned down. If only we had a National dynamic programme for FAmilies, students, on pregnancy, birth breastfeeding and lot's more!! How many people might we reach? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner
RE: [ozmidwifery] educating the community
That's the one! I incorrectly assumed it was their first. Kind regards Karen -Original Message- From: Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood [mailto:tandt;bigpond.com] Sent: Monday, 28 October 2002 9:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] educating the community I think you're thinking of the wonderful work Vicki and Nic have done with the song from a distance by Bette Midler. We were lucky enough to have a couple of our birth photos included in that piece, and yep, gets me going just thinking about it. Tania x - Original Message - From: Karen Arthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 7:05 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] educating the community I can't remember what song it was exactly - Bette Midler, I think. I saw it at the Down to Earth Homebirth conference in Katoomba in March this year. Same effect - everyone balling withing the first 2 minutes Karen -Original Message- From: Julie Clarke [mailto:Pregnancy;bigpond.com] Sent: Monday, 28 October 2002 4:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] educating the community Karen were you referring to the video presented at the NACE Conference at Qld a couple of years ago ? With the Roberta Flack song The first time ever I saw your face as background music ? That's the first video of Nic's that I have seen and I don't think there was a dry eye in the room - educators were reaching for tissues everywhere. Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 F (02) 9544 9257 M. 0401 265 530 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery;acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Karen Arthur Sent: Monday, 28 October 2002 7:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] educating the community Hi everyone, Nic's videos have my vote as well. When I first saw the images of the first one she did, I thought that we needed the general public to see these, and then they'd understand what we're trying to say. A picture tells a thousand words. Have a great day Karen -Original Message- From: Jennifer Semple [mailto:jennifer.semple1;students.vu.edu.au] Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2002 7:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] educating the community I think those CPA ads are really effective too. if you have a really good ad that people actually like to see, I think one ad is just as effective as 3 different ones. An ad for midwifery is a GREAT idea... ofcourse I have NO IDEA how much ad space/time costs... but EVERYONE loves to look at babies. Nic Edmonstone's videos are so powerful... radiating beauty, emotion, love... she would be able to get to the heart of it in 10 seconds or however much time an ads is. Anyway, just my two cents. Cheers, Jen - Original Message - From: Jan Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, October 27, 2002 7:35 am Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] educating the community Hi list I couldn't agree with Robyn and Julie more about TV coverage but participation in a regular show would take yet another one of us away from our lifelong passion of childbirth. We would needs lottsa moola to pay for a well known personality to front up for us on a weekly basis. We could get together and make a TV advert to be shown on prime time when most of the younger thinking women take time out to watch the news or follow-on shows. This is how the CPAs did so well in establishing themselves in the Australian community. Also remember the series of ads the GPs put on a few years ago in response to the alternative practitionerstaking away much of their business? They were very effective.Another possibility to target is the ABC late affternoon shows put on to educate kids. We definitely need a follow on from NMAP while the public still remember it. Perhaps we could fundraise through the College, ASIM and NACE to produce two or three smash-hit ads that would create huge interest in seeking out one-to-one midwifery care. Another alternative is to convince some budding film makers (anyone got one amongst their clients?) to put some time and energy into making such an AD at reduced rates. It literally costs thousands of $$$ to produce a halfminute ad for TV. Once we own the ad. we could make copies and show them at every childbirtheducation class across the country ... Especially Choices for Childbirth evenings that are being run by MC supporters. Jan On 23/10/02 12:52 PM, Robyn Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe we should develop a dossier with all the current facts and research extracts that we all carry when spreading the word A NMAP DOSSIER that means we are all spreading the same world with the latest facts. If we all contribute someone like me or others maybe able to compile it and update it. It could go to anyone
RE: [ozmidwifery] educating the community
Hi everyone, Nic's videos have my vote as well. When I first saw the images of the first one she did, I thought that we needed the general public to see these, and then they'd understand what we're trying to say. A picture tells a thousand words. Have a great day Karen -Original Message- From: Jennifer Semple [mailto:jennifer.semple1;students.vu.edu.au] Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2002 7:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] educating the community I think those CPA ads are really effective too. if you have a really good ad that people actually like to see, I think one ad is just as effective as 3 different ones. An ad for midwifery is a GREAT idea... ofcourse I have NO IDEA how much ad space/time costs... but EVERYONE loves to look at babies. Nic Edmonstone's videos are so powerful... radiating beauty, emotion, love... she would be able to get to the heart of it in 10 seconds or however much time an ads is. Anyway, just my two cents. Cheers, Jen - Original Message - From: Jan Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, October 27, 2002 7:35 am Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] educating the community Hi list I couldn't agree with Robyn and Julie more about TV coverage but participation in a regular show would take yet another one of us away from our lifelong passion of childbirth. We would needs lottsa moola to pay for a well known personality to front up for us on a weekly basis. We could get together and make a TV advert to be shown on prime time when most of the younger thinking women take time out to watch the news or follow-on shows. This is how the CPAs did so well in establishing themselves in the Australian community. Also remember the series of ads the GPs put on a few years ago in response to the alternative practitionerstaking away much of their business? They were very effective.Another possibility to target is the ABC late affternoon shows put on to educate kids. We definitely need a follow on from NMAP while the public still remember it. Perhaps we could fundraise through the College, ASIM and NACE to produce two or three smash-hit ads that would create huge interest in seeking out one-to-one midwifery care. Another alternative is to convince some budding film makers (anyone got one amongst their clients?) to put some time and energy into making such an AD at reduced rates. It literally costs thousands of $$$ to produce a halfminute ad for TV. Once we own the ad. we could make copies and show them at every childbirtheducation class across the country ... Especially Choices for Childbirth evenings that are being run by MC supporters. Jan On 23/10/02 12:52 PM, Robyn Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe we should develop a dossier with all the current facts and research extracts that we all carry when spreading the word A NMAP DOSSIER that means we are all spreading the same world with the latest facts. If we all contribute someone like me or others maybe able to compile it and update it. It could go to anyone on the Planet it would united and factual the message strong and concise. In agreeance with a National TV Programme that teaches practical information weekly would be good. Something to replace the Soapies. I go into many homes every week and the families are almost always watching the soapies often they don't turn it off during our 1 to 2 hour consultation. At times I have to ask for the volume to be turned down. If only we had a National dynamic programme for FAmilies, students, on pregnancy, birth breastfeeding and lot's more!! How many people might we reach? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery;acegraphics.com.au]On Behalf Of Julie Clarke Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 6:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] educating the community Hi all Denise's suggestion to use TV as an effective medium for educating the public is certainly something I agree with, and I hope that somewhere someone is working on a script. In the meantime in my everyday life I talk to anyone and everyone about normal childbirth and Australia's uniquely abnormal system compared to other countries. Yesterday I was attending a course Certificate V Workplace Training and I was able to get in the topic on several occasions. (a) one of the other participants was 5 months pregnant :-) golden opportunity ! She is booked in to a private hospital. I was able to explain the intervention rates at private hospitals and other options she might like to consider. :-) (b) the trainer was of Dutch descent. So I praised her country of origin and informed her of the nature of maternity services, the safety etc She was surprised and totally unaware of the extent of homebirth in her country and the safe outcomes
[ozmidwifery] RE:
-Original Message-From: J Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, 14 October 2002 5:57 PMTo: ozmidCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: dear All, I am happy, stoked, proud, thrilled and woohoo-ed to announce that today saw the arrival of a baby, which coinsided with me assisting at my very first live birth! i rushed to the hospital at 3am this morning and at 12.40 in the afternoon mr 9.5pounds reared his [HUGE] head!! i cried! i was able to get really envolved, it was amazing! mum was EXCELLENT! 13hrs of labour, strong contractions and using only the gas.however, her dialation seemed to halt around 9cm which was frustrating. but to cut a long story short, the big beautiful head was born then within minutes the even bigger shoulders then he was here! im suprised you didnt all hear me singing and dancing around with joy! mum and bub are fine, student midwife dancing around the room like a crazy person! just had to share! take care!! love [a delirious] Jess
RE: [ozmidwifery] Placenta and post natal depression
Hi Veronica A couple of months ago Triple J did a segment on eating the placenta and interviewed a couple of women who told of the many benefits - including (if memory serves me correctly) reducing the risk of PND.The Triple J website may have the interview details. It was onthe last Tuesday in August. Good luck! Karen -Original Message-From: Veronica Herbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, 12 October 2002 8:57 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Placenta and post natal depression Hello List, I am doing a research proposal around the topic of eating placenta and post natal depression and am having some trouble finding research on this topic. Does anyone know of any that is out there?? thanks Veronica Herbert (Midwifery Student,University of Ballarat)
RE: [ozmidwifery] virus alert - DO NOT OPEN BIRTH STORY?
Yes - do not open "birth story?" - I did not send it. You will notice the attachment symbol- these shouldn't be openedin any case. My virus softwear picked up a few infected files yesterday andI havedisposed of themappropriately. Karen Arthur -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, 4 October 2002 1:05 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] virus alertDeniseApparently the bugbear worm uses the address book of an infected computer to send itself out, so the attachment will look as if it's come from person A, when it has really sent out from person B. E.g. B has the email address of A in its address book. Bugbear sends out emails, with the worm attached, to all people in B's address book, as if sent from A (rather than B). So Denise, you may not have had the worm in the first place.Clear? Probably as mud :-)Debbie SlaterPerth, WA
RE: [ozmidwifery] petition
Yep, if I had no other choice I would birth at home, unassisted. Hubby would never agree to that one - just as well we've stopped having kids! Karen -Original Message-From: Rhonda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Sunday, 29 September 2002 11:08 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] petition "reducing the options for women will in fact make them see home birth as a greater alternative (although we don't think this as a bad thing) but we have said that with the currentcrisis with mw insurance that women will try and birth at home unattended (not likely to happen) but the hospital wouldn't want to be associated with this situation." I don't think you are that far out - if put in the possition where I did not have access to a mw and or birth center - my only option would be to go through the hospital care and then birth at home unattended. Would probably say - Oh - didn't make it in time or something like that. I know other women who would do the same thing too. As time goes on this is likely to become a more common alternative. How many of the births at home who claim not to make it to the hospital are actually "unattended home births." Makes you wonder doesn't it. Rhonda. NB: It seems to me to be highlyimportant not to close the options of women who have had a c/s as they are probably more in need of support and open options or what will happen is either they will birth at home / assisted or unassisted or they will stop. I know many women with one child who are too scared to have a second because they had a c/s. Obs are putting themselves out of work! The birth rate is dropping instead of increasing - probably due to fear of the knife and obstetric intervention. As far as I can see anyway. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
RE: [ozmidwifery] Poster...for better birth!
Title: Message Vicki Please send me an attachment as well if you cannot put it on ozmid! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Kind regards Karen -Original Message-From: Zena Grant Coote [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2002 8:25 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Poster...for better birth! Vicki, (re poster) My email address would be helpful sorry, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thanks Zena - Original Message - From: Vicki Chan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:42 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Poster...for better birth! Dear All Nic Edmondstone and I have developed a poster which supports the right of every woman to choose a midwife as her lead maternity carer...If you wish to see it, email me direct and I'll send it as an attachment. They are selling at cost price (printing and posting that is) to promote midwifery care, particularly important now in the lead up to NMAP. Maternity Coalition will be distributing some in each state...there are plenty more available by emailing me. Yours for Better Birth, Vicki
RE: [ozmidwifery] followup on aca
Hi Jo Unfortunately it was one of those things I intended to do, but due to kids, work, life in general - it got swept aside. So no, I received no reply from the email I sent. Kind regards Karen -Original Message-From: Jo Dean Bainbridge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, 7 September 2002 7:55 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] followup on aca hi Karen just going through my 'in box' (there is heaps!) and found this email from you.. just wondering if you received a reply from ACA? Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: Karen Arthur To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 6:31 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] followup on aca Thanks Jo, I had written a lengthy email of complaint as well and had wondered whether there was more clout in sending a hard copy letter. As the viewer feedback states that there is no obligation on the station's part to reply to emails, I am now off to cut and paste. It would be wonderful if we could get a story promoting the benefits of natural birth etc. Kind regards Karen Hunter Homebirth Support -Original Message-From: Jo Dean Bainbridge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2002 3:39 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: Jackie MawsonSubject: [ozmidwifery] followup on aca Hi everyone, I was just as disgusted with the ACA thing that went to air the other night. I have also written my letter of complaint (via email) toACA and also done some investigating into the very likely fact they will do sweet stuff all about it. I have cut and pasted someinformation from the FACTS web site (which is the Federation of Australian Commercial Television Stations (FACTS) is the industry body which represents Australias Commercial Free-To-Air Television stations www.facts.org.au) and looked up the complaints facts sheet. As the story was very misleading and biased (as is most of their fish and chip journalism) but the fact that the information could actually be harmful to the population due its bias and misleading information, the ACA crew has shown a far from acceptable dutyof care to society, a complaint should be taken more seriously. To all those who wrote to ACA, if you don't get a reasonable response, then you can take it further via FACTS. They are really a toothless tiger but in the very least we could get ACA to do 'the other side of the story'. I hope that this might be of help. I know we are all very busy at the moment anyway, but for those who took the precious spare time to write a complaint to ACA, then you can make it worth it by following up. cheers for now, love to all Viewer Feedback The Commercial Television Code of Practice regulates most areas of programming and advertising on commercial free-to-air television (this does not include the ABC, SBS or pay TV). If you have a comment or complaint about something you have seen on free-to-air television, please help us to respond to your comment/complaint by following the two step guide below. FACTS and the free-to-air television networks welcome your comments and treat your criticisms seriously. If your would like more information about the complaints process see section 7 of the Code of Practice. STEP 1 Write a letter or fax (step 2 explains who you should write to). It is important you write as soon as possible. Stations are only obliged to provide a substantive written response to complaints about matters covered by the Code where the complaint is received with 30 days of broadcast. Stations are not required to respond to complaints sent by email. What information should your complaint include? Your complaint should include the following information: Name of program or advertiser/product On what station you saw or heard the program/advertisement When and where you saw or heard it Reasons for your concerns Your name and address Write to the television station Content of news current affairs eg: accuracy, fairness, invasion of privacy, objections to presenters/personalities etc What if you are not sure who to write to? If you write to FACTS about
RE: [ozmidwifery] in the paper!
Well
done, Jo!
Karen
-Original Message-From: JoFromOz
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2002
10:05 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:
[ozmidwifery] in the paper!
I am a new midwife, working in the birth suite in a hospital
as part of my grad year.
Lately I have been getting some really nice, normal
births... some have been inductions, but otherwise no interventions. (some
hadpain relief, some had none)... but today, my name appeared in the
paper in the classifieds, ("It's a Girl"): "Special thanks to Midwife Joanne
Zoch" I was SO PROUD!!! :)
Just had to share. It's my first time ;)
Jo
Be happy; for every minute you're angry you lose 60 seconds
of happiness.
RE: [ozmidwifery] How to use your politician (long)
Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou. This is exactly what we need! Karen Arthur Hunter Homebirth Support -Original Message- From: Andrea Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 16 August 2002 1:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] How to use your politician (long) Hi Listers, This information on how to contact and use your local politician to further your birth cause is a wonderful list of suggestions. It has been compiled by Bruce Teakle of the Birth Action Group in the Sunshine Coast and he has given me permission to pass it on to everyone, not just the NMAP Committee planning the launch of the NMAP on September 24. Thank you Bruce for putting this together. Please, everyone, cut and paste this to a file somewhere for future reference. We can all use these helpful suggestions. - Birth Action Group Contact Your Politician Guide What is this? This is for people wanting better access to better birth care. It is intended to be a guide to advocating to your political and bureaucratic servants what you want. It is being distributed now to support the National Maternity Action Plan campaign currently underway. Why? If we want to improve this situation and get access to the sort of birth care we want, we are going to have to go out of our own comfort zones and do the things necessary to make political change. A big part of this is to communicate with the politicians and bureaucrats who should be serving us better. The purpose of this guide is to help you do that. The success of the current campaign being organised around Australia depends on the active involvement of the grass roots of the birthing community. To succeed in achieving reform will require every supporter to make themselves heard. Politicians need to know that there is a problem before they will support the NMAP as a solution. We have to ask for what we want What do we want? I can't tell you what you want, but the common messages are that women want: ... Informed Choice - mother as principal decision maker - place of birth, intended intervention strategies, people present at birth, etc., decided by mother with carers in educational role. ... Holistic care - taking a broad range of relevant factors into care such as family relationships, emotional issues, nutrition etc.. ... Continuity of care - developing a close trust relationship with a main carer who attends through antenatal, birth, possible medical intervention, maternal stages. ... Low intervention - mothers tend to prefer not to receive unnecessary interventions, carers tend not to advise interventions unless necessary and backed by evidence. These elements are commonly held to be part of the Midwifery model of care, as opposed to the Medical or Obstetric models of care, which emphasise having doctors in charge of a team of carers, whose focus is on preparing for possible complications. Midwifery care by a woman's choice of midwife, in a woman's choice of place of birth, is freely available from the public health systems in Britain, Netherlands, New Zealand and many other countries. Publicly funded home birth schemes are operating in Western Australia, ACT and South Australia. What we want is available to many women in other places. The short way of saying this is that we want midwifery models of care in homes, birth centres and in hospital. What have we got? Women in Qld currently have nearly no choices in birth care. The hospital services available do not respect women as being able to make decisions for themselves about birthing, and have unacceptable rates of intervention and consequent injury. The most recent statistics available for Qld are for the calendar year 1999, that is 2 1/2 years ago. In that year 24% of Qld births were by caesarean, another 9% were by forceps or vacuum. That means 1/3 of babies were delivered surgically, not including the large proportion of mothers and babies who were given artificial hormones (to start or speed up labour), anaesthetics, or episiotomies. Given persistent stories from hospital workers that intervention rates are rising steeply, who knows what the numbers are now. Qld consumers are being treated like mushrooms by Qld Health. The only figures on birth interventions available to consumers (the people at the sharp end of the knife) are well out of date, and only give averages for the state. Figures on individual hospitals - very important for infomed choice making - are only available for public hospitals on payment of a $120 fee, and private hospital statistics are totally secret. Qld Health is unable to identify any process by which these figures are reviewed in order that problems may be responded to. Unaccountable and out of control. Birth centre care is not available by choice, due to the tiny number of places available in Qld's 2 state run birth centres. Groups all over the state have been
RE: [ozmidwifery] Senior Lecturer Newcastle
Hi Kathleen Just out of interest, how long will it be till Newcastle Uni runs the Bachelor of Midwifery (direct entry) course? Kind regards Karen -Original Message-From: Kathleen Fahy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, 12 August 2002 5:19 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Senior Lecturer Newcastle Dear Colleagues, Great to be back on the list after a long break for the King Edward Inquiry when I felt I couldn't be involved because of my position as panel member. I seek your assistance now in advising anyone who may be qualified and interested in the position of Midwifery Course Coordinator at the Newcastle University of Newcastle. The position was advertised in Saturday's Australian Newspaper and will be advertised in two New Zealand newspapers. The details are available on Web http://www.newcastle.edu.au/oldsite/employment/adv/a205_02.html I would be pleased to talk with anyone who is considering applying. --Kathleen FahyProfessor of MidwiferyHead of School of Nursing and MidwiferyFaculty of HealthThe University of NewcastleUniversity Drive,Callaghan, 2308 Ph 02 49215966 Fax 02 49216981
RE: [ozmidwifery] Senior Lecturer Newcastle
Kathleen Yes, that's me. My number is (02) 49912531 and email [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I look forward to speaking with you and will be attending theworkshop at Newcastle Uni in October. Kind regards Karen Arthur Hunter Homebirth Support -Original Message-From: Kathleen Fahy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2002 8:37 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Senior Lecturer Newcastle Dear Karen, I am absolutely on to it. You may know that I have been a member of the ACMI taskforce to develop standards for the BMid. The big hold up is getting the Nurses Registration Board changed to the Nurses and Midwives Board. Currently the NRB dictates that a student in midwifery must be an RN to be eligible. Are you by any chance Karen Arthur of Hunter Home birth? If so, I'd love to talk. Kathleen --Kathleen FahyProfessor of MidwiferyHead of School of Nursing and MidwiferyFaculty of HealthThe University of NewcastleUniversity Drive,Callaghan, 2308 Ph 02 49215966 Fax 02 49216981 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/12/02 06:24pm Hi Kathleen Just out of interest, how long will it be till Newcastle Uni runs the Bachelor of Midwifery (direct entry) course? Kind regards Karen -Original Message-From: Kathleen Fahy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, 12 August 2002 5:19 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Senior Lecturer Newcastle Dear Colleagues, Great to be back on the list after a long break for the King Edward Inquiry when I felt I couldn't be involved because of my position as panel member. I seek your assistance now in advising anyone who may be qualified and interested in the position of Midwifery Course Coordinator at the Newcastle University of Newcastle. The position was advertised in Saturday's Australian Newspaper and will be advertised in two New Zealand newspapers. The details are available on Web http://www.newcastle.edu.au/oldsite/employment/adv/a205_02.html I would be pleased to talk with anyone who is considering applying. --Kathleen FahyProfessor of MidwiferyHead of School of Nursing and MidwiferyFaculty of HealthThe University of NewcastleUniversity Drive,Callaghan, 2308 Ph 02 49215966 Fax 02 49216981
RE: [ozmidwifery] followup on aca
Thanks Jo, I had written a lengthy email of complaint as well and had wondered whether there was more clout in sending a hard copy letter. As the viewer feedback states that there is no obligation on the station's part to reply to emails, I am now off to cut and paste. It would be wonderful if we could get a story promoting the benefits of natural birth etc. Kind regards Karen Hunter Homebirth Support -Original Message-From: Jo Dean Bainbridge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2002 3:39 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: Jackie MawsonSubject: [ozmidwifery] followup on aca Hi everyone, I was just as disgusted with the ACA thing that went to air the other night. I have also written my letter of complaint (via email) toACA and also done some investigating into the very likely fact they will do sweet stuff all about it. I have cut and pasted someinformation from the FACTS web site (which is the Federation of Australian Commercial Television Stations (FACTS) is the industry body which represents Australias Commercial Free-To-Air Television stations www.facts.org.au) and looked up the complaints facts sheet. As the story was very misleading and biased (as is most of their fish and chip journalism) but the fact that the information could actually be harmful to the population due its bias and misleading information, the ACA crew has shown a far from acceptable dutyof care to society, a complaint should be taken more seriously. To all those who wrote to ACA, if you don't get a reasonable response, then you can take it further via FACTS. They are really a toothless tiger but in the very least we could get ACA to do 'the other side of the story'. I hope that this might be of help. I know we are all very busy at the moment anyway, but for those who took the precious spare time to write a complaint to ACA, then you can make it worth it by following up. cheers for now, love to all Viewer Feedback The Commercial Television Code of Practice regulates most areas of programming and advertising on commercial free-to-air television (this does not include the ABC, SBS or pay TV). If you have a comment or complaint about something you have seen on free-to-air television, please help us to respond to your comment/complaint by following the two step guide below. FACTS and the free-to-air television networks welcome your comments and treat your criticisms seriously. If your would like more information about the complaints process see section 7 of the Code of Practice. STEP 1 Write a letter or fax (step 2 explains who you should write to). It is important you write as soon as possible. Stations are only obliged to provide a substantive written response to complaints about matters covered by the Code where the complaint is received with 30 days of broadcast. Stations are not required to respond to complaints sent by email. What information should your complaint include? Your complaint should include the following information: Name of program or advertiser/product On what station you saw or heard the program/advertisement When and where you saw or heard it Reasons for your concerns Your name and address Write to the television station Content of news current affairs eg: accuracy, fairness, invasion of privacy, objections to presenters/personalities etc What if you are not sure who to write to? If you write to FACTS about something that you should have written to a television station or the Advertising Standards Bureau about, we will forward your letter to the correct organisation. We will write to you to let you know we have done this. When should you expect to receive a reply? The Code requires a station to respond to you within 30 working days of receiving a complaint about a matter covered by the Code of Practice. What can you do if you dont receive a reply or you do not consider the reply to be adequate? If the station has not written back to you within 60 days or you do not consider the response to be adequate, you may send your complaint to the ABA. The ABA will need a copy of your original complaint to the station, as well as a copy of the stations reply. Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love...
Re: Homebirth in Ireland
Mary Murphy wrote: Does anyone have any information about the availablity of homebirth midwives in Ireland? I have a friend whose daughter lives in Ireland (don't know where at this moment) she was wanting to know if there was any one in particular who could help her daughter. thanks in anticipation Mary Murphy Hi Mary, Here is the URL for the Homebirth Association of Ireland: http://www.iol.ie/%7Ehba/index.html Perhaps this will help you in your search! Best wishes, Karen Radcliff -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Fw: PhD research on the medicalization of pregnancy and childbirth
I have to say that just because a point of view does not agree with ours does not negate it as a positive subject of study. Sometimes studying a point of view that we don't agree with can be helpful. For instance, a study of women who consciously choose to medicalize their childbirths could, as Darren pointed out, result in definitive data supporting that such a view arises from fear, and perhaps could illustrate where that fear comes from. Such a study could also illustrate the unhealthy aspects and unhappy consequences that result from such a choice. If we can bring out, in sociological study, the negative aspects of birthing practices that we know are unhealthy, these support the positive aspects of healthy birth choices and can in the future speak directly to women who might be making such negative choices. If a woman only hears that a home birth is better for her and her baby but never hears specifics on how an interventionist birth is negative, how can we expect women who were not educated about these issues earlier in their lives to make decisions now? Finally, sometimes people will only listen to proof and not anecdote (and this is not only pregnant women and their families, but legislators and politicians and doctors) and proving through research that a highly interventionist birth is unhealthy, negative, and just bad can be very powerful evidence in favor of more positive experiences, and the personal, political, and medical support of such. Karen Radcliff -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Intro Conference
Hi Nikki, Take a look at the Homebirth Access Sydney website: http://homebirthaccesssydney.com.au/main.html They're sponsoring the conference, and have registration and other information there on the site. Karen Radcliff -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Spiritual Midwifery??
Hello Denise, The ICSM contact information for ordering the book is this: Cost per copy: A$29.95 plus $5.50 postage handling (A$10 overseas). Payment by cheque, credit card or international money order. To order your copy contact Greenwood Press, PO Box 233, Yarra Glen 3775, Victoria, Australia Ph: (03) 5965 2325 Fax: (03) 5965 2588 I obtained this from their website at http://home.vicnet.net.au/~icsm/ Karen Radcliff :) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Homebirth Awareness picnic day
Dear Everyone Just letting you all know that our day at Newcastle Foreshore was successful and we achieved what we set out to do - raise awareness of homebirth as a choice. We had people filtering in throughout the day - so many told us that they have finished having children now, but would have been interested in homebirth as an option, if only they had known... Anyway, we all enjoyed ourselves, the stress organising it was totally worth it. I feel a huge relief and look forward to time spent reading all the unopened ozmid entries (about 620)!!! Love Karen Hunter Homebirth Support
RE: Setting Up a National Maternity Consumers' body
Dear Barb At this point in time the group members of Hunter Homebirth Support have not discussed this issue, but in all probability I believe that we will be interested in becoming part of a National Maternity Consumers body. I will let you know ASAP what organisation HHS prefer. It's a great idea and will give such strength to our cause(s). Karen Hunter Homebirth Support -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vernon at Stringybark Sent: Friday, 19 October 2001 11:19 AM To: ozmid Subject: FW: Setting Up a National Maternity Consumers' body Dear ozmiders, FYI this has been sent to a range of consumers and midwives for comment. -- From: Vernon at Stringybark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:13:24 +1000 To: National consumers, ozbirth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Nat consumers - midwives Subject: Setting Up a National Maternity Consumers' body Dear all, RE PROPOSAL TO CREATE A NATIONAL MATERNITY CONSUMERS ASSOCIATION In summary this email makes the following points: 1. there is widespread support for the idea of a national maternity consumers body to lobby on national issues 2. any such body should complement not replace existing groups 3. there is value in having legal protection afforded by incorporation 4. an efficient way to set up a national body is to link up with an existing organization 5. your group's views are sought on the prospect of joining either AIMS or Maternity Coalition with a view to forming a national body. INTRODUCTION There has been an overwhelmingly positive response to my email of 17 September inviting interest in the idea of forming a new national maternity consumers body of some sort. Enthusiastic support has come from all parts of Australia from Far North Qld round to WA. Thank you to all those who forwarded the 17 Sept email. Thanks also to all those who replied. I have appended the original message below for those of you who did not receive the 17 Sept email. On recommendation from midwives and other consumers I have extended the list of email recipients to try and cover as many consumer organizations as possible. If you are NOT interested in receiving any further emails on this topic please send me a reply and I will remove you from the list. If you know of a consumer or midwifery group not covered in the email list above but who may be interested in participating in a national maternity body please forward this message to them. I apologize for this being a lengthy email - please note the invitation under the heading of 4. YOUR GROUPS VIEWS ARE NOW SOUGHT... to comment on the issues raised here either as a REPLY ALL or to me by 31 October or ASAP thereafter. OVERVIEW 1. YOUR VIEWS TO DATECONSUMERS MIDWIVES VIEWS 2. POINTS OF CONSENSUS 3. SO WHERE TO FROM HERE? - PROFILES OF AIMS MATERNITY COALITION 4. YOUR GROUPS VIEWS ARE NOW SOUGHT... 5. BACKGROUND - ORIGINAL 17 SEPT EMAIL 1. YOUR VIEWS TO DATE The following are a sample of the comments received from people to date: FROM COMSUMERS I am delighted to have been forwarded your email. It sure looks as if the time is fertile for a national consumer body...(Brisbane) I am in Cairns, North Qld and would be happy to join in a coalition for midwives mothers. How can I contribute? Would be interested in joining up. I am currently an active member of the Maternity Coalition and run Choices after Caesarean: Empowering Women in Melbourne. This proposal seems to be an important one, and certainly one that consumer groups like ourselves should be involved in right now. I am part of Birthplace Support Group (in Perth) - our local birth choices network - and I am sure that we would be interested in being part of a national coalition of some sort. Creative Birth Options - recently formed info and support group - we're are tiny but we're very enthusiastic and took front page of 2 newspapers in the area today!!! Please let us know what we can do to help. FROM MIDWIVES I am most anxious to see a collaborative effort of all consumers and midwives to continue. There is still much progress to be made and perhaps an umbrella organization would be most useful in achieving those common goals and best utilizing energies Lets continue to move forward in unity. I have been reading Kerreen Reiger's new book, 'Our Bodies Our Babies: the forgotten women's movement'. It deals with a lot of the history of childbirth reform, and one of the points she makes is that childbirth groups have tended to be small and with organizational difficulties. There has been in the past a lot of duplication of effort, and women are trying to do it all at the same time as carrying and nurturing babies. My vision is that [a national body]...can overcome some of the fragmentation and inefficiencies of the past. I think this idea is great - and wish you every success. Great idea, I think a national
RE: Petition Signing Time
Hi Toni The petition might get lots of signatures at our Homebirth Awareness Day at Newcastle. Would you please send it to me as an attachment? Many thanks Karen Arthur Hunter Homebirth Support mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Toni Cannard Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2001 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Petition Signing Time Hello all, in the land of Ozmidwifery, The Petition (included in the latest AIMS jouranl) requests recognition of midwives as autonomous professionals entitled to access to PI insurance and to the same medical rebates as medical providers of the same maternity service. You may find the wording of the petition a little unusual, that is because we are following parliamentary policy to ensure that this petition will be presented to the new House of Reps A.S.A.P. after the election. To all those pushing to get birthing on the election stage, Congratulations and keep on going! Remember to take along a petition with you to any places where politicians are campaigning - everytime you raise an issue (written or not) it is supposed to be recorded. You can ask the person, have you made a note of this issue I'm raising?, just to be sure. Thankyou in advance for forwarding this onto groups and individuals, so that we can raise reams of signed petitions in a short space of time. Love to you all, Toni Cannard, AIMS VP - see Petition wording below Note: I've tried copying the Petition form into an e-mail but it keeps bouncing back. So as a compromise here is just the wording and the return details. You can either copy it into a Word doc and add a table with the headings NAME ADDRESS SIGNATURE. OR you can e-mail me requesting I forward the petition to you as an attachment. To Members of the House of Representatives AIMS (Association for Improvements in the maternity services) Australia Inc. members and interested public undersigned ask the house to confirm that currently midwives are not recognised as autonomous practitioners and are not currently entitled to the same medical rebates and federal / state funded professional indemnity insurance schemes as medical providers of the same maternity service. AIMS (Association for Improvements in the maternity services) Australia Inc. members and interested public undersigned pray the house formally recognise midwives as autonomous practitioners working for the public good who must have access to the same medical rebates and federal / state government funded professional indemnity insurance schemes as medical providers of the same maternity service. Insert table here!! Return this petition to AIMS Australia Inc, PO Box 420, Red Hill QLD 4012 or fax to 07 3865 2423 and put original in post. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Newcastle Homebirth Awareness Day
. Hunter Homebirth Support will be celebrating National Homebirth Awareness week (25-31 October) with a Homebirth Awareness Picnic Day Sunday 28 October 2001 Railway Common, Newcastle Foreshore 10.00am till 3.00pm The day will include: · 10.30 am Commemorative Photo of Homebirth babies/children · 11.00am Jill Hall (Federal MP for Shortland) to talk on what Govt is doing for homebirth and maternity services · 12.00pm Sausage sizzle · Informational Stalls · Lots More! Anyone interested in gentle, active birth, homebirth, or promoting choice in maternity services are all welcome. For additional information call: Karen Arthur: 49912531, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stall space still available Sponsors: Natural Instinct Doula Service
